July 12, 2025 • 60 mins
Lynn Woolley is joined by broadcaster and college professor Shane Curington to discuss how MAGA has changed the world – but almost didn’t. One year ago – July 13, 2024 – a would-be assassin’s bullet narrowly missed being a headshot to Donald Trump. Instead, it bloodied his right ear and may have added to the former President’s momentum, as he sped to victory against Kamala Harris. Had the bullet killed Trump, the world would be very different from where we are today regarding immigration, war, tariffs, taxes, the Epstein files, and even a deadly flood. Lynn and Shane discuss the state of the world and the big issues that might have had completely different outcomes, but for a fortuitous turn of the President’s head.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Planet Logic. Today's episode A Day That Changed
the World. My guest today Shane Keirrrington. We're going to
talk a little bit about what's going on in politics.
Of course, what's going on as of tomorrow as we record,
this will be the first anniversary of the assassination attempt
against President Trump. Shane Keerrington, you are a tech guy,
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a college professor teaching computer sciences. What else do people
need to know?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, first of all, I want I want to know
if the day that would change the world is that
referring to me being on your show.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
That remains to be seen. We'll see how high the
level of performance is here. But you know, I want
to get a little bit more of your bio for
people who don't know who you are. But if that
bullet had been a quarter of an inch different, we
wouldn't be living in the United States that we are
in right now. And you know, before we go into
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the big beautiful Bill or the response to the flood
in Kerville and all of that, we have to understand
if that guy had been successful, Kamala Harris could be president,
Joe Biden could be president. We don't know who would
be president.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, you know the way I describe it, describe it,
it's only by the grace of God that Donald Trump
is still with us today because he turned his head
at just the right.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Moment, precisely the right moment. It couldn't have been a second.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Later, exactly. If it were a second later, or you know,
or if he had tilted his head at a different
angle or something like that, he wouldn't be here right now.
Because that bullet was dead on.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And that's why I'm saying it changed. I started to
name the episode the day It changed America, But I
mean this assassination attempt and the fact that it failed,
and what that failed assassination attempt did to the election.
It probably assured Trump's victory.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Absolutely changed.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It changed everything.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
In fact, there was a staffer, one of one of
Trump's staffers, that said almost immediately after the assassination attempt,
they said that based on based on what was happening,
they basically said, we're going to win the election. It
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was coasting from the ass assassination attempt on.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
That's true, but I think he was going to win
it anyway. I think there were two major events, maybe three,
that decided this election. One was the assassination attempt. One
was uh, the debate performance that Joe Biden had where
he basically said, we finally did care whatever it was,
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and the fact that Kamala Harris was was made the
nominee in the way that it happened with them talking
about our democracy and they threw out democracy.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
They did they just had absolutely did not adhere to
any tenant of democracy.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
All right, now, a quick diversion from what we're talking about. Okay,
You and I got to know each other a long
time ago. Yes, when my syndicated radio show was circling
the drain and we were trying to say that and
a local person came in and bought the show from
the current owner I've never owned it myself. Bought the
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show and the equipment, and you came on as the
technical advisor. And as it turned out, which surprised me
to some extent, but I've known you for a long
time now. You were pretty up to date on politics yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Oh yeah, and you know what, we actually met before
then because I worked at k TIM as a board.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Op kt EM in Temple, Texas. Remember this podcast has
heard all around the world in many country.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I keep forgetting. I keep forgetting. But yeah, we met
when you were the morning guy and actually I came
in to do the Christmas Eve or whatever the night
and you were you were finishing up your show. And
that's when we actually first see that.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I was a big deal. You know, I was a
big deal, and you came in just you know, to
do the holidays.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, that's right, all right, I did, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So as things went on, finally I left to UH
to go do some other things. I was manager for
a full six months. Yeah, at CA and CTFM, and
you know what, I want to say something about that,
just for a moment. That's at Central Texas College and Colleen.
That was a cool job. It was. It was great,
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it paid well, it had great benefits. I loved the people.
I did not get. I did not get pounded with
the wokeness that you might expect at a college. I'm
sure some of it was there, but it didn't affect
me at all. And I only left because somebody offered
me a back in talk radio and I wasn't able
to do that kind of thing on you know, a
(05:05):
beautiful music, non commercial FM. Yeah, and I decided I
would try it, so I did, went to Waco. That
lasted three months, so I decided to retire. We had
COVID didn't come Yeah, that's right. Co. So COVID came
in and all that happened, and I decided I'm done
with this radio thing. I'll do a podcast, you know,
and that'll be that. And then I get a call
(05:27):
from Austin and I went to it. The morning radio
show in Austin with Jim Cardle seven to ten. On
the call letters are KJCEE. We don't use those much.
We call ourselves Talk thirteen seventy the Right Choice. And
we're on the internet at Talk thirteen seventy dot com
and we've just started a YouTube channel, so yeah, going
(05:50):
to be able to find segments of the program there,
you know, the ones where I make sense and I'm
lucid and Jim doesn't destroy my points, you know, or
I don't destroy his will we'll be showing up there
all right now. As for you, after I left you
and lou Anne, who I've done many podcasts with, started
something called Logic Nation, which grew into Patriot Radios. Yeah,
(06:14):
tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well what well, actually it was David Hodges.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
The late David Hodges and r I P. I'll tell
you I think about David and I missed the hell
out of here.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I know, me too, me too. He was a great guy,
but he he did him and lou Anne and I actually,
you know, got Logic Nation going, and then he left.
David left to do something else. I'm not sure what.
(06:46):
But then I had to do the show for like
two weeks. Yeah, so I I put I did my
best Limb Wooley impression.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Uh huh. I want to see that you have too
much hair.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
To do, and I know, I know I do, but
but yeah, I I you know, I learned from the
master for what seven years before before you moved on.
So uh. You and I got to do your show
many a time, with me doing the phone screening and
and you know, you bring me in occasionally and talk
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and and.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You know, some of the best friends I've ever ever
had came about with that show. Of course, you Shane
were one of them. We used to spend some nights
up there ordering pizza and tahitas while you were putting
in equipment. And yeah, I'm sitting there helping you do
the equipment. Basically it was is this the size wrench?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Hey, you know something funny. I still have one of
the comic you remember, the comics Trip about a firewall
that you put on my servers on. I still have that.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yes, the firewall causes all kind of hissery when it
was a little over zealous, you know, David Hodges, as
you mentioned, who I worked with it Tim and we
did we did some shows together. Mike Gallagher came to
town and we did a promotion with Mike. And then
of course lou Ann Anderson, who I still occasionally do
a podcast with. She's up in the Dallas area now.
(08:13):
And of course, you know, there is no more Ben Barrick. Unfortunately.
I hate to be the way to tell you, but
he has. He has put a stake in the heart
of Ben Barrick and now he's Todd Bowman full time,
which is he He used to radio name because he
thought it would help its privacy, I guess, But he's
decided to come out in his real name and he
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lives down in South Florida and I still do podcasts
with him occasionally. To Ben is a fabulous guy. You know,
so many people are named Mohammed in the Middle East
and he knows everyone from every other one. I've never
known a guy who knows a subject as well as
he knows the Middle East, so we always call him
when we're at that point. But you know, Lisa Ryles
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was another person we had. We just had a lot
of good people working on that show. Yeah, we dominated
the West Texas and the ratings in Central Texas. So
now you're a professor of computer sciences, is that right?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well, actually, when you were doing your show, I was
I was teaching. I was finishing up my master's degree
and then got into teaching. So yeah, I'm a professor
of computer science at Central Texas at Central Texas College,
right right.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Uh, well that's pretty cool and and a radio station.
And some people call you knowledgeable, some people call you
an expert, but I call you whenever anything.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I was waiting for that because you're the guy that
can come here and fix it, and you irritate me
to depth sometimes.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I mean because I click one button and it's fixed.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, it's like that. My friend Casey John's in Austin,
same thing, and Greg Hansen and Waco who are the
other two tech people I know, it's just you know, okay, Lynn,
just hit that button. There and you'll be fine. You know,
I've spent an hour trying to figure out what it
was you figuring I would destroy my entire hard drive.
(10:12):
But anyway, some of us are technical, some of us
are logical. All right, so you're neither.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Of fate.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
All right, let's get back to politics. You know again,
I guess something that just happened. I would I want
to mention without maybe going into it a whole lot,
but this this flood July the fourth, Yeah, Sad, I
texted you. Yes, I was at the parade in downtown Belton, Texas,
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which is close to where we live, and it's always
a beautiful parade, has two hundred entries, most of which
are are politically elected officials driving by, and I said,
what you doing for lunch? And you said, well, let's
have lunch. So we have lunch. We talked about a
few things that night. Those pressure little girls, I know,
we're swept away twenty seven of them. And what a
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hunt with the death told? Now is what one hundred
and six, one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, something like one hundred and twenty eight or something.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I don't know about you. I've been in this business
for most of my life. I'm a lifer in radio
either doing news, some disc jockey work during my life,
and podcasting, and it's still doing the morning radio show.
And it still got to me. I had nights I
couldn't sleep thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You know, I gotta I gotta tell you. I have
a seven year old, oh yeah, and he's about to
turn eight. And to read all the stories about six, seven, eight, nine,
even ten year olds getting swept up in the flood,
it made my.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Heart hurtink really did. And you know, now the retribution
comes back. Of course, the Texas Tribune, which is a
far left wing online newspaper, almost from day one was
talking about, you know how Kerk County votes Republican. Yeah,
and therefore they didn't want to spend the money for
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the sirens or whatever could have been an early warning.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
But in this particular aspect, would it have mattered twenty
six feet in forty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
This was not so much a flood as it was
a tsunami. Yes, this was like there had been a
major hurricane and it had gotten that ocean water boiling
and it came down in a thirty five foot wall.
It was very similar to that. I've never seen anything
like this in my career. Now, we had the flood
in Wimberley, We've had other floods, but those little girls
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didn't have a chance. No. Your thoughts on this though, Okay,
should they have had sirens? Should they have Should they
have not built Camp Mystic in the floodplain?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, here's here's my opinion on it. If if you're
going to build and I saw we're where most of
the cabins were built, they were built on the riverbed.
You know, they were built down by the river, right.
If you're going to build down there, sirens are no sirens.
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You need to have someone watching.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay, you mean somebody's staying up and not sleeping overnight
if there's any inkling of rain in the forecab pretty much. Yeah,
and this hindsight is really easy. I don't know. I
was touched by the fact that the camp director or
the guy who ran Camp Mystic died himself trying to
save those little girls. You know what if I turned
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a corner and there's a truck coming and I don't
see it, and I hit that truck and I, you know,
don't survive or I do survive, you know, for whoever's
still around, is going to say, if only he had
seen the truck, if only he had thought about there
being a truck there, if only he had turned right,
if only, if only, if only, in this particular case,
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the legislature of the state is going to probably vote
to send money down there to do something to keep
this from ever happening again, and maybe it can be stopped.
But I don't know. This one. Seemed like that wall
of water was insurmountable.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Well, unfortunately, hindsight's always twenty twenty. Indeed, you know, you
never actually know how bad something's going to be until
you can look at it in retrospect. But in this
particular instance, you can't really say that sirens would have helped,
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because you and I both know audio.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You know what we do. But you came up with
something a moment ago I had not thought of, nor
had I heard anybody else thinking what somebody sets up
overnight in those camps to make sure and to monitor
and to make sure. I mean, I know that would
be a pain. Say, but designates somebody to do that.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, well, I'm not saying do that every night, but
in this.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
But when there's any rain in the forecast.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Would life savers have helped or like like Jackjackets, I'm sorry,
Life Jacket.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Unfortunately, in this situation, because of how bad the flooding was,
I don't think it would have mattered. In some instances maybe,
but the majority, I don't think it would have mattered.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Well, well, watch what the legislature does. You know. I'm
going to use this to transition into something that bothers
me from the right and from the left, and that
is we're thirty what seven trillion dollars in debt?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yep, thirty six six.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah. Now wow, that's pretty impressive. Thank you, you're a professor.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Expect No, No, I watch it every day.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Well, you know, I go to that that clock online
and look at it.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Trump comes into office doing something that I critiqued him
strongly for not doing in his first four years prior
to Biden, and Biden didn't give a crap, you know,
I got to ask you. But Trump comes in and
he wants to do something about it. Every penny we cut, yes,
somebody's somebody's ox is gored, all right, every penny we cut.
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And the reason given for no warning system in Kerr
County was that the public didn't want to spend the money.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Well the county, Kerr County didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Want to spend didn't want to spend the money. But
that was after after having a reaction, you know, or
they surveyed, they surveyed the mood of the people. They
didn't want their taxes to go up.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Well, I can't. I can't say to blame them.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Well, I can't says I blame them either. But you
go back to this big, beautiful bill that we've got
going on, and Trump Trump is cutting There's a big
story in the papers this morning. State Department's going to
lose thirteen hundred people. All right, So does that hurt
our diplomatic efforts? Well it may. What what kind of
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a balance, Shane, do we have to have between trying
to get our fiscal house in order because civilizations have
crumbled over debt, Yes, all right, what kind of a
balance do we have to have about the pain it's
going to cause to certain people, maybe harm the country
in the way we saw the floods harm those little
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girls and the other people who died. How do we
reach a balance on this? How can we cut the
fat without hurting ourselves.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Well, it's the answer to your question is easy, but
the implementation of it is what's going to be hard.
All Right, The quick and easy answer is we have
to be smart. Okay. And all the nonsense of the
Biden years just really blows my mind. You talk about
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ballooning the national debt. He did it, Okay, he did it.
I mean they were they were spending money on DEI like,
it's going out of style. But we have to be
smart here, and I think Trump and he was vindicated.
You know in the last few days. Did you hear
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what happened in June? We actually had a monthly surplus.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Oh, that's cause of the tariffs. I know.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Imagine that charging someone else, charging others to use our
consumer market.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Well, that's that's true. And if you remember, the founders
of this country did not want an income tax. Yes,
in fact, was it nineteen sixteen when we got what
was it the thirteenth Amendment of the sixteenth I can't
remember what you want they put the income tax. The
New York Times into the New York Times, which was
a different paper in those days, said once the government
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gets its hand in your pocket, its hand is not
going to come out and they're right, and they're absolutely
right about that. So, you know, I look at my
own life and I think, when I'm paying my bills,
I'm thinking, now, which bill needs to be paid first?
And I'm thinking that might be the house payment? Yes,
Now what bill needs to be paid second? Well? Maybe
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the power bill?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Now what about taking a shower and uh, you know,
being able to being able to drink? Yeah, pay the
water bill? Are there things that have to be paid?
So if you start listing these things in your life,
you know, but then there's preventive maintenance. That's what I'm doing.
I do once a year for my body, I have
my blood drawn and I go see my doctor and
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he tells me where I'm screwing up and what I
need to do different I need. I go to the
dentist to have preventive maintenance on making sure my dental
care is there. As a country, what is in your
mind and thinking the whole time I'm asking you this
about about priorities for spending the amount of money that
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we bring in. What is the number one priority for
the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well, the one way that we differ from everyone else
is that we have states that also have to have
a budget, true, that also have to pitch in you know,
their dollars.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I think the way the way Trump is trying to
do most of his fiscal policy is he's trying to
get the states to do more, okay more, more priority
stuff like FEMA, because think about it, think about it
like this. I mean, Texas had a had a absolutely
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fabulous response. Okay, the state of Texas. True, I mean
they they got everyone that they possibly could down down
there to uh Kerrville, right county. But the problem is
it was you know, it was after the fact, yes, okay,
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So how do we how do we make it more?
How do we make have more preventative measures? Well is
the question.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
The nuclear stockpile comes to mind. But you know what,
we're very fortunate in America that we have an ocean
to the west, we have an ocean to the east,
and we have somewhat of an ocean to the south.
We have a first World country to the north of US,
and we have a third World country to the south
of US. So that's really not too bad to be in.
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But I think the country's first responsibilities protect our shores,
to repel invasions. Yes, but Biden did not think that
he opened up the southern border. We probably have Iranian
sleeper cells on our college campus.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
No, we do, well, we do. We do have Iranian
sleeper cells. It's already been reported. Okay, but they're trying
to kill Trump.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
They put what what is that? That's a fat Why
is it called a fat? Wah?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
But anyway, So, but but you're right, a country cannot
be a country without borders. And we've said that. I've
heard you say it a million times. I've said it
a million times. I've heard everyone say it a million times.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And we should have have the right to control who
comes in and out. I mean, we want immigration, don't we. Yeah,
we want to say, Okay, we've checked you. You don't
have a disease, you don't have tuberculosis or something like that,
and your criminal record looks good. You can come in
and work here, and here's your green card. Yeah, but
here's the Biden just opened it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, Biden just opened it. But here here's the problem
that we have. We have Democrats like Hakeem Jeffries and
Crockett and some of these other ones that are are
going around saying, well, you know in regards to the
big beautiful bill, well, we're gonna he's going to cut
millions off of medicaid. No, he's only going to cut
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the millions off of Medicaid that don't belong there. There's
there's that that caveat at the end that don't belong there.
I'm sorry, illegal aliens don't belong there. We is my opinion.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
No, I think that's exactly what they're trying to do. Look,
we can talk about illegal aliens, and I'm I'm going
to be one of the first to come in and
say that we need some of them, not the illegal aliens,
but we need some people in construction, in agriculture, in hospitality.
Those are the three categories. But they have got to
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come here legally. Yes, they have got to come with
a with a green card or something. And they have
got to not be able to get pregnant and have
an anchor baby exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
And that's and that's what's Trump. What Trump is trying
to do. He's trying to restructure the system. Whereas for
the last what you know, fifty hundred years, it's been
our system has been gained. There's an actual black market
for women to come to the cot come to our country,
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have their baby, and then that baby has automatic.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Citizenship, and then you can't deport the most Yeah, and
then you can't deport them. Then you bring in the
father and chain migration happens. That started under Lyndon Johnson
and Ted Kennedy exactly when they got together and said, well,
right now, I'm thinking about the sixties. Right now. In
the sixties, we have a situation where we have quotas,
we need so many farm workers, we need so many
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of this and that. And even when you're talking immigration,
sometimes you're talking about physicists, you know, our doctors, Ye,
people who are skill positions and people who are unskilled labored.
But getting Kennedy and Kennedy and Johnson change that to
a more compassionate thing, so that if we bring somebody over,
well you got to bring the wife, the kids, the aunts,
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the uncles, the grandmothers, the grandfathers. And that's what we
have today.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
But when you think about the way Trump is trying
to restructure everything, he's putting our borders first, he's making
it to where we don't have the influx of illegal immigrants,
and then all that other stuff can be worked out
after the fact.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
All right, a day that changed the world. Yes, if
Trump had been hit through the head, Yes, with that bullet,
where would we be on immigration?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
President Kamala.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
And open borders forever?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
You remember that there was another moment that may have
changed the world. I know it's your favorite program, Shane, Yes, waitsparage.
I'm talking about the view. Do you remember when she
went on and I think it was Farah what's her name? Yeah,
the names maybe it was joy Behar. Okay, if you've
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been president or you're you're wanting to be president, what
would you do different from Joe Biden?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I can't think of it. Single figure that killed her.
She was dead at that point, So that was on
from her side of the aisle. That was the key
moment for her. For Biden, the key moment was that debate.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
And then Trump nearly gets assassinated. Uh. It was almost
as if the hand of God was reaching in. I know.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well, that's the only explanation because if Trump would have
tilted his head at a different angle, not turned at
the right moment, he'd be dead.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
It's crazy. I want to mention something I planned to
post this podcast when we're done. Oh lord, I'm going
to put it up on wherever you get your podcast,
as the saying goes, you may have heard this, Yeah,
apparently some guy did a podcast with Kamala Harris and
after it was over, her handlers sat down with him
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and they mutually agreed that podcast should never be heard.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Oh yeah, I heard that. The podcast so bad.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
He said, I didn't want to be the one who
kept her from winning the election, but apparently she couldn't
answer anything. She made foolish statements. You know, we're going
to go to lunch maybe here in a while. Yeah,
you're going to have a word salad before you before
you have your steak. Can you imagine somebody with her
communication skills. I didn't know the term word salad before her.
(27:37):
Oh yeah, but a word salad, if I'm understanding it right,
is like you put a lot of lettuce in a salad.
Put She'll take one or two words that she's using
as a crutch, is what I'm trying to say, and
repeat him over and over. You know, when you think
about the passage of time and how the passage of
time affects us, well, the passage of time, this is
(27:57):
a word salad let me ask you this. Trump said
the other day, he's kind of pissed off at Vladimir Putin.
Can you imagine can you imagine any kind of a
statement from Kamala Harris that would have been stilled fear
into any of our geopolitical adversaries?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
No, not one.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Can you imagine when Biden said, don't don't well, you know,
and what does Trump do? He takes out the nuclear Yeah,
I know, the nuclear powers over there of Iran. By
taking out there what do they call centrifuge.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think Obama even said anything that
would have put the fear of God in.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
No, but Obama bombed the hell out of everybody. Yeah,
for ten years, there was twenty six thousand bombing strikes
ordered by Obama. If I remember my Google AI search
right in a single year.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
But then he is but then he and Biden constantly
we're giving money to Iran.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, it's almost like it's almost like with Obama you
could never tell which side he was on, because he
sends a pallette of money to Iran, right and just
drops it at their doorstep. Yeah, and the dead of Knight,
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and then you have you have Biden as vice president
basically telling them to fire the prosecutor to keep to
keep him from being investigated.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And I know he got fired, he got fired. Obama
say about it.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
And then you have that red line with Syria that
never transpired.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
That was Obama's Yeah, that was Obama. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I was thinking about that too. You know, I don't know.
The Trump comes Trump comes off of four years yep,
with no new wars. Yep. All right. Biden comes in.
He gets asked at a news conference, m what would
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you do if Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine. Biden's answer is, well,
I don't know, it would depend on how far and
you know how serious the incursions were, and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Parton takes this as the Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I know, and see I'm thinking, and I'm thinking, are
you serious? Does it really matter? One inch inside of
their border is an incursion?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah? I would have said the consequences will be significant,
it will be terrible, and we will act immediately. If
he does that, that would have stopped it. He didn't
do it under Trump.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
He didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Trump comes in and he's got this war going on
that was started by October the seventh in gods, and
he's also got the Ukraine War going on. And he
thought that by talking nice a little bit the time
of time about Putin, he was going to be able
to just call up call, make a phone call and
get Putin to pull out of Ukraine. And that hasn't happened,
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and now Trump is not happy about it. He basically
has neutered Iran and he got a ceasefire in that war.
So now we still have what's going on in Gaza,
and we still have what's going on in Ukraine. The
day that changed the world. Without Trump, these wars, who
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knows what would have happened with Harris. What do you
think Trump can do about those those two remaining wars.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Well, here's my theory. If as far as hamas in Gaza, right,
let Israel take care of that. You know, it's kind
of like the Iran thing. Israel did most of the bombing.
We come in and drop a few on on a
couple of spots. Yeah, yeah, the bunker busters because no
one else has those. Okay, fine, we helped, But I
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would let Israel handle Gaza. I would. I would seriously
just let him do it.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Oh, I think that's what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, And then as far as Ukraine goes, eventually Trump
is going to get mad enough at Vladimir Putin where
he's going to drop a bunker buster on Moss.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Well, look, you like Lindsey Graham or you don't. There
are people who do and people who don't. He's been
in office a long time, but he's put a bill
up and essentially I haven't read the bill, but one
aspect of the bill that he's put there, and Trump
says he's looking at it and may may sign it
if it gets to his desk. Would put a get this,
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a five hundred percent tariff on goods coming in from
any country that that that accepts energy from Russia.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
That would be hilarious.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
That would hit that would hit Germany very hard.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, and you you know what and
rightfully so. And as far as tariffs go, everyone knows
Trump is serious about tariffs. So if there if a
bill comes up, you know, along those lines, it would
behoove anyone watching to take note of that.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Well, that's true. I want to talk about tariffs for
just a minute. I've never been a fan of them.
Trump is so far proved me wrong on a couple
of things. But you know, we still don't say that again. No,
but I mean we'll still have to wait and see
what happens. Yeah, but here's my problem. Okay, I'm sure
you know who Heraldo Rivera is. Yes, and he's a
little bit to the left center, but he's not a
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dumb ass like you see on MSNBC. He comes on
News Nation, which is where he is. I've been watching
a lot of that network. It's excellent.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Haraldo Rivera comes on and he says, well, I just
got back from a two week vacation in Japan. And
it was Cuomo or Vedit or one of those guys said, well,
what stood out to you over there? He says, well,
what stood out to me was I was over there
the whole time I was in the big cities. Everywhere
I went, I did not see a single Japanese person
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driving an American made car. There were no Chevrolets, there
were no Buicks, there were no Fords, nothing made in America.
And yet you can't drive around the block, especially where
I work in Austin, or in Temple, Texas, or Waco, Texas,
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or Dallas or anywhere else, you're gonna see foreign cars
lined up like crazy. Every time you stop at a
red light. I look around and I see how many Hondas, Toyotas,
Nissans all that there are. They're everywhere. We can't sell
our cars there, but they sell their cars here. This
is what I'd like to see Trump fix is accessibility
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to these markets for American made products.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, and that's what he's trying to do, Like, for example, Canada,
he threatened Canada with a thirty five percent tariff if
they didn't stop the fensonyl flow and get this and
let let dairy farmers sell their product.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah yeah, the milk thing. Yeah yeah, that's that's that's true.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
So he's trying to fix and.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
The intellectual theft of our property.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Don't give me start on China. Oh good lord, he
needs to. He needs to put the screws to time
to China so bad that China's economy basically falls.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
China's economy is not in good shape. You know, I
want your response to a statement I'm gonna make here,
all right. When Trump decided that he would go ahead
and bomb those Iranian nuke signs, I worried as did
a lot of other people. It's just going to start
World War three, because World War three will probably if
it ever happens, will probably start in the Middle East.
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And yet I think it is the I think it
is the weakness of Russia and China right now that
they didn't do anything. Yeah, China's economy is in the tank.
They would love to invade Taiwan. They would have loved
to while Biden was president. I don't I don't think
they felt like they could make it work. And Putin
has lost so many soldiers, his stockpile has got to
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be down. He's being helped by North Korea, by China.
But our two biggest and most powerful largest countries that
oppose US, China and Russia, aren't in much of a
position to help Iran right now, are to probably help
North Korea.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
No, you know, regardless of what people say, we are
the you know, we are the superpower of the world
by far, and we're alone at the top. And now now, yeah,
does China own a bunch of our debt? Yeah? Could they?
(36:59):
Could they hurt us economically, yeah? Probably, But at the
same time, there is we we could also hurt them,
because China depends on the American consumer market in order
for its economy to survive. You take away the United
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States consumer market, China dies.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
All right, you're a tech guy. I'm gonna ask you
some tech questions. Okay, this little Macintosh laptop that we're
using to record this, is that made in America?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Probably? Not?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Where was it? Probably? Well? What's a little boxy looking
thing you've got sitting there? Oh?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
My iPhone?
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah? Your iPhone? Where was that made?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
What? What usually happens is that the parts are made
overseas somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
We assemble them here, and then we assemble them here,
and then they're saying proud American, Yeah exactly, not made
in USA, because they really weren't. All right, Shane, what
you know about technology, huh?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Is?
Speaker 1 (37:59):
You know is up here way high like the floodwaters,
And what I know is like like the dried up creek.
Will we ever make cell phones in America? Totally start
to finish rare earth elements and everything?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
It depends. It depends, you know, that's that's a lawyer's
favorite term, right, you know, it depends. It depends on
how China does or how how Trump does with the tariffs.
He is trying to get Samsung and some of these
other companies to bring their iPhone market or their mobile
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phone market here.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Samsung is big in tailor, yeah, Texas right now where
they're they're building big all right, what would all right?
My phone? I'm trying to remember what I paid for it,
but I think it was over a grand. Yeah, And
the minute I paid it off, I started getting messages
about upbreaking, upgrade.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
But let's say a phone cost one thousand dollars. Okay,
what would it call that same phone? Nothing different except
it was totally made in the United States, probably by
union labor.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
What would that keep the phone cost up?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It might kick it up a couple hundred bucks, but
that's that's about it. Ever, all the prognosticators who are saying, oh,
our economy is going to die if you know, if
we manufacture everything here, because the cost of everything's going
to be so high. Now actually, because when you take
out the cost of having to freight it overseas, right,
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because that's what they do. They put on a you know,
a freight tanker and you know, get to get it
over here.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
And there may be tariffs on it.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Exactly, and and there may be tariffs on it. But
the tariffs over here, if you manufacture here, are going
to be zero. Plus your shipping is going to be
a lot less. So when when you balance everything out,
and that's the key, is balanced, When you balance everything out,
it's not nearly going to be as detrimental as is
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what everyone says it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Well, that's probably true. I want to ask you to
prognosticate a little bit. Okay, all right, Immigration, we're having
the big problems. Karen Bass, mayor of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Don't get me started.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, geez, I'm gonna get you started. They're firing shots
at immigration ICE agents. Yes home and Tom Holman I
bet I've interviewed him live three or four times in
the same room with him in DC. Yeah, and on
the phone maybe two dozen times. And he's serious about
(40:43):
this good. But the left is charging you know that
there's no compassion workers that we need or being deported.
How does this end up?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Well, let me let me ask you this. Should there
be compassion for those that break our law? First thing,
before they do anything else, they break our law?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, this is what I'm saying. I wrote a column
recently called if we had a function in Congress, we
could have a functioning immigration system exactly. I think we
need guest worker programs, but I want the people vetted,
and I want them. Everybody says, well, you're showing papers.
Sounds like Hitler. No it doesn't. If you're somebody that
doesn't speak a word of English and you're working in
a hotel, you're probably in here illegally.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I would like for that sweet lady in most cases
who's making my bed to be able to say no,
I am in America because I followed your rules and
I came here to work. That would be great, But
Democrats and Republicans fight over this issue. My guess is
that the amount of time it would take to fix
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it in Congress is about two hours, oh less than that,
But they won't do it. Well, well, it's like I
sit here to write a bill in ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Hey, it's like what Trump said, right, you didn't need
you didn't need a bill coming through Congress. All you
needed was a different president.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Well that's absolutely fat. When we found that out. All right,
how does the big beautiful bill work out? And I'll
embellish that question by seeing the Democrats say it's the
end of the world. People are gonna kicked off be
kicked off of Medicaid. Rural hospitals are going to close down,
people are going to go hungry. A spoon or a
fork that is halfway into a child's mouth with food
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on it is going to be yanked out of that
child's mouth. It's going And the Republicans say, boy, this
is the greatest bill for the people because the taxes
are gonna be kept as low as they are now.
It's going to put more money in people's pockets. No
tax on tips. Blah blah blah. How does this pan
out between say, now and the midterm elections?
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Okay, so we still have what a year and a
half or something till the midterms something like that. Okay,
So what's gonna what's going to happen is the big
beautiful bill is going to I don't want to say,
hurt blue states, but what it's going to do, it's
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going to cause them to come into line with most
American values. I mean, the there was a recent poll
out that said, I think it was fifty six to
sixty percent of you know, citizens want every illegal alien deported.
(43:31):
All right, that's not me saying that that's a poll
that came out. Okay, so that's what the American people want.
And what what what really astounds me is that everything
that the American people want in these blue states, it's
falling on deaf ears and and I mean you got
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Maine and the and the whole title title nine thing, right.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Oh yeah, with the girls with the girls sports.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Well you have that same thing going out in California.
That's an eighty twenty issue.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
You know, Novak Djokovic got beat in straight sets by
Yahnique Center earlier this week. I think next year he
ought to play in the women's division.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, why not? Shoot, I mean it's happening all over
the country. Why not.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, that's some of the craziness. You know. I've thought
and have written columns on this too at wb Daily
dot com that the Democrats insane positions or what has
hurt them so bad?
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Well, you're right, all these eighty twenty issues have hurt
the Democrats because normal Americans don't think just using the
girls sports thing for an example, normal Americans eighty percent
or more don't think that if you're born a male,
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you should be competing in women's sport.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
You know, what. I don't think the LGB community is
all that thrilled with the key part of it.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Oh, they're not either.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
I mean, look, I've long given up the idea that
that there's not going to be gay people, and fine,
I've come to accept it to a certain extent. There
are there are, There are homosexual people in the world,
and I don't know whether they can do anything about
it or not. The transgender part, I will never ever
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ever go there.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Well, you know, just like you and I used to
talk on your show. You know, we don't care who
you like or who you love or whatever, as long
as you do it in the privacy of your own home.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
True. But I'm not for gay marriage. I am for
gay civil unions. But marriage isn't ordained of God. Well,
I get and I think that a legal joining where
they have every and I'm not talking about they as
being some some terrible group of people. As I say,
I can accept, I can accept it even though I
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don't understand it. Yeah, I mean, as a male, the
joys of of being with a woman are unparalleled to me,
but especially when you have a beautiful one like yeah, okay,
but but I just think this this idea and I'm
going to tell you I have inside knowledge of this
because of people I know. A lot of hospitals love
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this transgender stuff because it makes a ton Oh.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
It does make a ton of money. I read I
read a study I guess it was last year or something. Uh,
and it and it was saying that all these transgender
surgeries because they were approved under the Biden administration, that
that you know, all these surgeries, they they got paid
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for by the governments.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
And and then you have the transgender and the military
and and all that stuff. I mean, now it's gone,
but you know, the military was paying for all these
transgender surgeries as well for some of their combat.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
All right, let's do one last subject here, But I've
saved one of the most entertaining for last. Shane Keirrington
College professor, raconteur, a man about town, radio station owner
in a small market and all that. Yeah, what do
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you make of the fact that Trump berated a reporter
and then Pam BONDI said, client lists, Jeffrey Epstein, client Listen,
We don't need no stinking client lists. I just just
yesterday wrote a long column about that and posted it.
(47:53):
And I'm sure you haven't had a chance to read
it yet, although I know you read those really quickly.
Oh yes, what in the hell is going on?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Well, didn't didn't didn't Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi having
that little scuffle right now? Yeah, that's what I was,
That's what I was thinking. But you know what, if
if he has a client list, you know, fine, it
needs to be released or whatever. But if he doesn't
have a client list, then just let it go.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
But here's where I am on this. Okay, don't freaking
lie to me. Yeah, all right. I love Trump. I've
never been a big Bondi fan. I've been ambivalent about Bongino.
I thought his talents don't lie in the talk show industry.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
I think Clay and Buck are at that time period
are fairly dominant. And there's a reason for that, not
that that Bongino was bad at it. He's not well
who is I know, I mean, who is rush? That
we should do a podcast about who will should replace him?
That would be a good one. But here, here's where
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I'm coming from. I mean, and I wrote the article
so you can read it at wb Daily dot com.
It's called It's entitled why can't we see the Jeffrey
Epstein client list? But do you want to Well, it's
not so much that it's if they're not releasing it,
assuming it does exist and we know there's files, Yeah,
there's maybe not a client list, maybe there's files. There
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is a reason. So I speculate, what is the reason.
Why would Trump say I promised to release it. Bongino
on his radio show, We're going to release it. We're
going to get to the bottom of it. Bondy, that's
sitting on my desk and we're going to release it.
Cash but tail, We're going to release it, and then
they don't. So something is different when you see what's
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in the file. But did you from what you and
I are able to say.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Okay, but did you hear how Bondi caveat in her
statement after the fact.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Oh it was called spin.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Well, yeah, I was saying.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
I meant that there were files on my desk. There's
no client list. No, she was asked specifically about the
client list. So she's lying now, And you know, I
like it. I don't like it when the left lies
to me. I don't less when the right lies to me.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
My personal opinion on the matter is I don't care.
That's my personal opinion. Why because this was so many
years ago, just let it go. He's dead.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah, well so's Lee Harvey Oswald. I know, you know,
I don't know. I think the problem that I have
with it, yeah, is there's obviously some reason not to release.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah, what is the obfuscation? Is my question?
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Well? What bothers me? And this is people who are
not in office mouthing off and when they get an office,
they find their hands are a little more tied. You know.
Maybe I'll tell you this. We haven't said the F
word once on this podcast. We can all we want to, yea,
But why wouldn't Well, because it's not covered by FCC rules.
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I can't say that. I can't say that on a
radio show. Or it's fine. Oh yeah, as you know,
as you well know, Joe Rogan likes the word. He
says it a lot. Tucker Carlson uses it on his podcast.
Everybody does. I choose not to do it because I
don't think it's necessary. That's right, all right, But when
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you go on a podcast, or you go on a
radio show, or you're in a news conference, or you're
making promises in a campaign, don't over promise. That's because
you end up with egg on your face. This Maga thing,
this Epstein thing, some people think it's big enough that
it could seriously harm Trump's presidents.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Well, supposedly Trump was on the list, Clinton was on
the list, Obama was on the list.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
I mean, but now they're saying there really wasn't any
crime committed yet Gallaine Maxwell is serving time.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
I know.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
So what the hell is this about? Here's what I
think happened, Okay, I mean, and again it's wild imagination speculation.
I've listened to podcasts on it, I've read about it.
Somehow somewhere, probably Epstein was involved as an asset for
some agency. The one I would probably think is the CIA. Now,
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what better way to gain more assets than to take
people that you want to be able to get information
out of and have them involved with the little girls
and then threaten them and use that to get what
you want out of them. If that list comes out,
that's all over. Now that may be so far off
base that it's on another planet, But I don't know.
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I'm trying to think there's something in those files. Trump
looked at him, Bongino. I think is trying to protect
his brand. His brand and my brand is I'm the
secretary of logic, right, I'm logical, I'm common sensical. Bongino's
brand is twofold. I have been on the inside. I
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know how it works, and I will tell you stuff.
I will be a straight shooter. His brand is in danger.
People are saying, how did they get to Dan Bongino?
So how did they get to Trump? And how did
they get to Bondy and how did they get to
Cash Pattel. I mean, there's there's some reason not to
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release those and I think the reason is so sensitive
that they can't even tell us that.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Well, here's here's my question. Because Cash Pattel and Dan
Bongino want the files released, true, okay, or they.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Did before they got back into office.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Yeah, why is Bondie sitting on them? Bondy, in my
in my thought process, would not have been involved in
any of this.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Do you think there has been a meeting in the
Oval office with uh, the President, Bondi, Patel and maybe
even Bongino although he's only a deputy director. Probably probably
just those three said well, let's release these things, and
Bondi says, gosh, I've looked at him. There's there's problems,
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and Patel says, yeah, there's things in there that are
really super sensitive. I don't know what they could be
if they're not what I said earlier. But how how
much damage can this do to Trump? And will it
blow over? And will will Bondy, Patel and Bongino survive it.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
I don't think there's anything in it that could possibly
hurt Trump as bad as what people think. Did Trump
know Epstein?
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Did he fly around on his planes or whatever?
Speaker 1 (55:02):
The lolita yeah, lolita express? And did Trump or Bill
Clinton or anybody else do anything naughty?
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Well, that's young girls. Well that's the question. It comes
to what level of of you know, association with Epstein
you're talking to.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
Yeah, if you're pedophilia, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
If you're talking about the massive depravity of pedophilia, I
don't think Trump was involved in that. If you're talking hope,
if you're talking about did he know Epstein? Did he
fly on his plane or go to his house for
dinner or something? Yeah? Probably because Epstein was one of
those powerful individuals.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
All right, let's wrap this up. I'll ask you some
personal questions.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
You're hungry aren't you.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
Well, no, I just want to delve into all right,
you are the owner of k clw YES in a
small town, Hamilton, Hamilton, a cute, little, cute little town.
If you're headed out toward Lubbock and Amarillo, yeah, you'll
pass through it. You took a bad lightning strike during
one of the storms. Lord, are you going to be
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able to get this station back on?
Speaker 2 (56:15):
Well that well, it wasn't just one bad lightning storm. Okay.
So last year, okay, in twenty twenty four, all right,
so I counted all the incidents. Okay, the tower. Now
keep in mind the tower that we went on and
the tower is down. Okay, we had to take down
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the tower. But the tower was like sixty years old.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
Okay, so you got to find another tower.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
So I have to find another tower. But the old
tower it froze twice last year in January, and it
was like frozen for like three days at a time
until it thawed. Right, And in Texas, that's saying something
because you know, how often does the freezer in Texas?
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Welcome to the world ownership, I know.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
So the tower froze twice and then we had a
bad wind and lightning storm the following April mayish timeframe,
and that blew out the primary transmitter, so I hooked
up the secondary transmitter. And then we had another lightning
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strike and I think I had to get that repaired,
and then because it wasn't as bad, but it was
still bad enough. And then the final lightning strike was
in the first part of November where it blew out
the backup transmitter too.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
So are there any deals online like by a transmitter,
get one free? I mean, I buy eggs by the dozen.
It sounds like you need transmitters.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
Well with that old tower, I did, but now I'm
I think what we're going to do is get on
the county tower, hoping that works out. I don't know
what the cost is going to be or anything like that,
but here's hoping.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
Now if it comes back on the Lynn Wooly Shane
Carrington podcasts should be run in prime time.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Heck yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
All right now. Patriot Network, What what happened with Patriot Network?
Speaker 2 (58:13):
Okay, so Patriot Radio Network that was the the successor
to Logic Nation. Yes, okay, so what happened is we
were we were going along and I thought I thought
we were kind of growing. We were getting involved with
the Bell County Republican Party and the coriel and and
(58:34):
some of the other ones, even the Hamilton County one.
Because what what I was doing is, I was we
uh we were broadcasting on News Radio fourteen n k EM,
and I was I was simultaneously sending it to k CLW,
So we were on two stations at once, and I
thought we were growing and all that stuff. Well, uh,
(58:55):
k Tim all of a sudden, al the blue on
a Thursday sends me an email going, hey, you know,
the last day of the of the show broadcast is
going to be tomorrow, and so I was, you know,
it kind of surprised me. But the next day we
signed off the show and that was the end of.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
Patriot Radio Network. Well maybe it will come back one
of these days. But in the meantime, we have Planet
Logic that's right now, and so we'll do this again.
Speaker 2 (59:25):
How about I had fun?
Speaker 1 (59:27):
All right? Shane Currington, Technical wizard, extraordinaire, broadcast entrepreneur, college professor.
What have you not done?
Speaker 2 (59:40):
I don't know. I've been a movie theater general manager,
a call center rep. I've done a lot in my
old age.
Speaker 1 (59:48):
Oh my goodness. All right, well we'll talk some more
politics here on Planet Logic, and thanks for being with us.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
Thank you, Lynn.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
All right, a day that changed the world. All the
stuff we talked about would have been totally different had
that bullet been about a quarter of an inch to
the right one year ago as we speak, Shane Kerrington,
thank you very much. My name is Lynn Woolly. My
website is wbdaily dot com. You'll find all my columns there.
(01:00:15):
Check out the Cardle and Wooly Show Talk thirteen seventy
dot com, or if you're in the Austin area, thirteen
seventy on your AM dial. All right, be logical everybody,
and thank you for joining us here on Planet Logic.
Welcome to Planet Logic. Today's episode A Day That Changed
the World. My guest today Shane Keirrrington. We're going to
talk a little bit about what's going on in politics.
Of course, what's going on as of tomorrow as we record,
this will be the first anniversary of the assassination attempt
against President Trump. Shane Keerrington, you are a tech guy,
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a college professor teaching computer sciences. What else do people
need to know?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, first of all, I want I want to know
if the day that would change the world is that
referring to me being on your show.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
That remains to be seen. We'll see how high the
level of performance is here. But you know, I want
to get a little bit more of your bio for
people who don't know who you are. But if that
bullet had been a quarter of an inch different, we
wouldn't be living in the United States that we are
in right now. And you know, before we go into
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the big beautiful Bill or the response to the flood
in Kerville and all of that, we have to understand
if that guy had been successful, Kamala Harris could be president,
Joe Biden could be president. We don't know who would
be president.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, you know the way I describe it, describe it,
it's only by the grace of God that Donald Trump
is still with us today because he turned his head
at just the right.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Moment, precisely the right moment. It couldn't have been a second.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Later, exactly. If it were a second later, or you know,
or if he had tilted his head at a different
angle or something like that, he wouldn't be here right now.
Because that bullet was dead on.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And that's why I'm saying it changed. I started to
name the episode the day It changed America, But I
mean this assassination attempt and the fact that it failed,
and what that failed assassination attempt did to the election.
It probably assured Trump's victory.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Absolutely changed.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It changed everything.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
In fact, there was a staffer, one of one of
Trump's staffers, that said almost immediately after the assassination attempt,
they said that based on based on what was happening,
they basically said, we're going to win the election. It
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was coasting from the ass assassination attempt on.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
That's true, but I think he was going to win
it anyway. I think there were two major events, maybe three,
that decided this election. One was the assassination attempt. One
was uh, the debate performance that Joe Biden had where
he basically said, we finally did care whatever it was,
(02:47):
and the fact that Kamala Harris was was made the
nominee in the way that it happened with them talking
about our democracy and they threw out democracy.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
They did they just had absolutely did not adhere to
any tenant of democracy.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
All right, now, a quick diversion from what we're talking about. Okay,
You and I got to know each other a long
time ago. Yes, when my syndicated radio show was circling
the drain and we were trying to say that and
a local person came in and bought the show from
the current owner I've never owned it myself. Bought the
(03:27):
show and the equipment, and you came on as the
technical advisor. And as it turned out, which surprised me
to some extent, but I've known you for a long
time now. You were pretty up to date on politics yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Oh yeah, and you know what, we actually met before
then because I worked at k TIM as a board.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Op kt EM in Temple, Texas. Remember this podcast has
heard all around the world in many country.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I keep forgetting. I keep forgetting. But yeah, we met
when you were the morning guy and actually I came
in to do the Christmas Eve or whatever the night
and you were you were finishing up your show. And
that's when we actually first see that.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I was a big deal. You know, I was a
big deal, and you came in just you know, to
do the holidays.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, that's right, all right, I did, all right.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So as things went on, finally I left to UH
to go do some other things. I was manager for
a full six months. Yeah, at CA and CTFM, and
you know what, I want to say something about that,
just for a moment. That's at Central Texas College and Colleen.
That was a cool job. It was. It was great,
(04:43):
it paid well, it had great benefits. I loved the people.
I did not get. I did not get pounded with
the wokeness that you might expect at a college. I'm
sure some of it was there, but it didn't affect
me at all. And I only left because somebody offered
me a back in talk radio and I wasn't able
to do that kind of thing on you know, a
(05:05):
beautiful music, non commercial FM. Yeah, and I decided I
would try it, so I did, went to Waco. That
lasted three months, so I decided to retire. We had
COVID didn't come Yeah, that's right. Co. So COVID came
in and all that happened, and I decided I'm done
with this radio thing. I'll do a podcast, you know,
and that'll be that. And then I get a call
(05:27):
from Austin and I went to it. The morning radio
show in Austin with Jim Cardle seven to ten. On
the call letters are KJCEE. We don't use those much.
We call ourselves Talk thirteen seventy the Right Choice. And
we're on the internet at Talk thirteen seventy dot com
and we've just started a YouTube channel, so yeah, going
(05:50):
to be able to find segments of the program there,
you know, the ones where I make sense and I'm
lucid and Jim doesn't destroy my points, you know, or
I don't destroy his will we'll be showing up there
all right now. As for you, after I left you
and lou Anne, who I've done many podcasts with, started
something called Logic Nation, which grew into Patriot Radios. Yeah,
(06:14):
tell us about that.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well what well, actually it was David Hodges.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
The late David Hodges and r I P. I'll tell
you I think about David and I missed the hell
out of here.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I know, me too, me too. He was a great guy,
but he he did him and lou Anne and I actually,
you know, got Logic Nation going, and then he left.
David left to do something else. I'm not sure what.
(06:46):
But then I had to do the show for like
two weeks. Yeah, so I I put I did my
best Limb Wooley impression.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Uh huh. I want to see that you have too
much hair.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
To do, and I know, I know I do, but
but yeah, I I you know, I learned from the
master for what seven years before before you moved on.
So uh. You and I got to do your show
many a time, with me doing the phone screening and
and you know, you bring me in occasionally and talk
(07:21):
and and.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You know, some of the best friends I've ever ever
had came about with that show. Of course, you Shane
were one of them. We used to spend some nights
up there ordering pizza and tahitas while you were putting
in equipment. And yeah, I'm sitting there helping you do
the equipment. Basically it was is this the size wrench?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Hey, you know something funny. I still have one of
the comic you remember, the comics Trip about a firewall
that you put on my servers on. I still have that.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yes, the firewall causes all kind of hissery when it
was a little over zealous, you know, David Hodges, as
you mentioned, who I worked with it Tim and we
did we did some shows together. Mike Gallagher came to
town and we did a promotion with Mike. And then
of course lou Ann Anderson, who I still occasionally do
a podcast with. She's up in the Dallas area now.
(08:13):
And of course, you know, there is no more Ben Barrick. Unfortunately.
I hate to be the way to tell you, but
he has. He has put a stake in the heart
of Ben Barrick and now he's Todd Bowman full time,
which is he He used to radio name because he
thought it would help its privacy, I guess, But he's
decided to come out in his real name and he
(08:36):
lives down in South Florida and I still do podcasts
with him occasionally. To Ben is a fabulous guy. You know,
so many people are named Mohammed in the Middle East
and he knows everyone from every other one. I've never
known a guy who knows a subject as well as
he knows the Middle East, so we always call him
when we're at that point. But you know, Lisa Ryles
(08:57):
was another person we had. We just had a lot
of good people working on that show. Yeah, we dominated
the West Texas and the ratings in Central Texas. So
now you're a professor of computer sciences, is that right?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Well, actually, when you were doing your show, I was
I was teaching. I was finishing up my master's degree
and then got into teaching. So yeah, I'm a professor
of computer science at Central Texas at Central Texas College,
right right.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Uh, well that's pretty cool and and a radio station.
And some people call you knowledgeable, some people call you
an expert, but I call you whenever anything.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I was waiting for that because you're the guy that
can come here and fix it, and you irritate me
to depth sometimes.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I mean because I click one button and it's fixed.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, it's like that. My friend Casey John's in Austin,
same thing, and Greg Hansen and Waco who are the
other two tech people I know, it's just you know, okay, Lynn,
just hit that button. There and you'll be fine. You know,
I've spent an hour trying to figure out what it
was you figuring I would destroy my entire hard drive.
(10:12):
But anyway, some of us are technical, some of us
are logical. All right, so you're neither.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Of fate.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
All right, let's get back to politics. You know again,
I guess something that just happened. I would I want
to mention without maybe going into it a whole lot,
but this this flood July the fourth, Yeah, Sad, I
texted you. Yes, I was at the parade in downtown Belton, Texas,
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which is close to where we live, and it's always
a beautiful parade, has two hundred entries, most of which
are are politically elected officials driving by, and I said,
what you doing for lunch? And you said, well, let's
have lunch. So we have lunch. We talked about a
few things that night. Those pressure little girls, I know,
we're swept away twenty seven of them. And what a
(11:04):
hunt with the death told? Now is what one hundred
and six, one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, something like one hundred and twenty eight or something.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I don't know about you. I've been in this business
for most of my life. I'm a lifer in radio
either doing news, some disc jockey work during my life,
and podcasting, and it's still doing the morning radio show.
And it still got to me. I had nights I
couldn't sleep thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
You know, I gotta I gotta tell you. I have
a seven year old, oh yeah, and he's about to
turn eight. And to read all the stories about six, seven, eight, nine,
even ten year olds getting swept up in the flood,
it made my.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Heart hurtink really did. And you know, now the retribution
comes back. Of course, the Texas Tribune, which is a
far left wing online newspaper, almost from day one was
talking about, you know how Kerk County votes Republican. Yeah,
and therefore they didn't want to spend the money for
(12:05):
the sirens or whatever could have been an early warning.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
But in this particular aspect, would it have mattered twenty
six feet in forty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
This was not so much a flood as it was
a tsunami. Yes, this was like there had been a
major hurricane and it had gotten that ocean water boiling
and it came down in a thirty five foot wall.
It was very similar to that. I've never seen anything
like this in my career. Now, we had the flood
in Wimberley, We've had other floods, but those little girls
(12:39):
didn't have a chance. No. Your thoughts on this though, Okay,
should they have had sirens? Should they have Should they
have not built Camp Mystic in the floodplain?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, here's here's my opinion on it. If if you're
going to build and I saw we're where most of
the cabins were built, they were built on the riverbed.
You know, they were built down by the river, right.
If you're going to build down there, sirens are no sirens.
(13:12):
You need to have someone watching.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Okay, you mean somebody's staying up and not sleeping overnight
if there's any inkling of rain in the forecab pretty much. Yeah,
and this hindsight is really easy. I don't know. I
was touched by the fact that the camp director or
the guy who ran Camp Mystic died himself trying to
save those little girls. You know what if I turned
(13:37):
a corner and there's a truck coming and I don't
see it, and I hit that truck and I, you know,
don't survive or I do survive, you know, for whoever's
still around, is going to say, if only he had
seen the truck, if only he had thought about there
being a truck there, if only he had turned right,
if only, if only, if only, in this particular case,
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the legislature of the state is going to probably vote
to send money down there to do something to keep
this from ever happening again, and maybe it can be stopped.
But I don't know. This one. Seemed like that wall
of water was insurmountable.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Well, unfortunately, hindsight's always twenty twenty. Indeed, you know, you
never actually know how bad something's going to be until
you can look at it in retrospect. But in this
particular instance, you can't really say that sirens would have helped,
(14:38):
because you and I both know audio.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
You know what we do. But you came up with
something a moment ago I had not thought of, nor
had I heard anybody else thinking what somebody sets up
overnight in those camps to make sure and to monitor
and to make sure. I mean, I know that would
be a pain. Say, but designates somebody to do that.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, well, I'm not saying do that every night, but
in this.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
But when there's any rain in the forecast.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Would life savers have helped or like like Jackjackets, I'm sorry,
Life Jacket.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Unfortunately, in this situation, because of how bad the flooding was,
I don't think it would have mattered. In some instances maybe,
but the majority, I don't think it would have mattered.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Well, well, watch what the legislature does. You know. I'm
going to use this to transition into something that bothers
me from the right and from the left, and that
is we're thirty what seven trillion dollars in debt?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yep, thirty six six.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah. Now wow, that's pretty impressive. Thank you, you're a professor.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Expect No, No, I watch it every day.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Well, you know, I go to that that clock online
and look at it.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Trump comes into office doing something that I critiqued him
strongly for not doing in his first four years prior
to Biden, and Biden didn't give a crap, you know,
I got to ask you. But Trump comes in and
he wants to do something about it. Every penny we cut, yes,
somebody's somebody's ox is gored, all right, every penny we cut.
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And the reason given for no warning system in Kerr
County was that the public didn't want to spend the money.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Well the county, Kerr County didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Want to spend didn't want to spend the money. But
that was after after having a reaction, you know, or
they surveyed, they surveyed the mood of the people. They
didn't want their taxes to go up.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Well, I can't. I can't say to blame them.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Well, I can't says I blame them either. But you
go back to this big, beautiful bill that we've got
going on, and Trump Trump is cutting There's a big
story in the papers this morning. State Department's going to
lose thirteen hundred people. All right, So does that hurt
our diplomatic efforts? Well it may. What what kind of
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a balance, Shane, do we have to have between trying
to get our fiscal house in order because civilizations have
crumbled over debt, Yes, all right, what kind of a
balance do we have to have about the pain it's
going to cause to certain people, maybe harm the country
in the way we saw the floods harm those little
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girls and the other people who died. How do we
reach a balance on this? How can we cut the
fat without hurting ourselves.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Well, it's the answer to your question is easy, but
the implementation of it is what's going to be hard.
All Right, The quick and easy answer is we have
to be smart. Okay. And all the nonsense of the
Biden years just really blows my mind. You talk about
(17:59):
ballooning the national debt. He did it, Okay, he did it.
I mean they were they were spending money on DEI like,
it's going out of style. But we have to be
smart here, and I think Trump and he was vindicated.
You know in the last few days. Did you hear
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what happened in June? We actually had a monthly surplus.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Oh, that's cause of the tariffs. I know.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Imagine that charging someone else, charging others to use our
consumer market.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Well, that's that's true. And if you remember, the founders
of this country did not want an income tax. Yes,
in fact, was it nineteen sixteen when we got what
was it the thirteenth Amendment of the sixteenth I can't
remember what you want they put the income tax. The
New York Times into the New York Times, which was
a different paper in those days, said once the government
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gets its hand in your pocket, its hand is not
going to come out and they're right, and they're absolutely
right about that. So, you know, I look at my
own life and I think, when I'm paying my bills,
I'm thinking, now, which bill needs to be paid first?
And I'm thinking that might be the house payment? Yes,
Now what bill needs to be paid second? Well? Maybe
(19:21):
the power bill?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Now what about taking a shower and uh, you know,
being able to being able to drink? Yeah, pay the
water bill? Are there things that have to be paid?
So if you start listing these things in your life,
you know, but then there's preventive maintenance. That's what I'm doing.
I do once a year for my body, I have
my blood drawn and I go see my doctor and
(19:45):
he tells me where I'm screwing up and what I
need to do different I need. I go to the
dentist to have preventive maintenance on making sure my dental
care is there. As a country, what is in your
mind and thinking the whole time I'm asking you this
about about priorities for spending the amount of money that
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we bring in. What is the number one priority for
the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Well, the one way that we differ from everyone else
is that we have states that also have to have
a budget, true, that also have to pitch in you know,
their dollars.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I think the way the way Trump is trying to
do most of his fiscal policy is he's trying to
get the states to do more, okay more, more priority
stuff like FEMA, because think about it, think about it
like this. I mean, Texas had a had a absolutely
(20:48):
fabulous response. Okay, the state of Texas. True, I mean
they they got everyone that they possibly could down down
there to uh Kerrville, right county. But the problem is
it was you know, it was after the fact, yes, okay,
(21:11):
So how do we how do we make it more?
How do we make have more preventative measures? Well is
the question.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
The nuclear stockpile comes to mind. But you know what,
we're very fortunate in America that we have an ocean
to the west, we have an ocean to the east,
and we have somewhat of an ocean to the south.
We have a first World country to the north of US,
and we have a third World country to the south
of US. So that's really not too bad to be in.
(21:42):
But I think the country's first responsibilities protect our shores,
to repel invasions. Yes, but Biden did not think that
he opened up the southern border. We probably have Iranian
sleeper cells on our college campus.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
No, we do, well, we do. We do have Iranian
sleeper cells. It's already been reported. Okay, but they're trying
to kill Trump.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
They put what what is that? That's a fat Why
is it called a fat? Wah?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
But anyway, So, but but you're right, a country cannot
be a country without borders. And we've said that. I've
heard you say it a million times. I've said it
a million times. I've heard everyone say it a million times.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And we should have have the right to control who
comes in and out. I mean, we want immigration, don't we. Yeah,
we want to say, Okay, we've checked you. You don't
have a disease, you don't have tuberculosis or something like that,
and your criminal record looks good. You can come in
and work here, and here's your green card. Yeah, but
here's the Biden just opened it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, Biden just opened it. But here here's the problem
that we have. We have Democrats like Hakeem Jeffries and
Crockett and some of these other ones that are are
going around saying, well, you know in regards to the
big beautiful bill, well, we're gonna he's going to cut
millions off of medicaid. No, he's only going to cut
(23:10):
the millions off of Medicaid that don't belong there. There's
there's that that caveat at the end that don't belong there.
I'm sorry, illegal aliens don't belong there. We is my opinion.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
No, I think that's exactly what they're trying to do. Look,
we can talk about illegal aliens, and I'm I'm going
to be one of the first to come in and
say that we need some of them, not the illegal aliens,
but we need some people in construction, in agriculture, in hospitality.
Those are the three categories. But they have got to
(23:49):
come here legally. Yes, they have got to come with
a with a green card or something. And they have
got to not be able to get pregnant and have
an anchor baby exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
And that's and that's what's Trump. What Trump is trying
to do. He's trying to restructure the system. Whereas for
the last what you know, fifty hundred years, it's been
our system has been gained. There's an actual black market
for women to come to the cot come to our country,
(24:20):
have their baby, and then that baby has automatic.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Citizenship, and then you can't deport the most Yeah, and
then you can't deport them. Then you bring in the
father and chain migration happens. That started under Lyndon Johnson
and Ted Kennedy exactly when they got together and said, well,
right now, I'm thinking about the sixties. Right now. In
the sixties, we have a situation where we have quotas,
we need so many farm workers, we need so many
(24:46):
of this and that. And even when you're talking immigration,
sometimes you're talking about physicists, you know, our doctors, Ye,
people who are skill positions and people who are unskilled labored.
But getting Kennedy and Kennedy and Johnson change that to
a more compassionate thing, so that if we bring somebody over,
well you got to bring the wife, the kids, the aunts,
(25:07):
the uncles, the grandmothers, the grandfathers. And that's what we
have today.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
But when you think about the way Trump is trying
to restructure everything, he's putting our borders first, he's making
it to where we don't have the influx of illegal immigrants,
and then all that other stuff can be worked out
after the fact.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
All right, a day that changed the world. Yes, if
Trump had been hit through the head, Yes, with that bullet,
where would we be on immigration?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
President Kamala.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
And open borders forever?
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
You remember that there was another moment that may have
changed the world. I know it's your favorite program, Shane, Yes, waitsparage.
I'm talking about the view. Do you remember when she
went on and I think it was Farah what's her name? Yeah,
the names maybe it was joy Behar. Okay, if you've
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been president or you're you're wanting to be president, what
would you do different from Joe Biden?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I can't think of it. Single figure that killed her.
She was dead at that point, So that was on
from her side of the aisle. That was the key
moment for her. For Biden, the key moment was that debate.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
And then Trump nearly gets assassinated. Uh. It was almost
as if the hand of God was reaching in. I know.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well, that's the only explanation because if Trump would have
tilted his head at a different angle, not turned at
the right moment, he'd be dead.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
It's crazy. I want to mention something I planned to
post this podcast when we're done. Oh lord, I'm going
to put it up on wherever you get your podcast,
as the saying goes, you may have heard this, Yeah,
apparently some guy did a podcast with Kamala Harris and
after it was over, her handlers sat down with him
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and they mutually agreed that podcast should never be heard.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Oh yeah, I heard that. The podcast so bad.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
He said, I didn't want to be the one who
kept her from winning the election, but apparently she couldn't
answer anything. She made foolish statements. You know, we're going
to go to lunch maybe here in a while. Yeah,
you're going to have a word salad before you before
you have your steak. Can you imagine somebody with her
communication skills. I didn't know the term word salad before her.
(27:37):
Oh yeah, but a word salad, if I'm understanding it right,
is like you put a lot of lettuce in a salad.
Put She'll take one or two words that she's using
as a crutch, is what I'm trying to say, and
repeat him over and over. You know, when you think
about the passage of time and how the passage of
time affects us, well, the passage of time, this is
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a word salad let me ask you this. Trump said
the other day, he's kind of pissed off at Vladimir Putin.
Can you imagine can you imagine any kind of a
statement from Kamala Harris that would have been stilled fear
into any of our geopolitical adversaries?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
No, not one.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Can you imagine when Biden said, don't don't well, you know,
and what does Trump do? He takes out the nuclear Yeah,
I know, the nuclear powers over there of Iran. By
taking out there what do they call centrifuge.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think Obama even said anything that
would have put the fear of God in.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
No, but Obama bombed the hell out of everybody. Yeah,
for ten years, there was twenty six thousand bombing strikes
ordered by Obama. If I remember my Google AI search
right in a single year.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
But then he is but then he and Biden constantly
we're giving money to Iran.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, it's almost like it's almost like with Obama you
could never tell which side he was on, because he
sends a pallette of money to Iran, right and just
drops it at their doorstep. Yeah, and the dead of Knight,
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and then you have you have Biden as vice president
basically telling them to fire the prosecutor to keep to
keep him from being investigated.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And I know he got fired, he got fired. Obama
say about it.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
And then you have that red line with Syria that
never transpired.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
That was Obama's Yeah, that was Obama. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I was thinking about that too. You know, I don't know.
The Trump comes Trump comes off of four years yep,
with no new wars. Yep. All right. Biden comes in.
He gets asked at a news conference, m what would
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you do if Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine. Biden's answer is, well,
I don't know, it would depend on how far and
you know how serious the incursions were, and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Parton takes this as the Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I know, and see I'm thinking, and I'm thinking, are
you serious? Does it really matter? One inch inside of
their border is an incursion?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah? I would have said the consequences will be significant,
it will be terrible, and we will act immediately. If
he does that, that would have stopped it. He didn't
do it under Trump.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
He didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Trump comes in and he's got this war going on
that was started by October the seventh in gods, and
he's also got the Ukraine War going on. And he
thought that by talking nice a little bit the time
of time about Putin, he was going to be able
to just call up call, make a phone call and
get Putin to pull out of Ukraine. And that hasn't happened,
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and now Trump is not happy about it. He basically
has neutered Iran and he got a ceasefire in that war.
So now we still have what's going on in Gaza,
and we still have what's going on in Ukraine. The
day that changed the world. Without Trump, these wars, who
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knows what would have happened with Harris. What do you
think Trump can do about those those two remaining wars.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Well, here's my theory. If as far as hamas in Gaza, right,
let Israel take care of that. You know, it's kind
of like the Iran thing. Israel did most of the bombing.
We come in and drop a few on on a
couple of spots. Yeah, yeah, the bunker busters because no
one else has those. Okay, fine, we helped, But I
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would let Israel handle Gaza. I would. I would seriously
just let him do it.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Oh, I think that's what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, And then as far as Ukraine goes, eventually Trump
is going to get mad enough at Vladimir Putin where
he's going to drop a bunker buster on Moss.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Well, look, you like Lindsey Graham or you don't. There
are people who do and people who don't. He's been
in office a long time, but he's put a bill
up and essentially I haven't read the bill, but one
aspect of the bill that he's put there, and Trump
says he's looking at it and may may sign it
if it gets to his desk. Would put a get this,
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a five hundred percent tariff on goods coming in from
any country that that that accepts energy from Russia.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
That would be hilarious.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
That would hit that would hit Germany very hard.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, and you you know what and
rightfully so. And as far as tariffs go, everyone knows
Trump is serious about tariffs. So if there if a
bill comes up, you know, along those lines, it would
behoove anyone watching to take note of that.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Well, that's true. I want to talk about tariffs for
just a minute. I've never been a fan of them.
Trump is so far proved me wrong on a couple
of things. But you know, we still don't say that again. No,
but I mean we'll still have to wait and see
what happens. Yeah, but here's my problem. Okay, I'm sure
you know who Heraldo Rivera is. Yes, and he's a
little bit to the left center, but he's not a
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dumb ass like you see on MSNBC. He comes on
News Nation, which is where he is. I've been watching
a lot of that network. It's excellent.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Haraldo Rivera comes on and he says, well, I just
got back from a two week vacation in Japan. And
it was Cuomo or Vedit or one of those guys said, well,
what stood out to you over there? He says, well,
what stood out to me was I was over there
the whole time I was in the big cities. Everywhere
I went, I did not see a single Japanese person
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driving an American made car. There were no Chevrolets, there
were no Buicks, there were no Fords, nothing made in America.
And yet you can't drive around the block, especially where
I work in Austin, or in Temple, Texas, or Waco, Texas,
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or Dallas or anywhere else, you're gonna see foreign cars
lined up like crazy. Every time you stop at a
red light. I look around and I see how many Hondas, Toyotas,
Nissans all that there are. They're everywhere. We can't sell
our cars there, but they sell their cars here. This
is what I'd like to see Trump fix is accessibility
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to these markets for American made products.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, and that's what he's trying to do, Like, for example, Canada,
he threatened Canada with a thirty five percent tariff if
they didn't stop the fensonyl flow and get this and
let let dairy farmers sell their product.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah yeah, the milk thing. Yeah yeah, that's that's that's true.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
So he's trying to fix and.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
The intellectual theft of our property.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Don't give me start on China. Oh good lord, he
needs to. He needs to put the screws to time
to China so bad that China's economy basically falls.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
China's economy is not in good shape. You know, I
want your response to a statement I'm gonna make here,
all right. When Trump decided that he would go ahead
and bomb those Iranian nuke signs, I worried as did
a lot of other people. It's just going to start
World War three, because World War three will probably if
it ever happens, will probably start in the Middle East.
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And yet I think it is the I think it
is the weakness of Russia and China right now that
they didn't do anything. Yeah, China's economy is in the tank.
They would love to invade Taiwan. They would have loved
to while Biden was president. I don't I don't think
they felt like they could make it work. And Putin
has lost so many soldiers, his stockpile has got to
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be down. He's being helped by North Korea, by China.
But our two biggest and most powerful largest countries that
oppose US, China and Russia, aren't in much of a
position to help Iran right now, are to probably help
North Korea.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
No, you know, regardless of what people say, we are
the you know, we are the superpower of the world
by far, and we're alone at the top. And now now, yeah,
does China own a bunch of our debt? Yeah? Could they?
(36:59):
Could they hurt us economically, yeah? Probably, But at the
same time, there is we we could also hurt them,
because China depends on the American consumer market in order
for its economy to survive. You take away the United
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States consumer market, China dies.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
All right, you're a tech guy. I'm gonna ask you
some tech questions. Okay, this little Macintosh laptop that we're
using to record this, is that made in America?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Probably? Not?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Where was it? Probably? Well? What's a little boxy looking
thing you've got sitting there? Oh?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
My iPhone?
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah? Your iPhone? Where was that made?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
What? What usually happens is that the parts are made
overseas somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
We assemble them here, and then we assemble them here,
and then they're saying proud American, Yeah exactly, not made
in USA, because they really weren't. All right, Shane, what
you know about technology, huh?
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Is?
Speaker 1 (37:59):
You know is up here way high like the floodwaters,
And what I know is like like the dried up creek.
Will we ever make cell phones in America? Totally start
to finish rare earth elements and everything?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
It depends. It depends, you know, that's that's a lawyer's
favorite term, right, you know, it depends. It depends on
how China does or how how Trump does with the tariffs.
He is trying to get Samsung and some of these
other companies to bring their iPhone market or their mobile
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phone market here.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Samsung is big in tailor, yeah, Texas right now where
they're they're building big all right, what would all right?
My phone? I'm trying to remember what I paid for it,
but I think it was over a grand. Yeah, And
the minute I paid it off, I started getting messages
about upbreaking, upgrade.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
But let's say a phone cost one thousand dollars. Okay,
what would it call that same phone? Nothing different except
it was totally made in the United States, probably by
union labor.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
What would that keep the phone cost up?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It might kick it up a couple hundred bucks, but
that's that's about it. Ever, all the prognosticators who are saying, oh,
our economy is going to die if you know, if
we manufacture everything here, because the cost of everything's going
to be so high. Now actually, because when you take
out the cost of having to freight it overseas, right,
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because that's what they do. They put on a you know,
a freight tanker and you know, get to get it
over here.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
And there may be tariffs on it.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Exactly, and and there may be tariffs on it. But
the tariffs over here, if you manufacture here, are going
to be zero. Plus your shipping is going to be
a lot less. So when when you balance everything out,
and that's the key, is balanced, When you balance everything out,
it's not nearly going to be as detrimental as is
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what everyone says it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Well, that's probably true. I want to ask you to
prognosticate a little bit. Okay, all right, Immigration, we're having
the big problems. Karen Bass, mayor of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Don't get me started.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, geez, I'm gonna get you started. They're firing shots
at immigration ICE agents. Yes home and Tom Holman I
bet I've interviewed him live three or four times in
the same room with him in DC. Yeah, and on
the phone maybe two dozen times. And he's serious about
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this good. But the left is charging you know that
there's no compassion workers that we need or being deported.
How does this end up?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Well, let me let me ask you this. Should there
be compassion for those that break our law? First thing,
before they do anything else, they break our law?
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, this is what I'm saying. I wrote a column
recently called if we had a function in Congress, we
could have a functioning immigration system exactly. I think we
need guest worker programs, but I want the people vetted,
and I want them. Everybody says, well, you're showing papers.
Sounds like Hitler. No it doesn't. If you're somebody that
doesn't speak a word of English and you're working in
a hotel, you're probably in here illegally.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I would like for that sweet lady in most cases
who's making my bed to be able to say no,
I am in America because I followed your rules and
I came here to work. That would be great, But
Democrats and Republicans fight over this issue. My guess is
that the amount of time it would take to fix
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it in Congress is about two hours, oh less than that,
But they won't do it. Well, well, it's like I
sit here to write a bill in ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Hey, it's like what Trump said, right, you didn't need
you didn't need a bill coming through Congress. All you
needed was a different president.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Well that's absolutely fat. When we found that out. All right,
how does the big beautiful bill work out? And I'll
embellish that question by seeing the Democrats say it's the
end of the world. People are gonna kicked off be
kicked off of Medicaid. Rural hospitals are going to close down,
people are going to go hungry. A spoon or a
fork that is halfway into a child's mouth with food
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on it is going to be yanked out of that
child's mouth. It's going And the Republicans say, boy, this
is the greatest bill for the people because the taxes
are gonna be kept as low as they are now.
It's going to put more money in people's pockets. No
tax on tips. Blah blah blah. How does this pan
out between say, now and the midterm elections?
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Okay, so we still have what a year and a
half or something till the midterms something like that. Okay,
So what's gonna what's going to happen is the big
beautiful bill is going to I don't want to say,
hurt blue states, but what it's going to do, it's
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going to cause them to come into line with most
American values. I mean, the there was a recent poll
out that said, I think it was fifty six to
sixty percent of you know, citizens want every illegal alien deported.
(43:31):
All right, that's not me saying that that's a poll
that came out. Okay, so that's what the American people want.
And what what what really astounds me is that everything
that the American people want in these blue states, it's
falling on deaf ears and and I mean you got
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Maine and the and the whole title title nine thing, right.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Oh yeah, with the girls with the girls sports.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Well you have that same thing going out in California.
That's an eighty twenty issue.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
You know, Novak Djokovic got beat in straight sets by
Yahnique Center earlier this week. I think next year he
ought to play in the women's division.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Yeah, why not? Shoot, I mean it's happening all over
the country. Why not.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yeah, that's some of the craziness. You know. I've thought
and have written columns on this too at wb Daily
dot com that the Democrats insane positions or what has
hurt them so bad?
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Well, you're right, all these eighty twenty issues have hurt
the Democrats because normal Americans don't think just using the
girls sports thing for an example, normal Americans eighty percent
or more don't think that if you're born a male,
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you should be competing in women's sport.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
You know, what. I don't think the LGB community is
all that thrilled with the key part of it.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Oh, they're not either.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
I mean, look, I've long given up the idea that
that there's not going to be gay people, and fine,
I've come to accept it to a certain extent. There
are there are, There are homosexual people in the world,
and I don't know whether they can do anything about
it or not. The transgender part, I will never ever
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ever go there.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Well, you know, just like you and I used to
talk on your show. You know, we don't care who
you like or who you love or whatever, as long
as you do it in the privacy of your own home.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
True. But I'm not for gay marriage. I am for
gay civil unions. But marriage isn't ordained of God. Well,
I get and I think that a legal joining where
they have every and I'm not talking about they as
being some some terrible group of people. As I say,
I can accept, I can accept it even though I
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don't understand it. Yeah, I mean, as a male, the
joys of of being with a woman are unparalleled to me,
but especially when you have a beautiful one like yeah, okay,
but but I just think this this idea and I'm
going to tell you I have inside knowledge of this
because of people I know. A lot of hospitals love
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this transgender stuff because it makes a ton Oh.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
It does make a ton of money. I read I
read a study I guess it was last year or something. Uh,
and it and it was saying that all these transgender
surgeries because they were approved under the Biden administration, that
that you know, all these surgeries, they they got paid
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for by the governments.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
And and then you have the transgender and the military
and and all that stuff. I mean, now it's gone,
but you know, the military was paying for all these
transgender surgeries as well for some of their combat.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
All right, let's do one last subject here, But I've
saved one of the most entertaining for last. Shane Keirrington
College professor, raconteur, a man about town, radio station owner
in a small market and all that. Yeah, what do
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you make of the fact that Trump berated a reporter
and then Pam BONDI said, client lists, Jeffrey Epstein, client Listen,
We don't need no stinking client lists. I just just
yesterday wrote a long column about that and posted it.
(47:53):
And I'm sure you haven't had a chance to read
it yet, although I know you read those really quickly.
Oh yes, what in the hell is going on?
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Well, didn't didn't didn't Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi having
that little scuffle right now? Yeah, that's what I was,
That's what I was thinking. But you know what, if
if he has a client list, you know, fine, it
needs to be released or whatever. But if he doesn't
have a client list, then just let it go.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
But here's where I am on this. Okay, don't freaking
lie to me. Yeah, all right. I love Trump. I've
never been a big Bondi fan. I've been ambivalent about Bongino.
I thought his talents don't lie in the talk show industry.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
I think Clay and Buck are at that time period
are fairly dominant. And there's a reason for that, not
that that Bongino was bad at it. He's not well
who is I know, I mean, who is rush? That
we should do a podcast about who will should replace him?
That would be a good one. But here, here's where
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I'm coming from. I mean, and I wrote the article
so you can read it at wb Daily dot com.
It's called It's entitled why can't we see the Jeffrey
Epstein client list? But do you want to Well, it's
not so much that it's if they're not releasing it,
assuming it does exist and we know there's files, Yeah,
there's maybe not a client list, maybe there's files. There
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is a reason. So I speculate, what is the reason.
Why would Trump say I promised to release it. Bongino
on his radio show, We're going to release it. We're
going to get to the bottom of it. Bondy, that's
sitting on my desk and we're going to release it.
Cash but tail, We're going to release it, and then
they don't. So something is different when you see what's
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in the file. But did you from what you and
I are able to say.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Okay, but did you hear how Bondi caveat in her
statement after the fact.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Oh it was called spin.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Well, yeah, I was saying.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
I meant that there were files on my desk. There's
no client list. No, she was asked specifically about the
client list. So she's lying now, And you know, I
like it. I don't like it when the left lies
to me. I don't less when the right lies to me.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
My personal opinion on the matter is I don't care.
That's my personal opinion. Why because this was so many
years ago, just let it go. He's dead.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah, well so's Lee Harvey Oswald. I know, you know,
I don't know. I think the problem that I have
with it, yeah, is there's obviously some reason not to release.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah, what is the obfuscation? Is my question?
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Well? What bothers me? And this is people who are
not in office mouthing off and when they get an office,
they find their hands are a little more tied. You know.
Maybe I'll tell you this. We haven't said the F
word once on this podcast. We can all we want to, yea,
But why wouldn't Well, because it's not covered by FCC rules.
(51:05):
I can't say that. I can't say that on a
radio show. Or it's fine. Oh yeah, as you know,
as you well know, Joe Rogan likes the word. He
says it a lot. Tucker Carlson uses it on his podcast.
Everybody does. I choose not to do it because I
don't think it's necessary. That's right, all right, But when
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you go on a podcast, or you go on a
radio show, or you're in a news conference, or you're
making promises in a campaign, don't over promise. That's because
you end up with egg on your face. This Maga thing,
this Epstein thing, some people think it's big enough that
it could seriously harm Trump's presidents.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
Well, supposedly Trump was on the list, Clinton was on
the list, Obama was on the list.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
I mean, but now they're saying there really wasn't any
crime committed yet Gallaine Maxwell is serving time.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
I know.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
So what the hell is this about? Here's what I
think happened, Okay, I mean, and again it's wild imagination speculation.
I've listened to podcasts on it, I've read about it.
Somehow somewhere, probably Epstein was involved as an asset for
some agency. The one I would probably think is the CIA. Now,
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what better way to gain more assets than to take
people that you want to be able to get information
out of and have them involved with the little girls
and then threaten them and use that to get what
you want out of them. If that list comes out,
that's all over. Now that may be so far off
base that it's on another planet, But I don't know.
(52:43):
I'm trying to think there's something in those files. Trump
looked at him, Bongino. I think is trying to protect
his brand. His brand and my brand is I'm the
secretary of logic, right, I'm logical, I'm common sensical. Bongino's
brand is twofold. I have been on the inside. I
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know how it works, and I will tell you stuff.
I will be a straight shooter. His brand is in danger.
People are saying, how did they get to Dan Bongino?
So how did they get to Trump? And how did
they get to Bondy and how did they get to
Cash Pattel. I mean, there's there's some reason not to
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release those and I think the reason is so sensitive
that they can't even tell us that.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
Well, here's here's my question. Because Cash Pattel and Dan
Bongino want the files released, true, okay, or they.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Did before they got back into office.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Yeah, why is Bondie sitting on them? Bondy, in my
in my thought process, would not have been involved in
any of this.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Do you think there has been a meeting in the
Oval office with uh, the President, Bondi, Patel and maybe
even Bongino although he's only a deputy director. Probably probably
just those three said well, let's release these things, and
Bondi says, gosh, I've looked at him. There's there's problems,
(54:17):
and Patel says, yeah, there's things in there that are
really super sensitive. I don't know what they could be
if they're not what I said earlier. But how how
much damage can this do to Trump? And will it
blow over? And will will Bondy, Patel and Bongino survive it.
Speaker 2 (54:42):
I don't think there's anything in it that could possibly
hurt Trump as bad as what people think. Did Trump
know Epstein?
Speaker 1 (54:56):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Did he fly around on his planes or whatever?
Speaker 1 (55:02):
The lolita yeah, lolita express? And did Trump or Bill
Clinton or anybody else do anything naughty?
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Well, that's young girls. Well that's the question. It comes
to what level of of you know, association with Epstein
you're talking to.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
Yeah, if you're pedophilia, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:25):
If you're talking about the massive depravity of pedophilia, I
don't think Trump was involved in that. If you're talking hope,
if you're talking about did he know Epstein? Did he
fly on his plane or go to his house for
dinner or something? Yeah? Probably because Epstein was one of
those powerful individuals.
Speaker 1 (55:46):
All right, let's wrap this up. I'll ask you some
personal questions.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
You're hungry aren't you.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
Well, no, I just want to delve into all right,
you are the owner of k clw YES in a
small town, Hamilton, Hamilton, a cute, little, cute little town.
If you're headed out toward Lubbock and Amarillo, yeah, you'll
pass through it. You took a bad lightning strike during
one of the storms. Lord, are you going to be
(56:13):
able to get this station back on?
Speaker 2 (56:15):
Well that well, it wasn't just one bad lightning storm. Okay.
So last year, okay, in twenty twenty four, all right,
so I counted all the incidents. Okay, the tower. Now
keep in mind the tower that we went on and
the tower is down. Okay, we had to take down
(56:36):
the tower. But the tower was like sixty years old.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
Okay, so you got to find another tower.
Speaker 2 (56:41):
So I have to find another tower. But the old
tower it froze twice last year in January, and it
was like frozen for like three days at a time
until it thawed. Right, And in Texas, that's saying something
because you know, how often does the freezer in Texas?
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Welcome to the world ownership, I know.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
So the tower froze twice and then we had a
bad wind and lightning storm the following April mayish timeframe,
and that blew out the primary transmitter, so I hooked
up the secondary transmitter. And then we had another lightning
(57:22):
strike and I think I had to get that repaired,
and then because it wasn't as bad, but it was
still bad enough. And then the final lightning strike was
in the first part of November where it blew out
the backup transmitter too.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
So are there any deals online like by a transmitter,
get one free? I mean, I buy eggs by the dozen.
It sounds like you need transmitters.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
Well with that old tower, I did, but now I'm
I think what we're going to do is get on
the county tower, hoping that works out. I don't know
what the cost is going to be or anything like that,
but here's hoping.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
Now if it comes back on the Lynn Wooly Shane
Carrington podcasts should be run in prime time.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Heck yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (58:09):
All right now. Patriot Network, What what happened with Patriot Network?
Speaker 2 (58:13):
Okay, so Patriot Radio Network that was the the successor
to Logic Nation. Yes, okay, so what happened is we
were we were going along and I thought I thought
we were kind of growing. We were getting involved with
the Bell County Republican Party and the coriel and and
(58:34):
some of the other ones, even the Hamilton County one.
Because what what I was doing is, I was we
uh we were broadcasting on News Radio fourteen n k EM,
and I was I was simultaneously sending it to k CLW,
So we were on two stations at once, and I
thought we were growing and all that stuff. Well, uh,
(58:55):
k Tim all of a sudden, al the blue on
a Thursday sends me an email going, hey, you know,
the last day of the of the show broadcast is
going to be tomorrow, and so I was, you know,
it kind of surprised me. But the next day we
signed off the show and that was the end of.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
Patriot Radio Network. Well maybe it will come back one
of these days. But in the meantime, we have Planet
Logic that's right now, and so we'll do this again.
Speaker 2 (59:25):
How about I had fun?
Speaker 1 (59:27):
All right? Shane Currington, Technical wizard, extraordinaire, broadcast entrepreneur, college professor.
What have you not done?
Speaker 2 (59:40):
I don't know. I've been a movie theater general manager,
a call center rep. I've done a lot in my
old age.
Speaker 1 (59:48):
Oh my goodness. All right, well we'll talk some more
politics here on Planet Logic, and thanks for being with us.
Speaker 2 (59:54):
Thank you, Lynn.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
All right, a day that changed the world. All the
stuff we talked about would have been totally different had
that bullet been about a quarter of an inch to
the right one year ago as we speak, Shane Kerrington,
thank you very much. My name is Lynn Woolly. My
website is wbdaily dot com. You'll find all my columns there.
(01:00:15):
Check out the Cardle and Wooly Show Talk thirteen seventy
dot com, or if you're in the Austin area, thirteen
seventy on your AM dial. All right, be logical everybody,
and thank you for joining us here on Planet Logic.
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