What’s next for the Pittsburgh Steelers?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Underground, The steel City Underground, the black
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Joe Kuzma and Brian E. Rose.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of the steels
City Underground podcast. My name is Joe Kuzma, and I'm
here with my good buddy, colleague and friend a one,
mister Briany Roach. As we approached the first podcast of
the off season, Brian, which do it over there, my friend.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I'm trying to see into the future to figure out
what's next for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I've got my looking
into the future light on.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, you know what I was I was looking. I
was looking to get one of those like head lay up.
Those are very handy for working on just about any
four Oh, I have a ton of a but there
used to be a lot cheaper. Like I went on Amazon,
I was going to get some of those as a gift,
and they wanted like a small fortune for just like
one of them, like twelve or fifteen bucks. I'm like,
are you serious, Like these are like like dollar Tree.

(01:12):
Oh yeah, I'm telling you, well.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
For fifteen bucks, these are like ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
What's ninety What are you doing there?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Construction work or lumens for hiking and okay outside and
crap like that.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
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Speaker 3 (04:21):
So since they moved it and it's now you know,
really in the off season, does that mean the bye
week lasts until like a lie and then it's like
just a part I mean, isn't that the way it
is in Florida anyway? It's just a party constantly, and
that's all. Maybe that's just I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, you know what the funny thing is. I was
in that area around this same time last year the
Royal Rumble was in Saint Pete at the Tampa Bay
Rays Stadium Tropicana Field, which was had the whole It's
not really a dome, it's almost like it. It has
like a tarpover. It's kind of it's an older, kind
of dated stadium.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
People in that.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Area they're asking for a new one, you know, for
the major League Baseball team, and I don't know what
you got. Well, like the roof got like ripped off
in the Hurricanes. So but hey, it was nice to
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sure is all you gonna do that anywhere.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Around an event where a bunch of kings and queens like.

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Just oh geez, it's the w w wee.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Man.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I know that's not your thing. You don't like coffee
or the weirdo. We do have some actual stuff to
talk about as the NFL off season begins here with us,
with the Pittsburgh Steelers and around the most of the
NFL where you see some of the coaching hires and stuff.
We saw some of the surprises. What do you think, Brian,
I mean, we got you got your conference championships? Was

(05:35):
there a surprise? Washington? Washington Command, Washington Command, surprise. I
think it's a surprise.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
And pick them everybody didn't pick Washington upset the Lions, no,
of course, and make like a dollar and a half.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, you know what what happened? You get a rookie quarterback,
you get a retread head coach, and another retread is
the offensive coordinator there in Washington. And like everyone predicted,
everyone predicted that this team was going to be, you know,
one step away from the super Bowl, maybe in the
super Bowl. No, that's not how it works at all.
In fact, as ridiculous that some of the folks out there,

(06:09):
especially in some of the comments here, some of the
comments on the website and our social media. Everybody's in
the fire Tomlin camp, of course, I'm going to try
and table most of that conversation but I just want
to I just want to bring up.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Some statistics here.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Do you know how ridiculous it might sound in this
moment right now to say fire Dan Campbell. Would you
do that if you're a Detroit if you're a Detroit Lions,
or if you're a Detroit Lions fan? Are you saying
fire Dan Campbell?

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Well?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Five seasons, No, five seasons as a coach, five seasons
as head coach. He's in the playoffs just twice, right,
and he only has win in one playoff So he
always had one playoff win in five years.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Though.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Isn't that what we're talking about with Mike Tomlin fire
Dan Campbell too?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Well?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
No, but he has win all these winning season. How
about Matt Lafleur, He has one win with the Green
Bay Hackers in the last four seasons.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I fire him. I don't like him.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
That's pretty funny, that's pretty funny. But you see what
my point is though, And he's not the only one.
Kevin O'Connell was a three year three or four. I
gotta look him up real quick too, in his statistics.
But that's the way everybody operates, that's the way everybody's
in the fire now, culture, we did not get the
results that we wanted. Oh but Joe, those guys, those coaches,

(07:27):
Dan Campbell's winning, Matt Lafleur, they're winning. But that's the
same thing we're saying about Tomlin that all he does
is produce winning seasons. But they're not winning seasons unless
you win a super Bowl. How about Jim Harbaugh. Jim
Harbaugh has what could be? It could be Lamar Jackson
could be a three time MVP now right imagine if
he's a three time MVP and he's only one playoff

(07:48):
game in one or two of the seasons that he's
been playing over the last seven years, eight years. Whatever
it is for Lamar Jackson right now, I look him
up too. But I mean, just think about that. We
said Harbaugh was on the hot seat. They finally got
over that hump what two years ago, and finally won
a playoff game with Lamar Jackson, But it had been
a minute, and that seat was getting very hot. They
didn't have winning seasons. You said this in the last

(08:11):
show too, Ravens. They lost Jackson and then they stunk,
and then they were able to acquire some guys like
Kyle Hamilton, Tyler Linderbaum. They got some actual dudes on
this roster, and we said that's what the Steelers might
have to do. But by the way, Kevin O'Connell in
three seasons, two appearances in the postseason with the Vikings,
zero playoff victories. But hey, he's the guru and they

(08:34):
won and everything like that. But I just like to
point that out just for the sake of I mean,
we're all tired of it. People called us and I
quote me and you we are Tomlin ball lickers. I
am not a Tomlin that I'm about a Tomlin ball
lickuor I mean, we pretty much said that we were
pissed off and were tired, and the Steelers got embarrassed
and there's gonna have to be some changes, and people

(08:56):
want those changes at the very top. Try and warn
some of these though that that would be disastrous.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, Between saying things like Mike Tomlin is the greatest
head coach on the face of the planet and everything
he does is wonderful and he walks on water and
that like that, I don't believe we do any of that, right,
There's a difference between saying that and going, let's be realistic.
We know the Runies aren't going to fire Mike Tomlin
right now. Do I think he's a bad coach? No,

(09:23):
I don't think he's a bad coach. Do I think
that there's problems, Yes, I think there are problems. I
mean the article I wrote on SCU essentially says exactly this.
No one should be immune, including Mike Tomlin. We just
know that that's not going to be where the axe falls.
But you know, from my standpoint, personally, I'm not into

(09:46):
the ball licking thing. You know, maybe, like I said,
maybe if it's a snowball and I'm thirsty and that's
my liquid refreshment for the day, then I might lick
the snowball. But that's about it.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, that sure beats anything you could say about peanut butter. So, man,
some people only knew some of the outtakes we have
sometimes on the show. But what's next for the Steelers
obviously not firing Mike Tomlin? I gat, I guess we'll
get a State of the Union or state of the
whatever from Art Rooney to second and he'll talk about

(10:19):
his displeasure and you know the promise that they had
for this team this year, and you know they wanted
to return to running the football and doing some other things.
But they didn't get meet all of those goals. And
right now we're in the middle of you know, all
of this stuff where the Steelers and other teams they're there.

(10:39):
They got to make these decisions pretty quick. Right you
got Dallas Cowboys. They decided not to rehire Mike McCarthy.
Some people are talking about, well, McCarthy did this, McCarthy
did that. The difference between Mike McCarthy and Mike Tomlin
is this, Mike McCarthy can't win if he doesn't have
certain players on the field. He doesn't have MIKEE. Parsons,
he can't win football games. He doesn't have Dak Prescott.
He can't win football game. We didn't have Aaron Rodgers,

(11:01):
he couldn't win football games. Mike Tomlin wins football games
with Landra Jones, with Charlie Batch, with Byron Leftwich, with
Michael Vick Dodges with Duck Hodges, with Mason Rudolph, with
Candy Pickett, with Mitch Trubisky, and so on. In Justin Fields,
I throw him in there too. I put out the shorts.
Go look at them. They're on social media. They're on YouTube.

(11:22):
The comparisons between Mitch Trubisky and his first you know,
forty some games, fifty games in the in the league
versus that of Justin Field's early similar, But so are
their starts with the are their games with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
I had to expand that a little bit. People were
kind of trolling being they're like Justin Fields period in
ten games. Well, I had to say he appeared in

(11:43):
ten games because Mitch Trubisky had like four games where
he threw like fifteen to twenty passes minimum, maybe even more.
But they weren't technically starts. He came in maybe in
a backup role, but he ran for four and I
didn't do his rushing touchdowns. Oh whoop to do? Fields
ran for five, Trubisky ran for four. They were very similar,
So I throw them in in the same You got

(12:03):
to put it in the same kind of category that
Fields does not approven NFL quarterback. And even so, if
you want to say Russ is washed up, to throw
him in the list too. Tomlin won with him. Tomlin
continues to get it done even with a Ben Roethlisberger
that had a bum elbow. That's the difference between him
and someone like Mike McCarthy. But if the Steelers are
going to do something, if it's Art Rooney, if it's

(12:25):
O Marcann, if it's Mike Tomlin, I mean, I don't
know where the decision comes from or what those decisions
are made, or if the decisions made about Mike Tomlin.
Doesn't sound like it. Chicago Bears maybe rumor and another
team rumbored other team speculating on a Tomlin trade and
they were told to go take a hike. Mike Tomlin
even said, don't waste your time. He's under contract. Those

(12:49):
decisions have to be made soon as you see, like
the Bears lining up for Ben Johnson, the Jets lining
up for Aaron Glenn and going after, you know, trying
to copycat do whatever the rest of the league is doing.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
There. You know, there's not going to be any head
coach changes in Pittsburgh. The head coach is going to
be the head coach. That doesn't mean there's not going
to be coaching changes. I think it's probably unlikely that
Arthur Smith goes simply because he's only one year removed
from being a head coach, and I don't know that
he did enough to really warrant a ton of interest,
even though he may get some looks. So I think
Arthur Smith probably stays. But I do think Terrell Austin

(13:25):
may have coordinated his last day of coordinating the coordination
of the defense.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Well, he would be one of mine on the list
to go along with Pat Meyer the offensive line. They
could make some other changes. Oh yes, I like Zach
Cazini as the wide receivers coach, but you see, like
what some other receivers are doing around the league. I
don't know if that's quite one hundred percent fixed. Does
he get another year? Does he get a pass because
of some of the talent. So what's next for the

(13:53):
Steelers There? Obviously acquiring talent, you'll have free agency in
the draft, but just sticking on the side of the
coaching thing for a second. Mark Cabally said this actually
in its week two and he kind of nailed it.
He was like, what's with the league? What's with the NFL?
And always just wanting to hire coordinators from whatever team
just like had some wins, you know what I mean,
because we've seen it oh countless times again, even like

(14:16):
I know everyone wants to talk about Tomlin's Tomlin's tree
or whatever, and it's like, yeah, who cares about that
because right now, when you're rebuilding, you don't have like
losing seasons, but you don't have the biggest winning seasons.
Nobody's poaching your coaches. But at the same time you
have to improve and do stuff. Now, some people are
sniffing around with Arthur Smith. I've seen it clickbaited. It
was like, oh, Bears passed on Arthur Smith. Well, duh,

(14:39):
I mean they got to do a number of different candidates,
and the Steelers have made him available for these interviews
and you see that happen around the league too, where
you know there's some obvious ones that pop up, just
sad to say for the Rooney Roll factor, but some
of those guys do end up getting highed too. So
I'm not gonna say it's only for that reason, but
you see it, and you see Smith he's just meeting

(14:59):
maybe a quota for the Bears. So then they could
go out after Ben Johnson, for example, off of the
Lions and within the Division two, which was pretty crazy.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I think.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
But if the Steelers move on from somebody like terror
All Austin, they're gonna have to find somebody that was
just released from somewhere else, or they have to promote
from within, and that's what everybody hates. They're like, oh,
well you promote from then that's terrible. Oh they won't
hire somebody else that will, like you, surp power from
Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
I'm like, that's so ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Mike Tomlin has brought in so many guys that have
been coordinators or head coaches elsewhere over the years, some
with success, some without success. It's just kind of crazy
when you look at it, Like I said, Bill Belichick,
are you gonna say that guys like Bill O'Brien or
Romeo crenell or none of those guys had any success.
And even go back to Bill Kauer, Dom Capers didn't

(15:50):
have the most success. These guys have losing records. Chan
Gaily and Dick Lebou had a very short stint as
a head coach and it just didn't work out. And
for the most part, even some of the recent guys
from the Chiefs, they're not leaving there. Specknola's not trying
to leave from that. He's got a cushy job as
defensive coordinator. Eric b Enemy tried to leave out of

(16:11):
the shadow of Andy Reid, and everybody usually finds out
the reason those Andy Reid teams do well is because
of Andy Reid. And I think there's that same kind
of label maybe with Mike Tomlin, although nobody's reaching to
go try and get like a Matt Canada or Randy
Fickner when they go, but they tried to They tried
to maintain the status quo. The biggest thing I have though,
is I saw this and people were you know, we

(16:33):
mentioned Jim Harball as part of this, but it was
like Lamar Jackson can't get over to hump Lamar Jackson.
Like I don't think Lamar Jackson lost that game for
the Ravens. If anything, they were in it because of
Lamar Jackson. But he also had some turnovers, so you know,
you can't throw picks and everything. At the same time,
when people want to complain about Mike Tomlin, when does
some of that fall on the quarterbacks that he had,

(16:55):
namely Ben Roethlisberger for a period of that time, with
his turnovers and in the interceptions and whatnot in some
of those games. How does some of that fall on
some of the players. So you've got to give in
a you've got to take on some of this. Where
does it fall on the players? Where does it fall
on the coaching? I think you're right, Brian. I think

(17:15):
I look at the defensive coordinator. I also look at
the offensive line, because even though they don't have the
maybe the talent that they expected to have there, there
really hasn't been any kind of progression here in years.
And in order for the quarterbacks to have any even
like a modicum of success, you got to get the
You got to do something with the offensive line. And

(17:36):
I think part of that is coaching. A big part
of that is coaching.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah, I mean, you know another thing that's it goes
along with it. You just don't know what you have
still with the offensive line. You know, as we were
talking earlier, Zach Frazier gets voted to the rookie team,
which is great, and I think Zach had a great
rookie season and I think he was a consistent, highly
performing set right, But everything else is I mean, everything

(18:04):
is a question mark with the offensive line. They were
not good at pass pro, they were not good at
communicating with each other, and they had essentially a stable
unit for the majority of the season, even though it
wasn't the guys they initially anticipated having. I get it.
Roderick Jones is playing out of position. Dan Moore has
his ups and his downs, you know, and McCormick wasn't

(18:28):
the guy you really wanted in the position he was in. So,
you know, but you you kind of expect, even under
those circumstances, to see growth over the period of the season,
and that that you can attribute directly to coaching. And
they did not get better as the season went on.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Oh and I mean there was consistency, but there's a
fourth round rookie gonna do it. In some cases they
can and some they don't. I mean, you see, you
know some of the coaching things. I go back to
the Ravens, right, Daniel Flelight that weighs like three hundred
and eighty pounds, and we were talking about him in
the pre draft process. They bring him in, they make
him a guard and you can't move him around. That

(19:10):
helps Roger Rosengarden, the rookie that's right next to him.
Also helps TJ. Watt ban Art. But you know, and
the way their offense is designed that goes along with it.
I think that's why Some people were on against Arthur
Smith because a lot of the things that happened in
the red zone you didn't have the identity with running
the football the passing game. There were things that improved
and then there were things that didn't. There were things

(19:32):
in certain situations that work. This team struggled to gain
a yard third and one, fourth and one. We saw
it multiple times. It was almost like bewildering to watch
Jalen Warren not be able to get that yard. It
gets the it gets the Ravens and just to go
down and it was like he was sitting on top
of the defense. He thought he was sitting on top

(19:53):
of the defender, but his posterior went and his ass
hit the ground and you're like, well he's down there.
It's like you just you can't. It was just like
you couldn't beg Borrow or steel. But when we talk
about some of the other moves that might need to
be made, what other are there any other coaches on
this staff? We kind of went over it before, but
I tend to think, you know, quarterbacks coach Tom Arth,

(20:15):
do we really know anything about him?

Speaker 3 (20:17):
No, we don't.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
We could speculate about Arthur Smith, could he be one
and done, and it doesn't sound like he will unless
he gets hired somewhere else. Who do the Steelers go
out and grab. Will it be any better or worse
than what they have right now? Kind of hard to
envision being any worse. Year or two of a coordinators
usually better, mind you, if you have the same court,
one of the same quarterbacks in place. We'll talk about
that in a second, too. Wide receivers coach. We kind

(20:40):
of mentioned running backs coach Eddie Faulkner, and you still
have a consultant with Mike Sullivan, who's got a lot
of experience with quarterbacks, with offensive coordinators and stuff like that.
They didn't want to put him in that position, but
the Steelers ripped off a lot of points in three
straight wins with Mason Rudolph at the end of the
previous season to get into the postseason. So I mean

(21:01):
some of that staff I think I keep in place.
Alfredo Roberts with the tight ends is the other one
I didn't mention.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, I am not overly impressed with the tight end performance.
I will say that, But I don't know that they're
going to make a change of coach, you know. I
think the big question marks are really at the top
of the offensive line tree and the defense as a whole,
the coordinator position and the offensive line coach. Those are

(21:28):
really two areas that you can just go and pinpoint
and say that seemed to be lacking leadership. Yeah, and
I think like the next thing you got to think
about is the big gaping hole personnel wise. We thought
this team maybe was something that they weren't and maybe
Mike Tomlin did get a lot out of this offense

(21:49):
in there, they're not there. I mean, this isn't killer
be territory. And he had a lot of success with
them regular season success because he had them in the postseason,
he did not We've mentioned this a bunch of times
at Jaguars game where they don't have Ryan Shazier and
Ben throws some interceptions, they don't move to get the ball,
they don't move it on fourth down. Todd Haley becomes
the scapegoat there ultimately, because they finally had Martevos, Bryant,

(22:12):
Antonio Brown, Big Ben, and Le'Veon Bell. They had him
all on the field at the same time, and then
the defense lays an egg and gives up you know,
forty some points. Some of that, you know, because of
the short fields, because of the turnovers that they gave
to the Jaguars, But they had an offense that also
scored forty some points at the same time. You don't
have that anymore when Ab left, I mean Juju to

(22:32):
a lesser extent, because Juju he had some injury problems.
He wasn't always like a guy that was going to
play a full season, right and then we found out
that maybe he wasn't a wide receiver one. Maybe it
was because he didn't have the other guy that attracted
some attention. We were looking for that all off season.
Omar Khan was never able to fully pry someone away
from another team, and you finally get Mike Williams. For

(22:53):
whatever reason, maybe the Jets knew something we didn't when
they went and got Devonte Adams and traded Williams away.
Maybe they just felt the guy just didn't have it anymore.
You know, we always talk about that age. He's right
there at third age thirty one thirty two where these
guys drop off. Calvin Austen, he's the guy that could
jump in. You never had Roman Wilson, who they drafted,
So the areas that you're looking at. With some of

(23:14):
the skill players, I think it might still be some
of the same issues that they'll need to look at
as they headed to the offseason. You got to find
somebody alongside George Pickens. And I say that alongside George
Pickens because I think there's a lot of nonsense out
there about training George Pickens.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
When you need a wide receiver too, and you're saying
that you need this wide receiver threat, and you needed
to replace the Antonio Brown. You need to do all
of these different things. Right, are you getting rid of
the best guy that you have on that side of
the field? Like, are you getting rid of the best
receiver you have? I don't think he's easily replaced.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
I'm going to go on the opposite contention of you
on this. I think it's realistically reasonable to shop George
Pickens because of the immaturity issues, because it's the last
year of his rookie contract, because he may not be
the guy you want long term. Right, And they can
find receivers. They've proven one of the things they're good

(24:11):
at is finding receivers. Right. I'm not saying they must
trade George Pickens. I'm saying if somebody's going to offer
them capital that is worthwhile and is going to help
them improve the team, he is absolutely not off limits.
That's what I'm gonna say. Now. That was my next
question was there.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
I don't think they're getting picked thirty two overall from
another team like they did with Chase Claypool if they
moved from If they were to move.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
George, really really dumb.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
I mean, we've seen the bearris. The Bears are sniffing
for a coach. Somebody's talking about all these things. I
had a little shorter reel out there about the Colin
Coward thing, trade Pickens, trade t J. Watt. Of course,
get rid of your best player on both sides of
the football, and then two first round picks so they
can move up and get Shador Sanders.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Which I don't want. Why would you want Senor Sanders?
Give me a break.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
No, I don't want him. But I don't really think
anybody in this draft that's a quarterback is worth moving
up and handicapping your future drafts.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Now.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Of course, one of those ones is gonna be a swap,
so then you get rid of next year's But who's
gonna do that? That's at the top of this draft
right now, maybe the Titans do go quarterback. I mean
they're not sold on Will Levis and Mason Rudolph as
their guys.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
I wouldn't be necessarily, but oh hey, oh hey, but yeah, come,
I mean, come on, dude.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
I mean it's like, but not you as dude, but
Colin Coward and saying this in these ridiculous trades, these
are the foundational These are foundational pieces for your team.
You saw what happened when the Browns traded for Deshaun Watson.
They're sitting at pick two. They're not gonna trade with
the Steelers and allow them to get a quarterback. They
need one themselves. You look at some of the other

(25:53):
teams in the top five, like the New York Giants,
they're not gonna make that type of trade either. They
got rid of Daniel Jones, but they got Drew I
don't even know that he's actually under contract for another year.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Tommy.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Defdo like they kept their GM They kept Brian Daball
their head coach because they believe something there. They got
rid of their best players, Saquon Barkley. Look what he's
doing with the Eagles right now. So like you get
rid of Saquon and you know they didn't look at
what the Steelers record is without TJ. Watt, Like, come on,
look what happened when they didn't have George Pickens this year?

(26:24):
And now you're like, we'll just replace them. They'll put
the Superman cape on that is the Steelers jersey and
instantly everything's solved.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Weal, we talked about this. If you're gonna blow it up,
you blow it up, right, If you're gonna blow it up,
and basically say, we anticipate next year we'll be lucky
to win two games or one or maybe not. You're
gonna blow it up. See what you I don't I
don't think you get a first round pick even for TJ. Watt.
I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't think you
do right because he's getting older. You're not getting a

(26:55):
first round pick for George Pickens in a million years.
You're just not nless. Some somebody can really be hoodwinked
by omar Con. So you're not gonna get two more
first round picks, even lower end first round picks. Maybe
for TJ. But remember he's got a big price tag
that's gonna come along with him, and he's getting older. Right,

(27:15):
His production fell off the end of the year. Whether
that's always because of injury or not. The point being,
if you're gonna blow it up, fine blow it up.
But they're not gonna blow They have a core that
they think they can build around, so they're not gonna
blow it up. But I don't know that. I think
George Pickens is part of that core, right, I just don't.
I have I have problems with some of the attitude.

(27:36):
I have problems with diva receivers. You already know that.
And I'm not convinced that he's the long term answer.
And you're not gonna pay him thirty million dollars a
year to come in if he sits out right, what
happens if he's like, I demand an extension, I need
more money. Blob. There's all kinds of reasons that Pickens
could be gone, right.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
He will, but he will, and I don't blame him,
and I don't blame him. And none of those talks
are gonna happen. The Steelers don't do those kind of talks.
Cam Hayward got his extension and Pat frarm Youth got
They both got their extensions in September, like after training
camp and after the preseason, right before week one of
the regular season. I think part of that was con

(28:19):
still trying to keep some money on the side. I
think he really felt they were trying to get Ayuk.
You know, they were that close. Now if they had
gotten Ayuk, I probably agree, because when you move on
from Santonio Holmes, you still have Hines Ward, when you
move on from Artavis Bryant, you still have Antonio Brown,
and then you go and you could add uh, you know,
Juju Smith Schuster was already actually a part of that.

(28:40):
So it's funny too. I remember seeing that with what
Bryant and Sammy Coates on Twitter when they were like, oh,
he's your replacement, He's not your replacement. Yeah, he's yourry replacement.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
But like, here's the thing I do. I've been thinking
about this and I think there are four things that
need fixed right, and I'm gonna name these in order,
but one we've already talked about the offensive line. I
think there's problems with the defensive line right. I don't
think it's deep enough. I don't think it stops the
run well enough, and I don't think it's consistently pressuring
the middle enough. They got bullied, they got pushed around

(29:15):
too often in the last season. And that's the core.
Those two things are the core of your team. If
if you're not built out from there, you're not going
to be a contender. Okay, So those both things need
to be need to be at least patched or the
offensive line needs to be fixed. Whether it can be
fixed in a single season is a question work. But

(29:36):
those two things need to be fixed. The receiver, the
receiver room needs to be fixed. There's not enough threat there.
You know, whether Pickens stays or Pickens goes, just having
George Pickens isn't gonna be enough. You don't know what
you got with Roman, you don't know. And outside of that,
you know, I'm sorry. Calvin Austin has been nice. I
think he's a complimentary piece. He's not a true number two.

(29:57):
He's not scaring people, okay, And like he's a tiny
little man. He's a tiny little man that if he
gets hit, once he goes down, he's not people aren't
you know, He's not gonna tackles. And then then the
the elephant in the room, who's and and the most
important piece. I will say, who's taking the ball? Like
you if you listen to the NFL Drive, the Steelers

(30:20):
NFL Drive stuff, you listen to anybody and not Colin
cowterd Forget him. You know, he's all his commercials where
he's like you're you always saw you were yell at me,
even where I'm like, You're never right, I hate you,
you suck Okay, but look, forget him. But the truth
of the matter is the number one position in all

(30:41):
of sports, the most important position in all of sports,
and especially for sure in football, is the quarterback. Who's
taking the snaps? Who's gonna be your quarterback? Is it Russ?
Is it Justin? Is it neither? Is it one of
the two? That has to be how you how you
move forward and figure out what you're gonna do. I think, Look,

(31:01):
we said this when Ben retired, and I'm gonna say
it again. We need to be ready for some ugly,
bumpy seasons until the quarterback position gets ironed out. Who
was the guy with the Ravens that won a quarterback
that was terrible? Not Joe Flacco, uh.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Trent Dilfer, I believe one with that. They were close
with Elvis gerback too. I want to say that ain't happening.
That might have happened too, flat out doesn't happen anymore.
You're not going to win a Super Bowl with a
Trent Dilfer level quarterback. You need a guy, and they
don't right now. I don't believe they have a guy.
I don't think Russ is a guy anymore. I'm not

(31:42):
sure Justin is ever going to be a guy. He
certainly isn't a guy at the moment. You don't have
that guy. You might stick with Justin Fields and just say,
let's see what happens. You might stick with Russ and
let's see what happens. But I don't you know.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
That's that's where they have to start to think about things.
Who's taking who's taking the snaps, who's going to run
this offense, who's going to fit into what? Whoever the
coordinator is, if it's Arthur Smith. I know we've heard
all the noise about Russ and Arthur Smith didn't get along.
He really preferred Justin Fields. They made it work. Blah
blah blah. We've heard all that.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I know I didn't hear. I didn't hear any of that.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
I think.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
I think, yeah, I think some of that is I'm sorry.
I saw something else just the other day too, and
it wasn't the most reputable platform or outlet that was
putting it out there. There's all these things. Justin Fields
wants to come back, Russ wants to come back, Russ
don't want to come back, Justin Fields don't want to go.
Its just it's all speculative. I have a very hard

(32:43):
time believing so much of that, dude, I really do.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
I don't believe anything I hear, right, That's what I'm saying.
You hear a lot of stuff. I don't believe any
of it. What I what I know is the offensive
line needs to be fixed. The defensive line needs to
be shorn up maybe fixed. They need another corner, and
they absolutely need to fix the wide receiver room they

(33:08):
got to deal with. I mean, the hits just keep
on coming.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Oh yeah, there's quite a bit on.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
They have one running back under contract, you know, essentially
for next year, and he's a restricted free agent. Right
they have to figure out the running back. They don't
know what they have yet. There's a lot of work
that needs to be done going for this team next year,
and I'm just gonna say this. I'm just gonna say
this right now. Second round, our first round pick Buka,

(33:36):
second round pick I don't know, don't care, figure something
else out, third round pick Travon Henderson, fourth round pick
Will Howard. There you go.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
You know, it's kind of funny. I think Brian Bako
of a PG was saying that he goes look for
the Steelers to look at Ohio State. It's like, you mean,
like how the Eagles looked at Georgia or whoever the
national champions were. And Steelers also dipped their toe in
the that team up North Territory. You know, we don't
talk about them. They may or may not still have
a trophy in the case from last season.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
You know, that team that Harbaugh, that other Harbaugh coach
before he Taylor Brand.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
To the NFL.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
No, I'm not talking about them. But that's where Rum
and Wilson came from, some other guys came from. But
you're not wrong, and I probably would look at all
those Ohio State guys seem fine. I think a Booco
will be about like at the top of this list,
though he's a pretty complete player. I don't know if
you get him at twenty one necessarily, but when I

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take the.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Stab, think, I think you can't.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
These wide receiver groups and classes in the draft are
usually pretty pretty deep. The free agency one is not
so deep though, And when you look at it, it's
basically T Higgins if he becomes available, and then you've
got a bunch of older receivers that were once highly
paid guys. You have Stefan Diggs, you have Keenan Allen,

(34:57):
you have Amari Cooper. Chris go Win, who doesn't always
isn't always the shining paradigm of health either. Deontay Johnson
who got idled though, who will probably sign that dude?
DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Williams, Brandon Cooks, Robert Woods, all these
guys are well north of thirty. Even DeMarcus Robinson's thirty

(35:18):
one from the Rams, who you know, kind of broke
out a little bit. There's no guarantee as.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
To some of the do this.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, how old is DK DK's approaching. He was like
twenty eight twenty nine this season.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
I want to think, if you want to stop gap,
maybe you still go after him and you can make
a deal with Seattle. Maybe maybe not, but I mean
that I don't like I don't think there's an answer
in free agency based on I looked at that same
list that you're you're talking about. I don't think there's
an answer in free agency. I don't think there's a
receiver in free agency that's gonna be worth the money

(35:51):
you have to spend on them in free agency. If
they're gonna get a receiver who is a known quantity
outside of the draft, they're gonna have to make a
trade and that becomes a lot more difficult.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
That's why I think Pickens is back, regardless of what
people think about like that people get mad at juju
dancing and playing Fortnite, so like, I really don't want
to hear it. Sometimes Pickens actually won like some sportsmanship
type deal from the NFL or one of these you know,
writing groups or whatever for his playoff game, for the
playoff game against the Ravens. Yeah you want to talk
about random things, you see, you have to see it

(36:24):
to believe it.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
And uh so, yeah, you know what I got. He
didn't get fined.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
He didn't get fined.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
What I'm going to say, crack is whack yo.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, I almost needed dear sarcasm sign but it wasn't sarcasm.
But absolutely you're in the same position as you were
last season. You probably weren't thinking as much defense. You
were still thinking what corner still fixed offensive line, I
on defensive line towards the future. But that wide receiver
room and you're looking at quarterback, and quarterback is going
to dictate the pace for so many things because they

(36:56):
have about forty million dollars projected available before they actually
set the cap, which we won't know for and it
wasn't even until like a week before free agency hit
last year that they actually announced it. They may do
some restructures and whatnot. Your top three highest paid players
t J. Watt, Mcafitzpatrick Cameron Hayward and then top five
Alex high Smith and Patrick Queen is all guys that are,

(37:20):
you know, on the defensive side of the ball. Then
you have Preston Smith, who he's not going to be back.
I wouldn't I wouldn't imagine that was just you know,
they were trying to get this roster prepared to make
a run, and you're making a run with Russell Wilson
and his you know, cheap quarterback contract that you won't
have anymore either. But people thinking that justin fields will
just be cheap. Sometimes you get what you pay for

(37:40):
with either one of these guys, but it's got to
be one of them. And I've been pretty adamant in
saying that I feel fields the ceiling is a backup.
You could talk all you want about mobility. The guy
runs after, he doesn't make any reads. Some of that
is the offensive line, and that also applies to Russell Wilson.
We talked about last offseason, but both of these guys
year where the guy they held onto the ball longer

(38:02):
than anybody before. They weren't making these quick throws. They
weren't finding open receivers. If those receivers even get open,
the identity wasn't there to run the football. Sometimes you
couldn't just get that one yard. So a lot of
the with the quarterback also depends on the offensive line.
It's just that I don't expect much more than the
production you got out of Trubisky or got out of

(38:22):
Kenny Pickett having justin fields there except for okay, he's
going to break the twenty five yard run. When everything
else breaks down, he goes to his feet. It's all
the same criticisms and critiques I had that I didn't
like about Joshua Dobbs, except Fields as a higher pedigree
player coming out of college, he obviously has a hell
of a lot more starts, and I do think of
him a little bit more, but he's still ball security

(38:43):
is still an issue with him at times. And you know,
where were your where were your stars? When did George
Pickens finally score receiving touchdown? Najee Harris get a rushing touchdown?
Like these guys Pat Friremuth, they were largely absent when
Justin Fields was the starter. Russ comes in in. When
Russ had that nice streak six to seven starts, offense

(39:04):
is gaining one hundred plus more yards, they're scoring ten
plus more points per game. Yeah, they're beating up the
Giants or they're you know, the Jets were supposed to
be a contender and they fell apart, But they also
had to win over the commanders, And we just talked
about the commanders. Look where they're at right now, and
dan Quinn in his offense and then it started to
fall apart. So you look at the teams that are
in these conference championships, they have a Josh Allen, you

(39:27):
have a Patrick Mahomes, But Patrick Mahomes, they're winning with defense.
Spagnola's got some guys on the defensive side of the ball,
Dan Quinn, you know they made some savvy signings. They
talked about that they bring Bobby Wagner in there, they
make that trade for Laddermore. You've got some guys on
the other side of the football too with the Eagles
where they make very savvy, all those Georgia guys they

(39:49):
bring in on the defense and the rotations they have.
Jalen Carter blew up this past weekend. You watched it
just live and in real time, just harassing the quarterbacks.
So you can't necessarily just turn a blind eye to
I think it's those trenches. You gotta bring one of
the two guys back, I think, and maybe make a
stab for whatever quarterback might be available. It's not gonna

(40:11):
be a first rounder, it's not gonna be a shirt fire.
This guy's gonna start's probably gonna be development. And you're
rolling with whoever it is, whether it's Wilson or Fields
or twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah, I mean, take a step back look at the
position groups. Let's just start with the Eagles. Eagles versus
the Steelers. Do the Steelers beat them in any single
position group? Maybe maybe outside linebackers, maybe linebacking, but I'm
not even sure one hundred percent across linebacking. They certainly
don't win on the defensive line. They certainly don't win

(40:42):
on the offensive line. Right. Obviously, they're not winning a
runner back running back. They're not winning a quarterback. Maybe
you can make some caveats in some of the defensive backfield,
but not That's about it. They're not winning the receiver room, right,
That's the problem they have. They have so many flaws
right now and so many needs to try and build

(41:03):
a roster that is capable of being a championship roster
that you know, I can understand the feeling of we
got to start over again. I don't think we have
to start over again, but I understand that feeling from
some people and some fans who might say blow it up, right,
And I just don't agree. I think you can find

(41:26):
ways to get better. I think Omar Khan could do
some things. But I do think you're gonna see some
surprising moves. I don't know what they are. You know
that little headlight doesn't actually give me the ability to
see into the future. I don't know what they so
it's not it's unfortunately not so. But I do believe

(41:47):
that there are players on this team that you and
I both will go. I don't think they're gonna I
don't think there's any chance they're gone who will be
gone come next season and will get moved because as
I said, that are the thing they need to do
is they need to look at every single position player,
coach and say are we better with this person or

(42:09):
can we get better? And if we can get better,
go find a way to get better.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, I agree. I think that's where the patience is.
It's definitely thin ice with George Picketts. I don't want
to make it sound like, oh yeah, that guy's a
lot to be back, for sure. I mean, your talent's
only going to get you so far. Before you're shown
the door. You become a problem you aren't doing the
things that you're asked of. I mean, what's next for
the Steelers. They have to figure out who the quarterback is.

(42:33):
Do you bring one or both of these guys back?
And what does it cost you relativity to what you
just said, which guys stay, which guys go. I know
everybody thinks I'm crazy. I don't think this team was
half bad with Russell Wilson. I think a lot of
the problems are the same thing that Russ had problems with.
It is the end of his tenure with Seattle. He

(42:54):
wasn't protected at all. Dude was getting sacked a ton,
whereas Field still takes a lot of sacks too for
being such a more He's more of a at this
stage of their careers. Russ isn't as athletic as he
once was. Right, he's not running away from people like
Fields will. There's no denying that. But I also don't
believe the Fields is just gonna run around and become
Lamar Jackson. And part of what Todd Monkin did with

(43:17):
Jackson he got his ass to stay in the pocket.
He's still got the best pocket passer, But when he
extends plays or he's able to run, who's gonna catch him?
He's you know, he's a top tier athlete. He's one
of a kind, really one of a kind. You're not
gonna find two of a kind their fields, I think.
But if you have to look.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
At him like Lamar, you look at him and watch
some of the plays that he makes.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Or Allan throw him in there too.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Well, even Josh, Josh, it's different. Josh's power. Lamar is
grace right, like it's he feels like he's moving like
Neo sometimes. Right, you can't imagine how he just does
this weird little side step and all of a sudden,
whoever it was is just spaked out of their complete shoes, right,
and they and he gets away. His elusivity if that's

(44:03):
even a word, well, Megan is absurd, right, Josh just
beats you up, right, Josh just goes you're not you know.
That's why I liked Josh Allen and wanted them to
draft Josh Allen back in the day, was because he
reminds me of Ben when Ben was young, right, but
more athletic and more with a better running ability than

(44:24):
Ben had. But he just powers people, right, So I
mean they are different that But at the same time,
you do sit there and go, how's he doing that? Right?
They just don't have that guy. And No, Justin Fields
is not that guy. I mean trying to say Justin Fields,
because he's a mobile quarterback, is going to be like Lamar, No,
that's that's like saying I'm gonna be like, you know, justin.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Fields, Yeah, I mean fields, he gets those running yards.
But again, how much of it's by design Jackson gets?
He gets a lot of his by design, or has
in the past. A lot of those were designed runs.
I mean, you look at the College football National Championship
last night, Will Howard designed runs. Those are design runs,
a lot of them with Fields when they brought him
in later, Sure you want to know why the Steelers

(45:06):
were winning those games with Fields at quarterback. It wasn't
Fields at quarterback. It was the defense, and the defense
did a lot, and then Wilson also helped compliment. I
think if they were able to move the ball a
little bit more and use your playmakers such as fire
me such as pickings such as Najie Harris, when Fields
was in there, you probably don't lose to the Colts
and or the Cowboys. You probably have a better record,

(45:27):
You probably have a home playoff game. Maybe it's all
a different story. Maybe the Ravens crumble under the pressure
playing at Akroschuer Stadium. That's why I don't have a problem.
People think I'm crazy. I don't have a problem I'm
still cautiously optimistic. I know where the floor is with
Russell Wilson. He's still not could go out there like
a Joe Burrow and throw for three, four or five

(45:47):
touchdowns in a game. He also doesn't have the personnell
to do that type of thing. He's really not that
guy that's gonna throw for three and four hundred yards.
But he is a guy that used to be in
the league MVP type of conversations. I don't think that.
I don't think there's a lot of suitors out there
for either one of these quarterbacks. That's why the possibility
of them returning. We mentioned the teams at the top
of the draft. The Raiders I think are sitting there

(46:09):
at six two. They need to do something. Would they
maybe go for a Fields or go for a Russell Wilson.
I mean they've got a whole regime changed there again
too so, but just to put a kind of a
bow on this, for the Steelers, they do need to
figure out who that. They need to figure out their
quarterback sooner and later. I think it's at least one
of these two guys, or you run it back with
both if you don't feel that you can get somebody
in the draft. Mike Tomlin was quoted as saying Jalen

(46:33):
Hurts wasn't a first round draft pick. You know, Lamar
got picked picked thirty two. It's not impossible to find
somebody in the top fifty and not be in the
top ten when you get them. But the gamble is
historic draft classes, though, Yeah, there's some of that packed
with quarterbacks. Lamar was the fi quarterback taken, you know exactly, and.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
You know, just look at the other quarterbacks that were
taken as well. It was a packed draft class. You're
not very rarely, is it? Is it something that is
that historically strong at that position? And next year or
this year twenty twenty five, ain't it twenty twenty six
in Pittsburgh? Right, aren't we hosting the draft in twenty

(47:16):
twenty six?

Speaker 2 (47:17):
It's set up storybook style, isn't it. Then they get
their first round quarterback and that's the Cinderella story right there.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
That's so so, you know, there is part of a
storyline here that says, blow it the hell up, because
what would be better than having the draft in Pittsburgh
and having the Steelers have the number one pick. Well,
they're not going to do that.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
No, because they got Cam Hey, they got Cam Hayward,
you got TJ. Watt, you still got Micka Fitzpatrick, you
got Mike Tomlin under contract. You still feel that you
could win with these guys. They are among the best,
if not the best, or elites players at their position.
But you're not getting the amount of sacks that the
Steelers got over the last few seasons. They're not in
the same category as when Keith Butler just cut these

(47:58):
guys loose and they were you know, they were how
many seasons in a row that they have where they
were the top team with the most secks. It just
it's not happening. The pressure is not getting there in
the same way. That's why I think you've got to
strongly look at the defensive coordinator. Maybe some of the
other defensive assistant coaches too. We didn't really talk about,
but Carl Dunbar I think I'd keep there. Benton, he's

(48:20):
coming around. I think he's a guy Larry Oogajoby making better.
We're gonna talk about who stays and who goes. That's
gonna be our next topic, probably on the next show.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Should I stay or should I go? We need to stay,
steal the class, steal the class song, Like how much
of a clip can we play of a song before
we get in trouble?

Speaker 2 (48:36):
No, no, I don't even think you can get thirty seconds. Man,
It's like, you know, there's nothing there. It's immediate. I
mean there's cold.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
I just go.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Nope, nope, no, it's immediately a lot suit a CND. Man,
if you use that in your own song, there's certain
you know, melodies or certain you know. I'm not the
big music I was never a band or anybody kind
of got, but I know enough that if you sample
enough of like a little bit of a song. Just
go look at Ray Parker, the Ghostbusters theme versus Huey

(49:07):
Louis and the news I Want a New Drug. There's
ones like that where it's just like those lawsuits, all
those lawsuits. Well it's just and it's not the only example.
It's not the it's far from the only example.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Well it's different now now today people just say, yoh, yeah,
I'm sampling that song, and yeah they're still it's okay,
there's still I was sampling the clash when I did that,
So it's the classes song. It's not mine thing.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Oh that wasn't Jaws or Super Mario theme they see
those are very close, but you just make you well
what anyways, that's enough from that for me, folks. I'm
looking We're looking at, you know, various personnel and talent acquisitions.
Who stays, who goes in the next show. So be
sure to like, comment and subscribe and follow us, and

(49:51):
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these shows a little shorter and then come back to
you soon or when there might be some other news,
but there's really not. We're just gonna look forward to
the conference championships. Seven straight for the Kansas City Chiefs. Man,
it really tells you what happens when you get the
right coach in the right quarterback. Took Andy Reid forever
labeled as a choke artist and not labeled that anymore.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Man.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Seven straight conference championships. And I have a dear friend
that was the Kansas City Chiefs friend fan, and I
told that friend the other day, it's got to feel
good because you didn't have a home playoff game since
the Steelers had played there in what like ninety three
or ninety four, when they had Joe Montana and they
were trying to do the same things picking up they
used to pick up all the San Francisco quarterbacks. They
had Steve Bono and they had Elvis Gerback. They had

(50:36):
all these guys that got cast to decide from San
Francisco when they had you know, their starters or whatever
in place. But even San Francisco a little long into
two there. I think Kyle Shanahan a lot of theirs
is injuries obviously, so we're not gonna make all of
those same comparisons. Yeah, I'm pulling for the Bills. I
felt bad for the Lions. It's probably I'd be shocked

(50:58):
if it wasn't the Eagles and Eagles get the host
of the AFC Championship Game. They probably weren't looking at
that when they saw Minnesota with fourteen wins, an alliance
with you know, thirteen fourteen wins.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Those teams are never gonna hear me do the fly
Eagles Fly. No, you're not gonna hear me.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
You're not gonna see me do the go Let's go
Buffalo thing either.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
That just makes me. I'm just gonna say, yeah, just go.
That's my horse in the race now is the bills.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
That's fine and I'm I'm cool with that. So, folks,
if you haven't already, leave us a rating review wherever
you may be watching or listening, let's know, some feedback
on the new format, some topics you might want us
to dig into. And of course we're gonna look at
some bad takes to here in the near future, because
there's a lot of them floating around. Seems like every
day there's there's one in particular, there's a channel that

(51:44):
I see that's out there and they will see say
get rid of George Pickens, or George Pickens will be
back and extend George Pickens. They have like five different
things you could do with George Pickens in five different videos.
It's like, well, which one do you think you would do?
And it's okay to uncover all the bases, but holy cow,
it comes off as clickbait for sure.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
So I only have one more thing to say.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Yeah, oh yeah, we're not we're happy campers on that
Were you a little bit nervous though, just a little
bit nervous.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
A little bit nervous. I wasn't ever really nervous because
I felt like even worst case it's a tie, like
it never was a position where they're gonna go down
and win the game at the end of the game,
and they had to get to two point conversion and
how they gonna get three two point conversions? Like I
wasn't really nervous. It was annoying.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Yeah, But I mean for a lot of people, I'd
be curious to see what the ratings were. I think
people that aren't invested in either Notre Dame or Ohio
State probably tuned out early in the third quarter because
it was you know, you get into the fourth quarter
and then got a little close and then Jeremiah smith Man,
why do you talk about on third down and just
Chip Kelly in that offense? Man he went back to

(52:59):
just being an offensive court or maybe the Steelers can
find a guy like that.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Maybe they can find a guy like that with that's it.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Tank for four, Tank for four. There's a few names
that I like that's out there. We'll talk about those
in the near future. Robert Sala if he doesn't get
a head coaching sniff. By all means, there are people
talking about Mike McCarthy. I said, they're talking about him
replacing Tomlin, and it's like are you nuts? Like you know,
we've got stability in different ways. So and I already

(53:25):
mentioned it, but that'll do it for us today, folks.
My name's Joe, his name's Brian. As we always close
out these shows, uh you know again like comment or subscribe.
Check out Bye Week at the Beach that codes Bye
Week Bye Week at the Beach dot com. That's coming
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So you want to get out of the cold weather,

(53:45):
go check that out too.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Till next time.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
We encourage all Ivians out there too, be safe, be good,
and we'll catch you late. We would like it.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Thank you for listening, and remind our listeners to follow
us on social media and our website www dot Steel
City Underground dot com.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Mm hmm

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