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May 15, 2025 • 51 mins
The 2025 NFL schedule has been released. How did the Pittsburgh Steelers fare this year from the schedule makers?

Joe and Brian discuss the highlights and lowlights of the 2025 calendar, including a lack of home games and if the team has a brutal stretch to watch for as they did last season.

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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Underground, The steel City Underground, the black
and gold standard for Pittsburgh Steelers coverage.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Now here's your hose. Joe Kuzma and Brian E.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Rose.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of the steels
City Underground podcast. My name is Joe Kuzma, joined here
by my good colleague and Powell, who's also battling a
little bit of a cold, and one mister Brian E. Roach.
But Brian, I know you're I was gonna ask how
you're feeling, maybe a little down or under the weather,
but thanks for joining us.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Otherwise, I'm grumpy, That's how I feel.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm not because of the schedule, not because of any
Steelers related news. I'm just grumpy because I have a
cold and last time I went out and rode my bike,
I felt like crap and it annoys me.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, I am a little grumpy about the schedule. I'm
just like you know. These are our first impressions for
this flash. Already went on the x or the Twitter
took our lead for predictions and put w for everything,
including the bye week, which is week five. I think

(01:14):
as early as it could possibly be. Are there week
four buyes too? I don't remember with the eighteen week
schedule in seventeen games now, but oh regardless, I always
feel like they find a way to screw the Steelers
and favor someone else. And we'll go through that with
my initial reactions to this. When we take a look
at this overall, let me see if I can get

(01:35):
at least some of the Steelers schedule up on the
screen and let me shut off the little fancy dudads
in the way. And here we go, and I mean,
we'll go through all of this most that's the whole thing. Yeah,
got the show's over. Yeah, well most of Thank.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
You everyone, good night, I have a wonderful weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Don't forget to tip your server. Well, you know what,
I wanted to show that for a reason because it's
easy to illustrate here. Most of the yous have already
seen this. You just want to hear what we think
about it. But we're kind of excited about that Week four, right,
the Minnesota Vikings. I'm not sure if I'm excited about
playing the Vikings necessarily. They were very hot last year.

(02:14):
But this is the Dublin game. This is breakfast for
people on the East Coast, and it's going to be
a nice trip for Steelers Nation. Also, there's a lot
of Vikings fans that attended last year when they played
the Bears in London. They're actually going to stay over
and play the following week. I'll get into that in
a second as well. But when we look at this, okay,

(02:36):
and you're looking at this from one way, we look
at this a lot of times, is you and I
season ticket holders, We attend a lot of home games.
We think about travel because we're not in the immediate
Pittsburgh area. I'm nowhere close to where I used to be,
where I was only an hour away. And when I
look at that and it's like, well, once again, can't

(02:57):
have an opening game at home because stupid Pirates, poverty franchise,
thirty plus losing seasons or whatever. Oh they were in
the postseason at one point here about a decade ago,
I think. But you get the idea. The Pirates they
always have this early afternoon game or one o'clock like
one a Sunday or whatever, and it just screws the

(03:17):
Steelers where you know, they share the same parking lots
and now Pittsburgh's usually on the road. Very rare Steelers
like once every ten years, get a game that Week one.
But it's also like Pittsburgh isn't known for having the
best of weather consistently. You will experience twelve different seasons

(03:39):
in western Pennsylvania and throughout you know, parts of Ohio.
And then you need to get into the midwest Pennsylvania.
Not in the Midwest, but western Pennsylvania a little bit
different weather, right, You're gonna experience hot, cold, whatever. And
I look at this schedule, I'm like, well, what games
can I wear a short sleeve shirt and shorts too?
Maybe one? Maybe that Week two home opener gets the
Seahawks September fourteenth, one o'clock. But they play like one

(04:03):
true home game. I mean, the Dublin game is technically
the Steelers are designated home, but they got to travel
to Ireland to play this game. They got to go
across the pond. So with all that travel, you know,
in the first four weeks, just the one game at Akroture,
that's that's kind of taxing for the first quarter of football.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, I mean, look, I'm still stuck on the twelve
seasons thing. I'm trying to figure out, like is this
like hobbit meals like you know, you know, second breakfasts
and whatnot, Like I don't know, I don't know where
you're living that there are twelve seasons.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
I'm confused.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Oh my goodness, yes there is. There's like there's like
fake fake fall or something, and then there's like fake spring,
you know, like you get a little bit of a
heat wave and then all of a sudden it snows
after it. And especially at Ohio, we experience these things
sometimes in the same day, so we know certainly it
is like the Hobbits eating their meals. Every time you

(04:59):
mentioned that you've mentioned on the show before. I think
of the old Taco bell commercials where you get fourth meal.
He's talking about fourth meal all the time. I was
they did perfect for after the bar scene when I
was a much younger lad who used to partake and
you know, staying up later. But regardless, that's part of
this too. When you travel, I look at the primetime

(05:20):
games and everything, and I'm going to talk about the
other AFC North teams. So I think let's kind of
go through this first. And I think that the schedule
makers had or have an inkling that mister Rogers and
Aaron Rodgers may be coming and signing with the Steelers

(05:40):
because they put the Jets as the first game in
the season. That's a home opener for the Jets. I
don't know if New York Jets fans are as lively
and into their team, and how hard of a ticket
that might be to get. They might just go just
to boo Aaron Rodgers if he is with the Steelers.
If not, you still have a matchup of former quarterback

(06:01):
in Justin Fields who signed with the Jets now facing
his former team, the Steelers, So they do still have
kind of a storyline there.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, I don't think I would go to that game
regardless because I'm not going to New York.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
To watch football. I'll stay home. But yeah, I don't
know that they know. I don't think anybody knows.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I still don't think anybody knows what he's going to do,
and I think they're just planning for the potential inevitability
that he may show up.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, always storylines, especially with the one o'clock games week one.
Those first few weeks, you don't have buys. That's you know,
that's red zone heaven right there. They'll be like seven
or eight games going. Although you know what, I do
say that. But we've got the international games now too.
I think they're the Brazil game might be that Friday.
So you've got the Cowboys and Eagles for the opener

(06:54):
on Thursday, and then there's a Friday game, so you know,
pump my brakes on that. But it's like, what extra game?
Oh okay, so there's like seven or eight going then
the West Coast Ones or whatever.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
I'm glad we're not they're not going to Brazil. I
think I'd get in trouble if I went to Brazil.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Why is that?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Because all I can think of is that Terry Gillen
movie Brazil, and so I would just wander around going
Brazil and somebody would hit.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Me and they wouldn't understand you because you'd be speaking
English instead of Portuguese. So anyways, yeah, I don't really
want to. I don't know, man, Like, sometimes I think
about these trips. We've discussed a possible pairing and going
to Ireland kind of thing. You were just there for
personal reasons or maybe just fun or whatever. But sixteen

(07:44):
years ago UK you were in the UK, so you
made a similar trip last year. I don't know, I
think of it. I'm like would I go to London.
I don't know. If the opportunity presents itself, yeah, maybe
I'll go Brazil.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's never been on my bucket list. That's just me personally.
Nothing Again, people naked on the beaches down there, I
mean there's people naked on the beaches probably in Ohio.
Doesn't mean they're allowed, but.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
That's not a good thing. That should not be allowed
the people they want to see. Though, certain places in
the country you don't want nude beaches at you might
not want to see some of the people that are
there nude either. So anyways, moving on, Seahawks got to
come over and play a one o'clock game coming off
the West Coast for a home opener, and it always
tends to be advantageous for the Steelers. I'll say that's

(08:30):
one that schedule makers may have given them, Seattle having
some turnover this year, quarterbacks, whatnot, the whole team dk
Metcalf revenge game. But this is a team much like.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
The Steelers that are usually you know, they're heads above water,
they're usually at least five hundred, they're usually a playoff team.
Nine or ten wins last year, but didn't make the
postseason because of the way the divisions played out, they
were the odd man left holding the bag. So that
could be a rough game. In fact, most of these,
some of these look a little rougher than others. And

(09:02):
you know, with the Jets, I'd be like, hey, you
know what I think. I think Justin Field's going to
have his hands full, especially like Week one, no matter
how much preparation that you end up giving either side.
Steelers defense, I think more of a cohesive unit with
some familiarity there. Week two Seahawks. That could be an
interesting game. Then they go on the road and play
the New England Patriots. It's another team where you don't

(09:26):
really know what to expect. Mike Vrabel taking over after
trying to if I can't remember his name, that was
the coach last year. Lasted one year, but Drake May
and year two there so still a team that's very
much in transition. Steelers, you know, they could have a
pretty good start to this season. I would think they could.

(09:47):
There's no reason to believe that no matter who the
quarterback is, that they couldn't be able to eke out
maybe ugly football games, as we say. Extension of preseason
early in September, maybe they could be two in one
or three and zero to kick this one off.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I will tell you I will be surprised if they
end up three and oho. And I don't care whether
Aaron Rodgers shows up or not. I'll still be surprised
if they end up three and oh. Not because I again,
it's because I expect it to be ugly football. I
don't know how how potent, how potent the offense is
gonna be yet, we'll have to wait and see. Like
this early on, I'm only basing myself off of last year,

(10:25):
and last year, you know, without certain quarterbacks didn't look
very pretty, and those games that they won could have
easily gone the other direction and lost. You know, you
can't count on the defense to get the turnovers. You
can't count on the defense to score points in order
to win games. You hope they will, but you can't

(10:45):
count on it. So if I'm looking at this, I
think from a flip side, you know, you break this
this season down. They could They could easily go oh
and three or three and oh or any version in between.
I just don't have enough info to make a reliable
expectation yet.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Well, I have enough information on my own. I still
think that the Patriots and Jets won't have it as
figured out just yet. So it's not like the Steelers
are coming out of the gate with Wait, do we
look at the Ravens schedule to start, and there are
some things that definitely favor them, but the opponents on
that schedule the first five or six weeks pretty pretty rough.

(11:23):
We already mentioned Week four at the in Dublin Ireland
International Game, Minnesota Vikings, and then the early bye, which
I'm not a fan of whatsoever. This is just you know,
this is nonsense. This is like after what they did
to him last year. It's just nonsense.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
I'm just looking at it this way.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
You had to go in international travel and then you
got to buy week I can live with that.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
It's early, Yes, it's early. I can live with it.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
I mean, look, would I rather it was three weeks
later four weeks later? Sure, I'd rather split the season
a lot nicer. But if you have to have it early,
I'd rather have it after the Ireland game.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Uh yeah, And I was gonna show you the Browns,
although you got to kind of squint to see this
one because it's fitting on a screen. I apologize for that,
but they go through and for whatever reason, their social
media people decided, aside from the goofy elf mascot revealing
your schedule, they decided instead of going left the right,
they were gonna be maniacs and go up and down

(12:26):
in the columns to show us where the Browns were playing.
So they they have the Bengals at home, the Ravens
on the road, the Packers at home, the Lions on
the road, and then go in week five while the
Steelers are on their bye week to play the Vikings
in London. Yeow man, is that a gauntlet in a half.

(12:50):
So they have two division games out the gate, then
they play three playoff teams from the NFC North and
then have to come to Pittsburgh. After this, Steelers are
already on a week five by to play Week six
at Akrasure Stadium. That is a very rough start for
the Cleveland Browns. You know, I'm not very I'm not

(13:11):
sad about it necessarily.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
So world's smallest violin playing.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Let me see, el I'm gonna try
and see if I could get. No, I can't get.
There's two stretch any bigger than what it is, but
I actually somehow made it worse. But it's already not
visually appealing. And since I have this up, I kinda

(13:40):
I wanted to float through. I'm gonna show you. We
talk about it. It is worse. I apologize. I will
take care of it at some point here. So regardless,
the worst schedule that you're going to see out of
these in the lack of graphic design. So we got
the Ravens while on pretty sharp. They put their team

(14:02):
players on there. Look, they got all the logos. It's
nicely highlighted. You could tell what's home and what's away. Right,
it's their team colors. I mean, it's enough to make
me want to vomit, but you know, it's still it's
very visually appealing. And we saw what the Browns were.
It was their ugly colors visual style. We saw the
Steelers one. But behold the power of is is paint

(14:23):
still a thing on windows? Because that's what the Bengals
graphics department came up with. They sent they sent this
over to like one of these sites where they do
the work for you for a few dollars, or they
might have did.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
It works not even paint like that's a power point
at best.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
It's it's so bad. I'm like, I'm like, this cannot
be what their what their social media team came up with.
And I mean, you've got very clever things that people
come up with. I like I said, I was making
fun of the Brownie.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
It's still yeah, I really enjoyed the Sasquatch attack, Like
I don't. I usually think those release videos are just stupid,
but I actually enjoyed the Sasquatch video. And and how
many of you raise your hand, how many of you
knew that was Cam Hayward before na reveal at the end?

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Be I for sure did.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
That's that's so crazy. I absolutely I love some of it.
I'm not going to say I love all of it.
So all right, I think I got this. Nope, still
didn't work. Oh well, I'm just gonna leave it for
now and we'll keep going with the Steelers one. So
the Steelers do have the advantage against the Browns there,

(15:41):
and then they got to travel and play a Thursday
night game against another division opponent on the road with
the Bengals in Cincinnati. It's like, come on, man, it's
like you got the buy and then you run right
into this, you know what I mean. At least they
had the break before, uh and play it home against
the Browns. But now you've got to go and play

(16:02):
that's like almost like you know, the deck stacked. We
always say that you got to play on the road
Thursday night football, pack it in, especially when it's a
division opponent.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Plus, it's not a game you end up going to,
right since he is a game at least for you,
that's easy.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
That's fairly easy to go to. But not on a Thursday.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, I totally agree. I'm still trying to get it
to We cannot get the graphics department to work today, folks.
I apologize, but so a little bit of a break.
And then there's a Sunday night game October twenty sixth
and Week eight against the Green Bay Packers. This one
is at home. It's the one time the Steelers have

(16:42):
back to back home games. It's the first of two
games stand. They have no other back to backs on
the schedule, unless you count Ireland game, which you know
does count if you're you know, I'm still not counting
as a home game. I just say neutral site. It's no,
they don't. And then a bye week and then the brown,
so they still have to travel, right. But the big

(17:05):
news from Art Rooney was new throwback jerseys. We don't
know what they are yet. They haven't been revealed being
worn for this game, so I guess we will see
what they cook up. He said throwbacks though. So the
throwbacks were the block numbers. I don't know if that
replaces the color rush. There's some speculation they're gonna wear

(17:26):
the all white, but they're gonna get the white pants out.
The Steelers don't wear white at home, so I just
don't see that. It would blow my mind if that happened.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, that would be very unappealing. That would be confusing.
I wouldn't like that.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, it would be I'm.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Gonna I'm just gonna tell you right now. I'm all
in on bumblebees. Bring back to Bumblebees. That's a throwback.
It's the best throwback. It's the most awesome. Bring back
to Bumblebees.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, I'd bring them back too. I was a big
fan of those. You know, I didn't like to CAACU
pants with them, like the roadside numbers.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
It's okay.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
You just have to remember the era that they were,
the era that they were designed for So here's about pants.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Nobody pants or pants? Who cares about pants? When you
when did you go buy a pair of Steelers pants?

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Right? When did you buy a uniform set of pants
that you could wear? No? You buy a jersey? Right?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Who cares about pants? You've got u smants. Look good,
look good, play good is the mantra. And they just
don't seven touchdowns in those pants. Like twice we get
rid of the puke color pants. Pants we've got. We've
got the graphic a little bigger on the screen, thankfully,
so and allions can all read it. November second, Steelers

(18:37):
will go back to a one o'clock Sunday game, hosting
the Indianapolis Colt's a very what do you want to say?
Common opponent for like the last five years. I feel
like they've played in Indy I think three times.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
It feel like they're just part of the AFC North Now. Yeah,
don't we just have five teams now and the Colts
are one of them.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
It totally feels that way. I've been to Indie two
out of the three. It ain't going. Trubisky started because
I was like, why would I, you know, just throw money? Like, yeah,
I too like to wipe my postterior with dollar bills
because I just have that kind of disposable cash, right,
So I am like, I'm not going there for that,
but I wanted to. I'm gonna bounce back a second.

(19:19):
I was gonna bring back the was it the Browns, Well,
you're still not gonna be able to quite see it
on the brown schedule. But I wanted to make this
point with Cleveland because we're gonna boomerang back around to
them at some point. Aside from the division games, everything
that's played out, they don't have a primetime game, right

(19:39):
The Steelers are gonna go and they're gonna the next
game is gonna be They're gonna be in LA. They're
gonna play the Chargers Sunday night. Cleveland doesn't play a
Sunday night game. They don't play a Thursday night game,
they don't have a Monday night game. They have two
games right now that are scheduled in the four o'clock window,
and everything else is a Sunday at one. That is
just it's absolutely mind blowing that the schedule makers could

(20:05):
cook this up. I'm just like, does that it doesn't
It just doesn't seem fair.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
That has more to do with it being Cleveland than
it does anything else.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
So I mean, there's the best. I mean that thing.
This burns my retinas to try and read this, and
it's and then it's not left to right like everyone
else is. So it's like it's all over the map there, right.
So that's my initial reaction. There are way games, I
think the four o'clock games. Let me see, there's I'm
looking at this properly. There's just the Raiders Ravens at home,

(20:39):
and then the Raiders right after it. So though even
then those games are back to back. You talk about
being creature of habit and getting into routines. I mean,
we don't know that their quarterback situations can be any
better better than ours, but you know, it kind of
helps when you don't have to travel as much. You
get some back to back. They only they have two

(21:01):
sets back to back home games, and when you look
at the end of their schedule, they get to play
for the last six at home also by week right
in the middle of the schedule. So when you hear
me complaining about a little bit of this when it
comes to the Steelers, a little bit of valid points
here when it comes to the way that their schedule

(21:22):
is structured, because in the second half of the season
this ends up being pretty brutal. You've got some playoff
teams here, you got to you know, it's and we're
talking about this on paper, right so we don't know
how anybody's going to be right now, we're basing it
off of last year. But at the beginning of the season,
you know, there's probably some winnable games there. We don't

(21:43):
know what the cold. The Colts are chargers, you know,
they were a playoff team. They're competitive. You get to
host the Bengals at home again week eleven. Then each
these are one o'clock games. Now you got a one
o'clock at Chicago on November twenty third, and then hosting
the Buffalo Bills right after Thanksgiving, and that's in the
four o'clock window. Then you finish the season by traveling

(22:05):
to Baltimore a Monday night game against the Miami Dolphins
at home. Short week, go to Detroit at least it's
in a dome for December thirty first, also in the
four o'clock window, travel to Cleveland December twenty eighth. That'll
be colder than a you know, what Man and then

(22:26):
hosting the Ravens in a to be determined game to
finish the season and close that out at Akrosure. But
there's only one home game against the Dolphins. For a
night game, it's not even good. You know, you don't
have the sun out, you don't get the normal complement
of tailgating, might not get the same amount of fans.
Who knows what the Steelers even look like by that point.

(22:47):
It might benefit the Steelers that the Dolphins are coming there,
and it could be not the best of weather. I
don't know. It's early December, so I don't know which
of the twelve seasons we get by then. I know
it's not Hell's Front Porch that happened in July, but
I mean, I just look at it and I'm just like,
you know, it's quite the juggernaut where you've got you know,

(23:09):
the Bengals. Okay, we don't know about the Bears, so Chargers, Bengals, Bears, Bills, Ravens, Dolphins, Lions, Browns, Ravens,
and we know playing the Ravens after playing the Browns
is probably going to be a pretty difficult contest. Although
they kept the Ravens themselves they get to kind of
trade that off. I think is let me say, I

(23:31):
mean the Browns and the Bengals will play each other too,
so they finished the season, So it does finish with
some divisional games. Maybe they'll matter, maybe they won't. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
So yeah, I looked at this yesterday when I was
looking through the schedule, and I my initial thoughts were,
is it as bad as last year's?

Speaker 3 (23:50):
No? Is it good? No?

Speaker 1 (23:55):
But you know, look, I gotta be honest with you.
I'm I'm I don't know how I'm feeling about this
season yet, right.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I don't know whether I'm convinced that the Steelers are
going to have a winning record and fail in the playoffs,
have a winning record and win a playoff game. I don't.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
I've said repeatedly. I don't think they're contenders this year.
I don't think they can go all the way. But
I don't know how where I put them right. So
I look at this schedule and in viewing it, there
are very few gimmes on this schedule, if any, if any, Right,
you know, this is not an easy schedule by any stretch.

(24:34):
It's not the end of the season as bad as
it is is not like last year's end of season, right,
It is not that kind of a gauntlet.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
No Christmas game, no Thanksgiving games.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
I'm very bad, you know. No holiday games. I'm glad
about that. Well for that, and no December thirty first game.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Thursday game that is on the road, so you know
you're not trying to come out for that. I might
go just because it's about an hour ish from my place,
really easy to get to. Depends on what the ticket's like,
depends if the Bengals are they a team Like last
year they were giving them away because they had to
win everything after they lost to the Steelers and like
there were a loss away from making the playoffs. It's

(25:13):
like seven games, right, and their fan base was just like,
but they gave up on them, like as they do.
They're very fair weather there. Defy anybody to tell me
otherwise that Cincinnati is not Ohio state territory versus Bengals territory.
It is most certainly Buckeye territory.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Right.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Cam Hayward was on I don't remember which show.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
It might have been his podcast, It might have been
one of the things with Ryan Clark, but he was
on there and he said the biggest team in Ohio
is the Ohio State Buckeyes.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Right, it's it's big. They're bigger than the Browns. They're
bigger than the Bengals.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
And as an Ohio native, and you live in Ohio,
as an Ohio native, I can. I'm just telling you
that's the facts.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Jack.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, And I know people, I know people will forever
be like oh, it's like, I don't I don't broadcast
them all how born and raised. But you know, I
used to live five minutes from the Pennsylvania state line.
Like I could ride my bike over it. It was
actually kind of cool. The marker was right on the corner,
like an intersection. It was rural. It's kind of neat
reminiscing here. But okay, I went through. The Browns. They

(26:16):
have maybe more gimmes and they we're gonna get into
the Bengals in the Ravens schedules here wait.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Stop there, yep, yeah, the Browns. Is it even possible
to say the Browns have a gimme? The Browns are
the gimme?

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Right. Look, I don't know how good they're gonna be.
I just don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
But they got seventeen quarterbacks and they don't know which
one starting.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
We'll see, you know what valid points. You know, I'm
always trolling them. The reason I say i'd say, I'm
saying more gimmes because there I think there's more question
marks as to the teams they're playing. You know, they've
got okay Bengals, Ravens, Packers, Lions, Vikings, Steelers, those are
all tough. Then you got the Dolphins at home, they
got the Patriots. I don't know what the Patriots look like.

(26:58):
A bye week, they go to the Jets. Back at
home with the Ravens go to the Raiders. Don't know
who the Raiders are. Forty nine ers I believe will
bounce back in a big way this year, provided they're healthy.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Right.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Titans, they're still kind of a quag buyer. Bears, I'm
not sure if Ben Johnson turns them around that it's
bill Steelers Bengals, So they have a chunk in the
middle of that schedule where things could get interesting if
they figure stuff out. I don't know that it's necessarily
the same way with the other teams in the AFC North.
We start with the Bengals. They're in Cleveland. The Bengals

(27:35):
are not a very good team to start the season.
Either host Jacksonville. Then they got to go to Minnesota
and Denver back to back games two they're both playoff teams.
Monday night. For Denver, they host Detroit four o'clock at home,
go to Green Bay for a four o'clock window before
they come to Pittsburgh for the and host for the

(27:56):
Thursday night game. So the one thing that is favorable
here for the Steelers is they didn't just give them
a bye week, you know, ahead of the Thursday night
game or something like that, or they weren't playing at home.
They do have some travel. They do have a difficult opponent. However,
I can't say that about the rematch. With the home
and home series. As we go through this, they host
the Jets one o'clock, they host the Bears one o'clock,
They get a bye week, and then visit the Steelers

(28:18):
fresh off of bye. That's going to prove to be
a little difficult for the Steelers. I think they're going
to especially a fresh Joe Burrow. Now, like the Ravens,
they have two Thursday night games. So by virtue of
the Browns not having any I guess the Browns are
like Oprah. Here you can have our Thursday night game.
Everybody can have a Thursday night game. So, as mentioned,

(28:39):
the bye week to visit the Steelers, they host the Patriots,
then another short week Thursday Night at Baltimore, so that
doesn't do them a lot of favors. Then they get
a little bit of a mini buye before going to Buffalo.
They host the Ravens again. That's brutal man a Thursday
in Baltimore. MANI bye because of the Thursday game, the

(29:00):
short week against the Ravens, then the Bills, then the
Ravens again before they go to Miami December twenty first
and then a two be determined with the Arizona Cardinals.
They finished the season at home, back to back home
games Cardinals and then Cleveland Browns. But Man, going to
Miami after you have that slugfest with the Ravens too,

(29:21):
players can be vomiting. Like the change in climate after
playing a December fourteenth game in Baltimore and then going
down to Miami. We've seen it many times. Teams just
kind of they're sluggish. They're sluggish in that heat. Although
I will say this much and we know, it doesn't matter.
Maybe December it will. It was hot for a Sunday
night football game in Miami when we were there, I

(29:42):
was sweating, was a sweat and just standing there sitting
there watching, right, But that one is a primetime game also,
so maybe that will help them at kind of cope
a little bit with the conditions there in Florida, Southern Florida. Now,
we took look at the Baltimore Ravens and I'm going
to try. I think I got this as large as

(30:05):
I can maybe make it. They start with Sunday Night
Football rate out the gate they have. They're away at
Buffalo on the road. Week two at home against the Browns,
another home game but Monday Night football against the Lions,
and then travel to Kansas City. That's a pretty tough

(30:25):
slate of four games, but you add into that that
they then have the Texans and the Rams rate after that.
Now those are home games too, so they have four
of their first six games at home. Two of those
games are in prime time. It's a pretty tough start

(30:46):
to the schedule for them, other than they have the
benefit of playing in Baltimore before Week seven.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
By here's what I want to go back to at that,
go back to that. Look weeks five seven, four straight
weeks at home.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Well it's the bye week in the middle too, so
they have children by Yeah, I looked at that and
I said, well, do you want to do them any
more favors? Well, they go from the Bears to playing
Thursday night in Miami. It's like, why do the Stealers
always have to play an AFC North opponent on Thursday nights?
Now they're going to have to when they get the

(31:19):
Bengals for Thanksgiving? Right, and they go to Miami. Same
thing we were just saying about the Bengals little warmer
because it's like October, it's definitely gonna be warmer, and
it will be in December, but still warmer than what
it is in Maryland. And the Mini Bie. They then
they go to Minnesota and then Cleveland, so then they
get three on the road, although they get a bye

(31:39):
week home game, and then Thursday night with the Mini Bie,
they get a little bit of build in cushion there.
It's just like really, so they get the Vikings, they
get the Browns, and then do you see what else
transpires here? They have the Jets at home, the Bengals
at home for Thanksgiving, so that's a short week and

(31:59):
then many by before another home game against the Steelers.
So they have multiple, multiple three game they have two
of them, even though there's some Thursdays in there. Come on, man.
Then they go to the Bengals host the Patriots, and
then they have two road games to finish Green Bay

(32:21):
and Pittsburgh. So that's a little tough sledding at the
very end. And December twenty first in New England, who
knows what that could look like too. So there's a
little bit of mix a good and bad, some positive,
but the Ravens have some very beneficial breaks. But Brian,
let's look at them like we talked about, just like
the Steelers, and the Steelers could be zero and three.

(32:42):
I know a lot of people have the Ravens. You
know they have them. What do you want to say,
peg to be Super Bowl contender? Fair enough to say, right,
super Bowl contender? Definitely a playoff contender, a playoff team,
and bring this a little bigger on the screen so
you could get them all in here. And they got

(33:04):
the Bills Browns divisional game, and the Browns have had
the Ravens numbers even in their worst years, the Lions
and then the Chiefs and Texans and Rams like, we
could very well be looking at people questioning who the
Baltimore Ravens are by the time they get to their
bye week. That's a very tough schedule.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
A beautiful six weeks of Ravens losses. Wouldn't that be beautiful?
Oh and six? Don't I don't think there's any way
they go oh and six, But it's a beautiful thing
to think.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Of, right, it would be beautiful. Here's the problem.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
The Rams are a good team, right, I think the
Rams are a good team. I think the Rams could
potentially beat the Ravens, but they probably won't because it's
in Baltimore, the Lions. They have Lions in Baltimore. Yes, yeah,
that's that's It's like the fact that they get some
of these tougher teams at home is a benefit. Like
the Ravens, all they'll play up. They probably lose to

(34:02):
the Chiefs in Kansas City, so you know, I don't
think they get they go through that unscathed, whether they
go through it all losses, I mean opening up at
the bills, that's they could easily lose that game.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
I mean, it's early in the season. That's one of
those you know, extended preseasons.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
You don't know who the hell is going to show up,
and you don't know what's what's going to happen, but
you know opening up there as and you're right, the
Browns have had an uncanny ability to limit the Ravens
because it's you know, it's a familiarity thing, right, they
know the Ravens just like we know the Ravens, and
you know, you play to your strengths. So they've had
they've had that ability to win one of those games,

(34:39):
whether it'll be the one in Baltimore, probably not.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
And just quickly looking at the Steelers. As part of
the TV schedule, depending on where you're located, if you're
using the old Rabbit ears the antenna, most of the
games are CBS games. What the exception of course at
the prime time games, the week two opener will be
on Fox, the game that's in Dublin, NFL network in

(35:04):
NFL pluce and then let me see prime video for
the Thursday game with the Bengals, as has been customary
the two Sunday night games, it gets the Packers and
then the Chargers weeks eight and ten, those are on NBC,
those you know, national broadcasts, et cetera, also Peacock and
then I think everything else other than the Monday Night

(35:24):
game in Miami at least for now, are the Monday
Night game. Obviously, ESPN and ABC simulcast. Everything else is
a CBS game, So I mean, that's pretty beneficial if
that's you know, the Steelers are your local team, if
you're trying to watch it at home, if you're worried
about having to subscribe to all of these different services
in order to get whatever. If you have Prime, you're

(35:46):
pretty much locked in there for the one that's the Thursday.
You might have to jump on and get NFL Plus
or if you have a cable provider or whatever it
has NFL Network, then you're already set for the week
for Ireland game, unless you're unless you're gonna go Laddie,
which we don't know yet.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
I'm my lean is yes, just because I've been wanting
to go back to Ireland forever.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
But we'll see, We'll see.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yep, we shall see, my friend, is that the one
you're most looking forward to as far as I mean,
if you go, obviously, but as far as just as
a spectator, whether you're there or whether you're not. Is
that the one that stands out to you on the schedule.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Uh, it does from the standpoint of it being an event, right,
it being an event football. We talked about this once before,
you know, they Cam took his podcast to Ireland. They
were in Ireland did their podcast, you know, not just
football with Cam Heyward and whoever that other guy is
that he knows and home forever, and then you know,

(36:46):
they talked about they talked to the guy that is, like,
are you gonna play Renegade?

Speaker 3 (36:49):
And they're like, oh, yeah, We're gonna play Renegade.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
So it's like just the idea of being there in
this group of fans who probably almost never get to
see the team, right. I just can't imagine what that
atmosphere is going to be like. So I'm looking if
I go, certainly it's what I'm looking forward to. If
I don't go against the Vikings, that's not an event game.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
I mean, we don't know, like JJ McCarthy or what
if Aaron Rodgers signs there, which I keep saying, I
don't know if he even plays this year.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I mean, I'm over.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
I'm really I am really inclined to believe he simply
isn't gonna play anymore, Right, That's what I'm inclined to
believe at this point.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
I know people are like, no, no, no, you watch,
he's gonna show up.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
You know, they had to show the Steelers are going
to go in six because you know, Mason Rudolph is
gonna stink and they're not gonna do any good could be,
could happen, But you know, I'm not depending on Aaron
Rodgers to come in and save the season.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
I don't really care if this season gets saved.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
So yeah, I hear you. With all of that, there's
still some fun ones, fun venues I'm taking. I'm looking
at a from the Ireland game and for staying in
the States, Detroit looks pretty cool to me, man, I
you know, December twenty first in a dome, that seems fun.
I don't know like that. You know, if the Lions
have a season like they did last year, it's been

(38:13):
a hot, hot, hot ticket. But that Week ten in
LA with the Chargers, do they have fans that care?
I don't know that they do, and maybe yet another
takeover there. It's so fi the newer stadiums though. Man,
so Fi the Allegiant, you know, Death Star. It's in Vegas. Expensive, Man,
it's been. It's it's rough. It's some rough pricing. So

(38:37):
I'll have to keep I'll keep a watchful eye on that.
I always think about, like the different trips in places
I could go. I maybe burned out on traveling by
week sixteen. If the Steelers are a three win game,
you know, if they're playing Will Howard and it's his
like first start in the NFL, it might be cool
to watch, but I'm not gonna go there and watch
Dan Campbell's team lay fifty autumn. That's if they could

(38:57):
still do it without Ben Johnson is there. We don't
know so, but That's where I'm at with it. It's
the same thought processes. You know, Picket went down, Trubisky
was starting an Indy and I'm just like, I'm not
touching this with a forty foot stick.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Ain't no way, dude.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
When I priced the Chargers tickets or the Rams tickets
the last time they went to LA, that was as
much as my entire season ticket package for one game.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
It's wid I forget it. I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, it's wild. That's the same thing. You know, I
was telling my fiance here is you know some of
these games you go to, some of these places. I mean,
my wrestling fans, my WWE fans can relate to this.
WrestleMania was just there at the Raiders Stadium too, And
then those bleeds up there were like six hundred dollars.
I'm like, you know, the the floor seats were like

(39:44):
in the thousands, and I'm like, I'm just like, man,
some of them ten thousand dollars. Dude, depends how close
you want to be at a ring. And I'm just
like that that stadium just has such a price tag
on it. They got to pay for it some way.
This you know, state of the art, multi billion dollars stadium.
I could just imagine, like if the Browns do what
they're wanting to do when they move to brook Park,

(40:05):
the suburb just right outside of the city limits, which
then they have to get you know, they had the
Art Modell rule. They can't move out of the city
all that, so they have to bend some rules and
break them in order to do it. But there's some
property out there, it's you know, closer over to the
airport side of town, and they want to build like
a two billion dollar facility. And I just think to myself, like, Okay,
you go and do that. Are your fans going to

(40:28):
put up with paying raiders prices or rams prices like
to finance this kind of a stadium. I don't see
that in Northeast Ohio. I just I don't. I don't
see that happening.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
So it feels like it just feels premature for the
Browns to be building a new stadium. I mean, the
only been back in the league for one a week.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Ninety nine. But from what all the Hymn hauing for
those who don't know, is that the stadium was rushed,
poorly constructed this and that they've done renovations to it
and then they all have some sketches and renderings to
like add a plaza around it. I mean they've kind
of shut down the street that cuts through on game
days anyway, so like they've already got eliminated some of

(41:10):
that where the Burke Airport and the parking and some
of that was over on that side of it, Like
they're trying to redevelop that area. There's a whole big
long like city council story of that, but then they
don't want If the Browns leave there, it's like, you know,
a lot of that downtown business is not going to
be around either. I don't think all the places you
could go drink, party, watch games because it's people obviously

(41:32):
probably tailgate and then go watch it on TV and
stuff too, But it's always been a parking mess there.
I just I don't see it. It's just so expensive.
And by the same token, I'm already thinking ahead to
just a little bit of bonus content here. I'm thinking
ahead to the twenty twenty six NFL Draft in Pittsburgh.
I have no idea that I want to attend that
I was.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
I'm in. I'm in. Oh my goodness, no question.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Do you have a room booked already? You're gonna have
to walk because I can't imagine you're gonna need the
pea bag that you strap like around your ankle, like
the Times Square deal when you want to go there
when the ball drops for New Year's because why, you're
gonna lose your spot. It's like being at the rail
contole bladder control for how long you're either gonna be
dehydrated and pass out or you're gonna you're gonna pitch

(42:15):
your pants like I don't know what you like. I
don't think in between.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
That's what my friend.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Oh, you're just gonna sit in it.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
They're gonna sit there and wallow in my urine.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
No, no, no, they've got they've got these No, no,
they got they got these things that are like like
almost like a catheter type thing, and and it works
for men or women. We do have some ladies that
watch the show too. They're designed the same way. You know,
they're on Amazon or whatever. And you you you run
the string or whatever the tube down and you put
a pouch or a sack like around your ankle or something.

(42:49):
Or now in the summer or if it's good, whether
people are gonna see your piss sack as you're walking
around Pittsburgh down there, I don't know what it's all bout.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Here having a conversation about how to pee ourselves.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
What has happened to us?

Speaker 2 (43:08):
I'm thinking about the people who go to concerts and
are along the rail like Pearl Jams in Pittsburgh for
the weekend, and all the people that want to get
into the general mission, get into the pit, be right
along the rail and you're standing there for hours at
a time, and if you're by yourself, there's no one
to save your spot unless you're buttied up with someone.
And I'm thinking about this with the Draft, It's like,
how close do you have to be to be? You know,

(43:29):
there's all the VIP that they give out anyways to
like the fans and all this and that that win
these lotteries and they get to sit there in the
nice little VIP slots and everything else. But when you're
further back, I mean, there was two hundred and fifty
some three hundred thousand people in Detroit that had that
plaza full. I picture where they're placing this down in Pittsburgh.
And you know, the reason I'm bringing all this up

(43:50):
is just tied about Cleveland and how you know, their landlocked.
The parking situation for games and getting traffic and getting
out of there is it sucks. It sucks just as
much for Pittsburgh. Now shut everything down and put a
giant stage and try and cram three hundred thousand people
down there on any any of those given days for
the Draft. It's gonna be wild. So as much as
I would love to attend, I may or may not

(44:11):
be there. Maybe I'll go for one of the days
and skip the others.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Just I only am. My tention is to be there
on Thursday night. That's it.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Then I'm going home. Yeah, okay, well that's fair enough.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
So got a lot of travel plans here, folks that
we've been talking about. Don't forget to like, comment and
subscribe to the show. Hope you enjoyed it. Let us
know your thoughts on the NFL schedule. I think we
thoroughly covered it as best we can. What'scam Brian? Thanks
for joining us. You've got some lozenges or cough drops
or whatever. You did well?

Speaker 3 (44:44):
My friend, I got.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
To go back to the for the two percenters here.
So normally when we do the schedule show, we end
it by giving the way too early predictions for when
you know, win's loss, and last year we were pretty close,
even early into the schedule, we were pretty close. Mm hmmm,
we we we we gotta. We got our butts handed
to us at the end. We expected them to win

(45:06):
a couple of those games and they didn't.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
So we're gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
We can't, I mean, I mean, we don't necessarily we'll
do this again in August. We got a better idea win.
The team is way too early version, way too early.
Jets win. Yeah, I'll go with that. Okay, So we're
want to know, uh, Seahawks at home West Coast team?

(45:31):
Uh darnold. Yeah, give me a w there too, I'll
take it.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
I I am gonna go if.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
I'm going to say that is a season opener disappointment
and we're one and one.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Oh, Brian disappointing me here. I'm gonna try and track
these by the way, So Brian's got okay, So week one,
all right, Brian does not have a victory. I'm going
three and oh I'm going on the Patriots too.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Now I don't I'm go ahead.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
I don't necessarily believe my bullshit here, but I mean,
they drop one of these, the Seahawks one. I feel
kind of like, I don't know, it could be really sloppy.
So I might be with you. What do you think
about the Patriots?

Speaker 1 (46:18):
I don't have a ton of optimism in Drake May,
but what do I know? So I'm gonna go. If
it was at home, i'd go win. I'm iffy because
it's on the road, but I'll the promise. I'm gonna
have them win the game in Ireland, so I'm gonna
have them lose this game.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
So they're one and two.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Now, okay, you know that's fair enough. I think that's
where I'm gonna put them too, because I don't know
about this Ireland game. I'm gonna do it opposite. They
probably have them losing against Minnesota. Minnesota is gonna have
They're gonna be very entrenched there since they're there for
like two three weeks. They're gonna have a base of operations,
everything else. They're they're fourteen win team. Now does JJ

(47:02):
McCarthy take them wherever? That's the only question mark. But
I think when you're talking about JJ McCarthy and the
team that's around him versus right now it's Mason Rudolf,
I don't know. I don't know, So I think the
Vikings might be more talented there.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
They could easily go oh in all these yes, if
it's just you know, status quo. But I'm gonna look
at this as as as the Rooney game and motions
are going to be super hyped. I think the crowd
is going to be unbelievably partisan towards the Steelers in
to a ridiculous fashion. So I'm gonna have them winning

(47:36):
the Island game. Plus, if I'm going to freaking Ireland
to watch this game, they damn well better win. So right,
So two and two, let's.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Keep them going. I don't have them losing it.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
They lose, they lose on the fifth week, so they
lose to Bye.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
They're gonna beat They're gonna beat the Browns. They have
a bye weekos coming back from London.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Three and two. I agree.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Week seven lost to the Bengal Thursday night h Packers
at home Sunday night football. That's gonna be interesting. I
don't know who they are by then, I'm gonna say
the Packers probably get them coolts. I think they could
be cool. Four and four I'm with you so far.
I'm counting. Let's see Chargers. Oh, I might have to

(48:20):
come back to that one. That's on the road. It
is a night game. It's West Coast on the road.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
It's a night game. It's a hard travel but a
takeover game. It's a hardball game.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
I'm gonna give them the win because they tend to
play well in front of the home crowd that shows
up for the Steelers, allright, five and now.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Well I'll get you in a second. Here. Let me
see the Bengals at home. I think they got a
trade games with the Bengals have to Bears. I think
they got the Bears Bills. I don't feel confident about that,
especially the Bill will have it figured out. But then
there are another slow starter, usually Ravens in Baltimore. Nope,

(49:04):
I don't like that either. Dolphins at home. I do
like that one. Lions on the road probably not lost,
Browns in Cleveland win. Maybe a coin flip. You got
them with Baltimore at home too, depends if Baltimore sitting
people by this point at the end of the year. Okay,
all right, so we almost have everything the same. I've

(49:28):
got them down for ten and you actually have them
down for eleven. I was gonna spit ball at say ten.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
I have How do I have them down for? Wait?
Go back, I need to count this again. How the
hell do I have them down for eleven wins?

Speaker 2 (49:39):
All right, you got them for the Jets the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
No, I'm losing the Jets game.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Oh you're losing the Jets game. Okay, so you're at
ten wins?

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Then Oh no, maybe I did.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Maybe I said they were going to win that game,
so win, win, lose, lose, win, So I have them at.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Two and two.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Okay, okay, so you did not have them for the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Right on October twelfth. I have him beating the Browns
at home. So now they're three and two. Lose to
the Bengals, lose to the Packers. That makes them what
three and five?

Speaker 2 (50:13):
I don't know, dude, but I don't we're.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Getting I don't believe.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
I don't believe we're getting deep.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
We're getting deep in the weeds with this one. We're
gonna let it go. But he just said, you don't.
You don't believe you have them with ten wins, is
what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
I'm thinking nine is what I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Okay, nine wins? Uh, still five hundred. So Tomlin's winning
seasons aren't as in jeopardy as we would think, right.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
I do think it's nine wins and they miss the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
That's possibility. We'll look at more of that as we
take a look at the other teams around the AFC
and AFC North. I think we'll do a little maybe
way too early predictions on the next show, definitely, maybe
a little more than this and try and get a
couple you know, we may have a rapp it or
two up our sleeve. We'll see, we'll see if we
get more news. Don't forget to like, comment and subscribe,

(51:07):
let us know your thoughts on the schedule and any
other thoughts, any other things you would like to see
us discuss here on the show. Until next time. That's
my buddy, mister Briany Roach. Like I said, man, the
cough drops or whatever you had that was working out
pretty good. So thanks for I know you're not your
voice is yeah, your voice is dead, but it still

(51:30):
worked out. So till next time, folks. My name is Joe,
his name is Brian. We encourage everyone out there too.
It's till next time. Encourage everyone out there to be safe,
be good, and we'll catch you later. We would like
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