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August 7, 2025 27 mins
Here's what we're reading, recommending, and revisiting this week.

Catherine's library find is her response to Terri's challenge: Are there etiquette books for children? You better believe there are, with options from dinosaurs and SpongeBob to Clifford and American Girl; and of course, there's a book specifically about manners related to passing gas. Also mentioned: 365 Manners Kids Should Know and Mind Your Manners, B.B. Wolf.

Terri's random recommendation is Rhythm and Beat, a shop selling fun music-themed t-shirts including the Things We Did shirt and the My Brain Is Like 80% Song Lyrics shirt (see last week's roundup for a demonstration of how accurate that is). Mentioned: Ridiculously cheap Fountains of Wayne t-shirtsSummerfest.

In the archives, we checked in on an episode from 2018 called Pet Patrol. Mentioned: ChuckIt! ball launcher.

Next week's lineup: 
  • Lost S3 E11, "Enter 77," on Tuesday, August 12
  • The Gilded Age S3 E4, "Marriage Is a Gamble," on Wednesday, August 13
  • Weekly roundup: On vacation until August 28

Until then (and anytime you're in need), the archives are available.

This episode was recorded before a live studio audience ... of dogs.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
And I'm Catherine Hileco.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Every Thursday, we're bringing you a library find, a pick
from our archives, and a.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Parenting or pop culture tidbit or two.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Let's start with Catherine's library find of the week.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
So I did some homework for this week's Fine you
took my challenge from last week. I took your challenge
to find out about books about etiquette for children? Uh huh,
And I did find several options, some of them.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
According to our category.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
You know, I just looked them up on our library
card catalog or online catalog. And I do think some
of them are a bit of a stretch because we
have all of the how do Dinosaurs books considered as
books about manners? How did Dinosaurs go to school? How
did Dinosaurs eat their food? I agree that these dinosaur

(01:03):
books are a lot of fun and very very sweet,
but I'm not sure that we can really call them
books about etiquette. But there's many other options there as
a book for parents called three hundred and sixty five
Manners Kids Should Know and it comes with games, activities,

(01:23):
wow and ways.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
And what are these manners? And do we agree to
that kids should know them well.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
And the book came out in twenty eleven, so I
think we have to take this with a grain of
salt because things have changed as we have discussed. But
then we have lots more of the we have SpongeBob
just say please, So we're using beloved characters.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
I think some of these are going to be really.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
You know, sort of saccherin and like yes key, because
I've definitely seen I have seen you know, those go
through I'm looking for, you know, use your indoor voice
or but see that's you know, that sounds boring. But

(02:21):
then something like don't behave like you live in a cave.
There you go, you know, mind your manners, b be wolf,
you know, let's get a let's get a wolf involved.
Some some sound a lot more fun. Here's one that's
that's from our the folks, that American girl. It is

(02:43):
called knowing what to say, finding the words to fit
any situation. I feel like people of all ages could.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Definitely well what are some of the words? Though, again,
would we approve?

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Would we approve?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
It's a guide to communicating effectively in a variety of
situations common between and teen girls. What to say when
a friend talks about you behind your back, negotiating with parents.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
For a bigger allowance oh well.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
And making an appropriate apology that you can learn from
this book Clifford will teach you manners. So out here
there's a series, one called may I, one called excuse me,

(03:38):
I'm sorry please, and after you can you imagine like
a small child saying oh no, after you.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I can train children to hold the door open for
their elders.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
We work on this.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Sometimes my son will do it and it is so
I mean, from when he was younger, and it is
so cute. And now he doesn't and we're like, open
the door, come on, remember that.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Cute thing he did, and now he doesn't want to
do it.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
So somebody should write a book about the complicated, the
complicated dance of opening doors for other people. I mean,
I suppose there's some people who will be offended by it.
There's the instance where you open the door and then

(04:34):
a whole bunch of people come, and so you're just
standing there for like five minutes, at which point I
usually greet them with I'm Terry, your door man.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
And then there's this situation where there's a series of doors, yes,
so they open the door for you, and then you
go through it, and then there's another door, so you
have to open the door.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
For yes, exactly or vice versa is usually the way.
But mostly people seem these days to be fairly generous
and happy about having the door opened for them or
opening the door for somebody else. There's not a lot

(05:14):
of snootiness, but there's been times where it's been treacherous.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I just found on this list something that joins together
some of our previous previous interests. It's called gas Happens,
What to Do When it Happens to You?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Oh gosh, yeah, the whole book. There's a debate in
my family about a gas related debate about.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Do you acknowledge it or do you just It's.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
More like.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
In church, do you stifle or just let it be
a bodily function that everybody has. Everybody farts. I'm pretty
sure there's a children's book with that name.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
There's definitely one called Everybody Proof.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I feel there are places where one should stifle, whether
it's biologically healthy or not. But uh huh, there's disagreements
on that amongst my family members.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
To my horror, yes.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Anyway, well, that's interesting that you know, the children's book
writers are on it.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, they're definitely on it.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
And some are doing it in a fun and clever
way and or using beloved or familiar characters, and some
are just straight up like, be good. This is how
you know, like very not creative. Yeah, I would say,

(06:57):
but depending on what would work for your family and
your child else you have options.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, so I will have bad manners and just barge
in here with my random recommendation. Recently I did something
that I know better than to do, and I never
do it. I am very well disciplined, and for some
reason this day I just said, oh, and I did it,
and so far it seems to be working out. And

(07:24):
that thing is buying something off of Facebook. You know,
you see something on a Facebook rail, you click on it,
you buy it. I would always feel like, well, number one,
I am now going to be getting five million ads
for this same thing. And number two, who knows if
this is even a reputable company. This could just be
somebody who paid Facebook money for an ad. I just

(07:48):
generally don't trust Facebook ads. But there was a picture
of a T shirt. I liked the t shirt, I
clicked it, I bought the T shirt, and I am
happy to report that it came pretty quick.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
It's good quality. I like it. I immediately about another
one for a friend of mine.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
So the company is called Rhythm and Beat and they
make music related shirts and with very cute designs. And
I believe I've seen these for a really long time.
What moved me to just suddenly say, oh, yes, I'm
going to purchase this click I don't know. But the
one I got is called the Things We Did T

(08:28):
shirt and it says things we did build to this city,
shot the sheriff, things we didn't do, start the fire,
shoot the deputy. Things we want to do, break free,
know what love is. Things we will do, rock you
anything for love. Things we won't do that. So it's

(08:48):
really good. I feel like I've seen I don't know
if I've seen that text on something else or if
I've just been seeing this T shirt forever.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
But I just went a boy that thing.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
It's pretty cool and they have a lot of other
funny I think I may need to They have a
shirt that says my brain is like eighty percent song lyrics.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
I think I may need.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
To buy that one, because yes, yes it is. See
the Dead skunk in the middle of the Road conversation
from last week. So they have a lot of very
cute designs. I encourage you to go take a look
at them. It's at rhythmanbet dot com and it came

(09:30):
very quickly. They were very communicative about the arrival thereof
and immediately sent me various discounts for my next purchase,
which I used. And more so, they do follow the
Facebook merchant thing of being in your inbox every other minute,

(09:53):
but still they are amusingly written the missives they sent,
and I enjoyed the product, so it's better than the
you know, endless missives for uh, you know, uh incontinents underwear,
so right, cool cool like bras for all Yes, exactly, yeah,

(10:16):
rock and roll T shirts.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
I'll take it, come on, come on.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Right. Well, that's funny because I had not exactly the same,
but I had a T shirt purchase. I have a
T shirt purchase story. So my son and I went
to see Fountains of Wayne at Summerfest in Milwaukee on.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
The fourth of July.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
So, you know, this is a band that has not
played together for over a decade, lost a prominence. An
important member of the band died from COVID and so.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
But they they.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Are apparently, like we didn't know until we look this up,
but they are doing i think four shows in twenty
twenty five, like a small number, and we got to
go see them, which was amazing. And so while we're
at the concert, we're looking, you know, because this is Summerfest,

(11:23):
which is like a huge music festival that's in Milwaukee
every summer, and so tons and tons of bands and
they have like a special merch table that is set
up along at the side of the each stage and
they just swap out, you know, Okay, now it's this

(11:44):
band's stuff. Now it's that band stuff. And so we
kept looking for fountains of Wayne goodies at this merch
tent and then there never was, you know, they didn't
have any.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
And then when I saw like, oh, well they're only
performing four.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Times, maybe they didn't. Yeah, you know, but these fans were,
you know, into it, like they would have sold some.
So anyway, I come home the next day, I'm like, well,
let me see what they have online. They must have
some T shirts. Look, I find their website, I find
their store. Every T shirt. I'm not kidding you, every

(12:25):
T shirt was seven dollars.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
So I'm like, well, obviously I need one of these.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Then you share the earl fountains of Wayne T shirt.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Well, then I looked at the sizes and for the
women's shirts, because I really I don't like men's cut
T shirts. The women's shirts were baby dolls, like early nineties,
like Harry cropped, and.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
So are these things left over from well the.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Other question like seven dollars did you just like throw
this page up in you know, nineteen ninety eight and
forget about it?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
These shirts once worn by Stacy and her mom.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Exactly, So, so I did buy one. I'm like, I'm
just gonna go for it. I bought an baby doll
extra large because I was like, that's I got it.
I hope that that'll fit me and uh and then
I you know, I should have used like a you know,

(13:36):
a throwaway credit card. No, but anyway, I did it.
And then I got the confirmation like, okay, we got
your order, we'll send you a we'll send you another
message when we ship it. And then nothing happened. Oh no,
two weeks and I was like, yeah, well, you know,

(13:59):
does that anyone ever even checked this.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Mailbox like, yeah, what is this?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Is this online store? But then then after after you know,
just about two weeks, I got the email like I
it's shipping and oh wow, and it arrived and it
is indeed small, but it's super cute and I'm very
excited that that I found it. When I got it,

(14:26):
that is so cool. Yes, like.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Two fond Fountains of Wayne memories are that we live
not far from the actual Fountains of Wayne that they
are named after, and we used to drive by it
all the time, so that always made me laugh. And
also at the time that Stacy's Mom came out, my
daughter was in band with a girl named Stacy and
they would like it's mom was getting up to speak

(14:53):
at something.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
They would play Stacy's Mom.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yes, and we used to drive by it all the
time too.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Yeah, it's just so it's not there anymore. It's gone.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
No, I know it's gone, but yeah it was. It
was a super fun concert. And I'm excited about my
tiny T shirt.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, that is so cool.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I am like of an age now where I no
longer wish the baby doll T shirts, even in the
largest size. I want something big and roomy that will
completely cover me down to the upper leg area. Yeah,

(15:35):
and so I would absolutely buy a seven dollars fountains
Wen T shirt and an extra large size to get that.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
N it might have to be an extra large men's.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, no, absolutely extra large men's. I'm I'm a four
foot ten inch woman, but that's my jam now, is
the extra large men's because I want no part of
my midsection to be anywhere visible right, or constraint in
anything or constricted in any way, but mostly wish to cover.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yes, yeah, it's uh, it's sense. So now that's that's.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Given me license to buy new T shirts because well
I have all I have, like, you know, fifty T shirts,
but they're short. I don't wear short T shirts anymore.
I wear short, tight T shirts anymore. I wear shirts
that could double his a dress is what I'm looking for.
So and I found one on Rhythm and Beat and
we'll probably order more from them. So and possibly a

(16:29):
Fountains of Waine shirts.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
So yes, I will put the I will put the
uh you for all your you know, all your Fountains
of Wain needs.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yes, absolutely, as.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Long as you as long as you're okay with small.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, that is so fun. I haven't been to a
concert in such a long time. Yeah, it was that
would be fun. Well, what do we have from the
archive this week? What does it have anything to do
with oversized T shirts or classic rock well rock bands

(17:06):
from our younger years.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
No, I'm afraid it doesn't, but it is about pets.
We decided to flash back to a speed round called
Pet Patrol when we were talking. This was the summer
that I had a hedgehog.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
So yeah, we we had a class hedgehog for one
summer and it was it was entertaining, you know, it
was cleaning the cage was not fun.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
That was the main yeah, drawback to that. But he
was kind of a cute little guy. I gotta say not.
I would not want to, you know, have my own hedgehog,
but it was it was a nice summer.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah, event, So, do you have any extra pets at
the moment?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
No, just the the two usuals once.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Our studio audience.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yes, I did have a conversation the other day. I
was in the backyard with the dogs and the system
is that the the young dog, you know, will play
fetch and loves to play fetch, and you know, we
have one of those like ball chucking things, which is

(18:35):
important because number one, otherwise I can't throw it very far.
But number two is because you can pick up the
slobbery ball, yes, chucker thing, so you don't have to
touch it. So that's very important.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
I see those at the dog park a lot because
you know, you don't want to touch any bowl that's there.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
That is the main advantage of that item. But anyway,
I was, and so the system is you throw, you
throw the ball for the for Winny, our young speedy dog,
and then the old other dog will just bark in protest,
like why are you playing with me? I need you know.

(19:18):
But if you try to play with her, she can't. Yeah,
So so you just have to feed her a steady
stream of small items, yeah, just to keep her quiet.
And so I'm outside doing that with the two of them,
and my neighbor's grandchildren. A couple of the very pretty

(19:41):
young grandchildren are out in their backyard and they're watching
all this and asking questions about the dogs, and then
they find and at some point I had to stop
and put the loud older one inside because she just
I ran out of I ran out of the t

(20:03):
R E A T S that was it. But the
best question I got from these two little girls was
which one is a better listener?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Somebody's been reading those etique books to these children.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
I was.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I just thought that was hilarious. My god, you guys,
I don't And I had to think about it for
a while, like I couldn't quite decide what my what
my answer was to that question I did. I did
end up saying, I think it might be the new dog. Yeah,
despite all of her issues, she's you know, we've kind

(20:42):
of given up on the older one trying to teach
her anything or get her to do anything.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
So well, they did say better, they didn't think good.
So yes, that is true. Yeah, it sounds like it's
a low bar, yes.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
When you're talking relatively speaking. So, so, what's going on
with Ooh?

Speaker 3 (21:05):
We have not been going to the dog park enough,
which is what's going on. I miss it. I like
to think our dog misses it, but it's been.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Too hot and just haven't had the opportunity have had,
you know, a nice day comes along. We've got other
things to do, but I miss it. I miss seeing
all the dogs, and our dog Leyla just has been
laying around the house. It's been we are air As

(21:34):
I mentioned in a previous episode, our air conditioning has
been out, so she's been staying down in my daughter's apartment,
which does have an air conditioner a wall unit, so
we don't see.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Her that much.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
But the other day we had to be down in
my daughter's apartment because we're having some trouble with her
refrigerator and we were trying to defrost the freezer and
see if that would help. So my husband and I
snuck down there late at night just to see if
it was leaking or doing anything, and the dog was
on the couch on her back, completely splayed out, sound asleep.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
So she rests well.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yes, did not budge the whole time we were there.
It was just having some good dream. I don't know,
maybe she was on an island and you know, running
around with a skillet alarm in her mouth. But so
there hasn't really been we just she's just been laying
around the house, mostly going for walks and really nothing.

(22:34):
We do have a groundhog family squatting in our backyard
and they are quite pleased with themselves, and the dog
has no interest in them whatsoever, unlike you're Unlike our
last dog, my girl would have given them some you know,
given them some serious thoughts about moving, but Wayla just

(22:56):
completely ignores them, and they're like, fine, then this is
our this is our land right here, right, they are
declaring squatter's rights and uh, just gonna hang. So every
now and then we see them sunning themselves, or there's
a whole family of them.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
As long as they don't as long as they don't
bother my dog, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Right, And they stay at the other end of the
end of the yard.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
It's not like you have a vegetable garden there.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
No, we do not disturbing.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah, I don't want them pooping on my patio or anything.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
But if they stay in their little hole.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
They have a little exit hole to the high school
on the other side of the fence. But it is
a little odd sometimes to just look out the window
and see somebody owning your backyard. And we have the
bunny that kind of owns our front yard.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
So that's right.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
It gives us a pleasant nod as we go into
the house. So we're just all we're just all tenants here. Yeah,
it's their world. Yeah, but I had to my daughter's
been looking for work, as I think I've discussed here before,
and we got this idea that she could work at

(24:10):
one of these like pet hotels or doggy daycares because
she likes dogs and she would play with dogs.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
How hard is it to play with dogs?

Speaker 1 (24:17):
You know? And she went to interview at this place
and we rehearsed questions about animals, when you do with
your dog, all this stuff, and they asked her I
think their first question was something like, if you were
a CEO, what would you ban?

Speaker 3 (24:32):
And this has to do with picking up dog poop?

Speaker 1 (24:35):
How Yeah, So it was like questions from some bs,
here's how you interview, guide online or in a book,
nothing to do with the business. So that did not
go well. So she's still looking at more of those businesses.
But that one did not work out. And it's probably

(24:56):
just as well because clearly they don't know how to hire.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
But oh, that's very crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
I just there's a whole I know, there's a whole
industry teaching people how to interview, and it's I can't
imagine it really gets good people.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Right, and like it's just it's like we say about
parenting advice. Yes, it's it doesn't apply in the situation.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, I mean, and not that she would have done
any better if the interview questions were like, Okay, so
a dog does this thing, what do you do? I
don't know that she would have had the right answer,
but at least it would have been ample pos.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Right. So yeah, yeah, it's just not it's not necessary.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
So she will not be on ped patrol at least
for the time being, right until she gets a place
that will ask her questions.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
She knows what the heck.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
They're talking about, right, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
So before we dive out of here, we just want
to mention that for the next couple of weeks are
Weekly Round Up.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Is going on vacation.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
We're not gonna stop our TV watches because we have
a million and a half episodes of Lost left, and
also we're already two behind on the Gilded Age. Twitter
is spoiling for it for me daily, so we're gonna
keep We're gonna just kind of record ahead on the
TV shows and keep those going, but the Weekly Roundup
won to take a little break, So you'll have new

(26:24):
episodes Tuesdays and Wednesdays Thursday go into well, I'll put
some links up on social media for archive episodes. Anyway,
we have ample things for you to listen to. That's
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(26:44):
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