Who’s in, who’s out, and who’s added to the Steelers roster?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Underground, The steel City Underground, the black
and gold standard for Pittsburgh Steelers coverage. Now here's your hoes.
Joe Kuzma and Brian E.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Rose.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of the Steel
City Underground podcast. My name is Joe Kuzma, joined here
by my good colleague Apala one, mister Briany Roach. Brian,
what's going on, my friend?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
You know, just the day to day joy of watching
the season of lies unfold.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I love like, I love that everybody says this now,
like and they should have before, but I think it's
more and more and more accepted by the media to
be like, you know what, we're putting stuff out there.
Some of this stuff is blowney and we don't really know.
But man, the transaction, the transaction wires are just on
fire right now. We're trying to hold off at least

(01:00):
to see the free agent or I should say, the
franchise tags before we dug into some potential free agent targets.
As the legal tampering period, which we said on the
last show, already was happening at the combine. We all
know that it's like you've got all thirty two teams there,
all the personnel, all these players, and it's like, oh yeah,
and then Tom Brady bumped into Matt Stafford at a

(01:21):
ski resort. Yeah, okay, whatever, But yeah, but Monday is
supposed to be the actual day that this transpires. Wednesday,
one week from now, four pm New York Eastern time,
is the official start of the new NFL league year,
so they could start making some announcement. Some of them
will come out like right away, I think noon on Monday,

(01:43):
and you know, we're gonna be sitting there like hold, hold,
hold for some news. So I don't know when we're
actually going to be around next week. He might just
be a bunch of reels next week, which we've been
kind of devoid of because there's not a whole lot
to discuss right now. There's there's some inklings about some
Steelers players that might return, there's some inklings about those
that will not. There's some free agents to look at.

(02:06):
The only two guys tagged. The wide receiver market instantly
goes into dumps, but then again, it's not like a
free for all auction to the highest better for t
Higgins going back to the Bengals twenty six million dollars
right now, Boy, that team they're going to have some
work to do too. As we were saying they had
to get rid of Alex Kappa, he'll be a free agent.
He's a right guard, a very good one, I would say.

(02:27):
But the Joe Burrow effective paying a quarterback top dollar.
Jamar Chase's deal is going to be looming there too.
Trey Hendrickson wants some more money. So within a division,
you know, if the Steelers don't screw this up, they
might find themselves in better footing than we would think.
Browns are sitting there looking at pick two. They're looking
at everyone from Abdul Carter to Schadur Sanders cam Mood.

(02:48):
They're looking at every Travis Hunter. They're overturning every rock.
We're sitting here with the Steelers. And one thing we
know from the past, Kevin Colbert and even Omar Khan
is they like to double dip at some positions. So
this probably isn't the year the Steelers spend a first
round pick on a quarterback, but they're certainly looking at
some They're gonna have to sign somebody if they If

(03:10):
they draft someone, it's gonna be developmental. But right out
the gate, the biggest thing, the biggest item. We don't
want to dominate this whole show with quarterback talk again.
You can go back to all these other ones about
our feelings about Russell Wilson, about Justin Fields. Do you
feel Wilson won't be back? I feel like, you know,
this is just the cat and mouse game that you
play with the agents in the front offices. So Wilson

(03:32):
could be back if Fields is back, you know, so
be it. It's the devil, you know. These are the
best two options, regardless of how I feel about maybe
Justin Fields's ceiling or Russell Wilson and his age or whatever.
They're probably the two best options that the Steelers have
right now because when we look at this quarterback list,
it's in some dire straits, man, and I don't know,

(03:53):
like you know, the Vikings are talking about bringing Sam
Darnald back, but they refuse to tag him Sam Darnald.
He's a beneficiar. You have an offensive mind to coach
Justin Jefferson and you know all that entire offense in
that system. I don't think that Sam Darnold, and we've
seen it where he's been in other places somebody said,
give him a pass on the Jets, and it's like, well,

(04:13):
kind of hard to not get anybody a pass on
the Jets. He did okay with the Panthers, but you
bring him to Pittsburgh and you're gonna pay him, let's say,
thirty five million dollars, there's no guarantee for success there.
I mean, I think that's just thirty five million that's
wasted when you could probably bring back Fields is probably
cheaper than that. Russ is probably in the ballpark of that.
But when you're looking at fifty nine point six million
potential cap room, that's what you got to work with there.

(04:36):
So you go cheaper on the quarterback that you could
win some games with. Either way, I don't know, but
I do like the devil I know, versus the Devil
I don't. Yeah, I mean I told you this before
we went on air.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
As each day goes by, I'm more and more convinced
that option one is Justin Fields, and if any suitor
out there, be it the Jets, be it some other
quarterback team decides to overpay for Justin Fields, that maybe
Russell too, but only if again, somebody like the Raiders

(05:09):
doesn't grab Russell Wilson or Russell Wilson doesn't say I
require forty five million dollars a year to come back.
I'm I'm convinced that we either end up with Justin
Fields next season or Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, Daniel Jones should have left. My initial reaction to
that for the show because I think I spit my
coffee out all over my desk and then we were
delayed and getting getting started. Dude, just that Daniel Jones.
And it's crazy to me, but when I looked at
those numbers, and his numbers are exactly like Justin Fields,

(05:43):
exactly like a Canny picket, I was actually kind of
astonished that they were even that good. But most people
are like, this is one former first round pick where
nobody's like, oh, well he ran for a thousand yards
in a season, or he had a Pro Bowl appearance,
or Daniel Jones did didn't he he had a Pro
Bow appears. Maybe somebody will defend it.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I'm telling you, you and I both have had options
to be in the Pro Bowl, so you.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Know that's true too. But I'll tell you what, guy down.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
The corner, the guy down the corner, he's made a
Pro Bowl appearance.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
It would be very difficult for me to get excited
about the twenty twenty five Steelers season. I mean, I'll
get behind anybody that's going to put on that black
and gold jersey. Trust me, I will try and uncover
some stones and find the silver linings. It's been difficult.
You know what I did with Trubisky. You know my
opinions have been on fields Wilson. I was cautiously optimistic

(06:38):
the start of his tenure here great, the end of
it not so good. And that's about where I sit
with any of it. We know, it's like we'll keep
saying it till the cows come home. The Steelers have
to stink and have a top pick and then hope
that top pick pans out before they get out of
the quarterback purgatory. Because the guys that are available, I said, darnold,

(07:00):
but you've got Here's some former first round picks. Zach Wilson,
Trey Lance, Marcus Mariota making the rounds again, Drew Locke.
Let's see Joe Flacco's running around out there. Jamis Winston
another top overall pick. Him or Mariota were one and
two the one year, Like back in like twenty fifteen
Mac Jones. Remember when everybody wanted Jimmy Garoppolo, And then

(07:24):
you've got guys like case Keenum and Mason Rudolph and
stuff like that. To Cooper Rush Carson Wentz like, there's
just a it's a really bad like group of free
agent quarterbacks. That's why I never got to Daniel Jones
in my article on still Stay at a Ground dot com.
He's so far down this list because it's not even funny,
like when I finally got down there. You can always

(07:46):
go with Tommy DeVito. I mean, I mean, I don't know,
and you look at the draft. Okay, yeah, they talked
to Jackson Dart or some of these other guys. Those
guys got it. I think they're like all middle round picks.
Those are not week one starters unless they're grossly grossly
like misscouted.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
You know, I don't see Jackson Dart as a week
one starter. He may creep into the first round again
because people overpay for quarterbacks, right. He had a nice combine,
don't don't don't get me wrong, he had a nice combine.
It helped by the fact that you know, not everybody
else participate.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, but you know.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
So, I guess the bottom line is they're not spending
pick twenty one on Jackson Dart Right. I mean, we've
got we've got talk out there in the world that
they're gonna spend pick twenty one on Dion Sanders Kid. Right,
They're not gonna. I just can't imagine them doing that, regardless.
I just don't see it. You know, Sanders Kid is

(08:49):
an amazing athlete player. He can do lots of great things.
He's got a weak arm, right, look at look at
the way you throw. He underthrows his guys. He doesn't
Somebody wrote up a nice article on him, but look
at him. You know, you'd have to know how to
use him, right. I just don't see it. I don't
see it. I don't see him spending a first round

(09:09):
pick on but I do on a quarterback this year.
But I do see them signing probably a younger veteran,
you know, Allah Justin Fields, a lah Daniel Jones, and
an older veteran to be a backup. Could be Mason Rudolph,
could be anybody, right.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I would take Mason back in a heartbeat, and thinking
would be able to do all.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Right.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
My only problem is he comes into a different offensive
coordinator than before he he all that success was, it's
different now.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
It's what's gonna matter is who does Arthur want right?
What is who's the guy that's gonna fit in what
he's doing right is? Is that Justin Fields or Daniel Jones?
Is it somebody else? I don't know, but that's gonna
be a big part of what they bring back. And
then I do think that they made draft a quarterback

(10:02):
in the mid rounds to be their third string, developmental
kind of guy that maybe if they hit, you know,
and catch fire with this guy. They aren't looking for
a quarterback in twenty twenty six, but I think the
more than likely path is when the draft hits Pittsburgh,
we're looking for a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
And you know what that fits within the NFL is
rigged kind of category. Would be a good story book
that you know, they take a first round pick when
it's the setting is twenty twenty six NFL Draft in Pittsburgh,
So there's all kinds of news floating around here. You'll
be happy about the one. We'll get to it in
a second. I was going to jump the running back
before I get to wide receiver and There's been a

(10:45):
lot of buzz around. Jerry Dulek was reporting that maybe
Najie Harris returns. I'm fine with that obviously. The financials
and some of what was floated around it was like
three years, twenty some million on the lower end twenty
some million, like twenty one, twenty two. Yeah, you know,
six seven for him. Absolutely, that sounds good to me.
And they can maybe get Warren. They'll have Warren for
another year. It'll tender them, as Omar Khan said. But

(11:06):
an interesting name that popped out, uh Nick Chubb. And
this is a guy that usually I'd say, oh man,
you know what, no way, twenty nine years old, done
washed coming off an injury, the injury two years ago
that cost him most of last year. Brown's offensive line
was shambles like Baron's offense. Their whole team stunk last year.

(11:27):
This is the guy that's bounced back from injury before.
And if he doesn't break the bank, I mean a
one two punch with him and Jalen Warren. If you
don't have nause back, I mean you could do worse. Right.
And really the running back the running backs that are
available out there are like a there, what's that.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I said, maybe maybe.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
There are, but the running back the running backs in
the free agent market right here, or a group of
busted guys, older guys Aaron Jones, Raheem Mostert. There's one
at this list that I actually do like a lot
that I think could be had for cheap Jamal Williams.
And the reason I say that is is he was
returning kicks for the Saints last year. He's two years removed.
He was a little banged up last year, but not

(12:10):
a lot. The Saints had the same problem. They stunk.
They didn't have any quarterbacking two years removed from running
for seventeen touchdowns in a Detroit Lions offense. We're talking
about a Steelers team that if this is their third option,
you're gonna have to replace Cordero Patterson, who had some
snaps allotted to him as a third running back, as
a guy who stepped in when Warren was banged up
or Nause was banged up. Absolutely, you could throw him

(12:31):
out there. He's thirty years old. That's about your ceiling
for a running back. But he could return kicks, so
he's also a special teamer. And what did the Steelers
suck it doing last year, third and one, fourth and one.
This is a guy that might be able to move
some chains. So he's not a priority free agent for me,
but if he's one that like kind of creeps under
the wire there. But some of the others, AJ Dillon,

(12:53):
Javonte Williams is basically nause light. Alexander Madison, a Mira Abdula,
He's a kick return, but he's not a guy that
you really want back there. I'm surprised he's had as
much longevity in the NFL as he has. JK. Dobbins.
Chase Edmonds is an interesting one. But all of these
guys are like twenty nine, thirty years old now, Rico

(13:14):
Dowdell from the Cowboys, twenty seven, Kareem Hunt, camp Makers,
Dante Foreman. It's a bunch of you're gonna hear this
with the wide receiver group too. It's a bunch of
after runs, a bunch of guys that have been around,
bouts it around the league. But the Steelers don't have
like particularly if they have Harris coming back, they don't
have a major need. And even if they don't, they
have Warren, then we're gonna just kind of guess that

(13:35):
they add some kind of veteran that's there for depth,
and they may be draft somebody. So it's you know,
it's not cause for hitting the panic button.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
No. I think if they can get an Augie backed
for a nice number that works and he's willing to
take it, I think that's fine. I think somebody put
out again, there's a lot of analysis of the free
agent list, and somebody did what I think is a
fair analysis of Naji, right. Nase is not Derrick Henry.
Nase is not Tae Kwon Barkley. Nase's not fast. Right.

(14:08):
He's faster than I think sometimes we give him credit for,
but he's not a breakaway guy. He's a power back.
He's a plodding back. He's a durable back. Sometimes that's fine, right,
And he's been running behind to suspect offensive line here
his whole career. So you know, if they can bring
him back and they can improve the offensive line play,

(14:30):
maybe Nag has a very nice year and is adequate
for what they need out of their running back, especially
tagged with with Jalen Warren. Concern with Jalen Warren now
is that he's had, you know, been bitten by the
injury bug. A little bit. I do think they'll draft
a running back. I don't think they'll draft one high,
but I do think they'll draft a running back and

(14:51):
potentially if there's value in you know, the third fourth rounds,
which there could be, because there's a pretty deep running
back class of this year, so you know, they might
add a running back that way, and they might sign
a free agent. I mean, they still got to have
people and bodies in camp to compete, right, It's not
going to be a given. They're going to see what

(15:13):
they've got and go from there.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, I'm not as worried about running back wide receiver.
I think I think everybody's looking at wide receiver. Wide
receiver is like, other than quarterback and quarterback, you're kind
of im purgatory. There's not a whole lot you're going
to improve on. You could just hope that even if
it is like a Daniel Jones justin fields, Russell Wilson, whatever,
that you can at least like maintain the status quo

(15:38):
like you did with a Candy Pickett Trubisky. You could
win some games, you could still be a postseason team,
but who are they throwing to? And that's the big
thing DeVante Adams getting released from the Jets. He's thirty
three years old. He's probably still going to be the
what do you want to say, the crown jewel of
the free agent market here?

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Those like The thing is they're they're both going to
be serviceable veterans. You're right, they're going to be the
cream of the crop in what is a horrible free
agent wide receiver market. And neither one of them is
going to change your room dramatically, you know, d hop
if we bring him in, are we over paying for

(16:20):
an aged veteran? Absolutely? And you know you've got one
of those, right. You got Mike Williams last year. How
much did he really contribute? He had one really great
play and then sort of vanished off the face of
the earth. I admit, you know, maybe they didn't know
what to do with him, you know, Arthur Smith may
or may not have figured out how to integrate him
in the office offense. I I again, the problem is

(16:44):
it's just not a good group of free agents. They
absolutely will have to sign a veteran of some form
to round out their room, you know, because that's a
pretty empty room right now, and it's not impressive and
it's you're right. Other than quarterback, it's the biggest concern
that we've got.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, and I still wonder what they do here with
You've got two guys that are on expiring contracts. So
you got George Pickens and Kelvin Austin that are both
entering the final year of their career. Omar Khan maybe
it was some lip service, but his interview was saying
George wants to be a Steeler, maybe they extend him.
If they extend him, there's not gonna be a whole

(17:25):
bucket of money for another wide receiver. But you need
somebody that's gonna help George Pickens in Over the last
two years, it's been Alan Robinson and it's been Mike Williams,
neither of which moved the needle. But if you're thinking
you're gonna take a receiver with one of the top
fifty picks first or second round, maybe even make a
move and move up. I know we keep talking about
a Mecca a Buka for example, He's not the only one.

(17:47):
But beyond that's not whatever rookie get, they're not gonna
get on the field right away either. So you need somebody,
Like I'm looking at this and it's like, oh, Tyler Lockett,
he's thirty three years old, and I'm like, I used
to love Tyler Lockett, trust me. DeAndre Hopkins is the
same age. DeVante Adams is the same age. Maybe Adams
is a little more in the tank. Chris Godwin a
guy that I think is least the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

(18:10):
for way too much money, like always hurt, never out there.
At least that's a tag on I'm Keenan Allen also
that same age. He's old. Stefan Diggs is thirty two.
This is old thirty thirty one. That's it for a
lot of wide receivers. Now Adams I think he's more
of a physical specimen. Maybe he has a little more,
but let somebody else overpay him and make the Julio
Jones mistake or the mistakes that all these other teams

(18:32):
make over the years and taking a higher dollar receiver.
Maybe keep your own guy in the stable with George Pickens,
although we all know that the George Pickets thing, there's
there's a lot of a attitude this, that and the
other thing. Do you want to hit your saddles to
that guy? Like long term that is Uh, that's questionable.

(18:52):
That is questionable, but you're not going to hit your
saddles long term to a lot of these guys. Robert
Woods is another one that's out. There's a Darius say,
look at you, what are you dancing?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Dancing?

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Because DK metcalfs.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
DK Metcalf has requested a trade, yes, and the Seahawks
are exploring options. That's what you're talking about right there.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
That's the only way the Steelers really move the needle
in terms of upgrading the wide receiver room. The other
way is you sign a vet my article Brandon Cooks.
Here's why Brandon Cooks. You could probably put him anywhere
on the field. He's usually fairly healthy for the most part.
He's he's performed everywhere he's gone. He is old though
he's thirty two. But that means if you're gonna draft somebody,

(19:34):
guess who starts the season Brandon Cooks. Guess who finishes
the season probably the guy you drafted. And then Brandon
Cooks is gone after a year. It's no big deal.
And you still have Romin Wilson, who knows what you're
doing with him, who knows what you're doing with pickings
or Austin. So it's not like the worst case scenario
if you add like a veteran guy who's been there
and done that and could be a kind of a
leadership mentor type role for a younger receiver. But all

(19:55):
bets are off if you could get DK Metcalf.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Excuse me, I know they ends up how you changed
the draft. They get DK Metcalf into trade. All of
a sudden, you're you're looking at one of the top
three defensive linemen in the first round instead of a
wide receiver. You still are gonna double dip, You're gonna
draft a wide receiver, but now it doesn't have to
be the top priority.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, and I know I haven't been talking too much
about the Steelers' own free agents, but obviously we're We've
talked about that a little bit in the past episodes.
Scottie Miller, Mike Williams, Van Jefferson, Ben Scarnik, all free agents.
The only guy who has a prayer of probably coming
back out of that group is Scronic and that's because
of special Yeah. Yeah, the guy we were making fun of,
like you know, four weeks into Yeah, Kabali Uh out

(20:44):
there with the athletic or formerly the Athletic. I don't
know what Kabali's doing these days. He's reporting for himself
for Pat McAfee. But Steelers beat writer and he said,
I'm surprised they didn't franchise tag Ben Scarnick. So total
total trope troll hosting there. That is, you know, tight
end tight end room. Well, let me go through a

(21:06):
couple more wide receivers. I was looking like Nelson Aglar.
What I was starting to say is you were doing
your little dance and distracting me. I was gonna get
around to a trade. I was talking free agents. I
was talking free agents.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Don't care.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I just came across my wire. So yes, I was
like happy, I saw it before you did, and it
wasn't much more before you did. But I was holding that.
I had that ace up my sleeve. Here. I'll tell
you what man I said. No, Chris Godwin, Amari Cooper
is another guy I would maybe kick the tires on.
He's he's thirty one. It's somebody, you know what I mean.
And Amari's he's put up stuff. He's put up uh,

(21:39):
he's polished, he's performed anywhere he's been. I know Hopkins
has two but when you look at the rest of
this class and who's going to get overpaid, I don't
see Brandon Cooks or Marie Cooper being guys that are overpaid,
albeit those probably ten million a year at least. Though
even for these guys though, that's the thing what.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
I'm gonna say about Amari Cooper and uh the other two.
They went to teams last year. Amari Cooper went to
Josh Allen. How well did he perform? One of the
top quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
The middle of the year, though, I really strug struggle
with that.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
I get it's hard. I get it's hard to integrate,
but you know, and the thing is, if you still
got it though, you find a way. That's what I
just believe that, right. I get it. These are aging
veterans that are being brought in through trade to try
and bulk things up. I know they don't have a rapport,
but nobody was wandering around going, oh, Mari Cooper was

(22:37):
open all the time. Josh didn't see him. That's all.
Just I look at it and go, I think you
get what they got, even with a full season, even
with a full you know, preseason, I think you end
up getting out of these guys what they showed they
can contribute when they moved.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Hey, I'm not trying to just stick with well you
sign Cooper, You're done. Everything's fixed either I'm my whole
thing with anybody on this list is you sign this
guy and somebody else has got to come along, Like
you're not looking for Jalen Rieger or Paris Cambell or
Nichole Hardman or here's another one that was in the

(23:18):
trade speculation last year. Darius Slayton does nothing for me, man,
Like it needs to be somebody that's like, well, you know,
week one, we don't really know if like Keenan Allen
still has it, if he could take the top off
you got to defend. You could probably win a few
games just by that until you find out this guy's
a decoy, he doesn't have it anymore, and just to

(23:40):
leave him one on one with like our fourth corner
or something on the depth chart, right, so you don't
know that you don't have the film on him just yet.
And it's somebody that's a veteran that might help the
young guy. That's the way I'm approaching this entire thing.
Darius Slayton doesn't do that for me, if you add him,
it's just another body like a Roman Wilson or Calvin
Austin for me, maybe just maybe maybe just like a
tinch above that, just a little nudge above that. But

(24:02):
he's not another George Pickens that might have an unknown
ceiling to him. So that's where I'm at with this.
I mean free agency. A lot of times you're getting
somebody else's trash and you're paying for it. Is the
way it is. The tight end room. I don't have
anything to change or add to this. I know Michael
Preuittz probably on his way out. He's like thirty four
years old. There's a few blocking tight ends. They add somebody, great, whatever,

(24:24):
I'm not going to waste our breath at our time,
our valuable time on our program for this kind of
suff We have other nonsense we could always talk about.
So tight end room, I think is pretty settled. You
got Friarmuth and Darnel Washington under contract long term. Offensive line.
I don't know what to think about offensive line because
a lot of these players are at a premium right.

(24:44):
How settled are you? You're settled on two spots, Isaac
say Amalu, he's your left guard, Zach Fraser's your center.
Now you may have some names penciled in. You might
have a right guard to Mason McCormick who finished the
year for James Daniels, and you have two tackles. Roderick
Jones has been playing on the right the entire time.
Was draft to be a left tackle. Dan Moore junior,
Sey Levie. Don't see any path for him coming back

(25:05):
to Pittsburgh. And then Troy Fotano played one game last year,
no penalties. I don't think he gave up any pressures
or anything. He played well against the what ended up
being a good Broncos defense later in the season. I
don't know if you could put the Broncos in that
same category in Week two. But for a rookie, okay,
is he gonna be the right tackle of the future?
Huge tvds across the board there with the three I

(25:28):
just mentioned, the younger guys that are, you know, entering
year two or year three in the league. Do the
Steelers add somebody or depth? Absolutely? Then you look at
the list and you're like, you're not going to They're
not gonna hit like a major home run here, and
they're not gonna be going after some of these older
tackles or some of the guys that have bounced around
the league, Like you got some free agents that are

(25:49):
impending here and now I'm going over at thecap dot
com right now. So if I miss any news between
now and when this show drops, I apologize. But this
is about as current as we got right So you're
not looking at like Ronnie Stan cam Robinson, Tyron Smith,
DJ Humphries who just returned with the Chiefs, or Morgan Moses,
or even some of the younger guys who didn't necessarily
pan out, like a like a Jedrick Wills for example,

(26:13):
McKay Beckton who had to change positions. It might be
sought after because the Eagles just won a Super Bowl.
People overpaid for those guys all the time. There's not
a lot. There's like nothing on this list that stands
out to me. I got like one guy maybe as
a reserve if somebody else doesn't try and overpay for
him on an expiring rookie contract. Remember Dylan Raidin's from
North Dakota State. We talked about him a lot a

(26:35):
few years ago, potentially you know, playing a tackle, playing guard.
He did play right guard all of last year Mason
McCormick's position. That gives you somebody that at least started
at that position, that's positioned flexible, and maybe he could
even play a swing tackle. He's like six six, three
hundred ish pounds or whatever. He's a four year veteran.
If nobody's really knocking on his door, I might sniff

(26:58):
around at him. But it's got to be somebody in
that kind of category. Admittedly, I didn't look at all
of this because there's a lot of usual suspects, like
a Robert Hainsey, A who else is out on this God,
there's guys David Questenberry, guy's like thirty five years old.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
It's just some of the names have already been in Pittsburgh.
What's his name that was with the I just mentioned Hubbard,
and then Covid Beacham is up again. You know, ageless
wonder that went to the Cardinals and had a very
long career. There's not a whole lot you're gonna do here.
You're probably gonna run it back with the younger guys
unless you unless you bring like James Daniels back, or

(27:35):
is the other herbig brother also free agent? I believe
so let me look at the list here, but I
believe he's on this list too. Yeah, yeah, Nate's also
so you got to bring back your own guys maybe, uh,
just for depth, But James Daniels is going to be
a starter somewhere. It's just a question of if he
still got it and what his health looks on.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, it's a it's a function of dollars and health
with James Daniels, Right, does he passed their physical and
do they feel like he's going to contribute and how
much is he going to cost to do? So? You know,
I don't know that he boosted his value during his
time yere, I don't think he heard it. It just

(28:15):
depends on how how weak or strong. I guess week
is really more like it. The market is for interior
offensive linemen. You know, those guys tend to tackles, tend
to be the big you know, the big premium guys
and guards villain as you need. But if you can

(28:35):
get a good one, hey, great, right. I might have
been willing to give up the fourth round pick to
the Chiefs or whatever to get their interior.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Oh toney, yeah, man, that was something with the Bears.
So fourth round pick and he's positioned flexile, he's playing
out of position. In the Super Bowl, he's playing They
had him playing tackle because they what else could they do?
They had no bodies left.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
So I think Dan Moore is probably gone, you know,
unless he goes out and explores free agency and nobody's
really interested. Seems unlikely somebody's gonna overpay for him. It's
gonna be the exact same thing that happened when Calvin
beachan left right. We liked Beach when he was here.
He was undersized for a tackle, but he got the
job done. But you know, somebody went out and hate

(29:19):
him more than we could afford to pay him at
that given time, and that was it. And I think
that's much more likely with Dan Moore at this point.
He's he's a guy that's got what four years of
starting somebody will somebody's gonna pay him. So yeah, it
you're looking at Roderick Jones and Troy Fontinaw being your

(29:41):
starting tackles next year. What that works out as, I
don't know, but that's what you're looking at. So you know,
it'll either start to go well and they'll be building
the line that they think they're building, or it'll be
a disaster.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, And that's what I'm saying, Like, whoever they signed,
there's not real path path, real pathway unless it's another guard. Now,
if they signed like an Alex Kappa, for example, just
released from the Bengals, he's signing, he's signing with the
Steelers to be a starter. He's and Mason McCormick go back,
you know, you're a fourth round pick from a you know,
a one double a school, FCS school, go back and
learn for another year, you know. And I'm not necessarily

(30:18):
saying that McCormick is washed or not good or whatever,
but you have to be concerned. And you also have
to be concerned if there's an injury. You don't have
another Mason McCormick at this point. Maybe you do. Maybe
you have some targets in the draft. You're gonna need
another tackle somewhere. They're just, you know, they're kind of
fortunate that they still had PROGERC. Jones, and he had
already played some at right tackle. Even though it wasn't great,
he still had some experience. They got that they were

(30:39):
able to throw him out there. Now you moved up
in the draft to get this guy, and he's a
former first round pick. You're gonna put him where you
projected to play him originally two years ago. You're gonna
put him on the left and you're gonna try it.
You get that's what you that's that's the plan. It
has to be that way, and the same with Flatanu.
So more or less just looking for maybe some depth
guys in case of injury, or somebody that might compete

(31:01):
with McCormick for a starting spot. You bring in like
a Raduns, and all of a sudden you're like, hey,
you know what, this guy, he's more serviceable. He's doing
better than McCormick. Then it's like, well, well know, we
have McCormick that could play the swing and beat the
depth and he has some starting experience, not the end
of the world. Doesn't mean he's not the future. Just
you know, you have some options there. So but they
get they boy, it is like really a bunch of

(31:23):
question marks because if Jones and Fatan, who go out
there and stink it up the same way, one of
the two at least they have to strike gold with
and if they do, great, then you got three, maybe
four of the positions. Even if McCormick or whoever else
might be there. Then you got four of the five,
and now you can kind of help with Roderick Jones
out if he's the weak link, and you could, you know,
bring a tight end over an extra ligneman in these

(31:46):
different packages and do some different things that maybe he's
not as exposed. But right now, when you have like
two or three guys that are exposed, the whole line's exposed.
And then the quarterbacks look the way they did most
of the last season running for their lives. So talking
about they should add somebody the offense offensive line, I
don't see them necessarily doing it in the draft like
they had been. It'll probably be like a middle, middle

(32:07):
or later round guy and they could get You could
get guards there obviously too. Yeah, well where you want
to go, my friend, is you need some help for
the grown ass man?

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, I'm not absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I'm not sure that there's a whole lot to be seen.
I mean, the free agency kind of sucks this year. Man.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
It is the same thing you said last show, right,
if you can make a trade with the Commanders for
whoever that guy was that you were talking about.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Uh Alan Allen Allen Oh, Jonathan Allen. Jonathan Allen. I
keep thinking there's two Josh Allen's floating around in the NFL. Yes,
and then Jared Allen, the timeless guy for the Vikings.
Jonathan Allen. Yes, you can get a.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Trade that's that's a low round pick, and you can
get value for that. You do that in a heartbeat, right,
you know you make that. But if you're trying to
look for even depth in the in the free agent
market for defensive line, I don't. I don't think you're
finding it. Honestly, it's it's just weak.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
No, it's very weak. I mean, you got Javon Hargrave,
who's thirty two. I'd welcome him back with open arms,
but not at twenty twenty some million of years a
little rich at his age. I know the forty nine
ers might want him back, Maybe he wants to be
a fit there. I should I should go back to
James Daniels for a second too. Somebody was saying somewhere
along the lines, I was reading something where maybe he
doesn't want to return, or there might not be never

(33:33):
say never. You know, when he's sitting out there, passed
next Friday, and it goes into the following weekend, and
there's not a lot of feelers for his services. Never
say never with that stuff, Never say never. Nope, I
will not slam the door shut. But defensive line that
could use some help. Larry Okujobi serviceable can be upgraded.
He's approaching thirty years of age, and Cam Hayward thirty

(33:56):
five or whatever he is. You know how much longer
is Cam Hayward going to be ageless in playing Keanu
Bentons Jano Benton's the other guy that's there. And then
you have much not a whole lot of everything else,
I know, like Montravius Adams whatever, Isaiah Loudermilk is a
free agent, you bring him back like he's like Chris Warmley.
You bring him back on a one year just so
you have somebody that can play special teams, that knows
the system is and starting from scratch. But like there's

(34:18):
a lot of usual suspects. There's a lot of guys
that are hitting their thirties, like a Sheldon Rankins, a
bj Hill former Bengals. There. Yeah, there's some like John Kaminsky,
Solomon Thomas's, Jerry Tillery, I mean, and lin Val Joseph
who's been around forever thirty seventy years old. There aren't
a lot of you know, prize guys just go out

(34:41):
there sign right. It's some of these guys may even
be headed towards retirement, as what I should say. So
that's looking like a draft item more than anything, unless
you know there's a trade or something like you say,
or by perchance Hargrave, who's the headliner of all of this,
there's probably several teams are still going to be stiffing
around from him if he doesn't return, as if it's it's.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
It's about that with Javon, it's about the dollars. It's
the same thing. We didn't want Javon Hargrave, believe ever,
because we liked what we saw in him, and you know,
he just they kind of had him playing out of position.
It wasn't what he you know, and and he transitions
and has had a very nice career. But yeah, they
they are. They're in a position where it's either trade

(35:28):
or you know, you look at at Lario, look and
I like Lario, But to say Lario has overperformed his
contract is not true. He's probably underperformed his contract. You know,
he he is a walking injury, not because he misses games,
but he plays the entire season hurt. Yeah, getting his

(35:49):
full potential and at some point, you know, that's a
guy that he you know, at some point is the
pain worth it? Right? Like I'm playing through pain every
every every game. I don't know, you know, maybe maybe
he retired, maybe he wants to, you know, go hit
the last team in the NFC or the FC North
that he hasn't played for.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Or wait, he was with the Bengals, who didn't he
played for the Ravens.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah, that finalizes all of them. Then he's played for
the entire AFC North.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
And I'm not trying to kick Lario out the door,
but no, Yeah, that's the guy right now that you
have to look and say, Yeah, the way Cam has played,
the way Camp played last year, you have to assume
he's going to maintain that level at least for another year.
You have to hope, I should say, but you're not

(36:39):
going to draft a guy and go you're taking camp spot,
at least not this year, but you could be drafting
a guy and go and go, You're gonna take Larry
O's spot.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
That's very possible, or even sign because they'd save seven million.
Of Larry Ogunjobi gets released. He's got like the seventh
highest paid pit among all the Steelers, so he's a
top ten contract on a team. It's certainly something to
think about when the guys ahead of them are TJ. Watt,
who's gonna be looking for an extension entering the last

(37:10):
year of his contract, Minka cam Alex high Smith and
Patrick Queen and Pat Fryer moves. That's something to think
about there in terms of dollars and cents, and when
you might be wanting to also throw some money at
George Pickens again, fifty nine point six million, that's a
nice chunk of change. But if you give forty of
it to Russell Wilson this year, for example, it's all gone.

(37:32):
You got like twenty million, and then you might have
to make some other moves. So if you do make
a trade and you bring in DK Metcalf, who I
think is owed. I think he's like eighteen million right
now and the final year of his contract will Seattle
they want an extension, you can't do both of those
deals Pickets and Metcalf, and then you don't have any money.
And then going in the next year and depending on
how long you signed a quarterback for, so that might

(37:53):
be the kind of transaction. It's not necessary, you're comfortable
with where you are, but keeping your eye on the
future as well, and maybe opening yourself up to what's
our likely draft targets. If we need wide receiver and cornerback.
I'm not gonna be able to sniff a week one
starting defensive lineman or even a guy that might be rotational.
It might be another Isaiah louder Milk, or it may

(38:14):
have to kick the can another year. You keep Larry Ogajobi,
or you make that trade for Allan and then the money,
you know, flies out the door. So you know what,
even Hardgrave I got to mention it again. It was
like it wasn't even an either or, Like when we
were talking about Calvin Beachum. It was bring back Ramon
Foster or bring back Kelvin Beacham. And they had Alejandro
villanuweva mountain of a man that was capable of stepping

(38:36):
in and being, you know, Beacham's replacement. As is the case,
they already had stuff on to it and Hardgrave was
playing in place of either his injury or Cams I
can't remember, maybe one or both at that point, and
that's how he got most of his playing time. And
he really balled out and earned himself a huge contract,
then really balled out with the Eagles and earn another
contract with the Niners, and now he's a household name.

(38:58):
Though I'm not necessarily saying it's somebody I would welcome back,
not necessarily saying that they're going to be able to
lure him back. Necessarily. The linebackers, you know we mentioned,
I'm not mentioning the edge guys. I think they're pretty
good there. I didn't even think of edge. I love
linebacker all together. They're probably pretty decent here, depending on
what they do with Cole Holcomb who's under contract for
one more season, and a Lannon Roberts who will be

(39:21):
an impending free agent. Tyler Mattikevitch special teams guy is
an impending free agent. Maybe they bring him back just
to play special teams, but he doesn't really play any
depth roles. I think Mark Robinson's still hanging around for
one more year there. They have him for the same
So it's really a question of you know, you're three deep.
You could never be deep enough with this inside linebacker grip.
It seems every year. So you have Peyton Wilson, Yeah,

(39:44):
Patrick Queen, will Cole Holcomb play a backup role or
where you want to seek something else out or do
the Steelers feel is he healthy enough he got the
practice around playoff time, We don't know. Those are the unknowns.
If he goes, then you have nobody under contract, and
then you got to go starting to look for somebody.
And man, it's another list of guys that are like
in there, you know, early to mid thirties, and a

(40:05):
bunch of younger guys that you know, like Devin White
came out with Devin Bush that is just went, you know,
rate just blow him on up, Ray Kwan McMillan. Guys
like that that are just like they're they're not very exciting.
If you have him as a backup, great, but you
don't really want to see them out there and play.
So it almost makes me feel like if they feel
that Holcomb is all right and the dollar figures, don't

(40:27):
bother them, or they don't do some kind of redo
on his contract, bring him back. He's a green dot
type guy. You need these guys because of the way
the Steelers are. I don't see a whole lot of
names that are out there. The Colts released EJ.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Speed.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
That was somebody that I put in the article that
I had written them for the website. Played in a
four to three. But he's a guy that could at
least be like a coverage down, a passing down a linebacker,
so and a three four that is, so they could
move him to inside should they need to. And there's
a couple other guys that are like that. But man,

(41:03):
I'll tell you, the list is pretty pretty pretty thin,
especially for a position that I think that they're mostly
settled at. You know, they they'll never have enough linebackers.
The Steelers run on linebackers. It's like wanting to run
on Duncan, right, They run on linebackers. So they could

(41:25):
add somebody, But I'm not out here looking at like
thirty five year old Levonte David or who else is
around here. It's been playing forever. Well, here's Jeron Baker,
but he's probably still looking to start. He's twenty nine,
Bobby Wagner thirty five years old, Isaiah Simmons twenty seven,
but probably looking to start somewhere. So Kaizer White twenty nine,
probably looking to start somewhere. Dak Bond should go back

(41:47):
to Philadelphia, maybe they'll let him stuff around. Robert Splaine
does he fit. They didn't keep him around the first
time around. He did well with the Raiders, but man,
he had a lot of opportunities to play defense too.
They were on the field a lot. But you see
names like Willie Gay, who we liked before. He's twenty
seven with the Saints. But it's like Willy Gay, he's

(42:07):
you know, his agent's looking at it. And like they
signed Patrick Queen. They have a guy they drafted that
had a first round grade, and Peyton Wilson. You're not
going to get a chance to play here. I think
you've got guys like you know, Malie Harrison's another one,
you know that was thought of more highly coming out
of the draft when the Steelers were really inside linebackers starved.
It was like, oh, Malie Harrison could be like a

(42:28):
guy like that. Devin White could be a guy like that,
Devin Bush could be a guy like that. None of
them worked, and that's what half of this list is.
It's either guys that are like thirty four to thirty
five years old or guys that are you know, just
have never never made it.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah, I don't. Every year I expect them to draft
a linebacker. So somewhere in the draft they will draft
a linebacker. If they don't, I will be shocked in
my draw jaw will drop to the FL. But I
don't see them making a lot of moves at that
position in free agency in any way, shape or form,

(43:05):
right be a trade or free agency. Yeah, they might.
They might sign somebody for depth, but that's about it.
I just can't see it being more than.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah, well, move to his secondary. Steelers they're probably need still.
They may or may not need a slot corner. Mike
Helton's gonna be out there on the market now too.
I think his pride would never allow him to come
back to Pittsburgh, and I'm not necessarily sure i'd want
to pay him either, So they might find somebody else.
But on the other side, they really desperately need somebody

(43:37):
to replace Dante Jackson. I don't know if it will
be Jackson coming back himself. If I'm Omar Khan, you
might just dip your toe in the big pool and
get out of the kiddie pool. Stop playing around with
the middling to find corner. Two's go get Tavarious Ward
from the Niners. I know he's twenty nine. Give him
a decent contract to finish his career the backside of it.

(44:01):
Maybe several good years with the Steelers opposite Joey Porter
would be amazing. There's a few other names that are
floating around there, like a Carlton Davis from the Lions,
DJ Reid from the Jets. You've got some older players,
Jota Jones from the Patriots. It's like, I don't want
another older guy. I don't need another Patrick Peterson. I
don't want to see Darius Slay. There's just something in

(44:22):
my gut, dude, that is just like like Tomlin's out there,
like Berry Slay, like Homer looking at donuts.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Slay's been very clear, at least around here, he's either
going to play for the Eagles or Detroit. He only
wants to play one more.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Yeah, yeah, he wants one more for year thirty four.
He wants one more season. He feels he's got one
more one one.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
More season, and he only really wants to play for
the teams he's played for, either Detroit or Philly. You know,
so I don't see that happening, and I don't it
doesn't matter how much Tomlin salivates. I don't think and
I don't know that he is right, But you.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Know what I mean, it's like somebody is old, old tread,
you know, veteran. It's like, let's bring this guy. Let's
go get Steph FuG Gilmore. I think he's like thirty five. Now.
It's like, finally, after several years of all the clickbait
out there, it's like Steph FuG Gilmour will be a
Steeler now he finally is. And he's got a wheelchair
or a walker.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, I know we're not
really talking about the draft, but in my view, you know,
one A and one B are wide receiver and defensive
line in the draft, like those are the top two positions,
and depending on what you can do in trade and
in free agency, will determine which one is one A
and which one is one B. Right, my view right

(45:39):
now is that's the top pick. But here's the caveat
Let's say that they flip and they get somebody via trade.
Let's say they get a DK Metcalf or they get
a Jonathan Allen. Right, all of a sudden. I think
cornerback comes into the first round again, and you see,
if you can get a guy that you can grow
with Joey Porter, that is a true, you know, number

(46:00):
one type young guy. I agree with you. I think
they have a need, whether it's Dante Jackson, whether it's
you know, getting as you said, out of the kiddie
pool and looking at some of the top free agents
that are available and going ahead and spending the money
on it. They got to make a move there because

(46:21):
it's it's been very their secondary has been questionable.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Yeah, I mean there's some veteran players they can get
by with if they still think that they could develop.
Corey Trice. We saw, you know, for all the lip
service you get from Omar Khan, there was something in
the tea leaves about him saying, you know, Corey trace
the experienced and hasn't been healthy, and that means they
don't trust him, is what I'm reading into those comments.
So if you don't trust a guy, you're probably looking

(46:46):
at another veteran. If you want somebody that's on the
same level of like a Jackson, well there's a Dori
Jackson's out there. I Sawntay Samuel Junior's out there. So
there's some names and there's plenty of them, and then
they'll add somebody I'm not. I'm not outside of they
don't have a choice, and outside of Ward, there isn't
anybody that I think makes the big splash in that
pool though. That's what I'm saying, like James Bradbury being released,

(47:10):
like the Eagles like clean the house because they went
and they got a bunch of studs in the draft.
I hate them. I hate their I hate their whole
front office because it's just like with them in the Ravens.
It always seems like, you know, you're the kid in
the candy store and then the rich kid's dad comes
in and buys all the candy that you wanted and
you're like just sitting there like, well, I guess I'll
get this dad's root beer or something like whatever's left over.

(47:30):
So that's the way I look at MTE Dimante Casey
also free agent, but only reserves safety. I think they're
good with the Sean Eliotty signed like for two years
last year, Mika the other safety. So it's really that
boundary corner.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
And look, I'm gonna say this, the same thing is
true the Ravens, and the same thing is true of
the Eagles. They've done a great job of managing their
draft and their capital, but they have both benefited from
having a super Bowl caliber team that eventually stunk for
one year, right, so that they had a team that
was really good and they got to draft really high

(48:05):
again with no good reason for being able.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
To Yeah, I know, man, at that.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Steelers are never in that position. We don't. We draft
in the middle.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Of the Bengals too. The Bengals, the Bengals were the worst.
Got Joe Burrow, he gets hurt his rookie year, and
then they're able to get Chase Chase, same kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yeah, right, I mean they screwed up their defense and
they don't they you know they I'm not putting them
in the same deal, right, they had the same gifts. Yes,
they didn't do as good a job.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Okay, yes, you know.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
And you know I was talking to a guy like
works at the diner down there or I go sometimes
for dinner. He's a big Eagles fan, and yeah, he's like,
we got another two maybe two years before all of
a sudden, the to Georgia d Lyman want to get
Buko Boku bukou bucks right, and all of a sudden
they can't keep everybody anymore. But they got a window

(48:57):
because they got young and they got really good guys
in the draft and they did a great job. But
they have a very limited window and those pieces are
going to start to go by the side because people
are gonna leave for free agency. But yeah, that's the
thing is the Steelers simply never. We aren't drafted in
the top ten.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Yeah, never, And they haven't had a top pick overall
since Terry Bradshaw. So I mean, go back, what year
was Bradshaw. No, Joe Green was sixty nine, Bradshaw was
seventy nineteen seventy one or seventy one. Yeah, he was
one of the two. Well back to the Steelers. We
don't have a whole lot of guys where they're saying,
oh man, they absolutely need to bring this guy back

(49:39):
out of the free agency list. Like there's Cam Sutton,
There's James Pierre, I said, Demante Casey, Dante Jackson, then CJ.
Henderson and Zion Gilbert, guys that never like sniffed any
playing time. They're all gone. I think unless somebody comes back,
really really cheap as depth. What the other safety, Demanta CAZy?

Speaker 2 (50:02):
No, no, the other one that wast is he still
under contract?

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah? Elliott. Elliott was signed for two years.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Okay, good, Then not worry because that if he was
a free agent, then he's the one I wanted to
bring back.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Well absolutely, so you know you don't have a whole
lot to worry about with. You know, you got Sean
Elliott there now, longer term locker room leader and a guy,
like we said, he wears twenty five so he reminds
you of Ryan Clark in many ways. I think he's
just a great fit for the team. They didn't do
a whole lot they were trying. They didn't do a

(50:33):
whole lot with that multiple safety thing. They brought Terrell
Edmonds back to try and do it. They didn't use
CAZy a whole lot. I don't know if that's out
the window, if that was part of their game plan
and the personnel just didn't work for them. Elliott was
hurt a little bit. This team went through safety something terrible.
I mean, they brought Eric Rowe back in just to
be on the practice squad too, but they went through
safeties like something terrible. Five or six deep by the

(50:53):
time they went to the playoff game at Buffalo the
year before with Mason Rudolph as the quarterback, it wouldn't
hurt them to have a little bit of, you know,
depth there, but they had been trying for so long
to get somebody next to make a Kean O'Neil was
one of those guys too, just kind of declared his
retirement special teams. I don't have anything to mention for

(51:15):
special teams. Cameron Johnston, he's talking about he's out there
moving around and active, so he's gonna be healthy. If
they want to bring back Cordless weightman for a competition
or depth or whatever to camp, by all means, see
if he's available do so. Boswell's safe where he is.
Long snapper Christian Koontz good where he is. And maybe

(51:36):
they get somebody that's a kicker, putt returner, probably gonna
have to be a running back or a wide receiver
they get signed, it's gonna be one of those signings
like a Quiz Watkins last year where people were like
that doesn't really do a whole lot, and I remember
that one and I was just like, yeah, just hold
your horses, you know, some of these. It's like everybody
was talking about, well, you know what tight end Donald
Parum could probably be. He's a big dude, and they

(51:57):
signed him because he was you know, already terminated contract.
You'd have to wait for this tampering period or whatever.
Big dude, he's fine for a tight end three. He's
got some touchdowns and some passes the NFL. He's gonna
be out there and tasked with just being a body
to help them gain those you know, third or fourth
in one or inches or whatever, tush push whatever that

(52:19):
might be. So but just really telling that the Steelers
don't have a whole lot of guys to bring back themselves.
They're pretty the biggest ones at the quarterback position, and man,
it's had a big question market depending on what No
matter what happens, if they still bring back Russell Wilson
or Justin Fields, I'm probably still sitting there trying to
justify why I want to get excited for this upcoming season,

(52:41):
and most people are going to bad mouth it one
way or the other, or if it's not those two
guys and somebody else, and then they go and they
grab somebody in the draft, and you know, you know,
dan Well Brian how it works. They're gonna want that
backup quarterback in as soon as the other guy has
like a three and out to start that first preseason
game or something. It's gonna be playing this other guy,

(53:01):
play this other guy. And it's gonna be somebody. They
do have Skyler Thompson that they signed during the off season,
it's gonna be somebody like that, or Spencer Rattler or
one of these like an Ian book or you know,
there's a name. The number of guys that you fall
in love with in the draft process. You're like, that
could be that next Tom Brady. That's that late round
you know, sixth or seventh round pick. That then you

(53:22):
throw him out there and it's a disaster because quarterback
is just the hardest position to find a guy to
hardest position in the NFL. It's hard to find that guy.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
I'll dump a boatloaded cheer on the on the upcoming season,
like there people are gonna want to get You're gonna
want to get excited. There's not gonna be a reason
to be excited. I'm just telling you next year is
at best, the very best case for next year is
this year. All right, Your better case in my mind

(53:55):
is we stink. We need to stick. I'm sorry, we
need to stink for a year so that we can
get one of those topics, and.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
That stinking might be Get pumped up for this, Get
pumped up for Daniel Jones. Somebody's somebody's gonna give him
a shot. I don't want to crap all over him.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
But I'm quite content to crap all over him. I'll
if we sign him, I'm gonna go. Yeah, he stinks,
he's not good, but.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I'm not buying a Daniel Jones jersey anytime any anytime soon.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
You could just wear your Landry Jones jersey and wander
around go hey, you know, I'm in.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
That's if that's if he were to wear, it's gonna be.
It's kind of crazy, you know. Like I got some
of the signed jerseys here off camera. I've got two
number three's, I've got a Landry Jones sign, I got
the Jeff Reid sign that you actually sent me. And
if I ended up with Russell Wilson's sign, that'll be
three number three jerseys. Only have six up there right now,

(54:58):
so three of the seven would be number three. Why
not Daniel Jones but he was wearing eight. Which did
they give eight to the punter so to to wait
man or whatever? Yeah, that was the old Kenny Pickett numbers,
so eight might be available, but I'm not. I won't
be running out there on hell. And I got a
fanatic story too, but that'll be for another day. And

(55:19):
it wasn't through NFL shop. But boy are they the
worst service ever? Why did they run everyone's merchant stores
and shops and everything else? Nothing like be forced to
pay for next day shipping and get something a week
later and then the complained about oh a strong breeze
came through, so it's delayed for three days. It's like,
but that's a whole other story for a whole other

(55:40):
off air type thing. Thank you, my friend, for joining
me once again, a nice healthy conversation. Go for DK Metcalf,
Go get DK Metcalf, do it con d Go get.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
DK those two and then you can do whatever you
want in the first.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
What that'd be a lot, a lot a lot of money,
I'll tell you what. So Max Crosby just signed a
I'm looking at the wire here, So Steller's gonna want
to do something with t J. Watt sooner than later,
because Max Crosby just got a three year, one and

(56:17):
six and a half million dollar extension with ninety one
and a half million dollars guaranteed, so TJ is going
to require more than that. And Miles Garrett he's not
interested in talking with the Browns at all, but I imagine
if they throw a enough money at him, then that'll

(56:38):
be uh, that'll be the.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Sudden the when you hit that two hundred million number.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Right yeah. Yeah. By the way, Alex kapen to the Raiders.
Alex kappen to the Raiders too, because he was already
released and could sign with somebody. I wasn't necessarily saying
go get Alex Kappa, but if it was somebody, there's
a few veteran guards. Guards kind of grow on trees
a little more tackles do not. So just some housekeeping
here at the end for our two percenters, thank you

(57:04):
for joining us once again. If you have it already.
Two percenters are the people that are still here watching
all the way to the end. If you like what
you saw, like what you heard, please like, comment, subscribe,
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watching on YouTube. Next day on Spotify. That'll do it
for us today. My name is Joe once again the man,

(57:24):
Mister Brian E.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Roach.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Next week, free agency, real news, no more lies. We're
gonna get down to it. We're gonna see what Omar
Khan does with his nearly sixty million dollars, and we're
gonna find out if Steelers have themselves a quarterback. Till then,
we encourage everyone out there too. Until next time, encourage
everyone out there too, be safe, be good, and we'll
catch you later. We would like it thank you for listening,

(57:48):
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