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Hey everybody, welcome back to the Parker Resources Pod chest
I am Michael Parker. George is always by Chris Parker
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Please be joined at this time by the athletic director
at Savannah, Christian Greg Phillips. Coach.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Thanks for joining me, coach, thanks for having me on.
This is an honor.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I appreciate it. Yeah, excited to talk to you a
little bit and about what you guys do and your
path and you know, any advice you have for people
trying to get into this. So what's great about being
an athletic director is you can influence other athletic directors and
you can influence other coaches. So we're gonna talk a
little bit about both of those, and before we do
anybody doesn't know your is not familiar with you, te
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us a little bit how you got the Savannah Christians
athletic director. Tell me about your path to getting that job.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, So out of college, I knew I wanted to
engage in coaching and be around helping kids and being
involved developing kids as they as they grow, and so
started off at Darlington, which is where I graduated from,
and was there for a couple of years and got
a call one day to look at an opportunity at
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Mount Pern Christian School in Kennesaw. Mitch Jordan, who coached
me when I was in high school, was the athletic
director there, and so went there. Was there for ten years,
did a variety of things from eighth grade history for
the longest time, did some summer camp directing, helped with
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high school football, and then was fortunate enough to be
named the head boys basketball coach a few years in
my time there, so I was doing that in football,
and so we were there for ten years, and then
you know, as I was there, started looking into some
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opportunities in athletic administration, which is kind of where I
wanted to where I wanted to end up, and had
an opportunity at a place called Christian Heritage up in Dalton.
Was assistant ad there and actually coached girls basketball. Was
my first time coaching girls in that capacity, and we
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were happy there. We loved being in Dalton, much different
than Atlanta. And when we were there, about six months
into the the job, I got a phone call from
a mentor and he said, you need to need to
look into this, this job at Savannah Christian. And I said, no,
we're good. My wife will kill me if we move again,
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so let's let's stay put. And he's like, no, you
need to do it. And I respected I respected him,
and so we looked into it, and you know it
was it was definitely a god thing, uh that he
put us in Savannah at Savannah Christian. And now we're
entering our third year as as the director of athletics.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, coach, and he has had a lot of success.
You got a good team down there. Actually came down
there and saw your team and saw the place a
beautiful place. You got some good coach and some good
people man working down there. So what let's let's say this, say,
coach basketball, boys, girls, coach football. What did you What's
maybe something that is different in the eight job than
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what you thought it would be when you got in.
So you kind of prepare for this. You're coaching some
other sports, you know a little bit about leading coaches.
You get the job. Now what's way different? Hm?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Well, you know, I think being an assistant coach is
kind of the same thing. You feel like as the
assistant you know all the answers that the head coach
doesn't know, and when you're not the a D you
feel like you got all the answers and then you
get there and you really don't have any of them. Uh,
And you rely on people that have have either been
there or know the know the place very well and
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seek wisdom and guidance from those people. So I would say,
you know, when you teach and coach, you you manage kids.
Managing adults can be difficult, especially and maybe this is
an excuse, I don't know, but I'm a little bit younger,
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and so managing people that might be older than you
and they're maybe setting their ways or they've done things
a certain way for a long time, that can be difficult.
And I think you've got to have an established relationship
to be able to entrust for them to be able
to follow you and understand your vision for where you're going.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Oh J, I don't most questions I ask on the podcast,
I would argue most time there's not a right answer.
There is sometimes a wrong answer. By the way, there's
not always a right answer, you know, something like what's
different or what do you notice? Or But I'm gonna
be honest with you that question maybe as close to
having a right answer as possible, and you gave it.
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Which is the thing if you go from assist coach
to head coach or even from head coach a d
it's the managing of the adults. I don't know that
it's fair to say that people don't know it, because
I think people do know they have to do that.
But the level at which and the level of skill
you need, and I'll even give you this one, I
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don't know that. I mean, yes, it matters every stage
of life, if they're older or younger, or male or female,
or what experience they have, or what sport they coach.
But I'm gonna be honest with you, even when you're older,
still hard managing the adults, sure, and just managing so
many different moving parts in the adults is what determines success,
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and actually especially in head coaches. So if you're talking
to your head coaches any sport, they got that job
because they were a good teacher of kids, so good
with kids, they know sport, that's why you hired them.
It'll actually be their ability to handle the adults that
will determine if they're good at that job or not.
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It won't be their ability to scheme it up like
they think, although that will matter, but it won't be
the thing to say operates them. And it won't be
their ability to take care of kids and build relationships kids,
because we know they can do that. That's how they
got the job. So I know I'm on a rant here,
but that's I do think it's one of the few
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questions that there may be as close to a right
answer as possible. And it's like nobody gets these leader
role the next roll up quite fully understanding the adult relationships,
and you know, and the head coaches that you hire
no different there. So when you hire a head coach,
that head coach needs to be able to work with
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the other head coaches, any parents, and work the administrators.
All those adult relationships are going to probably determine more
of their success because we know they can handle the kids. Sure,
So what have you found? So I guess with that
being said, and as I'm giving that long soliloquy, what
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comes to mind on some advice on how to manage
that better? Or what have you learned? Well?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I've learned that there are people much wiser that have
been through similar situations. Uh that I there's a I
have a laundry list of people that I'll call when
I need advice, and they probably cringe when they see
my number on their phone. But when when I am
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am trying to deal with people, I try to as
much as I can put myself in their shoes. Uh.
But you know, also you know understand their path, where
they've come from, what they've been used to.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And and change is hard for people. UH doesn't matter
how old you are. Change is hard. And so you know,
being able to share a mission and a vision and
where we're going or where we want to be, and
how I see that person helping us and and and
being of benefit to us and their program as we
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grow and develop.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
And you know, not everybody is going to always agree
or like what you do, but you do need and
value their support and and I think you got to
figure out that person's personality and how you navigate that
and how you get there with them. Uh, And for
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some people it'll take longer with some people than it
does others. Some people are immediately with you and and
and easily on board, and then others, you know, you
got to work at it a little bit, a little
bit more. But I think it's a it's an ongoing
process and if anybody figures it out, I would love
the I would love the report on that.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, if anybody figures it out, they're gonna have a
lot of money. Because the key is that you don't know.
It's constantly evolving. But I do think there's some buckets
that people can focus on, you know what I mean, Like,
you can be a better communicator, you can build relationships
better with the center, you know, you can get more organized,
you can work it relaying your vision better, you can
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work it being leading by example, setting the tone. You know,
there's there's some kind of buckets you can say, how
I'm a little better here than I am there, and
I need to get a little better here. But you're
going to retire not feeling like you know all those answers,
you know, so you guy got to accept that, but
you keep reaching for it and you try to get there. So,
what's something exciting going on to Savannah Christian? Like, what's
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something that's maybe new or anything you want to brag
on them? You guys done some really good things the
last few years. So what's something that really pops for
you guys right now? What's what's an initiative you're working on?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, I mean, we've got a lot of great coaches,
a lot of a lot of good programs trending in
the right direction and continuing to improve. Our coaches work
really hard to make their program the best that they can,
and they do a good job investing in these kids
and and for our sake for an eternal for an
eternal purpose, right as a Christian school. And you see
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that day in and day out, And that's that's always
exciting to me. You know a couple of things that
we're working on. We are working on a work on it,
a next level board, next level Raiders and so all
of our kids. School's been around since nineteen fifty one,
so all of our kids that have gone on and
played at the next level We've got about two hundred
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and eighty kids that we've some of them are from
the seventies, so they're not kids, but they at some
point they were and they've they've gone on and played
at the college level. So we're going to put a
board up in our outside our gym to recognize those kids.
We recently this past year, we inducted our first Hall
of Fame class, So we inducted six people into our
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initial or inaugural Hall of Fame. So just you know,
things like that, trying to find ways to recognize alumni
and get people excited and bring people back. But obviously,
you know, it's it's July. Football's football is full go
and and they're they're looking to to make a run
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at this thing again. They've been been very successful, uh
the last few years and looking to do that. And
our volleyball team softball, you know, it goes down the line, right,
they're all out there working and it's it's fun. It's
just fun to see the kids, you know, working out
and practicing and getting ready, uh in the summer as
they prepare to compete in.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
A few weeks. Yeah, it's it's it's right here fall sports.
You know right starting early, Uh, the football pro has
been great. Coaches do a great job down there. It's
really exciting to follow them. But I was impressed with
all you coaches. I really was in the work that
they put in. And you know, I know most you're
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experiencing private schools, so but talk that most my experience
in public school. So talk to me about maybe the
different challenges that your coach. You don't have to talk
about football, I mean we can, but I'm talking about
all sports. So, like, what I notice when I go places,
like when I come to see you guys, is actually
there's less help. Sometimes there's less ability to really get
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some things done in the building to help. And I'm
talking about maybe softball or tennis or golf or you
know what I mean. Sure, but there's maybe more, there's
a lot more depending on the place, there's more support
maybe the community and things like that. But the building,
you guys have maybe sometimes more stringent rules and things
that may limit you to some degree on some things
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that maybe your public school competitor is able to do.
But then you guys have advantages too. So but walk
me through anything that I don't understand about. If I
decide to come. I coach softball now, but I'm at
a public school. I'm gonname take the job at Savannah Christian. Like,
what's gonna be a little different for me? Great question?
(16:01):
But do you understand what I'm asking? Like when we
educate some folks on maybe what they don't understand. And
I'm not talking about players and kids coming from where
I'm talking about how you're able to support a coach
versus me as the idea at the public school. How
am I able to support a coach? I think they're
slightly different, both good, both effective, but maybe slightly different.
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Am I right on that? Or no? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:25):
I mean I haven't. I haven't done a lot of
work in the public school world, and so I don't
you know, Yeah, I hear from people and things like that,
but I'll take a shot at it. And uh, well,
you know, I think we do have a lot of
support from our families. Uh And and we have parents
that are willing to help coach and and be involved,
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that have a lot of knowledge. We got a we
got a football coach that that Keith Brooking that played
in the NFL and he helps and things like that
are very very beneficial and helpful and but you know,
we also sometimes it is maybe a little bit harder
for us to find coaches because you know, if you've
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got a teacher that's been in the public school and
they're already invested in the the trs or whatnot, it's
hard to maybe pull them away from that and get
them to I guess stop that or whatnot. But you know,
we have a we have a good number of community coaches.
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I don't know how that is for public schools, but
we we rely on a good number of community coaches
because you know, we have, like most schools probably we've
we've got, you know, twenty six different programs, right, and
so filling those plus middle school becomes a large, large task.
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So our community coaches or late coaches are very beneficial
and helpful, and they you know, we we try to
take them through a process of hey, this is this
is what we expect out of you, whether you're a
parent or just somebody that wants to help. You know,
at the end of the day, our goal is to
show these kids Christ and we need you to invest
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in the mission and vision of what we're trying to do.
And so you know that that's that's kind of where
we are. I don't know if that answers your question.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, I try to exactly what I was thinking about
the coaching thing, Yeah, you know, I mean, I guess
you know. My initial thought was just let's educate some
people on some misconceptions. But I don't when I'm not
getting in the weeds on what we like or don't
like about private versus public playoffs or I don't want
to talk about that. I mean, we can, but I
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mean it's probably more people listen, but I don't know
if we make any you know, if it would be
I don't I don't really know if I even have
an opinion on that, And because I just happened as
involved in the last few years, so I really don't
have a fair opinion. I know there's some strong points
on both sides, but I don't want to talk about that.
I want to talk about like just in generalist there.
I think the TRS thing is a thing like you
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are limited on who you can I had a coach
I'm not going to say where, but I did have
an athlete director at a private school. Not you reach
out to me, want me to help them a little
bit with like a couple of football options. They had
a football opening. Hey, you know it was it was interesting.
It was limiting. It was limiting, you know, even people
that were interested. When you got a little further along
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in the process, it just couldn't do it. You know,
you kind of had to be retired and I don't
want the place really wanted a retiree. Or you had
to be pretty young because you had to be willing
to get out of that something that you know, I
just really think of, I guess at the time. And
then you know, I also talked about like highnesses. Like
I said, it's more likely you have a head coach
and like four or five assistants that are all community
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coaches in a sport, whereas in an I Covit school.
That may be true for some, but I think for
most they're getting certified teachers, find them a spot, put
them out there up one community coach, you know, two
community coaches.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I would say that's fair. We are head of school
has done a very good job of just in a
short period of time. You know, if a position comes open,
you know, finding a teacher and coach, uh and not
just saying all right, well, we're just going to hire
this teacher because you know they're the best teacher. No,
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we're going to hire the best teacher and coach and
they're going to get plugged into one or two different sports.
Because you know, people can argue whatever they want, but
even the parent or the coach that's been invested in
Savannah Christian their whole life, if you're not in it
eight hours a day with the kids as a teacher,
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it's hard. Different too, it's hard to assimilate to that
culture in two hours at practice.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
And so that's what I was saying, Yeah, I just
I saw your coaches, and it's not just your school,
but I did see them, and I think they're carrying
a tiny bit more of the load, is what I'm
trying to say. The head coach, the one that is
working directly for you, that's there all day. And I
think that's probably true. More so there now they also
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in some advantages. And I said there is a lot
of support through the families and things like that. I'm
not trying to sugarcoat that. I'm just saying it's a
little bit different. So what is what you can even
plead the fifth on this fuel, really you can, But
what is a misconception. It's maybe one of things we
can tell them, like what's what's a misuse? It's something
that you that private school coach or athletic director wishes
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the public school person understood. You understand what I'm saying, Like,
what's the misconception of? Like you get so tired of
hearing blank because it's not true?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Do you should I say the R word?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
You don't even have to talk about that, But I mean,
what's just something that you think? You know, people would
come here and work for two or three months, they'd
have a little different perspective on because I can say
some stuff about my job is this a superintendent? Or
my job is you know? Other like people just so
they're trying to really get just into that. But I
do feel like it's easy to say, oh, we're playing them.
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Look at all those guys. They've got it made. It's
easy for them, you know. And I'm giving you that
question because I'm saying I haven't seen that to be
always true. Like I think guys are working their butts
off to have good teams, you know, and so when
you put yourself in some people's shoes, you have a
little different attitude sometimes, so again, you don't have to
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you complete the fifth. I just want people to think
before they start saying stuff that they may not quite understand.
I think.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I would say they on what I've seen, public school,
private school, all the kids work hard. I think sometimes it's, uh,
well they you know, they've got it made, or they're
you know, they can just show up and play, or
you know they've got the best players or whatnot. Well,
I think I think all of all the schools and
all the teams and all the kids and coaches are
working hard and doing the best that they can with
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what they got. And you know, it's it's a competitive
environment and you know, right wrong or in different kids
are bouncing around, moving and moving to different places. Uh,
and that that is what it is. But you know,
I think I think all schools and all programs are
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investing and doing the best with their coaches and their
players to be the best that they can when they compete,
you know, in their in their specific sports.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, I think so too. And I mean they're like, look,
I appreciate the candidness, by the way, and and there's
there's obviously some of the vantages and disadvantage for both.
I mean, we don't have to like surecoat that, but
I just wanted to shine a light on I watched
you guys, I saw it. I watched some people that
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are good people getting after people that are struggling at times.
They're not all it's not always going their way. It's
not you know, and it's just so easy to assume
it is. And I think vice versa. There's I haven't
been connected enough recently to give you the other side,
but there's some public school people that would want to say, well,
the thing we wish they understood was that, right. So
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the dialogue, which we have been kind of scared to have,
in my opinion, is probably where some of the disconnect is.
And because of the TRS thing which we mentioned, you
don't see enough people crossing over to teach the other
side what to do, you know what I mean. Once
you've been in your career a while in privaate school
got stay privat school. When's been career pulic school, got
stay in polic school, So you don't see as much
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crossover for people to come on your staff from the
other side and say, oh, well, well, you guys don't
even understand.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
This is what and and if they do it's usually
the you know, the forty nine percent or whatnot. And
and there's some of those people that are that are
go getters. Uh. But but when you're hiring through the process,
you wonder are they for us? Are they just trying
to get by the beach? Are they gonna you know,
get get their feet dirty and their hands dirty and
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in the process. And so you know, we when we
hire back to that, we we have a lot of
young people and then we have people that are, you know,
twenty thirty year veterans out of the public school system
and and they're willing to work for you know, for
for forty nine, you know, forty nine percenter. And and
that's tricky, right do you hire the young kid that
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is still very green or the older the older person
that's very knowledgeable, But how long are they there? And
so anyway, I don't want to keep going on that, but.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
It's typically a mix, right, I mean, what you're looking
for is a mix of that. The young guys are
gonna be run a while the veterans. The answer is both,
Like always, the answer is yes both. Maybe you know, now, coach,
I appreciate I appreciate the talk. I really do so
what's something you know? You are a younger a D
and I think that's cool. So there's a lot of
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peop that want to be the ad What advice do
you have for and be doing right now? Like we
advice I mean my private public on that. I mean,
somebody wants to be in your job. What should they
be doing right now? Just learn?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Do things? You know your supervisor or your administrator says, hey,
can you help me with this? Can you be the
team lead for this grade level? If you're a teacher,
can you help me with a couple of projects I'm
working on? Uh, and ask questions. I mean I said earlier,
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people cringe when my number shows up. But I call
people all the time. I don't know much and I
call people and get answers or get at least guidance,
and then try to figure out where we want to
go and try to tailor it to what we're doing.
But you know, be willing to learn. There's there's you know,
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everybody knows about the nile A stuff and the classes.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
And you know, just just.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Being willing to put yourself out there. And I think, look,
I think engaging and coaching and opportunities like that that
that's only going to help. But at the end of
the day, as much administrative training as you can get,
because as we said earlier, I tell the coaches all
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the time you get to coach about ten percent of
the time. The other ninety percent as a head coach
is doing administrative work dealing with parents and managing a
budget and YadA YadA. So as much experience says you
can get doing those types of things, UH, is going
to benefit long term when when you do get in
an administrative role, whether it's a D principle whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
So you know, and like I said earlier, being being
willing to lean on people like people like you and
and others that are willing to just share and and
give guidance and information. Uh, it's very beneficial to people
like me and and others just being able to pick
up the phone and say, hey, what do you think?
So that's how you learn his experience and so finding
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ways to get those experiences.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Well, I appreciate you talk to man and you call
me anytime. I don't know if I can help you anymore,
you you pass me, but if I can, you call me.
I really I'm a fan. I really enjoyed I really
respect your coaches. Thought they were really really some good
folks that got after cared about kids. If I can
help you guys anyway, man, you let me know, appreciate
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you taking some time to talk to me.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Thanks a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
They care appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
You know. I did work at the private school for
a little while.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
You know, I went and took that job, and I
thought my wife and I are actually going to move
out of state, so I wasn't really worried about trs
and all that other stuff, which kind of throw a
wrench in now my retirement plans now that I've been back.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
For a long time.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
But it is it is a very different world in
a lot of ways. I think coach kind of spoke
directly to that and some of the things that didn't
come through clearly, it's a lot of the problems you
have and obviously in public school aren't there. But there's
a lot of other weird problems that persist in private schools.
And the one that I worked at was probably an
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anomaly in its own different ways of issues and positives too.
So it's different, you know, It's it's a good experience
for people if they ever want to go try something
that that has a whole different.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Feel to it. It's a it's a it's a different
thing though. Yeah, it is an I mention the t
as that you know her and coach is a little
different because you got to get them at the gate,
or you got to get them at the end, or
you know, like there's some stuff there and stuff you
hadn't thought of. So I, you know, I My thing is,
it's easy to say when we're not coaching right, it's
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easy to not have a team and walk the fence.
And but you know, I really enjoyed my relationship with
the private schools. I really enjoyed relationship public schools. I
think sometimes there's a little bit of misunderstanding on both
sides there or where the issues are. But I really
appreciate coach being pretty candid about some of that. I mean,
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he could dodge some of them questions, he didn't, and
I appreciate that. So Savannah Christian in good hands. I
got a lot of good coaches. Like I said, I
worked with him last year a little bit, and I
was really impressed with those guys. One day, the flat's
favorite's going to be you telling the story about how
you couldn't stand Michael, you know, try to tell me
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what to do in the equipment room that day. I
had to, like.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Contantbody had to tell you what to do.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I had to constantly part of being the head coaches
dealing with all these different dynamics, including people like Michael
and Chading.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I thought that Chris Hire some jackass that didn't know
how to keep the equipment room in order.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, Michael is always most new coaches a favorite person
to be around. He's one of them guys. He's like
an acquired taste. He's like one of those Guinness beers,
you know, like what you know what it is, and
you drink them a lot. It's pretty good, but if
you're not used to it, it's an acquired taste. You know.
That would be Michael. Is that is that where you go?
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Maybe one of your other flat's favorites can be us
as beers because you like beers so much. Michael guns like,
I think I'm whatever, the best beer is, whatever that is.
I don't know, you're more truly, I think, actually, yeah,
I'm cute. I'm cute. Yeah that's right. I got all right,
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So what you got this week brought to you by
Cold Support Turf Flat's Favorites. Flat we are. Now let
me give this to you. Hanging there, I want to
tell you something. We are sitting home, okay, right now,
we are sitting on August fifteenth. College football is up
soon he Kell's happening. The Titans will lose some games games.
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So what's a Flat favorite?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I mean you know that I'm a diehard Braves fan.
We've talked about this before and how much tell.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Them to you established your Braves fan. I just want to.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Make sure y'all understand that in the past twelve months
the Braves have won as many games in Tennessee as
the Titans have. That's one, one a piece right there.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
That was the favorite statistic I have in last week
that I got. That's all I got going right now.
Maybe we'll have two before the year ends. Maybe is
Bristol in Tennessee or Virginia? This is right, This is
on the line split.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
The stadium city, the city is spl.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Okay, so it does count. They officially have the same
number of wins as the Titans. As the Titans and
there's not baseball team in Tennessee, so for those of
it there's not even a major League baseball team in Tennessee,
and the Braves are still won the same number. The
Titans are in danger of winning the same number of
games that me and you win this year in Tennessee.
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If you know what I mean, they are not They're
in danger of that. They are not gonna be good. Chad,
are you mainly prepared for this? I think it all.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
You know, my heart was broken and ripped out when
when they traded A J. Brown everything started started started
to change for me, and they just crushed my spirit.
I don't have much fight left in me when it
comes to them right now. I just I just, you know,
I just grint and take it all I do.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
But that's when they're gonna get your little hope. They're
gonna win to a tight get your little Ward might
do something fun and get a little hope, and then
it'll all he'll tear both his acls or something. It'll
all be overwhelmed. You know. Serious talk for a second,
is cam Ward the absolute least talked about overall number
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one pick quarterback of all time? Like I mean, nobody,
I don't really Maybe I shouldn't say this, but I
one watching like like a ton of sports talk stuff,
but I just don't hear anything about them, Like the
number one overall pick and it's a quarterback, sometimes it's
the number one. I remember when year the Chiefs picked
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a tackle or something, maybe ten or twelve years agether, Yeah,
and I mean you you didn't hear much about that, right,
But I mean that's kind of to be expected. He
wasn't Orlando Pace or something like that. Then you just
kind of okay, But a quarterback, I've never seen anybody
pick a quarterback first overall and it just be like,
no talk about it, like I mean, so, I don't
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know if that's a testament. Maybe it might actually be
a good thing. Chad honestly because I kind of like
him Ward actually because I think he just doesn't care
about it like that, and he just I think he's
just kind of a guy that just he's word, he's working,
and he's got that.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Flashy He's definitely less talked about than than the Sanders boy.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Definitely talk about and some of that's to be expected, sure,
but because you know Dion and all that.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
But that Ovisional game to the Bengals back in uh
twenty one, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
That was you were worried about the Braves. I think
it was the same year the Braves. One was, Yeah,
I was you put too much of your energy in
the Brave. Yeah, you were too fused on the I
hurt the Titans. All right, So this is what we're
doing on our way out. Okay, you're ready, Michael. And
I didn't tell y'all we were doing this, so there's
no prep work here. You gotta pick because I can't
guarantee FLAT will be here next week. Okay, so college
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football is still like maybe two weekends away, and I
can't guarantee I'll be here before then, so you gotta
tell me. I might die. Who knows things? Do? You
got to say stuff like that? I just mean you
might be sorry asked and not show up. You got
to tell me who you got winning the SEC, who
you got winning the national championship in college and then
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give me two teams in the Super Bowl, because I
can't wait till football season and start to get Chad back.
So like I'm giving you something. I'll even go first,
so y'all can think about it. Okay. Yeah, and I
put no thought into this either, as you'll probably be
able to tell by my answers. But there's no scenario,
no scenario where I can say anybody with Alabama's going
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sec even if I don't know if they will. So
I'm not giving anybody else that attention. But I will
tell you who's probably gonna be sneaky good, and I
don't love it is Lsu. I hope I'm wrong, but
I think Auburn might be all right. You know, Texas
and Georgia and those teams are all I mean, they're
going to be the teams to be right with Alabama.
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But I'm opt I'm costiously optimistic about Alabama. This is
the hardest thing to do now because the roster has
changed so much. You're not making an educated prediction. We're
literally talking out of our ass. Okay, So so if
I'm talking out of my ass, I got to pick Alabama.
But I do think Alabama has most everybody back on defense.
If the quarterback is okay at Alabama and if the
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quarterback is okay at Georgia, those will be the best
two teams. People are assuming Arts Manning, but if his
name is Ars Johnson, would they be that excited? I
don't know. But Texas does have a freaking good football
team all twenty two positions. So Texas, Georgia, Alabama batling out,
but maybe LSU in the mix. But then LSU comes
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Tuscaloosa in Alabama like they normally do the LSU, they
just kind of pat them down and knock them out
of that race. And then maybe that's the championship game
and then we'll see national Championship. I don't know. You
know what's it interesting is when a the SEC doesn't
even help you. No this what's weird about this stuff.
So it's most likely somebody, like it's possible that a
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team like Texas or Georgia or somebody that maybe doesn't
win the SEC wins the Nice Championship. You know, I
would prefer Alabama, I guess when the Naste Championship and
lose the SEC. But because of that and the talent
has spread out, we gotta be fair. I'm gonna say Oregon,
no freaking idea. Why But I say Oregon because I
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know they got some players wins the Nice Championship, and
if they win it, I'm gonna say I told you so,
even though no freaking idea. Why can't even know if
I could name a player on Oregon scene, but I
don't want to say Ohio State. I'm trying not just
bick Calibama. So in the Super Bowl, it's easy to
pick Philadelphia because they just want it and they do.
Got most everybody back, and they got a ton of
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Georgia and Alabama guys, which smart drafting. So I'm going
with the Detroit Lions because I like Dan Campbell for like,
they got disappointed last year and just shit together and
come back. They got both coordinators gone. I do know that,
and that can hurt you, but I'm gonna have to
go with them anyway. Philadelphia and Detroit in the NFC
Championship Game. Detroit the underdog in Philadelphia now they're not
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the big team, and get through so harder your form
get through the Bowl and the AFC. I'm gonna make
a prediction in honor of my little brother who had
to ride for who I had to ride for twenty
four hours with, and I'm gonna say this year it's great.
Finally the year and the Bills not only make the
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beat the Chiefs in the FC Championship Game, which they
never do, and beat the Lions for their first ever
Bill's Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
That was literally my pick the Lions was it really is?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
That was literally I.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Was gonna fix the Lions and the Bills.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
It took me a while to get there, but I
got there. I was I thought was Lions over the Bills.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Bills can't win a super Bowl at their curse.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
No, I'm saying this everything happens once.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
I mean so, Also, the Lions have never won a
Super Bowl, so I mean that would be super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Would be pretty cool for the nfit like that would
be for the old timer been Ben. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
I wasn't as confident in my Lions peak, but I
feel pretty good about the Bills. Josh Allen's there, like.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah, this is the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I think the Chiefs might be down a little.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
This might be their chance to.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Mean, there's some good teams in the a FC though,
there really are some good team So you got an
SEC in Baltimore too, Yeah, Baltimore. I was trying to
not be a homer and pick Alabama picked the Oregon
with that championship. I don't know anybody on the organ.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah, I know they got a new quarterback because there
the other one got draft by the Brown So yeah,
I don't know who it is, but I know they
have a new they Surely nobody's listening to this, I
hope not. I would say if I'm gonna just like
I can't. I can't pick Georgia. I don't know how
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good they're gonna be a quarterback. So I'm gonna go
Texas because you say with you both the Ars Manning,
but he is pretty good. Yes, if his name was
Ars Johnson, he'd still be good. When he played last year,
he was good. But so I will say Texas. When's
the SEC? I feel like I want to. I was
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leaning towards Sam Penn State, but I don't think Penn
State can win, just because I don't think. I don't
think James Franklin. I don't think they can do it.
They're gonna lose some games they should.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
I don't think they happen almost I'm interrupt there. Because
James Franklin is a good football cup I didn't say
what James Franklin. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
That doesn't mean he's not a good football pitch, but
I don't think he can get over the hump of play.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
And because they don't have to, I know that's why
I can't pick them.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
But they have a good quarterback. They have one of
the best quarterbacks returning, So I was leaning towards that.
I really like Notre Dame as much as I don't
as much as that pain quarterback. I have no idea,
but they have a really good running back and they
I think that will be their team. Did I talk
Darrin yours?
Speaker 4 (42:22):
No, shut up, Michael's just going to his n C
double A theory of fleeting football right now.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
I am going back to the teams I struggle to
beat in the game. But I'm Alabama in the game,
so I got a pretty good defense. I can hold
my all.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
So I'm gonna go Homer here and go Alabama. So
you're saying I think.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
That there's no chance that that happens.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
In Alabama wins that championships.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Alabama, I'm going serious, Homer and going all SEC.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
So you got them losing a couple of games in
the regular season because they won't be the SEC chance.
But then you got them they gotta go to Georgia.
That's a hard that's gonna be a hard game to Auburn. Yeah, like,
are they.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
At Tennessee at home?
Speaker 1 (43:06):
But Vanderbilt again, But they gotta place South Carolina. South
Carolina's will be hard. Oh yeah, that's a funny place.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
You know who I think might be better than people think.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
It's Clempson.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
I think that kid, that club. The kid is good too,
and I don't think that is very good. But I
don't think they can win. I think it'll be late
last year. They'll make it, But I don't think.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
It's all about ty Simpson, Gunner Stockton, those two dudes.
I'm telling you one of.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Them, but ever one of them turns Yeah, if one
of them turns out to be good, that their team
has got to significantly.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Better taking the home or part of it. That's the truth. Like,
if you under Stockton is really good, George is gonna
be really freaking good, and if ty Simpson's good album
is gonna be really freaking good. So we'll see, all right,
Flat this is the grandping that you're like bringing this home.
Everybody's anticipating your picks. Who you got.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
I think for me, it's harder to pick somebody for this,
he said. I tell you who I think is going
to be really good. If one position is good, it
is Florida. I think they could be really good this
year because that Lagway boy is pretty dog gone good
when he's out there, and they just played so well
down the stretch, And like I said, the problem is,
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I don't know if two of them damn guys are
even back on the team right now.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
That was the way everything changes.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
But how they played at the end was really impressive,
and so I think they could be really good. I mean,
if I was gonna put my just I had to
put money down right now on it, I would bet
on Texas most likely, because I think they're the most
complete of all these teams. And in your last names, Manning,
you're usually pretty damn good at throwing the ball most
of the time. So in the NFL like that pains
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me to say, but I'm pretty sure the Ravens are
the best team in the league, and I freaking loathe
them too. I hate the Ravens. The only team I
hate more of the Ravens is the damn Colts. They're
they're gonna sucks. That'll be fine, say't worried about that,
so but they are they're.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Going to be really good.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
So that I could see them probably winning this year.
I feel like maybe people have broken the Chiefs magic
just a little bit and they kind of can play
them better. Now, I don't see anybody better than Philly
in the NF NFC, though I don't Detroit might can
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come in and beat them, like you're saying, but like
I don't. I think a team that could get really
red hot right at the end because they can play
wild hot as the Bucks with Baker, Like if they
get the playoffs and he gets wild streaky hot like
he can, they could make a play because playoffs in
the NFL are just there's so much different, wide.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Open than anything else is for theNational championship. Unfortunately, I
think Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
I know it's easy to say, but like god, itm
like they're freaking loaded again.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
It'd be int It's hard to win, like back to
back is hard to do, Like it's hard to keep
kids motivated. I think it's even harder in the current system.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
It is only the talent has spread out more than
it was, but there's still only a handful of teams
that can really win at you know, I mean they're
just spread out a little better. Yeah, there's only about ten. Well,
I hope you picked up a ton of knowledge in
that Football Preview Football Picks guys football picks. I hope
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you guys really picked up a lot of knowledge there.
Michae Leans. At one time they have a new quarterback.
You don't know who I can look up. You knew
that one got drafted. But look the theory of n
Cuba football.
Speaker 4 (46:47):
Like he plays on the PlayStation's like a good run
of the ball, They're gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
That's how I like to play defense Motor Day nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
When I play a Neckros Stanford offense, see me tight
ends you can put out there, like Iowa, I get
on board of that. I like a lot of tight
ends in the game. It really pisses people off. That
really pisses people off. So how can one I don't
I don't play this game. I really don't want. I
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don't own an Xbox or anything like that. So but
how can one play you in Xbox? Or is that
what it is? Xbox? No?
Speaker 2 (47:27):
I have a PS five PS like a real grown up.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
I don't know what's it called a PS What five?
We're on PS five? Now? You're about three behind. I
remember like a PS two. I'm not joking. I remember
when a PS two came out. That was something. Yeah,
I was in on it, then I'm out now. But
if you want to play Michael in PS five, and
for god's sakes, if you've listened this long, the least
we could do is play in a game. You just
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let us get on a multiplay flat.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
You can be the O lineman, yes right, a guard
be a guard.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
Mike's handled Michael's handles. Dia beet the mic on there
if you're looking for him.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
So alright, until next time