June 12, 2025 • 46 mins
Seizures and autoimmune challenges are now at epidemic levels, and the medical (both human and veterinary) are looking for answers in all the wrong places. It's not about treating the symptom; it's about preventing it with lifestyle and nutrition. So many details here. If your pet, or your family member suffers from these, you need to watch!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Any health related information on the following show provides general
information only. Content presented on any show by any host
or guests should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.
Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,
or treatment program. And now it's time for Pet Health
(00:30):
Cafe where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host,
Bill the Pet Health Guru.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And welcome to Pet Health Cafe, the show where your
Pet has a Voice. This is Bill the Pet Health Guru,
or another exciting show on this platform. We've got a
great topic for you tonight, something that is very very
important and unfortunately very prevalent today. As always, I would
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love to share. Go ahead and share it with all
your friends right now so they can jump in on
this and add their comments to the chat room. Also
like and subscribe so you don't miss another one like
it says on the Chiron. Lease share, like and comment,
because that's important tonight. It's been brought to my attention,
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and of course I've been seeing it for quite some
time now. There's a proliferation, almost an epidemic, of a
couple of different if you want to call them, diseases.
You can but it's basically we're seeing symptoms that are very,
very disturbing, and unfortunately the medical community and their great
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wisdom are really looking for the answers to this problem
in all the wrong places. And with that being said,
I want to bring in my special guests tonight, doctor
Michael dam it's going to help us find what the
right places really are.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
How you doing, Doc, I'm doing well, Bill does he day?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah? They all seem to be that way, too many
of them. And what we're going to talk about tonight
is actually one of the symptoms that we're seeing a
lot of that. Like I say that, the medical community
seems to be looking in the wrong places for answers,
and it's become almost epidemic in the last couple of years,
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but realistically you go back twenty years ago or more
and it really wasn't a problem. And that is seizures.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Am I right, Yeah, you're absolutely right, Bill. It's really increasing,
like you said, epidemically in numbers, and you know it's
you know, the cases are becoming more complex man, actually
even more difficult to control. So the seizure cases is
not only increasing in number, but in severity. So that's
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very challenging for us and doing our work.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And seizures themselves are not really a disease but just
a symptom, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yes, they are, and it's a pretty severe symptom. It's actually,
you know, where an area the brain is heightened in
activity and there's neurologic activities spontaneously going off, and you know,
it's one of the most alarming symptoms that an animal
guardian can see in their pet. It's just, you know,
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you feel so helpless when they go through these often
grand mal seizures, which you know, I'm sure we'll go into.
There are many types of seizures, but especially the real
grand mal ones.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
They're quite alarming, you know, It's it's amazing and I
kind of I actually finished writing an article last night
a little bit touching on seizures, but also the other
part of that that comes along with that, I think
is autoimmune seem to be very very related, and it's
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something that twenty thirty forty years ago, neither one of
those terms were used at all. And my question Mike
and I questioned in the article is why is the
body suddenly attacking itself, destroying itself and breaking down the
way it is with both all these autoimmune diseases and
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seizures together, because they do. I believe they do go
hand in hand, don't they.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Oh, they sure do, because you know what it is
is I'm sure we'll get into. It's often external agents
outside of the body that are building up in terms
of stress levels on our animal patients, and that's leading
to you know, a breakdown in the immune system or
or or lowering of the seizure threshold in other words,
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where different external stressors and factors and toxins all add
up and then we end up having these immune system
issues or if the nervous system is affected, you know,
a seizure disorder.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And yeah, I mean, and of course the you know,
and of course you're dealing in homeopathy and energy, of course,
the owner's energy. It just it's off the chart at
those moments, isn't it. And it's even transmitting back through absolutely.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You know, there's a lot of panic, a lot of fear,
you know obviously, and anxiety and you know, again we've
talked in other shows about how animals are literally psychic
sponges and taking on our own stuff and much less.
When you see these seizures sometimes it's a reflection of
what's going on in the house. I mean, well, what's
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going on in the guardian's life. So you know, we
talk about animals being our teachers. So you know, what
is a seizure. It's out of control nervous system activity.
So sometimes if we look at the history in the
animal's life, that history thread goes even into the into
the guardian's life where things are just out of control.
And you know, that's how we look at it homeopathically,
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we look at a central thread that ties things together.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Now, as I said in the opening, of course, is
that the medical community seems to think that and approach
it from a medicine standpoint at but we just haven't
come up with the right rug drugs or the right
combinations of drugs to control this. And I don't believe
that they ever really look at the root cause, do they?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
No, not at all. In fact, you know, that's that's
definitely a disease. They try to look at the root
cause in terms of you know, they're going to recommend
a lot of testing there. You know, you often get
these clients will get referred to a neurologist, usually nowadays
much more quickly than they did years ago. You remember,
of course Bill years ago where specialists were rare. Now
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it's considered an allopathic. You know, broke on a standard
of practice if you don't refer a specialty case to
a specialist. So, in other words, once we start to
see seizuring animals that you know, general veterinarians are very
quick to say, you've got to go see a neurologist.
Now when the vet, when the client goes to see
a neurologist, you know, they get their standard blood tests
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and all that, but then the first thing they're going
to do is they're going to recommend an MRI, which
you know, in the vast majority of cases build for
and then people spend thousands of dollars on an MRI
and the animal has to be anesthetized when all the
drugs associated with that. But usually the results of the
MRI and the vast majority of cases doesn't really give
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us so much additional information that's going to change the
management from that conventional allopathic perspective. So in other words,
it usually just symptom management, not looking at the cause.
And that's what we call the definition of epilepsy is
seizure of unknown cause. From a convention medical perspective, and
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so most of these cases end up being lumped under that,
whereas you and I, which I'm sure we'll talk about
in the show, you know, can go into all sorts
of factors that are involved with these seizures that we
need to be looking at.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, well, when when you look at it, especially like
if you're looking at an MRI, if it's chemical basically
toxicity cause, drug caused, whatever, that's not going to show
up on an MRI, is it. No, No, You're basically
going to be looking for some sort of trauma or
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some sort of growth.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah, either a growth or you know, nonspecific inflammation. And
they do what's called a CSF tap, which is where
they get a sample of the fluid that circulates around
the brain and the spinal cord, and then sometimes they'll
find inflammation in those samples. But that again doesn't change
how it's managed. It's still managed with you know, a
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few anti convulsion drugs. You know, there's a few of
them out there, right. The drug of choice has changed
over the decades, but it's still the same idea where
you choose from a group of a few group of
medicines just like a person who went to a psychiatrist,
they would choose, you know, from a small group of antidepressants.
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It's the same thing with seizures. You know, there's a
few drugs that are used, and you know, in the
old days it was pheno barbital, a very strong toxic
drug on the liver, and nowadays the drug of like
the buzz drug of choice, which I don't think controls
them very well at all. In fact, that's why I
think we're seeing so much you know, resistant seizure cases
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is the drug Kepra, which is you know, less toxic
on the liver, but it doesn't really control the seizures
in my experience as well as it as well as
it's supposed to.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Well, it's funny because of course, you know, I've been
doing this for a long time, and when we started
to see seizures, you know, about ten, fifteen, twenty years ago,
like you say, phoena barbaratal was the number one recommended
drug to use, and when you looked up on the
FDA site or at the insert that goes into the
package listened at the top of the side effects were seizures,
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and more seizures and more severe steezers, right, Like, I
already have the seizures, Why do I want more? I mean,
that doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, like
I say, they're looking in the wrong place. I mean, it's.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Actually a drug like peanubo because that drug is just
directly toxic to the liver, and so you know, if
the liver is not working well and more poisons build
up in the system, those are going to cause seizures.
So that's probably how it's doing. How it's working from
a biochemical.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Exactly, it's it's it just doesn't make sense in many
of these cases. But when we're looking at this and
you and I look at it from basically an organic standpoint,
everything that goes into the body contributes to that body's
health or dis ease, doesn't it absolutely?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You know, everything, as I say, everything you put on
or in or topically apply or inject, all of those
factors go into what you just said.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, now you did an interesting post that I commented on,
you know, with the ingredient level or the ingredient label
on the average preventive injectable prevention drug, and why would anybody,
why would any sane person put that in their body?
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And I asked the question. You know, I wrote back
to you and I said, why would any practitioner want
to put that into somebody else's body?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's it's last because it's so ludicrous. And then of
course some of the comments we're talking about the big
reason why, which we talk about all the time when
it comes to buy it or other you know, and
you know, conventional vets are closed off often to you know,
natural means of treating disease with foods and herbs. It's
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a brainwashing bill. And you know, even though you can
show that list to the people, you know, to the vets,
Now here's what you're injecting, right, those ingredients and what
they're gonna they're gonna look at you and say, oh okay,
and then go into the exam room and just go
ahead and do it again.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Well, I don't know, it's it's almost it's really scary
because it's it is, uh, a brainwashing type of thing.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah. I just thought that it was a comment up there,
and I think that we ought to address it in
as we go through the show. You know, what should
I give my dog instead of tepra? You know what?
First thing we have to look at and that you
and I look at. You get to look at the
lifestyle first, don't.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You absolutely all all the factors that again go on
in injected you know, topically, you know, the preventative model
of medicine for you know, most people in this country,
a lot of those factors, from the foods to you know,
other means of prevention and of course environmental exposure to toxins.
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All of those stressors have to be looked at because
they all can contribute to, you know, lowering that seizure
threshold and increasing the likelihood of seizure.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You know, it's interesting because you know, I know that
you you know, you're not discussed the show before we
went on, which is something that's a rarity in itself
because usually it's all spontaneous. But you know, in monitoring
a lot of the seizure groups, it's like the common thread.
The common questions are what kind of commercial pet food
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should I be feeding? You know, does this ingredient or
this ingredient create the problem? Then of course the next
one is, you know, which of the preventive medicines, UH
normally and flee and tick are going to be safer
than the other. And we all know that. You know
it's listed on the package that number one. It's not
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a preventive, but it's also it's a neurotoxin, which of
course is going to affect the brain. And you know
they're looking for these types of answers with one or
two small parameters and not looking at the overall lifestyle.
You know, when you look at a bag of dog food,
I don't care what it is, whether it's the prescription diets,
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whether it's the cheapest you know, big box store. There's
over two hundred chemicals that are not listed on that bag.
And you know, I've seen it recently that everybody's blaming
rosemary is one of a rosemary extracts as a preservative,
as like the evil thing. And I said, well, maybe
we just need to get rid of rosemary. You know,
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all the rosemary is in the world just got to
go away, because that are a cause of everything. But
why are they focusing in on a food, actually a
natural food that's been around forever. It's not like the
GMOs and the man made vegetables that they keep putting
into all these commercial foods. And why aren't we looking
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at a species of appropriate diet?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Start with absolutely the cornerstone of good health that we
talk about on certainly oh shows, that's where it all begins.
I mean, there are so many as you can I'm
sure go through Bill and your expertise of being a
nutritional guru is is all of those ingredients in the
process commercial foods, you know, the preservatives, the nitrites, the nitrates,
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and the you know, the colorings, the additives, the flavor enhancer,
the byproducts, all of them are just you know, loaded,
you know with seizure and immune autoimmune triggering potential ingredients.
And so it starts with food and so that's often
where obviously we want to make sure that these animals
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that start seizing that we put them on a species
appropriate high protein by fat, but you know, again low
carb because those carbs are full of you know, they
trigger inflammation. And you know, that's the cornerstone to start with.
That's not going to solve every season case. Obviously, there's
other you know, supports that need to go into play
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and other potential treatments with foods and herbs and homeopathy
and Chinese medicine. So you know, it's a it's really
we need to look at all of these, all of
these factors, all of these potential supports in addressing this
very difficult syndrome seen in our animals.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Well, you know, one of the things that want to
I want to bring up and is this something that
I discovered. Oh god, it's been fifteen twenty years ago
that there was a documentary done on I think Discovery
Channel and it happened to be on the potato chip industry.
And they were in this potato chip plant doing all
the new modern ways that they make them, the slicers
and the peelers, and the infrared and laser sensors that
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could spot the green and the you know, the bad
spots and all that sort of stuff, and all those potatoes,
of course, are obviously in those components are all waste products.
And of course they went through the whole process of
making a potato. But at the end of the program
they said, oh, and none of this goes to waste.
And then they actually showed that all this stuff was
through a grinder, gets put into a collection vessel, a
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huge one, I mean, you know, like the size of
a dumb truck, and they spray and add different preservatives
and stabilizers so that this stuff won't rock. And then
they say this all goes over to animal feed, which
today as of today, you know, again we're moving back
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and forth in this FDA USDA thing. Basically, your pet
food is not legally of food, it is a feed,
and so that that you know, when they went to
grain free and are using all these potato chip components,
and you know the other part of that, of course,
is the bad potato chips go into the same vat
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that they've been cooked in vegetable oil, which we know
how good that is for our bodies. I mean, we've
seen that correlated with a lot of other different diseases.
But that's on the back side that nobody would ever
know if it hadn't been on TV. And I can
guarantee you that ninety probably five percent or more of
the people that watched that show have a pet and
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didn't connect the dots. And that's where the travesy really
really starts. So when we come back from this break,
we'll get in dive into some of the foods and
then of course into the fixes. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 2 (20:54):
All right, and we're back here on a pet Heal's
Cafe to show where your pet as a voice. This
is Bill the Pet Health Guru, along with special guests
doctor Michael dimm and we're talking about seizures and seizure control,
elimination and prevention. Actually, by the time we finish this,
hopefully we'll get all of that stuff in again. I
want you to like share. I'm glad to see that
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in the chat room, we've already had some people that
are sharing their experiences with seizure animals. It's important that
we get this message out and of course like it again.
Put your comments in the comment boxes there on your
computer and we'll try to answer as many as we can.
And we were talking. We left with foods and fixes
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and that illustration with just the way food is processed
in a commercial food plant. And that's basically what dog
food companies are. That's a manufacturing facility. It's not a
nutritional like a huge kitchen. It's industrial I mean grinders
and you know, preserved foods coming in the door, and
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you know tons and tons and tons of vegetable waste, meat, waste, oils, fats,
all added into this slurry if you will, that they
run through these extrusion machines that basically make it into
that cute little either fishy shape if it's a cat
food or you know when a nice meaty nugget looking
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thing for your dog with all the colors and additives
added to it, I mean, it's it. And of course
on top of that, you're feeding that same blend, that
same mixture to your animal every single meal for who
knows how long, and all food brings good and bad
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to the table, even the best steak has got some
bad stuff in it. You know, the best, the cleanest
salmon's got some bad stuff in it. And if you
don't vary it, you don't get the cleansing. That's why
the rotation is so very very important. And most people
just don't realize that pet foods are primarily made from
food waste and inappropriate foods at at best. I mean,
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it's not you know, you see it. It's a you know,
look at your prescription diet. All of all these so
called prescription diets, they basically are almost all corn base.
Is that an appropriate food for a carnivore? Document?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
No, No, no, no. And in fact, what did Richard Pitcairn
used to call in his book, first edition of his
book the four d's that end up in pet foods
the dead, dying, disease, and disabled animals from you know,
rejection of the human human food industry. You know, God knows,
you know, you don't even know what's going to end
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up in a dog or a cat food bag or can.
I mean, many years ago there was a whole controversy
about even hate to say it, but I mean it happened,
but euthanized animals and ending up in pet foods.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Well that there was a preventive doctor. Dim don't you
know that phena barbaratall? Did they put those animals down with,
including the horses. That's why we can't sell horse meat
in the United States because all of our horses are
shot up with antibiotics, steroids, hormones and then of course
eventually put to sleep. And you can't use the old
fashioned shotgun anymore because that's not humane. We have to
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give him that shot of pheno barbatol, so we got
to you know, we're already treating him before they have seizures,
So why do we still have seizures?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Wow, it's funny. Yeah, Well, I mean, you know, like
you said, you covered that the food industry as well
as you can, and as I said, and then you
know what happens is, you know, if you just look
at it from a gut perspective, right Bill, is all
of the stressors that the wormings and the flea medicine,
heartworm medicine, the antibiotics, and the steroids these animals are
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off and on before they have seizures. In other words,
they're treated for many often many other conditions, and then
what happens is the gut becomes so imbalanced, the intestinal
lining becomes so leaky, you know, the leaky gut syndrome. Right,
You then get those toxins orbed across the bowel lining,
and then you get neurologic symptoms just from that changes
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in behavior, anxiety, you know, aggression, and then of course
the potential procedures. So very often we have to look
at the diet, the food, and the health of that
microbiome and the gut, you know, and being central to
a healthy brain and nervousness.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Well, you know the other thing too, is and because
of the comment they already came up here that you know,
she's been cooking for her animal for the last four years.
This didn't start with your current pat This started generations
before because all those drugs, all those preventive medicine things,
you know, from mom and grandmom, and they've been they
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have been piling on this stuff over the last forty years,
fifty years that I've been in the business. I mean,
we started out with almost no vaccinations, right, and use
the word I know, I used that word. I said,
you know, every now and then I slipped. But we
didn't use them. They weren't even available, right, and it's
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it's a crisis, you know, the spot on type clea products.
So the oral products were not available. You know, you
use a simple natural pyree from spray if you had
a problem or a shampoo spe were gone, you just
killed them and you didn't kill while doing it.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Over trall plus bill remember that product. Yeah, it's like
a spray right, yeah, use Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And then and the funny thing is is, of course
the veterinary brands and the over the counter brands they
were identical. But veterinarian brand was twice you know, at
least twice as expensive, you know, because they had a
different bottle and a different label, and it was recommended
by so and so. Wait, so was the other one too.
But nobody looked at the VET recommendation on the OTC one,
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you know, they just looked at it at well, I
just paid fifty dollars for a VET visit, so let
me you know, this one's got to be better because
he said it was right, you know. When we looked
at supplements, the same thing. When I was so in supplement,
it's like, how do you pick the supplements? Well, it
depends on what the salesman.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Told me right exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You know. Unfortunately that's where a lot of it lies.
The other thing that is going into the food type thing.
And I mentioned this because I mentioned Rosemary, you know,
that little hussy. Anyway, that herbs and botanicals are true foods.
They've been around forever, and they've been classified and vilified
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as being a problem in both our health and our
pets health, like it destroys what medicine is trying to
do well. The vegetables that they put into pet foods,
those are all man made. Those weren't around three thousand
years ago, four thousand years ago, five thousand years ago.
But those herbs and botanicals, you know, those were They're
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negative to the earth. And why we question it so rabidly,
you know? Oh you know I can't. I'm giving my
dog these medications that I have no clue what's in them.
I'm giving them a dog food that I have no idea,
or cat food that I have no idea the two
hundred plus chemicals on the backside, or the processes or
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anything else. But you want me to use romric, Oh
my god, I have to research that and I have
to ask if it's okay. I I just can't wrap
my head around that. I mean, I really just have
a problem with that that not only are the consumers unaware,
but then when we look at these professionals, okay, of
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what you're happen to be a part of that fraternity
that are supposedly the brightest of the bright the best
of the best, and they haven't done any recent they
haven't looked at anything that's really going to help their client.
And that poor little dog and that poor little kitten
is not going to sit there and bitch and moan
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that you're not doing a good job. They have to
rely on us as pet owners to convey what they're feeling,
and we're completely in the dark.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
You're very true, very true, Bill, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
You know it's you know, I mean, this stuff is
you know, this is part of my I'm passionate about
this stuff because I see too much death and too
much destruction and the seizure, the seizure ing. You know,
once you get to that seizure point, you've got a
very very toxic animal.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yes, yes, that is absolutely true, and it's going to
take time to again, you know, help that animal. Starting
with the foundations of good foods and certainly there are
you know, herbals and other nutrients we can use to
help again raise that seizure threshold and remove the toxins.
But you know sometimes it takes you know, many months,
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for years even to really remove them all together. Think
about the role heavy metals and oh my god, you're
logic issues right building the heavy metals coming from those injections,
you know, in their role in these diseases, motal immune disease,
especially diseases of the nervous system, brain and the spinal cord.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
A little bit of mercury is in the in the
damn chem trails as well, you know, And it's it's
really you know, we really have to keep looking and
and you know, when you're looking at herbs and botanicals
and you're looking at even just real food, that rotation
is important with supplementation, with adding different herbs and botanicals,
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because the bodies is dynamic, it's changing from moment to moment.
So you start taking something for your heart, Okay, the
body is working on the heart. What's happening to your
liver or your kidney, what's happening to your adrenal gland,
what's happening to your brain? Your joints. I mean it's
you're always chasing something because I don't believe that it's
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possible for the bouty to be complete in homeostasis, especially
in today's world, because there's so many assaults.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yeah, I mean I was talking to her client yesterday.
I mean that she was saying how she had treated
her cat's lymphoma with with chemotherapy and it was in remission,
but now we were dealing with kidney. I didn't treat it.
I mean she came to me and so she came
to me and she wanted homeopathic treatment for the kidney
disease that the cat now has. And I said to
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her that it's all related. It's not you can't separate
them out like that. It's you know, it's it's the disease.
The imbalance is going to go from one part of
the body to the other, especially when we're using strong
drugs and chemo and strong surgeries. When that suppression occurs,
bill the body gets sicker at a deeper level. So
it's like I was trying to explain, and the cat
(31:51):
was still on predmazone and you know, for the for
the cancer to keep it a remission I'm selling her,
and she was. We were talking about, you know, the
role of protein and kidney disease diets and and it
was interesting that she was. I was trying to explain
to her that it's not that, I know it's a
little bit off topic, but not that it's the quality
of the protein, not the quantity of protein. And she
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was right on, you know, prescription kidney diets and all
of that. And you know the same goes true with
the seizures. It's the quality of what the protein is
that we're giving them. You know, that is going to
determine whether an animal continues to spiral downward with more
seizures or have the chance of recovery with again erbles
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and metallicals.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, okay, let's talk a little bit about the proteins.
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Speaker 2 (34:21):
Karin a pet healths cafe to show where your pet
has a voice. This is build a Pet Health Guru.
Along with doctor Michael Dimmon. We're talking about seizures and
of course there's a side note on that. You know,
autoimmune clicks in with that because actually if you're doing
a good job of trying to get rid of seizures.
Are the autoimmune diseases going to start to go away too?
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Absolutely, They're all very similar.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
It's all you know, the the immune you know, the
immune dysregulation where the immune system starts attacking the body's
own issues. All has that central threadbill of external toxicity
and poor diets and you know, powerful drugs. So once
we make progress with you know, herbs and foods, botanicals, homeopathy,
(35:07):
you know we're able to you know, kind of reregulate
the bodies immune systems so that you know, it can heal,
its it can heal and we could have health again.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Well to the other thing. And you know, we were
talking about herbs and botanicals and proteins, and I'll get
into proteins during a second. But with homeopathy, you're battling
the body's energy and you're trying to change that as well,
aren't you.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Well, you're not. What you're doing is is you're trying
to restore energetic health in other words, restore the health
of the life force, or you want to use Chinese
medicine terminology, you want to restore the flow of chi
throughout the body. And so when there's blocked energy or
imbalanced energy, then that's when we see you know, biochemical
(35:52):
changes and disease. So you know, we're really trying to
just get back to that free flow of energy where
the body is in an uninhibited, unobstructed state as best
as possible, where function can be optimal. And so that's
our goal with homeopathy and with any and that's the
way that you know, the foods and the earth work too,
but at a at a at a functional level, and
(36:15):
then the homeopathy is working at an energetic level exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
You know. And now I want to get into the
proteins and and you know, I see so many posts.
You know, my dog is allergic to this and allergic
to that or has sensitivity to this, and they're looking
at the food. Let's say, just take chicken. Chicken is
a big one. Oh, my dog can't have chicken because
it's you know, a bad protein. It's not the chicken,
it's the chemicals that they add to the feed and
(36:42):
to the processing. You know, people don't realize even their
own eggs in a supermarket. First off, those chickens were
raised on GMO corn and soy. You don't think that
has an effect on what nutrients are in that egg,
and then when they collect them, they run it through
a chloric chlorine back and then put radiation on it
(37:03):
to kill all the bacteria. Now that eggshell is also permeable,
which means that things that it's exposed to will go
through the eggshell. You have you ever wondered why supermarket
eggs have got a very very bleached look in the yolk.
Could it be the bleach itself? So when we look
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at the proteins, you have to look at making sure
that they're clean, they're not allergic to Allergies are nothing
more than another sign of detox. The body's been overloaded.
Let me give rid of it. It's coming out of
the body. So you know, you and I have to
guess at what they've been doing. And okay, so I've
been feeding XYZ prescription diet for the last two years
(37:49):
and I got all these allergy symptoms, which one of
those two hundred plus chemicals plus what's already on the label,
doctor dim is causing the problem.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, the smartest guy out there, right.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
How about the client that says, well, my dog can
eat raw Every time he eat raw food, he gets diarrhea.
I mean, that's another one.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Fantastic exactly. That's cleansing right right, you know, yes, you
have to put it. But you know the other thing
is we've been programmed that dogs stool is supposed to
be and cats stools are supposed to be hard as rocks,
so you can clean them up easier. That was by
one of those companies that added the stool hardening agents
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and then went to the local governments for cleanup laws
so they could use that as a sales pitch back
in the nineteen seventies. Wow, it's horrendous what they've done
to our animals, unfortunately. And each one of these things,
you don't know what you know, each one of these
companies we've got their own excitotoxins, which are the food
(38:51):
additives that makes them addicted to certain foods. Of course cats,
that's especially bad. Okay, how do those combine with the medications,
how do those combined with the with the environmental chemicals
that were you know, both inside and out. You know,
your cleaning materials, you're why did you wash your dog's
bed in you know, did you use a fabric software?
(39:13):
Did you use a uh, you know, a dryer sheet.
All that stuff is in that and those are all
contributing factors. So the protein isn't the big thing because
those are as you mentioned, those are all going in
a lot. Others are going in through the skin. That's
one of the biggest areas of the absorption. Absolutely, you
know we didn't you know ourselves. It's one of the
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biggest areas that our body needs. We need vitamin D.
We make it when we're in sunlight. Let's block it.
Why are we sick?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Right? Right? You know?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
You know I heard and you'll love this. I heard
a so called veterinary nutritionists talking about that the proteins
that they put in these foods, these isolate proteins, you know,
predigested all of that sort of stuff. Uh, the hydrolyze
that dogs can't synthesize the amino acids that they need,
(40:05):
but with these blends, they can synthesize the amino acids
that they need. I went, huh, you just contradicted yourself, right,
And the discussion was about rotating proteins. You know, you
shouldn't rotate, you don't have you don't have to rotate,
and probably shouldn't. But every food brings good and bad.
(40:26):
We don't even know this bad stuff in most cases, right, right, right,
but we know we have to get rid of it
because if it builds up in the body, you have
a reaction which starts. We can start as simple as
vomiting and diarrhea and go as far as those seizures
and even death might correct absolute. Yeah, okay, So I
(40:49):
know there was a couple of other questions and comments
that came up there. If we can get them up
on the board, maybe we can address them. Because we're
we always run out of time on this show. I
don't know why this one.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
This one needs two shows. We didn't get into We
didn't get into some of the supplements, the CBD, the
oh yeah, some of the herbs. Well, here we go, Norma.
It's all about the input. No disease that is caused
by yeah, yeah, well absolutely, that's what we're talking about. Yeah, sure, yeah.
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What do you consider quality proteins.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Bill grass, fat grass, finished pasture raised, Absolutely nothing, that's
ultra process Okay, if it's kibble considered, it has no
usable protein. That's my that's my recommendation. Because we have
no clue because even if it says something like chicken
(41:44):
meal or chicken buy product meal or beef. Those are
those batches of rendered products are not exclusive to that protein.
Whatever came in on the dump truck that day, you know,
if it came from a chicken farm, you probably have chicken.
But who knows what else came from the fourteen supermarkets
and the ten restaurants that they picked up. Two they
got mixed in with it. So none of it's pure,
(42:07):
none of it. And like you mentioned, I mean things
like CBD oil. Of course that that just helps, you know,
activate where the inflammation is and then our body can
start to fight it, you know. And of course you
know we have to understand a lot of these chemicals
are now crossing the blood brain barrier. Yes, and of
(42:28):
course seizures are brain going a month, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
It sure is. And then I wanted to get this
line in Bill before the end of the show. Was
you know, like my colleague Stephen Blake said, relative to
all the all the pesticides and the wormings and the
flee in tick medicines, we don't want to burn down
the house, meaning the animal right to kill the ants.
And that's what we're doing when we use these really
strong chemicals and drugs to act in the name of
(42:57):
prevent disease prevention when they're actually causing such chronic ill
health and in our pits.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
So, doctor Dimon, as you know we're at in the show,
how can people reach you and how can we help them?
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Well, they can go to my website which is doctor
dim dot com, d O C T O R D
y M dot com that has all my information and
my and my contact information and more information on my product.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
And of course you can reach me through obviously pet
Health Cafe, my Paleo Pet or Biocomplete Natural Products which
is our sponsors. You know. Again, share this with everybody
you can. I'm available for consultations. I know dodtr DIM
does consultations. And let's make your pets seizure free. Let's
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sake get the goal for this year. But that being said,
doctor dim Pleasure is always having you on and we'll
we'll be up again hopefully in another week.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Good night, everybody, Good night.
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Cafe where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host,
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
And welcome to Pet Health Cafe, the show where your
Pet has a Voice. This is Bill the Pet Health Guru,
or another exciting show on this platform. We've got a
great topic for you tonight, something that is very very
important and unfortunately very prevalent today. As always, I would
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love to share. Go ahead and share it with all
your friends right now so they can jump in on
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it says on the Chiron. Lease share, like and comment,
because that's important tonight. It's been brought to my attention,
(01:23):
and of course I've been seeing it for quite some
time now. There's a proliferation, almost an epidemic, of a
couple of different if you want to call them, diseases.
You can but it's basically we're seeing symptoms that are very,
very disturbing, and unfortunately the medical community and their great
(01:47):
wisdom are really looking for the answers to this problem
in all the wrong places. And with that being said,
I want to bring in my special guests tonight, doctor
Michael dam it's going to help us find what the
right places really are.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
How you doing, Doc, I'm doing well, Bill does he day?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah? They all seem to be that way, too many
of them. And what we're going to talk about tonight
is actually one of the symptoms that we're seeing a
lot of that. Like I say that, the medical community
seems to be looking in the wrong places for answers,
and it's become almost epidemic in the last couple of years,
(02:31):
but realistically you go back twenty years ago or more
and it really wasn't a problem. And that is seizures.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Am I right, Yeah, you're absolutely right, Bill. It's really increasing,
like you said, epidemically in numbers, and you know it's
you know, the cases are becoming more complex man, actually
even more difficult to control. So the seizure cases is
not only increasing in number, but in severity. So that's
(03:02):
very challenging for us and doing our work.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And seizures themselves are not really a disease but just
a symptom, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yes, they are, and it's a pretty severe symptom. It's actually,
you know, where an area the brain is heightened in
activity and there's neurologic activities spontaneously going off, and you know,
it's one of the most alarming symptoms that an animal
guardian can see in their pet. It's just, you know,
(03:30):
you feel so helpless when they go through these often
grand mal seizures, which you know, I'm sure we'll go into.
There are many types of seizures, but especially the real
grand mal ones.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
They're quite alarming, you know, It's it's amazing and I
kind of I actually finished writing an article last night
a little bit touching on seizures, but also the other
part of that that comes along with that, I think
is autoimmune seem to be very very related, and it's
(04:05):
something that twenty thirty forty years ago, neither one of
those terms were used at all. And my question Mike
and I questioned in the article is why is the
body suddenly attacking itself, destroying itself and breaking down the
way it is with both all these autoimmune diseases and
(04:26):
seizures together, because they do. I believe they do go
hand in hand, don't they.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Oh, they sure do, because you know what it is
is I'm sure we'll get into. It's often external agents
outside of the body that are building up in terms
of stress levels on our animal patients, and that's leading
to you know, a breakdown in the immune system or
or or lowering of the seizure threshold in other words,
(04:54):
where different external stressors and factors and toxins all add
up and then we end up having these immune system
issues or if the nervous system is affected, you know,
a seizure disorder.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
And yeah, I mean, and of course the you know,
and of course you're dealing in homeopathy and energy, of course,
the owner's energy. It just it's off the chart at
those moments, isn't it. And it's even transmitting back through absolutely.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You know, there's a lot of panic, a lot of fear,
you know obviously, and anxiety and you know, again we've
talked in other shows about how animals are literally psychic
sponges and taking on our own stuff and much less.
When you see these seizures sometimes it's a reflection of
what's going on in the house. I mean, well, what's
(05:46):
going on in the guardian's life. So you know, we
talk about animals being our teachers. So you know, what
is a seizure. It's out of control nervous system activity.
So sometimes if we look at the history in the
animal's life, that history thread goes even into the into
the guardian's life where things are just out of control.
And you know, that's how we look at it homeopathically,
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we look at a central thread that ties things together.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Now, as I said in the opening, of course, is
that the medical community seems to think that and approach
it from a medicine standpoint at but we just haven't
come up with the right rug drugs or the right
combinations of drugs to control this. And I don't believe
that they ever really look at the root cause, do they?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
No, not at all. In fact, you know, that's that's
definitely a disease. They try to look at the root
cause in terms of you know, they're going to recommend
a lot of testing there. You know, you often get
these clients will get referred to a neurologist, usually nowadays
much more quickly than they did years ago. You remember,
of course Bill years ago where specialists were rare. Now
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it's considered an allopathic. You know, broke on a standard
of practice if you don't refer a specialty case to
a specialist. So, in other words, once we start to
see seizuring animals that you know, general veterinarians are very
quick to say, you've got to go see a neurologist.
Now when the vet, when the client goes to see
a neurologist, you know, they get their standard blood tests
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and all that, but then the first thing they're going
to do is they're going to recommend an MRI, which
you know, in the vast majority of cases build for
and then people spend thousands of dollars on an MRI
and the animal has to be anesthetized when all the
drugs associated with that. But usually the results of the
MRI and the vast majority of cases doesn't really give
(07:41):
us so much additional information that's going to change the
management from that conventional allopathic perspective. So in other words,
it usually just symptom management, not looking at the cause.
And that's what we call the definition of epilepsy is
seizure of unknown cause. From a convention medical perspective, and
(08:01):
so most of these cases end up being lumped under that,
whereas you and I, which I'm sure we'll talk about
in the show, you know, can go into all sorts
of factors that are involved with these seizures that we
need to be looking at.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, well, when when you look at it, especially like
if you're looking at an MRI, if it's chemical basically
toxicity cause, drug caused, whatever, that's not going to show
up on an MRI, is it. No, No, You're basically
going to be looking for some sort of trauma or
(08:33):
some sort of growth.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Yeah, either a growth or you know, nonspecific inflammation. And
they do what's called a CSF tap, which is where
they get a sample of the fluid that circulates around
the brain and the spinal cord, and then sometimes they'll
find inflammation in those samples. But that again doesn't change
how it's managed. It's still managed with you know, a
(08:56):
few anti convulsion drugs. You know, there's a few of
them out there, right. The drug of choice has changed
over the decades, but it's still the same idea where
you choose from a group of a few group of
medicines just like a person who went to a psychiatrist,
they would choose, you know, from a small group of antidepressants.
(09:17):
It's the same thing with seizures. You know, there's a
few drugs that are used, and you know, in the
old days it was pheno barbital, a very strong toxic
drug on the liver, and nowadays the drug of like
the buzz drug of choice, which I don't think controls
them very well at all. In fact, that's why I
think we're seeing so much you know, resistant seizure cases
(09:39):
is the drug Kepra, which is you know, less toxic
on the liver, but it doesn't really control the seizures
in my experience as well as it as well as
it's supposed to.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Well, it's funny because of course, you know, I've been
doing this for a long time, and when we started
to see seizures, you know, about ten, fifteen, twenty years ago,
like you say, phoena barbaratal was the number one recommended
drug to use, and when you looked up on the
FDA site or at the insert that goes into the
package listened at the top of the side effects were seizures,
(10:14):
and more seizures and more severe steezers, right, Like, I
already have the seizures, Why do I want more? I mean,
that doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, like
I say, they're looking in the wrong place. I mean, it's.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Actually a drug like peanubo because that drug is just
directly toxic to the liver, and so you know, if
the liver is not working well and more poisons build
up in the system, those are going to cause seizures.
So that's probably how it's doing. How it's working from
a biochemical.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Exactly, it's it's it just doesn't make sense in many
of these cases. But when we're looking at this and
you and I look at it from basically an organic standpoint,
everything that goes into the body contributes to that body's
health or dis ease, doesn't it absolutely?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You know, everything, as I say, everything you put on
or in or topically apply or inject, all of those
factors go into what you just said.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, now you did an interesting post that I commented on,
you know, with the ingredient level or the ingredient label
on the average preventive injectable prevention drug, and why would anybody,
why would any sane person put that in their body?
(11:32):
And I asked the question. You know, I wrote back
to you and I said, why would any practitioner want
to put that into somebody else's body?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
It's it's last because it's so ludicrous. And then of
course some of the comments we're talking about the big
reason why, which we talk about all the time when
it comes to buy it or other you know, and
you know, conventional vets are closed off often to you know,
natural means of treating disease with foods and herbs. It's
(12:02):
a brainwashing bill. And you know, even though you can
show that list to the people, you know, to the vets,
Now here's what you're injecting, right, those ingredients and what
they're gonna they're gonna look at you and say, oh okay,
and then go into the exam room and just go
ahead and do it again.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Well, I don't know, it's it's almost it's really scary
because it's it is, uh, a brainwashing type of thing.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah. I just thought that it was a comment up there,
and I think that we ought to address it in
as we go through the show. You know, what should
I give my dog instead of tepra? You know what?
First thing we have to look at and that you
and I look at. You get to look at the
lifestyle first, don't.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You absolutely all all the factors that again go on
in injected you know, topically, you know, the preventative model
of medicine for you know, most people in this country,
a lot of those factors, from the foods to you know,
other means of prevention and of course environmental exposure to toxins.
(13:04):
All of those stressors have to be looked at because
they all can contribute to, you know, lowering that seizure
threshold and increasing the likelihood of seizure.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You know, it's interesting because you know, I know that
you you know, you're not discussed the show before we
went on, which is something that's a rarity in itself
because usually it's all spontaneous. But you know, in monitoring
a lot of the seizure groups, it's like the common thread.
The common questions are what kind of commercial pet food
(13:33):
should I be feeding? You know, does this ingredient or
this ingredient create the problem? Then of course the next
one is, you know, which of the preventive medicines, UH
normally and flee and tick are going to be safer
than the other. And we all know that. You know
it's listed on the package that number one. It's not
(13:54):
a preventive, but it's also it's a neurotoxin, which of
course is going to affect the brain. And you know
they're looking for these types of answers with one or
two small parameters and not looking at the overall lifestyle.
You know, when you look at a bag of dog food,
I don't care what it is, whether it's the prescription diets,
(14:16):
whether it's the cheapest you know, big box store. There's
over two hundred chemicals that are not listed on that bag.
And you know, I've seen it recently that everybody's blaming
rosemary is one of a rosemary extracts as a preservative,
as like the evil thing. And I said, well, maybe
we just need to get rid of rosemary. You know,
(14:36):
all the rosemary is in the world just got to
go away, because that are a cause of everything. But
why are they focusing in on a food, actually a
natural food that's been around forever. It's not like the
GMOs and the man made vegetables that they keep putting
into all these commercial foods. And why aren't we looking
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at a species of appropriate diet?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Start with absolutely the cornerstone of good health that we
talk about on certainly oh shows, that's where it all begins.
I mean, there are so many as you can I'm
sure go through Bill and your expertise of being a
nutritional guru is is all of those ingredients in the
process commercial foods, you know, the preservatives, the nitrites, the nitrates,
(15:22):
and the you know, the colorings, the additives, the flavor enhancer,
the byproducts, all of them are just you know, loaded,
you know with seizure and immune autoimmune triggering potential ingredients.
And so it starts with food and so that's often
where obviously we want to make sure that these animals
(15:43):
that start seizing that we put them on a species
appropriate high protein by fat, but you know, again low
carb because those carbs are full of you know, they
trigger inflammation. And you know, that's the cornerstone to start with.
That's not going to solve every season case. Obviously, there's
other you know, supports that need to go into play
(16:04):
and other potential treatments with foods and herbs and homeopathy
and Chinese medicine. So you know, it's a it's really
we need to look at all of these, all of
these factors, all of these potential supports in addressing this
very difficult syndrome seen in our animals.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Well, you know, one of the things that want to
I want to bring up and is this something that
I discovered. Oh god, it's been fifteen twenty years ago
that there was a documentary done on I think Discovery
Channel and it happened to be on the potato chip industry.
And they were in this potato chip plant doing all
the new modern ways that they make them, the slicers
and the peelers, and the infrared and laser sensors that
(16:48):
could spot the green and the you know, the bad
spots and all that sort of stuff, and all those potatoes,
of course, are obviously in those components are all waste products.
And of course they went through the whole process of
making a potato. But at the end of the program
they said, oh, and none of this goes to waste.
And then they actually showed that all this stuff was
through a grinder, gets put into a collection vessel, a
(17:11):
huge one, I mean, you know, like the size of
a dumb truck, and they spray and add different preservatives
and stabilizers so that this stuff won't rock. And then
they say this all goes over to animal feed, which
today as of today, you know, again we're moving back
(17:35):
and forth in this FDA USDA thing. Basically, your pet
food is not legally of food, it is a feed,
and so that that you know, when they went to
grain free and are using all these potato chip components,
and you know the other part of that, of course,
is the bad potato chips go into the same vat
(17:56):
that they've been cooked in vegetable oil, which we know
how good that is for our bodies. I mean, we've
seen that correlated with a lot of other different diseases.
But that's on the back side that nobody would ever
know if it hadn't been on TV. And I can
guarantee you that ninety probably five percent or more of
the people that watched that show have a pet and
(18:20):
didn't connect the dots. And that's where the travesy really
really starts. So when we come back from this break,
we'll get in dive into some of the foods and
then of course into the fixes. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 2 (20:54):
All right, and we're back here on a pet Heal's
Cafe to show where your pet as a voice. This
is Bill the Pet Health Guru, along with special guests
doctor Michael dimm and we're talking about seizures and seizure control,
elimination and prevention. Actually, by the time we finish this,
hopefully we'll get all of that stuff in again. I
want you to like share. I'm glad to see that
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in the chat room, we've already had some people that
are sharing their experiences with seizure animals. It's important that
we get this message out and of course like it again.
Put your comments in the comment boxes there on your
computer and we'll try to answer as many as we can.
And we were talking. We left with foods and fixes
(21:37):
and that illustration with just the way food is processed
in a commercial food plant. And that's basically what dog
food companies are. That's a manufacturing facility. It's not a
nutritional like a huge kitchen. It's industrial I mean grinders
and you know, preserved foods coming in the door, and
(22:00):
you know tons and tons and tons of vegetable waste, meat, waste, oils, fats,
all added into this slurry if you will, that they
run through these extrusion machines that basically make it into
that cute little either fishy shape if it's a cat
food or you know when a nice meaty nugget looking
(22:22):
thing for your dog with all the colors and additives
added to it, I mean, it's it. And of course
on top of that, you're feeding that same blend, that
same mixture to your animal every single meal for who
knows how long, and all food brings good and bad
(22:43):
to the table, even the best steak has got some
bad stuff in it. You know, the best, the cleanest
salmon's got some bad stuff in it. And if you
don't vary it, you don't get the cleansing. That's why
the rotation is so very very important. And most people
just don't realize that pet foods are primarily made from
food waste and inappropriate foods at at best. I mean,
(23:06):
it's not you know, you see it. It's a you know,
look at your prescription diet. All of all these so
called prescription diets, they basically are almost all corn base.
Is that an appropriate food for a carnivore? Document?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
No, No, no, no. And in fact, what did Richard Pitcairn
used to call in his book, first edition of his
book the four d's that end up in pet foods
the dead, dying, disease, and disabled animals from you know,
rejection of the human human food industry. You know, God knows,
you know, you don't even know what's going to end
(23:42):
up in a dog or a cat food bag or can.
I mean, many years ago there was a whole controversy
about even hate to say it, but I mean it happened,
but euthanized animals and ending up in pet foods.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Well that there was a preventive doctor. Dim don't you
know that phena barbaratall? Did they put those animals down with,
including the horses. That's why we can't sell horse meat
in the United States because all of our horses are
shot up with antibiotics, steroids, hormones and then of course
eventually put to sleep. And you can't use the old
fashioned shotgun anymore because that's not humane. We have to
(24:17):
give him that shot of pheno barbatol, so we got
to you know, we're already treating him before they have seizures,
So why do we still have seizures?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Wow, it's funny. Yeah, Well, I mean, you know, like
you said, you covered that the food industry as well
as you can, and as I said, and then you
know what happens is, you know, if you just look
at it from a gut perspective, right Bill, is all
of the stressors that the wormings and the flea medicine,
heartworm medicine, the antibiotics, and the steroids these animals are
(24:46):
off and on before they have seizures. In other words,
they're treated for many often many other conditions, and then
what happens is the gut becomes so imbalanced, the intestinal
lining becomes so leaky, you know, the leaky gut syndrome. Right,
You then get those toxins orbed across the bowel lining,
and then you get neurologic symptoms just from that changes
(25:08):
in behavior, anxiety, you know, aggression, and then of course
the potential procedures. So very often we have to look
at the diet, the food, and the health of that
microbiome and the gut, you know, and being central to
a healthy brain and nervousness.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Well, you know the other thing too, is and because
of the comment they already came up here that you know,
she's been cooking for her animal for the last four years.
This didn't start with your current pat This started generations
before because all those drugs, all those preventive medicine things,
you know, from mom and grandmom, and they've been they
(25:45):
have been piling on this stuff over the last forty years,
fifty years that I've been in the business. I mean,
we started out with almost no vaccinations, right, and use
the word I know, I used that word. I said,
you know, every now and then I slipped. But we
didn't use them. They weren't even available, right, and it's
(26:07):
it's a crisis, you know, the spot on type clea products.
So the oral products were not available. You know, you
use a simple natural pyree from spray if you had
a problem or a shampoo spe were gone, you just
killed them and you didn't kill while doing it.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Over trall plus bill remember that product. Yeah, it's like
a spray right, yeah, use Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
And then and the funny thing is is, of course
the veterinary brands and the over the counter brands they
were identical. But veterinarian brand was twice you know, at
least twice as expensive, you know, because they had a
different bottle and a different label, and it was recommended
by so and so. Wait, so was the other one too.
But nobody looked at the VET recommendation on the OTC one,
(26:54):
you know, they just looked at it at well, I
just paid fifty dollars for a VET visit, so let
me you know, this one's got to be better because
he said it was right, you know. When we looked
at supplements, the same thing. When I was so in supplement,
it's like, how do you pick the supplements? Well, it
depends on what the salesman.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Told me right exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
You know. Unfortunately that's where a lot of it lies.
The other thing that is going into the food type thing.
And I mentioned this because I mentioned Rosemary, you know,
that little hussy. Anyway, that herbs and botanicals are true foods.
They've been around forever, and they've been classified and vilified
(27:35):
as being a problem in both our health and our
pets health, like it destroys what medicine is trying to
do well. The vegetables that they put into pet foods,
those are all man made. Those weren't around three thousand
years ago, four thousand years ago, five thousand years ago.
But those herbs and botanicals, you know, those were They're
(27:56):
negative to the earth. And why we question it so rabidly,
you know? Oh you know I can't. I'm giving my
dog these medications that I have no clue what's in them.
I'm giving them a dog food that I have no idea,
or cat food that I have no idea the two
hundred plus chemicals on the backside, or the processes or
(28:19):
anything else. But you want me to use romric, Oh
my god, I have to research that and I have
to ask if it's okay. I I just can't wrap
my head around that. I mean, I really just have
a problem with that that not only are the consumers unaware,
but then when we look at these professionals, okay, of
(28:41):
what you're happen to be a part of that fraternity
that are supposedly the brightest of the bright the best
of the best, and they haven't done any recent they
haven't looked at anything that's really going to help their client.
And that poor little dog and that poor little kitten
is not going to sit there and bitch and moan
(29:02):
that you're not doing a good job. They have to
rely on us as pet owners to convey what they're feeling,
and we're completely in the dark.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
You're very true, very true, Bill, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
You know it's you know, I mean, this stuff is
you know, this is part of my I'm passionate about
this stuff because I see too much death and too
much destruction and the seizure, the seizure ing. You know,
once you get to that seizure point, you've got a
very very toxic animal.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yes, yes, that is absolutely true, and it's going to
take time to again, you know, help that animal. Starting
with the foundations of good foods and certainly there are
you know, herbals and other nutrients we can use to
help again raise that seizure threshold and remove the toxins.
But you know sometimes it takes you know, many months,
(29:55):
for years even to really remove them all together. Think
about the role heavy metals and oh my god, you're
logic issues right building the heavy metals coming from those injections,
you know, in their role in these diseases, motal immune disease,
especially diseases of the nervous system, brain and the spinal cord.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
A little bit of mercury is in the in the
damn chem trails as well, you know, And it's it's
really you know, we really have to keep looking and
and you know, when you're looking at herbs and botanicals
and you're looking at even just real food, that rotation
is important with supplementation, with adding different herbs and botanicals,
(30:36):
because the bodies is dynamic, it's changing from moment to moment.
So you start taking something for your heart, Okay, the
body is working on the heart. What's happening to your
liver or your kidney, what's happening to your adrenal gland,
what's happening to your brain? Your joints. I mean it's
you're always chasing something because I don't believe that it's
(30:59):
possible for the bouty to be complete in homeostasis, especially
in today's world, because there's so many assaults.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yeah, I mean I was talking to her client yesterday.
I mean that she was saying how she had treated
her cat's lymphoma with with chemotherapy and it was in remission,
but now we were dealing with kidney. I didn't treat it.
I mean she came to me and so she came
to me and she wanted homeopathic treatment for the kidney
disease that the cat now has. And I said to
(31:30):
her that it's all related. It's not you can't separate
them out like that. It's you know, it's it's the disease.
The imbalance is going to go from one part of
the body to the other, especially when we're using strong
drugs and chemo and strong surgeries. When that suppression occurs,
bill the body gets sicker at a deeper level. So
it's like I was trying to explain, and the cat
(31:51):
was still on predmazone and you know, for the for
the cancer to keep it a remission I'm selling her,
and she was. We were talking about, you know, the
role of protein and kidney disease diets and and it
was interesting that she was. I was trying to explain
to her that it's not that, I know it's a
little bit off topic, but not that it's the quality
of the protein, not the quantity of protein. And she
(32:13):
was right on, you know, prescription kidney diets and all
of that. And you know the same goes true with
the seizures. It's the quality of what the protein is
that we're giving them. You know, that is going to
determine whether an animal continues to spiral downward with more
seizures or have the chance of recovery with again erbles
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and metallicals.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, okay, let's talk a little bit about the proteins.
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Speaker 2 (34:21):
Karin a pet healths cafe to show where your pet
has a voice. This is build a Pet Health Guru.
Along with doctor Michael Dimmon. We're talking about seizures and
of course there's a side note on that. You know,
autoimmune clicks in with that because actually if you're doing
a good job of trying to get rid of seizures.
Are the autoimmune diseases going to start to go away too?
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Absolutely, They're all very similar.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
It's all you know, the the immune you know, the
immune dysregulation where the immune system starts attacking the body's
own issues. All has that central threadbill of external toxicity
and poor diets and you know, powerful drugs. So once
we make progress with you know, herbs and foods, botanicals, homeopathy,
(35:07):
you know we're able to you know, kind of reregulate
the bodies immune systems so that you know, it can heal,
its it can heal and we could have health again.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Well to the other thing. And you know, we were
talking about herbs and botanicals and proteins, and I'll get
into proteins during a second. But with homeopathy, you're battling
the body's energy and you're trying to change that as well,
aren't you.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Well, you're not. What you're doing is is you're trying
to restore energetic health in other words, restore the health
of the life force, or you want to use Chinese
medicine terminology, you want to restore the flow of chi
throughout the body. And so when there's blocked energy or
imbalanced energy, then that's when we see you know, biochemical
(35:52):
changes and disease. So you know, we're really trying to
just get back to that free flow of energy where
the body is in an uninhibited, unobstructed state as best
as possible, where function can be optimal. And so that's
our goal with homeopathy and with any and that's the
way that you know, the foods and the earth work too,
but at a at a at a functional level, and
(36:15):
then the homeopathy is working at an energetic level exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
You know. And now I want to get into the
proteins and and you know, I see so many posts.
You know, my dog is allergic to this and allergic
to that or has sensitivity to this, and they're looking
at the food. Let's say, just take chicken. Chicken is
a big one. Oh, my dog can't have chicken because
it's you know, a bad protein. It's not the chicken,
it's the chemicals that they add to the feed and
(36:42):
to the processing. You know, people don't realize even their
own eggs in a supermarket. First off, those chickens were
raised on GMO corn and soy. You don't think that
has an effect on what nutrients are in that egg,
and then when they collect them, they run it through
a chloric chlorine back and then put radiation on it
(37:03):
to kill all the bacteria. Now that eggshell is also permeable,
which means that things that it's exposed to will go
through the eggshell. You have you ever wondered why supermarket
eggs have got a very very bleached look in the yolk.
Could it be the bleach itself? So when we look
(37:26):
at the proteins, you have to look at making sure
that they're clean, they're not allergic to Allergies are nothing
more than another sign of detox. The body's been overloaded.
Let me give rid of it. It's coming out of
the body. So you know, you and I have to
guess at what they've been doing. And okay, so I've
been feeding XYZ prescription diet for the last two years
(37:49):
and I got all these allergy symptoms, which one of
those two hundred plus chemicals plus what's already on the label,
doctor dim is causing the problem.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, the smartest guy out there, right.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
How about the client that says, well, my dog can
eat raw Every time he eat raw food, he gets diarrhea.
I mean, that's another one.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Fantastic exactly. That's cleansing right right, you know, yes, you
have to put it. But you know the other thing
is we've been programmed that dogs stool is supposed to
be and cats stools are supposed to be hard as rocks,
so you can clean them up easier. That was by
one of those companies that added the stool hardening agents
(38:30):
and then went to the local governments for cleanup laws
so they could use that as a sales pitch back
in the nineteen seventies. Wow, it's horrendous what they've done
to our animals, unfortunately. And each one of these things,
you don't know what you know, each one of these
companies we've got their own excitotoxins, which are the food
(38:51):
additives that makes them addicted to certain foods. Of course cats,
that's especially bad. Okay, how do those combine with the medications,
how do those combined with the with the environmental chemicals
that were you know, both inside and out. You know,
your cleaning materials, you're why did you wash your dog's
bed in you know, did you use a fabric software?
(39:13):
Did you use a uh, you know, a dryer sheet.
All that stuff is in that and those are all
contributing factors. So the protein isn't the big thing because
those are as you mentioned, those are all going in
a lot. Others are going in through the skin. That's
one of the biggest areas of the absorption. Absolutely, you
know we didn't you know ourselves. It's one of the
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biggest areas that our body needs. We need vitamin D.
We make it when we're in sunlight. Let's block it.
Why are we sick?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Right? Right? You know?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
You know I heard and you'll love this. I heard
a so called veterinary nutritionists talking about that the proteins
that they put in these foods, these isolate proteins, you know,
predigested all of that sort of stuff. Uh, the hydrolyze
that dogs can't synthesize the amino acids that they need,
(40:05):
but with these blends, they can synthesize the amino acids
that they need. I went, huh, you just contradicted yourself, right,
And the discussion was about rotating proteins. You know, you
shouldn't rotate, you don't have you don't have to rotate,
and probably shouldn't. But every food brings good and bad.
(40:26):
We don't even know this bad stuff in most cases, right, right, right,
but we know we have to get rid of it
because if it builds up in the body, you have
a reaction which starts. We can start as simple as
vomiting and diarrhea and go as far as those seizures
and even death might correct absolute. Yeah, okay, So I
(40:49):
know there was a couple of other questions and comments
that came up there. If we can get them up
on the board, maybe we can address them. Because we're
we always run out of time on this show. I
don't know why this one.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
This one needs two shows. We didn't get into We
didn't get into some of the supplements, the CBD, the
oh yeah, some of the herbs. Well, here we go, Norma.
It's all about the input. No disease that is caused
by yeah, yeah, well absolutely, that's what we're talking about. Yeah, sure, yeah.
(41:19):
What do you consider quality proteins.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Bill grass, fat grass, finished pasture raised, Absolutely nothing, that's
ultra process Okay, if it's kibble considered, it has no
usable protein. That's my that's my recommendation. Because we have
no clue because even if it says something like chicken
(41:44):
meal or chicken buy product meal or beef. Those are
those batches of rendered products are not exclusive to that protein.
Whatever came in on the dump truck that day, you know,
if it came from a chicken farm, you probably have chicken.
But who knows what else came from the fourteen supermarkets
and the ten restaurants that they picked up. Two they
got mixed in with it. So none of it's pure,
(42:07):
none of it. And like you mentioned, I mean things
like CBD oil. Of course that that just helps, you know,
activate where the inflammation is and then our body can
start to fight it, you know. And of course you
know we have to understand a lot of these chemicals
are now crossing the blood brain barrier. Yes, and of
(42:28):
course seizures are brain going a month, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
It sure is. And then I wanted to get this
line in Bill before the end of the show. Was
you know, like my colleague Stephen Blake said, relative to
all the all the pesticides and the wormings and the
flee in tick medicines, we don't want to burn down
the house, meaning the animal right to kill the ants.
And that's what we're doing when we use these really
strong chemicals and drugs to act in the name of
(42:57):
prevent disease prevention when they're actually causing such chronic ill
health and in our pits.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
So, doctor Dimon, as you know we're at in the show,
how can people reach you and how can we help them?
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Well, they can go to my website which is doctor
dim dot com, d O C T O R D
y M dot com that has all my information and
my and my contact information and more information on my product.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
And of course you can reach me through obviously pet
Health Cafe, my Paleo Pet or Biocomplete Natural Products which
is our sponsors. You know. Again, share this with everybody
you can. I'm available for consultations. I know dodtr DIM
does consultations. And let's make your pets seizure free. Let's
(43:43):
sake get the goal for this year. But that being said,
doctor dim Pleasure is always having you on and we'll
we'll be up again hopefully in another week.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
Good night, everybody, Good night.
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