August 13, 2025 • 25 mins
Every Wednesday, we share our thoughts on a newer entertainment property, and currently that's The Gilded Age. This episode's crisis was the will-they-or-won't-they wedding of Gladys to the Duke of Buckingham. But if you know Bertha, we think you know how this turns out. Mentioned: Recaps at the Drinks with Broads Substack.
Next Wednesday, we'll watch season 3, episode 5, "A Different World." Our weekly roundup is off this week, so join us back here next Tuesday for Lost (season 3, episode 12, "Par Avion").
This episode was recorded before a live audience ... of dogs.
Next Wednesday, we'll watch season 3, episode 5, "A Different World." Our weekly roundup is off this week, so join us back here next Tuesday for Lost (season 3, episode 12, "Par Avion").
This episode was recorded before a live audience ... of dogs.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
I'm Catherine Hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
and let's all make like we're doing something important for
our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
a newer entertainment property, and for this week of August eleventh,
(00:45):
we're continuing with The Gilded Age, Season three, Episode four,
Marriage is a gambleh. As we said this followed on
love is Never easy last week, and it's not especially
love and marriage are a struggle for yes, everyone involved.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
In a romantic comedy. No I did did like for perspective,
and I suppose this is a parenting tip in some way.
Uh Marian pointing out that their friend who married for
love it didn't work out, and her friend who their
friends who married as a business transaction are doing quite well.
(01:30):
So you can't ever say, I mean, certainly, I think
we think the person Gladys was in love with would
not have lasted very well, right, And so sometimes, you
know what, you just got to.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Go along with it, even though you don't want to
because you don't want to show your mother that you
are That's true.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Oh, there was very much that element, isn't there. Don't
want to give her the satisfaction, but you know, needther
you nor your father can figure out anything else to
do so.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Right, so it's kind of game over for Gladys, even
though she takes to her room for an indeterminate amount
of time that might have been a few weeks unclear.
In the you know, they make it certainly a cliffhanger
of will she or won't she show up at the church.
(02:23):
I knew that she would. I mean, we've seen pictures
like I think it was. I feel like it was
in the trailer.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Maybe it wasn't, I don't know, but we're watching it
a little behind.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
We are watching very.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Hard to be on social media without seeing pictures of yes,
things that have happened recently.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yes, so so, yes, she as I had assumed she would,
showed up, cried her way down the aisle, with which
maybe people couldn't see behind her veil unclear. I do
believe that the Duke's nasty sister gotta gotta look at
(03:04):
her crying. So that was that was sad. So yeah,
we had we had two two sisters up here. We
had Bertha's sister Monica.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Both unwanted, yes, unwelcome, and yet there they were.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yes, Monica played by Merrit Weaver. She was. She was
a lot of.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Fun costume in the right period. I don't see her
in historical things very often.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yes, And Bertha had to engineer the destruction of the
dress she was wearing so she wouldn't wear it to
the wedding. Oh just oops, this coffee. I don't know
how it's spilled.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Just appreciate for a moment how hard Bertha works. We
don't always approve of what she works towards. But she, uh,
she's a busy girl. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
She is. And she wasn't going to let her sister's
ugly dress. And she tells George it would have been
unkind to let her wear the dress.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
With all the other things she has to worry about,
is my daughter gonna bail on this marriage and and
humiliate me in front of all of society, she still
has time to think of her sister. Yep, it's kind
of Galabertha.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
What a lovely lady.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Who invited the former help who's married to the old dude.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I know. I don't know how she.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Because he was just there making observations like nice to
see you, actress whose name I don't remember, right, but
I remember you, and glad you get another episode? But
why would I would think Bertha would do everything in
her power to keep that woman away from him, unless
she wants to be like, look at me, Yeah I did, yeah,
(05:05):
uh huh.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And and she had to kind of swallow her work,
like I've never even met this sister, and missus Fish
is like, oh, how would you have met her? No reason?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, oops, yeah, gotta be more careful yourself there, sister. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Well, the next in addition to whatever challenge is Gladys
face is the next challenge. Romantic challenge will be uh,
Larry selling Mary into his mother.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
She sort of knows because she let her be the bridesmaid,
or it was just.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Well he didn't. He didn't push her as the bridesmaid
because he wants to be with her.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Just because she's a neighbor and it's convenient.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, she'll fit there.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I gotta think that brother's gonna have something to say
about this. But oh yeah, absolutely, you know who knows.
Maybe she got she got the one, she got this
one thing done. Does she want to have I don't know.
She probably will need Larry to marry somebody with money
to solve their money problems.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, but Larry, let's just no, just made a bundle
from Jack's clock. So Jack got half, but together they
got they each got three hundred dollars, which.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Larry essentially for doing nothing but having a name that
they could attach, that.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
They could set up meetings.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah right, yeah, and you didn't get it man, Although
Jack is like, this is more money than I've ever
imagined having in my life. So he's not upset.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, oh yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't tell me.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
He hasn't just put this under his mattress in this
little Footman Garrett.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yes, because the drinks with broad substack informs me that
this three hundred thousand is worth in today's dollars, well
over eleven million dollars. Yeah, so, Jack, I mean it's
it's like abstract at that point to him, you know,
(07:16):
I mean, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Don't let Oscar talk in, don't let Oscar have it.
Don't let Oscar know there's that much money in the house. No,
don't let Agnes know there's that much money in the house.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Right, she's a bottomatic with living under the uh, the
sponsorship of her.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Sister, right, who, as we as we knew what happened,
uh invited a woman into the house to perform a seance.
Andrea Martin, Hello.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
What's it? Oh my god? Did I not notice it?
Andria Martin? Yeah, oh shoot, I'm gonna have to go
watch that scene again.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
But what you have a seance to to communicate with
your husband, who was a religious individual. I don't think
he would have approved of this.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I don't think so either, although he was just a
very agreeable person, especially where Ada came.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
This is the work of the devil. But I can
at least talk to her, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Be fine, My poor wife, I just.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Picking at your sister for buying a dress and then
you're spending your money on this.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yes, and also like, I don't think most seances are
conducted in at like eleven o'clock in the morning drink
because Agnes was like, oh, I'll be home by lunch,
and Ada is like, okay, great, that will give me
enough time to fit in my seance while you're gone. No,
(08:53):
I won't.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah. Uh. We had some more good times in Newport
with Peggy and her family.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
And I forget his name, hot doctor his family.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Lusha was shod just giving the let's see, who is
she the equivalent of on the She's she's sort of
sort of got some Agnes vibes. Yes, very disapproving and
sarcastic and snobby, snobby, very snobby and not going to
(09:37):
approve of Peggy and her son. I don't believe no,
am I hallucinating Or was there a story in the
first season where Pegy was married and had a child
and then her dad got rid of the child. Somehow
her dad told her the kid was dead.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And disappeared her from the guy and somehow ended the marriage.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, and then the kid wasn't dead, but then he
did die subsequently die. Yes, So there was this whole scandal,
which I gotta think Lucia Shod is going to turn
up at some point, right, would there not be a
chance of them?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, I think this all happened in Philadelphia, and the
dad worked very hard.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
To I feel like has people on a retainer to
go check out individuals who show an interest in her son.
I want to complete dossier, send the Pinkerton agents out. Yes, yeah,
I unless we've just forgotten that part of season one
and we're not going to ever talk about it, which
(10:48):
is also possible.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, well, I think that though.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
A different way with that character.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Never mind, I think the former husband might also be
dead at this point.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Oh, speaking of former spouses. Yes, miss the chef's wife
finally dies, So you're gonna propose to missus Bruce, And
she's like, I have a husband that.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Won't work for me. I'm sorry to say, Ah, she
has a husband who's in an asylum. Yes, she doesn't
want to abandon him and his in his illness.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So they will just one presumes, just go on.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, eventually he'll they just conveniently die.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I suppose neither of them are getting any younger, though
the chef doesn't look like he's got that long. But
still it was a surprising little scene there between the
two of them. But I'm not sure even if it
is your mother's ring, I'm not sure about giving your
(11:54):
next wife the same rings that your wife that here the.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Former wife a little greedy.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yes, if it's in the family. Probably the rich people
do it all the time. Yeah, it's not like you
can go out and buy another one, right, so.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Or take it down to the.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Downstairs action in this, yes, this one. And who do
we think was selling secrets to the newspapers?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
We're supposed to think it was somebody, so, I mean,
it's not above it's not out of the question that
it might be uh Bertha, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Right, But then it went too far, you know, and
she didn't approve of it any any longer. But I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I don't realise one of the servants, well.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Maybe Adelaide, I don't. I don't trust that one.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
She's off to England now temporarily.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
And she might be mad about that because she's off
to England to train her replacement and then get out.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So I take a boat act all by yourself, yeah,
or else just be put out to service to somebody
else in England.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I don't know, Yeah, but would be I.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Would think it'd be exciting for her.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, I don't know, right.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Leave all her friends and stuff. That's kind of think
And I don't think Gladys is we're a real good
time for a while.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
So I'm wondering if Bertha's instruction to her marrying daughter
is better than missus Bridgington's instruction to her first daughter
to marry, which was declared to be unsatisfactory.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, I feel like bas.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
More down to earth. Yes, might have just given some
uh some slightly more graphic depiction.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Right, Maybe that's why birth, That why Gladys was in
her room for a couple of weeks without wanting to
come out. You know, she's like, hold on, this is
really too much now.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, but as Hector says romantically, it will be embarrassing
for us both. But other people have survived.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Right, and let's just get it over with his basic plan.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Which honestly not a bad idea. You don't want to
you don't want to be just like worrying about it
suspicious and then it becomes a whole big thing. So
just you know, we're on a boat. Yes, that's true,
(14:42):
So I don't know. I suppose the parenting tip here
is do not marry your child to be a person
they do not want to marry.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But Bertha is not listening to us, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Is fairly convinced that this is the way to give
her child a meaningful life, and she is just possibly deluded,
but she is doing it theoretically with loving intent, right,
But I don't think it's going to go so well,
we'll see, you never know.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yes, well, I watched a little trailer for the remaining episodes,
and the sister at one point the Duke's yeah. At
one point, the Duke says to her something like, you know, well,
it was your idea for me to marry a Yankee
heiress to you know, save their home or whatever, and
(15:42):
she says, well, I didn't think you'd bring her back,
basically like, I didn't even think i'd have to interact
with this person. So yeah, well I'm not what you thought.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You could have done, way worse than Gladys he can.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, she's quite malleable, it seems.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yes, although she also one hopes, has some of her
mother in her.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
She's gonna need that.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I think but that require kicking.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, well, I do hope she learned that.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I hope she does. I hope she has it in
her someplace. Yes, and if not, I hope Bertha hops
on a boat and comes over there. Yes, deploys swift justice.
So should be scared of her if you're not scared
of the kid, although then again, they may soon be
penniless if JP Morgan's yes, if his threats predictions are true, yes.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Well once again Larry is now.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yes, Larry can help out.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
But there were some intimations in the in this trailer
that maybe Larry isn't so good with money, like, oh,
he's good at apparently negotiating, but yes, maybe hanging on
to it honest, not so much.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Oh, Larry, Marry, please do not be feckless, because we
like you and Marion together.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah. Well, he definitely.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Feel like she could possibly find a more stable match.
Oh well, let's see. At one point of Bertha says,
go to bed, George and wake up sensible. Yes, I
feel like that's a parenting tip. You know, I think
(17:37):
that you could say that to your children sometimes.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yes, what it worked unclear, but yes, I did enjoy that.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It's just like, we are going to we are going
to end this right now.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, we're gonna you know, reset.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Reset, and uh let's uh, let's see how it is
in the morning. That's sometimes that is the way to
get past a bump.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yes, time out, everybody, take a step back, have a
nice rest, and we'll try again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Do you This isn't really parenting related, but there was
this whole thing where there was an article in the
newspaper about Missus Astor's daughter, and so Missus Astor was like, well,
you're not coming to this wedding, you know, because because
of this. And then at the wedding Ada says to
(18:36):
Missus Astor some I'm like, oh, what was it? There
was something in.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
The paper that we were gonna we were.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Going to ask and I was like, Aida, what where
did that come from? Like, she hasn't been that sort
of space cadet before, has.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
She pretty space cadet?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
But I mean to just I don't know that well,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
She didn't remember what the story was about, just that
there was a story, right, But still I don't think
you talk about Missus talked to Missus Astor about her
name being in the papers. Any reason, good or bad.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Right, And I feel like Ada knows that or she once.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
She passive aggressively being was she acting ditsy even when
she really meant to be, or which doesn't seem like.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Her No, because she's just she doesn't want to be cruel,
I mean no.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, she's just becoming more of a Are we supposed
to think maybe she's losing a step or something like.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
That, right, right, Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, yeah,
I agree that she has been kind of flaky at times,
and see hiring a psychic, but that just seemed a
step beyond you know. Yeah, Well, don't raise your children
(20:02):
so that one sister will refuse to you know, so
that your children will have to go behind your back
to invite yeah, to invite your sister to their wedding, Larry, Yeah, yeah,
stay friendly with the extended family, and if not, make
(20:24):
your choices specifically known, and you know, possibly.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Cut the phone lines or the to instruct the servants
that know.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, don't mail any letters.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Oh yeah. Yes. If you have a sibling that you
do not wish to interact with in certain situations, what
do you do? How do you you theoretically want your
child to be to know your family members. Say friendly
with your family members, but you don't necessarily want to
(20:58):
interact with your family members. That's a difficult thing. That's
a parenting tip. I don't think, however, that the waybirth
handled it is the right. Is a tip, h boy
punting tip. Anticipate family awkwardness right and think through how
(21:20):
you're going to handle it instead of just assuming that
nobody will do anything without your.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Right Exactly when you have a son who's been making
him a lot of noise about about stuff that's kind
of not necessarily his business, you know, and teach your kids.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And this is something I have not quite done sufficiently,
although my mother before me, as I've mentioned many times,
did it well, teach your kids to fear you. You know,
Larry should know that if he does this thing, he's
going to be in it with his mom, and he
may have favors to ask of his mom in recent
you know soon, and he perhaps wants to be on
(22:05):
her good side. Yeah, you don't want your kids thinking, oh,
we'll do this, Mom will be really happy about this.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Ha ha ha.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Well, well I don't care what mom thinks. I'm just
going to do what I think is best, and you know,
if it bothers her, that'll be hilarious. We don't want this.
We want to train them to say, I would love
to see my aunt, but I don't think that mom
wants to deal with the stress of that right now,
with the wedding and everything. I'll just keep my mouth shut. Yeah,
(22:34):
parenting too, Yeah, you know, make them know that you're
a handful and respect that. My children do not respect that.
And I feel like I'm pretty much of a handful,
but I don't. They don't handle me the way that
I feel my mother earned the right to be handled,
darn it, because anybody knows how to do that, because
(22:57):
even Bertha, even Bertha is absolutely and definitively a handful. Yes,
George and Larry, we're just off doing things that no, no,
I mean there's one word she like just tells George
to go to bed, right he's looking old us in
(23:18):
one and I'm like, man, you made this, you made
this bed. Now you may not lie in it.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yes, so.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, just be clear mh and uh, exact punishment exactly,
and your daughter will get her butt out of her
room and go down the aisle. Yeh, yeh. Get me
out of this country and away from her. Yeah, even
(23:48):
the the sister may be unpleasant, but she's not my sister,
She's not my mother. I could probably do what I want. Right, Well,
how will this turn out?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yes? Well we shall so next Wednesday. The episode is
called a different world for lots of people. That's true
venture to guess, So.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I will be spending the time in between worrying less
about Gladys than I am about Jack. Buddy, put the
money someplace, say, but Larry open up? Well again, perhaps
not a bank? Could you put that? Where got that?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yet?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I'm nervous about that money. That's a lot of money,
even in those those days. Dollars, those dollars, right, so yikes?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yes, well, well we'll see what happens next week. Our
weekly Roundabout roundup is on vacation this week, so we
will be back next Tuesday, and that'll be for Lost
Season three, episode twelve.
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Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
I'm Catherine Hileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
and let's all make like we're doing something important for
our families. Each Wednesday we bring you our thoughts on
a newer entertainment property, and for this week of August eleventh,
(00:45):
we're continuing with The Gilded Age, Season three, Episode four,
Marriage is a gambleh. As we said this followed on
love is Never easy last week, and it's not especially
love and marriage are a struggle for yes, everyone involved.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
In a romantic comedy. No I did did like for perspective,
and I suppose this is a parenting tip in some way.
Uh Marian pointing out that their friend who married for
love it didn't work out, and her friend who their
friends who married as a business transaction are doing quite well.
(01:30):
So you can't ever say, I mean, certainly, I think
we think the person Gladys was in love with would
not have lasted very well, right, And so sometimes, you
know what, you just got to.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Go along with it, even though you don't want to
because you don't want to show your mother that you
are That's true.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Oh, there was very much that element, isn't there. Don't
want to give her the satisfaction, but you know, needther
you nor your father can figure out anything else to
do so.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Right, so it's kind of game over for Gladys, even
though she takes to her room for an indeterminate amount
of time that might have been a few weeks unclear.
In the you know, they make it certainly a cliffhanger
of will she or won't she show up at the church.
(02:23):
I knew that she would. I mean, we've seen pictures
like I think it was. I feel like it was
in the trailer.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Maybe it wasn't, I don't know, but we're watching it
a little behind.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
We are watching very.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Hard to be on social media without seeing pictures of yes,
things that have happened recently.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yes, so so, yes, she as I had assumed she would,
showed up, cried her way down the aisle, with which
maybe people couldn't see behind her veil unclear. I do
believe that the Duke's nasty sister gotta gotta look at
(03:04):
her crying. So that was that was sad. So yeah,
we had we had two two sisters up here. We
had Bertha's sister Monica.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Both unwanted, yes, unwelcome, and yet there they were.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yes, Monica played by Merrit Weaver. She was. She was
a lot of.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Fun costume in the right period. I don't see her
in historical things very often.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yes, And Bertha had to engineer the destruction of the
dress she was wearing so she wouldn't wear it to
the wedding. Oh just oops, this coffee. I don't know
how it's spilled.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Just appreciate for a moment how hard Bertha works. We
don't always approve of what she works towards. But she, uh,
she's a busy girl. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
She is. And she wasn't going to let her sister's
ugly dress. And she tells George it would have been
unkind to let her wear the dress.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
With all the other things she has to worry about,
is my daughter gonna bail on this marriage and and
humiliate me in front of all of society, she still
has time to think of her sister. Yep, it's kind
of Galabertha.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
What a lovely lady.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Who invited the former help who's married to the old dude.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I know. I don't know how she.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Because he was just there making observations like nice to
see you, actress whose name I don't remember, right, but
I remember you, and glad you get another episode? But
why would I would think Bertha would do everything in
her power to keep that woman away from him, unless
she wants to be like, look at me, Yeah I did, yeah,
(05:05):
uh huh.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And and she had to kind of swallow her work,
like I've never even met this sister, and missus Fish
is like, oh, how would you have met her? No reason?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, oops, yeah, gotta be more careful yourself there, sister. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Well, the next in addition to whatever challenge is Gladys
face is the next challenge. Romantic challenge will be uh,
Larry selling Mary into his mother.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
She sort of knows because she let her be the bridesmaid,
or it was just.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Well he didn't. He didn't push her as the bridesmaid
because he wants to be with her.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Just because she's a neighbor and it's convenient.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, she'll fit there.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I gotta think that brother's gonna have something to say
about this. But oh yeah, absolutely, you know who knows.
Maybe she got she got the one, she got this
one thing done. Does she want to have I don't know.
She probably will need Larry to marry somebody with money
to solve their money problems.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, but Larry, let's just no, just made a bundle
from Jack's clock. So Jack got half, but together they
got they each got three hundred dollars, which.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Larry essentially for doing nothing but having a name that
they could attach, that.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
They could set up meetings.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah right, yeah, and you didn't get it man, Although
Jack is like, this is more money than I've ever
imagined having in my life. So he's not upset.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, oh yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't tell me.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
He hasn't just put this under his mattress in this
little Footman Garrett.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yes, because the drinks with broad substack informs me that
this three hundred thousand is worth in today's dollars, well
over eleven million dollars. Yeah, so, Jack, I mean it's
it's like abstract at that point to him, you know,
(07:16):
I mean, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Don't let Oscar talk in, don't let Oscar have it.
Don't let Oscar know there's that much money in the house. No,
don't let Agnes know there's that much money in the house.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Right, she's a bottomatic with living under the uh, the
sponsorship of her.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Sister, right, who, as we as we knew what happened,
uh invited a woman into the house to perform a seance.
Andrea Martin, Hello.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
What's it? Oh my god? Did I not notice it?
Andria Martin? Yeah, oh shoot, I'm gonna have to go
watch that scene again.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
But what you have a seance to to communicate with
your husband, who was a religious individual. I don't think
he would have approved of this.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I don't think so either, although he was just a
very agreeable person, especially where Ada came.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
This is the work of the devil. But I can
at least talk to her, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Be fine, My poor wife, I just.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Picking at your sister for buying a dress and then
you're spending your money on this.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yes, and also like, I don't think most seances are
conducted in at like eleven o'clock in the morning drink
because Agnes was like, oh, I'll be home by lunch,
and Ada is like, okay, great, that will give me
enough time to fit in my seance while you're gone. No,
(08:53):
I won't.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah. Uh. We had some more good times in Newport
with Peggy and her family.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
And I forget his name, hot doctor his family.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Lusha was shod just giving the let's see, who is
she the equivalent of on the She's she's sort of
sort of got some Agnes vibes. Yes, very disapproving and
sarcastic and snobby, snobby, very snobby and not going to
(09:37):
approve of Peggy and her son. I don't believe no,
am I hallucinating Or was there a story in the
first season where Pegy was married and had a child
and then her dad got rid of the child. Somehow
her dad told her the kid was dead.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And disappeared her from the guy and somehow ended the marriage.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, and then the kid wasn't dead, but then he
did die subsequently die. Yes, So there was this whole scandal,
which I gotta think Lucia Shod is going to turn
up at some point, right, would there not be a
chance of them?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, I think this all happened in Philadelphia, and the
dad worked very hard.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
To I feel like has people on a retainer to
go check out individuals who show an interest in her son.
I want to complete dossier, send the Pinkerton agents out. Yes, yeah,
I unless we've just forgotten that part of season one
and we're not going to ever talk about it, which
(10:48):
is also possible.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, well, I think that though.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
A different way with that character.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Never mind, I think the former husband might also be
dead at this point.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Oh, speaking of former spouses. Yes, miss the chef's wife
finally dies, So you're gonna propose to missus Bruce, And
she's like, I have a husband that.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Won't work for me. I'm sorry to say, Ah, she
has a husband who's in an asylum. Yes, she doesn't
want to abandon him and his in his illness.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So they will just one presumes, just go on.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, eventually he'll they just conveniently die.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I suppose neither of them are getting any younger, though
the chef doesn't look like he's got that long. But
still it was a surprising little scene there between the
two of them. But I'm not sure even if it
is your mother's ring, I'm not sure about giving your
(11:54):
next wife the same rings that your wife that here the.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Former wife a little greedy.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yes, if it's in the family. Probably the rich people
do it all the time. Yeah, it's not like you
can go out and buy another one, right, so.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Or take it down to the.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Downstairs action in this, yes, this one. And who do
we think was selling secrets to the newspapers?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
We're supposed to think it was somebody, so, I mean,
it's not above it's not out of the question that
it might be uh Bertha, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Right, But then it went too far, you know, and
she didn't approve of it any any longer. But I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I don't realise one of the servants, well.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Maybe Adelaide, I don't. I don't trust that one.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
She's off to England now temporarily.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
And she might be mad about that because she's off
to England to train her replacement and then get out.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So I take a boat act all by yourself, yeah,
or else just be put out to service to somebody
else in England.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I don't know, Yeah, but would be I.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Would think it'd be exciting for her.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, I don't know, right.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Leave all her friends and stuff. That's kind of think
And I don't think Gladys is we're a real good
time for a while.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
So I'm wondering if Bertha's instruction to her marrying daughter
is better than missus Bridgington's instruction to her first daughter
to marry, which was declared to be unsatisfactory.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, I feel like bas.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
More down to earth. Yes, might have just given some
uh some slightly more graphic depiction.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Right, Maybe that's why birth, That why Gladys was in
her room for a couple of weeks without wanting to
come out. You know, she's like, hold on, this is
really too much now.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, but as Hector says romantically, it will be embarrassing
for us both. But other people have survived.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Right, and let's just get it over with his basic plan.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Which honestly not a bad idea. You don't want to
you don't want to be just like worrying about it
suspicious and then it becomes a whole big thing. So
just you know, we're on a boat. Yes, that's true,
(14:42):
So I don't know. I suppose the parenting tip here
is do not marry your child to be a person
they do not want to marry.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But Bertha is not listening to us, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Is fairly convinced that this is the way to give
her child a meaningful life, and she is just possibly deluded,
but she is doing it theoretically with loving intent, right,
But I don't think it's going to go so well,
we'll see, you never know.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yes, well, I watched a little trailer for the remaining episodes,
and the sister at one point the Duke's yeah. At
one point, the Duke says to her something like, you know, well,
it was your idea for me to marry a Yankee
heiress to you know, save their home or whatever, and
(15:42):
she says, well, I didn't think you'd bring her back,
basically like, I didn't even think i'd have to interact
with this person. So yeah, well I'm not what you thought.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You could have done, way worse than Gladys he can.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, she's quite malleable, it seems.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yes, although she also one hopes, has some of her
mother in her.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
She's gonna need that.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I think but that require kicking.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, well, I do hope she learned that.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I hope she does. I hope she has it in
her someplace. Yes, and if not, I hope Bertha hops
on a boat and comes over there. Yes, deploys swift justice.
So should be scared of her if you're not scared
of the kid, although then again, they may soon be
penniless if JP Morgan's yes, if his threats predictions are true, yes.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Well once again Larry is now.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yes, Larry can help out.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
But there were some intimations in the in this trailer
that maybe Larry isn't so good with money, like, oh,
he's good at apparently negotiating, but yes, maybe hanging on
to it honest, not so much.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Oh, Larry, Marry, please do not be feckless, because we
like you and Marion together.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah. Well, he definitely.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Feel like she could possibly find a more stable match.
Oh well, let's see. At one point of Bertha says,
go to bed, George and wake up sensible. Yes, I
feel like that's a parenting tip. You know, I think
(17:37):
that you could say that to your children sometimes.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yes, what it worked unclear, but yes, I did enjoy that.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It's just like, we are going to we are going
to end this right now.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, we're gonna you know, reset.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Reset, and uh let's uh, let's see how it is
in the morning. That's sometimes that is the way to
get past a bump.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yes, time out, everybody, take a step back, have a
nice rest, and we'll try again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Do you This isn't really parenting related, but there was
this whole thing where there was an article in the
newspaper about Missus Astor's daughter, and so Missus Astor was like, well,
you're not coming to this wedding, you know, because because
of this. And then at the wedding Ada says to
(18:36):
Missus Astor some I'm like, oh, what was it? There
was something in.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
The paper that we were gonna we were.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Going to ask and I was like, Aida, what where
did that come from? Like, she hasn't been that sort
of space cadet before, has.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
She pretty space cadet?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
But I mean to just I don't know that well,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
She didn't remember what the story was about, just that
there was a story, right, But still I don't think
you talk about Missus talked to Missus Astor about her
name being in the papers. Any reason, good or bad.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Right, And I feel like Ada knows that or she once.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
She passive aggressively being was she acting ditsy even when
she really meant to be, or which doesn't seem like.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Her No, because she's just she doesn't want to be cruel,
I mean no.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, she's just becoming more of a Are we supposed
to think maybe she's losing a step or something like.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
That, right, right, Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, yeah,
I agree that she has been kind of flaky at times,
and see hiring a psychic, but that just seemed a
step beyond you know. Yeah, Well, don't raise your children
(20:02):
so that one sister will refuse to you know, so
that your children will have to go behind your back
to invite yeah, to invite your sister to their wedding, Larry, Yeah, yeah,
stay friendly with the extended family, and if not, make
(20:24):
your choices specifically known, and you know, possibly.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Cut the phone lines or the to instruct the servants
that know.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, don't mail any letters.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Oh yeah. Yes. If you have a sibling that you
do not wish to interact with in certain situations, what
do you do? How do you you theoretically want your
child to be to know your family members. Say friendly
with your family members, but you don't necessarily want to
(20:58):
interact with your family members. That's a difficult thing. That's
a parenting tip. I don't think, however, that the waybirth
handled it is the right. Is a tip, h boy
punting tip. Anticipate family awkwardness right and think through how
(21:20):
you're going to handle it instead of just assuming that
nobody will do anything without your.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Right Exactly when you have a son who's been making
him a lot of noise about about stuff that's kind
of not necessarily his business, you know, and teach your kids.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And this is something I have not quite done sufficiently,
although my mother before me, as I've mentioned many times,
did it well, teach your kids to fear you. You know,
Larry should know that if he does this thing, he's
going to be in it with his mom, and he
may have favors to ask of his mom in recent
you know soon, and he perhaps wants to be on
(22:05):
her good side. Yeah, you don't want your kids thinking, oh,
we'll do this, Mom will be really happy about this.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Ha ha ha.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Well, well I don't care what mom thinks. I'm just
going to do what I think is best, and you know,
if it bothers her, that'll be hilarious. We don't want this.
We want to train them to say, I would love
to see my aunt, but I don't think that mom
wants to deal with the stress of that right now,
with the wedding and everything. I'll just keep my mouth shut. Yeah,
(22:34):
parenting too, Yeah, you know, make them know that you're
a handful and respect that. My children do not respect that.
And I feel like I'm pretty much of a handful,
but I don't. They don't handle me the way that
I feel my mother earned the right to be handled,
darn it, because anybody knows how to do that, because
(22:57):
even Bertha, even Bertha is absolutely and definitively a handful. Yes,
George and Larry, we're just off doing things that no, no,
I mean there's one word she like just tells George
to go to bed, right he's looking old us in
(23:18):
one and I'm like, man, you made this, you made
this bed. Now you may not lie in it.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yes, so.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, just be clear mh and uh, exact punishment exactly,
and your daughter will get her butt out of her
room and go down the aisle. Yeh, yeh. Get me
out of this country and away from her. Yeah, even
(23:48):
the the sister may be unpleasant, but she's not my sister,
She's not my mother. I could probably do what I want. Right, Well,
how will this turn out?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yes? Well we shall so next Wednesday. The episode is
called a different world for lots of people. That's true
venture to guess, So.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I will be spending the time in between worrying less
about Gladys than I am about Jack. Buddy, put the
money someplace, say, but Larry open up? Well again, perhaps
not a bank? Could you put that? Where got that?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yet?
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I'm nervous about that money. That's a lot of money,
even in those those days. Dollars, those dollars, right, so yikes?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yes, well, well we'll see what happens next week. Our
weekly Roundabout roundup is on vacation this week, so we
will be back next Tuesday, and that'll be for Lost
Season three, episode twelve.
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