Steelers stand pat and select Iowa RB Kaleb Johnson

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Underground, The steel City Underground, the black
and gold standard for Pittsburgh Steelers coverage. Now here's your hoes.
Joe Kuzma and Brian E.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Rose.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of the steel
City Underground podcast. My name is Joe Kuzma, joining me
here for yet another special twenty twenty five NFL Draft
Show A one and the Only Mister Brian E. Roach
Brian these later nights one hundred some picks Roger Goodell

(00:40):
saying that draft's got to move a little bit faster.
I think we agree. It's also a lot easier where
they're not printing jerseys, having people come on the stage
and handing the hats where they look in the mirror
and everything.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
So what is Lieutenant Murtasse I'm too old for this crap?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Or like he's like not something else? Or are lethal
weapon fans? We're starting to get dated there now. It
used to be a very very known reference. So we're
here with the Steelers pretty much standing pat at this point,
third round, just pick eighty three, and everybody says it's
got to be you know, taking Shador Sanders here or quarterback,

(01:19):
And no, they didn't and you and I are on
we've got this like as as a symbiosis, you know,
like the venom thing where he like latches on and
we've got the same brain working together or what. Because
I know we didn't necessarily mock Caleb Johnson to the
Pittsburgh Steelers, but we had a pretty good idea about
defensive line and running back. And you were like so

(01:42):
vehemently opposed about using a using either of the two
picks that they had, or trading back in for a quarterback.
We're on the paulse buddy, you gotta be feeling good
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, I'm I feel I feel like I can't complain
at all, right, I mean I wanted to run back
with the next picks. I'll tell you, I'm surprised. I'm
surprised that nothing else happened, right, that they didn't manage
to get back in the second round, that they didn't
you know, move somebody not mentioning who or do something.

(02:19):
But that doesn't mean they didn't try, right, that doesn't
yet they didn't try And so you know what that
what that really tells you is, Okay, here's the offense
is now is gonna be said? You're going to You're
going to go to war with the guys you've got
At this point, I don't see them this was the
this was the night if they were going to trade pickings,
this was the night they were going to do it.

(02:40):
I don't see them making that move at this point
now at all, because you're not going to trade him
for less than a second round pick in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, I wouldn't either. We talked about, well,
how about both of the Iowa state wide receivers going
to the Houston Texans, Like that's crazy, And I was
talking about, like I was already saying earlier. I was like,
you know what, I'm like, I read about Noel, I
read about Higgins. I'm like, I get both confused. You
want to get even more confused to have them both
go to the same team. So I've kind of happy

(03:11):
for that. It's kind of like last year it was
like everybody was named Wilson. It was like Wilson, Peyton, Wilson, Russell, Wilson, Roman, Wilson.
Too many Wilson's in the neighborhood. But yeah, Steelers didn't
move back into the second round. Palell, and I'm okay
with that. Either got Derek Metcalf. Derek Metcalf is your
second round pick essentially. And you saw some of the
moves that the other teams made or didn't make in

(03:34):
you know, day two of the draft. Here a lot
of picks that there wasn't anything I'm like highly jealous of.
To be completely honest, that would even be like the
Cleveland Browns who started the day just going around the
division a little bit. Okay, you got Carson Schweisinger, the
UCLA linebacker, That's who they went with at thirty three.
My buddy was pretty pissed off man because Nick amnna

(03:56):
Wari is sitting right there. He said, day we need
you know, some secondary health, need a safety. You throw
another dude out there like that, and that's like, that's trouble.
I'm like looking at that, like, oh my goodness. You
know they just went and got Mason Graham and they're
making the moves they made and get the extra draft picks,
and aman of Warri goes two picks later to Seahawks
before the Browns could get back on the clock, and

(04:16):
then Quinn Shawn Jenkins from Ohio State, and I'm like, okay, okay,
I don't even know that he's the better of the
two Ohio State running backs. We're both buck guys.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
I really wanted Travon Henderson, but then two picks later
he's gone to the New England Patriots. But you know,
I'm not the kind of you know how I am
with the Cleveland Browns decent drafts so far, I'm not
going to be you know, throw too much shade at them.
It's kind of hard to miss too much when you
have picks thirty three and thirty six overall to pair

(04:46):
with your first rounders. So the other I guess surprises
that Tyler Shug goes to the Saints fortieth overall, and
I was like, whoa, And there's a guy with some
injury history, but he's singing the ball round didn't throw
a lot of inner, which is kind of the you know,
they should have find print below because it was like, oh,
has it thrown more than five interceptions in you know,

(05:07):
however many college seasons, four or five college seasons, but
maybe it was six interceptions. But there was also like,
what are two of those seasons where he only played
like a handful of games to begin with, so he
wasn't always available and I guess, you know, that's kind
of one of those red flags when you have a
lot of the traits, but you have an agury history,
people are gonna avoid you. And we saw that happen

(05:28):
with several other players like Will Johnson. Another thing that
was surfacing, Yeah, yeah, something surfacing. So there's some noise
out there. You were talking about George Pickens. I'll bring
that up in a second, because there's something on the
show we did earlier today about the first round and
Derek Carmon. Two things that we didn't mention. So one

(05:48):
this came out either probably around the time that we
just dropped the show, right and they're talking. Somebody said
that he had an MRI. He had like a shoulder issue.
It's going to require it's like a torn labor his
seasons in Jeopardy and man, something about that. Just like
I was just like, that's just a bunch of bs,
because I don't think the Steelers or anybody gets anywhere

(06:09):
near him. They had him in for a visit, he
had to have passed all of his medicals, physicals and
stuff like that. So also speaking on harmon his mother
passing away, but being there, you know, you know, in
the hospital, you know, prayers out to him. But she
hung in there and was there long enough. Bittersweet to

(06:32):
you know, realize her son's dream of making it to
the National Football League and making it as a first
round pick. So you know, obviously prayers out to him.
That's that, that's not an easy situation. Is at both
the happiest and probably sadest time of his life simultaneously.
So very tough, very tough. It's even tough to talk
about that. I get a little choked up over here.

(06:53):
So the other one, Brian, is somebody somebody out there.
I don't know who it was, but it's one of
these NFL insiders. George Pickens not following the Steelers on
Instagram anymore. And that was the headline like last October
or something when everyone looked at it then and Justin

(07:14):
Fields was being replaced by Russell Wilson, and they thought
he was protesting and you know, wanted freed, free me
from Pittsburgh or whatever. I don't know if he's ever
followed the Pittsburgh Steelers. So everyone with the smoke around
George Pickett's being traded, that was just nonsense to me.
And you know, Obviously, he's in the last year of

(07:35):
his deal. He's gonna probably want paid. We're probably gonna
have a little bit of a circus around that if
he decides to sit out of camp or hold in
or whatever the players are gonna do these days, and
they never know, maybe he'll get a bag because they're
not paying anybody right now at the quarterback position, so
they have money to spread around for the next few seasons.
So that was another one I wanted to get out

(07:57):
there because I we were talking earlier, forgot the mention it.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Right, And you know, I don't agree with you on that.
I do think they shopped Pickens in the sense of
they took the place. Yeah, I absolutely believe that if
they'd gotten value, he'd have been shipped off. But that's
the thing is, I don't think they could get the
value they wanted. And you know they had to do
it on a day like today where you find somebody

(08:21):
who was going to be wide receiver, desperate and wanted
to wanted to trade for Pickens. Apparently nobody did because
remember we talked about it earlier, where the answer was,
is there anybody better than George Pickens that was left
in the draft, and we didn't think the answer was yes.
So you know, if you have that opportunity, It's kind

(08:42):
of like the Steelers getting DK Metcalf for a second
round pick. If they could have gotten it back, I
think they would have gotten it back. But what I
think happened is they got calls, and they got low
ball calls, and they did not get the value that
they expected to get and it wasn't worth doing. So,
you know, I but I do think that there was

(09:02):
there was real potential for him to be gone.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, And I you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't argue that.
I'm sure that people. I'm sure they call on several players.
I'm sure there's been calls on t J Watt too.
To be completely honest, I mean.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I'm sure again the same problem, not gonna get the
value you expect to get on t J. Watty. You know,
like I played this whole hypothetical game with a friend
of mine, which was, you know, could could TJ be shopped?
Could TJ be traded? Well, anybody can be traded. Is
it possible if some team offered you two first round

(09:43):
picks for t J. Watt at this stage in his career,
with you know, his contract expiring or running up, and
and you're you're on the stet of where you now
have to pay him, probably an exorbitant amount of money
because of where the market is going. Maybe maybe you
could have done it, but nobody's gonna do that. That's like,

(10:03):
you know, to do it, it would have to be ridiculous.
I mean, and the Steelers have tradition, right, The Steelers
like to protect They like guys who are one Jersey guys,
right that this is the you know, Cam you know
is going to be one of those guys. Troy was
one of those guys. Ben was one of the you know,
they only played for the Steelers. That's the only place

(10:25):
they ever played. They don't want TJ to go anywhere else.
But you know who knows, I don't. I don't think
there was any serious consideration of that.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
No, no, no, And you don't want to make any
position worse by trading that away. So yeah, Brian, it
would have to be something maybe ridiculous, as you said,
maybe like the Travis Hunter trade specifically, maybe even not
for George Pickens, but better than that, maybe, yeah, better
better than that. When it comes to t J. Watt

(10:56):
but for Pickens, again, you're not gonna make one position
weaker for the sake, Then who's your other starting wide receivers,
who's your other guy opposite Metcalf? Then you just have
the same problems that you had before. So I know
a lot of people are sitting there thinking wondering when's
the quarterback gonna come and they looked at everybody, like
everybody that's pretty much in this draft. I mean, Jaylen

(11:18):
Milroe went to the Seattle Seahawks, so somebody, I think
before the draft is over, but Art Rudy, how about
Art Rudy coming out on Steelers Nation Radio before we
get to the Caleb Johnson selection here and telling everyone
basically expects Aaron Rodgers to sign and anybody they draft
would be sitting for a year. And it's like, well,
of course they're gonna sit for a year because you're

(11:39):
talking about getting somebody that's outside of like the top
one hundred picks. So it's kind of the captain obvious
move there. If anything, you know what, I'm gonna have
to look at this, but I think even Mason Rudolph
might have been within the top one hundred. If I'm
not mistaken, So he wasn't gonna start.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Because whatever I said, that was a wasted pick when
we did it too.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, of course you did, of course you did. He
was seventy six.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
I was on Ben's side there, I was on Ben's side.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Fifty six seventy six. Hey, it was somebody. And that
was a draft where five people went in the first
round much much what should have been a brighter or
look to at least appeared to be brighter prospects at
the time. And I know Darnold's turn it around, Mayfield's
turned it around, Rosen's spin turning it to other teams.

(12:27):
Every time he wakes up on the other side of
a pillow, he doesn't know where he's at, what city
might be playing in. But you got Josh Allen and
Lamar Jackson too, the guys that were neck connected for
MVP in there. So it's like maybe somebody miss scouted
or whatever. But you know these teams, even Melroe going
late and Sanders slide and everything like that, there's thirty

(12:48):
two teams in the league that are pretty much making
these same kind of decisions. Do they get it wrong sometimes, absolutely,
But it's kind of hard to be wrong. That many
times over so so and that asd I mean, could
the Steelers be wrong, sure, but what helps now? And
we said defensive line, That's what we said in the
earlier and Derek Harmon and you got an almost thirty

(13:10):
six year old are soon to be thirty six in May.
Cameron Hayward. We know he's a leader of the team, captain,
you know, all time Steelers great. I mean, he surpassed
James Harrison's sack record and that is just so quietly
kind of swept under the rug when it comes longevity.
So you needed like another pick in order to help
your team right now. And I think that the Steelers

(13:33):
were were going there and not being you know, quarterback
desperate maybe. I mean some of the teams that are
taking to quarterbacks Seahawks, is that a real insurance policy
behind Sam Darnold, I don't know. And then Dylan Gabriel
to the Cleveland Browns. What a room that's going to be.
That's gonna be fun with what Kenny Pickett and Joe Flacco, Oh, get.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Joe Flacco, Dylan Gabriel and you know massage therapist guy.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Oh, you know, I almost completely forgot about him because
all bets are off. I mean, I'm would be completely serious.
I've written Watson off, even though he hasn't written himself
off and said he's gonna come back better than ever
or whatever be the case in twenty twenty five. I
don't know that he's gonna be back in twenty twenty five.
I think they were already that ship sailed. They're just
gonna keep paying the bills to mail it out, mail

(14:24):
it out his checks. But the quarterback rib that really
gets me though, is like Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston and
Jackson Dart. It's an interesting, interesting room with some guys
that have some like overlapid skills. Right, Rooney talking about
this stuff just most recently about where they're drafting and
Aaron Rodgers and stuff. The one thing that really stuck

(14:44):
with me, Brian was in the offseason about two months ago,
he had said he would like the quarterback room to
have quarterbacks. They're a similar style, and I mean, Mason
Rudolph doesn't really run a whole lot. Aaron Rodgers probably
isn't capable of running a whole lot if he ends
up coming aboard, So you probably shouldn't expect a very
mobile quarterback to you know, be put into this mix.

(15:07):
So not surprised. No, and I'm not surprised the Steelers
went somewhere else. Let's talk about the pick and maybe
some direction they could go with the rest of the draft,
because there's not a whole lot of picks left. Obviously
a quarterback would still be ideal for the Steelers to get,
but they don't have there's not a whole lot a

(15:28):
whole lot of picks left for them. They've got fourth rounder,
they got one twenty three, fifth rounder, one fifty six,
sixth round or what eighty five, and then seventh round
two twenty nine, which is you know, almost at the
complete bottom. I'm gonna have to look and see how
many picks there were overall in this draft. Who's mister
irrelevant this year? Uh, it's not your twenty nine two
to fifty seven?

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Will it? Will it be your dur Sanders.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Mister irrel, He's already the mister irrelevant regardless of where
it goes, because it replies that he's been.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
In consensus consensus experts draft knicks. That's the number two quarterback.
Guess what NFL GMS went.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
No, you're dumb and you're wrong, Daniel Jeremiah had him
twentieth overall. I'm sure mel Kuiper, you know, mel Kiper
once said to Jimmy claus and he was going to
bet his job on that guy being like having a
Hall of Fame career in the National Football League, and
that didn't materialize so well. With enough of mocking the drafts,
is the actual draft unfold still? But I say the

(16:31):
same thing like some people were saying, like, you know,
the Sanders thing, it's hate that people some people are
rooting for him to like, you know, slide or fall
or wherever. It is. For me, it's just an exercise
of you know, the draft Twitter where they have one
hundred guys with the first round grade and you can
only have thirty two players selected in the first round,
and you have that you have this crap every year.

(16:52):
So I'll give you an example, Darius Alexander. It was
like where was he going to go? I was mocking him.
I think I put him in one of my mocks,
like third round, and he went at the top of
the third round. So it was like almost like you know,
you get a sense or a feel for some of it.
I'm not trying to be the smartest guy in the room.
But there's some people who kind of ignore if somebody's
from like the mac from Toledo not playing against big

(17:15):
ten or sec or twenty five years old as a
rookie coming into the National Football League, like those are
very all real things. A lot of the guys with
the injury history, like Will Johnson, for example, finally going
to the Cardinals. So Caleb Johnson no relation. I'm intrigued,
I will say that much. Because we were talking, we

(17:38):
were texting back and forth. We were taking a look
at the pre draft visitors that were still on the board.
After Travon Henderson went and you saw R. J. Harvey.
He ended up going to Denver, the Denver Broncos. I
got a good friend that's a that it's a Broncos fan,
and he goes, oh, man, I really wanted the guy

(17:59):
from Iowa. And I said, well, I hope that he
ends up landing in Pittsburgh because I think he would
be a pretty good fit. I actually thought that Dylan
Sampson from Tennessee might have been on their radar two,
but Harvey was and there was still you know, we
said Jayden Blue out of Texas maybe a little bit
later on Ollie Gordon Oklahoma State. They obviously had Omari

(18:20):
and Hampton and Trevon Henderson, and they had about like
eight running backs that were in for pre draft visits.
So Johnson fits that bill. Another big ten, big time player,
and boy did he pop off the page last year.
Two hundred and forty carries for fifteen hundred and thirty
seven yards, twenty one rushing touchdowns, and added about another

(18:44):
nearly two hundred yards receiving with two receiving touchdowns. He's
a load to bring down. He's a nice north south runner.
And guess what Steelers needed, some somebody that could get
north and south and get that you know, short third
and short or fourth and one type of distance.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I'm just look, the way the draft has gone so far,
to me, fits exactly with with my evil plans. Right,
build positions of needs, stock up on quality players, and
then make some hay next year. And that's that's this
is exactly what I would have wanted for them to do.
Drafting on the line, fill out the running back position,

(19:24):
don't do something dumb, and don't expend capital that you
don't need to expend. So right now, it's falling right
the way you'd want it, and and things. You know,
there's still plenty of guys on the board. If they
want to pick a developmental quarterback, they're going to be
able to pick a developmental quarterback. If they want to
add some other pieces for depth, they're going to be

(19:47):
able to. So it's going it's going exactly exactly as
I had planned. Exciting, excellent, excellent, excellent.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Johnson, Okay, you get to see the guy a little
bit more like as we're watching some big ten football team,
that's going to be very happy. Our managing editor here, ooh,
a big Iowa fan, so she was not expecting him
to be around at eighty three. We were texting a
little bit and I said, I think that's the guy
six foot even to twenty five Pro Football Focus they

(20:22):
gave him. He's just a shy of twenty two years
of age. They had a lot of good They had
a lot of good things to say about him other
than his past protection. They said, what lowered a lot
of his grades because they said he's hit a home
run in impressive ninety seven point nine PFF game athleticism
score in twenty twenty four. I mean they don't give
many grades up in the nineties for a lot of

(20:44):
things right, And when you look at all of his
body of work, he doesn't have like the load of
carries of like a Jonathan Taylor, for example, when he
came out of college. So coming out of Wisconsin, maybe
he won't have the same kind of like wear and tear,
won't be expected to necessarily carry the entire load either

(21:07):
as a third round pick. But I think he's gonna
get a nice a nice split with Jalen Warren. You
don't have to worry about the pass protection right now
because he's got one of the best in the game
that just pops linebackers constantly to try and come in
Jayleen Warren. Jalen Warren is like a mighty mouse. He
doesn't realize he's the size he is when he's up
against some of these linebackers and defensive linemen that are

(21:29):
on the opposition. So I'm not as concerned unless Warren
where to go down now, I have less concerns. This
fills depth, This fills a nice role. He was tied
nineteenth for miss tackles forced with sixty six. He had
one thousand and sixty yards after contact, which was sixth.

(21:51):
According to Pro Football Focus, he was third in a
nation with carries of fifteen plus yards. That was did
I say third? He had twenty eight of those runs.
He was third overall in the nation. Sorry if I
said that incorrectly. Only two drops. He didn't have a
whole lot. Again when it comes to in the passing game.

(22:12):
But they have his elusive rating at a one thirty
one point five, very much so elite traits of his
rushing grades, his gap grades, his zone grades, his yards
after contact four point four to two. All of these
grades were pro from Pro Football Focus. Are they speak

(22:32):
to an elite level college back? Kind of kind of
odd that he slid where he slid because I probably
would have. I definitely liked him over so the guys
I was talking about, like Samson and Harvey and I
just maybe not Henderson. So especially, you know, you got
guys like Buck. Guys are in the you know, the
Heisman conversation, whereas you know a Hawkeye isn't. So yeah,

(22:57):
go back.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
To the numbers that you said, fifteen hundred and thirty
seven in the yards, twenty one touchdowns, and he did
that with the an offense that was like one thirtieth
in the nation, a fairly low fanked ranked offense. Cale
Johnson was essentially Iowa's offense is the way that reads
to me. So, you know, I can't complain about the

(23:20):
pick at all. I think he's a guy that's got
a lot of potentially, He's got a lot of upside.
He runs a little high, but he's a tough guy.
He's big, he's strong, you know, and and hey, well
I think he'll be maybe a little more elusive than
Nag he was. Maybe has a little more speed than

(23:42):
Naji did. Maybe is just as tough as Nag he was.
We'll have to wait and see about that.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
That was one of the comments I think on the
NFL network he got Charles Davis, who he belt it
out of Bruno Sam Martino line earlier when you had
seth Rollins from wwe do the Bears pick and I have,
I was rolling about that. I'm like, Okay, in one
calendar year we have Charles Davis talking about the Eagles

(24:08):
and then talking about brutos se Artito. So I thought
that was funny. But between him between the you know,
rich Isisen's kind of just leading you know, the show.
There so he's got his whole opinion. But it was
him or Jeremiah that was talking about four or five
seven speed and said that Johnson does not play to
that speed, which someone considers slow. You can't get I mean,

(24:30):
Naji was pretty much plotting around as it was.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Nage was good.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
At protecting the football and when it came to yards
after contact as well.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
So this is.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
I like the fit here. This would be good for
the offense. Whoever ends up playing as the quarterback you
got Now you're gonna have at least two, if not
three running back options. Who knows, if they still don't
add somebody in free agency, they'd have to find out
where they fit in. But you still got you know,
like JK. Dobbins or you know Nick Chubb, guys that
have had some serious injury history that are still sitting

(25:02):
out there as free agents. And there's a few others also.
But we'll be talking about the rest of the pick
of the litter here, but that's another topic for another time.
Of course, we're talking right now just Steelers. They stay
put one pick Day two, Caleb Johnson should be a
good zone run scheme fit for Arthur Smith. What did

(25:23):
they do on day three, you got to expect a
quarterback in which Schador Sanders sliding completely out of this thing.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
It kind of reminds me.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
I mean, even Dak Prescott went in the fourth round,
but that was like maybe there was some buzz, somebody
put the bug in her ear, Like the one guy
that was oh Man, the mineman from Lyle Collins that
went to the Cowboys, and you know, he went completely
undrafted because there's these things that leak and try to

(25:52):
deter other teams from making these picks. So, I mean,
that's pretty crazy, man, to see how many quarterbacks have
already gone and everybody, what was that thing you had
from Colin Coward? Do you still have that up by
any chance?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
In January, Colin Coward says I would trade TJ Wytt,
George Pickens and two first rounders for the opportunity to
move up and go get Shador Sanders if you think
he's a started quarterback. This is this is more proof
that Colin Coward is just dumb. He's just dumb. He's

(26:25):
consistently dumb. His takes are dumb, and the commercials his
stupid advertisements that say, oh, well, you know you're always
mad at me when I'm right. I'm never mad at you,
because you're never right. You're You're worse than Philippony.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Oh Man, Philippony. At least he's just the local guy, though,
you know what I mean. And that begs the question, though, Brian,
you get around here the fourth round and the Pittsburgh
Steelers are on the clock, which number is this coming
up here? Three is still out there?

Speaker 2 (27:01):
He kicked. I got no arguments at this point. Yeah. Look,
here's the thing. Any of the quarterbacks you're going to
take in the fourth round, which is from the get go,
when I said I'm okay with you drafting a quarterback
fourth round? Why because I didn't think there were any
great quarterbacks in this draft to begin with. And if
you're gonna draft somebody to become your next Mason Rudolph,

(27:25):
fourth round is pretty good place to start doing that.
Do I think Sear Sanders is the best option still available?
I don't know if I I don't know if I
think that, But do I would I have a problem
if the Steelers decided that's where they're going to go
in the fourth round. Nope. At this point, I'm like,
you do what you want, and I don't care because

(27:45):
you know, Omar calls me all the time. He wants
to check in on these things. He's like, look, you know,
we know you're always right, so tell us what to do.
So you know that's why they did what they did.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, most of the pre draft visitors have been exhausted
from this list unless they double dip defensive line for example,
or I think john Way, Yeah, I think Josh Farmer
from Florida State still hanging around there.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Yeah, Black from Iowa, I don't believe was picked anywhere.
Trying to see what other names might still be among
the pre draft visitors. There was Harrison Hunt, Jared Harrison
Hunt from SMU. So these are some names to maybe
look for as far as the visitors and they need
help on that defensive line. JJ Peguis from Ole, Miss.

(28:35):
Elijah Roberts another guy. It was pegged as kind of
like a an edge rusher, but that would be in
a four to three, four to three defensive end. I
think he would play pretty much the same kind of
role of like a Cam Hayward Kano Benton three four
defensive tackle. He's more of that kind of mold. He
might have to put just a little extracise on him,

(28:56):
but he's pretty much there already. I'm trying to see
at about I mean, a lot of the other positions
you're not They're not even gonna get into. Some of
these wide receivers, the guys that they brought in, like
Jayden Higgins or Saveon Williams, they're already gone as well.
Most I don't think they double dip at running back,
even though I said that would be fun, but they
don't need to. So it's gonna be a quarterback. And

(29:18):
if it's fourth round Shador Sanders, I don't have a
problem for a guy who completed seventy four percent of
his passes four hundred and thirty forty one hundred thirty
four yards, thirty seven touchdowns to ten interceptions and getting
that player in the fourth round. I think a lot
that's going against them too is, you know, just the
two years at Colorado and then what he was at
like Jackson State or whatever too. So I think some

(29:41):
of it is what do you have played somewhere else?
What do you have done some of these other things.
If he didn't have Travis Hunter, if his father wasn't
the head coach, and I think he's got some trust me.
I'm sure Dion has a lot to do with this too, right,
Maybe rub some people the wrong way and some people
are just like, nope, I'm not gonna touch with a
forty foot stick. So but we know Mike Tomlin, and

(30:03):
we know Mike Tomlin can keep some egos in check.
And boy, I joked about it yesterday or earlier today,
if they ended up with Aaron Rodgers and Store Sanders
in the same quarterback room, look out, George Pickens, dk Metcalf,
that's could be some fun times or it's gonna be
not so fun to watch watching it burn down from uh,

(30:24):
you know, it's the house on fire.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Me this is fine.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
So but Brian, that'll do it for us. Keep Hard
Knocks away from that completely. Please you need to sarcasm
side somewhere.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I do.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
That's not sarcasm for the hard knocks.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
But please please Hard Knocks call immediately.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
All right, my friend, But then the man ours. We've
got one more day of the draft, but we'll come
back around and talk about all the picks and all
the happenings here on probably earlier next week, maybe Monday,
and we'll see what happens we'll see what we get
back on reconvene. Thank you once again for joining me,
my friend, Steelers Nation. One more day in the books

(31:08):
and then it becomes a very dead news period. But
stick around with us as you get our thoughts on
the full Steelers draft classes. Omar Khan has some more
con artistry up his sleeve, we will find out. Don't
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