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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Any health related information on the following show provides general
information only. Content presented on any show by any host
or guest should not be substituted for a doctor's advice.
Always consult your physician before beginning any new diet, exercise,
or treatment program. Then now it's time for Pet Health Cafe,
(00:31):
where your Pet has a Voice. And here's your host,
Bill the Pet Health.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Guru, And welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, the show
where you're has a Voice. This is Bill, Pet Health Guru,
and I've got another great show lined up for you tonight.
We have a special guest. They'll be coming on here
in just a second. As always, i'd like to ask
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We'd like you when we see it like The chat
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will be open and is open, so if you have
any questions, comments, we would love to hear from you. Tonight.
I've got as a special guest, I've got a specialist
in medicine kind of because a lot of people don't
consider this practice really medicine because you're not they're not
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prescribed drugs. And with that being said, I want to
bring on doctor Michelle Morissett, a chiropractor that's doing a
lot of work with our pets. Welcome Michelle. Hi, how
are you what you're doing tonight?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
How about you?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Great? Okay, you can get rid of the jitters now,
no problem anyway. You know, we've known each other for
a while, and you know, one of my passions has been,
even on the human side, because I do a lot
of humans now too, is that if the structure isn't sound,
healing is much more difficult. And you know when you
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when you and I started talking about what we could
do together, it just, you know, it just made so
much sense to me. And so we're working kind of together,
you know, from the store and of course in your practice,
you know, we do nutrition, we do herbals and all
that sort of stuff. Tell me how chiropractical you know
a little bit about your experience and your background and
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how that fits into our program.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Okay, Well, I've been a characracture for thirty five years
and retrained in animal chiropractic in twenty thirteen. And so
why is chiropractic so important in relationship with nutrition is
that if your body is not sound, it's not.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Able to absorb the nutrient the way it should.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
So where chiropractic comes in is that when if you
look at the spine, there are nerves that come out
between each vertebrae, and so when there's a vertebrate that's
stuck in one position, it causes pressure on the nerve.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And when there's pressure on that nerve.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
For example, if it's the nerve that goes to the stomach,
then your stomach will not be able to absorb properly.
It may actually secrete too much acid which will cause heartburn,
or not enough and then you get indigestion. And you know,
so this is relating to nutrition, but it also relates
to every other organ. Whereas if you have a pressure
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on a nerve that goes to the heart, then the
heart block function properly, same with the lungs or anything else.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It's you know, we look at the body and I'm
sure you do too, as a complete system that all
the parts really need to be firing, you know, on
all cylinders in order for healing and help be optimized,
and it doesn't take very much to throw it off,
does it.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
No, it doesn't. They're saying that the weight of one quarter,
you know, like a quarter, is it right, Yes, a
nerve that much weight.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Causes the nerve to decrease by sixty percent of the function.
So you know, if it's only a little pressure on
the nerve, you know it doesn't work the way it should.
And the nerves carry electrical energy, so that's why you know,
for example they do EEG or EKG electrical encephalogram electrical
prodrogram because your nerves carry microcurrents, and so you can
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imagine if microcurrent to the heart is too little or
too much. I mean, if you compare that to a toaster,
for example, if you have too much energy, you get
a short circuit.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
If you don't have enough, the toaster is not going
to work, you know. So it's similar with the organs.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, So you know a lot of people are aware
that there are actually chiropractors for paths and for animals.
You know, you did people as well for a number
of years, if I'm not mistaken, and at least they
can tell you whether they're feeling better or not. The
toughest part with animals is most of us don't speak
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the language that we understand. Is that true.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
And it's difficult sometimes to tell because some animals, especially cats,
are notorious for not showing their pain. So sometimes they
may be in pain and they don't you know, you
won't know. So as chiropractors, we have to feel and
check and take the joints through the range of motion,
and you know, we feel every joint in their body
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in order to find out where they need to be adjusted.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Well, so, actually, chiropractors, and I was thinking about this
so when I was putting this together that unlike other
modalities and medicine, you actually really do a physical exam.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yes, we do. We do a physical exam.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
We do also a postural exam, and then examine the gates,
see how they walk, you know, I mean if they're walking.
Sometimes you know, they are little subtle things that you
might notice when they're walking that maybe the owner hasn't
noticed because you know, to the untrained eye, it's difficult
to see.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's funny because in my recollection, in my vast history
any industry, I only remember one hospital that I worked
with that actually would take like a dog outside on
a leash and have them walk in and you know,
going away sideways everything else, and that would happen to
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be the one that I owned. So we always looked
at that part of it, because if the body is
not in balance, if you know, there's you know, the
cloud arteries, the cloud veins, the cloud, you know, nervous system,
any kind of you know, problem with that. It's you
can't really address a problem unless you really know the
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physiology of the animal. And that's basically what's so important.
And that's what I fight every day in the store.
As you know, you've been in the store, and it's like,
you know, unfortunately, most of the medical community, both veterinary
and on the human side, they really don't know the physiology.
And if you don't know the physiology, if you don't
know how the body works, how can you fix it.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yeah, they they're trained to look at, you know, what
needs to be done in terms of surgery or giving medication.
The majority of veterinarians, so medical doctors are not trained
to look at the structure as the cause of disease,
you know, like they're not trying to look at the
musculature to look at the biomechanics, to look at posture
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or you know.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
So it's difficult unless they specialize in you know, we
have many you.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Know, it's you know when we look at it with
working with animals, like I said number one, they don't
speak a common language with us. So can you describe
a little bit how you are able to actually you know,
like you said, of course by observing and doing a
complete physical. But are the key points that as a
pet owner owners should be looking at or exploring? And
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I know that on people. I tell people when I'm
starting to work with them, you need to set the
structure first, if you can, so that we're therefore the nutrition,
the herbals, the other therapies that we might be doing
have a good starting point because we can do a
lot with food and obviously you know, with nutrition and
things like that. But without that base, what are the
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challenges that you really have most of the time?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Challenges? You mean, what kind of conditions do I see
as character?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Right? Yeah? Exactly?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Also okay, so a lot of times the pet owners
will bring there they are a pet to me because
they're limping or maybe they've noticed.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
That when they're petting them. A certain ways. The you know,
the the animal maybe will move around.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
A little, or field seem to feel discomfort, or they're
having a hard time getting up or down from laying down,
especially in the mornings, or you know, they slowed down.
Maybe they don't want to go in the stairs anymore,
go up and down the stairs, or you know, sometimes
they'll drag a leg, or the posture might be rounded
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in the back. I think, you know, so these are
some of the things. The biggest challenge I would say
as a chiropractor is to get people to understand that
charropractic is not for pain or not just from when
your pet is displaying some kind of discomfort, but also
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to help prevent diseases as well, you know, like it
should be coming before they start hurting.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Absolutely, I mean, I think I'm working on a project
right now that to try to try to of course
I've been doing this for forever, but setting up programs
where you know, we actually prevent most of the injuries,
most of the issues that are going to come up.
I mean, I know that through my own experience that
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a lot of the joint problems and you know, some
of the bad problems, but especially joint problems start out
because of poor nutrition, and so we don't have the
most you know, hip displace is a great example of
that where you know, they've been looking through the genetic
link for almost seventy years now and they still haven't
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found a genetic wink because there is none. It's not
the genetics. Actually back in the seventies they were already
talking and there were research studies that showed it was
caused by dry food kibble. And what happens, of course,
is when those bones are developing and you get that
long bone starting to you know, do its growth very rapidly,
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the joint doesn't match up because that has to and
of course those bones are soft and they start moving
around because there's no muscling because we're giving you a
carbohydrate based diet and snow muscle to hold it in place,
and it just starts tearing it up. But on the
other side of that, we can regenerate that cartilage in
those bones with proper nutrition. But they need your help
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to kind of make sure that everything is going that
the pathways are open for that to occur, don't they.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, Yeah, especially you know, like the further reason or
not align.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
What happens is over time, the body starts to deposit
calcium on the edge of the vertebrae, and then the
calcium gets worse and worse and worse, and then calcium
eventually tries to fuse the bones together.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
And that's what we call arthritis.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Well in animals, because they don't live seventy eighty ninety years,
this process happens a lot quicker. So sometimes you have
animals that are two years old and have arthritis. You know,
so if things don't move properly, that can definitely cause
arthritis as well, you know, so and also poor nutrition.
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Then the body has to try and make calcium somehow,
and it's it's depositing the calcium on the edge of
the vertebrae because it's not being absorbed through the food
or maybe they're not being given the bones when.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
They're eating, or you know, that's exactly right, I mean,
you know, and you know, because the veterinary community is
popped down. You know, the use of recreational bones is
part of nutrition, and you know there's bones that the
smallest and the biggest spots can work on based on
the ages of the food animal. You know, you think
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like they like things like chickens and pork and even
lamb are slaughtered at an early age, so those bones
are pretty soft and they can actually utilize that calcium.
But the other part of the problem is is the
chemtrails that we look at every day when we're driving
into work and the spraying, you know, the weather modification
is dumping a ton of aluminum, and aluminum actually blocks
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the absorption of calcium. And when you throw calcium, where's
the magnesium, where's the manganese, where's the phosphorus, where's the
you know, the magnesium is tied to the iron and
the copper, and of course we need the copper for
those nerves, don't we.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
And then you also need proper water too, which is
another problem, you know, because our water, our tap water
is full of chemicals.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
You know. Yeah, well we're not you know, absorbing properly
with poor water.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, I mean, it's you know, I've been talking with
a lot of clients lately about more and more about water.
And of course, you know, we do an ionized water
product that we sell in the store, and of course
we sell the units as well, but they're very costly.
But all these people are putting in these reverse housmoss machines.
It takes all the minerals out and basically, as a chiropractory,
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you're kind of a mineral doctor, aren't you.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Well, in a way, I mean like we're more of
more of a nervous system specialist, you know, like because
it's what we're doing. Yes, we're adjusting bones, but also
at the same time, it's to affect a nervous system,
which is the most important part of the body. In fact,
the nervous system is the first thing that gets created
when you have a pregnant woman. Used to sells that
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come together, and they divide and divide and divide, and
eventually it looks like a little mall vary and then
when it starts to differentiate, the first organ that's being
formed is actually the nervous system, the brain and the
spinal cord, and from there nerves come out, and then
the organs are being formed after that.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It's kind of like a tree. You have the truck first,
the branches, and then the fruit come at the end
of it. So it's the same in the same.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Way, the body is being formed from the nervous system onward.
And so people think that the first organ to be
formed is the heart, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
The heart has only grown from a nerve.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
So as we are freeing the nerve, we're allowing the
body to heal itself. The body has capacity to regenerate
cells it's being given, you know, like proper nerve flow,
proper nutrition, proper you know, oxygen and water and everything else.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
It can regenerate cell.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
That's why when you know, like when you brush your skin,
millions of dead cells follow off. Well, if that kept
going on and on, you wouldn't have skin anymore. So
the thing happens to every organ in.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
The body exactly. You know. I was uh the show
a couple of weeks ago. We were talking about experts
and uh that sort of thing, and of course the
regenerative power of the body, and I said, every living
organism basically on the face of the earth has that capacity.
And I usually I use the example what happens when
you trim your hedges or your bushes or your trees
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in your backyard, they grow back. Yeah, And that's what
happens within our own body, as long as we give
it the tools that it needs. And unfortunately, you know,
modern medicine thinks that the tool you know, we get
sick because we have a lack of medicine, and there's
you know, it's like no, no, no, no, no. Medicine
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doesn't cure anything. All it does is, you know, I
can imagine we get about two minutes here to the break.
But when you see an animal, it's probably not as
as a preventative as probably after they've been into the
allopathic world. And for you to find stuff that's been
basically chemically buried with painkillers and steroids and anti inflammatories,
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how much does that make your How much harder does
that make your job?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yes, so sometimes they've gone so far that you know
they're going to have to have a medication for a
period of time unfortunately, but you know it shouldn't be
a long term thing.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And you know, you're right. It does make things a
little harder.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Than if they came for prevention before they started.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Having pain and didn't wait till the animal was fifteen
before they you know, like if.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
They started to get checked when they're puppies or their kiddies.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
You know, kittens.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I've had over the last twenty years thirty years, I've
worked with a number of chiropractors on the human side,
and you know a few of them have talked about
when they're when their children were born and within a
day or two starting you know, the chiropractic, especially the
cranial you know, because those plates are moving around and
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that's sort of thing, and if you get them set
right in the beginning, you're going to have much much
greater success rates and not have the types of problems
as we move down the road. And you know, prevention
is one of the biggest things that I think we
have to get out there for the clients because they
don't really think of the different modalities that are available.
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Speaker 2 (21:00):
Pet health Care to show where your pet's voice. This
is Bill pet Health's Gurule and along with me is
my special guest, doctor Michelle, and it's we've again. I
want to remind people to go ahead and share this subscribe,
like add your comments and your questions in the chat.
And we've had a couple of inquiries already there. I
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don't know if you've seen them yet and come up
on the screen, but rebel if you can bring them
back up so that doctor Michelle might be able to
address some of that. Okay, there's one from Michelle, another
Michelle one else.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, so we'll be able to help an animal.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
What's fondolite is well, spondolitis is only the positive calcium
on the vertebrae, like what we were talking about earlier.
When the body doesn't move the way should, the body
starts to deposit calcium on the edge of the vertebrae.
So depending on how you know how it advanced it is,
we certainly could slow it down or maybe you stop it,
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you know, if it's not too advanced, then reverse.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So that's that's one of the things that it And
of course we have different herbs too that help move
calcium around, which would take it off you know, you know,
the wrong areas. You know, I related to you. I
had a spur on my neck that caused me to
have a pinch nerve in my arm, and you know,
I've been taking that particular herbs it's actually from Ecuador
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that they call stone breaker. They use it for kidney
stones and bladderstone, liverstone because it just helps.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
My first question when that happened was why did my
why did my body put that calcium in the wrong place.
You know, it's not that you know, oh my god,
I feel bad for myself. It's like, no, my body malfunctions. Somehow,
somewhere somewhere along the line, it created this issue, and
we can create a lot of different things, you know.
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Since that happened, of course, I've been doing chiropractic on
my you know, uh, for my as well, and you
know it's about bailing. We had a couple other questions
that came up there. That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, it's a very good one. And it's not always easy.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Some of them are like very active, very young, and
so I work with them. You know, sometimes I have
to give them a break and you know, uh, but
the majority of the time, the animals, like the adjustment
are quite pleasant. You know, it's very gentle, it's a
quick thrust, it's shallow, it's rapid, and then I recheck.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
To make sure that it's moving better.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
So most you know, sometimes they twine a little because
you know, we touch areas that are already hurting.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
But the majority of the time they they're pretty good.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, it comes out with them a.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Break, come back to it, get the owner to to
hold the animal still, or we provide some treats so
that they can you know.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Distructed basically write them. And that's good. That's a good thing. Okay, Okay,
here's another question. You know what age you feel this
would be a beneficial startup. I think we actually were
talking about that in the last segment. That probably earlier
the better.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah, all aged, because you don't want to grow up
with a subluxation.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
It's the same thing with babies.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
You know, and I when I had my children, I
made sure they got adjusted when they were new born,
you know, And so the same thing would happen with
my animals.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
I check them on a regular basis because I just
don't want them to have something dormant there that's going to.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
End up being a problem later on. So at birth
is the first the answer to that.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay, you know something that happened. Were there any other
questions that we had, I guess not so far. But
one of the things that on the prevention side, I
know that I get calls all the time. You know, Bill,
my dog got up having problems with his back legs.
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He's not getting up as quickly. He was fine yesterday.
But one of the things that I know about when
we lose control of the back legs, that quite often
that's tied to toxicity of poisoning because the body is
keeping the poison away from the heart, pushing it to
the extremities, and you know, we have to do basically
flush him out. Most of the time they're fine within
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three or four days. But a lot of calls that
I get too. My dog was out playing, running around
and you know, move the wrong way and now he's limphing.
What would be you know, you know most people go
to the allopathic doctor. What would they give pain killers? Steroids,
anti inflammatories? What would be more the approach that they
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should be taking, and you know, what would be the
benefits of it? With what you do?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, So that's what I would do.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
A lot of times the leg pain is caused by
the back, but they can also be in the leg itself.
So what I would do. What I do as a
chiropractor is what's called motion palation. So I actually take
all the joints through their range of motion in every direction,
and when I find one that's not moving the way
it should, or not moving as much as the one
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above or the one below, or from side to side,
that's when I'll give a quick thrust and restore the
motion and that joint so that the body can you know,
free the nerves and free allow the psnovial fluid which
surrounds the joints to flow properly so that the body
can heal itself. You know, if they have pain, I
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could probably go for something like CBD oil or something
more natural.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You know, I know, you know, I know with people,
you know, and I joke around about this all the time.
You know, when you're in pain, you go on to
the doctor. You're giving you all kind of painkillers and
steroids and stuff like that. You finally get set up
and you go to a chiropractor and of course, you know,
lay down on the bench, you know, and it's my
lower it's my lower back top. You know, it's just
(27:04):
killing me. My legs are killing me. And of course
the chiropractor starts working up and starts playing with the neck,
and you're like, no, no, it's not my neck, it's
my my hips, my joints, the pelvis, or my lower back.
And then you know, they do a small adjustment, tell
you to stand up, and it's like, what they don't
(27:25):
understand that so many of those those nerves are being
coming out of the out of the neck area. And
it's the same with dogs and cans, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, Because what happens is that the brain sends signal
down from you know, all the way down talk the
bottom at the bottom to the tail right, so in
an animal, right, so if it could be blocked anywhere
along that those lines, and so if it's blocked here,
it could cost.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Pain anywhere down below you know, so the neck is
the most if you're going to just only one, I mean,
there are chiropractors only a just a neck, right, But
I personally believe that you can jure any any joint,
you know. I mean it's all on your hand.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
You can insure your hand. So every joint and in
the body is important as well.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Right. Well, I mean too when you're looking at blood flow,
it's got to go into that area and come out
of that area. So you know, we have to maintain
that that open flow throughout that body for the healing
to occur. And that's when her healing does occur, is
when you get good nutrients coming through the blood system
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and helping to regenerate that body, that joint and the
muscular around that. I mean, that's the that's the second
part of it. Isn't it that you have to build
muscle to hold these bones together in a proper session.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Oh, that's for sure, because you know, like if you
if you have a subluxation for a certain amount of time,
muscles will get weaate in certain areas because your body
ends up compensating by using other areas and animals.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
What you're seeing often is that the back end will.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Be weaker and their front end they end up bearing
more weight in the front, so their back legs, you know,
also will need to be strengthen over time. And they're abdominals,
you know, so that they can hold the adjustment in
place as well.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, well, I think there's a common problem too that
people don't understand that with the body adjusting itself, basically,
we're sometimes looking at the wrong area for a solution.
And you know, I know in allopathic medicine that's done
quite a bit. We're not looking at we're not looking
at digestion, we're not looking at nutrition properly, we're not
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looking at balance. And of course, you know, the other
challenge I know that you have to be it's got
to be painsaking sometimes is the genetic wrecks that we've
made of so many breeds of dogs. You know, the
shepherds with their sloping backs, and then you know the
bullies with their you know, broad chests. And of course
(30:10):
when you look at even just for the nutrition, there's
always munched in based dogs. You know, they can never
ever catch their own dinner. I mean it's just not possible.
First off, most of them can't run fast enough. And
the other part is that if they got there, there's
nothing that they don't have that structure to actually grab
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on to prey, So they would be basically scavengers at
that point in time, is all it could really be.
In the wild.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Yeah, they do a lot of things in animals that
I don't like, like, for example, cutting tails. There's twenty
bones in the tail, and you know, there are breeds
of dogs cut the tails, you know, they cut the ears.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
You know, and that should be illegal.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
But you know, well they've pretty much done away with
at least you know, declawing in most states, which was
a big eie. It's you know, oh I can't you know,
I don't want my couch to be all scratched up,
So let's just mutilate the animal and.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
What they do.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
But also breeding these breeds though too, where so they
you know, they can't even breathe some of them. You know,
you can't walk around the block with some of these
big even some of the bigger breeds of dogs. And
they need the exercise, they need that movement. And of course,
you know, a big part of the filtration on the
body and that sort of thing is the lymphatic system
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because of the livers are all compromised because of the chemicals.
And if if the filtration is being pushed out to
lymphaticism and they can't move because they're hurt, that's kind
that that basically creates even a bigger problem, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, because your muscles also help to you know, the
lymphatics to drain, help the blood flow to you know,
you push the the on.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
The arteries and the veins to well, you know, all
the blood for properly. So if your muscles are weak,
then you can end up with a lot of other
health issues as well.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, and of course you look at it, I mean
even the whole endocrine system and working as a system.
We do spae in neuters, which grew up the hormone
balance and you know, the enzyme balance and that sort
of thing that's really necessary. So when you or I
actually sometimes get to an animal, unfortunately we don't normally
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are on the forefront of you know, being there when
they're born and whether they're being raised until they're being
sold and then they have problems. It just makes our
job much more difficult. We're going to be right back
after this quick message.
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Speaker 2 (34:26):
And welcome back to the health Cafe to show where
your pet has a voice. This is build a ped
health Guru along with doctor Michelle, my special guest, and
we're talking about chiropractic and basically the structure of the
animals and what we have to deal with. Again, the
chat room is open. Put in your questions. I would
also encourage you to share this like this and subscribe
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because doctor Michelle, you know, one of our biggest challenges
is just people knowing what they can do, because we've
been so blinded by this pathic model where everything's going
to be you know, the typical you know, animal hospital,
the veterinarians, and even on the people's side, you know,
(35:12):
the mds, that sort of thing. But I was doing
some research last week or the week before, and it
came up that there's now ninety different specialties in the
medical community and humans. And you know, you have a
doctor that Okay, I got an ear problem. Well was
it an inner ear problem or an outer ear problem?
You did you lose your ear or not? You have
(35:33):
four different practices right there, you know, and they're not
looking at the whole body in order for you to
do your job, don't you have to look at the
whole body.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I do.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Actually, it's every single joint is attached to each other.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
So you know.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
And then they're saying in the latest research that when
one vertebrae is not moving the way it should, it
affects four levels above and you know, or vertebrate above
and vertebrate below. So if you have like basically three
sublaxations in your spine, it's almost the whole spine, which
(36:11):
is your whole nervous system.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
You know. So if your.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Nervous system is shut down or diminished, you know, then
you have things that are not getting where the it
should beginning when they should be getting there. Like for example,
if you're eating and the food gets into your stomach,
then your body has to secrete an acid in order
to digest this food. If you don't have proper nerve
(36:35):
supply and the food gets in the stomach and the
acid doesn't get there, then you get an indigestion, or
if it's acid gets there too early, then you get
a heart barn. Then the food that's partially digestive goes
into the intestine.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Then you're intestine. You end up with gas or diarrhea
or constipation or you know.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
So that's only for one area, and so you could
look at the heart and lungs and the.
Speaker 7 (37:05):
Reproductive system and it's you know, it's interesting because you know,
with me being on the nutrition side and on the
food side, one of the major complaints that we have,
of course, number one, when we change a diet, the
body's got to go through a cleanse.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
It's got to get rid of the bad stuff that's
in there, all the toxins and the drugs and everything
else that's screwing up the gut itself. The second complaint,
of course, is then you know, I'm dealing with loose stool, diarrhea,
things of this nature. Well, first off, the stool is
supposed to always be soft, and most clients don't understand that.
It was actually one of the big four food companies
(37:42):
that started adding stool hardening agents so that animals have
to strain, but they said it was easier to clean up.
I know, it's nuts what they do. But anyway, are
there specific adjustments therapies that you look at for you know,
battling things like the like you know, transitional bad stomach
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and we know that. Of course, the biome is a big,
big portion of that because it's been killed off. But
to open up the right channels basically that will aid
in digestion.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yes, And also I wanted to mention it just because
an animal has diarrhea or is vomiting doesn't necessarily mean
they're sick.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Right, because sometimes yeah, sometimes their body is just saying, oh,
I don't like this, so it's going to get rid
of it. So that absolutely means that the body is healthy.
So sometimes we got to look at health outside.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
The box a little bit, you know, Yes we do.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yeah, But there.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Are times though that they're not getting the right amount
of stomach acid or at the right time, that there's
other factors that are limiting that the digestive enzymes that
they need, and that's being controlled by somewhat by blood
flow and probably by nerves as well, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
The nerves or yes, the nerves are the ones that control.
The nerves are the one that causes the secretion of
chemicals in the body. So your body needs chemicals to
do everything. It needs a chemical to wake up in
the morning, you need a chemical to false leaves at night,
you need a chemical for digestions. You need a chemical
for you know, for everything that your body does, and
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those chemicals are controlled by the nervous system. You know,
like your direct gland is controlled by your nervous system.
Your you know, sexual works, you're controlled in the nervous system.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
You know. A question that always pops up in my mind,
but I know the actual answer because it's all about
money most of the time. But why is it that
the average animal hospital doesn't you utilize any any form
of chiropractic. I mean, what's the negat through that?
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Why are they not using chiropractics enough?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I think I think a lot of them don't know
anything about chiropractic, so they don't you know, they don't
know what we do, and they're afraid to I've heard
a veterinarian who actually works with me say that they're
afraid to refer sometimes because the neurologists will.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Get mad at them or you know.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
So there's a whole there's a lot of education that
needs to be done with chiropractic, and you know, unfortunately,
it's very hard to get to the veterinarians so that
we can educate them because they're very busy and they
don't have time to look at that.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
You know so well, you know that you know, I
went through the same thing when I was putting together
some of my botanical blends and things of that nature.
That you know, people that are using botanicals for heartworm prevention,
for instance, and you know, they go to the you know,
their practitioner and they say, you know, when they offer
(41:05):
the chemical solution of it, it's like, no, I'm doing
something natural. Well, I don't know anything about that. And
then they go back six months later, I don't know
anything about that. And then the next time they go
in they actually take in paperwork, you know, research studies
and you know, articles off the off the net or
out of medical books or whatever, and drop them off
(41:26):
for the veterinarian. And they go back in again and
it's like they get the same answer, I don't know
anything about this. Well, if you're a client of a doctor,
don't you think it's their obligation to know what these
things are at least to take the fifteen the thirty
seconds to do a quick Google search. And you know
they're taking your money, shouldn't And you know, and I
(41:47):
hear this a lot, Well, I love my veterinarian. I
love my doctor. You know, my heart surgeon was the
best in the world because he saved my life. Well,
you didn't know that you were going to die because
there is no checkout date on you know, on your ticket.
You could have probably you know, in many cases a
lot of surgeries and a lot of procedures, the body
will will cure itself. We see that with cancers, especially
(42:08):
every single day. We see that with diabetes every day.
You know, they're not diseases. There are blips on a timeline.
Sometimes it's just it's an occurrence, it's an episode and
the body, as you mentioned, regenerate itself. We don't know
about the last three minutes in the show. So tell
(42:30):
people where you can where they can find you. I
know we're setting up a meet and greet at my
palaeo pet for tomorrow if anybody wants to come and
see you. And how else can they reach you?
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
So they can reach me by phone number. That's the
easiest way.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Five six, one seven eight eight one four four eight
call or text. I also have an email of Dr
Michelle M at gmail dot com.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
So d R M.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
I C.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
A M at gmail dot com and I work in
Vero Beach.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
I also work in Whyton Beach and then now I'm
starting to work a little bit and pumping the beach.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yes, and we're glad to have you, by the way,
but yeah, it's uh, it's important that you start early
with how often how you know what we mentioned when
they should start, how often you really should have Should
the average pet need at least a quickie exam?
Speaker 4 (43:32):
At least a quick exam. I would say every three months.
They shouldn't be checked if they don't have any issues.
If they have issues, usually I'll see them once a
week until they get you know, to where we can
spread out the visits. So depending on the kitten, condition,
the age, and you know everything else, then that's when
(43:52):
I can determine. The older the pet, the more probably
they need because you know, we can keep them having
more quality of life for a longer period of time.
And usually that means they live longer because you know,
we put our we put them down and they don't
have any more quality of life.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Right now, Okay, you know we're here at the end
of the show. I want to first off, thank you
for coming on, thank you for being a friend and
a client, and you know, working with us as far
as what we're trying to do with the animals, obviously,
our goal is to try to do things as most
as naturally as we can. No drugs, no chemicals, that
sort of thing is a great fit. Again, I want
(44:33):
to thank you for coming on and sharing it and
giving us a lot of insight as to it's not
just cracking bones, it's basically making the animal healthy again.
So with that being said, thank you doctor Michelle. It
is a pleasure having you. I'll see you tomorrow obviously
at my Palaeo pat for your meet and greet, And
with that, thank you for watching out there. I hope
(44:54):
this was good for you, and good night.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Thank you forv.
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
Guru, And welcome to the Pet Health Cafe, the show
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We have a special guest. They'll be coming on here
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I've got as a special guest, I've got a specialist
in medicine kind of because a lot of people don't
consider this practice really medicine because you're not they're not
(01:42):
prescribed drugs. And with that being said, I want to
bring on doctor Michelle Morissett, a chiropractor that's doing a
lot of work with our pets. Welcome Michelle. Hi, how
are you what you're doing tonight?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
How about you?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Great? Okay, you can get rid of the jitters now,
no problem anyway. You know, we've known each other for
a while, and you know, one of my passions has been,
even on the human side, because I do a lot
of humans now too, is that if the structure isn't sound,
healing is much more difficult. And you know when you
(02:22):
when you and I started talking about what we could
do together, it just, you know, it just made so
much sense to me. And so we're working kind of together,
you know, from the store and of course in your practice,
you know, we do nutrition, we do herbals and all
that sort of stuff. Tell me how chiropractical you know
a little bit about your experience and your background and
(02:45):
how that fits into our program.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Okay, Well, I've been a characracture for thirty five years
and retrained in animal chiropractic in twenty thirteen. And so
why is chiropractic so important in relationship with nutrition is
that if your body is not sound, it's not.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Able to absorb the nutrient the way it should.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
So where chiropractic comes in is that when if you
look at the spine, there are nerves that come out
between each vertebrae, and so when there's a vertebrate that's
stuck in one position, it causes pressure on the nerve.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And when there's pressure on that nerve.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
For example, if it's the nerve that goes to the stomach,
then your stomach will not be able to absorb properly.
It may actually secrete too much acid which will cause heartburn,
or not enough and then you get indigestion. And you know,
so this is relating to nutrition, but it also relates
to every other organ. Whereas if you have a pressure
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on a nerve that goes to the heart, then the
heart block function properly, same with the lungs or anything else.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It's you know, we look at the body and I'm
sure you do too, as a complete system that all
the parts really need to be firing, you know, on
all cylinders in order for healing and help be optimized,
and it doesn't take very much to throw it off,
does it.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
No, it doesn't. They're saying that the weight of one quarter,
you know, like a quarter, is it right, Yes, a
nerve that much weight.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Causes the nerve to decrease by sixty percent of the function.
So you know, if it's only a little pressure on
the nerve, you know it doesn't work the way it should.
And the nerves carry electrical energy, so that's why you know,
for example they do EEG or EKG electrical encephalogram electrical
prodrogram because your nerves carry microcurrents, and so you can
(04:47):
imagine if microcurrent to the heart is too little or
too much. I mean, if you compare that to a toaster,
for example, if you have too much energy, you get
a short circuit.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
If you don't have enough, the toaster is not going
to work, you know. So it's similar with the organs.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, So you know a lot of people are aware
that there are actually chiropractors for paths and for animals.
You know, you did people as well for a number
of years, if I'm not mistaken, and at least they
can tell you whether they're feeling better or not. The
toughest part with animals is most of us don't speak
(05:26):
the language that we understand. Is that true.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
And it's difficult sometimes to tell because some animals, especially cats,
are notorious for not showing their pain. So sometimes they
may be in pain and they don't you know, you
won't know. So as chiropractors, we have to feel and
check and take the joints through the range of motion,
and you know, we feel every joint in their body
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in order to find out where they need to be adjusted.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Well, so, actually, chiropractors, and I was thinking about this
so when I was putting this together that unlike other
modalities and medicine, you actually really do a physical exam.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yes, we do. We do a physical exam.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
We do also a postural exam, and then examine the gates,
see how they walk, you know, I mean if they're walking.
Sometimes you know, they are little subtle things that you
might notice when they're walking that maybe the owner hasn't
noticed because you know, to the untrained eye, it's difficult
to see.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It's funny because in my recollection, in my vast history
any industry, I only remember one hospital that I worked
with that actually would take like a dog outside on
a leash and have them walk in and you know,
going away sideways everything else, and that would happen to
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be the one that I owned. So we always looked
at that part of it, because if the body is
not in balance, if you know, there's you know, the
cloud arteries, the cloud veins, the cloud, you know, nervous system,
any kind of you know, problem with that. It's you
can't really address a problem unless you really know the
(07:15):
physiology of the animal. And that's basically what's so important.
And that's what I fight every day in the store.
As you know, you've been in the store, and it's like,
you know, unfortunately, most of the medical community, both veterinary
and on the human side, they really don't know the physiology.
And if you don't know the physiology, if you don't
know how the body works, how can you fix it.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yeah, they they're trained to look at, you know, what
needs to be done in terms of surgery or giving medication.
The majority of veterinarians, so medical doctors are not trained
to look at the structure as the cause of disease,
you know, like they're not trying to look at the
musculature to look at the biomechanics, to look at posture
(08:01):
or you know.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
So it's difficult unless they specialize in you know, we
have many you.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Know, it's you know when we look at it with
working with animals, like I said number one, they don't
speak a common language with us. So can you describe
a little bit how you are able to actually you know,
like you said, of course by observing and doing a
complete physical. But are the key points that as a
pet owner owners should be looking at or exploring? And
(08:35):
I know that on people. I tell people when I'm
starting to work with them, you need to set the
structure first, if you can, so that we're therefore the nutrition,
the herbals, the other therapies that we might be doing
have a good starting point because we can do a
lot with food and obviously you know, with nutrition and
things like that. But without that base, what are the
(08:57):
challenges that you really have most of the time?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Challenges? You mean, what kind of conditions do I see
as character?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Right? Yeah? Exactly?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Also okay, so a lot of times the pet owners
will bring there they are a pet to me because
they're limping or maybe they've noticed.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
That when they're petting them. A certain ways. The you know,
the the animal maybe will move around.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
A little, or field seem to feel discomfort, or they're
having a hard time getting up or down from laying down,
especially in the mornings, or you know, they slowed down.
Maybe they don't want to go in the stairs anymore,
go up and down the stairs, or you know, sometimes
they'll drag a leg, or the posture might be rounded
(09:47):
in the back. I think, you know, so these are
some of the things. The biggest challenge I would say
as a chiropractor is to get people to understand that
charropractic is not for pain or not just from when
your pet is displaying some kind of discomfort, but also
(10:07):
to help prevent diseases as well, you know, like it
should be coming before they start hurting.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Absolutely, I mean, I think I'm working on a project
right now that to try to try to of course
I've been doing this for forever, but setting up programs
where you know, we actually prevent most of the injuries,
most of the issues that are going to come up.
I mean, I know that through my own experience that
(10:39):
a lot of the joint problems and you know, some
of the bad problems, but especially joint problems start out
because of poor nutrition, and so we don't have the
most you know, hip displace is a great example of
that where you know, they've been looking through the genetic
link for almost seventy years now and they still haven't
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found a genetic wink because there is none. It's not
the genetics. Actually back in the seventies they were already
talking and there were research studies that showed it was
caused by dry food kibble. And what happens, of course,
is when those bones are developing and you get that
long bone starting to you know, do its growth very rapidly,
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the joint doesn't match up because that has to and
of course those bones are soft and they start moving
around because there's no muscling because we're giving you a
carbohydrate based diet and snow muscle to hold it in place,
and it just starts tearing it up. But on the
other side of that, we can regenerate that cartilage in
those bones with proper nutrition. But they need your help
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to kind of make sure that everything is going that
the pathways are open for that to occur, don't they.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, Yeah, especially you know, like the further reason or
not align.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
What happens is over time, the body starts to deposit
calcium on the edge of the vertebrae, and then the
calcium gets worse and worse and worse, and then calcium
eventually tries to fuse the bones together.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
And that's what we call arthritis.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Well in animals, because they don't live seventy eighty ninety years,
this process happens a lot quicker. So sometimes you have
animals that are two years old and have arthritis. You know,
so if things don't move properly, that can definitely cause
arthritis as well, you know, so and also poor nutrition.
(12:33):
Then the body has to try and make calcium somehow,
and it's it's depositing the calcium on the edge of
the vertebrae because it's not being absorbed through the food
or maybe they're not being given the bones when.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
They're eating, or you know, that's exactly right, I mean,
you know, and you know, because the veterinary community is
popped down. You know, the use of recreational bones is
part of nutrition, and you know there's bones that the
smallest and the biggest spots can work on based on
the ages of the food animal. You know, you think
(13:05):
like they like things like chickens and pork and even
lamb are slaughtered at an early age, so those bones
are pretty soft and they can actually utilize that calcium.
But the other part of the problem is is the
chemtrails that we look at every day when we're driving
into work and the spraying, you know, the weather modification
is dumping a ton of aluminum, and aluminum actually blocks
(13:29):
the absorption of calcium. And when you throw calcium, where's
the magnesium, where's the manganese, where's the phosphorus, where's the
you know, the magnesium is tied to the iron and
the copper, and of course we need the copper for
those nerves, don't we.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
And then you also need proper water too, which is
another problem, you know, because our water, our tap water
is full of chemicals.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
You know. Yeah, well we're not you know, absorbing properly
with poor water.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, I mean, it's you know, I've been talking with
a lot of clients lately about more and more about water.
And of course, you know, we do an ionized water
product that we sell in the store, and of course
we sell the units as well, but they're very costly.
But all these people are putting in these reverse housmoss machines.
It takes all the minerals out and basically, as a chiropractory,
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you're kind of a mineral doctor, aren't you.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Well, in a way, I mean like we're more of
more of a nervous system specialist, you know, like because
it's what we're doing. Yes, we're adjusting bones, but also
at the same time, it's to affect a nervous system,
which is the most important part of the body. In fact,
the nervous system is the first thing that gets created
when you have a pregnant woman. Used to sells that
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come together, and they divide and divide and divide, and
eventually it looks like a little mall vary and then
when it starts to differentiate, the first organ that's being
formed is actually the nervous system, the brain and the
spinal cord, and from there nerves come out, and then
the organs are being formed after that.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
It's kind of like a tree. You have the truck first,
the branches, and then the fruit come at the end
of it. So it's the same in the same.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Way, the body is being formed from the nervous system onward.
And so people think that the first organ to be
formed is the heart, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
The heart has only grown from a nerve.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
So as we are freeing the nerve, we're allowing the
body to heal itself. The body has capacity to regenerate
cells it's being given, you know, like proper nerve flow,
proper nutrition, proper you know, oxygen and water and everything else.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
It can regenerate cell.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
That's why when you know, like when you brush your skin,
millions of dead cells follow off. Well, if that kept
going on and on, you wouldn't have skin anymore. So
the thing happens to every organ in.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
The body exactly. You know. I was uh the show
a couple of weeks ago. We were talking about experts
and uh that sort of thing, and of course the
regenerative power of the body, and I said, every living
organism basically on the face of the earth has that capacity.
And I usually I use the example what happens when
you trim your hedges or your bushes or your trees
(16:25):
in your backyard, they grow back. Yeah, And that's what
happens within our own body, as long as we give
it the tools that it needs. And unfortunately, you know,
modern medicine thinks that the tool you know, we get
sick because we have a lack of medicine, and there's
you know, it's like no, no, no, no, no. Medicine
(16:47):
doesn't cure anything. All it does is, you know, I
can imagine we get about two minutes here to the break.
But when you see an animal, it's probably not as
as a preventative as probably after they've been into the
allopathic world. And for you to find stuff that's been
basically chemically buried with painkillers and steroids and anti inflammatories,
(17:14):
how much does that make your How much harder does
that make your job?
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yes, so sometimes they've gone so far that you know
they're going to have to have a medication for a
period of time unfortunately, but you know it shouldn't be
a long term thing.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And you know, you're right. It does make things a
little harder.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Than if they came for prevention before they started.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Having pain and didn't wait till the animal was fifteen
before they you know, like if.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
They started to get checked when they're puppies or their kiddies.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
You know, kittens.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I've had over the last twenty years thirty years, I've
worked with a number of chiropractors on the human side,
and you know a few of them have talked about
when they're when their children were born and within a
day or two starting you know, the chiropractic, especially the
cranial you know, because those plates are moving around and
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that's sort of thing, and if you get them set
right in the beginning, you're going to have much much
greater success rates and not have the types of problems
as we move down the road. And you know, prevention
is one of the biggest things that I think we
have to get out there for the clients because they
don't really think of the different modalities that are available.
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Speaker 2 (21:00):
Pet health Care to show where your pet's voice. This
is Bill pet Health's Gurule and along with me is
my special guest, doctor Michelle, and it's we've again. I
want to remind people to go ahead and share this subscribe,
like add your comments and your questions in the chat.
And we've had a couple of inquiries already there. I
(21:22):
don't know if you've seen them yet and come up
on the screen, but rebel if you can bring them
back up so that doctor Michelle might be able to
address some of that. Okay, there's one from Michelle, another
Michelle one else.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, so we'll be able to help an animal.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
What's fondolite is well, spondolitis is only the positive calcium
on the vertebrae, like what we were talking about earlier.
When the body doesn't move the way should, the body
starts to deposit calcium on the edge of the vertebrae.
So depending on how you know how it advanced it is,
we certainly could slow it down or maybe you stop it,
(22:01):
you know, if it's not too advanced, then reverse.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So that's that's one of the things that it And
of course we have different herbs too that help move
calcium around, which would take it off you know, you know,
the wrong areas. You know, I related to you. I
had a spur on my neck that caused me to
have a pinch nerve in my arm, and you know,
I've been taking that particular herbs it's actually from Ecuador
(22:28):
that they call stone breaker. They use it for kidney
stones and bladderstone, liverstone because it just helps.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
My first question when that happened was why did my
why did my body put that calcium in the wrong place.
You know, it's not that you know, oh my god,
I feel bad for myself. It's like, no, my body malfunctions. Somehow,
somewhere somewhere along the line, it created this issue, and
we can create a lot of different things, you know.
(22:55):
Since that happened, of course, I've been doing chiropractic on
my you know, uh, for my as well, and you
know it's about bailing. We had a couple other questions
that came up there. That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, it's a very good one. And it's not always easy.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Some of them are like very active, very young, and
so I work with them. You know, sometimes I have
to give them a break and you know, uh, but
the majority of the time, the animals, like the adjustment
are quite pleasant. You know, it's very gentle, it's a
quick thrust, it's shallow, it's rapid, and then I recheck.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
To make sure that it's moving better.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
So most you know, sometimes they twine a little because
you know, we touch areas that are already hurting.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
But the majority of the time they they're pretty good.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, it comes out with them a.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Break, come back to it, get the owner to to
hold the animal still, or we provide some treats so
that they can you know.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Distructed basically write them. And that's good. That's a good thing. Okay, Okay,
here's another question. You know what age you feel this
would be a beneficial startup. I think we actually were
talking about that in the last segment. That probably earlier
the better.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah, all aged, because you don't want to grow up
with a subluxation.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
It's the same thing with babies.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
You know, and I when I had my children, I
made sure they got adjusted when they were new born,
you know, And so the same thing would happen with
my animals.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
I check them on a regular basis because I just
don't want them to have something dormant there that's going to.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
End up being a problem later on. So at birth
is the first the answer to that.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay, you know something that happened. Were there any other
questions that we had, I guess not so far. But
one of the things that on the prevention side, I
know that I get calls all the time. You know, Bill,
my dog got up having problems with his back legs.
(25:03):
He's not getting up as quickly. He was fine yesterday.
But one of the things that I know about when
we lose control of the back legs, that quite often
that's tied to toxicity of poisoning because the body is
keeping the poison away from the heart, pushing it to
the extremities, and you know, we have to do basically
flush him out. Most of the time they're fine within
(25:23):
three or four days. But a lot of calls that
I get too. My dog was out playing, running around
and you know, move the wrong way and now he's limphing.
What would be you know, you know most people go
to the allopathic doctor. What would they give pain killers? Steroids,
anti inflammatories? What would be more the approach that they
(25:46):
should be taking, and you know, what would be the
benefits of it? With what you do?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, So that's what I would do.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
A lot of times the leg pain is caused by
the back, but they can also be in the leg itself.
So what I would do. What I do as a
chiropractor is what's called motion palation. So I actually take
all the joints through their range of motion in every direction,
and when I find one that's not moving the way
it should, or not moving as much as the one
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above or the one below, or from side to side,
that's when I'll give a quick thrust and restore the
motion and that joint so that the body can you know,
free the nerves and free allow the psnovial fluid which
surrounds the joints to flow properly so that the body
can heal itself. You know, if they have pain, I
(26:38):
could probably go for something like CBD oil or something
more natural.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
You know, I know, you know, I know with people,
you know, and I joke around about this all the time.
You know, when you're in pain, you go on to
the doctor. You're giving you all kind of painkillers and
steroids and stuff like that. You finally get set up
and you go to a chiropractor and of course, you know,
lay down on the bench, you know, and it's my
lower it's my lower back top. You know, it's just
(27:04):
killing me. My legs are killing me. And of course
the chiropractor starts working up and starts playing with the neck,
and you're like, no, no, it's not my neck, it's
my my hips, my joints, the pelvis, or my lower back.
And then you know, they do a small adjustment, tell
you to stand up, and it's like, what they don't
(27:25):
understand that so many of those those nerves are being
coming out of the out of the neck area. And
it's the same with dogs and cans, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, Because what happens is that the brain sends signal
down from you know, all the way down talk the
bottom at the bottom to the tail right, so in
an animal, right, so if it could be blocked anywhere
along that those lines, and so if it's blocked here,
it could cost.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Pain anywhere down below you know, so the neck is
the most if you're going to just only one, I mean,
there are chiropractors only a just a neck, right, But
I personally believe that you can jure any any joint,
you know. I mean it's all on your hand.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
You can insure your hand. So every joint and in
the body is important as well.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Right. Well, I mean too when you're looking at blood flow,
it's got to go into that area and come out
of that area. So you know, we have to maintain
that that open flow throughout that body for the healing
to occur. And that's when her healing does occur, is
when you get good nutrients coming through the blood system
(28:39):
and helping to regenerate that body, that joint and the
muscular around that. I mean, that's the that's the second
part of it. Isn't it that you have to build
muscle to hold these bones together in a proper session.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Oh, that's for sure, because you know, like if you
if you have a subluxation for a certain amount of time,
muscles will get weaate in certain areas because your body
ends up compensating by using other areas and animals.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
What you're seeing often is that the back end will.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Be weaker and their front end they end up bearing
more weight in the front, so their back legs, you know,
also will need to be strengthen over time. And they're abdominals,
you know, so that they can hold the adjustment in
place as well.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, well, I think there's a common problem too that
people don't understand that with the body adjusting itself, basically,
we're sometimes looking at the wrong area for a solution.
And you know, I know in allopathic medicine that's done
quite a bit. We're not looking at we're not looking
at digestion, we're not looking at nutrition properly, we're not
(29:49):
looking at balance. And of course, you know, the other
challenge I know that you have to be it's got
to be painsaking sometimes is the genetic wrecks that we've
made of so many breeds of dogs. You know, the
shepherds with their sloping backs, and then you know the
bullies with their you know, broad chests. And of course
(30:10):
when you look at even just for the nutrition, there's
always munched in based dogs. You know, they can never
ever catch their own dinner. I mean it's just not possible.
First off, most of them can't run fast enough. And
the other part is that if they got there, there's
nothing that they don't have that structure to actually grab
(30:30):
on to prey, So they would be basically scavengers at
that point in time, is all it could really be.
In the wild.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Yeah, they do a lot of things in animals that
I don't like, like, for example, cutting tails. There's twenty
bones in the tail, and you know, there are breeds
of dogs cut the tails, you know, they cut the ears.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
You know, and that should be illegal.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
But you know, well they've pretty much done away with
at least you know, declawing in most states, which was
a big eie. It's you know, oh I can't you know,
I don't want my couch to be all scratched up,
So let's just mutilate the animal and.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
What they do.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
But also breeding these breeds though too, where so they
you know, they can't even breathe some of them. You know,
you can't walk around the block with some of these
big even some of the bigger breeds of dogs. And
they need the exercise, they need that movement. And of course,
you know, a big part of the filtration on the
body and that sort of thing is the lymphatic system
(31:34):
because of the livers are all compromised because of the chemicals.
And if if the filtration is being pushed out to
lymphaticism and they can't move because they're hurt, that's kind
that that basically creates even a bigger problem, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, because your muscles also help to you know, the
lymphatics to drain, help the blood flow to you know,
you push the the on.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
The arteries and the veins to well, you know, all
the blood for properly. So if your muscles are weak,
then you can end up with a lot of other
health issues as well.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, and of course you look at it, I mean
even the whole endocrine system and working as a system.
We do spae in neuters, which grew up the hormone
balance and you know, the enzyme balance and that sort
of thing that's really necessary. So when you or I
actually sometimes get to an animal, unfortunately we don't normally
(32:31):
are on the forefront of you know, being there when
they're born and whether they're being raised until they're being
sold and then they have problems. It just makes our
job much more difficult. We're going to be right back
after this quick message.
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Speaker 2 (34:26):
And welcome back to the health Cafe to show where
your pet has a voice. This is build a ped
health Guru along with doctor Michelle, my special guest, and
we're talking about chiropractic and basically the structure of the
animals and what we have to deal with. Again, the
chat room is open. Put in your questions. I would
also encourage you to share this like this and subscribe
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because doctor Michelle, you know, one of our biggest challenges
is just people knowing what they can do, because we've
been so blinded by this pathic model where everything's going
to be you know, the typical you know, animal hospital,
the veterinarians, and even on the people's side, you know,
(35:12):
the mds, that sort of thing. But I was doing
some research last week or the week before, and it
came up that there's now ninety different specialties in the
medical community and humans. And you know, you have a
doctor that Okay, I got an ear problem. Well was
it an inner ear problem or an outer ear problem?
You did you lose your ear or not? You have
(35:33):
four different practices right there, you know, and they're not
looking at the whole body in order for you to
do your job, don't you have to look at the
whole body.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I do.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Actually, it's every single joint is attached to each other.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
So you know.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
And then they're saying in the latest research that when
one vertebrae is not moving the way it should, it
affects four levels above and you know, or vertebrate above
and vertebrate below. So if you have like basically three
sublaxations in your spine, it's almost the whole spine, which
(36:11):
is your whole nervous system.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
You know. So if your.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Nervous system is shut down or diminished, you know, then
you have things that are not getting where the it
should beginning when they should be getting there. Like for example,
if you're eating and the food gets into your stomach,
then your body has to secrete an acid in order
to digest this food. If you don't have proper nerve
(36:35):
supply and the food gets in the stomach and the
acid doesn't get there, then you get an indigestion, or
if it's acid gets there too early, then you get
a heart barn. Then the food that's partially digestive goes
into the intestine.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Then you're intestine. You end up with gas or diarrhea
or constipation or you know.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
So that's only for one area, and so you could
look at the heart and lungs and the.
Speaker 7 (37:05):
Reproductive system and it's you know, it's interesting because you know,
with me being on the nutrition side and on the
food side, one of the major complaints that we have,
of course, number one, when we change a diet, the
body's got to go through a cleanse.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
It's got to get rid of the bad stuff that's
in there, all the toxins and the drugs and everything
else that's screwing up the gut itself. The second complaint,
of course, is then you know, I'm dealing with loose stool, diarrhea,
things of this nature. Well, first off, the stool is
supposed to always be soft, and most clients don't understand that.
It was actually one of the big four food companies
(37:42):
that started adding stool hardening agents so that animals have
to strain, but they said it was easier to clean up.
I know, it's nuts what they do. But anyway, are
there specific adjustments therapies that you look at for you know,
battling things like the like you know, transitional bad stomach
(38:08):
and we know that. Of course, the biome is a big,
big portion of that because it's been killed off. But
to open up the right channels basically that will aid
in digestion.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yes, And also I wanted to mention it just because
an animal has diarrhea or is vomiting doesn't necessarily mean
they're sick.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Right, because sometimes yeah, sometimes their body is just saying, oh,
I don't like this, so it's going to get rid
of it. So that absolutely means that the body is healthy.
So sometimes we got to look at health outside.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
The box a little bit, you know, Yes we do.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yeah, But there.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Are times though that they're not getting the right amount
of stomach acid or at the right time, that there's
other factors that are limiting that the digestive enzymes that
they need, and that's being controlled by somewhat by blood
flow and probably by nerves as well, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
The nerves or yes, the nerves are the ones that control.
The nerves are the one that causes the secretion of
chemicals in the body. So your body needs chemicals to
do everything. It needs a chemical to wake up in
the morning, you need a chemical to false leaves at night,
you need a chemical for digestions. You need a chemical
for you know, for everything that your body does, and
(39:29):
those chemicals are controlled by the nervous system. You know,
like your direct gland is controlled by your nervous system.
Your you know, sexual works, you're controlled in the nervous system.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
You know. A question that always pops up in my mind,
but I know the actual answer because it's all about
money most of the time. But why is it that
the average animal hospital doesn't you utilize any any form
of chiropractic. I mean, what's the negat through that?
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Why are they not using chiropractics enough?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I think I think a lot of them don't know
anything about chiropractic, so they don't you know, they don't
know what we do, and they're afraid to I've heard
a veterinarian who actually works with me say that they're
afraid to refer sometimes because the neurologists will.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Get mad at them or you know.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
So there's a whole there's a lot of education that
needs to be done with chiropractic, and you know, unfortunately,
it's very hard to get to the veterinarians so that
we can educate them because they're very busy and they
don't have time to look at that.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
You know so well, you know that you know, I
went through the same thing when I was putting together
some of my botanical blends and things of that nature.
That you know, people that are using botanicals for heartworm prevention,
for instance, and you know, they go to the you know,
their practitioner and they say, you know, when they offer
(41:05):
the chemical solution of it, it's like, no, I'm doing
something natural. Well, I don't know anything about that. And
then they go back six months later, I don't know
anything about that. And then the next time they go
in they actually take in paperwork, you know, research studies
and you know, articles off the off the net or
out of medical books or whatever, and drop them off
(41:26):
for the veterinarian. And they go back in again and
it's like they get the same answer, I don't know
anything about this. Well, if you're a client of a doctor,
don't you think it's their obligation to know what these
things are at least to take the fifteen the thirty
seconds to do a quick Google search. And you know
they're taking your money, shouldn't And you know, and I
(41:47):
hear this a lot, Well, I love my veterinarian. I
love my doctor. You know, my heart surgeon was the
best in the world because he saved my life. Well,
you didn't know that you were going to die because
there is no checkout date on you know, on your ticket.
You could have probably you know, in many cases a
lot of surgeries and a lot of procedures, the body
will will cure itself. We see that with cancers, especially
(42:08):
every single day. We see that with diabetes every day.
You know, they're not diseases. There are blips on a timeline.
Sometimes it's just it's an occurrence, it's an episode and
the body, as you mentioned, regenerate itself. We don't know
about the last three minutes in the show. So tell
(42:30):
people where you can where they can find you. I
know we're setting up a meet and greet at my
palaeo pet for tomorrow if anybody wants to come and
see you. And how else can they reach you?
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (42:43):
So they can reach me by phone number. That's the
easiest way.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
Five six, one seven eight eight one four four eight
call or text. I also have an email of Dr
Michelle M at gmail dot com.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
So d R M.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
I C.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
A M at gmail dot com and I work in
Vero Beach.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
I also work in Whyton Beach and then now I'm
starting to work a little bit and pumping the beach.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
Yes, and we're glad to have you, by the way,
but yeah, it's uh, it's important that you start early
with how often how you know what we mentioned when
they should start, how often you really should have Should
the average pet need at least a quickie exam?
Speaker 4 (43:32):
At least a quick exam. I would say every three months.
They shouldn't be checked if they don't have any issues.
If they have issues, usually I'll see them once a
week until they get you know, to where we can
spread out the visits. So depending on the kitten, condition,
the age, and you know everything else, then that's when
(43:52):
I can determine. The older the pet, the more probably
they need because you know, we can keep them having
more quality of life for a longer period of time.
And usually that means they live longer because you know,
we put our we put them down and they don't
have any more quality of life.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Right now, Okay, you know we're here at the end
of the show. I want to first off, thank you
for coming on, thank you for being a friend and
a client, and you know, working with us as far
as what we're trying to do with the animals, obviously,
our goal is to try to do things as most
as naturally as we can. No drugs, no chemicals, that
sort of thing is a great fit. Again, I want
(44:33):
to thank you for coming on and sharing it and
giving us a lot of insight as to it's not
just cracking bones, it's basically making the animal healthy again.
So with that being said, thank you doctor Michelle. It
is a pleasure having you. I'll see you tomorrow obviously
at my Palaeo pat for your meet and greet, And
with that, thank you for watching out there. I hope
(44:54):
this was good for you, and good night.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
Thank you forv.
Speaker 6 (45:07):
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