4 Soles 4 Humanidades

El mundo y la humanidad tuvieron varios intentos de creación que nuestros antepasados llamaron soles, cada sol era representado con una deidad y una humanidad diferente, y cada sol termino con una catástrofe y humanidad que quedaron plasmados a lo largo de miles de años

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The legend of the four suns isa history of Mesoamerican mythology. It was
especially significant in Aztec and Toltec sculpture. This legend narrates the different eras through
which the world has passed humanity,each being dominated by a sun or a

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main god and just as each eraalso ends in a song. The first

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nahui ozelotl sun or four jaguar.They tell these mythical legends that in this
first era the world was inhabited byvery large people, by giants. This

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era, this sun was ruled byTezcatlipoca, the jaguar god, and it
is said that this era ended whenOtezcatlipoca, the sun becomes a jaguar and
destroys these giants, devouring them andsubmerging the world in darkness, as it

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was said that these giants could notrender the proper cult or sacrifice for the
gods that inhabited that era. Thesecond Nahui Ecatl sun, or also four

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winds. It is said that thissecond era was ruled by Quetzalcoatl, the
god of the wind. During thistime, human beings lived n n n
n n ns. But this eraends with a very impressive cataclysm of hurricanes

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and windstorms that destroyed the world.Just as that humanity did not worship or
respect its gods, so humans wereturned into monkeys to survive, and so

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our primate brothers, which we knowtoday, remain as a witness to that
humanity. After two or two.The third Nahui Kiahwitl sun or four fire

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showers. This third sun was dominatedby Tlalock, the rain god. In
this age, humanity lived until theworld was destroyed by a rain of fire
and volcanic lava. Human beings weretransformed into ships in order to escape destruction,

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thus being the end of the thirdSun, raining fire and volcanic lava,
destroying a humanity. The fourth Sunnahui atl or four waters. It

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is said that in the fourth era, this world was ruled by Chalchutlipe,
the goddess of water and rivers,Tláloc' s wife, Tláloc' s
companion. This was an account thatends in a great flood that flooded the

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whole world. Human beings became fishin order to survive this flood. And
those who were saved, who manageto save themselves from this cataclysm, because
they give way to a new humanity, to a new creation the Fifth Sun,

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Nahui Ollin or four movements. Thislegend tells that it is the present
age in which we are living atthis moment, that it is governed under
the Fifth Sun by tonatiu the Godof the Sun, according to many ancient

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and current prophecies, because they saythat this era or this humanity will also
end at some point and will endwith great earthquakes and great movements on earth,

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thanks to the movement of the Sun, thus having the end of perhaps
what is our present humanity, inorder to give way to a new humanity,

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to a new era saw these legendsof the four Suns, for it
reflects a cyclical vision of time inMesoamerica mythology, in the cultures of what
today is Mexico, where the worldis constantly destroyed and recreated. Each era
brings new forms of life with itand thus also ends in a catastrophe,

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emphasizing the impermanence and constant change ofthe universe consitu taste, these stories in

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different nations, cultures of Old Vayaare also recorded, not only in the
cultures of Mesoamerica, but also inother cultures, as this story of the
so- called water sun tells,where the world is flooded. Well,
there are also records in historical books, in others or in other parts of

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the world, as there is inthe Bible, which speak of the great
flood, where I have not createdan ark and saves a certain part of
mankind among animals, plants and theirloved ones by divine order. And when

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this cataclysm happens, well, theycreate such a new humanity. Such records
also remain in many parts of theworld, thus creating a Union, perhaps
with different visions, with different experiences, with different protagonists who are also saved

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or who seek the way to besaved when these cataclysms conclude, as they
give way to a new humanity,to a new era. Being so,
then, it could be said alittle more conscious, because, because supposedly

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these cataclysms, because they are causedby the gods, it is a punishment
go for the humans who live intotal darkness, who are not enlightened,
who do not pay tribute to thesecataclysms, because they are created by some

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deity, by some spirit, bysome god. Beyond, perhaps from our
understanding, there is a very interestingdoubt here, for example, we do
not know if these cataclysms they,because they attribute it to deities, to

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gods who are upset by humanity,but we also do not know if it
is a natural cause, not acause of the natural world. The question
and answer is made to perhaps beable to understand it, to be able

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to open the mind perhaps and tobe able to imagine how a god creates
a humanity and so on, forit also destroys it. Likewise, he
realizes that humanity or that humanity isnot prepared and he is losing certain values,

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these attributes that these gods or thesedeities gave to those humanities, as
for example, also so many storieslike this one that I have just told
you about the sun of water thathas an incredible parallelism with this great universal

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flood. Well, so also inmany parts of the world it is told
truth this is not my history,this can be researched well in many parts
of the world also it is toldthat before us and also with us,
there lived so huge people, giantpeople, of which, then, there

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is a record here in the Mesoamericaculture, what is today Mexico, because
they knew them as Kinnametzin, whowere very great people, created by ancient
gods and who were a humanity beforeus. Likewise, also, for example,

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in the Bible, they speak aboutthe children of the Angels, these
angels who decide to go down andprocreate with human women, with simple women,
and when they give birth well,these beings, because they begin to

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have an incredible height and Wow,m begins to create chaos in the world
all combine or all share. Itis a small part, but they live
or live it in a different ordifferent way. This is where I tell
you to keep your mind wide open. Take this example where angels come to

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their own with humans and have giantchildren or descendants. Well here, in
Mesoamerica, because they believed that theywere also these giants, an ancient creation
of the gods, of the deities. They begin to create chaos because it

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is very difficult for humans to inventthem, very difficult to keep them,
to be able to feed them,to be able to sustain them. It
is very complicated to create chaos becausethey begin to end Go, because they
begin to end the needs of thesame humans, of the normal ones.

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The food begins to run out,the plants begin to run out, many
things begin to run out and theworld begins to enter into chaos. Right
here, also in Mexico, thereare communities where they tell these stories,
also where they combine or share ormeet these people, these giants. It

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is very curious, for example,already later the Bible speaks, that the
Bible, and also here, inMexico, what was Mesoamerica, because thanks
to this great universal flood, becausethese giants were erased from the face of

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the Earth. These deities God,as told in the Bible, Chalchitlicue,
as the stories in Mesoamerica or Tlalotell, make it rain for fifty-
two years, the earth begins toflood and only a few can be saved,

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either by luck or by support.Thus divine, receiving no signal advice
to be saved. And just so, the people who lose their lives,
who lose the battle in this cataclysm, for they are the people who should

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not have followed as these giants are, as they are not the people who
did not have a fair judgment onthese deities, who lost respect, do
not even talk about losing respect forthese deities. And that is why these
deities as they had created that veryhumanity. Well, that' s how

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they destroy it, too, overtime. It is very curious and it
is very unique these types of stories, because whether one investigates or one reads
in different parts of the world,because they lived the same thing, or
lived the same cataclysm, but intheir own way, in different ways,

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with different protagonists, with different characters, who were saved, who were helped,
but always respecting this that they saythese deities, because they do.
To end something bad that is happeningin the world with humanity. After this,

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these saved, well, they createa different kind of consciousness and create
a new humanity. And that isjust how time evolves, and humanity evolves
people. It is very curious,for example, this also of what they

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tell that there was a strong cataclysmof hurricanes and winds and that the humans
of that time, as punishment,were transformed into r s s s.
In apes. And these apes,as we know them today, are the
living witness of that humanity before us. Currently there are many experiments that they

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do with this type of primates,where they can communicate even with signs Go.
They have a perhaps limited intelligence,no, but it does give a
little fear or strangeness, because onecan easily identify oneself, one can know

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and identify easily. To the extentthat these characters, these current apes,
can communicate with us through signs,through looks, it would be very very
crazy or very interesting to be ableto hear a story of their own voice,

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which is perhaps impossible. He goesto himself, because I think he
is teaching them, but they alreadylie or already have an awareness of their
own nature. It' s alittle complicated and strange and, as I
tell you, this is to have, for example, an open mind,

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because many might call you or judgeyou from the madman or is. It
is very rare to talk about thesekinds of issues, but without a doubt,
it is also interesting and curious toknow how they say that these deities,
that is, someone controlled the rain, someone controlled the fire or someone

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controlled the wind, and they attributeit to a deity to someone who is
beyond our understanding. These stories arepreserved through oral tradition and also through drawings
of petro- etched stones, preciselyfrom the archaeological ruins we know that also

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tell many stories, these ruins,of these pyramids, as we could say.
Well, they also contain a verycurious and interesting story about our past,
about our traditions and the awareness wehave or are acquiring, because consciousness

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also after each cataclysm, as itevolves. It' s very curious.
I' m very intrigued by thesestories and well, I hope you'
re not calling me crazy. Ihope you' re not telling me this
friend is smoked, he' sin another wave, but rather I ask

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you to have the conscience or theopen mind, not be able to think
and be able to ask you howand combine many stories about this great universal
flood, in India, in China, in Mesoamerica, in different cultures,

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in different cultures, in different nationscultures, because they lived this not this
cataclysm that remains in different records,even in the Bible with the Ark that
they create. Well, many havea similar parallel to themselves, as do
the rains of fire. Just asthis is also the creations of the humanities.

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Not how the gods have tried tocreate the human and seek that satisfaction.
Then ask us what these deities werelooking for to create these cataclysms and

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thus also to evolve our consciousness.Today it is said that this sun that
we live in four movements, thewit Dolin, will end by movements of
the earth caused by the sun byTonatium. We don' t know this,

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but it also gives us a lotof thinking. At some point perhaps
this humanity we know or as weknow it, will end up with a
cataclysm and a new era will emerge, more conscious and more advanced humans learning

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from the mistakes that have been madeover time. My question here is with
what own deposit these deities would do, with what, with what feeling,
with what cause one can justify andalso know the fear of knowing whether we

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are going to live it or not. But go is very curious, it
is very interesting and it is veryintriguing not how in all the cultures of
the world this certain type of cataclysmsor stories, because they have something similar,
even if they are not the samestory and even if they are not

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the same, they have something completelythat is very similar, just as the
giants were. There is also talkof giants in other parts of the world,
in the Bible, in here,in ancient legends of Mesoamerica, in
Argentina, they speak of communities ofgiants, of very large people. And

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if that' s registered, it' s because well, because all the
people of that time saw it,they lived it. And this is,
then, as I say to youto paint me crazy, to say this
compadre, I think it is alreadywrong, but we should think or analyze

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a little bit, to have themand say good, because, if several
cultures from different parts of the worldtalk about this great flood, because it
was because it happened all over theworld and it was not only Noah with
the animals and with his loved onesand plants that were saved, but in

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different parts of the world it wasthere were different people who were saved and
those people who were saved met withother people. Maybe they don' t
speak the same language, maybe it' s complicated, but we' re
talking about cataclysm or maybe the samething. Not everyone who attributes cataclysm to
his deity and in that too sharesmuch that humanity is in a dark place,

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is losing values, consciousness. Andgood. Likewise, then, those
who are being saved or those whoare saved by luck, fortunately, because
they create a new humanity, anew consciousness in which, then, they
are precisely discarding the evil of thepast and creating or feeling or imagining something

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new for these humanities. Not muchis being said about these types of issues
at present, precisely because they arehighly punished, highly catalogued. It'
s like I tell you, theycan judge anyone, they can judge anyone
crazy. But then, having anopen mind, that' s all I

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' m asking. Keep an openmind. Wow, it' s unique
to be able to know about thepast as well and not like that anyway.
There are also prophecies about the future, about how. Maybe this is
gonna end anyway. The Bible itselfhas it, anyway. We' re

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looking at it over time. But, well, this is crazy. This
blows my head off and gives mea lot. He wants to get this
out of me a lot more thantalk, a lot more subject, more
to talk about. It' sbut don' t go, I didn
' t bother you, I didn' t get this out of the air,

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as they say, not out ofthe picture. So, good morning,
good afternoon, good night when you' re listening to this topic,
this podcast. I' m sendingyou a big hug. I hope you
find yourself in the best and welisten to each other to keep talking about
these kinds of issues. That's very, very interesting. Take care

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