August 5, 2025 • 21 mins
Every Wednesday, we share our thoughts on a newer entertainment property, and currently, that's The Gilded Age. It's true that love is never easy (for Larry/Marian, Peggy/Hot Doctor, and more), but of course, Bertha gets her way when it comes to her daughter's marriage plans. Mentioned: Actor Andrew Garman, who played the father of another potential duchess and was also in The Holdovers.
Next Wednesday, we'll watch season 3, episode 4, "Marriage Is a Gamble." We'll be back tomorrow with our weekly roundup.
This episode was recorded before a live audience ... of dogs.
Next Wednesday, we'll watch season 3, episode 4, "Marriage Is a Gamble." We'll be back tomorrow with our weekly roundup.
This episode was recorded before a live audience ... of dogs.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
and let's all make like we're doing something important for
our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
a newer entertainment property, and for this week of August fourth,
(00:46):
we're continuing with the Gilded Age. This episode was titled
Love is Never Easy. Yeah, that's that's true, and I
appreciate the way it goes with the following episode's title,
which is marriage is.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
A camp.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Guilded age of screenwriters who hurt you.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So yeah, love is not easy. For for example, Larry
and Marion. Yeah, of course, get busted by Bertha's maid, who.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Did indeed, immediately go and wrap them out, wrap them out? Yes,
Oh wow. She This parenting tip set up a good
intelligence network so that anytime your children do anything you
would want to know about, somebody's telling you. I did
that with pair of professionals in schools. Uh. And I mean,
if you have household help, absolutely let them know.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It'll be worth their why yes, to keep you informed.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Although I think the I think the maid thought better
of it after she had done it was like yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Then she's like late.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I think she sort of had the She sort of
tried the same method as Billy Carleton's mom and it
didn't didn't work.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
No, no, Billy Carleton has completely left the building. Gladys
thinks she'll be able to go back to him, and
it's like no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
As Larry said, mother got to him.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I think I think she said he said she got
to his mother or something like that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah got to her. So and indeed she did.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
She did.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Mm hmmm. So Billy's mother, we should say, because we
missed it last week when we were praising her performance,
and it's Victoria Clark. I know who Victoria Clark is.
I didn't recognize her playing just like the mom, but
I didn't know whoever was doing it had some skills.
So yeah, tip of the hat, right, we know, hope
(03:00):
she would be nice if she had more to do,
but maybe she just had a free you know, a
free few days and her Broadway buddy said, come and
play a little role. It'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
We've always got something going on over Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
For you, we'll find somebody's mother for you to be.
You can have three scenes. It'll be great, h Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So yeah, it's hard for Larry and Marion.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's hard for Peggy because while the doctor seems amazing
and lovely, his mother does not.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Felicious, solicious, shod Wow, what a performance.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And Brian Stokes Mitchell is his dad.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So yes again Broadway, yes are you here?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, the dad seemed seem cool, lovely and oh boys,
a real snob and a colorist, yes real ouch ouch ouch.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So everybody's a racist.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, that's that was harsh, But but we had to
have something to get in the way of Peggy's yes, love,
so I assume that.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Which is, by the way, never easy.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
D You're it's not easy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So but then of course the big the big thing
about love not being easy is marrying Glady's off to
the duke. It's Bertha, of course, as we knew, Yeah,
last week was not finished with this, with this plan,
she had to kind of regroup and.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Restart, but she did.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
She found a way to basically tell the rival like, look,
you're not gonna win this.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Although I really enjoyed, I should look up who played
the rival's dad, because he was terrific, yes, and so
bemused by the whole thing, and not like, you know,
gonna snap back at George for telling his wife business
things and not gonna just like I don't want my
(05:21):
daughter to marry this student and go to England. I
don't care, And you know, I admire your comps. He
was just so such a human being, you know, like
probably thinking to himself, oh boy, George, I feel sorry
for you. You may have all the money, but you
(05:43):
gotta come home to this.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
His name is Andrew Garman and he was in The Holdovers.
Oh he played who was he played a doctor? Okay,
must have been a doctor at the like mental hospital where.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
You know where the kid's dad was.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Could be or also could be that didn't he have
to didn't the kid have to go to the hospital
for something he injured himself. Yeah, that could be that too,
But either way, excellent job by that guy of just
seeing like seeming like such a cool human of which
we don't see all that many of the killed pitch right,
(06:23):
and he could have been a real insufferable jerk who
then made things difficult. But he's uh, you know, good
for his daughter.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Mm hmm. Yeah I liked that.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I don't I mean, maybe Bertha
didn't even need to do any of that because you
just like, oh, I don't don't want her to marry
this guy.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So yeah, it was pretty it seemed just.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Sort of a little errand that they went.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
On, right, It seems pretty risky of her to do
that because George kind of told her that stuff in confidence.
I don't think he expected her to turn around and
call the guy in and tell him that she knows right. Fortunately.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well, and the other thing that that happened in this
episode was that Patrick Page came back yes Zona, and
he was like, oh, we need more money, and so
George said, well take the money that we were going to.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yes, this I have this in capital letters many times
in my notes.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, so what's that is that going to be?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You know, Chekhov's dowries it.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, I didn't understand because I thought then when I mean,
when uh Bertha was then turning around and making this
match happen again and promising him the money again, I
thought it was going to be a huge crisis, George
saying you did what we don't have that money anymore.
But George was like, okay, cool. He didn't seem to
be concerned at.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
All, and also not that concerned that you know, he
told Gladys that she wouldn't have to do it, and yeah,
then he was like, oh.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Well, las Birtha figured it out.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
The thing is, at that point I would have felt
worse about it for Gladys had Billy not just turned
out to be such a crushingly drip. Yeah. Yeah, so
it's like she no longer has the dream of Billy,
so might as well bebe you know, what are you
going to do if you you know, it's like Marian
(08:32):
saying that she's struck out twice, she's got to be
really careful the third time. You know, if she fails
with Billy and then the Duke goes away, she's gonna
be She's not gonna have her choice than either, so
you might as well take the bad choice that involves
a fabulous lifestyle, I guess, right right in England where
(08:58):
you know nobody, but it'll be fine, but your mother's
not there, right, Yeah, just saying that that alone could
be yes, but yes, but I just kept saying, didn't
George spend the dowry? Shouldn't he mention that he spent
the dowry already, that they're that money doesn't exist anymore? Well,
(09:18):
and he can't. I think it's just he can't get
in touch with Patrick, right because he's.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, he's like on a he's on a train, I guess,
But I mean they have telegrams and stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Yeah, I guess George is just like, yeah, it'll all
be fine because I'll I'll make billions on this deal when.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
It actually Yeah, I guess that's gonna be pretty awkward
for Gladys when she's in some stranger's house in England
in the check bounces.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But he'll just be like, well, remember that that allowance,
hind about that part, I'll give you everything else.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Well, Bertha already told him the allowance, you know, feel
free to just read that whenever you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Want, what's hers is yours.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
But then at the end it did have kind of
a like a nice little chat yes Duke and glad
like when he was like, well this.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Is awkward basicly and She's like yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah that was somewhat reassuring, but I
still love must yeah no. And then at the end,
after her painting is unveiled, Gladys fidgets with her necklace
one too many times and it falls apart, which, uh,
based on things I read in social media, yeah, this
(10:47):
has symbolizes nothing good.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
But also the other thing that I read was that
a decent pearl necklace would not do that because each
there would be a knot in between each each pearl,
so that you would you.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Would use So who who gave her the pearl necklace?
Did the dude give it to her?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I don't know, because she had it on earlier.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Maybe I'm just wondering, if it's not a decent pearl necklace,
who is giving her cheap jewelry?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Is it like a sign of you know, this is
all a house of cards.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
That's right, probably, And also the servants are going, oh bleep,
we're gonna have to spend the next month findings it
bounced on a hard tile floor and have gone every
bleeping where does somebody count? Do we know how many
we're looking for?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Right rightmare?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Well, the maid who rated out Mary and Larry should
get that duty.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, it's your job to get down.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
There on your Oh my m hm, Well so what else?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Did anything else happen at the van?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Ryans?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Oh we're gonna get We're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
A seance or something.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yes we are.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
The cook has sympathetically told Ada like, oh, you could
talk to him one more time, Robert.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Sean Leonard, we'll get him there.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So we're honoring the man by not drinking alcohol when
he had no trouble with alcohol, and by doing some
a seance which I have to think that a religious
uh person would not agree with.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Could not appreciate exactly think things through, will you?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Warning is never easy? But you're being kind of bad
at it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you do have.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
To feel bad, and I did. I was impressed by
the cook, you know, yeah, how she handled basically being
you know, put on the spotlight. Why didn't you sign it?
Why didn't anybody sign it? Except for that awful strong,
(13:25):
and she was very like gentle and kind without you know,
overstepping her position.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, there are many things she could have gotten people
to sign. It's it's not about you, honey, it's about
they like to have a beer at the end of
the day. It's about enjoy their wine. You know, none
of them are alcohol a dealing them alone, I'm dealing
with you.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And Agnes and Oscar all dang day.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yes, don't take their don't take each other. Yeah, don't
take their enjoyment away. That's like, it's not it's not
a personal slight. And I don't think they would do
it for Agnes either, although Agnes would probably be a
little more overbearing about it, but she would never ask
that you're right right, And she is not taking her
whole change in fortune well at all. It's delightful, Yes, yes,
(14:25):
it is not to see her downfall, but just to
see how she's still the same person from the other end,
not humbled. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And we did also get a little advancement of the
clock plot, yes, with Larry and Jack going to meet
with some you know clock yes, guys, and thankfully Jack
spoke up and when the time when it be.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Necessary, so did well.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
It was like, finally, Larry, you did something right with
this clock by actually bringing Jack with you.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And yes, yes, I also.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Realized otherwise you would have been out of there.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, he would not have as you did. Yeah. I
really enjoyed the scene between Jack and It's armstrong right,
the unpleasant Yes, great. Yeah. It shows that sometimes somebody
who you have no respect for otherwise, can you know,
give you some perspective, and you need to be open
(15:45):
to everybody, and that she reached out to him in
that way, and that she really had a very valuable
insight to share.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
That you know, we tend to dismiss her as just
but she was kind. She was very kind.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
She was kind of like, guys, you make me look quick,
absolutely horrible all day, Like can you give me a
little yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
But then there was that little ending he says, thanks
for giving me some hope.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
She's like, oh I didn't, Yeah, I didn't mean to.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Well, she's got to stay true, but still she that
was that was a nice scene. I really enjoyed that
and I liked the message parenting tip wise, sometimes you
can get insights from people you otherwise do not like
and do not respect, and you have to be open
(16:44):
at least I will open to everybody. Sometimes. It's like
we talked about parenting books last week, that you take
what you need and leave the rest and adjust what
you take to fit you. But it's the same with
people who might otherwise make your blood boil if sometimes
they have a good insight that you can just remove
(17:05):
from the rest and polish in the way that you wish,
and it can be useful. So, but that was that
was very sweet. So I also enjoyed how much missus
Fish is enjoying all of this. She's like, she said,
(17:29):
she thinks that the opera is an opportunity to wear
her jewels and talk to people she likes, and to
pick up to drink all the delicious tea. She's like,
she's like a little bee going from group to group
collecting gossip.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yes, she's very wonderful.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
All so fun for her. M hm.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So yeah, And was there any was there any Aurora?
Speaker 6 (17:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Just to other was there No? I don't there's any
mention of herdle.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
No.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I think that she was mentioned, but she didn't appear.
I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh, I think it was what Agnes was saying that
she's now going to be excluded from society, and that
she will go to Newport with Aurora and the other
outcasts and at least they will have wine or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yes, that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
You know, it's it sounds like she could have a
good time there. Just steer clear of Felicierer's shot.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, but you know, it's a good introduce her to
your maid.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
A good parenting tip that there are snobs in every circle.
You know, no matter what, you're never going to find
a group where somebody doesn't think they're better than everybody else.
So find the people who you can sit in a
corner and laugh at them with. So like missus f Yes, exactly,
(18:56):
Missus Fish observing all of these.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
She doesn't laugh at people.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Well, she just gossips.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
She sort of just giggles softly to herself. I think
I hope she has somebody at home, whether it be
a partner or a child or a sympathetic servant, who
she can go home and just tell all these stories too.
Oh and then this thing happened. Oh and then this thing.
(19:24):
Oh can you believe this? She's writing it down and
we'll have a just a killer society novel to come
out at some point, or she just just enjoys her
life and that's it. That's sufficient, Yeah, keeps her own canceled.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yes, So next Wednesday we will continue with season three,
episode four.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
As I mentioned, it is called marriage is a Game?
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Oh yeah, are we gonna I mean, we already know
some there'reages that are a gamble, but are we gonna
move Are we gonna move.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Further along with Larry and Marion? Or how many weeks
are we gonna just sort of.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Not?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
They can't just like be happy from the beginning, you know,
they've got to keep introducing that.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh well whatever, it would be a gamble though, yep,
it would.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
But we'll see.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
We'll see next Wednesday, and we'll be back here tomorrow
for our weekly Roundabout round up.
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Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
I'm Catherine hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
and let's all make like we're doing something important for
our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
a newer entertainment property, and for this week of August fourth,
(00:46):
we're continuing with the Gilded Age. This episode was titled
Love is Never Easy. Yeah, that's that's true, and I
appreciate the way it goes with the following episode's title,
which is marriage is.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
A camp.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Guilded age of screenwriters who hurt you.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So yeah, love is not easy. For for example, Larry
and Marion. Yeah, of course, get busted by Bertha's maid, who.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Did indeed, immediately go and wrap them out, wrap them out? Yes,
Oh wow. She This parenting tip set up a good
intelligence network so that anytime your children do anything you
would want to know about, somebody's telling you. I did
that with pair of professionals in schools. Uh. And I mean,
if you have household help, absolutely let them know.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It'll be worth their why yes, to keep you informed.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Although I think the I think the maid thought better
of it after she had done it was like yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Then she's like late.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I think she sort of had the She sort of
tried the same method as Billy Carleton's mom and it
didn't didn't work.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
No, no, Billy Carleton has completely left the building. Gladys
thinks she'll be able to go back to him, and
it's like no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
As Larry said, mother got to him.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I think I think she said he said she got
to his mother or something like that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah got to her. So and indeed she did.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
She did.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Mm hmmm. So Billy's mother, we should say, because we
missed it last week when we were praising her performance,
and it's Victoria Clark. I know who Victoria Clark is.
I didn't recognize her playing just like the mom, but
I didn't know whoever was doing it had some skills.
So yeah, tip of the hat, right, we know, hope
(03:00):
she would be nice if she had more to do,
but maybe she just had a free you know, a
free few days and her Broadway buddy said, come and
play a little role. It'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
We've always got something going on over Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
For you, we'll find somebody's mother for you to be.
You can have three scenes. It'll be great, h Yes.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So yeah, it's hard for Larry and Marion.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's hard for Peggy because while the doctor seems amazing
and lovely, his mother does not.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Felicious, solicious, shod Wow, what a performance.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
And Brian Stokes Mitchell is his dad.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So yes again Broadway, yes are you here?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, the dad seemed seem cool, lovely and oh boys,
a real snob and a colorist, yes real ouch ouch ouch.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
So everybody's a racist.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, that's that was harsh, But but we had to
have something to get in the way of Peggy's yes, love,
so I assume that.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Which is, by the way, never easy.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
D You're it's not easy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So but then of course the big the big thing
about love not being easy is marrying Glady's off to
the duke. It's Bertha, of course, as we knew, Yeah,
last week was not finished with this, with this plan,
she had to kind of regroup and.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Restart, but she did.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
She found a way to basically tell the rival like, look,
you're not gonna win this.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Although I really enjoyed, I should look up who played
the rival's dad, because he was terrific, yes, and so
bemused by the whole thing, and not like, you know,
gonna snap back at George for telling his wife business
things and not gonna just like I don't want my
(05:21):
daughter to marry this student and go to England. I
don't care, And you know, I admire your comps. He
was just so such a human being, you know, like
probably thinking to himself, oh boy, George, I feel sorry
for you. You may have all the money, but you
(05:43):
gotta come home to this.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
His name is Andrew Garman and he was in The Holdovers.
Oh he played who was he played a doctor? Okay,
must have been a doctor at the like mental hospital where.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
You know where the kid's dad was.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Could be or also could be that didn't he have
to didn't the kid have to go to the hospital
for something he injured himself. Yeah, that could be that too,
But either way, excellent job by that guy of just
seeing like seeming like such a cool human of which
we don't see all that many of the killed pitch right,
(06:23):
and he could have been a real insufferable jerk who
then made things difficult. But he's uh, you know, good
for his daughter.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Mm hmm. Yeah I liked that.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I don't I mean, maybe Bertha
didn't even need to do any of that because you
just like, oh, I don't don't want her to marry
this guy.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So yeah, it was pretty it seemed just.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Sort of a little errand that they went.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
On, right, It seems pretty risky of her to do
that because George kind of told her that stuff in confidence.
I don't think he expected her to turn around and
call the guy in and tell him that she knows right. Fortunately.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well, and the other thing that that happened in this
episode was that Patrick Page came back yes Zona, and
he was like, oh, we need more money, and so
George said, well take the money that we were going to.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yes, this I have this in capital letters many times
in my notes.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, so what's that is that going to be?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You know, Chekhov's dowries it.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, I didn't understand because I thought then when I mean,
when uh Bertha was then turning around and making this
match happen again and promising him the money again, I
thought it was going to be a huge crisis, George
saying you did what we don't have that money anymore.
But George was like, okay, cool. He didn't seem to
be concerned at.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
All, and also not that concerned that you know, he
told Gladys that she wouldn't have to do it, and yeah,
then he was like, oh.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Well, las Birtha figured it out.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
The thing is, at that point I would have felt
worse about it for Gladys had Billy not just turned
out to be such a crushingly drip. Yeah. Yeah, so
it's like she no longer has the dream of Billy,
so might as well bebe you know, what are you
going to do if you you know, it's like Marian
(08:32):
saying that she's struck out twice, she's got to be
really careful the third time. You know, if she fails
with Billy and then the Duke goes away, she's gonna
be She's not gonna have her choice than either, so
you might as well take the bad choice that involves
a fabulous lifestyle, I guess, right right in England where
(08:58):
you know nobody, but it'll be fine, but your mother's
not there, right, Yeah, just saying that that alone could
be yes, but yes, but I just kept saying, didn't
George spend the dowry? Shouldn't he mention that he spent
the dowry already, that they're that money doesn't exist anymore? Well,
(09:18):
and he can't. I think it's just he can't get
in touch with Patrick, right because he's.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, he's like on a he's on a train, I guess,
But I mean they have telegrams and stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Yeah, I guess George is just like, yeah, it'll all
be fine because I'll I'll make billions on this deal when.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
It actually Yeah, I guess that's gonna be pretty awkward
for Gladys when she's in some stranger's house in England
in the check bounces.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
But he'll just be like, well, remember that that allowance,
hind about that part, I'll give you everything else.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Well, Bertha already told him the allowance, you know, feel
free to just read that whenever you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Want, what's hers is yours.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
But then at the end it did have kind of
a like a nice little chat yes Duke and glad
like when he was like, well this.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Is awkward basicly and She's like yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah that was somewhat reassuring, but I
still love must yeah no. And then at the end,
after her painting is unveiled, Gladys fidgets with her necklace
one too many times and it falls apart, which, uh,
based on things I read in social media, yeah, this
(10:47):
has symbolizes nothing good.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
But also the other thing that I read was that
a decent pearl necklace would not do that because each
there would be a knot in between each each pearl,
so that you would you.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Would use So who who gave her the pearl necklace?
Did the dude give it to her?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I don't know, because she had it on earlier.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Maybe I'm just wondering, if it's not a decent pearl necklace,
who is giving her cheap jewelry?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Is it like a sign of you know, this is
all a house of cards.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
That's right, probably, And also the servants are going, oh bleep,
we're gonna have to spend the next month findings it
bounced on a hard tile floor and have gone every
bleeping where does somebody count? Do we know how many
we're looking for?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Right rightmare?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Well, the maid who rated out Mary and Larry should
get that duty.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, it's your job to get down.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
There on your Oh my m hm, Well so what else?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Did anything else happen at the van?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Ryans?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Oh we're gonna get We're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
A seance or something.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yes we are.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
The cook has sympathetically told Ada like, oh, you could
talk to him one more time, Robert.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Sean Leonard, we'll get him there.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So we're honoring the man by not drinking alcohol when
he had no trouble with alcohol, and by doing some
a seance which I have to think that a religious
uh person would not agree with.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Could not appreciate exactly think things through, will you?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Warning is never easy? But you're being kind of bad
at it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you do have.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
To feel bad, and I did. I was impressed by
the cook, you know, yeah, how she handled basically being
you know, put on the spotlight. Why didn't you sign it?
Why didn't anybody sign it? Except for that awful strong,
(13:25):
and she was very like gentle and kind without you know,
overstepping her position.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, there are many things she could have gotten people
to sign. It's it's not about you, honey, it's about
they like to have a beer at the end of
the day. It's about enjoy their wine. You know, none
of them are alcohol a dealing them alone, I'm dealing
with you.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And Agnes and Oscar all dang day.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yes, don't take their don't take each other. Yeah, don't
take their enjoyment away. That's like, it's not it's not
a personal slight. And I don't think they would do
it for Agnes either, although Agnes would probably be a
little more overbearing about it, but she would never ask
that you're right right, And she is not taking her
whole change in fortune well at all. It's delightful, Yes, yes,
(14:25):
it is not to see her downfall, but just to
see how she's still the same person from the other end,
not humbled. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
And we did also get a little advancement of the
clock plot, yes, with Larry and Jack going to meet
with some you know clock yes, guys, and thankfully Jack
spoke up and when the time when it be.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Necessary, so did well.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
It was like, finally, Larry, you did something right with
this clock by actually bringing Jack with you.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
And yes, yes, I also.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Realized otherwise you would have been out of there.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, he would not have as you did. Yeah. I
really enjoyed the scene between Jack and It's armstrong right,
the unpleasant Yes, great. Yeah. It shows that sometimes somebody
who you have no respect for otherwise, can you know,
give you some perspective, and you need to be open
(15:45):
to everybody, and that she reached out to him in
that way, and that she really had a very valuable
insight to share.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
That you know, we tend to dismiss her as just
but she was kind. She was very kind.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
She was kind of like, guys, you make me look quick,
absolutely horrible all day, Like can you give me a
little yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
But then there was that little ending he says, thanks
for giving me some hope.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
She's like, oh I didn't, Yeah, I didn't mean to.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Well, she's got to stay true, but still she that
was that was a nice scene. I really enjoyed that
and I liked the message parenting tip wise, sometimes you
can get insights from people you otherwise do not like
and do not respect, and you have to be open
(16:44):
at least I will open to everybody. Sometimes. It's like
we talked about parenting books last week, that you take
what you need and leave the rest and adjust what
you take to fit you. But it's the same with
people who might otherwise make your blood boil if sometimes
they have a good insight that you can just remove
(17:05):
from the rest and polish in the way that you wish,
and it can be useful. So, but that was that
was very sweet. So I also enjoyed how much missus
Fish is enjoying all of this. She's like, she said,
(17:29):
she thinks that the opera is an opportunity to wear
her jewels and talk to people she likes, and to
pick up to drink all the delicious tea. She's like,
she's like a little bee going from group to group
collecting gossip.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yes, she's very wonderful.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
All so fun for her. M hm.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
So yeah, And was there any was there any Aurora?
Speaker 6 (17:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Just to other was there No? I don't there's any
mention of herdle.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
No.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I think that she was mentioned, but she didn't appear.
I don't believe.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh, I think it was what Agnes was saying that
she's now going to be excluded from society, and that
she will go to Newport with Aurora and the other
outcasts and at least they will have wine or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yes, that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
You know, it's it sounds like she could have a
good time there. Just steer clear of Felicierer's shot.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, but you know, it's a good introduce her to
your maid.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
A good parenting tip that there are snobs in every circle.
You know, no matter what, you're never going to find
a group where somebody doesn't think they're better than everybody else.
So find the people who you can sit in a
corner and laugh at them with. So like missus f Yes, exactly,
(18:56):
Missus Fish observing all of these.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
She doesn't laugh at people.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Well, she just gossips.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
She sort of just giggles softly to herself. I think
I hope she has somebody at home, whether it be
a partner or a child or a sympathetic servant, who
she can go home and just tell all these stories too.
Oh and then this thing happened. Oh and then this thing.
(19:24):
Oh can you believe this? She's writing it down and
we'll have a just a killer society novel to come
out at some point, or she just just enjoys her
life and that's it. That's sufficient, Yeah, keeps her own canceled.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yes, So next Wednesday we will continue with season three,
episode four.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
As I mentioned, it is called marriage is a Game?
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Oh yeah, are we gonna I mean, we already know
some there'reages that are a gamble, but are we gonna
move Are we gonna move.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Further along with Larry and Marion? Or how many weeks
are we gonna just sort of.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Not?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
They can't just like be happy from the beginning, you know,
they've got to keep introducing that.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh well whatever, it would be a gamble though, yep,
it would.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
But we'll see.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
We'll see next Wednesday, and we'll be back here tomorrow
for our weekly Roundabout round up.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
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