Episode 111: Dramatic Healings with Charlene Ellington

Meet Charlene Ellington, an energy healer who shares stories of amazing - even miraculous - healing. Hear how she was called to start with Reiki and grew into the gifts of psychic surgery, pre-surgery readings, mediumship, and more.

Disclaimer: Nothing in this episode is meant to replace proper medical care. The conversation is about complementary energy healing modalities. See a doctor if you need medical attention.

Learn more about Charlene at https://energetictransformations-llc.com/
Buy her book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Miracles-Among-Us-Wonder-Wisdom/dp/B0FGC317QR

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
An old Chinese proverb says those who think it cannot
be done should not interrupt those doing it. On this
episode of the Peak Podcast, you'll meet a talented healer
who is not to be interrupted. Welcome to the Peak Podcast.

(00:47):
I'm your host, Nicole Moroc and I'm grateful you're here.
The two big ideas behind the peap Podcast are to
show that the paranormal is more normal than most people think,
and to connect the science to the side HI, including
esp psychokinesis and energy healing. In this episode, I'm introducing
you to Charlene Ellington, who answered her calling in a

(01:11):
big way. But first I want to thank everyone who
came out to the fifth annual Quail hollow Art Walk
this past Saturday who chatted with me and bought my books.
I hope you enjoy them. It was nice meeting you.
I plan to do more in person sales next year,
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(01:32):
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and you'll receive updates on personal appearances, briefs on recent episodes,
book updates, and occasional giveaways and other fun stuff. Now
back to this episode's exciting interview. Charlene Ellington has provided

(01:57):
alternative healing modalities since nineteen nine twenty seven for both
humans and animals. Through her practice Energetic Transformations, she helps
individuals achieve a physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual balance using
her intuitive abilities. As a certified reaking master, medical intuitive

(02:18):
and animal communicator, she offers psychic surgery to address physical
ailments without the use of traditional surgical tools. Using energetic
techniques to intuitively mimic the process of physical surgery. She
provides pre surgery readings to promote rapid healing and minimize pain.

(02:39):
As a medium, she connects with spirit guides and angels
to deliver messages and healing. Her expertise includes clearing spirit attachments,
removing negative entities and energies from individuals and locations, and
offering intuitive soul communication readings. Is an active writer and

(03:01):
co author of Miracles among Us, Words of Wonder and
Wisdom by Mystic Voices, available on Amazon, also contributing to
Bridges to Heaven and several anthologies. As part of a
writer's group. Charlene has trained with renowned experts such as

(03:21):
Greg Braden, James von Prague, doctor Richard Bartlett, and Raymond Grace.
She has completed programs with Transpersonal Reiki Institute, the Monroe Institute,
Seer Holistic Health Associates, and others. Personally, I can tell
you that this interview was an absolute joy to do.

(03:42):
So let's dive in with Charlene. Hi, Charlene, how are
you doing this evening?

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I'm good, Nikki. How about yourself?

Speaker 1 (03:50):
I'm great. I am good, good, so excited to meet
you virtually and talk to you about healing and all
the exciting work that you do. Uh huh. Let's just
go ahead and get started with how you got into healing.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Okay, in the nineties, my father in law and my
best friend both died of cancer, and I was not
into the healing arts at all at that time, and
I just remember thinking, gosh, if it was just something
I could have done to help them, if it was
just something I could have done to help make them
feel better. But I hadn't gotten there yet. So I

(04:31):
joined a recorder flute group and in that group was
my best friend that passed away. Her mother in law
was in that group, and so when we disbanded for
the summer, I said, Cynthia, I really like to get
to know you. You know, I just I just had
met her once when my friend was still alive. But

(04:53):
I don't know. She just was interesting and I thought,
you know, I wonder if she would be interested. And
she said sure. So I went to her house and
walked in, and I was an avid reader. She had
hundreds and hundreds of books, you know, in her house.
Oh I was smitten. I was totally smitten, and say,

(05:14):
you know, so we sat and we had the nicest chat.
You know. We talked about books, We talked about this,
we talked about that. We talked about metaphysical things, even
though I really wasn't into it. You know, at that time,
probably I lived in a small town. So the most
metaphysical thing in our town would have been the one
book by Shirley McLean Adam lymb and so, I mean,

(05:37):
you know, and so to find somebody who you know,
was talking about all these things, Oh my god, this
is just so interesting. And so anyway, we talked about
metaphysical things, and she would When it was just before
it was time for me to leave, she brought up
that she was going to go to a hypnotherapy conference

(06:00):
and sponsored by aar E in Virginia Beach. Oh, tell
me more, and I said. She brought out her brough Sure,
and I looked at it and it was like all
these things I never knew I wanted to know about Now,
I thought, I gotta go with this. I gotta go,
you know. And so anyway she sent me home with

(06:22):
you know, she lent me three books and I went
home and I signed up to go to the conference
with her. I didn't know anything about anything about these things,
but it definitely called to me. And so I pulled
out one of the books and I started reading it
and over into it. It talked about this woman sharing reiki,

(06:43):
you know, doing reiki to her husband's leg. But it
didn't give me any information. Normally you kind of got
some kind of idea. So there was no Google back
in the nineties for me to go look that up.
So I called Cynthia back and I said, what is
this rake? This r E I k I that is
talking about in this book? And she was telling me

(07:07):
about you know, well, it's it's healing the mental, the physical,
the emotional, and the spiritual, you know, and it can
do no harm. Oh, and she says, and I've got
a book about it, would you like to borrow it? Well,
of course I like to borrow it, you know. So
I go back to her house, you know, that week,
and I get the book and it's a couple of
weeks before I open it up and start reading it.

(07:29):
Three pages in, I thought, I have to know how
to do this. It was the strongest calling, the strongest
pull I've ever had of anything in my life. And say,
lo and behold. At the hypnotherapy conference that she and
I were going to go to, the first day, there

(07:49):
were going to be a couple of people there teaching reiki. Well, alrighty.
Then so sometime I rolls around and we go to
then the therapy and I go to that reiki class.
She doesn't, but you know, there's eight people in the
class and they tell, you know, introduce yourself and tell us,

(08:10):
you know why you're here, what do you do for
a living? And I told him who I was, and
I was a veteran's claims agent. I worked with veterans.
And I said, you know, I don't know enough about
this to even really know why I'm here, but I
know I'm gonna know by the time it ends today.
So okay, I was good with that. And then by lunchtime,

(08:33):
I knew that I was going to become a reiki master,
whatever that was, I was going to do that. It
was just it was a knowing. And so you know,
the conference is over and I go home and I
anybody that would let me practice breaking on them, I

(08:53):
was practicing reaking on them. I mean I was hooked.
I really really was hooked. And so you know, while
I was at the conference, you know, I went to
other classes. I wasn't a hypnotherapist, but the classes were interesting.
And so anyway, long about February, I started getting this

(09:16):
message and I could hear it, you know, in my head,
I could hear it. Call Monica. Well, Monica was somebody
that I had met at the therapy conference and she
was a raking master, and so yeah, I'll get around
to it. And a couple of days went by and
same message, called Monica. I called her man when I

(09:37):
get around to it, and I didn't do it. So
like two days later, I know exactly where I was
driving to work, exactly where I was on the road
when it was like, call Monica today and do it.
By the end of this day. So I called her
that night and she, I can't remember where, Michigan, far

(09:59):
far away from Virginia and long behole. She was going
to be traveling for the next two or three weeks
for business, so I had to call her. I needed
to talk to her that day. She was going to
be gone, but anyway, she agreed to teach me level
two reiki and to help me become a reiki master.
I said, well, okay, well where are we going to meet?

(10:20):
Now we're going to do this, she said, she tells
me when she's gonna be on the way back home,
and we meet halfway from where I am where she is.
So we met in Berkeley, West Virginia, and I spent
almost a week with her, and she taught me, you know,
at the level two and initiated me to become a
raking master. Well I was just beside myself. I mean,

(10:42):
oh my goodness. And so the next month, which was
March of ninety eight, I went back to Virginia Beach
and became a hypnotherapist. And of course with all that,
you know, when it's because it started back in September,
I can't get enough of anything. I just can't get

(11:03):
enough of reading everything I can get my hands on.
And say, by May, Cynthia and I had opened up
our little business in our little town, and I was
doing breaking, I was doing hitplotherapy, and she was doing
hitlotherapy and past life regression. And because it was in
a little town, you know, this twenty eight, twenty eight

(11:24):
years ago, you don't know how it's going to be accepted,
you know, but we held our breath and held our
faith and it went fine. Nobody gave us any problems.
Oh good, Yeah, yeah, nobody at all gave us any
any problems. Whats up? And so did that for probably
a couple of years. And then and I was working

(11:46):
full time and then doing this on the site. Well,
by then my first grandbaby was born. I wasn't having
any time to spend with my brain baby, saying I decided, okay,
I wasn't going to stay in the business with her
anymore because I wanted to have time to spend the
grand dating. So I took my business home and started

(12:06):
seeing clients, you know, part time at my house. And
that that just kind of fizzled out, and then the
marriage fizzled out, you know, a few years later people
change as you get into these different alternative healing modalities
and the whole different world opens up to you. And

(12:26):
sometimes it just doesn't open up to the spouts. It's
just not for them. And so our time was open.
And then I found this quaint little apartment ad in
the country on this little farm and had a reyki ring,
you know, had two beer rooms. I took one of
them and made that into a reiki ring and was
seeing clients again. So I was a happy camp for

(12:49):
doing that. But then I discovered I didn't love doing
the hypnotherapy anymore. Yeah, I just didn't want to do
it anymore. So I just stop doing that. But of
course other classes started calling, you know, always listening now,
and I would know instantly if I was supposed to

(13:11):
go take a class like Raymond Grace was teaching Dallison,
Oh yes, that cost to me, went and took that.
Then here's a class about aromatherapy that'd be interesting, so
I'd go and take that. And so anyway, just a
little by little things started taking place during the reiki sessions,

(13:32):
like clients past life experiences and information started spontaneously coming through.
And then you know, and we find out it made
sense to them about how those past life events were
affecting their life today and their medical conditions today. Well

(13:54):
that was interesting, you know, and say after that then
I started channeling and that led me to doing soul
readings for people, you know, and they could talk, I
could talk to their higher self and that helped them
to figure out, what's this difficulty in life? Why? Why
is this? You know? Why? Am I like? Why? Amy

(14:16):
I finding out a purpose in life? So the soul
readings were for that, okay, all right, And then after
that the client's spirit guides started showing up and giving
the information and sending messages to the clients. So all right,

(14:37):
that was good too. And then after that, in twenty thirteen,
I founded Energetic Transformations. So with that, still reading ferociously,
you know, everything, and get my hands in and started
reading Carolyn Mace and she's a medical into it if

(15:00):
and this is really interesting, I think I might could
do this, if somebody would just show me. Hell, I
think I could do this, and I know I could
do this, And to my great delight, the classes became
available and so it started taking them, and just like
with the reiki, the medical intuition it was easy. It

(15:24):
was it just made sense to me. It was easy,
it flowed, and I loved it. And so after that
I discovered, you know, when something's that easy and it
calls to you that hard, pay attention because I think,
in my own opinion, it's for you if it calls

(15:46):
to you that.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Hard, I agree.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
So what I do with the medical intuition is I'll
tune into somebody's body. Most times, if I don't know
the person, I will get them to send me a
picture because it just helps me to tune in and
connect with them energetically easier. And every muscle, every organ,
every cell, every part of the body has a voice,

(16:13):
and I can hold a conversation in my mind with
the parts of those bodies and find out what's going on.
I'm going to ask, you know, what the client wants
to know, you know, why is my knee not healing?
Why is my arm hurt? You know? And the body
will talk back and give answers. So with that what

(16:35):
they need I hear and the information comes through. And
so when I put pen to paper, it just starts flowing.
So after that, psychic surgery showed up, but it just
kind of appeared on its thing through my granddaughter. And
this is probably at least ten or more years ago.

(16:57):
And she called me one day and somebody had accidentally
knocked her down at school, and she knew that she
had broken her wrist because the fingers were swollen and
the pain was the same as when she had fallen
and broken the other wrist at another time previously. So
she said, you know, her mama had taken her to

(17:18):
the doctor's office and they had x rayed and found
that she had two hairline fractures, and so they were
sending her to the hospital, which was not that far
away from the doctor's office. They wanted them to x
ray it and to set it. So she asked me,
what I send raikie to it, you know, just what

(17:40):
I see? What it said, What did I find? And
I tuned in as soon as she and I hung up,
and in my mind's eye, I could see the two
hairline fractures, you know, in the bone in the wrist,
and so, you know, I just started working on it

(18:01):
intuitively and etherically, and I was sending here an energy
to it, and I said it and wrapped it energetically.
All this done long distance, and so then they get
to the hospital. They go in probably the er, I
don't remember, and they asked Ray again and they don't

(18:22):
find anything. Oh my, nothing, nothing at all. And so
you know that's a surprise to me.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Well, I mean we're talking maybe what thirty forty five
minutes sixty minutes ago, you know, that's Ray showed two
Caroline practice and there they're gone. And so yeah, I'm thinking,
did I really did I do that? I mean, this
was a movie for me, you know, this was new

(18:54):
for me. So I called to Mama like three hours
later to check on Macy and she was fine. And
then I texted MACI, you know, the next morning, and
she said it was a little soul but it didn't hurt.
And then I checked on her that night and she
said there were no more, no additional problems whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Wow, I'm right.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
And so I got another story to share, and that
what I learned from that one. I had a client
and I, you know, I had helped her before with
energy work and she had a knee problem and it
bothered her in the past. But she was on vacation
several states away from home, and the knee went out

(19:40):
and she was hobbling and could hardly walk and in
big pain. I mean, it was given her a world
of hurt. So she calls me and she says, can
you send it Rekie, can you send it energy? Please?
Just do anything, do whatever you can to help make
it feel better. She's I don't care what you do,
just can you fix it. I'll try. I tune in

(20:04):
and talk to the body just to see exactly what
it's saying, and to flint, I can see what's going
on behind her knitty and I asked the body, you know,
what do you need? You know? And it tells me.
And I'm etherically and energetically and working on it. I'm
in Virginia, She's halfway across the United States. But I'm

(20:27):
still working on the back of her knee, doing what
it says it needs. And say when I'm finished, you know,
she feels better, it's not hurting. And I'm telling her, Okay, now,
this is just like a real operation. You know, if
you've had a physical incision, you'd be careful with it

(20:48):
and you take care of it. You know, you be
gentle with it and don't do a lot of walking.
That's what the body said to Didty. So I'm just
giving her the message that her knee said to tell her,
and so she didn't listen. She walked and walked and
walked and walked and walked because she didn't hurt and
she felt better. And so like a week later she

(21:09):
called and her knee was really bothering her, but you know,
she had not listened. So the main thing that I
walked away from that is, even though it's not a
physical incision, you've got to treat it as if it
had been a physical incision, and you got to take
care of it. And the body will tell you how

(21:31):
long you know, to be careful with it, you know,
and what to do, you know, don't squat, don't kneel
on it, don't bend it, you know, don't I told
her all those things, but she didn't listen. And so
after that I thought, Okay, I got to make sure
I always always tell the people to listen to that.

(21:53):
And then and then probably my best and most exciting
medical intuition and psychic surgery is the one about Lisa
who had messed up her knee, hurt her knee, injured

(22:14):
it back in the nineties, and she lift up on
the third floor of a Brownstone and she had to
just crawl up backwards, crying, and it was hurting. And
because she just totally believed in the you know, the
power of prayer, she put her hands on it, you know,
and asked for healing, and by the next morning it

(22:36):
was better. And so, you know, and she got along
with it for years, because this was back in the nineties.
But at the end of last year, then she reinjured
it and she was having a hard time. You know,
she really couldn't go up and down steps, you know.
And say her aunt had been through knee replacement. She

(22:58):
had seen what all that entail Lisa was taking. Her
mom went to orthopedis for her knees and she was
singing with that entail, and then her knee got all
the Lisa's me got all looped up, and so she
was singing, yeah, just reading everything she could. And then
she started investigating stem cells you know, therapy, and say

(23:23):
she called me and said, uh, what do you think
about you doing some stem cells surgery or therapy. I me,
I mean, I've heard of it, but I don't know
what it is. You know, you got to give me
a chance at least read about it a little bit, so,
you know, saying I study up on it and call

(23:46):
her back in two or three days and say, what
do we have to lose. Let's let's try it. Well,
you know, we'll just we'll give it a shot, you know. Son.
We set up a time, you know, for her to
come to my house, and I have already your inch
set up here as well. And she got on the
table and I'd done the medical intuitive reading, so it

(24:07):
told me exactly what to do, I mean exactly, and said, okay,
so I've got instructions on what to do. Well, I
had never put my hand on her knee. So when
I put my hand on her knee, she only had
a half a knee. She had like a piece of
a knee over here and a piece of knee over here,

(24:29):
and the wedge in the middle was gone. And I said,
where's all a party in knee? And she says, what's
been gone for eight that's been gone for years. I said,
you never told me, you know, you didn't tell me
that you were missing part of the knee. Well I'm
missing part of the knee, And saying okay, because in
the medical you know, intuitive reading, it didn't tell me

(24:51):
it was missing part of the knee. So that was
a surprise. Well, okay, so I teened into the body,
you know, teened into the knee, you know, uh, intuitively
and energetically, and I removed the me on move the
knee over to the site so I could get into
what what had what was under the knee, and I

(25:14):
just started following the instructions of what the knee had
told me to do, you know, when I did the reading,
and yeah, in my mind's eye, I could see like
the off writis and the grit that was down the
end there that was grinding into you know, the muscle

(25:34):
and the tendons and stuff that were under there. I
could see why it was hurting, you know when when
she walked in, what was causing the pain. And so okay,
so I etherically washed it out, you know, like if
I had a little hose, I will I washed it out,
and I had a little etheric vacuum, and I vacuumed

(25:56):
it out and put some like some some gel in there,
you know, just kind of lubricated and let me let
me see what's under here, and let me see what's
under here in my mind's eye, and and then in
my mind's eye. I was looking under the knee, and
under the kneecap was all pity. You know. I thought, hmmm,

(26:20):
that's where I guess all the grit had ground into
the back of the knee and made all these little
pity holes. And so I just covered them up with
like some calcium, you know, some hard calcium, and covered
that up. And then and then I sprayed like the
stem cell uh yeah, stem cells all in my eyes,

(26:42):
and they covered up the kneecap, and I sprayed all
in inside of what I had just worked on. And
then I needed to work on each of the ligaments
that went on each side of the knee. Now I
could put my hand on that, but but and then
the muscle of the liigments up on the top and

(27:03):
the bottom of it of the knee. And so then
you gotta, you know, put her leg up it like
a navy degree. You gotta get it just right. It
can't be too tight, it can't be too loose, you know,
the tension's got to be just right. And so did that,
and then it was time to put the kneecap back,

(27:25):
and so you know that I just made sure that
there was enough stem cells had been sprayed down in there,
and I covered the kneecap with stem cells and then
I just put it back. You know, it still had
had the V in it, but you know, I put
it back and and then etherically wrapped it. And then

(27:47):
we made sure. I told her, Okay, now, when it
feels better, don't nail on it, don't run, don't squat,
don't do anything that's gonna mess it up. Because if
it feels better, you're going, Okay, I can go do
all this stuff, but don't make me have to come
back in now until three days and fix it. She listened,

(28:07):
She listened, and so you know, I mean, she immediately
felt better and then within three days she didn't have
any pain. I mean, she never did have big pain,
but in three days the pain was gone. And so
we really didn't say anything to anybody because I didn't

(28:28):
know if it weren't working. I mean, I'm just seeing
what it would do. Right well, after that, the kneecap
started growing back together, and now she's got a whole kneecap.
It grew back.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
That is phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
And so anyway, yeah, I guess the biggest thing about
not having the physical incisions and doing the psychic surgery
is it's gentler, and it's faster recovery. It's just a

(29:13):
more gentle healing. And uh, probably the biggest advantage that
anybody would have going in is holding the belief that
it can.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Do what it did right, right, because faith is like
a huge portion process. Yeah, yeah, So okay, I have
some questions just going just going back a little bit,
just just to Lisa, actually when you were doing the

(29:44):
psychic surgery, because I have not tried this. I am
a reiki master, but that's and I'm an emotion code practitioner,
but that's as much as I've done. So I've never
tried psychic surgery. And I don't practice I often because
I'm a writer and a podcaster and so i have
a lot of things that take me in a full

(30:05):
time worker. So anyway, so I'm like way behind you
as far as this stuff goes. And so I have
to ask when you were doing the psychic surgery on
Lisa's knee, did you were you still holding your hands
on her or was she just laying on the table
and you were kind of acting out in the air

(30:25):
over her? What you were doing? Like, how does that work?

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Big? Both I mean, no, no session, no two sessions
of the same. I just go with the flood. So yes, yeah,
I barely touched her, you know. And that let's say
that this was the knee area and I just barely
touched it. But that was more just to what energy

(30:48):
was I feeling off of it. I go a big,
big time about what I feel energetically, you know, what
are my hands? What do my fingers? Tell me? But
more so I was doing it in my mind. I mean,
this was all in my mind what I was, you know,
and I was picturing myself doing it. You know. I

(31:10):
didn't have any stem cells in my hands. I like that,
you know. So if this was her knee, I was
just you know, making What she would have seen was
just me making motion. What I saw in my mind
is what I was described to you what I did.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
So so, but I would say I probably barely touched
her while I was actually working under the knee. The
only time I really touched her was just when I
needed to, you know, bend her knee into that ninety
degree angle, just to make sure that the tension was right,
you know, And so I was you know, it was

(31:49):
difficult for her to hold her folded up like that's uh,
you know, I helped. I think I probably laid it
on my shoulder, you know, and and just did whatever
idea tension wise. But other than that, no, I really
didn't touch her. I mean, yeah, well they made the
second person I told you about. She was cleaning across
the United States, right, you know, so you got to

(32:13):
picture it, you know, And with all this energy work
and all the things that I have learned to do,
you got to have a big imagination. Nothing. You just
got to think outside the.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Box, right and have faith. I did work and have
faith in or so, so you are a visual person
absolutely right. Okay, So when you when you took the
classes for becoming a medical intuitive, do they teach you like,

(32:45):
is it about biology and physiology or how they teach.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I took up physiology. I took another physiology class one
to help me with you know, with being a medical intuitive.
And I also because I did veterans claims and there's
were medical conditions, I knew that it would help me
with that as well. So it was a twofold win

(33:11):
for me taking that class. But yes, it does help.
But I mean, I'm gonna be honest, with you a
lot of times, it's not unusual at all for the
body to tell me stuff. You don't give me names,
physical names, medical names. I don't know what they're talking about.
It's not until I, you know, have finished with the session.
I've got to go look up with the body just

(33:32):
told me. You know, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Okay. So I had so many questions that I didn't
write them down. Oh when you say that you can
hear what the body is saying, do you do you
actually hear a voice or is it more like your
own voice, like when you.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Whether it's the person you know, the the body part,
the person's higher self, whether it's an animal, no matter what,
they each have their own voice. So when I hear
them in my mind, it would be just like, you know,
I'm hearing somebody out there, but it's in my mind.

(34:18):
I call it. I hear it with my inner ears.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, okay, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
It's because I'm hearing you right now with my outer ears.
That's going on. It's my inner ears, okay. And just
like I see things in my mind, that's my inner sight.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Say, when you first started experiencing like spirit guides coming
through while you're doing Renki. Did they just walk up
and say, hey, I'm her spirit guide or like, how
did how did you know what was going on?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Well? I would know that somebody was in there because
it was only the two of us, you know, the
person's on the table one. I'm doing the work, but
I know that somebody else is in there. I can
feel it, you know. Maybe they make a noise that
I know the person on the table didn't make, you know,
they make a noise over here to let me know

(35:12):
that they're there. And the first time it happened probably
the freaky is, you know, just because I wasn't used
to it. And what it was was this little old,
gray haired lady. I could see her in my mind's
eye and she was bent over.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
I was kind of kissing the woman on the table,
and and I thought, well, gosh, do I say anything
to do? I tell the client when it's over with.
I don't know what to do with this, you know,
And then I thought it is it's safe to tell,
and I could just feel calmness in my belly. Said, okay,
So when I asked the woman, you know, and I

(35:53):
asked the woman that was on the table when it
was all over with, and I said, does does a
woman you know? And I described her? I said, oh yeah,
that was my nan. Okay, okay, So after that, you know,
when the guide started showing up and giving me information
or people's loved ones started showing up giving me messages,

(36:17):
it didn't bother me. It didn't freak me out. You know,
it was like, Okay, this, this is what's going to
be happening from now. But whenever these new things happen,
it's always going to be happening again. I mean, it's
just I have learned, you know, and I also learned
a lot of times something might be popping my head

(36:38):
to try that, even if I didn't even know why
I should do it, But I learned that, you know,
just going and do it and trust it. You know,
as long as you know you I'm not as long
as I know I'm not doing any harm. That's always
you know, that's always the bottom wine. But I am
not doing any harm. You were a shot, you know,
just see where it takes you. And I hate anything

(37:00):
yet go around, you know, from from trying you know,
just think thank you side the box. Oh yeah, definitely,
thank you you too.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
And it works for you. Oh yeah, I love that.
And so so when you okay, going back to a
r E like that first weekend conference and you said
you knew, you immediately knew that you needed to be

(37:37):
a reiki master.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Like mh.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
That is is so impressive to me because not everybody
who gets into raki has that strong calling. They just
a lot of times it's kind of well my In
my case, my friends were doing it. Hey, we're gonna
do key one at my house. I've got somebody coming
over to teach. Do you want to come do it? Sure,

(38:04):
I'll come do it whatever, you know, and then it
turns out to be an amazing weekend. But like the
fact that you had this strong calling almost immediately, do
you think that that's the reason that you've been able
to level up so much?

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yes? I do, I really really do. And you know,
I'm a big one for trusting my gut. You know,
my gut novelized, especially along the lines with stuff like this.
You know, if it's a calmness, that's my yes, if
it's a static in my belly, that's a name. And

(38:43):
through the years I have definitely marked and even because
I had a significant medical condition, you know that left
me HOUSEBA for two or three years, but and the
surgeon wanted to go back in and do the same
kind of operation again that didn't fix it the first time.
And you know, and so I called to myself. I

(39:05):
wore if I get it done. I wore that in
my belly for a couple of days and it was
like no, no, no, no, Well how bad if I
don't get it done? And I had complete peace. That
was my biggest eye opener in my entire life. And
I won everything through my gut about everything ever since

(39:28):
smart and life works because I do that, and a
lot of that big more laugh Because you asked me something, well,
let me sleep on it. Well it's not so much
that I got to sleep on it to get the answer.
I just want to make sure am I getting all
the details? Am I feeling all the details? You know,
before I give my permanent yes or no. But evidently

(39:54):
I must have known to do to trust that from
the beginning. But you know, when I knew, even three
pages in to that Reiki book that I had to
learn it, it was just that was even a stronger call.
And then I want to marry this man. It was
a stronger calling that man, I'm ready to get pregnant

(40:16):
and have a baby. It was the strongest calling I
ever had.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
And the second strongest one was the medical intuition when
I you know, when I read that book and I thought,
I think I could do that. I know that I
could do that. You know, I just somebody would just
show me. How remind me? If somebody will just remind
me so? And I remember saying those words in my head,

(40:43):
what do you mean, remind me? I've never done this before?
But then you think, well, maybe I did it in
the past life. I don't know, but you're glad I'm
doing it in this life.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
I just got chills when you said, maybe I'm doing
it in the past life. I did it. Yeah, I
think I think remind you is right on. Okay, So
how do you you've talked about the psychic surgery. How
do you do the pre surgery reading?

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Okay? Okay. What I do with that is, let's say
somebody's gonna have surgery the next day. I will tune
into their body, and I normally do it the day
of the night before, because I don't know how much
the body knows they after tomorrow, you know, or two
or three days from now. I just like to be
able to tell it what they're going to do with

(41:39):
the procedure, the surgery tomorrow, and I will talk to
the entire body. I will particularly talk to that body part,
you know, to tell it what's going to happen to it.
And and then I want all the body parts to
work together while the procedure, all the surgery is going on,
you know, and I do pen to paper, I'll can

(42:02):
tune in to the body and talk to it telling
you know, I call it all the angels, you know,
to surround the person and surround anybody who'll have anything
to do with the person, you know, before, during, and
after the procedure. I want like the heart, the heart
of the heart to beat in balance. I want the
blood pressure to remain balanced. I want the lungs to

(42:25):
breathe in and out and balance, and I pretty much
just go through the entire body, you know, asking it
to all work together. And let's say somebody is going
to have something removed, I'm going to give thanks to
that body part for what it's done to the body
all this time, you know, thank you. And if it's

(42:46):
going to be replaced with something, tell it just I
tell it exactly what's gonna happen, so there are no surprises,
because there have been times that people got stuff done
and then they want to reading it after it. The
body said, nobody told me so, and so it's gonna happen.
Nobody told me, and was kind of pissy about it

(43:06):
because nobody's told them, you know, what was going to happen.
But the main reason for it is so that they
will be minimal bleeding and or especially minimal discomfort. And
so a lot of times people will will you know,

(43:28):
they might take some pain medication at the at the
hospital because they give it to them, but then when
they go, huh, they don't need it because the body
has been prepared ahead of time. There's no need, you know,
for any kind of discomfort. You know, everything's going to
work together. And then I always at the end of
the reading, well, I ask, you know, do you have

(43:49):
any questions, do you have anything that you want to
you know, say to the owner of this body. And
if yes, then of course I'm going to send a
copy of a summary of what I have said to
the person, and then I want them to read it
several times or like the day before the night before

(44:10):
the day of so that it is totally amiss in
who they are. The body knows what's going to happen,
and so you know, or like I want the skin
to be supple enough to easily you know, receive the
unincision or or I think if they're going to be intobated,

(44:30):
you know, for the jaw and the teeth to open
up gently enough, and for the you know this to
receive the intubation to you know, and or like the anesthesia,
for the body to receive the exact right amount of
the anesthesia you know, and to uh, for it to

(44:52):
be acclimated to the body in perfect balance, and then
you know, for the jaw and all to be loose
enough to when the intubation tube is taken out or
when the body no longer needs that dan stasia from
the procedure, for the body to just you know, just
let it go, you know, let the body release it.

(45:14):
Those type of things that I talked to and prepare
the body. I like that.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
And I've I am without like all bladder and without
my appendix, And it never occurred to me to thank
either of those. You just gave me something else to
think about.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Well, it's anyway, you know. But I have found that
people have minimal to no discomfort. You know. That's amazing,
That is amazing. I had one client that got foot operated,
and I bet she dropped something on her foot, I
can't remember. She really broke the bonones significantly and she

(45:56):
had to have an operation to get it off put
back together. Other and anyway, she called and wanted their
pre surgery reading ahead of time, and so did all
the things that I just shared with you, and told
the body that there was no need for any discomfort afterwards,
you know, just going to be swift, easy and effortless healing,

(46:17):
you know. And so you know, she took the pain
medication at the hospital and she came home and the
hosband kept wanting her to take it, and she said, I
don't need it, and well that they said you should
take you I don't need it, and say, okay, she
didn't take it. She didn't need it.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
So.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Now, how did you start doing that?

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Like, oh, I was thinking about that like two or
three days ago. I woke up and I said, when
I learned to do that? I think I read a
book and I was trying to think of the name
of the book. And I think the woman in the book, now,
I read the book a long time ago, you know,

(47:09):
so this was a really long time ago, and I
think she talked to the two people's bodies before they
had surgery, and I thought, I can do that. That
makes perfect sense to me. Oh my god, that's just
a win win. So you know, with friends, you know,

(47:29):
or clients, and you know, I tell him, yeah, look,
let's try it. Well, then you try it, and then
it worked and the person doesn't need you know, medication
for you know, for pain, and and they heal up
quickly and easily and they feel good and so okay,
well that's that's another thing. Yeah, I tuck off and

(47:51):
he son. I think I read the book. I read
the book and took the idea and did it.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
I love that you are so open to just trying
things like I, as some of us are. The the
logical side of the brain jumps in and gets in
the way. So yeah, you're you're just ready to, like
you said, outside of the box, go outside the box
and just trust it. At work and with especially with reiki,

(48:21):
there's there's not negative side effects from reiki. Everything that
you do with reiki is positive. So if it doesn't work,
it doesn't work. But the chance is that it will
work on some level. And yeah, win when you're so
right about that.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Now, another thing that I have gotten a significant amount
a more of an amount of people I'm finding like
if they've got spirit attachments to them or in them,
or even maybe dark ones are negative ones attached to
them or in them, that's going to prohibit people from healing.

(49:02):
Well m h. So you know, just by trial and error,
you know I have failed if I checked to see
if they are uh, if they have any attachments, and
get those removed first, you know, the medical condition pretty
much resolves itself, you know, when you clear it out,

(49:23):
it cleans. But who knew that the attachments were the
cause of the issue. So you get rid of those
attachments and and the healing goes easy, peasy, limb and squeezy.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
And so how do you know when somebody has an attachment?
Is it the same experience as when a guide walks
into the room or do you have to look for them?

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Sometimes I just know that they're there. I can feel
I guess. I feel it in my chest, I feel
it in my gut. I just I can feel the
negative energy. I just I don't know. I just know
I can feel it. I don't always know that there. I
did one recently, and I was surprised when I went

(50:13):
in to send the person reiki, you know, to because
she was having pain and needed me to send her,
and got found out that she had a negative one attached,
you know, in her area of pain. Well, I didn't
see that one coming. That was a surprise, you know,
But all of a sudden got in touch. Do you

(50:35):
want me to remove it? Said? Yes, you know, she
wanted me to remove it, and say, but I just
knew that. I guess if I had left it until
I completed the healing session, I just didn't think that
she would get the healing that she needed. I just
I knew that it wouldn't work, and so I cleared it.
I don't called him the angels because they're the one

(50:56):
to get rid of the attachments. I don't do that.
I just asked for that help, and they do that
and and got rid of it, and then the healing
just you know, I just went with what felt right,
you know. And so when it was all over and
done with, she said, you know, she could feel major energy.
One went through her, you know, the area moved a

(51:19):
whole lot easier, and she didn't have any more pain,
and she'd been having significant pain for years. So anyway,
you just you give it a shot. You think you
know the name. I continue to be surprised at the
stuff that pops up like that. I was surprised that
I didn't know that there was a dark entity. Now

(51:42):
I didn't normally on top of that, but I think
it's because she said she only wanted, you know, I
was worth of breaking and said, okay, I can do that,
you know. But then it while I was, you know,
doing the work, quickly, I was shown that there was
one male. So okay, See, sometimes I can see them

(52:06):
in my mind's eye, you know, I pretty much know
where they are, and I can feel if it's a
really bad one versus just an attachment. I mean, you
can have spirit attachments. They don't mean harm, but they
CAUs harm. They don't need to be there a dark one.
I just normally get it feeling in my chest, in

(52:30):
my belly, and so I didn't get that. But they're
good at hiding, you know, and if they if they
know that you're coming in to do some work. Sometimes
they step out, you know, and you just I don't know,
you just got to keep kind of cooking around.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
And I love that you calling the angels to take
care of it.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. Oh. I start every healing session
off with talking to the guides and the angels asking
for their help, but especially with clearing out the negative entities,
you know, the demons, the really bad ones. Archangel Michael
and his Band of Mercy do that. And then because

(53:17):
the very first time I did it, I did it
and I thought, I am not ever doing that ever again.
There has got to be a better way to do this.
And I've just got the information, you know, calling the angels,
calling Archangel Michael, and so that's what I did from
then name and they take care of it. But you're

(53:38):
doing when I you know, when you're going in to
clear out the dark ones. That's that is spiritual warfare.
I mean, that's some scary, scary stuff, and it's not
for the faint of heart, even with the angels helping
until you can get them all, you know, clearing out,
I mean, that is true spiritual warfare. It's it's an exorcism,

(54:04):
so it's not for the thing of heart, and not
everybody wants to do it, but God gave the ability
saying somebody's got to do it. So I'm elected one
of many I'm sure that are out there to do it.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Also, yeah you you accepted the challenge and.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Yeah, yeah yeah. But anyway, I just I love the
alternative healing modalities. I love every one of them. The
animal communication, fun, fun, fun. You never know what they're
going to tell you. I had the most interesting conversations
with them.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
So how did you get started in that? Did you
just try it? Or did you No?

Speaker 2 (54:49):
No, no, this is a good story too. I went
to the Monroe Institute, you know, near Charlotte'sville in Faber
Faber of Virginia, and uh, I say, it's like a
week long of meditation. And so I had somebody that
I grew up with and had known from ten years

(55:12):
old and had passed over come see me and talk
to me and gave me a message to give us WAFE. Okay,
I'm not really used to doing this. I knew the wife,
but I didn't know her well enough to say, you know,
so I had to you know, after I went home,
I had to figure out what to do with that one.

(55:33):
But in that same week, I had three of my
pets from my past come to me and talk to me,
and so, well that's cool, you know, And I mean
I absolutely knew that it was them, because each one
of them told me something that was you know, specialized
to them. So of course, when I come back from

(55:55):
my week long you know, visit to the Monroe Institute,
and I'm telling all my girlfriend and my friends about,
you know, what happened, and I'm telling them about the
three pets come through. Well, one of the one of
the girlfriends, says, I want you to talk to my dog,
you know, and ask him so and so. And then
somebody else's I want to I want you to talk
to my cat. And I thought, well, look, I don't

(56:16):
know what I'm doing. We don't care, we don't. Just
give it a shot. Say, you know, I never I
never knew their pets, you know. I just tuned into
their pets, and I tuned into them through their humans,
and so just started talking, you know. I talked to
the first one, and it is that's just exactly like him. Yes,

(56:38):
that's how he acts. And so then I tried another
one and I'll write on the money, and I tried
another one. I was right on the money, and so
it was just word word of helth and say then
I was a handle communicator.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
You are amazing. This is okay. So I'm loving all
these stories. But I promised that this would only take
maybe an hour, and we're coming up close to times.
So I want to ask you about your books.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Oh okay. I belonged to our writer's group. I've been
I belonged to writer's group for eleven years. And so
last fall we went to the mountains for our writer's
retreat with us and we had taken prompts and it
just seemed like we all kept writing about miracles, you know,

(57:38):
I mean, it just kept happening. And so one of
us said, you know, we should write a book about miracles.
That's a good idea. Yeah, that's a real good idea.
And so we all had had stories, you know, that
we could share. So when we went home, we started
working on our book, you know, of miracles, and you know,

(58:00):
ended up naming it Miracles among Us Words of Wonder
and Wisdom, and we are the mystic voices. So I
co offered you know in that, and now we're working
and that and that you can get that all Amazon. Okay,
so I got published. Well, we all had more miracle
stories in US. So we're working on our second miracle

(58:20):
book is a follow up to the first one.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Awesome, So I will I will link in the show
notes to your website and your book.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Thank youank you very much. I appreciate that. We thank
you very much.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
As at least I could do. You're giving me an
hour of your time and letting me ask you all
these questions.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Oh cool, I'm glad to do it. I'm delighted to
do it.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Yeah, did you have anything else you wanted to talk
about tonight?

Speaker 2 (58:48):
No, I think that about does it. I think I
got all the other things that I do talk in
there the conversation. So anyway, I really appreciate you letting
me come and share stories.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
I really appreciate you coming because this has just been
delightful and I don't use that word very often, so
it really has.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
I really really had fun.

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