August 28, 2025 • 22 mins
Here's what we're reading, recommending, and revisiting this week.
Catherine's library find is for all you Janeites who are also fiber artists. It's called Austentatious Crochet: 36 Contemporary Designs from the World of Jane Austen by Melissa Horozewski. Mentioned: The Mr. Darcy and Miss Tilney mystery series.
Terri's random recommendation is graciously stepping aside this week so Catherine can report on her trip to Scotland and England (speaking of the world of Jane Austen!). She visited London, Liverpool, and Edinburgh, where she attended performances at both the International Festival and the Fringe Festival—including one from Laura Benanti, of The Gilded Age and Broadway fame.
In the archives, we checked in on an episode from 2020 on parenting through the (kids') ages. It's hard all the time!
Next week's lineup:
Catherine's library find is for all you Janeites who are also fiber artists. It's called Austentatious Crochet: 36 Contemporary Designs from the World of Jane Austen by Melissa Horozewski. Mentioned: The Mr. Darcy and Miss Tilney mystery series.
Terri's random recommendation is graciously stepping aside this week so Catherine can report on her trip to Scotland and England (speaking of the world of Jane Austen!). She visited London, Liverpool, and Edinburgh, where she attended performances at both the International Festival and the Fringe Festival—including one from Laura Benanti, of The Gilded Age and Broadway fame.
In the archives, we checked in on an episode from 2020 on parenting through the (kids') ages. It's hard all the time!
Next week's lineup:
- Lost S3 E14, "Exposé," on Tuesday, September 2
- The Gilded Age S3 E7, "Ex-Communicated," on Wednesday, September 3
- Weekly roundup on Thursday, September 4
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And I'm Catherine Hileco.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Every Thursday, we're bringing you a library find, a pick
from our archives, and a parenting or pop culture tidbit
or two. Let's start with Catherine's library find of the week.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
So I just came back from a trip, which is
why the weekly Roundabout roundup was on hiatus for a
couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Went on the trip with it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yes, and I will discuss more later. But I was
in England and Scotland. So my library find is relevant
to that because it is called austin Tatious Crochet and
Austin spelled a U s t e n as in
(00:50):
Jane Austentatious Crochet thirty six Contemporary Designs from the World
of Jane Austin. So the idea is.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
That you can grow such a niche. But man, the
people in that niche are going to be so jazzed.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah. The idea is we will show you how to
crochet yourself an outfit that could be worn by Jane
Austen or her characters, or can be worn currently question
mark because the one on the cover I question it's.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's when you go to your Jane Austin book club
or the Jane Austen Weekend, you can wear it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You can wear these things. So according to the the
copy to the Scarf, Skirt or Chemise of Elizabeth Bennett.
That's what I was just about to say. Thirty six
original crochet project inspired by Austin novels, but fabulously brought
up to date and wearable today. But one of the
(01:52):
things that is wearable today, allegedly is a cape lit.
So I can't tell you the.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Day.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
You can wear whatever you want. You are not bound
by the strictures of the past. You can wear whatever
you want and you can take a picture of it
for Instagram and get lots of likes.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Right. Yes, the designs focus on women's wear, such as dresses, sweaters, cardigans,
and capelets, but also encompass accessories such as handbag, scarfs
and pillowcases, and clothing for children because that is what
your child wants, also to be dressed like a regency era.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
But I enjoy the They have no they have no
conceit that your boyfriend or husband is going to consent
to wear any.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Of yeah, women and children only, Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
It's like We're just gonna throw in the towel on
that one. We're not even gonna suggest it. Two and
a half. Men out there who enjoy Jane Austen can
just figure it out for themselves.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah they'll.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
They'll just not just enjoy Jane Austen, but are determined
to dress like.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, maybe they could. They could probably wear a cape lit.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You can make it a little longer.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, yeah, just just adapt that, my men.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Wonderful. Have you ever engaged in any Jane Austen activities?
I one time, at least one time, I went to
like a Jane Austin weekend or something. I don't I
don't remember anything about it except that it was Jane
Austin themed and I left my headlights on so when
(03:40):
I came out and my car was dead. Oh no,
these are the two things I remember. I don't remember
if it was multi multi day or just one long
day or what, but I did it. It's a thing
I did in my life, right, is go to a
Jane Austin themed activity.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Right, So wow, No, I've never.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
That's a fun factoid. You could drop into a coffermation.
I did something. I don't remember anything about it.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, I've never I've only read well as I had
as the library find a couple months ago, I think
was the like sort of mysteries that were set in
the world of Jane Austin.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So I've engaged in books and movies and things like
that that are right relevant but not yeah, not in
the event, And I have never went drafted.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
In a stage where I was heavily an Austin fan.
Never did I feel like I would like to crochet
something that is like the people wore in the books.
I don't think I never got that war. Maybe maybe
in my younger days, I would have you were started,
I would have started the crochet project. I would never
(04:56):
have gotten it to the point where I could have
wear it. I would get it to the point where
I could take the half a cuff I had finished
and hang it over something in my apartment and say, look,
look it is exactly Oh yeah, I'm crocheting Chanelson. Oh my, well,
(05:17):
have fun.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yes, we'll just add it to our list of crafty
books that I have found and will never actually partake of.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yes, always delightful. Yes, but did you bring a big
crocheting bag with you on your fabulous vacation and do
all sorts of crafty things. There are busy seeing and traveling.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yes, I was enjoying. I was busy walking. We think
a total of about seventy five miles over ten days. Yeah.
We were in London, liver Pool and Edinburgh.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So wow.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
We had just a couple of days in London, a
couple of days in Liverpool, and then a little more
time in Edinburgh because that was our main event. We
went because my son's school had to show that they
were putting on at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, so cool.
So Edinburgh was packed. I mean there were people everywhere
(06:28):
because they have it started as this international festival, so
like you know, professional ballets and operas and all kinds
of performing arts groups perform at the International Festival, but
then the Fringe sprang up around it and has has
(06:50):
overtaken it. I mean there's thousands I think of performances
and you know there's venues all over the city. So
like for my son's most things are pretty short. They're
an hour ish and so have you have the venue
to yourself for two hours to set up, get everybody in,
(07:13):
do your show, and then get out. Like the performers
basically leave the stage and just walk out the door,
Like they don't change out of their costumes. They just
go because it's somebody else's turn, you.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Know, right away.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
So fun though, Yes, it was really fun. It was
very cool to see him doing his thing. Yeah, and
I got to see some other performances as well. I
got to see Laura Bananti do a kind of like
a one woman show. I mean she did have she
had a few musicians backing her up, and once in
(07:57):
a while they threw in a little comment or something,
but it was mostly her telling stories about herself, her life,
her career, and then with original songs mixed in. So
it was really fun to see that. And it was held.
(08:17):
The performance was in a classroom at it OH at
the university, because it was like one of those you know,
sloped floor you know, like tiered seating like a movie theater,
with tables for you to put your laptop or your
note your notepad, but small. I mean, it probably held
(08:43):
I don't know, sixty people or something like. It wasn't
it wasn't a big lecture hall.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So they really think she's like workshopping to do on
Broadway at some point, or she just happened to be
in Edinburgh and say sure, I'll sing and talk.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
It was I don't think it's something that could go
on Broadway, but maybe like a cabaret act or something,
because it wasn't that long. I don't know if if
you know, she's working on different pieces of it and
trying to make it longer. So she said she was
going to do it again in London in September, and
(09:20):
then I did I think she said something about New
York eventually, So so yeah, that was fun to be. Yeah,
to check that out, something.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Kind of raw with somebody kind of famous is cool.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, yeah, in like a small space where she's like
twenty feet away from you. Yeah, so that was really fun.
Of course we got to do touristy things like Edinburgh
Castle and the Tower of London and the Alleyway in
Liverpool where the pub is where the Beatles first played wow,
(10:01):
which of course everyone you know, has to make a
big deal now and we So I was there with
my daughter and her boyfriend and his family is from Liverpool,
his parents grew up there, he still has family there
and so this friend of his family met us for
(10:24):
breakfast and then she said, well, I'll give you the
whistle Stop Beatles tour. And she drove us to the
Penny Lane sign. You know, there's a street that's actually
called Penny Lane and there's a sign and she's like,
drove us there, and then she drove us to the
Strawberry Fields, like the gates of Strawberry Field, so you
(10:45):
could see that, and one more stop. We didn't one
more place. We didn't even stop, but she just pointed like, oh,
that's John Lennon's childhood home. She's like, okay, knives. So
it was it was pretty cool. Yeah, pretty cool to
see all that. Yeah, oh and we did we did
(11:08):
high tea at Harrod's, which is a department store. Yes,
that has a very fancy tea room with like crystal
chandeliers and velvet banquettes and a piano player and the
whole the works.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So that was was your son able to be with
you on all this traveling about or was he having
to stay there?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
And he was only yeah, he was only in Edinburgh
because they performed like twelve times I think they did
their show. So yeah, he wasn't there for any of
that part. Okay, not to get to have any tea.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You learned that working is a drag. Yeah, I'm sure
he was very excited to be doing that. Yes, yes,
he had a good time. So so yeah, what else
can I tell you? That was it was a lot
of fun. So how long were you going?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Altogether? Two weeks? Ten days? You know, And it takes
it takes a long time to get it, you know.
I mean I left. I left my house at nine
in the morning, I think on the day I left,
and I took a short flight over to Detroit, which
(12:29):
is where my daughter and her boyfriend were going to
meet me for the next flight. But I had a
long layover in Detroit and then yeah, and then it's
you know, like a seven hour flight and right and
you it's overnight, Like I don't I don't think there's
even really an option to go at some other time
(12:52):
of day, like you always fly overnight. So so yeah,
it takes a long time. But but my daughter did
a ton of research, figured out so many places for
us to go, made dinner reservations like.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
This is the cool thing when your kid can do that,
yeah instead of you.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It was Wow, she did an awesome job.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
That is wonderful. What a lovely transition.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, it was. It was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And you could just show and she even paid for everything.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, she even paid for some of it. You know,
I did try to pay for a lot of it,
but there were some things that she that she paid for.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
So nice.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It was very cool.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Well she's out of college, a working girl, right.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, yeah, she's got her her real job now. So
it does that just leads us right into our archive,
doesn't it, Yes, it does. We in twenty twenty, we
were talking about parenting through the ages, meaning the meaning
the kids ages and how you know, people like to
(13:59):
say like, oh, age two is so hard, or the
newborn stage is so hard, or teenagers are so hard,
Like it's all hard, is different, and it's all like
kind of rewarding in different ways too, because then you
get to the point where your kid can play in
the whole trip and yeah, you're just along for the ride.
(14:23):
So nice, that's pretty nice. But I am I am
still it's been you know, this will be the third
year since I had a child in high school and
I'm appreciating that, still still happy about it.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And you're so how much longer does your son have
in college?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Two more years? This year, this year, and one more.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, so does he come home? Will will he be
home for some part of the summer or actually it's not.
Summer is done now, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, he's been here and he just came back from
the trip, and he'll he'll have just less than a
week at home before he goes back.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
It's gonna have to be out buying pencils and school clothes,
right right, you don't have to be finishing the summer
packet and no writing the check to the university.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
But yeah, that's already done. Yeah, and I don't even
write the check. I go to the pay it online.
I go to the special bank account and say you
pay it.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Oh, there you go.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That's nice.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I used to pay for my kids community college online
with a credit card, and one time the credit card
it was like too much, the amount was too much
or something. There was something that the credit card company
didn't like about it, and so yeah, stopped it. And
I tried it again, and they stopped it again, and
I'm like, come on, right, I have a high enough
credit limit. Yeah, they thought somebody was scamming me. Right,
(16:06):
You're like, no, I want to say I want the
Please did you please let this go through. Come on, yeah,
you want the paints. It's exactly so eventually it did.
But I felt like, this is a college. You're going
to think I'm a deadbeat.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Now, right, Decline decline, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I mean I'm been in the post college thing for
a long time now. Whenever somebody asks me how old
my kids are, it just I mean, they're thirty two
and thirty five. My kids are middle aged.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's like they're not even they're not in school, they're
not just post school. They're just solidly in their thirties,
you know, and still living at home.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
But kind of takes you by surprise every time it.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Does, like they are really they're not, like we've said here,
they're not even your adults anymore. They're just plain old adults.
So you know, what is my role in their lives
in this case other than you know, landlord, and I
(17:16):
mean I don't my husband cooks, so I'm not their chef.
I'm their personal nagging device. Feeling good about yourself. Wind
this thing up and she'll take it down in the face.
But it's you know, I do have the stress of
(17:37):
jobs and worrying about jobs and stuff. And trying to
help one or the other of them get a job
or get a better job or something like that. But that's,
you know, that's a different level from day to day care.
Day to day care wise, they're pretty much on their
own right, you know. They can they can spend time alone.
I don't have to worry about it. I don't have
(17:59):
to think of things to do with them. I don't
have to play games with them. I don't have to
watch TV with them. They're just adults spending their time
the way they want to spend their time.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You don't have to go to IEP meetings that Oh gosh, yes,
I still have I ep PTSD, so that is a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
But I you know, it's like every now and then
I think of, you know, like when my daughter's having
trouble getting a job, should we go There's there's agencies
that help with this. We could herk her up with
some benefits and stuff. And I just every cell in
my body screams, no more biocracy, nor people telling me
they know more than I do about my own family.
(18:41):
Not so I haven't done it, and that may be bad,
it might be good to do it, And I just
I have such scarring right from ye both of us,
is that I just can't. I don't. I can't ask
for help anymore. Ever, they could theoretically do it themselves,
(19:03):
but they're not gonna.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
But so yeah, it's easy, you know, as with everything
easy in some ways hard and other ways. I mean,
even if my kids were at this age married and
had their own houses and their own kids and were
living their lives, I would still be worrying about them.
I know. My mother's still worried and obsessed about me
after I was on the other hand side of the country.
(19:28):
So you know, there's always a piece of you that
is occupied with worrying, yeah, and wondering if something should
be different than it is. There's like a little a
little Felicia were shod in the Gilded Age over one
(19:50):
shoulder saying, you sure that's the right thing? That's that
could be a bad idea, I don't think you should
do that, and little Bertha over the other sho are saying,
make them do what you want. Go on, it doesn't
matter if they're married, go make them do what you
want right, never really free, no no matter how old
(20:16):
they get.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Or how old we get.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yes, is that harder than on us or on them.
I'm not sure. My kids are pretty oblivious. I think
I hope, I hope they are.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, I don't know. But you'll be living the independent
and EMPTINSS life. You'll have to tell me what it's like.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yes, we'll be back to that shortly, at least in
terms of out of the house.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yes, even when my mine were in college, they were
home right. But I don't mind. I like it. I mean,
I really you don't think should I be looking at
group homes? Should I? I don't want it that, you know,
I want them here. We're fine, We're fine all together.
We don't get on each other's nerves that much.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And really, I mean everyone does at every age, that's right.
So that's yes, that's not a metric to somebody's going
to be.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Up in your living space getting on your nerves. It
might as well be family, right, not just some stranger.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
And I'm Catherine Hileco.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Every Thursday, we're bringing you a library find, a pick
from our archives, and a parenting or pop culture tidbit
or two. Let's start with Catherine's library find of the week.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
So I just came back from a trip, which is
why the weekly Roundabout roundup was on hiatus for a
couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Went on the trip with it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yes, and I will discuss more later. But I was
in England and Scotland. So my library find is relevant
to that because it is called austin Tatious Crochet and
Austin spelled a U s t e n as in
(00:50):
Jane Austentatious Crochet thirty six Contemporary Designs from the World
of Jane Austin. So the idea is.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
That you can grow such a niche. But man, the
people in that niche are going to be so jazzed.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah. The idea is we will show you how to
crochet yourself an outfit that could be worn by Jane
Austen or her characters, or can be worn currently question
mark because the one on the cover I question it's.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
It's when you go to your Jane Austin book club
or the Jane Austen Weekend, you can wear it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You can wear these things. So according to the the
copy to the Scarf, Skirt or Chemise of Elizabeth Bennett.
That's what I was just about to say. Thirty six
original crochet project inspired by Austin novels, but fabulously brought
up to date and wearable today. But one of the
(01:52):
things that is wearable today, allegedly is a cape lit.
So I can't tell you the.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Day.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
You can wear whatever you want. You are not bound
by the strictures of the past. You can wear whatever
you want and you can take a picture of it
for Instagram and get lots of likes.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Right. Yes, the designs focus on women's wear, such as dresses, sweaters, cardigans,
and capelets, but also encompass accessories such as handbag, scarfs
and pillowcases, and clothing for children because that is what
your child wants, also to be dressed like a regency era.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
But I enjoy the They have no they have no
conceit that your boyfriend or husband is going to consent
to wear any.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Of yeah, women and children only, Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
It's like We're just gonna throw in the towel on
that one. We're not even gonna suggest it. Two and
a half. Men out there who enjoy Jane Austen can
just figure it out for themselves.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah they'll.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
They'll just not just enjoy Jane Austen, but are determined
to dress like.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, maybe they could. They could probably wear a cape lit.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You can make it a little longer.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, yeah, just just adapt that, my men.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Wonderful. Have you ever engaged in any Jane Austen activities?
I one time, at least one time, I went to
like a Jane Austin weekend or something. I don't I
don't remember anything about it except that it was Jane
Austin themed and I left my headlights on so when
(03:40):
I came out and my car was dead. Oh no,
these are the two things I remember. I don't remember
if it was multi multi day or just one long
day or what, but I did it. It's a thing
I did in my life, right, is go to a
Jane Austin themed activity.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Right, So wow, No, I've never.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
That's a fun factoid. You could drop into a coffermation.
I did something. I don't remember anything about it.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah, I've never I've only read well as I had
as the library find a couple months ago, I think
was the like sort of mysteries that were set in
the world of Jane Austin.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
So I've engaged in books and movies and things like
that that are right relevant but not yeah, not in
the event, And I have never went drafted.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
In a stage where I was heavily an Austin fan.
Never did I feel like I would like to crochet
something that is like the people wore in the books.
I don't think I never got that war. Maybe maybe
in my younger days, I would have you were started,
I would have started the crochet project. I would never
(04:56):
have gotten it to the point where I could have
wear it. I would get it to the point where
I could take the half a cuff I had finished
and hang it over something in my apartment and say, look,
look it is exactly Oh yeah, I'm crocheting Chanelson. Oh my, well,
(05:17):
have fun.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yes, we'll just add it to our list of crafty
books that I have found and will never actually partake of.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yes, always delightful. Yes, but did you bring a big
crocheting bag with you on your fabulous vacation and do
all sorts of crafty things. There are busy seeing and traveling.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yes, I was enjoying. I was busy walking. We think
a total of about seventy five miles over ten days. Yeah.
We were in London, liver Pool and Edinburgh.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So wow.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
We had just a couple of days in London, a
couple of days in Liverpool, and then a little more
time in Edinburgh because that was our main event. We
went because my son's school had to show that they
were putting on at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, so cool.
So Edinburgh was packed. I mean there were people everywhere
(06:28):
because they have it started as this international festival, so
like you know, professional ballets and operas and all kinds
of performing arts groups perform at the International Festival, but
then the Fringe sprang up around it and has has
(06:50):
overtaken it. I mean there's thousands I think of performances
and you know there's venues all over the city. So
like for my son's most things are pretty short. They're
an hour ish and so have you have the venue
to yourself for two hours to set up, get everybody in,
(07:13):
do your show, and then get out. Like the performers
basically leave the stage and just walk out the door,
Like they don't change out of their costumes. They just
go because it's somebody else's turn, you.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Know, right away.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
So fun though, Yes, it was really fun. It was
very cool to see him doing his thing. Yeah, and
I got to see some other performances as well. I
got to see Laura Bananti do a kind of like
a one woman show. I mean she did have she
had a few musicians backing her up, and once in
(07:57):
a while they threw in a little comment or something,
but it was mostly her telling stories about herself, her life,
her career, and then with original songs mixed in. So
it was really fun to see that. And it was held.
(08:17):
The performance was in a classroom at it OH at
the university, because it was like one of those you know,
sloped floor you know, like tiered seating like a movie theater,
with tables for you to put your laptop or your
note your notepad, but small. I mean, it probably held
(08:43):
I don't know, sixty people or something like. It wasn't
it wasn't a big lecture hall.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So they really think she's like workshopping to do on
Broadway at some point, or she just happened to be
in Edinburgh and say sure, I'll sing and talk.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
It was I don't think it's something that could go
on Broadway, but maybe like a cabaret act or something,
because it wasn't that long. I don't know if if
you know, she's working on different pieces of it and
trying to make it longer. So she said she was
going to do it again in London in September, and
(09:20):
then I did I think she said something about New
York eventually, So so yeah, that was fun to be. Yeah,
to check that out, something.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Kind of raw with somebody kind of famous is cool.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, yeah, in like a small space where she's like
twenty feet away from you. Yeah, so that was really fun.
Of course we got to do touristy things like Edinburgh
Castle and the Tower of London and the Alleyway in
Liverpool where the pub is where the Beatles first played wow,
(10:01):
which of course everyone you know, has to make a
big deal now and we So I was there with
my daughter and her boyfriend and his family is from Liverpool,
his parents grew up there, he still has family there
and so this friend of his family met us for
(10:24):
breakfast and then she said, well, I'll give you the
whistle Stop Beatles tour. And she drove us to the
Penny Lane sign. You know, there's a street that's actually
called Penny Lane and there's a sign and she's like,
drove us there, and then she drove us to the
Strawberry Fields, like the gates of Strawberry Field, so you
(10:45):
could see that, and one more stop. We didn't one
more place. We didn't even stop, but she just pointed like, oh,
that's John Lennon's childhood home. She's like, okay, knives. So
it was it was pretty cool. Yeah, pretty cool to
see all that. Yeah, oh and we did we did
(11:08):
high tea at Harrod's, which is a department store. Yes,
that has a very fancy tea room with like crystal
chandeliers and velvet banquettes and a piano player and the
whole the works.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So that was was your son able to be with
you on all this traveling about or was he having
to stay there?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
And he was only yeah, he was only in Edinburgh
because they performed like twelve times I think they did
their show. So yeah, he wasn't there for any of
that part. Okay, not to get to have any tea.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You learned that working is a drag. Yeah, I'm sure
he was very excited to be doing that. Yes, yes,
he had a good time. So so yeah, what else
can I tell you? That was it was a lot
of fun. So how long were you going?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Altogether? Two weeks? Ten days? You know, And it takes
it takes a long time to get it, you know.
I mean I left. I left my house at nine
in the morning, I think on the day I left,
and I took a short flight over to Detroit, which
(12:29):
is where my daughter and her boyfriend were going to
meet me for the next flight. But I had a
long layover in Detroit and then yeah, and then it's
you know, like a seven hour flight and right and
you it's overnight, Like I don't I don't think there's
even really an option to go at some other time
(12:52):
of day, like you always fly overnight. So so yeah,
it takes a long time. But but my daughter did
a ton of research, figured out so many places for
us to go, made dinner reservations like.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
This is the cool thing when your kid can do that,
yeah instead of you.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It was Wow, she did an awesome job.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
That is wonderful. What a lovely transition.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, it was. It was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And you could just show and she even paid for everything.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, she even paid for some of it. You know,
I did try to pay for a lot of it,
but there were some things that she that she paid for.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
So nice.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It was very cool.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Well she's out of college, a working girl, right.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, yeah, she's got her her real job now. So
it does that just leads us right into our archive,
doesn't it, Yes, it does. We in twenty twenty, we
were talking about parenting through the ages, meaning the meaning
the kids ages and how you know, people like to
(13:59):
say like, oh, age two is so hard, or the
newborn stage is so hard, or teenagers are so hard,
Like it's all hard, is different, and it's all like
kind of rewarding in different ways too, because then you
get to the point where your kid can play in
the whole trip and yeah, you're just along for the ride.
(14:23):
So nice, that's pretty nice. But I am I am
still it's been you know, this will be the third
year since I had a child in high school and
I'm appreciating that, still still happy about it.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And you're so how much longer does your son have
in college?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Two more years? This year, this year, and one more.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, so does he come home? Will will he be
home for some part of the summer or actually it's not.
Summer is done now, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, he's been here and he just came back from
the trip, and he'll he'll have just less than a
week at home before he goes back.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
It's gonna have to be out buying pencils and school clothes,
right right, you don't have to be finishing the summer
packet and no writing the check to the university.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
But yeah, that's already done. Yeah, and I don't even
write the check. I go to the pay it online.
I go to the special bank account and say you
pay it.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Oh, there you go.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That's nice.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I used to pay for my kids community college online
with a credit card, and one time the credit card
it was like too much, the amount was too much
or something. There was something that the credit card company
didn't like about it, and so yeah, stopped it. And
I tried it again, and they stopped it again, and
I'm like, come on, right, I have a high enough
credit limit. Yeah, they thought somebody was scamming me. Right,
(16:06):
You're like, no, I want to say I want the
Please did you please let this go through. Come on, yeah,
you want the paints. It's exactly so eventually it did.
But I felt like, this is a college. You're going
to think I'm a deadbeat.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Now, right, Decline decline, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I mean I'm been in the post college thing for
a long time now. Whenever somebody asks me how old
my kids are, it just I mean, they're thirty two
and thirty five. My kids are middle aged.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's like they're not even they're not in school, they're
not just post school. They're just solidly in their thirties,
you know, and still living at home.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
But kind of takes you by surprise every time it.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Does, like they are really they're not, like we've said here,
they're not even your adults anymore. They're just plain old adults.
So you know, what is my role in their lives
in this case other than you know, landlord, and I
(17:16):
mean I don't my husband cooks, so I'm not their chef.
I'm their personal nagging device. Feeling good about yourself. Wind
this thing up and she'll take it down in the face.
But it's you know, I do have the stress of
(17:37):
jobs and worrying about jobs and stuff. And trying to
help one or the other of them get a job
or get a better job or something like that. But that's,
you know, that's a different level from day to day care.
Day to day care wise, they're pretty much on their
own right, you know. They can they can spend time alone.
I don't have to worry about it. I don't have
(17:59):
to think of things to do with them. I don't
have to play games with them. I don't have to
watch TV with them. They're just adults spending their time
the way they want to spend their time.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You don't have to go to IEP meetings that Oh gosh, yes,
I still have I ep PTSD, so that is a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
But I you know, it's like every now and then
I think of, you know, like when my daughter's having
trouble getting a job, should we go There's there's agencies
that help with this. We could herk her up with
some benefits and stuff. And I just every cell in
my body screams, no more biocracy, nor people telling me
they know more than I do about my own family.
(18:41):
Not so I haven't done it, and that may be bad,
it might be good to do it, And I just
I have such scarring right from ye both of us,
is that I just can't. I don't. I can't ask
for help anymore. Ever, they could theoretically do it themselves,
(19:03):
but they're not gonna.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
But so yeah, it's easy, you know, as with everything
easy in some ways hard and other ways. I mean,
even if my kids were at this age married and
had their own houses and their own kids and were
living their lives, I would still be worrying about them.
I know. My mother's still worried and obsessed about me
after I was on the other hand side of the country.
(19:28):
So you know, there's always a piece of you that
is occupied with worrying, yeah, and wondering if something should
be different than it is. There's like a little a
little Felicia were shod in the Gilded Age over one
(19:50):
shoulder saying, you sure that's the right thing? That's that
could be a bad idea, I don't think you should
do that, and little Bertha over the other sho are saying,
make them do what you want. Go on, it doesn't
matter if they're married, go make them do what you
want right, never really free, no no matter how old
(20:16):
they get.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Or how old we get.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yes, is that harder than on us or on them.
I'm not sure. My kids are pretty oblivious. I think
I hope, I hope they are.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, I don't know. But you'll be living the independent
and EMPTINSS life. You'll have to tell me what it's like.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yes, we'll be back to that shortly, at least in
terms of out of the house.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yes, even when my mine were in college, they were
home right. But I don't mind. I like it. I mean,
I really you don't think should I be looking at
group homes? Should I? I don't want it that, you know,
I want them here. We're fine, We're fine all together.
We don't get on each other's nerves that much.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And really, I mean everyone does at every age, that's right.
So that's yes, that's not a metric to somebody's going
to be.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Up in your living space getting on your nerves. It
might as well be family, right, not just some stranger.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
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