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Any health related information on the followingshow provides general information only. Content presented
on any show by any host orguests should not be substituted for a doctor's
advice. Always consult your physician beforebeginning any new diet, exercise, or
treatment program. Then now it's timefor Pet Health Cafe where your Pet has
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a Voice. And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, and
welcome to the Pet Health Cafe,the show where your Pet has a Voice.
This is Bill the Pet Health Guru, and have a very very special
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guest on tonight. And as always, of course, we'll have the chat
open so that if you have anyquestions or comments, please feel free to
enter them in. Also make surethat you like and share and subscribe because
the messages that we put out hereare just things you will not find on
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the normal news information circuits and thingsof that nature. So it's important that
we get our messages out and youknow this is you know what we really
want to do. So without furtherado, I want to introduce our special
guests, Marley Robbins on curing yourfatigue. How are you doing, Morley
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doing great? Bill, great tobe here. It's been a long time
coming. Yeah, to have thisconversation and look forward to any questions that
your listeners might have. Yeah,it's you know, it took us longer
from when I when I met youin our store to get our TV act
together, if you will, andget everything situated where it was supposed to
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be. And I didn't want you. It was opening, you know,
with all that you know, theearly jitters and all the you know,
equipment problems going on. But welcometo have you. And I'm sure you're
going to bring a welcome knowledge.This hour will probably go back by so
fast we won't even be blinking.That seems to happen a lot. Absolutely,
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yes, it does. I wantto start out, I mean,
would you like to tell our watchers, our audience, a little bit about
yourself and how we ended up gettingtogether. Yeah, thumbnail sketch effects.
I refer to myself as a premed retread, became a hospital executive and
then consultant, did that for thirtytwo years. At the end of twenty
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years of pulling a suitcase behind myback, my shoulder developed something called frozen
shoulder. I couldn't lift my handabove my waist and that got me to
a practor kicking and screaming. Whoreleased this joint by going inside this joint
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inside my mouth? And it wasa very painful procedure, but as she
did the adjustment, my arm wentup. It was absolutely a miracle.
Well, that chiropractor is now mywife. And he challenged me with a
phrase that she was using. Shewas talking about the innate healer, the
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healer within, and I didn't sayanything to her at the time, but
I thought to myself, if there'san innate healer, why do we have
millions of doctors around the world.And so I set out on a quest
and I've been working at every dayfor almost fifteen years now, two to
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three hours a day, researching articlestrying to understand how and why our innate
healer is not working. Book thatyou just alluded to that cure your fatigue
is just my summation of my research. That they're about thirty two thousand different
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conditions identified in the Merkmanual, andevery one of them one of them begin
with what's called cellular energy deficiency.And if you can't make energy, you
can't run the immune system, youcan't run the metabolic pathways, you can't
stand balance, and then symptoms develop, and then symptoms lead to doctor visits,
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and doctor visits lead to labels,and labels lead to drugs. And
that's how the system works. Andmy whole paradigm is, let's strengthen the
host and let's stop attacking the guests. And the conventional medical system is all
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about attacking toxins and pathogens and thingslike that. And I said, well,
why don't we just turn that aroundand start strengthening our energy production and
develop what's called the root Cause protocol, which is designed to overcome fatigue,
create energy, and allow the bodyto allow the innate healer to express itself.
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Is really what happens, you know. It's it's it's interesting because in
all the years I've been doing thison the pet side, it's always been
about letting, you know, nottreating symptoms and you know, labeling everything,
but rather giving the body the toolsthat it needs to rebuild itself,
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because it's that's what it's designed todo, isn't it absolutely. I mean,
what what we didn't realize is thatover the last century they've been very
slowly and thoughtfully taking nutrients out ofour soil, out of our food,
and out of our body, andthe world of farming has changed, the
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world of food processing has changed,and the world of pharmaceuticals have changed,
and that triad has created mineral deficienciesand nutrient deficiencies that are critical for running
our metabolic pathways. Well, youknow, it's interesting. One of the
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alternative networks, if you will.Last night did a special on the pharmaceutical
company and your ties with the governmentand how everything changed back in you know,
the early nineteen hundreds and when basicallyeverything was you know, if you
were sick, you basically went toyou know, a herbalist or you know,
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a neighbor that had had a homeremedy or something like that. We
didn't have pharmaceutical drugs until John D. Rockefeller became involved. And then of
course Carnegie jumped in with his Flexuurreport. And it's been downhill since then,
hasn't it. Absolutely? And theFlexner Report, you know, I
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think I was nineteen twelve was awatershed event that decimated a lot of different
alternative healing programs and put this focuson what's called allopathic medicine. And what
people don't may not realize, iswhat Rockefeller was trying to do is get
rid of coltar. He had hehad to get rid of something, and
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so he decided to use that asa basis for these medications, which is
just wicked when you really get downto it. Yeah, it is.
One of the things that came upin is dot comentary, just like you
said last night, is that whenthe AMA was formed, and of course
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they were starting to take over allall the medical schools and that sort of
thing, they were getting some ofthe older doctors that were doing alternative practices
like rbalism and acupuncture and that sortof thing enrolling in the medical schools,
and in order to stop that,they put in the rules about having to
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have a college degree before you couldgo to medical school. Like that was
that that was just a block thesepractitioners basically from getting in at all.
And that was that was that wasI found that, you know, to
be something I overlooked. I don'tknow how, but you know, I've
done so much digging, but yeah, it's that the whole system has been
really great from day one, hasn'tit? Oh? Totally. And one
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of my favorite stories about the earlyAMA was a lot of people maybe familiar
with the twelve step program, theAA program, you know, put together
by Bill right And actually what Billwas originally going to do, he was
going to treat alcoholism with vitamin Bthree with niosin, and this was in
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the Chicago area and the AMA caughtwind of this and they confronted him and
they said, you can't do that. He said, what do you mean.
They said, well, you'll bepracticing medicine without a license, and
so they forbid him to use niasin. And that's what drove him to create
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the twelve step program. I mean, he said, the shenanigans and the
restrictions that that body has placed onhealing has been legendary. Yeah, I
mean it really is. And ofcourse we've seen this, you know,
I've been seeing the same things.And because I was on the animal side
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all the time, and the veterinaryyou know industry ifuel, I don't even
call it a profession anymore, becauseit isn't just an industry, isn't it
totally? Oh, I mean,it's a business. It's a cartel.
They have quite a they have quitea profit nor. Yeah, And of
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course everything's tied in with government.You know, the FDA is you know,
funded by big pharma. Big chemicaland big food and you know,
every everything they want all the foodsprocess so they can use very poor,
poor quality foods, make them tastegood, load us up with more chemicals,
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which then the doctors have to thendiagnose and then cover up the symptoms
because they're not treating anything, arethey Well, they will tell you that
they're treating the symptoms. I thinkwhat they're beginning to realize is they're not
solving the problem. And what amajor event that took place in nineteen forty
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one that a lot of people don'tknow about. And this was in the
threat of the Second World War.It hadn't you know, hadn't hit the
US as much as it hit Europe, obviously in England. But in nineteen
forty one, the US, inEngland and Canada started adding iron filings to
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the wheat flower. We're not talkingabout organic iron. We're talking about iron
filings that you would scrape off apiece of metal, piece of steel,
and that had a devastating effect onour physiology. What happened about ten years
after that, they started noticing thatcholesterol was rising. What happens when you
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start adding iron filings, that's animmediate threat to our body. But it
also it has a dampening effect oncopper metabolism. And what people don't realize
is that copper is the general aniron is the foot soldier. But you
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know, there's big difference between generalsand foot soldiers. Generals have a lot
of brass on their shoulder, right, what's brass made out of copper?
Eighty eight percent copper. And sofor those who you know, remember or
knew about the Second World War,you knew about the Battle of the Bulge.
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To understand the difference between generals andfoot soldiers, try to picture of
the Battle of the Bulge without patent. It's a very different story. And
so generals have a lot of sway, not just in the theater of war,
but inside our body. And whenyou start adding iron filings and start
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fortifying food with iron beyond the filings, do you realize there's nine different forms
of iron being added to our food. And that's a rather stunning realization.
And how many of those nine differentforms cause cancer? All nine of them.
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And so the iron starts to dampendown the copper. So then iron
starts to have a bigger and biggerimpact in our body. Well, what
does iron like to do? Itlikes to play with oxygen, and outside
of our body we call it rust. Yes, well, inside of our
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body it's rust, but it lookslike plaque. And so that what happened
was iron was rising, cholesterol wasrising. And what they told us,
what they trained us to believe,is that the cholesterol was causing the heart
disease. No, that's not whatwas happening. The cholesterol was rising because
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copper was falling. Iron was rising, and the cholesterol is an oxygen sink.
It takes eleven molecules of oxygen elevenmolecules to make one molecule of cholesterol.
So the body uses cholesterol as away to mop up excess oxygen.
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But then what happened. The cholesterolgets rusty. It's called lipid peroxidation.
And the people are very familiar withthe good cholesterol and the bad cholesterol.
LDL is the bad one, HDLis a good one. But what they
never told you was there's an enzymeto turn bad cholesterol into good cholesterol,
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and it requires copper, ding,ding ding. And what they didn't tell
you is that the LDL was beingexposed to iron was getting rusty and that's
what was building up in the plaque, that's what was building up in the
arteries, and they got us tobelieve that cholesterol was the problem one.
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In fact, it was iron aalong and we've been held hostage now for
over seventy years around that one incompletestory being told by cardiologists. It's interesting
because going back to the nineteen ninetieswhen I really got involved in mourning in
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this heavy nutrition part of the industry. Yeah, there was a adopted actually
was a veterinarian that turned and thenwhen he got his MD and started working
with basically earth minerals in the naturalforms that we were finding. And of
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course during that, you know,coming up to that point, of course,
women were told in the fifties andthe sixties, you know, because
because there are women they need moreiron and you know, just because of
their cycling and things of that nature. And he, of course he was
looking at the supplement field nutraceuticals,which is actually just a branch of the
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pharmaceutical companies, and he said,actually, you would probably be better off
going out and licking the railroad tracksthan taking these supplements. And that's that
stuck with me since the mid nineties. It's like, you know, looking
at supplements and the recommendation that obviouslyit's coming from the from the allopathic model.
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The challenge, or the real struggle, is that the physicians that people
are so accustomed to going to havean MD degree, what they don't realize
what that stands for, stands fora mineral denialist. And they don't realize
that their diploma is actually printed onSwiss cheese because there's glaring holes in what
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they don't know about how the audyworks. And I tease doctors about this
all the time. And in thebeginning when I got into this work around
twenty ten, I really thought therewas this active campaign that the doctors were
all kind of conspiring. They're not. I had a very dear friend,
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Ben Edwards down in Lubbock, Texas. He said, wait a minute,
hold on, cowboy. He said, I just didn't learn this. I
didn't know that these whole minerals wereso important. And he said, you
know, you can blame my teachers, but don't blame me. And what
Ben got me to understand is thattheir education is incomplete. And I think
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it's a very fair assessment. Butwhat people need to realize is just how
incomplete their education is, and theyare sharing what they learned, and the
mistake, as I tease them,the mistake that they make is that they
have confused their training with the truthand they're not the same thing. And
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so I think people need to bemore willing to ask better questions. They've
got to be more willing to demandbetter answers, because we have been misled
and misfed along with the pets,the humans that the pet caretakers have been
grossly misled about what we are eating, what these conditions are, why they
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appear. And all I'm trying todo is pull the curtain back and reveal
what's really going on. Of course, I spell curtain with a hyphen between
the U and the art so youcan see the symbol for copper again.
And I appreciate you going up thetitle of the books that people know what
I'm talking about. But it's justthe part that I find fascinating, Bill,
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is that you'll see this poster behindme, and it's actually a poster
about Egyptian art. It's a beautifulpicture and which you'll see at the very
top. I have it there.Copper is right there. It's at the
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very top of the mineral pyramid,and the part that people can't really see
is around the perimeter of the triangleare unks, the religious symbol and the
Egyptian culture. They're not made ofgold, they're made of copper. Yeah,
we're against the break here right now. And when we come back,
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I want to talk a little bitmore about the education thing, because it
seems like the doctors, at leaston the veterinary side, never get any
nutritional education, don't really get physiologyanymore. And if you don't know how
the body works, how can youfix it? We'll be right back.
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The show where your Pet has aVoices is Build a Pet Health gurule of
my special Gus Morley Runns and ohwe got to comment. It just popped
up before wanted to break. It'samazing that the people that would that we
look up to, that we tellyou know, we're supposed to look to
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the experts, and yet they're nottaught the basics that how the body really
works and the you know, whatit needs to fuel it and to fix
itself. Like I said in thebeginning of the show, you know,
my approach have always been give itthe tools so it can fix itself.
And yet how can I be missingin his whole education? You know it's
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I grew up in a Christian household. It's a piscopalion. The advantage of
being episcopal is you have all thepomp and circumstances of the Catholic Church without
all the guilt. But they Ididn't believe in evil. I mean,
I've read the Bible. I justdidn't believe that that evil existed per se
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until I started doing this work andwhen I got into the real guts of
the research. And again you've gotto picture three hundred and sixty five days
a year, two to three hoursa day in fifteen years. I've read
a lot of articles. Yes,I mean tens of thousands of articles,
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and I was going to I wasgoing to comment on it. I mean,
you know, I mean, Iyou know, even just some of
the stuff that you put in yourbook. You know, if you're not
versed in this stuff, it isreally a hard read, isn't it.
Well it can be. Thank youfor doing that, by the way,
Well, no, there's it's likea late in life epiphany. I just
I suddenly woke up again. Whenwhen doctor Liz did that procedure and released
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this locked shoulder, I woke up. I was a different person. That
There's no other way to describe it. And so I'm doing my life's work.
I'm honored to do my life's work. And and but the real my
purpose, Bill is to help peopleget on the other side of their ailments
so they can get on with theirpurpose in life. Because we were not
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throwing this planet to deal with cancerand diabetes and heart disease and all the
afflictions that are so prevalent. Andit's just I'm very passionate about it.
I'm very excited to wake up everymorning and find some new factory that I
didn't know. Like yesterday, Iwoke up and discovered that when a woman
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is pregnant and is planning to breastfeedtheir child, she has a ten to
twentyfold increase in uptake of copper tosupport that process. Now, you,
having been around animals, maybe youknew that intuitively, and maybe you're more
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conversant with the mental requirements of animals. But it's like on the human side,
no one talks about minerals. It'sa great void in our understanding.
And like you said just a minuteago, they didn't teach us how to
take care of ourselves. And it'sreally basic things that we can do.
And that's really what the book getsinto. The second half of the book
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is just lays out a protocol ofstops and starts. Stop doing this,
start doing this, And it's verysimple things, but some of them are
counterintuitive and some of them are countercultural. Like when I tell people to
stop taking isolated vitamin D. Theyfreak out. I said, get your
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vitamin D from cod live oil thathas rets and all they go, oh,
okay, and then they're fine.But this idea that we've been told
to take things that maybe not ornot in our best interest, that can
be somewhat unsettling for people. Well. One of the things that with supplements
too, that people don't realize isand when you got these individual supplements,
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they had to be extracted from somethingelse or made in the lab, and
the body just doesn't know how touptake and handle them a proper way.
You know, we should be lookingfor the whole food sources for whatever vitamins,
minerals and nutrients that we need,shouldn't we Well? Absolutely. The
challenge we've got though, is thathow many, how you may be unique,
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but how many regenerative farmers do youknow? Personally? Very fun?
You know, I know a few, because of course I'm dealing in you
know, the foods and the grassfed here down here in Florida, and
you know we do all the rawdairy and that you had in your store.
It was, it was, itwas an oasis, an absolute thank
you. But it's it's tough,I mean to find those because because so
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much stuff is just being pushed everysingle day. I mean, there's food,
there's food shortages all over the place. And that's not not only on
the human sid but that's on alifestyle outside as well. Oh and of
course, you know, the livestockthat we're raising, if it's raised on
poor food, mineral deficient food,those foods are the eggs and the milk
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and the meat are all going tobe deficient as well, along with the
vegetables that they're eating. Absolutely true. Yeah, and again, if you
didn't grow up on a farm,and I didn't. I grew up just
outside of Baltimore, and my nicknameis Baltimore Lee. But you don't have
the awareness and doctors. My wifegrew up on an eight hundred acre dairy
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farm. Well, she knew whatfarming was all about. And it was
a very faithful day at the beginningof our relationship when she asked me,
he says, have you ever hadreal milk? I said what she said,
you know, I'm pastor. Isaid, no, that stuff will
kill you. Well, you knowwhat happened. We went to a farmer's
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market. We got unprocessed. Shepours it into a glass and Bill I
developed Parkinson's disease because I knew itwas going to kill me when I drink
it. Yeah, I just absolutelylive for it. But I know,
if you didn't, if you didn'tgrow up with that awareness, you don't
know about it. Out of side, out of mind. It's it's you
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know, the whole the whole thingis is so complex. And of course
you know, there's a lot ofother areas that we can explore that enter
into it, you know, everythingfrom ems to you know, I mean
I took a look at at justone ingredient in pet foods, in our
diet, corn and how much allgmo, which bastually is designed to make
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it, make it, make itinsect the site in the plant itself,
and then it's spread with glyphosate tokill it off the harvest, and in
between you have all these other chemicaltreatments, and then we feed it to
our animals and wonder why we can'tdigest our food. Right. So there's
a wonderful documentary it's called King Cornki ng CR Wonderful Doctor. For those
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who haven't seen it, you'll beabsolutely entertained and educated by what Bill just
said. And I think the partthat people need to understand about glyphosate roundup
is it's a it's a cop it'sa mineral key lator. It's a perfect
it's a perfect key lator of copper. And why do I say that,
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Well, it can kilate copper downto a pH of one, which means
nothing stops it. And the mineralkelating properties of glyphosate are measured on a
logarithmic scale, like you know earthquakes. So magnesium comes out at a three,
zinc at a nine, and copperat a twelve. So what does
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that mean. It means that itpulls copper out of the soil a billion
times faster than it pulls out magneeasy, and a thousand times faster,
pulls copper a thousand times faster outof the soo then it pulls out zinc.
Those numbers are hard to relate to, don't We don't know what a
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thousand times faster is. There wasa time when I could run an eight
minute mile, and my son atthat time was in college and he ran
a four to oh two, sohe was twice as fast as his old
man. And his old man wentto a gym to see what that felt
like. Almost killed myself. Butthe thing is a thousand times faster is
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a game changing chemical event. Andso the coppers being removed from soils all
over the planet, and then theyadd things like a high fruitos diet,
high fruit toose corn syrup. Itblocks copper uptake in ourselves. Copper's not
allowed in. And then we workwith medications, particularly antibiotics. People don't
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understand what antibiotic means, anti lifeand what is doing? How does it
kill that bacteria? It relates thecopper out so it can't function. And
the fourth generation antibiotics are very toxicto our health. And as you were
alluding to, we can't digest foodwhen we don't have copper. And it's
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and people say, well, itcan't just be one mineral, No,
there are many minerals affected. Butit's the it's the top of the pyramid.
You've got to be really mindful becausewhy is copper so special Because it
regulates iron and oxygen at the sametime, and those are two elements that
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like to come together to create rust, and so copper has a very special
role in our in our physiology.Now, when the copper came out of
our our soil as well. It'salso coming it's no longer available even in
our water supply. That's right,and you know in living water, because
most of our water is dead today, and I do was a comment
in the chat earlier in the shellfrom a plumber. You know, when
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we go back fifty seventy five yearsago, at least you know we were
when we were building new houses,you know, baby boomers, that's wort
of thing. We had copper pipes, so at least we were getting some
copper ions back in our water,weren't we Yes, yes, we were,
and we didn't have the level ofiron that we have today. People,
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Right, people don't realize within ourlifetime, Bill, I'll be seventy
one in about three weeks. Butwithin our lifetime, the changes in our
mineral composition in our body have beendevastating. Yes, And if you don't
know about minerals, if you don'tknow that they're the spark plugs, if
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you don't know that they're critical forenzyme function, if you don't know that
that's what the metabolic pathways run on, well then you just kind of move
move right along. But when youget into the world of biochemistry and physiology
and you're there's a wow factor tohow important these minerals really are. And
it's just it isn't part of ourawareness. You know, it's so true
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because it's you know, the bodyis a whole system. And actually we're
going to expand on that too.The whole universe is a system. It
all works together. You know that. You originally back in the in the
sixties that was fortunate enough to takeone of the first true ecology courses,
and it taught none about cleaning upbut the environment. It was about how
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the how the planet actually works,you know, the relationship between plants and
animals and all of that. Andyou know, with that understand that's probably
one of the main things that gaveme more of an understanding at that early
age that you can't isolate one thing, and you know, and that's basically
what we're doing with disease and thatsort of thing with the one pill systems.
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Uh Morley, And it's this wholecopper thing. I mean, it
goes into so many different areas ofour life, and especially you know,
you and I being older, likeI said, the copper pipes that we
have coming into the houses, andyou know, the actually living water back
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then even you know, and youknow, without all the fluorides and everything
else. And of course the otherthing is without the EMF. So this
is a question that I wrote downand I usually do most of my shows
just you know, let them flowfairly well, which I told you about.
But my question is really because I'mseeing so much of it. Copper
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is also used to transmit electricity,and you know, it's basically the primary,
isn't it. Well, I getfat five ber optics mayble, we're
taking some of that. But withall these EMFs and everything else, how
does that affect the copper in ourbody? That's a wonderful question. What
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I like to do with with folksis telling ask a simple question. What's
the metal that makes the tall buildingstand still? And its steel to iron,
and what's the metal that allows thetall building to move? And it's
copper because the utilities run on copper, the water historically I mean plastic now
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that historically copper pipes, and thenelectricity as you're bringing up, and what
you may be fascinated to learn isthat when the telegraph first came out,
it it was like in the eighteenfifties, they were using iron wire.
They didn't use copper right away,and then someone realized that copper was three
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times faster to transmit pulses, andthat's when they went over to copper.
So we what's what's fascinating is fortyfive percent of our tissue inside this bag
here, forty five percent of tissueis connective tissue, you know, the
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fascion and all the all the connectivetissues, the blood vessels and all the
all those different tissues are all madeby one enzyme. And that enzyme is
called lyceeal oxidase. And what doesit do. It knits collagen which is
strength collagen with elastin, which isflexible, knits them together to give our
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tissue integrity, strength and flexibility.And so we have this copper grid up,
you know, from stem to stern. And when people have really reactive
responses to being around EMFs, Iknow they are copper deficient and they are
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iron toxic because their body has allthat iron and it becomes an antenna for
the EMFs. And as soon asthey start to engage in the protocol and
begin to do blood donations to lowertheir iron footprint, they start to feel
a lot better. And so EMFsis a very serious issue, as you
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well know, it's become increasingly sensitiveand in the last four years because there
are a lot of changes made inour body over that time period. And
I don't know whether we want toget into all of that, but the
point is that experience changed our mineralstatus, and I think it's important for
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people to realize that that can becorrected. But it did have a significant
effect on the balance between copper andiron in our body. Yeah, I
mean, this is a short segment, and of course this hour is going
by so fast. Another part ofthe issue, of course, with the
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the you know, the the MFeffect, is the aluminum nanoparticles that have
been being dumped on us since thenineteen forties. Aluminium is another transmitter of
electricity and not nearly the difficient iscopper obviously, and they've had a lot
of problems with it, with basicallyburning down houses and buildings I found,
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and that's why I knew some ofthat. Absolutely, that's very true.
And I was just I was readinga fascinating article today by Christopher Oh my
goodness, he's known as mister Aluminum. I'm embarrassed. I can't think of
his last name because the need.But he wrote an article back in twenty
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thirteen where he basically exonerated copper.A lot of people think that copper causes
Alzheimer's. It doesn't. Well,copper's absolutely essential to prevent Alzheimer's. But
his point that he makes in thisarticle that appeared in Nature Journal, which
is a very prestigious journal, isthat in the presence of aluminum, then
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copper isn't as effective as it shouldbe. And he's always put the blame
on aluminum as being the real contributingagent for causing a lot of the neuro
deve generation, the autism, andso forth. Again, it's a debatable
point, but what's important is herecognized that copper as a critical it's called
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a redox active metal means it's doingboth reduction and oxidation, which means using
and gaining electrons. Only copper andiron do that, and copper plays nice.
I am not so much. Andhe recognized the value of copper in
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our neurochemistry. Well, you know, one of the things that I know
that I you know, mentioned itto you when you came by my store
is and and this kind of explainsit a little bit. There is this
is why people are both because ofthe dual nature of copper, why we
can be copper toxic and copper deficientat the same time, depending on what
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form it's in. And the otherthing with the aluminum is we know that
aluminum actually blocks the absorption of calcium, and that ties into the whole magnesiam
manganese, phosphorus and you know processagain, because we're dealing with a system,
We're not dealing with a component exactly. Let me just let me just
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clarify your point about the copper beingavailable and not available. A lot of
confusion around that. And back inthe turn of the century, back in
the nineteen hundreds up until about thenineteen forties, all the great scientists were
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studying two metals, copper and iron. They were obsessed with them because they
were trying to understand how energy wasmade. People like Otto Warburg, Conrad
LVM, doctor Sachs, and hugenames that people may not recognize, but
these were very important scientists who weretrying to figure out how does the human
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body really work. It wasn't untilthe sixties that the word zinc appeared in
science and it was Carl Pfeiffer whogot his PhD before he got his MD,
and he became a psychiatrist. That'ssignificant. He was actually a principle
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in the mk Ultra program. That'seven more significant. And he's the guy
who in the sixties late sixties wrotean article about unbound copper. And in
the article, what he specifically saidis that there are under certain conditions,
copper can become unbound from its proteinso rulo plasma. People have never heard
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of that protein. It's incredibly importantand it has one thousand and sixty six
amino acids. Insulin has about thirtyfive but very very important protein, and
it has eight coppers inside it.It's a beast and no one's heard of
it. And your doctor probably hasn'theard of it either. That's a scary
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moment. But what happens under certainconditions that protein can break down and release
the copper, and so doctor Pfeifferleft this impression that the copper suddenly became
toxic. It doesn't. It getsbound by albumen, it gets bound by
histadine, it gets bound by transcouprine, which is a transport protein for
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copper, and it's not as effectivein those attachments as it is with ceruloplasma.
But he left an indelible mark onpeople's mind that copper can be reactive.
And then there are scientists, mostnotably Svetlana Lutsenko at Johns Hopkins Medical
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Center in Baltimore, who have studiedthe amount of unbound copper inside the cell.
She really wanted to know. She'soriginally from Russia. She wanted to
know how much of this unbound copperis so reactive. And there's something called
zepto molar zepto molar m o laR and you put a zero point twenty
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one zeros and then a one,and that's how much unbound copper there is
in the cell. It's basically virtuallynot present. And the part that people
have never been told, and I'mhappy to share it with your audience,
is that this so called unbound isactually regulated by the ceruloplasman protein. It's
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a very smart protein. It knowsthat it needs to bring things back into
regulation. And the part that peoplemight find a little unsettling is to find
out that excess sugar will blow upceruloplasma. Oh yeah, they've been adding
sugar for a long time, anda scorbic acid that's not our friend.
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Whole through vitamin C is very differentthan a scorbic acid, and so a
scorbic acid. Back in nineteen fortyeight, when the two Swedish scientists were
unveiling their research about this protein,said oh, by the way, stay
away from a scorbic acid. It'llblow up this protein. That was a
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long time ago, Bill sure,nineteen forty eight, and we've been pounding
the ascorbic acid as a society eversince. We're actually at the end of
the day, coming up to theend of the show. Already, believe
it or not, I knew thatthis is what happened. And one of
the first things I want to dois obviously invite you back, because you've
got a lot more to share withyou. But in the last minute or
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so here, how can people reachyou and how can besides I mean,
obviously you need to come to myPalaeo pet or go on to our website
order your book, or onto yourwebsite and order the book. But how
else can I they tap into yourexpertise. Absolutely, go to my website
RCP for Root Cause Protocol RCP onetwo three. For those who are into
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social media, there's a Facebook groupcalled the Magnesium Advocacy Group. There's a
there's also a Facebook page, andthere's an RCP community. And for those
people who really want to delve intoit, I'm happy to respond to email.
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It's my first and last name.You can see it there on the
screen, Morley Robbins at Gmail.And for the precious few that really want
to reach out and chat, myphone number is eight four to seven nine
to two eight zero sixty one.Well, I should point out to people,
for those who are real gear headsthat really want to learn more about
this, we actually have an RCPinstitute and we are just now enrolling students
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for the next class that starts inFebruary, and people absolutely love that class
at sixteen weeks long, and youmight want to consider that the Root Cause
Protocol Institute. So just another oflearning more. Again, Molly, I
thank you. You don't know howmuch is help. It makes me feel
I mean to have you want toshow your expertise. You know, we
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all have our niches and that sortof thing. But again I want to
invite you back, you know,and you know, and you know,
maybe we can set up some sortof ongoing type thing because you've got so
much more. You've got so muchmore to share. So great. With
that being said, goodnight, folks, thank you for watching. Let's share
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treatment program. Then now it's timefor Pet Health Cafe where your Pet has
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a Voice. And here's your host, Bill the Pet Health Guru, and
welcome to the Pet Health Cafe,the show where your Pet has a Voice.
This is Bill the Pet Health Guru, and have a very very special
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the normal news information circuits and thingsof that nature. So it's important that
we get our messages out and youknow this is you know what we really
want to do. So without furtherado, I want to introduce our special
guests, Marley Robbins on curing yourfatigue. How are you doing, Morley
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doing great? Bill, great tobe here. It's been a long time
coming. Yeah, to have thisconversation and look forward to any questions that
your listeners might have. Yeah,it's you know, it took us longer
from when I when I met youin our store to get our TV act
together, if you will, andget everything situated where it was supposed to
(01:59):
be. And I didn't want you. It was opening, you know,
with all that you know, theearly jitters and all the you know,
equipment problems going on. But welcometo have you. And I'm sure you're
going to bring a welcome knowledge.This hour will probably go back by so
fast we won't even be blinking.That seems to happen a lot. Absolutely,
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yes, it does. I wantto start out, I mean,
would you like to tell our watchers, our audience, a little bit about
yourself and how we ended up gettingtogether. Yeah, thumbnail sketch effects.
I refer to myself as a premed retread, became a hospital executive and
then consultant, did that for thirtytwo years. At the end of twenty
(02:46):
years of pulling a suitcase behind myback, my shoulder developed something called frozen
shoulder. I couldn't lift my handabove my waist and that got me to
a practor kicking and screaming. Whoreleased this joint by going inside this joint
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inside my mouth? And it wasa very painful procedure, but as she
did the adjustment, my arm wentup. It was absolutely a miracle.
Well, that chiropractor is now mywife. And he challenged me with a
phrase that she was using. Shewas talking about the innate healer, the
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healer within, and I didn't sayanything to her at the time, but
I thought to myself, if there'san innate healer, why do we have
millions of doctors around the world.And so I set out on a quest
and I've been working at every dayfor almost fifteen years now, two to
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three hours a day, researching articlestrying to understand how and why our innate
healer is not working. Book thatyou just alluded to that cure your fatigue
is just my summation of my research. That they're about thirty two thousand different
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conditions identified in the Merkmanual, andevery one of them one of them begin
with what's called cellular energy deficiency.And if you can't make energy, you
can't run the immune system, youcan't run the metabolic pathways, you can't
stand balance, and then symptoms develop, and then symptoms lead to doctor visits,
(04:39):
and doctor visits lead to labels,and labels lead to drugs. And
that's how the system works. Andmy whole paradigm is, let's strengthen the
host and let's stop attacking the guests. And the conventional medical system is all
(04:59):
about attacking toxins and pathogens and thingslike that. And I said, well,
why don't we just turn that aroundand start strengthening our energy production and
develop what's called the root Cause protocol, which is designed to overcome fatigue,
create energy, and allow the bodyto allow the innate healer to express itself.
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Is really what happens, you know. It's it's it's interesting because in
all the years I've been doing thison the pet side, it's always been
about letting, you know, nottreating symptoms and you know, labeling everything,
but rather giving the body the toolsthat it needs to rebuild itself,
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because it's that's what it's designed todo, isn't it absolutely. I mean,
what what we didn't realize is thatover the last century they've been very
slowly and thoughtfully taking nutrients out ofour soil, out of our food,
and out of our body, andthe world of farming has changed, the
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world of food processing has changed,and the world of pharmaceuticals have changed,
and that triad has created mineral deficienciesand nutrient deficiencies that are critical for running
our metabolic pathways. Well, youknow, it's interesting. One of the
(06:30):
alternative networks, if you will.Last night did a special on the pharmaceutical
company and your ties with the governmentand how everything changed back in you know,
the early nineteen hundreds and when basicallyeverything was you know, if you
were sick, you basically went toyou know, a herbalist or you know,
(07:00):
a neighbor that had had a homeremedy or something like that. We
didn't have pharmaceutical drugs until John D. Rockefeller became involved. And then of
course Carnegie jumped in with his Flexuurreport. And it's been downhill since then,
hasn't it. Absolutely? And theFlexner Report, you know, I
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think I was nineteen twelve was awatershed event that decimated a lot of different
alternative healing programs and put this focuson what's called allopathic medicine. And what
people don't may not realize, iswhat Rockefeller was trying to do is get
rid of coltar. He had hehad to get rid of something, and
(07:47):
so he decided to use that asa basis for these medications, which is
just wicked when you really get downto it. Yeah, it is.
One of the things that came upin is dot comentary, just like you
said last night, is that whenthe AMA was formed, and of course
(08:09):
they were starting to take over allall the medical schools and that sort of
thing, they were getting some ofthe older doctors that were doing alternative practices
like rbalism and acupuncture and that sortof thing enrolling in the medical schools,
and in order to stop that,they put in the rules about having to
(08:31):
have a college degree before you couldgo to medical school. Like that was
that that was just a block thesepractitioners basically from getting in at all.
And that was that was that wasI found that, you know, to
be something I overlooked. I don'tknow how, but you know, I've
done so much digging, but yeah, it's that the whole system has been
really great from day one, hasn'tit? Oh? Totally. And one
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of my favorite stories about the earlyAMA was a lot of people maybe familiar
with the twelve step program, theAA program, you know, put together
by Bill right And actually what Billwas originally going to do, he was
going to treat alcoholism with vitamin Bthree with niosin, and this was in
(09:20):
the Chicago area and the AMA caughtwind of this and they confronted him and
they said, you can't do that. He said, what do you mean.
They said, well, you'll bepracticing medicine without a license, and
so they forbid him to use niasin. And that's what drove him to create
(09:41):
the twelve step program. I mean, he said, the shenanigans and the
restrictions that that body has placed onhealing has been legendary. Yeah, I
mean it really is. And ofcourse we've seen this, you know,
I've been seeing the same things.And because I was on the animal side
(10:03):
all the time, and the veterinaryyou know industry ifuel, I don't even
call it a profession anymore, becauseit isn't just an industry, isn't it
totally? Oh, I mean,it's a business. It's a cartel.
They have quite a they have quitea profit nor. Yeah, And of
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course everything's tied in with government.You know, the FDA is you know,
funded by big pharma. Big chemicaland big food and you know,
every everything they want all the foodsprocess so they can use very poor,
poor quality foods, make them tastegood, load us up with more chemicals,
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which then the doctors have to thendiagnose and then cover up the symptoms
because they're not treating anything, arethey Well, they will tell you that
they're treating the symptoms. I thinkwhat they're beginning to realize is they're not
solving the problem. And what amajor event that took place in nineteen forty
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one that a lot of people don'tknow about. And this was in the
threat of the Second World War.It hadn't you know, hadn't hit the
US as much as it hit Europe, obviously in England. But in nineteen
forty one, the US, inEngland and Canada started adding iron filings to
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the wheat flower. We're not talkingabout organic iron. We're talking about iron
filings that you would scrape off apiece of metal, piece of steel,
and that had a devastating effect onour physiology. What happened about ten years
after that, they started noticing thatcholesterol was rising. What happens when you
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start adding iron filings, that's animmediate threat to our body. But it
also it has a dampening effect oncopper metabolism. And what people don't realize
is that copper is the general aniron is the foot soldier. But you
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know, there's big difference between generalsand foot soldiers. Generals have a lot
of brass on their shoulder, right, what's brass made out of copper?
Eighty eight percent copper. And sofor those who you know, remember or
knew about the Second World War,you knew about the Battle of the Bulge.
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To understand the difference between generals andfoot soldiers, try to picture of
the Battle of the Bulge without patent. It's a very different story. And
so generals have a lot of sway, not just in the theater of war,
but inside our body. And whenyou start adding iron filings and start
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fortifying food with iron beyond the filings, do you realize there's nine different forms
of iron being added to our food. And that's a rather stunning realization.
And how many of those nine differentforms cause cancer? All nine of them.
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And so the iron starts to dampendown the copper. So then iron
starts to have a bigger and biggerimpact in our body. Well, what
does iron like to do? Itlikes to play with oxygen, and outside
of our body we call it rust. Yes, well, inside of our
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body it's rust, but it lookslike plaque. And so that what happened
was iron was rising, cholesterol wasrising. And what they told us,
what they trained us to believe,is that the cholesterol was causing the heart
disease. No, that's not whatwas happening. The cholesterol was rising because
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copper was falling. Iron was rising, and the cholesterol is an oxygen sink.
It takes eleven molecules of oxygen elevenmolecules to make one molecule of cholesterol.
So the body uses cholesterol as away to mop up excess oxygen.
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But then what happened. The cholesterolgets rusty. It's called lipid peroxidation.
And the people are very familiar withthe good cholesterol and the bad cholesterol.
LDL is the bad one, HDLis a good one. But what they
never told you was there's an enzymeto turn bad cholesterol into good cholesterol,
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and it requires copper, ding,ding ding. And what they didn't tell
you is that the LDL was beingexposed to iron was getting rusty and that's
what was building up in the plaque, that's what was building up in the
arteries, and they got us tobelieve that cholesterol was the problem one.
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In fact, it was iron aalong and we've been held hostage now for
over seventy years around that one incompletestory being told by cardiologists. It's interesting
because going back to the nineteen ninetieswhen I really got involved in mourning in
(15:52):
this heavy nutrition part of the industry. Yeah, there was a adopted actually
was a veterinarian that turned and thenwhen he got his MD and started working
with basically earth minerals in the naturalforms that we were finding. And of
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course during that, you know,coming up to that point, of course,
women were told in the fifties andthe sixties, you know, because
because there are women they need moreiron and you know, just because of
their cycling and things of that nature. And he, of course he was
looking at the supplement field nutraceuticals,which is actually just a branch of the
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pharmaceutical companies, and he said,actually, you would probably be better off
going out and licking the railroad tracksthan taking these supplements. And that's that
stuck with me since the mid nineties. It's like, you know, looking
at supplements and the recommendation that obviouslyit's coming from the from the allopathic model.
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The challenge, or the real struggle, is that the physicians that people
are so accustomed to going to havean MD degree, what they don't realize
what that stands for, stands fora mineral denialist. And they don't realize
that their diploma is actually printed onSwiss cheese because there's glaring holes in what
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they don't know about how the audyworks. And I tease doctors about this
all the time. And in thebeginning when I got into this work around
twenty ten, I really thought therewas this active campaign that the doctors were
all kind of conspiring. They're not. I had a very dear friend,
(17:48):
Ben Edwards down in Lubbock, Texas. He said, wait a minute,
hold on, cowboy. He said, I just didn't learn this. I
didn't know that these whole minerals wereso important. And he said, you
know, you can blame my teachers, but don't blame me. And what
Ben got me to understand is thattheir education is incomplete. And I think
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it's a very fair assessment. Butwhat people need to realize is just how
incomplete their education is, and theyare sharing what they learned, and the
mistake, as I tease them,the mistake that they make is that they
have confused their training with the truthand they're not the same thing. And
(18:36):
so I think people need to bemore willing to ask better questions. They've
got to be more willing to demandbetter answers, because we have been misled
and misfed along with the pets,the humans that the pet caretakers have been
grossly misled about what we are eating, what these conditions are, why they
(19:02):
appear. And all I'm trying todo is pull the curtain back and reveal
what's really going on. Of course, I spell curtain with a hyphen between
the U and the art so youcan see the symbol for copper again.
And I appreciate you going up thetitle of the books that people know what
I'm talking about. But it's justthe part that I find fascinating, Bill,
(19:26):
is that you'll see this poster behindme, and it's actually a poster
about Egyptian art. It's a beautifulpicture and which you'll see at the very
top. I have it there.Copper is right there. It's at the
(19:48):
very top of the mineral pyramid,and the part that people can't really see
is around the perimeter of the triangleare unks, the religious symbol and the
Egyptian culture. They're not made ofgold, they're made of copper. Yeah,
we're against the break here right now. And when we come back,
(20:11):
I want to talk a little bitmore about the education thing, because it
seems like the doctors, at leaston the veterinary side, never get any
nutritional education, don't really get physiologyanymore. And if you don't know how
the body works, how can youfix it? We'll be right back.
(20:36):
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The show where your Pet has aVoices is Build a Pet Health gurule of
my special Gus Morley Runns and ohwe got to comment. It just popped
up before wanted to break. It'samazing that the people that would that we
look up to, that we tellyou know, we're supposed to look to
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the experts, and yet they're nottaught the basics that how the body really
works and the you know, whatit needs to fuel it and to fix
itself. Like I said in thebeginning of the show, you know,
my approach have always been give itthe tools so it can fix itself.
And yet how can I be missingin his whole education? You know it's
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I grew up in a Christian household. It's a piscopalion. The advantage of
being episcopal is you have all thepomp and circumstances of the Catholic Church without
all the guilt. But they Ididn't believe in evil. I mean,
I've read the Bible. I justdidn't believe that that evil existed per se
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until I started doing this work andwhen I got into the real guts of
the research. And again you've gotto picture three hundred and sixty five days
a year, two to three hoursa day in fifteen years. I've read
a lot of articles. Yes,I mean tens of thousands of articles,
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and I was going to I wasgoing to comment on it. I mean,
you know, I mean, Iyou know, even just some of
the stuff that you put in yourbook. You know, if you're not
versed in this stuff, it isreally a hard read, isn't it.
Well it can be. Thank youfor doing that, by the way,
Well, no, there's it's likea late in life epiphany. I just
I suddenly woke up again. Whenwhen doctor Liz did that procedure and released
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this locked shoulder, I woke up. I was a different person. That
There's no other way to describe it. And so I'm doing my life's work.
I'm honored to do my life's work. And and but the real my
purpose, Bill is to help peopleget on the other side of their ailments
so they can get on with theirpurpose in life. Because we were not
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throwing this planet to deal with cancerand diabetes and heart disease and all the
afflictions that are so prevalent. Andit's just I'm very passionate about it.
I'm very excited to wake up everymorning and find some new factory that I
didn't know. Like yesterday, Iwoke up and discovered that when a woman
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is pregnant and is planning to breastfeedtheir child, she has a ten to
twentyfold increase in uptake of copper tosupport that process. Now, you,
having been around animals, maybe youknew that intuitively, and maybe you're more
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conversant with the mental requirements of animals. But it's like on the human side,
no one talks about minerals. It'sa great void in our understanding.
And like you said just a minuteago, they didn't teach us how to
take care of ourselves. And it'sreally basic things that we can do.
And that's really what the book getsinto. The second half of the book
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is just lays out a protocol ofstops and starts. Stop doing this,
start doing this, And it's verysimple things, but some of them are
counterintuitive and some of them are countercultural. Like when I tell people to
stop taking isolated vitamin D. Theyfreak out. I said, get your
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vitamin D from cod live oil thathas rets and all they go, oh,
okay, and then they're fine.But this idea that we've been told
to take things that maybe not ornot in our best interest, that can
be somewhat unsettling for people. Well. One of the things that with supplements
too, that people don't realize isand when you got these individual supplements,
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they had to be extracted from somethingelse or made in the lab, and
the body just doesn't know how touptake and handle them a proper way.
You know, we should be lookingfor the whole food sources for whatever vitamins,
minerals and nutrients that we need,shouldn't we Well? Absolutely. The
challenge we've got though, is thathow many, how you may be unique,
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but how many regenerative farmers do youknow? Personally? Very fun?
You know, I know a few, because of course I'm dealing in you
know, the foods and the grassfed here down here in Florida, and
you know we do all the rawdairy and that you had in your store.
It was, it was, itwas an oasis, an absolute thank
you. But it's it's tough,I mean to find those because because so
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much stuff is just being pushed everysingle day. I mean, there's food,
there's food shortages all over the place. And that's not not only on
the human sid but that's on alifestyle outside as well. Oh and of
course, you know, the livestockthat we're raising, if it's raised on
poor food, mineral deficient food,those foods are the eggs and the milk
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and the meat are all going tobe deficient as well, along with the
vegetables that they're eating. Absolutely true. Yeah, and again, if you
didn't grow up on a farm,and I didn't. I grew up just
outside of Baltimore, and my nicknameis Baltimore Lee. But you don't have
the awareness and doctors. My wifegrew up on an eight hundred acre dairy
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farm. Well, she knew whatfarming was all about. And it was
a very faithful day at the beginningof our relationship when she asked me,
he says, have you ever hadreal milk? I said what she said,
you know, I'm pastor. Isaid, no, that stuff will
kill you. Well, you knowwhat happened. We went to a farmer's
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market. We got unprocessed. Shepours it into a glass and Bill I
developed Parkinson's disease because I knew itwas going to kill me when I drink
it. Yeah, I just absolutelylive for it. But I know,
if you didn't, if you didn'tgrow up with that awareness, you don't
know about it. Out of side, out of mind. It's it's you
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know, the whole the whole thingis is so complex. And of course
you know, there's a lot ofother areas that we can explore that enter
into it, you know, everythingfrom ems to you know, I mean
I took a look at at justone ingredient in pet foods, in our
diet, corn and how much allgmo, which bastually is designed to make
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it, make it, make itinsect the site in the plant itself,
and then it's spread with glyphosate tokill it off the harvest, and in
between you have all these other chemicaltreatments, and then we feed it to
our animals and wonder why we can'tdigest our food. Right. So there's
a wonderful documentary it's called King Cornki ng CR Wonderful Doctor. For those
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who haven't seen it, you'll beabsolutely entertained and educated by what Bill just
said. And I think the partthat people need to understand about glyphosate roundup
is it's a it's a cop it'sa mineral key lator. It's a perfect
it's a perfect key lator of copper. And why do I say that,
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Well, it can kilate copper downto a pH of one, which means
nothing stops it. And the mineralkelating properties of glyphosate are measured on a
logarithmic scale, like you know earthquakes. So magnesium comes out at a three,
zinc at a nine, and copperat a twelve. So what does
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that mean. It means that itpulls copper out of the soil a billion
times faster than it pulls out magneeasy, and a thousand times faster,
pulls copper a thousand times faster outof the soo then it pulls out zinc.
Those numbers are hard to relate to, don't We don't know what a
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thousand times faster is. There wasa time when I could run an eight
minute mile, and my son atthat time was in college and he ran
a four to oh two, sohe was twice as fast as his old
man. And his old man wentto a gym to see what that felt
like. Almost killed myself. Butthe thing is a thousand times faster is
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a game changing chemical event. Andso the coppers being removed from soils all
over the planet, and then theyadd things like a high fruitos diet,
high fruit toose corn syrup. Itblocks copper uptake in ourselves. Copper's not
allowed in. And then we workwith medications, particularly antibiotics. People don't
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understand what antibiotic means, anti lifeand what is doing? How does it
kill that bacteria? It relates thecopper out so it can't function. And
the fourth generation antibiotics are very toxicto our health. And as you were
alluding to, we can't digest foodwhen we don't have copper. And it's
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and people say, well, itcan't just be one mineral, No,
there are many minerals affected. Butit's the it's the top of the pyramid.
You've got to be really mindful becausewhy is copper so special Because it
regulates iron and oxygen at the sametime, and those are two elements that
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like to come together to create rust, and so copper has a very special
role in our in our physiology.Now, when the copper came out of
our our soil as well. It'salso coming it's no longer available even in
our water supply. That's right,and you know in living water, because
most of our water is dead today, and I do was a comment
in the chat earlier in the shellfrom a plumber. You know, when
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we go back fifty seventy five yearsago, at least you know we were
when we were building new houses,you know, baby boomers, that's wort
of thing. We had copper pipes, so at least we were getting some
copper ions back in our water,weren't we Yes, yes, we were,
and we didn't have the level ofiron that we have today. People,
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Right, people don't realize within ourlifetime, Bill, I'll be seventy
one in about three weeks. Butwithin our lifetime, the changes in our
mineral composition in our body have beendevastating. Yes, And if you don't
know about minerals, if you don'tknow that they're the spark plugs, if
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you don't know that they're critical forenzyme function, if you don't know that
that's what the metabolic pathways run on, well then you just kind of move
move right along. But when youget into the world of biochemistry and physiology
and you're there's a wow factor tohow important these minerals really are. And
it's just it isn't part of ourawareness. You know, it's so true
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because it's you know, the bodyis a whole system. And actually we're
going to expand on that too.The whole universe is a system. It
all works together. You know that. You originally back in the in the
sixties that was fortunate enough to takeone of the first true ecology courses,
and it taught none about cleaning upbut the environment. It was about how
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the how the planet actually works,you know, the relationship between plants and
animals and all of that. Andyou know, with that understand that's probably
one of the main things that gaveme more of an understanding at that early
age that you can't isolate one thing, and you know, and that's basically
what we're doing with disease and thatsort of thing with the one pill systems.
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Uh Morley, And it's this wholecopper thing. I mean, it
goes into so many different areas ofour life, and especially you know,
you and I being older, likeI said, the copper pipes that we
have coming into the houses, andyou know, the actually living water back
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then even you know, and youknow, without all the fluorides and everything
else. And of course the otherthing is without the EMF. So this
is a question that I wrote downand I usually do most of my shows
just you know, let them flowfairly well, which I told you about.
But my question is really because I'mseeing so much of it. Copper
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is also used to transmit electricity,and you know, it's basically the primary,
isn't it. Well, I getfat five ber optics mayble, we're
taking some of that. But withall these EMFs and everything else, how
does that affect the copper in ourbody? That's a wonderful question. What
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I like to do with with folksis telling ask a simple question. What's
the metal that makes the tall buildingstand still? And its steel to iron,
and what's the metal that allows thetall building to move? And it's
copper because the utilities run on copper, the water historically I mean plastic now
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that historically copper pipes, and thenelectricity as you're bringing up, and what
you may be fascinated to learn isthat when the telegraph first came out,
it it was like in the eighteenfifties, they were using iron wire.
They didn't use copper right away,and then someone realized that copper was three
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times faster to transmit pulses, andthat's when they went over to copper.
So we what's what's fascinating is fortyfive percent of our tissue inside this bag
here, forty five percent of tissueis connective tissue, you know, the
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fascion and all the all the connectivetissues, the blood vessels and all the
all those different tissues are all madeby one enzyme. And that enzyme is
called lyceeal oxidase. And what doesit do. It knits collagen which is
strength collagen with elastin, which isflexible, knits them together to give our
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tissue integrity, strength and flexibility.And so we have this copper grid up,
you know, from stem to stern. And when people have really reactive
responses to being around EMFs, Iknow they are copper deficient and they are
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iron toxic because their body has allthat iron and it becomes an antenna for
the EMFs. And as soon asthey start to engage in the protocol and
begin to do blood donations to lowertheir iron footprint, they start to feel
a lot better. And so EMFsis a very serious issue, as you
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well know, it's become increasingly sensitiveand in the last four years because there
are a lot of changes made inour body over that time period. And
I don't know whether we want toget into all of that, but the
point is that experience changed our mineralstatus, and I think it's important for
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people to realize that that can becorrected. But it did have a significant
effect on the balance between copper andiron in our body. Yeah, I
mean, this is a short segment, and of course this hour is going
by so fast. Another part ofthe issue, of course, with the
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the you know, the the MFeffect, is the aluminum nanoparticles that have
been being dumped on us since thenineteen forties. Aluminium is another transmitter of
electricity and not nearly the difficient iscopper obviously, and they've had a lot
of problems with it, with basicallyburning down houses and buildings I found,
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and that's why I knew some ofthat. Absolutely, that's very true.
And I was just I was readinga fascinating article today by Christopher Oh my
goodness, he's known as mister Aluminum. I'm embarrassed. I can't think of
his last name because the need.But he wrote an article back in twenty
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thirteen where he basically exonerated copper.A lot of people think that copper causes
Alzheimer's. It doesn't. Well,copper's absolutely essential to prevent Alzheimer's. But
his point that he makes in thisarticle that appeared in Nature Journal, which
is a very prestigious journal, isthat in the presence of aluminum, then
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copper isn't as effective as it shouldbe. And he's always put the blame
on aluminum as being the real contributingagent for causing a lot of the neuro
deve generation, the autism, andso forth. Again, it's a debatable
point, but what's important is herecognized that copper as a critical it's called
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a redox active metal means it's doingboth reduction and oxidation, which means using
and gaining electrons. Only copper andiron do that, and copper plays nice.
I am not so much. Andhe recognized the value of copper in
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our neurochemistry. Well, you know, one of the things that I know
that I you know, mentioned itto you when you came by my store
is and and this kind of explainsit a little bit. There is this
is why people are both because ofthe dual nature of copper, why we
can be copper toxic and copper deficientat the same time, depending on what
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form it's in. And the otherthing with the aluminum is we know that
aluminum actually blocks the absorption of calcium, and that ties into the whole magnesiam
manganese, phosphorus and you know processagain, because we're dealing with a system,
We're not dealing with a component exactly. Let me just let me just
(43:54):
clarify your point about the copper beingavailable and not available. A lot of
confusion around that. And back inthe turn of the century, back in
the nineteen hundreds up until about thenineteen forties, all the great scientists were
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studying two metals, copper and iron. They were obsessed with them because they
were trying to understand how energy wasmade. People like Otto Warburg, Conrad
LVM, doctor Sachs, and hugenames that people may not recognize, but
these were very important scientists who weretrying to figure out how does the human
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body really work. It wasn't untilthe sixties that the word zinc appeared in
science and it was Carl Pfeiffer whogot his PhD before he got his MD,
and he became a psychiatrist. That'ssignificant. He was actually a principle
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in the mk Ultra program. That'seven more significant. And he's the guy
who in the sixties late sixties wrotean article about unbound copper. And in
the article, what he specifically saidis that there are under certain conditions,
copper can become unbound from its proteinso rulo plasma. People have never heard
(45:28):
of that protein. It's incredibly importantand it has one thousand and sixty six
amino acids. Insulin has about thirtyfive but very very important protein, and
it has eight coppers inside it.It's a beast and no one's heard of
it. And your doctor probably hasn'theard of it either. That's a scary
(45:51):
moment. But what happens under certainconditions that protein can break down and release
the copper, and so doctor Pfeifferleft this impression that the copper suddenly became
toxic. It doesn't. It getsbound by albumen, it gets bound by
histadine, it gets bound by transcouprine, which is a transport protein for
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copper, and it's not as effectivein those attachments as it is with ceruloplasma.
But he left an indelible mark onpeople's mind that copper can be reactive.
And then there are scientists, mostnotably Svetlana Lutsenko at Johns Hopkins Medical
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Center in Baltimore, who have studiedthe amount of unbound copper inside the cell.
She really wanted to know. She'soriginally from Russia. She wanted to
know how much of this unbound copperis so reactive. And there's something called
zepto molar zepto molar m o laR and you put a zero point twenty
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one zeros and then a one,and that's how much unbound copper there is
in the cell. It's basically virtuallynot present. And the part that people
have never been told, and I'mhappy to share it with your audience,
is that this so called unbound isactually regulated by the ceruloplasman protein. It's
(47:29):
a very smart protein. It knowsthat it needs to bring things back into
regulation. And the part that peoplemight find a little unsettling is to find
out that excess sugar will blow upceruloplasma. Oh yeah, they've been adding
sugar for a long time, anda scorbic acid that's not our friend.
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Whole through vitamin C is very differentthan a scorbic acid, and so a
scorbic acid. Back in nineteen fortyeight, when the two Swedish scientists were
unveiling their research about this protein,said oh, by the way, stay
away from a scorbic acid. It'llblow up this protein. That was a
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long time ago, Bill sure,nineteen forty eight, and we've been pounding
the ascorbic acid as a society eversince. We're actually at the end of
the day, coming up to theend of the show. Already, believe
it or not, I knew thatthis is what happened. And one of
the first things I want to dois obviously invite you back, because you've
got a lot more to share withyou. But in the last minute or
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so here, how can people reachyou and how can besides I mean,
obviously you need to come to myPalaeo pet or go on to our website
order your book, or onto yourwebsite and order the book. But how
else can I they tap into yourexpertise. Absolutely, go to my website
RCP for Root Cause Protocol RCP onetwo three. For those who are into
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social media, there's a Facebook groupcalled the Magnesium Advocacy Group. There's a
there's also a Facebook page, andthere's an RCP community. And for those
people who really want to delve intoit, I'm happy to respond to email.
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It's my first and last name.You can see it there on the
screen, Morley Robbins at Gmail.And for the precious few that really want
to reach out and chat, myphone number is eight four to seven nine
to two eight zero sixty one.Well, I should point out to people,
for those who are real gear headsthat really want to learn more about
this, we actually have an RCPinstitute and we are just now enrolling students
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for the next class that starts inFebruary, and people absolutely love that class
at sixteen weeks long, and youmight want to consider that the Root Cause
Protocol Institute. So just another oflearning more. Again, Molly, I
thank you. You don't know howmuch is help. It makes me feel
I mean to have you want toshow your expertise. You know, we
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all have our niches and that sortof thing. But again I want to
invite you back, you know,and you know, and you know,
maybe we can set up some sortof ongoing type thing because you've got so
much more. You've got so muchmore to share. So great. With
that being said, goodnight, folks, thank you for watching. Let's share
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