February 21, 2025 • 37 mins
In this episode we talk to Ben Reaves, Head Football Coach at Milton (GA). Coach Reaves' team won the 5A State Championship in Georgia this year and finished #2 in most national polls.
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Speaker 3 (03:56):
We have on Ben Reeves, who is the head coach
at Milton High School here in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, the public school national champs coach Reeves team at
Milton finished second in nearly every national poll behind Modern
Day in California, which is private school. So because we're
in Georgia and they're from Georgia, we'll deem them the
public school national champions. Had a great team last year,
kind of upset Walton to win the state championship last year.
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This year, no upsets. Definitely the number one team all season.
Everybody knew they were good, a ton of good players.
You know, I'm curious talk to coach about what was different,
and you know, hear a little bit about their program.
They're really moving toward a national brand, you know, high school,
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which is just very different. There's different levels of football,
you know, and I'm not talking about three A, four A, five.
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A six A.
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There's obviously that, but there's different levels of what it's about,
and and Milton is moving into that.
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You know.
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joined this time by the head coach of the public
school National champions also the Georgia five A state champs.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Milton Eagles coach Ben Reeves, thanks for joining.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Me coch Yes, sir, thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Coach man. What a great season. You know what stood
out to me.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
What I want to ask you about first is what
was different about this season. You've been on three state
championship teams. Two is a head coach now, But I
thought the first two times you were part of the
team that won it, Milton, and you guys had to
really earn it through the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You're probably the underdog. You're a team people probably counted out.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You got better throughout the playoffs, and then you beat
the team that maybe people didn't think you were going
to beat the state championship game. This year, that wasn't
really the case, right, It was a little bit different.
You were the front runners coming in, people expected you
to win. You know you did win.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
What made it different?
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Yeah, I mean, just like what you alluded to.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
You know, those first two state championships, we definitely were
a dark horse, so to speak, and each one of
those years dropped a couple of games early on, so
people kind of rote us off, but still knew that
we had a good team and just had to get them,
you know, playing well and believing at the end of
the season whenever it matters the most. And fast forward
to this past year walking out of the Bens, you know,
from that twenty three state championship and people found out
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we were returning eighteen of those guys. It's kind of when,
you know, we became the favorite, and you know, we
talked about just having that bullseye on our chest all
year long, and so it was a different animal for us,
you know, and you know, our biggest, our big goal
or one of them, was just not to be that
team that gets beat by eighteen Milton or twenty three Milton,
you know, because those two years we snuck up and
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took a state title away from programs that felt like,
you know, they were the best team in the state,
and we found a way to win. So our goal
was just not to let the roles be reversed on
us this season.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, and that's exactly what you did, coach, And my
follow up too, that was exactly that that it's not
near as easy as somebody might think that hadn't coached
a lot to just do that, because you got everybody
back doesn't mean you're going to win.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I know Buford had a team for four years ago.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
It was fantastic beating the second round one of the
better teams I'd seen in the regular season. You reference
the teams you guys have beaten in the state championship,
and so it's not a fourgone conclusion or a given
that your team's going to win because you have a
good team coming back.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And so I would.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Say there was some challenges there that are even maybe
harder in their own right than when you're able to
build that camaraderie about everybody counting you out right or
not giving you a chance. You couldn't say stuff like that,
but I was impressed with your ability to rally the
team and make it us against them kind of. So
give me some Maybe somebody that's never been in your
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exact position wants to know how you were able to
do that. How you rally a team that does know
they're good, they know they're better than most of the
teams are playing, but they're playing with a little bit
of a chip on their shoulder.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
What are some of the things you can do to
get that?
Speaker 7 (09:21):
Yeah, I mean, for one, I don't want to discount
just the kids that we had.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
You know, they were just stand up kids.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
You know, at Milton, we've created a culture of winning
and it hurts. It hurts our kids to lose, you know.
So first and foremost, we had kids that just were
winners and wanted to continue to do that. We had
kids that, you know, their brothers played for this program,
their brothers played for me.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
I watched these kids.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
Growing up in feeder football, and it still means a
lot to them to wear those wings. It still means
a lot to them to elevate the program as much
as possible. So that played a huge role in our
success for sure, on top of just a very experienced
and incredible coaching staff. So I want to make sure
that those groups get the the you know, recognition they
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deserve as well. And then just with the high level team,
you got to find out what motivates them. You know,
we were lucky enough to where we started out in
the top ten nationally, which you got to do if
you want to have a shot at a national title run.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
So the first thing that I threw out.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
At our guys was, look, you have the ability to
achieve something that you know, I personally didn't dream of
whenever I first came to Milton, you know.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
A true national title run. You know.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
So I gave them something new and fresh. I gave
them a goal to shoot for that they had not achieved,
and I think that that paid dividends for us and
also just with high level guys, you know, our minded them.
You know, you may not need to win another state title.
You know, what you do at Milton, this this upcoming
year may not mean anything to you in the long terms,
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but all you guys are going to go to high
level schools.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
You know, nine of you are going to be early enrollees.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
If you just take a year off, if you don't
compete for a year, if you don't get better every
single day at practice for an entire year, you're going
to show up to the universities and not be ready
to go.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
You know.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
So I made sure to give the team something that
we could shoot for as a whole, and then I
made sure to give those high level guys that were
returning something that they could work towards individually that you know, collectively,
we just all It forced all of us to try
to get better each and every day and ended up,
you know, with us playing our best football because of it.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Because what a great answer, by the way, I mean,
because everybody listening to this is not going to compete
for the national or the state championship, right, but everybody
can have that collective goal and everybody can take those
high and everybody's got some good players on their team,
whoever your best guys are, and find ways to motivate them.
I think that's a great way to look at that
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that somebody can carry from this.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Obviously, everybody wants to be just like you.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
They want to win the state championship, but everybody can,
but they can do those things.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
And your job as a coach get your teams as
good as it can be. Right for this.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Year, you guys as good as you could be was
public school national champions and you guys did that.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You should be proud of that.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I was really impressed with the play, and I typically
I'm gonna talk about your coaching staff too, but first
I want to talk about the players. I don't I
don't typically highlight a lot of players, not because I
don't want to, but it's just hard to do. And
I didn't get to see him all play. It's not
college football and all that, But I saw you got
and this quarterback on your team, Luke Nickel. Yeah, I
thought he was as good of a quarterback as I
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ever saw. And I understand my hyperbole there, like I
understand what I'm saying when I say that, but I
didn't know that he got the exact same.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Love.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Maybe. I mean everybody knew he was good, yep.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
But you know I was here for Trevor Lawrence and
Deshaun Watson and obviously some of the guys even in
the last couple of years. And I do think for
a high school ball player, I don't know that he
was any worse than those guys. So tell me a
little bit about him, and maybe what are people missing
that aren't seeing that exact correlation.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Yeah, I know he's one.
Speaker 7 (12:59):
And you know, as as people know about me, even
to a fault, you know, I'm always gonna fight for
fight for my guys. You know, I ask them to
go out and fight for me on the field, so
I'll fight for them on whatever platforms I can. To
a fault sometimes and you know I just can't.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Think it's one of the reasons you guys are winning.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Really, Yeah, there's a lot of reasons, but one of
them is, yeah, you embraced that role, so go ahead.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Do it, yes sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
And you know, I think the big thing with with
Luke in general is, for one, he didn't really grow
up doing the camp circuit, so he wasn't a camp kid.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
He wasn't a seven on seven kid until late And
a lot of the guys that came in with hype
and kept the hype, you know, they they were true
camp kids. They started camping at sixth grade, seventh grade,
eighth grade. Uh. You know, Luke was busy doing other
things even in high school, and instead of going to camps,
Luke was just out you know, throwing, throwing with his
buddies on the field, getting better with our guys. So
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in a way, I feel like that hurt him a
little bit. But also he didn't care about that. You know,
that's not something that them. It's something that gave him
a chip to wear on his shoulder, to go out
and prove everybody wrong.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
And you know he was able to do that.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
And I think just that mindset of I'm not worried
about all the glitz and the glamour.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
I'm just worried about my team.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
I'm worried about making myself the best that I can
possibly make it.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
And then just his blue collar ness.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
I think that's just a quality of a quarterback that
I know we love to have in Milton.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
We've always had.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
That.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
I think is the true X factor that people need
to look at and recruiting of. You know, all right,
of course, the kid's got to be able to get.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Out there and throw it on time and look good
doing all that like we do at the camps. But
is he a blue collar kid? Is he? Is he
a winner? It really get dirty, you know.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
I go back to when I was submitting paperwork for
Luke to go out to a lead eleven.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
They said, tell me the best story.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
About Luke, And I said, watching this kid as a
freshman playing a freshman football game every single play at
quarterback and then flip over and put his hand in
the turf and play defensive end every single play. You know,
he just he's tough, he's hard.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Nos.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
He just finds a way to win, and a team
rallies around that. And you pair that with his elite
talent and that that's what you get, you know. And
I think as people saw him play his junior year.
He opened a lot of eyes. Quarterback recruiting is funny, man,
it happens. It happens pretty early, you know. So it's
funny within states, you know, there's there's universities that don't
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want to make local high schools mad, and there's just
a lot that goes into it. But he's as good
as it gets in my opinion, and just a great,
great kid, great human, hard worker. He'll be successful, very
very humble, comes from a good family and athletics family.
So you know, he's one that I think we'll see
playing on Sunday. He's in the future.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, I agree, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And the difference between me and you is I don't
even know him, you know, I don't I don't have
to take up for you, and I normally don't talk
about players for this exact reason. I don't like talking
about something I don't really know a lot about, right,
But I do believe from my outside point of view
that he's one of the guys that's going to play
early and play well. I think he'll be very successful
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the next level because of what you guys did with him.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
But I also thought.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Maybe playing with so many good players and such a
good team in some ways hurts you.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I think people just expect you to throw touchdowns every
series and expect you to square every series, and that's
not and they did, but he did, by the way,
but it becomes like the expectation instead of I don't
know that they had those exact same expectations on even
some of the guys I named.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Everybody knew it was great.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
The truth.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
Sorry to cut you off, you know the truth is
too And you triggered my mind that a lot of
our guys they don't get the recognition, like I said,
I think they deserve because you know, we're forcunate to
get up on some teams. And I still believe in
playing the game the right way, not showing not showing
anybody up and giving our backups, you know, reps, and
building depth that way. So I think we counted it
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up this past season, just when you add up total
quarters that Luke didn't play along with some of our
other starters, or we were just running clock out, you know,
intentionally handing the ball off, I think we came up
with five to six football games worth of quarters he
didn't even play in, so if you look at all
of his stats, and like I said, this is universal
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for a lot of our guys last year, and you
give them five to six more games worth of stats,
their numbers are astronomical.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
And I don't know, you know, I don't know the
true answer to that, because, like I said, you want
to play the game the right way. You want to
keep your guys healthy.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
You don't want any lake courts, injuries, any any do
mile situations you want to build, I.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Would apologize for none of that.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Coach.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Look, yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Gold win state championship, you did that, right, But if
you're just asking why did somebody get recruited more than
somebody else or less than somebody else, some of that
stuff can factor in no doubt, you guys can't make
decisions based on that, right, Yep. Absolutely, And look, Luke
didn't get slighted in that way. He's going to versus Miami,
He's going to bessful. I mean, he's not, you know,
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I just I just wanted to highlight for a minute.
You didn't pay me to say that. I just thought
he was one of the better kids I'd seen. And
I mean I was at the game in person in
the state championship game. It's really impressed with just how
to conduct himselves from the throws. I mean, it's just
really good. And I know lax and huge. Defense was
phenomenal by the way, and they looked, you know, and
sometimes made them look like a JVT. And I thought
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the key moment of the season I'm gonna ask you about.
They'll only ask you about one moment because another time
I watch you guys plays against Lee County. I only
got to watch it a few times. But you're undefeated,
you're number two or three in the nation. Everybody thinks
you're the greatest. Everybody's telling everybody in your team they're
the greatest. All the kids at school are probably telling
they're the greatest. You go play Lee County. You really
dominate the first quarter and a half or so, but
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for whatever reason, it's twenty one to twenty one, like
they had a few nice plays, and so you look
up in the scores tap at that moment, a team
like yours will go one in two ways, like it'll
just because you hadn't had a lot of those moments
in the season. You just kind of get tight, for
lack of a better word, and you'll make those errors
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that we talked about, some teams have made that were
the best team in the state just didn't win it. Yep,
and you didn't. The opposite was it looked like it
was twenty one to twenty one if I remember right.
I shouldn't do my homework and know this, but I
want to say it was like forty nine to twenty
one like that. I mean, you guys really turned it
on in a moment when ever, because Lee County was
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really good, so that would have been a moment where
you could look up and say, dang this, this might
really be happening to us.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And I didn't see any of that.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So talk to me about that specific moment and when
you said, hey, we got this.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
I mean there's three factors. I think.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
For one, it always helps, you know, just returning a
veteran team and having guys with experience that causes guys
to flinch less. I think secondly, just knowing, you know,
we played the toughest non A region schedule we possibly can.
You know, we were in a tight game with Buford,
we were in a tight game with American Heritage. So
I put our guys and situations to where they've been
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in tight games before with some of the best in
the country, and the goal was through those games just
to learn the lesson of keep battling for four quarters.
You know it's going to be a four quarter fight
and then third just kind of the mantra of the season,
but you know, finding those motivational factors that would keep
them going. The first one was it was twenty one
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to twenty one due to.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Some self inflicted wounds.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
You know, we could have played a lot cleaner and
it would not have been that close. But you know,
my message to the guys all week, and that coin
toss has been so huge for us in those late
round playoff games. But I could look those seniors in
the eye and I could tell them that, with no doubt,
this is the last time you will ever play a
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football game in this stadium, in front of your home,
in front of your crowd, in front of your parents,
in front of your friends. How you can't waste to play.
So no matter what happens in this game, you know,
highs lows, good, bad, you cannot waste a single play.
Every play. You've got to fight with everything that you
have because this will be the game that you will
remember for the rest of your lives of how you
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went out on your home stadium and I just preached
out all week long. The coaches preached it with me,
and our kids went out there and they made it personal.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
You know.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
They they they were only going to walk off that
field as winners, you know, their lifetime ever being on
that turf. And I think that, you know, just walking
out there on that mindset, just just quitting or tanking
was never a thought that even came into their minds.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
But you guys did it. Coach.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
It was a great It was a great season. I
want to ask you two more questions. I'll let you go,
and this one was going to be, like you, you
know a lot of people listening to this have not
been in your exact situation, right, Yeah, So tell me
a little bit about you, Like tell I know you
played and all that, but you start coaching. Tell me
where you're coaching, tell me who you work with, and
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how you get to Milton.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
He can be brief, but I want people. I think
a lot of people can relate to that story.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Is why I'm an for sure.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
You know, I h a preferred walk on at Georgia
got hurt. Did a student assistant ship there for a year,
and that was long enough for me to know I
didn't want to touch college football.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
You know. I just like life and balance and family
too much.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
So started out at a small school in South Georgia, Barrion
County with Ryan Branch and you know, several guys from
that staff are head coaches now, Shaun Calhoun, Mario Drayton
back up in Fulton County, Clifford fed just got on
with college. It was. It was a good staff, but
for a twenty two year old, one stop like town.
After leaving Athon, Georgia wasn't quite what what I had
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had envisioned. So I packed up and moved down to Sarasota, Florida.
Just always wanted to live at the beach and coach
there for two years, which is good for me, just
to get away on my own and kind of grow
up as a man, you know, and have to depend
on myself for some things. And you know, I came
into this game with a lot of connections just through
my dad, and it got to meet a lot of
coaches through him and his thirty year plus career and
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one of the coaches, coach Kevin Reach, you know, just
taken over as the head coach at Colintil High School,
and Shaun Calhoun happened to be the offensive coordinator who
I had already worked with, and they called me and
convinced me to come back up to Gwinette County. So
I was there for six years and was just ready
to take, you know, take the next step and you know,
call plays and go to the offensive coordinator route. And
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that's when I leaked up with with Adam Klack. And
you know, he he he believed in me, which I'll
always be appreciative for, and you know I believed in
his vision and where he wanted to take the program,
and you know, he built it.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
You know, it happened.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
And you know I was lucky enough to not have
to build anything from the ground up. You know, I
took over a really good program, a really good product,
you know, one that I helped build. But I can't
take all the credit for. And you know, my my goal,
my loyalty is just to make sure that I always
do that justice. You know, all the people that put
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in the work before me, and all the people that
you know laid that groundwork.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
I try to show up every day and just make
sure I.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Don't let them down and continue to elevate the program
as much as I can.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I asked you that because there's a lot of guys,
there might be some guys listening burying, you know right now,
there might be some listening in Sarasota, Florida, yep. That
they may not have thought they could relate with you
because they don't have a national champion tender team right now.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
As a head coach, you didn't either at one point.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
You know, you didn't either, and you wouldn't have one
if you didn't believe in yourself and you didn't keep
trying to get better.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And that's what they gotta do. Go ahead, coach.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Yeah, And that's that's the thing too, you know, like
I tell some of my coaches right now as there
you know.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Weigh and decisions in their career.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
As the truth is, when I when I took the
OC job at Milton, that school won three playoff games
going back to nineteen fifty.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
So, you know, people see Milton.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
What it is now and think, man, you know you
had a great offensive coordinator job that led to a
great head coaching job. It wasn't necessarily a great offensive
coordinator job. You know, I went to a school that
was not winning, but I took a chance. And you know,
just through experiences with my dad and being some different
places myself, Well, if I got to kind of put
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together a list of what I thought was important and
in a good job and a job that I could
go in on and believe on and believe in and
Milton check those boxes.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
You know.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
So as crazy as it seems now looking at where
we're at, I had to take a leap of faiths
uh for my career and I had to believe in
a place and help build it up. So, you know,
if that's my biggest piece of advice if you if
you're if you're a coach and you're looking you know,
to take a jump in your career. You can't just
wait on the picture perfect, the picture perfect job. You know,
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you got to go somewhere that you believe in, that
has the resources and the thought process that you have,
and you got to make it the perfect job.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, and give with some good people, because you named
a lot of good people in there, and I know
sometimes we just get lucky on that. You just kind
of go somewhere and there's some good people there and
you learn I was fortunate like that.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So, but get around some good people. Advice I can
tell you.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
So, coach, let's talk about some good people because I
know someone personally good dudes on that coaching staff, and
I do want to My last question is gonna be
about them.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
So tell me a little bit.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
About these coaches. I'm not gonna ask you any specific question.
I just want you to give him a shout out.
I was really impressed with the coaching staff. Uh. There,
you did have some good players, but I thought they
were well coached too, And I thought you executed well.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I thought it was good, especially.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Stevie Conna plays that thought was great touch, your defense
flew to the ball. I mean, I was really impressed
with special teams, what you guys do. So brag on
those guys. Give them a little shout out.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
Yeah, I mean, we'd have to do a whole other
podcast for me to truly brag them my whole staff,
because all those guys are are elite, and I'm thankful
they're coming back.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
To work with me another year, all of them. But
you know, Stevie, he's just so good at what he does.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
And you know, I only coach I coached Lucas freshman year,
but Stevie's the one that really raised him and brought
him up and turned him into a true quarterback. And
Stevie also does so much just with recruiting. I mean,
he spends hours and hours and hours a day just
fighting for our kids to get them offers. And you know,
somebody that could east go be a head coach somewhere,
and I'm thankful that he.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Works for me and he takes a lot of off
of my plate.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
And you know, David Willingham, the defensive coordinator, it's hard
not to love that guy. He just coaches with passion
every day. You know, the coaches phil it, the kids
feel it, Everything means something to him. He's just such
a winner, but also just such a good man and
good human for.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Our kids to be around. And he's obviously been calling.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
Defense for a long time, so there's not really anything
that you can show him that he's not gonna at
least have a solid plan for. And then special teams
coordinator Vinnie Silvestri. You know, he's he's an offensive guy
by trade, so he really buys into my overall philosophy
of using special teams as a weapon and trying to
steal possessions.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
And you know, we'll run eight to ten fake punts
per year.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
And Vinnie does a great job of scheming things up
and making the other team just you know, prepare for something,
just like if there was an offense or defense out
on the field, and you know, making sure that our
guys buy into, Hey, this isn't just something you got
a job out here and do because it's part of
the rules. This is something that we're gonna try to
change the game with. So you know, those three guys, man,
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they're great coaches, great human beings.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
You know, all guys.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
I dropped my kids off at their house right now,
you know, and let them stay just because I think
the highly of them, and you know, those are the
kind of people. And then that I want, you know,
our kids to be around. And that's one of the
things I look for when hiring the staff.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Couse, you got some good ones, man.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I know, we give out some awards, but we got
to give all of them, two of them.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
It doesn't just work like that. But but I thought
the whole lot was well coached.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
And sometimes the best teams maybe they do have some
good coaches, maybe they don't you know. But I thought
you guys were a good marriage of good players mixed
in with some really good coaches, you know, And so
that's that's why you're becoming a national brand. You really
got to have both, and you guys have it. So
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I mean, I don't want to bore you or take
everybody's time, but we'll have to do another one later
where we talk about the next step for you, because
I think the.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Next step not in winning, because you've already got.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
The pinnacle of that, but just in that that national brand,
which is really a whole other type of football now
that I think you guys are entering into. And so
that's exciting and challenging, and I'm really excited to follow
you guys and see what.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You can do. I really am. So you know, I'm
a fan.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
So I'm here if you If I can ever help you,
I don't know how I can, but I'm here.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
So yeah, I'll definitely usually as a resource as needed.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Obviously a great one, and.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I just know that I wish that I had a
coach of Milton and up with you two damn guys
like Jesus like man. That is a great setup. A
lot of support from guys. And there some players there,
that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I mean I got the YouTube guys.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
They did do a good.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Job of a scheme. They really had good players. I mean,
they got a target on their back. It's it is
a different you know. I love doing this because we
talked to so many different types of programs, right and
I take pride in what we do with the awards,
what we do on the podcast with recognizing people whose
teams went five and five and I thought they did
some of the best jobs in the state. But you
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can't always just count that when you go undefeated and
winn the state championship.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
That's something too.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I mean, so I like talking to all of them,
you know, and it's just such a different national brand
that they're building at Milton, and so you'll.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Be curious to see where that goes.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Because what I didn't ask coach about, but I wouldn't
have minded to if we have more time, was you know,
there was a time when like Marietta was kind of
that team five or six years ago and Collins Hill
with you know, Travis Hunter, and I mean these are
recent history, you know, like a team that really dominated
and that didn't last forever. Right, So I don't know
(30:56):
that there's always this this idea that it's just gonna
last forever, you know, where they're just gonna always be
good now because they have this that that's very short sighted,
and so it'll be curious to see if that national
trajectory continues up for them, right. And I do love
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their quarterback, by the way, But that quarterback at Milton,
I love that guy.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
So I thought he was awesome. So it's easy to hate.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
On the team at times when they're really good. That
dude was awesome. That was That was a fun game
to watch. I watched that one too, that's the title game.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, he was a player now.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Man at Langston Hughes defense was giving up like eleven
twelve points a game and a tougher reagent. I mean,
really really good, and I mean they just he just
picked him apart and I mean that was really good.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
So it's the time everybody's been waiting for Flat. We
got at least one good hip Flat, which we hadn't
had in a long time, no shit. So this is
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(32:13):
the new hip. We've already discussed that. I can't even
describe that. I can't imagine how good it's gonna be
when I have two new hips. Literally, Kelly Flatbear watch out,
No shit, she better watch out. Let's just say that,
nothing much can top the job that Brandon Thomas, Jordan
Shaw and their assistant did over time with. Watching a
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Ruby's team, the Pickings Dragonettes win the region championship this
past Saturday was a.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Pretty cool thing to be a part of.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And I'm sure a lot of people that listen to
this have been part of a lot of region championships.
Me and myself personally have not been a part of
a lot of them. So it's pretty cool watching my
daughter be a part of that, even as a kid
who doesn't play much. So it was really neat to
see all that and a lot of fun. Super proud
of those guys for that. What's the Pickens girls record?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
What's that record?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Right now? They are as we record this in two,
I think twenty six and two The boys are twenty
seventy one.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
They don't know if you do your math over Inverside County,
but that is a grand total of fifty three and
three maybe for ball, and when you think about, you know,
the North Georgia Mountains of Pickens County, you may not
think of fifty three and three in basketball. So let's
just there's some music played it song. But hey, great
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season Bob Martin boys coach of Pickens and a great
job Jordan Shaw girls coaching. And Brandon Thomas, our athlete director,
doesn't really have done a great job. And more than anything, Chad, honestly,
I've been impressed with what our athletic department has done
with collectively and pulling for each other. And you know,
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got wrestlers and they got the football coaches helping and
you know like that part. They've just the principal and
ad all, I'm doing a great job in the environment
that creates through the students and all those things, which
I know we tell a lot of jokes on here,
but that should be what you're trying to accomplish. So
if I was an athletic director, I would, you know,
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I would seek out what they're doing at Brandon Thomas.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
If you don't know who he is, get to know
what me doing.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
A good job?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Been ave been on the podcast before, right, I mean,
oh yeah, yeah, you never know.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
You're a friend of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Definitely, definitely a friend of the podcast. A friend of
the podcast. Okay, I guess that could catch on.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
It's likely to be viral.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Michael, you got any grievances or anything to add? You
bring that same passion post one hip for flat yep. See,
that's why he's the best color man.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
What's the uker?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Didn't you care pass away recently?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
He did?
Speaker 3 (35:11):
We should talk about that.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
We should have talked about that.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I watched Major League last night.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Really movie that is such a good movie.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
If it's on, I'm watching it.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
So there's like twenty good parts to Major League at
least at least at least. But I do think my
favorite one is when Bob Baker's talking and he's reading
the box score and it's at the bad time and
you know, the Indians had no runs, one hit whatever
one We hit one.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
GD can't say that, And.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Then like you can't, he said, well, don't worry.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Nobody's listening. That's how I feel about this podcast most
that's that.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I can't tell you, guys how many times that line
has resonated with me. When Chad said something like what
he said about Kelly Flatt, and then he says, maybe
we should edit that out, and I think to myself,
don't worry. Nobody's listening, and I feel like we're Bobby.
What was the guy's name with you?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I'm sure I could.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
That guy's Michael.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I'm looking up now.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
The Harry Doyle is the character for you, Ker, But
the guy that's with Harry Doyle, what's his name?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
He's not an accredited person. It's taking a second down
the list of people on here.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
This is Michael's spirit animal. He just kind of stands there.
He brings that passion.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
And then at some point I think Uker says something like,
they don't call you got anything to add, and he
doesn't have anything to add, and he's like, they don't call.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
In the game for nothing.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
And that's Michael mm hmm. Sty My d from.
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Speaker 5 (37:10):
The name of many nicknames, THEO is now Monty Monty.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
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Speaker 5 (37:17):
He has no last name, no last name, just Monty.
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Speaker 3 (01:04):
Hey everybody, welcome back to the Parker Resources Podcast. I
am Michael Parker and joins is always by Chris Parker
and doctor Chad Flat.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
With a new hip Yeah baby.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yep, yeah hip up soon but one hip yep hooray
and one to go right. That's right baby, But how's
the one hit the people have been asking Flat and
by the people, maybe one person but people have been
reaching out so so real quick before we even get
(01:39):
into our our guest, give us the give us the
update on the flat status.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Much.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I mean, I just just be not be the dumbass
that I usually am. I can't even describe the level
of relief that I have from having had this done.
Just incredible.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
If something were to fall off the table, would you
now be able to pick it up off the floor.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
On my left side? Yes, on the right side of
the bit of a stretch still right now.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So one side of the time, right now, so it.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Knows where we are in this How old are you again,
flat for?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
So that is young for a hip. I've never felt
younger than talking to Chad about his hips. So what
you're saying, though, is all joking aside if somebody is
deciding if they need to do this. You know, we
got a lot of coaches out there, a lot of
O line coaches, and this thing, Chad, you're saying that
you would recommend this procedure. Seriously, my doctor told me
(02:45):
in all seriousness, like the only thing typically that people
told him was they don't know why they waited so
long to have this done, And he was correct. I
felt the exact same way after even after surgery and
just the normal like holy cow, they've cut into you know,
all that stuff paint.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I felt so.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Much relief just in the area where my hip was
from arthritis being cleaned out and gone.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Just life change.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Honestly, really, I have heard I mean I really haven't
known many people with the hip replacement that we're younger,
but I do know a lot of people with knee
replacements that all said the same thing, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Wish had done it sooner.
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So I mean, it's not we're not totally you know,
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Speaker 4 (03:47):
But this doesn't offer altruism or anything. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Nevertheless, who we got on tonight, Michael, So.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
We have on Ben Reeves, who is the head coach
at Milton High School here in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, the public school national champs coach Reeves team at
Milton finished second in nearly every national poll behind Modern
Day in California, which is private school. So because we're
in Georgia and they're from Georgia, we'll deem them the
public school national champions. Had a great team last year,
kind of upset Walton to win the state championship last year.
(04:26):
This year, no upsets. Definitely the number one team all season.
Everybody knew they were good, a ton of good players.
You know, I'm curious talk to coach about what was different,
and you know, hear a little bit about their program.
They're really moving toward a national brand, you know, high school,
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which is just very different. There's different levels of football,
you know, and I'm not talking about three A, four A, five.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
A six A.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
There's obviously that, but there's different levels of what it's about,
and and Milton is moving into that.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
You know.
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joined this time by the head coach of the public
school National champions also the Georgia five A state champs.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Milton Eagles coach Ben Reeves, thanks for joining.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
Me coch Yes, sir, thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Coach man. What a great season. You know what stood
out to me.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
What I want to ask you about first is what
was different about this season. You've been on three state
championship teams. Two is a head coach now, But I
thought the first two times you were part of the
team that won it, Milton, and you guys had to
really earn it through the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You're probably the underdog. You're a team people probably counted out.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
You got better throughout the playoffs, and then you beat
the team that maybe people didn't think you were going
to beat the state championship game. This year, that wasn't
really the case, right, It was a little bit different.
You were the front runners coming in, people expected you
to win. You know you did win.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
What made it different?
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Yeah, I mean, just like what you alluded to.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
You know, those first two state championships, we definitely were
a dark horse, so to speak, and each one of
those years dropped a couple of games early on, so
people kind of rote us off, but still knew that
we had a good team and just had to get them,
you know, playing well and believing at the end of
the season whenever it matters the most. And fast forward
to this past year walking out of the Bens, you know,
from that twenty three state championship and people found out
(07:45):
we were returning eighteen of those guys. It's kind of when,
you know, we became the favorite, and you know, we
talked about just having that bullseye on our chest all
year long, and so it was a different animal for us,
you know, and you know, our biggest, our big goal
or one of them, was just not to be that
team that gets beat by eighteen Milton or twenty three Milton,
you know, because those two years we snuck up and
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took a state title away from programs that felt like,
you know, they were the best team in the state,
and we found a way to win. So our goal
was just not to let the roles be reversed on
us this season.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, and that's exactly what you did, coach, And my
follow up too, that was exactly that that it's not
near as easy as somebody might think that hadn't coached
a lot to just do that, because you got everybody
back doesn't mean you're going to win.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I know Buford had a team for four years ago.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
It was fantastic beating the second round one of the
better teams I'd seen in the regular season. You reference
the teams you guys have beaten in the state championship,
and so it's not a fourgone conclusion or a given
that your team's going to win because you have a
good team coming back.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
And so I would.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Say there was some challenges there that are even maybe
harder in their own right than when you're able to
build that camaraderie about everybody counting you out right or
not giving you a chance. You couldn't say stuff like that,
but I was impressed with your ability to rally the
team and make it us against them kind of. So
give me some Maybe somebody that's never been in your
(09:09):
exact position wants to know how you were able to
do that. How you rally a team that does know
they're good, they know they're better than most of the
teams are playing, but they're playing with a little bit
of a chip on their shoulder.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
What are some of the things you can do to
get that?
Speaker 7 (09:21):
Yeah, I mean, for one, I don't want to discount
just the kids that we had.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
You know, they were just stand up kids.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
You know, at Milton, we've created a culture of winning
and it hurts. It hurts our kids to lose, you know.
So first and foremost, we had kids that just were
winners and wanted to continue to do that. We had
kids that, you know, their brothers played for this program,
their brothers played for me.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
I watched these kids.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
Growing up in feeder football, and it still means a
lot to them to wear those wings. It still means
a lot to them to elevate the program as much
as possible. So that played a huge role in our
success for sure, on top of just a very experienced
and incredible coaching staff. So I want to make sure
that those groups get the the you know, recognition they
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deserve as well. And then just with the high level team,
you got to find out what motivates them. You know,
we were lucky enough to where we started out in
the top ten nationally, which you got to do if
you want to have a shot at a national title run.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
So the first thing that I threw out.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
At our guys was, look, you have the ability to
achieve something that you know, I personally didn't dream of
whenever I first came to Milton, you know.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
A true national title run. You know.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
So I gave them something new and fresh. I gave
them a goal to shoot for that they had not achieved,
and I think that that paid dividends for us and
also just with high level guys, you know, our minded them.
You know, you may not need to win another state title.
You know, what you do at Milton, this this upcoming
year may not mean anything to you in the long terms,
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but all you guys are going to go to high
level schools.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
You know, nine of you are going to be early enrollees.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
If you just take a year off, if you don't
compete for a year, if you don't get better every
single day at practice for an entire year, you're going
to show up to the universities and not be ready
to go.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
You know.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
So I made sure to give the team something that
we could shoot for as a whole, and then I
made sure to give those high level guys that were
returning something that they could work towards individually that you know, collectively,
we just all It forced all of us to try
to get better each and every day and ended up,
you know, with us playing our best football because of it.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Because what a great answer, by the way, I mean,
because everybody listening to this is not going to compete
for the national or the state championship, right, but everybody
can have that collective goal and everybody can take those
high and everybody's got some good players on their team,
whoever your best guys are, and find ways to motivate them.
I think that's a great way to look at that
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that somebody can carry from this.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Obviously, everybody wants to be just like you.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
They want to win the state championship, but everybody can,
but they can do those things.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
And your job as a coach get your teams as
good as it can be. Right for this.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Year, you guys as good as you could be was
public school national champions and you guys did that.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
You should be proud of that.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I was really impressed with the play, and I typically
I'm gonna talk about your coaching staff too, but first
I want to talk about the players. I don't I
don't typically highlight a lot of players, not because I
don't want to, but it's just hard to do. And
I didn't get to see him all play. It's not
college football and all that, But I saw you got
and this quarterback on your team, Luke Nickel. Yeah, I
thought he was as good of a quarterback as I
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ever saw. And I understand my hyperbole there, like I
understand what I'm saying when I say that, but I
didn't know that he got the exact same.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Love.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Maybe. I mean everybody knew he was good, yep.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
But you know I was here for Trevor Lawrence and
Deshaun Watson and obviously some of the guys even in
the last couple of years. And I do think for
a high school ball player, I don't know that he
was any worse than those guys. So tell me a
little bit about him, and maybe what are people missing
that aren't seeing that exact correlation.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Yeah, I know he's one.
Speaker 7 (12:59):
And you know, as as people know about me, even
to a fault, you know, I'm always gonna fight for
fight for my guys. You know, I ask them to
go out and fight for me on the field, so
I'll fight for them on whatever platforms I can. To
a fault sometimes and you know I just can't.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Think it's one of the reasons you guys are winning.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Really, Yeah, there's a lot of reasons, but one of
them is, yeah, you embraced that role, so go ahead.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Do it, yes sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
And you know, I think the big thing with with
Luke in general is, for one, he didn't really grow
up doing the camp circuit, so he wasn't a camp kid.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
He wasn't a seven on seven kid until late And
a lot of the guys that came in with hype
and kept the hype, you know, they they were true
camp kids. They started camping at sixth grade, seventh grade,
eighth grade. Uh. You know, Luke was busy doing other
things even in high school, and instead of going to camps,
Luke was just out you know, throwing, throwing with his
buddies on the field, getting better with our guys. So
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in a way, I feel like that hurt him a
little bit. But also he didn't care about that. You know,
that's not something that them. It's something that gave him
a chip to wear on his shoulder, to go out
and prove everybody wrong.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
And you know he was able to do that.
Speaker 7 (14:08):
And I think just that mindset of I'm not worried
about all the glitz and the glamour.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
I'm just worried about my team.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
I'm worried about making myself the best that I can
possibly make it.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
And then just his blue collar ness.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
I think that's just a quality of a quarterback that
I know we love to have in Milton.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
We've always had.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
That.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
I think is the true X factor that people need
to look at and recruiting of. You know, all right,
of course, the kid's got to be able to get.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
Out there and throw it on time and look good
doing all that like we do at the camps. But
is he a blue collar kid? Is he? Is he
a winner? It really get dirty, you know.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
I go back to when I was submitting paperwork for
Luke to go out to a lead eleven.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
They said, tell me the best story.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
About Luke, And I said, watching this kid as a
freshman playing a freshman football game every single play at
quarterback and then flip over and put his hand in
the turf and play defensive end every single play. You know,
he just he's tough, he's hard.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Nos.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
He just finds a way to win, and a team
rallies around that. And you pair that with his elite
talent and that that's what you get, you know. And
I think as people saw him play his junior year.
He opened a lot of eyes. Quarterback recruiting is funny, man,
it happens. It happens pretty early, you know. So it's
funny within states, you know, there's there's universities that don't
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want to make local high schools mad, and there's just
a lot that goes into it. But he's as good
as it gets in my opinion, and just a great,
great kid, great human, hard worker. He'll be successful, very
very humble, comes from a good family and athletics family.
So you know, he's one that I think we'll see
playing on Sunday. He's in the future.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah, I agree, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And the difference between me and you is I don't
even know him, you know, I don't I don't have
to take up for you, and I normally don't talk
about players for this exact reason. I don't like talking
about something I don't really know a lot about, right,
But I do believe from my outside point of view
that he's one of the guys that's going to play
early and play well. I think he'll be very successful
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the next level because of what you guys did with him.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
But I also thought.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Maybe playing with so many good players and such a
good team in some ways hurts you.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I think people just expect you to throw touchdowns every
series and expect you to square every series, and that's
not and they did, but he did, by the way,
but it becomes like the expectation instead of I don't
know that they had those exact same expectations on even
some of the guys I named.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Everybody knew it was great.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
The truth.
Speaker 7 (16:34):
Sorry to cut you off, you know the truth is
too And you triggered my mind that a lot of
our guys they don't get the recognition, like I said,
I think they deserve because you know, we're forcunate to
get up on some teams. And I still believe in
playing the game the right way, not showing not showing
anybody up and giving our backups, you know, reps, and
building depth that way. So I think we counted it
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up this past season, just when you add up total
quarters that Luke didn't play along with some of our
other starters, or we were just running clock out, you know,
intentionally handing the ball off, I think we came up
with five to six football games worth of quarters he
didn't even play in, so if you look at all
of his stats, and like I said, this is universal
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for a lot of our guys last year, and you
give them five to six more games worth of stats,
their numbers are astronomical.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
And I don't know, you know, I don't know the
true answer to that, because, like I said, you want
to play the game the right way. You want to
keep your guys healthy.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
You don't want any lake courts, injuries, any any do
mile situations you want to build, I.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Would apologize for none of that.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Coach.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Look, yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Gold win state championship, you did that, right, But if
you're just asking why did somebody get recruited more than
somebody else or less than somebody else, some of that
stuff can factor in no doubt, you guys can't make
decisions based on that, right, Yep. Absolutely, And look, Luke
didn't get slighted in that way. He's going to versus Miami,
He's going to bessful. I mean, he's not, you know,
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I just I just wanted to highlight for a minute.
You didn't pay me to say that. I just thought
he was one of the better kids I'd seen. And
I mean I was at the game in person in
the state championship game. It's really impressed with just how
to conduct himselves from the throws. I mean, it's just
really good. And I know lax and huge. Defense was
phenomenal by the way, and they looked, you know, and
sometimes made them look like a JVT. And I thought
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the key moment of the season I'm gonna ask you about.
They'll only ask you about one moment because another time
I watch you guys plays against Lee County. I only
got to watch it a few times. But you're undefeated,
you're number two or three in the nation. Everybody thinks
you're the greatest. Everybody's telling everybody in your team they're
the greatest. All the kids at school are probably telling
they're the greatest. You go play Lee County. You really
dominate the first quarter and a half or so, but
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for whatever reason, it's twenty one to twenty one, like
they had a few nice plays, and so you look
up in the scores tap at that moment, a team
like yours will go one in two ways, like it'll
just because you hadn't had a lot of those moments
in the season. You just kind of get tight, for
lack of a better word, and you'll make those errors
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that we talked about, some teams have made that were
the best team in the state just didn't win it. Yep,
and you didn't. The opposite was it looked like it
was twenty one to twenty one if I remember right.
I shouldn't do my homework and know this, but I
want to say it was like forty nine to twenty
one like that. I mean, you guys really turned it
on in a moment when ever, because Lee County was
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really good, so that would have been a moment where
you could look up and say, dang this, this might
really be happening to us.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And I didn't see any of that.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So talk to me about that specific moment and when
you said, hey, we got this.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
I mean there's three factors. I think.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
For one, it always helps, you know, just returning a
veteran team and having guys with experience that causes guys
to flinch less. I think secondly, just knowing, you know,
we played the toughest non A region schedule we possibly can.
You know, we were in a tight game with Buford,
we were in a tight game with American Heritage. So
I put our guys and situations to where they've been
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in tight games before with some of the best in
the country, and the goal was through those games just
to learn the lesson of keep battling for four quarters.
You know it's going to be a four quarter fight
and then third just kind of the mantra of the season,
but you know, finding those motivational factors that would keep
them going. The first one was it was twenty one
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to twenty one due to.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
Some self inflicted wounds.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
You know, we could have played a lot cleaner and
it would not have been that close. But you know,
my message to the guys all week, and that coin
toss has been so huge for us in those late
round playoff games. But I could look those seniors in
the eye and I could tell them that, with no doubt,
this is the last time you will ever play a
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football game in this stadium, in front of your home,
in front of your crowd, in front of your parents,
in front of your friends. How you can't waste to play.
So no matter what happens in this game, you know,
highs lows, good, bad, you cannot waste a single play.
Every play. You've got to fight with everything that you
have because this will be the game that you will
remember for the rest of your lives of how you
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went out on your home stadium and I just preached
out all week long. The coaches preached it with me,
and our kids went out there and they made it personal.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
You know.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
They they they were only going to walk off that
field as winners, you know, their lifetime ever being on
that turf. And I think that, you know, just walking
out there on that mindset, just just quitting or tanking
was never a thought that even came into their minds.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
But you guys did it. Coach.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
It was a great It was a great season. I
want to ask you two more questions. I'll let you go,
and this one was going to be, like you, you
know a lot of people listening to this have not
been in your exact situation, right, Yeah, So tell me
a little bit about you, Like tell I know you
played and all that, but you start coaching. Tell me
where you're coaching, tell me who you work with, and
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how you get to Milton.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
He can be brief, but I want people. I think
a lot of people can relate to that story.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Is why I'm an for sure.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
You know, I h a preferred walk on at Georgia
got hurt. Did a student assistant ship there for a year,
and that was long enough for me to know I
didn't want to touch college football.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
You know. I just like life and balance and family
too much.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
So started out at a small school in South Georgia, Barrion
County with Ryan Branch and you know, several guys from
that staff are head coaches now, Shaun Calhoun, Mario Drayton
back up in Fulton County, Clifford fed just got on
with college. It was. It was a good staff, but
for a twenty two year old, one stop like town.
After leaving Athon, Georgia wasn't quite what what I had
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had envisioned. So I packed up and moved down to Sarasota, Florida.
Just always wanted to live at the beach and coach
there for two years, which is good for me, just
to get away on my own and kind of grow
up as a man, you know, and have to depend
on myself for some things. And you know, I came
into this game with a lot of connections just through
my dad, and it got to meet a lot of
coaches through him and his thirty year plus career and
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one of the coaches, coach Kevin Reach, you know, just
taken over as the head coach at Colintil High School,
and Shaun Calhoun happened to be the offensive coordinator who
I had already worked with, and they called me and
convinced me to come back up to Gwinette County. So
I was there for six years and was just ready
to take, you know, take the next step and you know,
call plays and go to the offensive coordinator route. And
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that's when I leaked up with with Adam Klack. And
you know, he he he believed in me, which I'll
always be appreciative for, and you know I believed in
his vision and where he wanted to take the program,
and you know, he built it.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
You know, it happened.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
And you know I was lucky enough to not have
to build anything from the ground up. You know, I
took over a really good program, a really good product,
you know, one that I helped build. But I can't
take all the credit for. And you know, my my goal,
my loyalty is just to make sure that I always
do that justice. You know, all the people that put
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in the work before me, and all the people that
you know laid that groundwork.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
I try to show up every day and just make
sure I.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Don't let them down and continue to elevate the program
as much as I can.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I asked you that because there's a lot of guys,
there might be some guys listening burying, you know right now,
there might be some listening in Sarasota, Florida, yep. That
they may not have thought they could relate with you
because they don't have a national champion tender team right now.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
As a head coach, you didn't either at one point.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
You know, you didn't either, and you wouldn't have one
if you didn't believe in yourself and you didn't keep
trying to get better.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And that's what they gotta do. Go ahead, coach.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Yeah, And that's that's the thing too, you know, like
I tell some of my coaches right now as there
you know.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Weigh and decisions in their career.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
As the truth is, when I when I took the
OC job at Milton, that school won three playoff games
going back to nineteen fifty.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
So, you know, people see Milton.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
What it is now and think, man, you know you
had a great offensive coordinator job that led to a
great head coaching job. It wasn't necessarily a great offensive
coordinator job. You know, I went to a school that
was not winning, but I took a chance. And you know,
just through experiences with my dad and being some different
places myself, Well, if I got to kind of put
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together a list of what I thought was important and
in a good job and a job that I could
go in on and believe on and believe in and
Milton check those boxes.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
You know.
Speaker 7 (25:11):
So as crazy as it seems now looking at where
we're at, I had to take a leap of faiths
uh for my career and I had to believe in
a place and help build it up. So, you know,
if that's my biggest piece of advice if you if
you're if you're a coach and you're looking you know,
to take a jump in your career. You can't just
wait on the picture perfect, the picture perfect job. You know,
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you got to go somewhere that you believe in, that
has the resources and the thought process that you have,
and you got to make it the perfect job.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, and give with some good people, because you named
a lot of good people in there, and I know
sometimes we just get lucky on that. You just kind
of go somewhere and there's some good people there and
you learn I was fortunate like that.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
So, but get around some good people. Advice I can
tell you.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
So, coach, let's talk about some good people because I
know someone personally good dudes on that coaching staff, and
I do want to My last question is gonna be
about them.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
So tell me a little bit.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
About these coaches. I'm not gonna ask you any specific question.
I just want you to give him a shout out.
I was really impressed with the coaching staff. Uh. There,
you did have some good players, but I thought they
were well coached too, And I thought you executed well.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I thought it was good, especially.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Stevie Conna plays that thought was great touch, your defense
flew to the ball. I mean, I was really impressed
with special teams, what you guys do. So brag on
those guys. Give them a little shout out.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
Yeah, I mean, we'd have to do a whole other
podcast for me to truly brag them my whole staff,
because all those guys are are elite, and I'm thankful
they're coming back.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
To work with me another year, all of them. But
you know, Stevie, he's just so good at what he does.
Speaker 7 (26:42):
And you know, I only coach I coached Lucas freshman year,
but Stevie's the one that really raised him and brought
him up and turned him into a true quarterback. And
Stevie also does so much just with recruiting. I mean,
he spends hours and hours and hours a day just
fighting for our kids to get them offers. And you know,
somebody that could east go be a head coach somewhere,
and I'm thankful that he.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Works for me and he takes a lot of off
of my plate.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
And you know, David Willingham, the defensive coordinator, it's hard
not to love that guy. He just coaches with passion
every day. You know, the coaches phil it, the kids
feel it, Everything means something to him. He's just such
a winner, but also just such a good man and
good human for.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Our kids to be around. And he's obviously been calling.
Speaker 7 (27:24):
Defense for a long time, so there's not really anything
that you can show him that he's not gonna at
least have a solid plan for. And then special teams
coordinator Vinnie Silvestri. You know, he's he's an offensive guy
by trade, so he really buys into my overall philosophy
of using special teams as a weapon and trying to
steal possessions.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
And you know, we'll run eight to ten fake punts
per year.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
And Vinnie does a great job of scheming things up
and making the other team just you know, prepare for something,
just like if there was an offense or defense out
on the field, and you know, making sure that our
guys buy into, Hey, this isn't just something you got
a job out here and do because it's part of
the rules. This is something that we're gonna try to
change the game with. So you know, those three guys, man,
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they're great coaches, great human beings.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
You know, all guys.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
I dropped my kids off at their house right now,
you know, and let them stay just because I think
the highly of them, and you know, those are the
kind of people. And then that I want, you know,
our kids to be around. And that's one of the
things I look for when hiring the staff.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Couse, you got some good ones, man.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
I know, we give out some awards, but we got
to give all of them, two of them.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
It doesn't just work like that. But but I thought
the whole lot was well coached.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
And sometimes the best teams maybe they do have some
good coaches, maybe they don't you know. But I thought
you guys were a good marriage of good players mixed
in with some really good coaches, you know, And so
that's that's why you're becoming a national brand. You really
got to have both, and you guys have it. So
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I mean, I don't want to bore you or take
everybody's time, but we'll have to do another one later
where we talk about the next step for you, because
I think the.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Next step not in winning, because you've already got.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
The pinnacle of that, but just in that that national brand,
which is really a whole other type of football now
that I think you guys are entering into. And so
that's exciting and challenging, and I'm really excited to follow
you guys and see what.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You can do. I really am. So you know, I'm
a fan.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
So I'm here if you If I can ever help you,
I don't know how I can, but I'm here.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
So yeah, I'll definitely usually as a resource as needed.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Obviously a great one, and.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I just know that I wish that I had a
coach of Milton and up with you two damn guys
like Jesus like man. That is a great setup. A
lot of support from guys. And there some players there,
that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I mean I got the YouTube guys.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
They did do a good.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Job of a scheme. They really had good players. I mean,
they got a target on their back. It's it is
a different you know. I love doing this because we
talked to so many different types of programs, right and
I take pride in what we do with the awards,
what we do on the podcast with recognizing people whose
teams went five and five and I thought they did
some of the best jobs in the state. But you
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can't always just count that when you go undefeated and
winn the state championship.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
That's something too.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I mean, so I like talking to all of them,
you know, and it's just such a different national brand
that they're building at Milton, and so you'll.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Be curious to see where that goes.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Because what I didn't ask coach about, but I wouldn't
have minded to if we have more time, was you know,
there was a time when like Marietta was kind of
that team five or six years ago and Collins Hill
with you know, Travis Hunter, and I mean these are
recent history, you know, like a team that really dominated
and that didn't last forever. Right, So I don't know
(30:56):
that there's always this this idea that it's just gonna
last forever, you know, where they're just gonna always be
good now because they have this that that's very short sighted,
and so it'll be curious to see if that national
trajectory continues up for them, right. And I do love
(31:19):
their quarterback, by the way, But that quarterback at Milton,
I love that guy.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
So I thought he was awesome. So it's easy to hate.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
On the team at times when they're really good. That
dude was awesome. That was That was a fun game
to watch. I watched that one too, that's the title game.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, he was a player now.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Man at Langston Hughes defense was giving up like eleven
twelve points a game and a tougher reagent. I mean,
really really good, and I mean they just he just
picked him apart and I mean that was really good.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
So it's the time everybody's been waiting for Flat. We
got at least one good hip Flat, which we hadn't
had in a long time, no shit. So this is
the brought to you by Coastal Sports Turf, the literal
new and improved Flat Favorites. What you got well. I mean, first,
(32:13):
the new hip. We've already discussed that. I can't even
describe that. I can't imagine how good it's gonna be
when I have two new hips. Literally, Kelly Flatbear watch out,
No shit, she better watch out. Let's just say that,
nothing much can top the job that Brandon Thomas, Jordan
Shaw and their assistant did over time with. Watching a
(32:36):
Ruby's team, the Pickings Dragonettes win the region championship this
past Saturday was a.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Pretty cool thing to be a part of.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And I'm sure a lot of people that listen to
this have been part of a lot of region championships.
Me and myself personally have not been a part of
a lot of them. So it's pretty cool watching my
daughter be a part of that, even as a kid
who doesn't play much. So it was really neat to
see all that and a lot of fun. Super proud
of those guys for that. What's the Pickens girls record?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
What's that record?
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Right now? They are as we record this in two,
I think twenty six and two The boys are twenty
seventy one.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
They don't know if you do your math over Inverside County,
but that is a grand total of fifty three and
three maybe for ball, and when you think about, you know,
the North Georgia Mountains of Pickens County, you may not
think of fifty three and three in basketball. So let's
just there's some music played it song. But hey, great
(33:43):
season Bob Martin boys coach of Pickens and a great
job Jordan Shaw girls coaching. And Brandon Thomas, our athlete director,
doesn't really have done a great job. And more than anything, Chad, honestly,
I've been impressed with what our athletic department has done
with collectively and pulling for each other. And you know,
(34:03):
got wrestlers and they got the football coaches helping and
you know like that part. They've just the principal and
ad all, I'm doing a great job in the environment
that creates through the students and all those things, which
I know we tell a lot of jokes on here,
but that should be what you're trying to accomplish. So
if I was an athletic director, I would, you know,
(34:26):
I would seek out what they're doing at Brandon Thomas.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
If you don't know who he is, get to know
what me doing.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
A good job?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Been ave been on the podcast before, right, I mean,
oh yeah, yeah, you never know.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
You're a friend of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Definitely, definitely a friend of the podcast. A friend of
the podcast. Okay, I guess that could catch on.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
It's likely to be viral.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Michael, you got any grievances or anything to add? You
bring that same passion post one hip for flat yep. See,
that's why he's the best color man.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
What's the uker?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Didn't you care pass away recently?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
He did?
Speaker 3 (35:11):
We should talk about that.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
We should have talked about that.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I watched Major League last night.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Really movie that is such a good movie.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
If it's on, I'm watching it.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
So there's like twenty good parts to Major League at
least at least at least. But I do think my
favorite one is when Bob Baker's talking and he's reading
the box score and it's at the bad time and
you know, the Indians had no runs, one hit whatever
one We hit one.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
GD can't say that, And.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Then like you can't, he said, well, don't worry.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Nobody's listening. That's how I feel about this podcast most
that's that.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I can't tell you, guys how many times that line
has resonated with me. When Chad said something like what
he said about Kelly Flatt, and then he says, maybe
we should edit that out, and I think to myself,
don't worry. Nobody's listening, and I feel like we're Bobby.
What was the guy's name with you?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I'm sure I could.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
That guy's Michael.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I'm looking up now.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
The Harry Doyle is the character for you, Ker, But
the guy that's with Harry Doyle, what's his name?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
He's not an accredited person. It's taking a second down
the list of people on here.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
This is Michael's spirit animal. He just kind of stands there.
He brings that passion.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
And then at some point I think Uker says something like,
they don't call you got anything to add, and he
doesn't have anything to add, and he's like, they don't call.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
In the game for nothing.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
And that's Michael mm hmm. Sty My d from.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Now a silent radio broadcaster of Erry.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Doyle from now on, the man of many nicknames, Monty.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
The name of many nicknames, THEO is now Monty Monty.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
THEO Parker.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
He has no last name, no last name, just Monty.
They don't call him the best colored man in the
game for nothing.
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