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August 5, 2023 • 46 mins
The Deep State is thinking, "we got him now!" But is it really former President Trump who's indicted? Or is it the millions of people in America who see him as the only way to drain the Swamp? And, oh, how that Swamp needs draining! Some think the Swamp decides who can run for president and even who can win. If that's so, it explains how a frail, mindless puppet got into office, and perhaps who is the puppeteer! Join Lynn Woolley and Lou Ann Anderson for a deep dive into the inner workings of Washington and what it means to Trump, Biden, and the future of Our Republic.
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Welcome to Planet Logic and Political Pursuitsthe podcast. Today's episode America under Indictment
America, not Donald Trump so much, but those of us who are Americans.
I'm Lynn Woolley of Planet Logic withme is lew and Anderson of Political
Pursuits the podcast. And this iswhat we're going to talk about today.

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What is really happening right now?What's going on with this in diatma,
what's going on with the possible impeachmentof Joe Biden, what's going on with
this revelation now that all of ourfears may have been true, that it
is Obama pulling the streams behind JoeBiden and Lu And it just gets down
to, as Benny Johnson said inhis now famous piece called The Ghost and

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the Machine, the dais ex machina. Who is allowed to be president in
the United States? And what dowe mean by that term? Well,
I think just to take a lookat some of what Benny says his piece
opens what is really happening to Americatwenty twenty three? The indictments have nothing
to do with Trump, not really. Conversely, the cover up of impeachable

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crimes have nothing to do with Biden. Don't kid yourself. Joe Biden is
not powerful or smart. He's barelyalive. And that's the point. This
is a pure exercise and power bythose who truly wield power in our society.
Those people the security state. Thesecurity state is made up of a
constellation of permanent Washington DC apparatus whocling to the power center like fossilized barnacles.

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The security state never puts their nameson a ballot. Too dirty.
They would not dream of stooping thatlow. They are the ghost in the
machine. Well, this goes backto Peter Struck and Lisa Page at the
FBI and their little insurance policy.Can you name somebody, say, I
don't know, sometime around twenty sixteenwho kind of threw a monkey ranch into

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this, somebody who was not allowedto be president of the United States but
became president of the United States inspite of not being allowed and messed up
there. They're good little deal thatthey have the lucrative playhouse that they have
in Washington, DC. Now,Donald Trump absolutely absolutely, and he was,

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as you know, they've talked aboutit, he was he broke the
system. He was the tool thatbroke the system. That broke the system
of the security state. They wentapoplectic and they haven't gotten over it yet.
But you know they say, hell, hath no fury like a woman
scorned. Well, I think thesame can be said of a security state.
I think so too. I honestlydon't think any of this is about

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what Trump did, didn't do,said, didn't say whatever. The perfect
phone call turns out. Yep,it was a perfect phone call. There
wasn't a darn thing wrong with it. It was Biden who was committing that
crime at the time. But whathappens is Trump gets into power. Unfortunately,
he has people on his staff thatare part of this deep state,

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and some of them took him downa primrose path. He still was a
pretty darn good president, certainly betterthan what we have now. But I
don't think any of what's going onnow, Luan, is about any of
Trump's so called crimes. I thinkit's about the threat that Donald Trump poses
to the security state, the deepstate, the apparatics, whatever you want
to call him, and they areterrified that this man might become president again

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because he can't be controlled. It'sa threat to their power and they're having
to fight back as Benny says thatTrump becoming president that he broke the system.
In twenty sixteen, this was theyear the security state was internationally humiliated
and proven to be powerless frauds,paper tigers. I mean, if Trump

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beats your anointed Clinton candidate in alandslide after you rig the election against him,
you're powerless. And the world sawit, and a crisis broke out
among this community like never before.They only have power because of projection,
and that projection was shattered. TheAmerican people broke the system and Trump was

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the tool We the American people,we rejected and laughed in the machine's face.
Well, this line about who canrun for office can in all caps
and who is allowed to win thatoffice of the presidency with win in all
caps. I used to think thatthat was a function of the vote of

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winning enough states to win the electoralCollege and become president. But remember George
W. Bush almost didn't make itacross that line either. They didn't want
him to be president. They wantedAl Gore absolutely. And in the case
of Trump, remember we were toldninety six percent chance that he'll Lary Clinton

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would win the presidency, and yetthat leads to Benny Johnson's line, we
rejected that and laughed in the machine'sface. The machine doesn't like to be
laughed at. Absolutely, not absolutely, And it's fighting back. And that's
what these indictments are about. Youwant to tell me. Look, Trump,
Trump is Trump, and it's oneof the reasons some people hate him.

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It's one of the reasons some peoplelove him. But Trump has come
out and said so many things thathappened and has been fact checked by the
likes of The New York Times,Glenn Kessler over at the Washington Post and
CNN. And how many times hashe turned out to be right? Oh
yeah, I mean it goes backto twenty fifteen when he said that they
were spying on him at Trump Tower. How dare he makes such an allegation

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about the venerable, honorable men andwomen who work in the federal government.
How dare what a what a justa harlot, a charlatan, what a
scumbag? How dare that man?And turns out he's right? Look,
Jack Smith, this may I usethe term crap weasel. Jack Smith is

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a crap weasel thanks to friends orwherever that term originated. Well, he's
certainly an unspecial counsel and he's ademocratic operative. Well he is, and
he's not an independent counsel. There'sa difference. An independent counsel was selected
by like a three judge panel orsomething supposedly going to be totally unbiased.
A special counsel comes out of DJNow, let me say this, what

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are they inviting Trump for falsely sayingthings? Now you may think I'm headed
toward the First Amendment, but I'mnot going there. Yes, the First
Amendment says that it's not a crimeto say false things because sometimes false things,
as you just said, end upnot being false. Well, certainly
in the last few years, havewe seen you know, Trump was put

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into office by Russia. He waslooting with the Russian colluding right. Uh.
COVID was came from a web market. Huh you're getting to where I'm
going. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that the experimental vaccine was safe and
effective. But what was the numberone thing that turned out to be a
complete pack of lies paid for andresearched by Hillary Clinton, that turned out

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to be completely fake and that noone has paid any price for it,
and it was used against Donald Trump? Oh, oh, pick me,
pick me, un what do youthink the Steel dossier? Who got it?
Yes, that thing was paid for, bought and purchased lies for the

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purpose of destroying a political opponent andinfluencing an election. So who else is
who else is going to get chargedhere? Who took a hammer to her
hard drive? Who had classified documentsavailable on her hard drive? This it
just it boggles the imagination. Yeah, when was the last time we heard

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anything about fusion GPS and Glenn Kessleror Bruce and Nellie or the DOJ you
know, or cocaine in the WhiteHouse? I mean for that matter.
But look, I drive by thebrand News sparkling office of Perkins Cooey on
Colorado Street every day when I goto work, and I think about all
of this because they were part ofthe of the layers that Hillary used to

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cover up the origins of the SteelDossier, without a doubt, without a
doubt. So I'm just I'm justamazed here and taking a back at this.
I don't know if they will,if they will be able to get
Trump. I will tell you this. This is my opinion based on years
of covering big trials when I wasin the news business, and based on

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knowing a guy somewhat personally, Icovered him a lot. John Sparling,
who was an assistant DA in DallasCounty, who wrote a book about this,
Testimony doesn't matter all that much ata trial. Evidence doesn't matter all
that much at a trial. Youknow what matters how you picked the jury.

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If you get your jury, ifyou get your people that you ought
on that jury, and you canblock the opposition attorney from getting any of
the jurars that he wants, you'regoing to win that case. Case and
point o J. Simpson big time. The evidence did not matter, did
it well? Whether he did itor not, did not matter. What

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mattered was he had a jury ofhis peers, and his peers thought that
he didn't deserve to be convicted,and so they didn't convict him. And
that was at you. He alsohave to remember the context of that case,
that was so soon after the RodneyKing incident and all of the riots
and the fires there in LA.That was another piece into that. But

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you know what I think, andcertainly lots of people have made this observation,
and I think because it's there's alot of truth to it, that
much of what this is about isjust more dirtying up of Trump in order
to try and keep him off thetwenty twenty four ballot. And that's why
there are several things that we needto stay on the offense in terms of

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pointing out how just bogus, howridiculous this whole persecution of him is.
We need to continue comparing and contrastingthe double standard that's going on between how
he is being treated within the lawand also what is happening with the bidens
we need to have, And thisis a big one. If there were

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any way we could have our representatives, specifically in the House, our Republican
representatives, grow a pair and goin there and take action to defund the
Unspecial prosecutors little boondoggle that he has, the money that he's spending on this.
That would be a planet of attack. That would additionally recusal of this

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judge, this Obama appointed judge wholoves Black Lives matter and who has she
was even known to have raged duringa one of the j six defendants cases
that it was outrageous to compare theactions of people protesting, mostly peacefully for

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civil rights during the Black Lives MatterDisorder of twenty twenty two Trump supporters trying
to overthrow the government in twenty twentyone. But also the final thing is
we need to get the venue changedand get it out of DC. Here's
where I'm coming from on some ofthis. And tell me if you agree,
because you know it's okay not toagree. I'm the secretary of logic.

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You know that the logic is goingto be impeccable. Well, sometimes
we do have insurrections against your logic. Well, we had an insurrection that
started this country too. But Iwrote this down while you were talking.
It's who you punish and who youdon't. Now, let me bring up
a couple of things. Was HillaryClinton punished the same thing that they're accusing

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Trump of doing? Was Hillary Clintonpunished nose Trump being punished? Yes,
all right, let's go to theGeorge Floyd case. Derek Chauvin was maybe
a bad cop. I don't know. What he had was a guy in
front of him who was fighting andresisting arrest, who had just passed a
counterfeit twenty dollar bill, who wasdrugged up to the point on Finnel and

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whatever other drugs they found. Hisheart was probably enlarged, and he put
his knee on his neck. Tobe convicted of murder, you have to
have intent. He was trying tohold this guy till they could get him
arrested. His intention was restrainment,not murder. He did not commit murder

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under any of our laws in thepast, but he was anyway for murder.
Why because political correctness comes to mind. He was on the wrong side
of history, As Barack Obama wouldsay, So it's who you punish,
let me, let me take youback. Do you remember when Ronald Reagan
had a news conference and talking aboutall those students at Berkeley who took over

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the administration office. Did they getpunished? I don't think so. What
about the protesters at the nineteen sixtyeight Democratic National Convention. Did they get
punished? Not? Not much.Maybe some got charged, but not much.
What about the Watts riots. Didthe Watts rioters? Did they all
get punished? Not much? Now? What about what about coming up to

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more modern times. What about thesummer of twenty twenty all the riots?
I know that, yes, Iknow that some of those people had charges
against them, but most of thosecharges were quietly and without media coverage drop.
I would like the people that tryto burn down the federal building there.

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And what was that in Seattle orPortland? Portland, Seattle and a
couple and they burned down police stations. Yeah, they went and put concrete
in the locks so that they werelike jamming up the locks. They created
a separate country in downtown Seattle.They murdered a black security guard. They
burned down Kenosha, Wisconsin's downtown area. While CNN had a graphic that said

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peaceful. Remember the New York lawyersthat had the molotov cocktails that they tossed
into a police cars there ended theyget punished. Turned this around, who
did get punished? What happened inJanuary six? People believed, rightly or
wrongly. I tend tend to believethat there's a lot to it, and

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you and I have talked about thison past occasions. They believed that their
government had covered up fraud in anelection. Now, if you want me
to, I can go through allthe instances of fraud. But I think
we as conservatives know what they are. So, as Tucker Carlson said,
what they did on January six wasnot go out and burned down a CBS

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drug store. They didn't overturn anybody'scar. They didn't punish anybody for what
they thought they had been wronged,who hadn't done anything to cause the wrongness.
They went to the source of thewrongness. They believed they had a
right to redress grievances against their government, and that there was a particularly a

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particular day, the timing of Januarysixth, the day in which the electoral
votes were going to be reviewed.They believed that on that day they strategically
had a right to expect that certainactions could be taken. They were there
to show their support for a groupof representatives who were coordinated and who were

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getting ready to voice their opinions thatcertain states should be returned back to their
legislatures for a closer look. It'sabout who gets punished and who doesn't get
punished. As we said, DerekChauvin convicted to murder. What about the
cop that shot Ashley Babbitt once again, I mean, and he's gone a

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little bit quiet. But then wehave those other three officers who supposedly,
you know, who came forward andwere all it seemed like they were screen
tested and poll tested and what theysaid, and they've been made heroes because
they were so put upon, andthey had a rough day there on January
sixth. I don't know rose AnneBoylan was trampled to death and a few

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and a couple of the cops hadissues that they passed away from later that
the Left tries to connect to this, correctly or not correctly, I don't
know. But all I do knowis this the only gunfire on January the
sixth was from the Capitol Police,and the only person who was killed by

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that gunfire was a protester who shouldnot have been doing what she was doing,
but who certainly was far less guiltyof any crime than George Floyd,
who has now been deified. AndI think it's also interesting to note that
I think it was three officers fromthe Capitol Police who committed suicide in very

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short order after January sixth. Whydo you think there was anybody embedded in
that crowd by any well, Idon't know, ab based on reporting by
the National Pulse. Rahim Kassan justyesterday released a clip from a Tucker Carlson
show It was going to be Itwas a episode of Tucker Carlson Today that

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was filmed shortly before Tucker was unceremoniouslyfired from Fox, and the interview featured
former Capitol Hill Police Chief Stephens Sound, who was talking about January sixth.
Now, the clip that Raheem gota hold of, it's only about two
and a half minutes or so.The audio is kind of muddy in it,

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which I don't know if that wasmaybe intentionally done just so that it
wouldn't be you know, I don'tknow why it just it was makes no
sense. Yeah, usually they onlymuddy the audio if it's anonymous, but
it's not. But it's still veryplainly, plainly audible that you can make
out what they were saying. AndSun basically calls the event surrounding Jay six

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a cover up, and he hadconcerns about people like Ray Epps, who
they were very careful in the clipto not mention by name, because mister
Epps has hired his own democratic lawyersto come and pursue these people. But
anyway, through the interview, Sunexplains that, you know, while it's

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normal for the Secret Service, theFBI, the Metropolitan Police to have a
few assets in the crowds during somethinglike this, that to his knowledge,
there were eighteen or so FBI agentsplus another twenty DHS and the DHS personnel
that he was aware of, andthat that was remarkably high, and he

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went on, I thought this isinteresting. He says. Within a few
days of January sixth, I hadmedia reach out to me and say,
hey, you're aware of the FBIhad undercovers in the crowd. I was
like, oh, no, theywould have told me. I had Stephen
Antonio, the head of the FBIWashington Field Office, on the call the
day before, didn't say anything tome about it. And now to see,

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allegedly, according to the GAO report, they had eighteen operatives in the
crowd. That's a lot of operatives. Okay, what's important to note here
Stephen d' antonio. Stephen d' antoniowas new to the Washington Field office during
the time when that was happening.Where did Stephen Antonio come from? Oh,
in November of twenty twenty, hewas transferred from the field office in

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Michigan, an FBI field office inMichigan to d C. Well, what
was the FBI doing in Michigan backduring that time? Oh? Do we
remember a little kid exactly, alittle kidnapping event, A sweep of a
bunch of a bunch of defendants,will say in air quotes, twenty five

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of them or so, and asthat all unfolded, half of them were
either undercover agents or some type ofCI confidential informants. Many of those cases
were ended up being acquitted. Imean, that whole thing was just a
cluster, you know what. Butthat was Stephen d Antonio, the guy

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that oversaw that little operation, andthen all of a sudden, here he
pops up in DC see in chargeof what has been I think aptly referred
to as the FED Surrection, theFED Surrey. Well, I call it
the CN insurrection because CNN lived onthat like they lived on the missing Malaysian

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jetliner. It's unbelievable. Let meask you, let me let me move
the subject forward just a little bit. Let me just for people listening to
this, Let's just that we're gonnawe're gonna be putting all this up on
our website WB Daily, and wewill have a link to this because it's
very interesting to hear. It's interesting. I mean, certainly it's very telling

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to have here this Capitol Police,ohsolutely verify what we've all thought, and
that he has the same questions goingthrough his mind that the rest of us
have had. It also brings upthe hum Was this just one more thing
that caused Fox to want to getrid of Tucker? And so I was
going to ask you that. Imean, Tucker had just shown That's exactly
where I was going. Tucker hadjust shown all this video that had not

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been released before, all these hoursof video that were given to Tucker Carlson
by Kevin McCarthy by McCarthy, whichwhich really ticked off all the other networks
because they wanted to probably keep thissuppressed. I mean, we don't have
journalism really, and you and Ihave both worked for the Epoch Times.
I'll give them credit. Their stuffis if it's on their front page,

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if it's presented as a news article, it's pretty well down in the middle.
Not the case on CNN, No, and sometimes not the case on
Fox, although Fox has journalists thatare separate from their opinion people. But
Tucker had apparently stepped on some prettybig toes well, and Tucker was regularly

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having Darren Beatty on talking about this. Darren Beatty has a website called Revolver
News. Darren has done incredible workinvestigating the fedsurrection. In fact, he's
the one credit given. He's theone who I who coined that term.
And Darren has uncovered a lot ofthings. One of the other things that
Darren is like a dog on thebone with their those pipe bombs, remember

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those pipe bombs were left that thatapparently Kamala drove real close to them,
right, yeah, And you knowthey were able to use these just geofencing
to you know, round up allthese people from from J sixers. But
they've never been able to use thegeofencing to do the um the pipe bomb,

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although when pushed at a point Ithink later on they've claimed they've done
that and that the materials were corruptedand they weren't able to do anything.
But this was also one of thosegoofy things too, that it was supposedly
the pipe bombs, the existence ofthem were relayed to whatever security there by

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some good samaritan who happened to comeby. But son of a gun,
they never got that good samaritan's name, No, they didn't. And I'll
say the too again getting back towho gets punished and who doesn't get punished.
You know, the security state,the deep state seems to be Okay,
if if your Black Lives Matter andyou want to burn down buildings in

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a city, a police station,whatever, you know, do it.
We'll make a few charges and thenwe'll drop them. Then in New York
you can come and say that,gosh, I'm a Black Lives Matter protester
and I was mistreated by the police, and you can get paid for that.
That's happened in Austin as well,where the protesters get paid because the

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police tried to stop them from breakingdown other people's property. But here's the
rub do not sit in Nancy Pelosi'schair, do not put your feet on
Nancy Pelosi's desk. We will throwyou away. We will lock you up
and throw away the key. Andthat's what they're doing. I think this

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prosecution of J six boils down tothis. You can burn down cities as
much as you want to, butyou will not interfere the deep with the
deep state. You will not inThis is not your house, the capital.
This is our house, and youwill not invade it. Our house.
The security state, yes, notour house. The people, yes,

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correct, make no mistake on,make no mistake absolutely. And then
when there are those who elected representativeswho would come and try and point fingers
at members of the deep state andsay, oh, now, where did
that What was the deal on thatfive million dollars that came to you and
your son? And what business isit exactly that your family has, What

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is the good? What is theservice that's selling? No, you can't
ask those questions. Oh, youdidn't pay your income taxes, Well,
let's throw Wesley Snipes in jail becausehe didn't pay his eye to you're punishing
who you don't Absolutely, I mean, it gets back to that over and
over again. So let's let's goto the Biden indictment or lack there or

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lack the lack there. It's gettingto the point where James comer and I'll
ask you if you believe he's forreal. I guess I'm always suspicious,
it seems like to me. Butc an n saying there's no evidence of
anything that connects Joe Biden. Atwo things. A. They're ready to

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throw Hunter under the bus, andso is Joe. Joe loves his son,
Joe's proud of his son, buthis son can go to jail if
it helps Biden get reelection number two. When they say there's no evidence.
I would say, well, Iagree with him. There's no evidence except
that there is a whole bunch ofshell companies. There's no evidence except that

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Joe Biden has multimillion dollar vacation homeson a government salary. I mean,
there's no evidence except that FBI formthat came out. There's there's no evidence
except multiple whistleblowers, some of whomare gay Democrats married to other men,
who come out and talk about thislun What kind of evidence do you need.

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Yeah, let's not forget the instanceof sitting on the stage at the
Council for Foreign Relations boasting about withholdabout threatening to withhold US tax dollar the
son of a bitch, the prosecutorgot, prosecutor gets fired, and that
prosecutor on videotape admitting to the blackmail, bracky bragging, which is Joe Biden's

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nature. Yes, he's very arrogant, totally totally okay, Comber. I
like what I see of Comber.However, I share the cynicism of is
anything really going to go anywhere?Because akin to what we were talking about
with Bennie's ghost in the machine andthe fact that the security state is so

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angry the security state is now clawingback power by breaking every rule with a
demonic fear and black vengeance. Idon't see that being unleashed on Comber,
and it certainly would be if theyfelt like he were. In other words,
you're thinking he is somehow as awhite supremacist if they want to get

(28:32):
rid of him, well, Ifeel fine. What I'm thinking about is
Devin Nounez. Now, when DevinNewness was head of the House Intel Committee,
look at the way they came afterhim. They were merciless. There
were the hit pieces, there wasthe threats, there was everything, to
a point that Devin recused himself,and I'm sorry that he did that.

(28:53):
I really regret that he did thatbecause it almost was kind of the same
thing as Jeff's Sessions having so capitulated, which I mean Jeff Sessions would never
have been a strong figure in thereis ag but it was that why were
they so coming after him because theyfeared that Nonez was going to do the
job, whereas Comber, they're notcoming after him. If they were coming

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after him, I would have moreconfidence that we're really going to see something
happen here. Well, and youtalk about again how the Democrats have a
double standard on things. Maxine Waterssaid, if you see a conservative,
you walk up to that person,you get in that person's face. They

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threw Kavanaugh out of a restaurant,They heckled Ted Cruz and his wife out
of a restaurant, Sarah Huckaby SandersSarah. And after an event in the
Rose Garden as Ran Paul and hiswife were walking back to their car,
they were almost killed by Black LivesMatter, and nothing ever happens. And

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the worst of all, the Democraticleader of the Senate stands on the steps
of the Supreme Court and says,I'm warning you, Kavanaugh, I'm warning
you, Gore such you have reapedthe whirlwind, or you have caused a
whirlwind. You are not going toknow what hit you. And then weeks
later there's an assassination attempt against Kavanaugh, who's, by the way, not

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my favorite Supreme Court justice by along shot. I would never put that
guy on the court, but hedoes not deserve to be assassinated. Schumer
suborned murder on the steps of theCapitol, and he almost got his wish.
Nothing happens, never yeah no.And he also remember his comment about

(30:47):
to Trump about crossing the intel communitythat you know, they have nine ways
to Sunday or whatever the expression was, that he used to come after you,
and you know, far Bid,it's not often, but no,
I do. I do think inthat case, Chuck Schumer has been proven
to be right, because that's stillpart of what's happening today. I think

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so too. And if lying getsyou indicted, how many indictments? How
many counts do you think we couldhave against Oh, now I'm having a
senior moment, Schiff, Adam Schiff, how many? How many indictments of
lying? He has seen the evidenceof Russian collusion? He told us,

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Oh remember his little his little playact thing that he did when he was
the you know, LARPer, thelive action role player. When he got
up there and read that that allegedscript between Trump and was it Zelenski?
You know, it's so funny thatZelenski was kind of a figurehead back then.
It's just that president of Ukraine.And now we've come we've come to

(31:53):
know Voltimore so well. Intimately meansmention something about Adam Schiff, because I
think this is so ironic. Schiffwas out saying not too long ago that
Don Junior should be thrown in jailbecause Don Junior was at Trump Tower and
he gets a call from one ofthe honey pots at from Russia that has

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dirt on Hillary and Don Junior said, yeah, I'll listen to what you
have to say, and then nothingever came of it. But few people
remember that a couple of guys prankedAdam Shift oh yeah, called him.
They had nude pictures of Trump,nude pictures of Trump, and Schiff was
all over it. So you know, it's just if you're on one side,

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it's one way. If you're onthe other side, it's another way.
But if we're going to indict peoplefor lying, I think we're going
to have to build something. Anddo you know that Don Junior ended up
doing sixteen hours in front of Congressanswering questions about that fifteen minute meeting.
All right, well, what aboutthis lengthy article in tablet Online called the

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Obama Fact. It's by David Samuel'sand then it's followed up with an interview
by a civil rights historian and Obama'sbiographer, David Garrow. Essentially, Obama
is just sitting on Joe Biden's shoulderand whispering in his ear. Well,
he years ago, who wasn't StephenColberry told that he wouldn't be opposed to

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a third term if he can justlike sit in the basement watching basketball with
his sweats on and have a littleairpiece and whisper into you know, the
air of a placeholder. Which well, that was in twenty fifteen, and
now it seems to have come topass. But you know, I think
a lot of people have suspected this, but now it seems to have come

(33:43):
true. Let me bring up onething that they talk about a little bit
in that article that had occurred tome as well. If the guy that
you're serving as his vice president comesup with a really lousy idea, I
mean lousy, an idea that sobad that they had to do it in
the dead of night, and theyput tens of millions of dollars on pallettes

(34:06):
and ship them to Iran in themiddle of the night for a nuclear deal
that the Iranians were not going tolive up to anyway. And Trump comes
in and kills this correctly because itwas it was bad, bad, bad.
There's nothing good about it any formor fashion. Obama almost in my
opinion could have been impeached for that. Why would then Biden suddenly want to
rekindle that this has got to beto protect Obama's legacy that or also because

(34:34):
his Chinese masters. Well there's that, there is that there is no I
mean, we have a whole newaxis of evil that's being formed that the
CCP is putting together. This axis, this coalition, whatever you want to
call him in Iran is right inthere, and so well that in the

(34:55):
Belt and Roads program, I mean, so through through the Belt and Roads
pro Graham, they're going to beable to control all these smaller countries.
And then through what you're talking abouthere, we're seeing maybe the linkage of
Iran in Russia and I don't know, North Korea is kind of an outlier
almost, but maybe them two alongwith the Communist Chinese Party. I don't

(35:19):
know what natural resources or anything ofvalue that North Korea has, not to
say that there isn't. I justdon't know what it is. Well,
they have the handsomest leader on themon the planet. There's certainly getting to
be a lot of them from thelast pictures, a lot of our handsome
fearlessly yes, but you know,with the oil that certainly the Middle East

(35:40):
brings. What they're doing down inAfrica with all the Belton Road initiatives,
They've got all those rare earth mineralsand things like this. I mean,
this is about resources. And Taiwan'sloaded with that too well. And you
know, that's something that I thinkis so important to think about in terms
of China and in terms of againtalking about Biden and his Chinese, his

(36:01):
CCP masters, who absolutely is thecase, although I'm not sure that Obama,
you know, doesn't have his tiesas well if the truth be told
and a closer look is taken.But China, I mean, their whole
infiltration of this country is about theydon't want the American people, They want

(36:22):
American resources. There are patient people, and so they can depopulate the country
along the way, but they wantthe resources. And that's the same thing
that we have going on in Africa. And certainly somebody like Bill Gates is
always happy to come in there witha new experimental injection or release some mosquitoes

(36:45):
to sterilize the population and keep theirpopulation at bay, while at the same
time it will just allow for theCCP to come in and ride herd take
control of their natural resource. Andthe thing that gets me. We titled
this episode America under Indictment, withDonald Trump being the proxy for the American

(37:08):
people. They indict him, theyindict us. And that's the way I
feel, because I felt like thiscountry was on its way back. Do
you remember what magis stands for?It's become a pejorative, But do you
remember what magi stands for. It'snot Mexicans always get across. It's make
America great again? Who could opposethat? For some reason, we have

(37:30):
a great deal and most of thedeep state or the security state doesn't seem
to want to have a strong America. Why would they not want that?
That's a million dollar question. Andwhy in the hell would we want Ukraine
in NATO? Well, and whatthis is is this is we see these

(37:51):
people. It's an AsSalt of ourfreedom, it's as salt of our way
of life, it's a salt onour value system. But don't they go
down too if the rest of usgo down? Well, that's the that's
the thing that you know. There'sthe people who I think don't understand,
and then there's there's a whole othergroup of people who they just don't care.

(38:13):
They don't take this seriously, andthey do so. If it were
just because at their own peril,that would be fine, but it's also
going to be damned at the perilof the rest of us. But we
stole the land from the Indians andslavery existed. Is that what we're being
punished for now? I mean,I wonder what happens if they are You
know, if cloward pivoin theory actuallycomes true, if they overload America with

(38:37):
so much debt that we finally collapseand they can turn us into a socialist
state. But then you've got toseecp you'll be ready to pounce. Well,
and I mean they have their ownfinancial problems as well, so I
mean that they do the one savinggrace and that everybody else in the world
has a lot of financial issues aswell, which doesn't help me sleep a

(38:58):
whole lot better at night. Butit is kind of out there. Well
end games. Does Trump get prisontime, I pray not? Does Biden
get impeached? You know there Wetalked about this earlier and I said this
was I thought something better to talkwhile we had, while we had things
rolling. While I would love tosee it. The other side is that

(39:24):
I don't want to do their dirtywork, make them do it well.
But the big, the big monkeyranch in all of this is Kamala Harris.
She's about as dumb as a rock. She is not communicative, she
cannot make a speech, she can'tadd lib she can't think on her feet.

(39:45):
She's arisen to where she is probablythrough affirmative action and through i'll say,
dating some very important men. That'show she got where she is.
But on the but you know something. But on the other hand, she
would be just as controllable as JoeBiden. True and just fyi in terms

(40:08):
of popularity ratings, she is catchingup with tooth decay. This is true.
But look, if she can,we can. We're buy the first
two years of the Biden administration.She could become president and still serve eight
more years. And you and Iboth know they have ways as where's where's
that quote from Benny Uh? Theycontrol who can run for office and who

(40:30):
was allowed to win that office.And if they could have ten full years
of Kamala Harris, they can dowhatever they want in this country. I
think they need to have someone whois more marketable for the people at this
point in time. And that's whyGovernor Whitmer frighteningly, she is out there.

(40:50):
Gavin is Gavin is in there,and that's it. They don't have
anybody beyond those two talking about Hehas he has launched a pack a super
peck, which is interesting. Butboy, he's got some serious rehabited headed
up by Sam Brinton. Wouldn't youwouldn't you have? Wouldn't that be delicious?
Yeah? No, Um, Ithink you. Roger Stone makes the

(41:15):
case get ready for Michelle, andthere are other people that believe that same
thing. I still find that verydifficult. I find that almost impossible to
believe. Number one, she's unqualified. Number two, she's never held a
job that I know of. NumberThree, there's so much to go after.

(41:36):
I was never proud of my husbandof this country until my husband got
elected and all that kind of stuff. Um, I don't know. But
who's gonna go? But who's gonnaOkay number one? Who electing Barack again?
You know who's going to go afterthat? The corporate media certainly isn't.
And in terms of independence the media, we know all that there's a

(42:00):
when you throw out the rules thatyou can't talk anything about somebody of color.
There's a time you throw that outwhen your country is going to hell.
That's why we had a so calledinsurrection in the first place. These
were people who said, what thehell, we're losing our country anyway,
let's go into the capitol, andthen they were severely punished. And by
the way, election integrity has alsogone down the tubes, the idea that

(42:22):
we have a free and ferril ifthat election were held today, would it
be free and fair? Hell no, it wouldn't know. So from that
standpoint, who would elect her?It doesn't matter the security state? Remember
what does it say? You know, it's far superior to control who can
run for office, who is allowedto win that office, and who is

(42:44):
allowed to stay in that office.And that could be Michelle Obama, it
could be but lord, I don'tknow. I well, I'm trying to
Our friend Kevin Roberts has said wehave two more elections. Kevin Roberts said
that on Glenn Beck's show, andthen he said it on Carl and Woolley
in Austin because we I called him, we told him we heard that.

(43:07):
Did you mean that? He said, yes, two election cycles? I
think Michelle Obama comes in in twentytwenty four. I think I think it's
over. I think, where areyou people who don't like Trump? Oh
I don't like his voice, oroh he hadn't mean tweets, or oh
it was she's orange. Over it? Get over it? But where are

(43:27):
you going to live? Where?What are you going to do? If?
If the Democrats consolidate power to theto the point where no other party
can ever win, Canada is kindof a bad place. Oh yeah,
trude, trude, you can't goto Mexico. I think, you know,
maybe that's when we start. Eitherthat whole secession thing of Texas has

(43:49):
kind of always been like, ohyeah, right, maybe we start look
at it. There's a lot ofpeople that are taking a look at that.
It would be as messy as ascollege football realignment. I tell you,
years ago, years ago, Iwrote a column about where would you
be in a revolution? And itwas going through talking about the different types
of people, and you know,to me, it was kind of like

(44:10):
I was looking at people in myown life who would be a patriot,
who would be a snitch, whowould be a just you know, stand
by and be happy to let thingshappen all that type thing, and what
it did was it prompted me togo and back about ten years ago,
NBC had two seasons a show calledRevolution and the Power went Out. And

(44:35):
the power goes out. Maybe wedon't really know if it's worldwide because communication
is so shut down, but certainlythroughout the whole United States. And so
the United States is broken off intoterritories which are controlled by militias. And
it's a pretty brutal place there is, and I haven't gotten into it and
rewatching this series, but there isstill the free State of Texas that's kind

(45:00):
a wild and out. Well,that's pretty cool. That sounds like a
novel I read recently called Rules ofAscension. Well, an interesting I think
I think I've read that, whichI wrote by other way. But let
me know what though, something elsetoo, and watching this again, rewatching
this, there is a whole administrativestate component going on in there too.

(45:20):
That way back then I did nothave the critical eye toward centralized authoritarian control
the way I do now. Oh, I know, I want to rewatch
the Americans too. But Fox Foxdid that too, not Fox News,
but Big Fox was a show calledDark Angel okay, and it was about

(45:40):
an EMP. And I don't stayup at night worrying about things like this,
but EMPs are certainly the biggest threadat elector in Florida. It would
wipe out your grid computers, andas the CCP is setting up their little
bass over there in Florida, areover there in Cuba. If I lived

(46:00):
on the east coast, especially thesoutheast coast, I'd be thinking about that.
I would be thinking, because you'regoing to be right there in very
nice rain. We'll ask me wherei'd go. I'm thinking Mars right now,
if we can care a for hima little bit, and I might
just like try, No Musk isgonna do that. I might just try,

(46:21):
like West failure or something. Sorry, all right, Well that'll pretty
much put the plug in the jug. The bottom line, America under indictment?
Is it Trump they're indicting? Oris it all of us? Where
does it go? How much dowe stand behind him? And when is
it time for a real insurrection?It's coming sooner than later. We'll be

(46:44):
logical, all right, courageous,contagious, please help go out and spread
some around, all right, planetlogic and political pursuits The podcast, Lynn
Wooley, lou An Anderson, we'llsee you next time.
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