August 8, 2025 • 30 mins
Today's guest is Coach Mike Hancock, the former Head Football Coach at Apalachee. Coach Hancock talks about his journey since the horrific events at Apalachee last year. Great conversation with a great leader.
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We try to teach you a lot of life lessons
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Yeah, that was a tease, all right. So tonight what
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Yeah, so I'm gonna kill the mood here because what
we got tonight is they got coach Mike Hancock. Coach
Mike Hancock was the head football coach Appalachi last few years.
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So Coach Hancock was the coach when they had a
tragedy last year.
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So I mean, I really you know, he has resigned
that position and talk a little bit about some mental
health things, talk a little bit about just football in general.
He's working at Loganville now and kind of his journey.
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three zero four three night. All right, please be joined
this time by coach Mike Cancock, coach the former coach Appalachi.
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A little bit different episode here because nobody can relate
with what you've dealt with, but just want to talk
to a little bit about your path and what you
got going on.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So tell anybody listening, what are you doing now?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Well, I'm able to go back home home for me.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Nineteen ninety seven, I got a job at Lowsville High School,
work for Tommy Stringer and coach Stringer, you know, obviously,
you know he's one of the all time greats. But
what got me to Loganville in nineteen ninety seven was
a middle school friend of mine, guy named Jeff Seegers. Jeff,
you know, currently is the ad at Logo. At that time,
you know, Jeff was you know, growing as a head
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baseball coach, built the program at you know, at Loganville
into you know, one of the top programs in the state.
And he and I've always remained friends, and you know,
just another opportunity came for me to come back home.
So I'm back home coaching at Logville High School.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Awesome coach, Well, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And it's you know, Obviously your perspective has had to
have changed drastically, right, I mean, we can't sure coche that.
So what's something you want people to know about to
impact the coaching that you've really learned.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I mean that's a broad question, I know, but I'm
interested in the answer.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yes, sir, I think kind of. And last what two
weeks ago a week could go? Time flies right now?
We started a new teacher orientation to day, so my
day's been crazy.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
We practiced a six and teach your orientation.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
But you know, we went to the f c A
Paddy camp at West Georgia and I talked to the
our f c A guys names jeff' hughes and got
to meet a guy named Mike Roby. And Mike does
a lot in the state, and I said, Mike, can,
is there an opportunity for me to share with the
coaches and just kind of where God has led me
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through all this is to have coaches understand that that
we all go through struggles. Obviously, my struggle was different
than than what everybody else and I hope that nobody
ever has to go through. But the thing that that
I got out of that is you need you one
you know, it's.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Okay to not be okay. Number two, we need to
check on our people.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Uh. And there's there's guys I know you've had Chris
lamb on and Chris is one of those guys. You
know he's going you probably get the same thing. You know,
he texts once a week to check.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
In on people.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
And and there's other guys that you know, William harrold
At Uh, you know that was at Johnson. You know,
he and I become really good friends through this, and
you know we text about once a week. You know,
guys like Travis Nolan coach Nolan is is always checking
on me. Uh, you know, just it's good to check
on people. But there's also people that I'm sure that
you know coach with you and that you've worked with
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that you know we kind of lose touch with oftentimes.
But you know, God paces them on your heart and say, oh,
why don't you reach out to coach so and so
check on them?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
And and those are things to.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Me that's good for me when I get those texts today.
Going to new teacher orientation, Chris, it was cool. You
know there was you know, former students that came up
to me and said, coach. You know, I'm teaching, I'm
going through this new teacher orientation because of you, and
just you know, knowing that impact that I've had, you know,
not because of me, but you know how God has
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worked in and through me, and and just just kind
of cool to see. That's what I was telling somebody.
It's it's cool to see how God has kind of
worked this, you know, for me. And you know Jeff
and I, you know, we're close friends. We're in each
other's weddings. And you know, my path was football. His
path was baseball, and you know he jokes all the time.
You know, with me, i'd have a couple more you know,
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state championship brings in baseball, but you know I wanted
to pursue football, so you know, I pursued that and
God led me back, and yeah, it's it's it's awesome
just to be.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Back, because that's what I wanted to touch on, you know,
for the topic kind of for today, for this twenty
minutes or so, just the perspective and how coaches can
help other coaches. You know, I've seen some of the
stuff you put out in the last year, I guess
or six months or so. And checking on each other
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and it's okay to not be okay and all that stuff,
because does be honest coach, You and I probably about
the same age.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
That ain't how we came up in it, right, No, so,
but when something.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Happens like you had, everybody rallies around that, and they do.
But how many times are people going through things that
don't become obviously known like that, they're going through things?
So I thought you've been an ambassador for that. I
don't know if you're trying to be or if you
intend to be, but I see you as.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
An ambassador for that. And so one, thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
And then two, I want to provide you any platform
to like help anybody that obviously is not going through
what you've.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Gone through, but they're going through something with their.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Team or at home or whatever it is, and they
don't quite realize what impact they're making right now.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And then sometimes some variation of.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
A tragedy and I had two kids pass away in
car accidents, and that centered me. You had something nobody
can identify with. But sometimes unfortunately stuff has to happen
to remind you why you do this and what impacts
you make? Right And I wish people could make that.
I wish we could get people to feel that way
without having to go through that stuff. And I think
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that's what you you you've kind of tried to say
as a message.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Am I right on that, Yes, sir, And that's kind
of you know, I think we can look at ways
and I'm not saying God use that to test me
and by any means, but I have learned through this,
you know. I you know, I'm onen eighteen as a
head football coach. You know that that that's fine. I've
seen the impact that that God has allowed me to
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have and in twenty nine years of education and his
people and relationships and and and those types of things.
But it's it's one of those things, Chris, I had
to learn how to be vulnerable. And you know that's
and I say this too. I'm I'm far from being
a perfect Christian. But what I am open to is
listening to the Holy Spirit and listen to say, Okay,
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you know I put you in this position, I.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Can use you or you can you know, be bitter
and upset.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
And you know, and I'll be honest, you know, there
was there's some head football jobs that I've interviewed that
that I didn't get and I allowed myself to.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Be bitter about it.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
And you know, God didn't create us to be that way,
and He created us to use whatever circumstance that we're
put in to we can glorify him or or we
can be bitter about it and do those things. And
then there's times in my life that I've been that,
but I've learned through the years and grown spiritually. Just
that wasn't one of those times that, you know, when
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everything happened, it was my rallying to to help those
kids and to help the community. And obviously the hardest
part for me was walking away from that community. But
I knew for my own, you know, personal help, that
I didn't need to be a head football coach, not
this season. I'm not saying, you know where God leads me,
I don't know, but I knew that, and I knew
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that I could try to allow God to use me
in this. Like I said, I spoke at the FCA
camp and it was awesome to speak in front of
a bunch of men, and there were guys that that
that came up to me, and if I can help
somebody through that, and like you said, you know, we
were taught you know, you know, I'm fifty three years old.
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This is my twenty ninth year and education that you
know we were taught Chris, I was that, you know,
by my dad.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
My dad was a godly man. But if there I
didn't he didn't grieve.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
I never saw him cry. You know, it was put
your big boy pants on and move on. And that's
one thing I learned through Christian counseling. One it's okay
to not be okay, but the two it's okay to
be vulnerable. I don't really care that people, you know, so, oh,
he's not a man's man.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Well that's fine. I'm a guy, you know.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
As long as people know that I'm you know, serving
a mighty God and that I'm here to help people,
then then that's okay.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
If people say I'm not a man's man, well I.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Don't think anybody says that, coach, and I definitely don't
think anybody, well, nobody's saying that about you.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yes, I know what you've been through, what I'm trying
to get across and wondering.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
The one talked to you today was how I want
people to feel that way when they hadn't been through
something everybody knows about, you.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Then we've got to be a little more show a
little more grace, help each other. Coaching is becoming a
tough job for many reasons, but one of them should
not be the coaches aren't supporting the other coaches, whether
it's on the staff or even other staffs. Look, I
tried to beat up the team the other team. I
was trying to crush him on Friday night, but I
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did fill a kinship with him the rest of the time,
you know, And we need people to keep that. And
I think the way to keep that is to have
a little more honest dialogue sometimes about what people are
dealing with and not wait for something like you had
to deal with for people to say, well, that's a
tough guy right there. Well yeah, of course, but what
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about all you know, can we help everybody else too?
Can you use that platform to show those things? And
so I really admire the courage one just what you
had to deal with. I mean, I've told you that
already other time, sir. The courage of what you've had
to do is unbelievable. But I want to talk about
the future. So I want to talk more about the
courage of what you you're building with your testimony and
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your your message of what that can be for you.
And so yeah, I don't even know if there's a
question there. I'm just saying I appreciate it, Coach.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I do you know well, I mean you said something
though about you know, we want to beat each other.
But that's one of the things that I learned, you know,
And I can go through our region, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
You know Robert pats Hit.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
You know, obviously Pax and I are in the same region,
but you know the friendship that you that that you
bond with being in the same county.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
You know, Robert was always you know, he would check
on me.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
You know Benji Harrison, that have you know, another region guy,
you know, Corey Mobbs, you know David Perno, you know
all those guys.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
That they they you know they you know, even then when.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
We came back, they wanted to win the football game
for their kids, and our kids were trying to win
a football game. But those are guys that that I
have a great bond with, you know, because you know,
one we're in the same region together, and I got
a lot of respect for those guys.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
And you know relationships with them. You know guys. You
know Tommy Jones, you know another one.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
You know that that that's out there, and you know
that that I could, I could, you know, just keep going.
You know of people that you build relationships with, but
you know you want to beat.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Them on Friday night.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Kevin Reach and I were, you know, roommates back in
our single days and still good friends.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
But you know we're gonna play Monroe.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
You know, he he want to beat us, just like
I want to beat him. But you know, at the
end of the day, we're gonna check on each other
and we're gonna do those things.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
There's a good message there, coach, That's all I'm saying.
It's just a good message there. It's okay to try
to beat them up on the on the field, and
it's okay to love on them the rest of the time,
you know. And I just think you're a good You're
a good walking example of that, coach.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
So let's talk.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
About Loganville though, Loganville, we're gonna have a good team
this year, I hope.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
So I feel good, head coach, and I'm worded.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
You know a guy named Nick Snowdon Nick is a
guy that he actually you know, and when he first
started his teaching career, he had my own son. And
now my son is a senior. But you know, the
impact that Nick had on my child was was one
of those and then just getting to know him over
the years and you know, trying to work together.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
You know, now now I get to work for him,
and I'm excited about that.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
But there's a lot of great guys on that staff
and you know it's cool to connect with them and
watch you know, that program get, you know, continue to
build and you know, hopefully.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
We can have a good year. But we've got a
lot of good kids.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
And you know it's that room, that room of men
that you spend ninety percent of your time with. Excuse me,
we all get along and that's been the fun part
is just and you know the other part, Chris, and
I'm not having to answer nine thousand emails and I'm
not having to you know, answer phone. I talked to
a guy that today that was a new teacher orientation
as the head coach for a long time, and he goes,
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you know, my role is just moving the chains and
I ain't got to worry about all.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Other stuff that's right.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's people say some variation of the same thing to
me when they've been a head coach, and then they
go back helping somebody else. You know, it's like it's
weird when you don't make the schedule. To some degree,
I guess that's maybe the only difference. But because they
but they all say, look, it's great and and it's
universal that they feel like they can help better. They
actually feel like they're a better assistant coach than they
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were when they were at the time before.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
But there is some power. Never mistake there's some power.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
And somebody ask somebody's mama asked something, and you say, he,
I don't know, you don't need to talk to me.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
See that guy over there, that's the guy you need
to talk to. Something to be said for that, right coach?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
What what have you? What do you think you can offer?
So I think a lot of people are in this situation.
A lot of people have been in your other situation.
This situation you see often where somebody's a head coach
for whatever reason, they're doing something different this year they're
an assistant coach.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
How does it change your perspective a little bit?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
That it changes my perspective because it's not going to
change me from the fact for that I'm a head
coach or I'm the if I'm the lowest ninth grade coaches,
I got to you know, you've still got a bill
relationship with kids, and I think you've got to build
relationship with those coaches. And I'm on, you know, I'm
not above picking up a broom and sweeping the floor.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Right now. My my duty is laundry duty.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
This week, and you know, I'm having to do laundry
and you know, those are things that I still did
as a head coach. But that's one thing is showing
this younger generation of coaches that and there are some
that get it and some that don't. Hopefully those younger
It's okay to pick up a broom, it's okay trash,
and it's okay.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
To do any duty.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
And that's what I you know, try to tell these
young guys that I work with, is you know, be coachable.
But also, you know, don't be thinking. You know, whatever
title you hold, you're not too big to do any.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Job that's needed to help the football program.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Absolutely, coach, and it's okay to lead by example and
I'd like to say, because it's easy to get on
the young coaches. You know, it's easy to say these
young coaches, don't this when you're old like us. It's
easy to do.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
But we we have a responsibility that too.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And I appreciate you saying that because I think it's
easy to say they need to be better at picking
up a broom, but I will say we need to
be leading by example, showing them how to be vulnerable,
showing them how to pick up a broom, showing them
how to love on kids, but also coach them hard, like.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Or have we failed some of these young coaches?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Now?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I hope maybe not you, But I mean we as
a collective group of people in our late forties to sixties,
have we done a great job of leading by example always?
Speaker 5 (19:41):
You know?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And I think that's what we got to do, right. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
And then that's talking to some of these new guys
that I'm working with, is you know, some of these
old heads like we are, there's guys that think they're
too good to do things too, and they're like, well, coach,
I worked with a guy and he will all he
want to do is sit in the chair and you know,
be the first one out and you know he want
and being an example either And that's one thing that
you know, I enjoy and sitting at I was talking
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one of one of the guys the other day, it's
it's good, you know, good to just come back and
sit in the coach's.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Office and hang out.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Absolutely, people don't do that some people, and I get it.
Everybody wants to get home, but that's where you build
relationships and just sitting in that coach's office during your
planning period, hanging out with other coaches, or you know,
sitting for a minute after practice where you run home,
just just talking.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Absolutely, g that's actually one of the things you miss.
I mean, I miss readship with the kids, and you
miss the coaches camaraderie. You don't, I don't really look
I don't really miss coaching on Friday night.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I really do.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I know some people say they miss that. I don't
miss a lot of it, but I do miss that.
You know, when you don't have that, you'll miss it.
And I appreciate coach. I'm looking forward to following you guys.
New coaching staff at Loganville, and I have a good
you know, building something there and I appreciate you taking
some time to talk to me because I feel like
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that message is important. And I just appreciate your example
and I'm looking forward to finding you the rest of
the way through your career.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Coach, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
But if anything, I can leave you with Chris or
leave anybody that you know, if you're struggling and anything,
you know, I'm here. You know, people can reach out
to me. You've got my number of somebody you need
to pass it along. You don't have to ask me.
And if any way I can help somebody, you know,
learn to grieve or or just pray with them or
just you know, just listen and I you know, I
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appreciate you let me come on and do it. And always,
you know, I think you know, like I said, you
and I've talked multiple times, but I do appreciate you
let me heard. But understand that you know, as coaches,
we need each other. And he said, you need to
check on your people. And hopefully somebody listens to this today.
I need to check on coach so and so. But
you know, just just check on your people. We work,
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we work too hard, and we build relationships. But oftentimes
that I'm the worst at getting back with people. But
we need to check on our people and make sure
we're reaching out and staying in touch and just saying, hey, man,
how you doing, and just be honest with somebody if
you're not.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yes, sir, well, I appreciate you taking your time, coach,
Coach Mike Hancock.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
The man. If I can help you anyway, really let
me know anytime.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
All right, I appreciate it, Chris, thank you for having
me on.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Take care, Yes, sir, all right, guys, I'm glad y'all
got here that.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I'm glad you got a chance to hear Coach Hancock. Obviously,
none of us can put ourselves in his shoes. We
try to as leaders, try to put yourself in people's
shoes campushiping issues.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
But we can be supportive.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
You learn from that, and I hope people got something
out of that, but you know, really good to talk
to them. So, guys, I said, when we got done
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I mean that's sponsoring. Even after you kicked me off.
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Speaker 1 (23:03):
Well, it's an annual thing, so I'm thinking that they
may be gone after this year.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
But the show, well they're not paying for y'all.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
In lieu of that, let's uh, let's kick off another
twenty five twenty six school year.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
First ever flats favorites. What you got?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, you know that summer. Summer was awesome. Summer was awesome.
Got to go to Colorado, to Colorado.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Like Denver area and Michael Drug We listened together. We
went together in a car with her mom and dad.
It was a and when I say a car, I
mean a car SUV, not a truck, not a yeah,
like in nineteen ninety one or something, I don't know,
(24:01):
a long time.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah. After that, I feel like you were in high school.
I think it was like you were like either going
in the ninth grade or something.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
So your experience was not as good as mine. I
can already tell on this front at the moment.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
So if I was going to ninth grade, Michael was
going to sixth grade, and he's like, he's like laying
on me the whole way.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
We drove there in twenty four hours. We did not.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And by the way, that would have been like ninety
two or nine three. Michael, you getting your years to stop?
But did you wear the pens?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
What hell?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
We all do it? I mean, we just go to
the bathroom. Okay, They like they drove all day. We
didn't stop at a hotel. We just drove. Like listen,
we didn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I was going to the ninth grade. I was trying
to I was well back then you didn't have a
phone or nothing. But I was trying to do stuff
other than go in the car to Colorado with my mom,
dad and Michael.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Okay, I don't apologize for that. I probably didn't have
the best st attitude, but he did not. I can
probably probably didn't. I mean, you know that. So this
was a different time.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Okay, But yeah, so we stole your segment because you
didn't even know we were going to say that. But yes,
we have been to Colorado, but I don't know that
I've been to Colorado since.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Have a Michael, is that the only time we've been.
I went one more time, but you didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So maybe I'll go back sometime and I'll make elliet
and then pay attention and have a good attitude.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
And it won't be the same. They'll have their iPads,
it won't be the same. Yeah, it's not the same.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Me and Michael think about it. We had no technology
for the young because a lot of young coach listening
to this. I don't know why, but they do. But
if you're a young coach and you're thinking, it's nineteen
ninety two, we have no technology. Okay, I can't like
text my friends back home, a girlfriend, you can't get
on Instagram. It's just me and little sixth grade Michael
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in the back of the seat of a car for
hours I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
I think it was like twenty four straight hours.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I mean it had to have been one hundred hours
total in the trip. And there's nothing to do. I
mean there's not even like a damn. I don't think
it was a CD player back then. We might have
had to take like a water.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
We might Did you have the mixtapes made you can
listen to?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Did we have a walkman?
Speaker 5 (26:19):
I don't remember, surely, but surely I had a walkman.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I kind of Michael just like Lane on the like
Lane do.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Because you know, nobody wore a seat belt either, so
the something he's not even sitting in his seat.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
That was a bad experience in Colorado. Tell us about
a good one, Chad.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It was great the girls soccer team back in January.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I think we talked about at one point qualified for
nationals out there with their club teams.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
It was cool. So didn't play as well.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
As they could have, as unfortunate that got one really
good win out of the tournament. But we're just a
cool experien It's got the They played at Dick Sporting
Goods Park, which is where the Colorado Rapids play, and
a lot of the guys on here probably don't know
much about MLS or soccer or anything like that, but
but a super cool venue with thirty plus full sized
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soccer fields around the MLS stadium and Denver's just got
such a cool setup right there where there's neighborhoods all
around the stadium so you can just walk to the
stadium right there. It's a very cool setup. It was.
It was awesome. So it was really cool to see
him playing with the Rocky mountains in the background and stuff.
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Just totally neat experience. That was definitely the favorite trip
Mannings of the summer.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
So I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
The backseat truck with Michael to games for multiple years,
and that shit was bad enough. I can't imagine four
hours going to Denver with him in the back of
a car.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
As much as he complains, Yeah, I was enjoying.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I will self report now for our whole lives, Michael
was complaining way more than me.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
But I did that trip. But on that trip, I
got it. Okay, I probably complained way more than he did.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I will self report. Like I said, I was probably
fourteen or something like. I was not in a place where,
you know, I needed to be in the car with
my little brother for one hundred hours over two weeks.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
But we made it work. Yeah, we went into good headspace. Yeah,
we made it back. We watched it.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I think it was like the Rockies were starting to
team then, so maybe ninety three. It's like the one
the first Year's the first year the Rockies had a team.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I mean there was a it was, it was. There
was some there was some highlights, you know, but.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
We went with a lot of bitch in between my
high stadium, so I do, yeah, like the football stadium.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Yeah, they played at my high stadium.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Okay, Yeah, we went to a Rockies game while we're
that's a cool stadium.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It was a nice place. Yeah, they're not good at
baseball this.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Oh God, know that they were on pace like a
major league record for losses.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
They still may be. That's how much I know about
that baseball. That was back in July. So who knows
what's happened. They might.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
For all you know, Flat doesn't care about baseball this year.
You know why because the Braves.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Braves are not good. Yeah. Flat liked baseball in twenty
twenty one. He had one good year of being all
of them the whole time. Yea season.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
As soon as they got in the playoffs from getting closed,
I paid a little bit of attention to it.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
So they get back there, I'll watch again.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, at least he's honest. I'm worried if his fandom
of Alabama is gonna wigne now that coach Saban's He's
never known a coach other than coach Saban, you know,
so I.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Know it make life hard. Yeah, all right, Well we're back.
We'll see if Chad can be here next week. See,
I'm gonna listen.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I'm gonna go out on them and say you probably
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Parker Resources Podcast. I am Michael Parker and joined us
always by Chris Parker and for the first time in
a long time, doctor Chad Flatt.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
What's up, doctor flat Man? What a treat back in
the house? What do we do to deserve it? On sabbatical? Yeah,
sabbatical sabbatical. Hello get invited very often anymore? I feel
like I got canceled off of here or something. Well,
that's not true. First off. Also, when you don't show
it like a good life lesson.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
We try to teach you a lot of life lessons
to the coaches out there, athletic directors, leaders, whatever. But
one of the lessons is if people are trying to
invite you to something.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
And you never say yes, inviting, just saying so, you know, you.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
To make both word invited as So, has Michael been
here and I've not been.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, Michael's been Michael Michael onlyness. There was only one day.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Where I literally sat here by myself and then I
just recorded the stuff by myself.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
So that was my bad fell asleep.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
But the rest of the time, Michael's pretty good. He's like,
you know, he's about nine hundred, you're about in about
one hundred.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
You.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I almost missed it tonight.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
I'm just back to school episode.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
It was a little rough to get to. I feel
like I've been shunned. Now, let's ain't cool man, We
haven't had that.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
But yeah, you missed. You missed the entire summer. You
like Rip Van Winkle, you just slept through the damn
summer and now.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
School started back.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You would think Chad a principal, a respectful principal in
a in a very respectful school district, you know, would
be fine over the summer and really hard to work
within the school year.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
But it's actually the opposite. He got to disappear on
you in the summer. Oh, busy was out in Colorado,
out in Colorado. Let's save that for the end.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
You know, we got to keep people listening, so you
get your favorites.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, that was a tease, all right. So tonight what
we call it teas in this business.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, so I'm gonna kill the mood here because what
we got tonight is they got coach Mike Hancock. Coach
Mike Hancock was the head football coach Appalachi last few years.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So Coach Hancock was the coach when they had a
tragedy last year.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
So I mean, I really you know, he has resigned
that position and talk a little bit about some mental
health things, talk a little bit about just football in general.
He's working at Loganville now and kind of his journey.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So this is gonna be a good one, guys. Then
we'll get back to cracking jokes. But this is gonna
be a good one.
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three zero four three night. All right, please be joined
this time by coach Mike Cancock, coach the former coach Appalachi.
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A little bit different episode here because nobody can relate
with what you've dealt with, but just want to talk
to a little bit about your path and what you
got going on.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So tell anybody listening, what are you doing now?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Well, I'm able to go back home home for me.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Nineteen ninety seven, I got a job at Lowsville High School,
work for Tommy Stringer and coach Stringer, you know, obviously,
you know he's one of the all time greats. But
what got me to Loganville in nineteen ninety seven was
a middle school friend of mine, guy named Jeff Seegers. Jeff,
you know, currently is the ad at Logo. At that time,
you know, Jeff was you know, growing as a head
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baseball coach, built the program at you know, at Loganville
into you know, one of the top programs in the state.
And he and I've always remained friends, and you know,
just another opportunity came for me to come back home.
So I'm back home coaching at Logville High School.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Awesome coach, Well, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And it's you know, Obviously your perspective has had to
have changed drastically, right, I mean, we can't sure coche that.
So what's something you want people to know about to
impact the coaching that you've really learned.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I mean that's a broad question, I know, but I'm
interested in the answer.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Yes, sir, I think kind of. And last what two
weeks ago a week could go? Time flies right now?
We started a new teacher orientation to day, so my
day's been crazy.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
We practiced a six and teach your orientation.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
But you know, we went to the f c A
Paddy camp at West Georgia and I talked to the
our f c A guys names jeff' hughes and got
to meet a guy named Mike Roby. And Mike does
a lot in the state, and I said, Mike, can,
is there an opportunity for me to share with the
coaches and just kind of where God has led me
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through all this is to have coaches understand that that
we all go through struggles. Obviously, my struggle was different
than than what everybody else and I hope that nobody
ever has to go through. But the thing that that
I got out of that is you need you one
you know, it's.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Okay to not be okay. Number two, we need to
check on our people.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Uh. And there's there's guys I know you've had Chris
lamb on and Chris is one of those guys. You
know he's going you probably get the same thing. You know,
he texts once a week to check.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
In on people.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
And and there's other guys that you know, William harrold
At Uh, you know that was at Johnson. You know,
he and I become really good friends through this, and
you know we text about once a week. You know,
guys like Travis Nolan coach Nolan is is always checking
on me. Uh, you know, just it's good to check
on people. But there's also people that I'm sure that
you know coach with you and that you've worked with
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that you know we kind of lose touch with oftentimes.
But you know, God paces them on your heart and say, oh,
why don't you reach out to coach so and so
check on them?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
And and those are things to.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Me that's good for me when I get those texts today.
Going to new teacher orientation, Chris, it was cool. You
know there was you know, former students that came up
to me and said, coach. You know, I'm teaching, I'm
going through this new teacher orientation because of you, and
just you know, knowing that impact that I've had, you know,
not because of me, but you know how God has
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worked in and through me, and and just just kind
of cool to see. That's what I was telling somebody.
It's it's cool to see how God has kind of
worked this, you know, for me. And you know Jeff
and I, you know, we're close friends. We're in each
other's weddings. And you know, my path was football. His
path was baseball, and you know he jokes all the time.
You know, with me, i'd have a couple more you know,
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state championship brings in baseball, but you know I wanted
to pursue football, so you know, I pursued that and
God led me back, and yeah, it's it's it's awesome
just to be.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Back, because that's what I wanted to touch on, you know,
for the topic kind of for today, for this twenty
minutes or so, just the perspective and how coaches can
help other coaches. You know, I've seen some of the
stuff you put out in the last year, I guess
or six months or so. And checking on each other
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and it's okay to not be okay and all that stuff,
because does be honest coach, You and I probably about
the same age.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
That ain't how we came up in it, right, No, so,
but when something.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Happens like you had, everybody rallies around that, and they do.
But how many times are people going through things that
don't become obviously known like that, they're going through things?
So I thought you've been an ambassador for that. I
don't know if you're trying to be or if you
intend to be, but I see you as.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
An ambassador for that. And so one, thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
And then two, I want to provide you any platform
to like help anybody that obviously is not going through
what you've.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Gone through, but they're going through something with their.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Team or at home or whatever it is, and they
don't quite realize what impact they're making right now.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
And then sometimes some variation of.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
A tragedy and I had two kids pass away in
car accidents, and that centered me. You had something nobody
can identify with. But sometimes unfortunately stuff has to happen
to remind you why you do this and what impacts
you make? Right And I wish people could make that.
I wish we could get people to feel that way
without having to go through that stuff. And I think
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that's what you you you've kind of tried to say
as a message.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Am I right on that, Yes, sir, And that's kind
of you know, I think we can look at ways
and I'm not saying God use that to test me
and by any means, but I have learned through this,
you know. I you know, I'm onen eighteen as a
head football coach. You know that that that's fine. I've
seen the impact that that God has allowed me to
(10:27):
have and in twenty nine years of education and his
people and relationships and and and those types of things.
But it's it's one of those things, Chris, I had
to learn how to be vulnerable. And you know that's
and I say this too. I'm I'm far from being
a perfect Christian. But what I am open to is
listening to the Holy Spirit and listen to say, Okay,
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you know I put you in this position, I.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Can use you or you can you know, be bitter
and upset.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
And you know, and I'll be honest, you know, there
was there's some head football jobs that I've interviewed that
that I didn't get and I allowed myself to.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Be bitter about it.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
And you know, God didn't create us to be that way,
and He created us to use whatever circumstance that we're
put in to we can glorify him or or we
can be bitter about it and do those things. And
then there's times in my life that I've been that,
but I've learned through the years and grown spiritually. Just
that wasn't one of those times that, you know, when
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everything happened, it was my rallying to to help those
kids and to help the community. And obviously the hardest
part for me was walking away from that community. But
I knew for my own, you know, personal help, that
I didn't need to be a head football coach, not
this season. I'm not saying, you know where God leads me,
I don't know, but I knew that, and I knew
(11:50):
that I could try to allow God to use me
in this. Like I said, I spoke at the FCA
camp and it was awesome to speak in front of
a bunch of men, and there were guys that that
that came up to me, and if I can help
somebody through that, and like you said, you know, we
were taught you know, you know, I'm fifty three years old.
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This is my twenty ninth year and education that you
know we were taught Chris, I was that, you know,
by my dad.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
My dad was a godly man. But if there I
didn't he didn't grieve.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
I never saw him cry. You know, it was put
your big boy pants on and move on. And that's
one thing I learned through Christian counseling. One it's okay
to not be okay, but the two it's okay to
be vulnerable. I don't really care that people, you know, so, oh,
he's not a man's man.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
Well that's fine. I'm a guy, you know.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
As long as people know that I'm you know, serving
a mighty God and that I'm here to help people,
then then that's okay.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
If people say I'm not a man's man, well I.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Don't think anybody says that, coach, and I definitely don't
think anybody, well, nobody's saying that about you.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yes, I know what you've been through, what I'm trying
to get across and wondering.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
The one talked to you today was how I want
people to feel that way when they hadn't been through
something everybody knows about, you.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Then we've got to be a little more show a
little more grace, help each other. Coaching is becoming a
tough job for many reasons, but one of them should
not be the coaches aren't supporting the other coaches, whether
it's on the staff or even other staffs. Look, I
tried to beat up the team the other team. I
was trying to crush him on Friday night, but I
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did fill a kinship with him the rest of the time,
you know, And we need people to keep that. And
I think the way to keep that is to have
a little more honest dialogue sometimes about what people are
dealing with and not wait for something like you had
to deal with for people to say, well, that's a
tough guy right there. Well yeah, of course, but what
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about all you know, can we help everybody else too?
Can you use that platform to show those things? And
so I really admire the courage one just what you
had to deal with. I mean, I've told you that
already other time, sir. The courage of what you've had
to do is unbelievable. But I want to talk about
the future. So I want to talk more about the
courage of what you you're building with your testimony and
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your your message of what that can be for you.
And so yeah, I don't even know if there's a
question there. I'm just saying I appreciate it, Coach.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I do you know well, I mean you said something
though about you know, we want to beat each other.
But that's one of the things that I learned, you know,
And I can go through our region, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
You know Robert pats Hit.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
You know, obviously Pax and I are in the same region,
but you know the friendship that you that that you
bond with being in the same county.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
You know, Robert was always you know, he would check
on me.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
You know Benji Harrison, that have you know, another region guy,
you know, Corey Mobbs, you know David Perno, you know
all those guys.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
That they they you know they you know, even then when.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
We came back, they wanted to win the football game
for their kids, and our kids were trying to win
a football game. But those are guys that that I
have a great bond with, you know, because you know,
one we're in the same region together, and I got
a lot of respect for those guys.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
And you know relationships with them. You know guys. You
know Tommy Jones, you know another one.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
You know that that that's out there, and you know
that that I could, I could, you know, just keep going.
You know of people that you build relationships with, but
you know you want to beat.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Them on Friday night.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Kevin Reach and I were, you know, roommates back in
our single days and still good friends.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
But you know we're gonna play Monroe.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
You know, he he want to beat us, just like
I want to beat him. But you know, at the
end of the day, we're gonna check on each other
and we're gonna do those things.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
There's a good message there, coach, That's all I'm saying.
It's just a good message there. It's okay to try
to beat them up on the on the field, and
it's okay to love on them the rest of the time,
you know. And I just think you're a good You're
a good walking example of that, coach.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
So let's talk.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
About Loganville though, Loganville, we're gonna have a good team
this year, I hope.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
So I feel good, head coach, and I'm worded.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
You know a guy named Nick Snowdon Nick is a
guy that he actually you know, and when he first
started his teaching career, he had my own son. And
now my son is a senior. But you know, the
impact that Nick had on my child was was one
of those and then just getting to know him over
the years and you know, trying to work together.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
You know, now now I get to work for him,
and I'm excited about that.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
But there's a lot of great guys on that staff
and you know it's cool to connect with them and
watch you know, that program get, you know, continue to
build and you know, hopefully.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
We can have a good year. But we've got a
lot of good kids.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
And you know it's that room, that room of men
that you spend ninety percent of your time with. Excuse me,
we all get along and that's been the fun part
is just and you know the other part, Chris, and
I'm not having to answer nine thousand emails and I'm
not having to you know, answer phone. I talked to
a guy that today that was a new teacher orientation
as the head coach for a long time, and he goes,
(16:57):
you know, my role is just moving the chains and
I ain't got to worry about all.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Other stuff that's right.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's people say some variation of the same thing to
me when they've been a head coach, and then they
go back helping somebody else. You know, it's like it's
weird when you don't make the schedule. To some degree,
I guess that's maybe the only difference. But because they
but they all say, look, it's great and and it's
universal that they feel like they can help better. They
actually feel like they're a better assistant coach than they
(17:22):
were when they were at the time before.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
But there is some power. Never mistake there's some power.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
And somebody ask somebody's mama asked something, and you say, he,
I don't know, you don't need to talk to me.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
See that guy over there, that's the guy you need
to talk to. Something to be said for that, right coach?
Speaker 1 (17:39):
What what have you? What do you think you can offer?
So I think a lot of people are in this situation.
A lot of people have been in your other situation.
This situation you see often where somebody's a head coach
for whatever reason, they're doing something different this year they're
an assistant coach.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
How does it change your perspective a little bit?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
That it changes my perspective because it's not going to
change me from the fact for that I'm a head
coach or I'm the if I'm the lowest ninth grade coaches,
I got to you know, you've still got a bill
relationship with kids, and I think you've got to build
relationship with those coaches. And I'm on, you know, I'm
not above picking up a broom and sweeping the floor.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Right now. My my duty is laundry duty.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
This week, and you know, I'm having to do laundry
and you know, those are things that I still did
as a head coach. But that's one thing is showing
this younger generation of coaches that and there are some
that get it and some that don't. Hopefully those younger
It's okay to pick up a broom, it's okay trash,
and it's okay.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
To do any duty.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
And that's what I you know, try to tell these
young guys that I work with, is you know, be coachable.
But also, you know, don't be thinking. You know, whatever
title you hold, you're not too big to do any.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Job that's needed to help the football program.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Absolutely, coach, and it's okay to lead by example and
I'd like to say, because it's easy to get on
the young coaches. You know, it's easy to say these
young coaches, don't this when you're old like us. It's
easy to do.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
But we we have a responsibility that too.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And I appreciate you saying that because I think it's
easy to say they need to be better at picking
up a broom, but I will say we need to
be leading by example, showing them how to be vulnerable,
showing them how to pick up a broom, showing them
how to love on kids, but also coach them hard, like.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Or have we failed some of these young coaches?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Now?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I hope maybe not you, But I mean we as
a collective group of people in our late forties to sixties,
have we done a great job of leading by example always?
Speaker 5 (19:41):
You know?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And I think that's what we got to do, right. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
And then that's talking to some of these new guys
that I'm working with, is you know, some of these
old heads like we are, there's guys that think they're
too good to do things too, and they're like, well, coach,
I worked with a guy and he will all he
want to do is sit in the chair and you know,
be the first one out and you know he want
and being an example either And that's one thing that
you know, I enjoy and sitting at I was talking
(20:07):
one of one of the guys the other day, it's
it's good, you know, good to just come back and
sit in the coach's.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Office and hang out.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Absolutely, people don't do that some people, and I get it.
Everybody wants to get home, but that's where you build
relationships and just sitting in that coach's office during your
planning period, hanging out with other coaches, or you know,
sitting for a minute after practice where you run home,
just just talking.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Absolutely, g that's actually one of the things you miss.
I mean, I miss readship with the kids, and you
miss the coaches camaraderie. You don't, I don't really look
I don't really miss coaching on Friday night.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I really do.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I know some people say they miss that. I don't
miss a lot of it, but I do miss that.
You know, when you don't have that, you'll miss it.
And I appreciate coach. I'm looking forward to following you guys.
New coaching staff at Loganville, and I have a good
you know, building something there and I appreciate you taking
some time to talk to me because I feel like
(21:01):
that message is important. And I just appreciate your example
and I'm looking forward to finding you the rest of
the way through your career.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Coach, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
But if anything, I can leave you with Chris or
leave anybody that you know, if you're struggling and anything,
you know, I'm here. You know, people can reach out
to me. You've got my number of somebody you need
to pass it along. You don't have to ask me.
And if any way I can help somebody, you know,
learn to grieve or or just pray with them or
just you know, just listen and I you know, I
(21:30):
appreciate you let me come on and do it. And always,
you know, I think you know, like I said, you
and I've talked multiple times, but I do appreciate you
let me heard. But understand that you know, as coaches,
we need each other. And he said, you need to
check on your people. And hopefully somebody listens to this today.
I need to check on coach so and so. But
you know, just just check on your people. We work,
(21:52):
we work too hard, and we build relationships. But oftentimes
that I'm the worst at getting back with people. But
we need to check on our people and make sure
we're reaching out and staying in touch and just saying, hey, man,
how you doing, and just be honest with somebody if
you're not.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yes, sir, well, I appreciate you taking your time, coach,
Coach Mike Hancock.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
The man. If I can help you anyway, really let
me know anytime.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
All right, I appreciate it, Chris, thank you for having
me on.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Take care, Yes, sir, all right, guys, I'm glad y'all
got here that.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I'm glad you got a chance to hear Coach Hancock. Obviously,
none of us can put ourselves in his shoes. We
try to as leaders, try to put yourself in people's
shoes campushiping issues.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
But we can be supportive.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
You learn from that, and I hope people got something
out of that, but you know, really good to talk
to them. So, guys, I said, when we got done
with that, we'd be back to cracking joke. So here's
Flats Opportunity, brought to you by Coastal Sports Turf, the
official sports turf people of this podcast.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I mean that's sponsoring. Even after you kicked me off.
They kept the sponsorship in place.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Well, it's an annual thing, so I'm thinking that they
may be gone after this year.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
But the show, well they're not paying for y'all.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
In lieu of that, let's uh, let's kick off another
twenty five twenty six school year.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
First ever flats favorites. What you got?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, you know that summer. Summer was awesome. Summer was awesome.
Got to go to Colorado, to Colorado.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Like Denver area and Michael Drug We listened together. We
went together in a car with her mom and dad.
It was a and when I say a car, I
mean a car SUV, not a truck, not a yeah,
like in nineteen ninety one or something, I don't know,
(24:01):
a long time.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Yeah. After that, I feel like you were in high school.
I think it was like you were like either going
in the ninth grade or something.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
So your experience was not as good as mine. I
can already tell on this front at the moment.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
So if I was going to ninth grade, Michael was
going to sixth grade, and he's like, he's like laying
on me the whole way.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
We drove there in twenty four hours. We did not.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And by the way, that would have been like ninety
two or nine three. Michael, you getting your years to stop?
But did you wear the pens?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
What hell?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
We all do it? I mean, we just go to
the bathroom. Okay, They like they drove all day. We
didn't stop at a hotel. We just drove. Like listen,
we didn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I was going to the ninth grade. I was trying
to I was well back then you didn't have a
phone or nothing. But I was trying to do stuff
other than go in the car to Colorado with my mom,
dad and Michael.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Okay, I don't apologize for that. I probably didn't have
the best st attitude, but he did not. I can
probably probably didn't. I mean, you know that. So this
was a different time.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Okay, But yeah, so we stole your segment because you
didn't even know we were going to say that. But yes,
we have been to Colorado, but I don't know that
I've been to Colorado since.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Have a Michael, is that the only time we've been.
I went one more time, but you didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So maybe I'll go back sometime and I'll make elliet
and then pay attention and have a good attitude.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
And it won't be the same. They'll have their iPads,
it won't be the same. Yeah, it's not the same.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Me and Michael think about it. We had no technology
for the young because a lot of young coach listening
to this. I don't know why, but they do. But
if you're a young coach and you're thinking, it's nineteen
ninety two, we have no technology. Okay, I can't like
text my friends back home, a girlfriend, you can't get
on Instagram. It's just me and little sixth grade Michael
(25:50):
in the back of the seat of a car for
hours I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
I think it was like twenty four straight hours.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I mean it had to have been one hundred hours
total in the trip. And there's nothing to do. I
mean there's not even like a damn. I don't think
it was a CD player back then. We might have
had to take like a water.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
We might Did you have the mixtapes made you can
listen to?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Did we have a walkman?
Speaker 5 (26:19):
I don't remember, surely, but surely I had a walkman.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I kind of Michael just like Lane on the like
Lane do.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Because you know, nobody wore a seat belt either, so
the something he's not even sitting in his seat.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
That was a bad experience in Colorado. Tell us about
a good one, Chad.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
It was great the girls soccer team back in January.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I think we talked about at one point qualified for
nationals out there with their club teams.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
It was cool. So didn't play as well.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
As they could have, as unfortunate that got one really
good win out of the tournament. But we're just a
cool experien It's got the They played at Dick Sporting
Goods Park, which is where the Colorado Rapids play, and
a lot of the guys on here probably don't know
much about MLS or soccer or anything like that, but
but a super cool venue with thirty plus full sized
(27:15):
soccer fields around the MLS stadium and Denver's just got
such a cool setup right there where there's neighborhoods all
around the stadium so you can just walk to the
stadium right there. It's a very cool setup. It was.
It was awesome. So it was really cool to see
him playing with the Rocky mountains in the background and stuff.
(27:35):
Just totally neat experience. That was definitely the favorite trip
Mannings of the summer.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
So I'm glad.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
The backseat truck with Michael to games for multiple years,
and that shit was bad enough. I can't imagine four
hours going to Denver with him in the back of
a car.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
As much as he complains, Yeah, I was enjoying.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I will self report now for our whole lives, Michael
was complaining way more than me.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
But I did that trip. But on that trip, I
got it. Okay, I probably complained way more than he did.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I will self report. Like I said, I was probably
fourteen or something like. I was not in a place where,
you know, I needed to be in the car with
my little brother for one hundred hours over two weeks.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
But we made it work. Yeah, we went into good headspace. Yeah,
we made it back. We watched it.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I think it was like the Rockies were starting to
team then, so maybe ninety three. It's like the one
the first Year's the first year the Rockies had a team.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I mean there was a it was, it was. There
was some there was some highlights, you know, but.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
We went with a lot of bitch in between my
high stadium, so I do, yeah, like the football stadium.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Yeah, they played at my high stadium.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Okay, Yeah, we went to a Rockies game while we're
that's a cool stadium.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
It was a nice place. Yeah, they're not good at
baseball this.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Oh God, know that they were on pace like a
major league record for losses.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
They still may be. That's how much I know about
that baseball. That was back in July. So who knows
what's happened. They might.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
For all you know, Flat doesn't care about baseball this year.
You know why because the Braves.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Braves are not good. Yeah. Flat liked baseball in twenty
twenty one. He had one good year of being all
of them the whole time. Yea season.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
As soon as they got in the playoffs from getting closed,
I paid a little bit of attention to it.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
So they get back there, I'll watch again.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, at least he's honest. I'm worried if his fandom
of Alabama is gonna wigne now that coach Saban's He's
never known a coach other than coach Saban, you know,
so I.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Know it make life hard. Yeah, all right, Well we're back.
We'll see if Chad can be here next week. See,
I'm gonna listen.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I'm gonna go out on them and say you probably
will be, but you come back and see
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