July 22, 2023 • 50 mins
‘Tis the season! No, not that one. This one is dangerous. It’s the season of impeachment and how it will end is anyone’s guess. Political Pursuits’ Lou Ann Anderson and Planet Logic’s Lynn Woolley discuss Trump’s impeachment history and how it relates to today’s potential impeachments of Joe Biden, U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas and even Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton.
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Welcome to Planet Logic and Political Pursuitsthe podcast. This is a joint presentation.
I'm Lynn Woolley and my partner islew Anne Anderson. Today's episode Season
of Impeachment. And this is animpeachment in the true sense of the word,
that somebody's brought up for doing somethingthat means that person can't stay in
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an office. But there's also theimpeachment of character, which we saw heavily
weighing on Robert Kennedy Junior this pastweek. And there's so much more.
And on the actual list of peoplewho could get impeached, well, they'd
love to do it again to Trumpif they ever have the chance. There's
Mayorcas, There's Paxton, There's Biden, there's Garland. The list goes on.
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We used to not have impeachments,but once everyone a couple of hundred
years or something like that. Nowit's Thursday exactly, so why don't we
Why don't we just jump right into Biden, because it seems like to
me, if ever a president ofthe United States had done something, hadn't
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done something that he should have done, or whatever, that would lend this
person to impeachment. It's just writtenall over Joe Biden. Well it's coming.
I mean it's not even double barrelsanymore, that it's coming. You've
got these these informant, these whistleblowerswho are coming forward. They're coming forward
from the FBI, They're coming forwardfrom the irs. What they are saying,
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the stories they are telling, thereis now cross cooperation and what's happening.
And then we had Senator Grassly blesshis heart, when we talk about
some people being too old to bein office, well, Chuck Grassley doesn't
fall into that hand going on whatso absolutely and I think maturity age is
only giving him more determination. Butthanks to him, this FD ten twenty
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three document from the FBI was madepublic and that goes through and shows an
informant who back in June of twentytwenty he described meetings and conversations with what
was happening over Barizma. He talksabout the five million dollars being paid to
the Big Guy also known as JoeBiden, another five million being paid to
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Trump out and out Hunter, bribeto Hunter, yes, thank you,
out and out bribery in order toinfluence the Ukrainian, the Ukrainian you know,
policy that was going forward. Well, let me throw this out and
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this whole thing with this bribery fromthe guy who is the founder of Bisma.
He said to have seventeen audio recordings, if I'm not mistaken, and
we're doing a lot of this justout of our head. But I think
two of those were with Joe himself. Absolute, that's my recollection. Fifteen
or so we're with Hunter, andhe made those recordings to save his own
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skin in case there was lying afoot, which I think Peter Strok would
call it an insurance policy. Absolutely, And let me just ask you this.
I mean, we could have calledthis episode the Smoking Guns too.
I mean, what does it takefor a president of the United States to
be impeached if this sort of thingdoesn't do it. If a five million
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dollar bribe directly to the man whois now occupying the Oval office and I
absolutely refused to refer to him aspresident, and another five million dollar bribe
to his coked up son, andthe border is wide open and people are
coming in and children are dying offentnel, and we had to withdraw from
Afghanistan, where we left Americans behindand a lot of dead bodies and people
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clinging to airplane wings trying to getout of that god forsaken miss and it
could not have been done worse leftWe left millions of dollars of equipment an
ammunition Ukraine, you know. Well. But also now during you know,
the last week or so, Biden'sannounced to the world that oh we're kind
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of running short of ammunition as well, running short of ammunition Lewan and almost
our strategic oil reserve almost completely gone. That is a national security issue,
in a national security breach, whyhaven't we impeached? And as we are
on the global stage losing the confidenceof people across the world on every front,
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imaginable next month in Durban, SouthAfrica, you're going to have the
Bricks Nation gathering and they're putting togethertheir plan to take over a put together
some type of structure that will takeover as the reserve currency. And once
that happens, that puts us evenmore dire situation with the economy in terms
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of our lack of stability with thedollar inflation, that's going to be more
of an issue. I mean,there's just a multitude of things, especially
as our federal reserve and our monetarypolicy keeps printing money after money after money,
and we have our debt growing evermore, you know, with every minute
that we sit here. And soI mean, if you were looking to
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destroy our country, this is itthey got. You know, Well,
you're way to go, Joe.You're almost quoting Paul Harvey. If I
were the devil and I wanted tobring down the greatest apple on the tree,
the United States of America, Iwouldn't do anything different than what we're
doing right now. Absolutely almost thatexact same thing. But when you look
at Biden, what he's done hissuccesses, which is only in the destruction
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of this country, Well there's that. The only thing I can think of
that has benefited anybody would be diabeticswho need insulin. He's manipulated that market.
Whether that's a good thing or abad thing, I can count that
maybe as an accomplishment. Everything elsethis man has done has been detrimental to
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the United States of America. Sothe question for me to you is what
does it take a to impeach apresident be for the president's own party to
have a Watergate moment where yeah,okay, Richard Nixon is one of our
party, but this ain't right sowe've got to do something. And I
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don't think Richard Nixon remotely, remotely, in any form or fashion, did
anything compared to what Biden has done. Oh, absolutely, absolutely not.
No. Richard Nixon's worst sin wasthat he was heeding the warnings from President
Eisenhower and reading the tea leaves ofwhat happened to JFK and knew we were
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overdue for an overhaul of this littlething called, oh, the administrative state
swamp, and that's what the militaryindustrial and that's exactly what he was looking
at taking on in his second term. That was the sin for which he
had to be run out. Andyou know, oddly, not to digress
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too much on this, but allthose plumbers and people that went into the
Watergate hotel, son of a Gun, it seems like a lot of them
had some kind of association with theCIA or the FBI as some kind of
confidential informants or something. Not likethe federal government would ever strategically place people
in some kind of event to fomentcontroversy. Well, now I'm going to
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have to call your hand on thatone, because I heard Christopher Ray on
a nationally broadcast on at least onFox I heard Christopher Ray say he didn't
know anything about anybody being embedded inanything on January six. He had no
clue. Now he's the director ofthe FBI. Who would know if he
does it? Well, And youknow, it's just laughable that John Solomon
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has been showing all this video aboutthe pipe bomb being dropped off, and
actually Darren Bedeo at Revolver News hasbeen covering this for several years now.
But anyway, the pipe bombs werediscovered by a civilian who came over to
the Secret Service and said, hey, man, you may want to go
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check that out. That looks likea pipe bomb. And then this good
Samaritan evaporated into the ether and theSecret Service never even caught the name of
the guy. Well, maybe theydidn't catch the name of the guy or
the gal because they knew who itwas because it was one of these people
that were some agent that was downthere acting on behalf of the government,
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and they don't want that to berevealed. I ask you a moment ago,
if you could give me one goodreason not to impeach and remove Joe
Biden. May I answer that question? Sure, it's a good reason not
to do it. Her name isKamala. You are correct, and I
think when you talk about insurance policies, imagine that the worst human being on
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the face of the planet is setto replace you if anything happens to you.
That's a great insurance policy. Imean, Biden needs food tasters constantly,
just to make sure. But louMann, one of these days we're
gonna wake up to the news thatJoe Biden has passed away silently in the
night. That's what I'm afraid of. And then we're gonna have to deal
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with her as president. Timing iseverything, and yes, we will deal
with her as president. One ofthe most interesting things that I heard from
the Turning Point USA conference that wastaking place down in West Palm Beach,
Florida last weekend was Roger Stone andhe was talking. I mean Roger Stone,
loved him, hate him, thinkhe's a flake, whatever. You
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know, He's a guy that's beenaround for a long time. He knows
a lot. And he made theprediction that get ready, folks like it
or not, we will have apresident Kamala Harris. Now what he says
is that it will all be timedand that it's a waiting game right now,
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that they cannot get rid of her, just arbitrarily get rid of her.
So it may be all of thisbribery stuff, it may be an
impeachment over something else. Who knows, but that Biden will either Biden will
in some way resign, he willbe out of office. Kamala will be
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allowed, and that word is usedpurposefully. Kamala will be allowed to take
office for a period of time.With that she gets the distinction of being
the first black woman of the firstwoman president. She will be there for
a short period of time. Shecannot be allowed to be on the ticket.
And you have to replace a womanof color with a woman of color
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coming up. That's exactly who's coming. That Michelle Obama is being prepped to
take over as the nominee, andthat the Obamas will shake down Gavin Newsom,
who has a massive war chest forsix to eight hundred million dollars president,
and that and that and that getto give a little bit of credibility
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to that prediction. Remember, theDemocrats have canceled both New Hampshire and Iowa,
and their first primary or caucus,I'm not sure which it is,
is going to be in South Carolina. That all fits this, Yes,
yeah, it absolutely does. Allright, So again, let me ask
you this, as we move fromBiden ins somebody else with a connection to
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impeachments. What does it take intoday's Democrat party if if Joe Biden ordered
a bomb to be dropped on Chicago? I mean, it would that do
anything? I don't understand it.Jamie Raskin comes on during this whistleblower hearing
and the Robert Kennedy hearing, andhe tries to cover it all up.
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They wanted to kill that hearing onRFK because they didn't like what he was
gonna say. I don't know thatI would like what he was going to
say either, but I don't wantto take his away his ability to say
it. But what does it taketo get the Democrats up? Today's Democrats,
who are nothing like John Kennedy,what does it take to get them
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to say, yeah, we can'tcontinue with this president. The corporate media
loves to act as though we havethis big, these warring factions going on
in the Republican Party, which wedo, no doubt about that. However,
I think the real story that's notdiscussed is that the quiet war maybe
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it's a cold war, so tospeak, that's going on in the Democratic
Party, because I truly do notbelieve that every Democrat thinks that what these
people are going on, the waythose people behaved to that hearing with RFK
was ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous, AndI truly believe there are some Democrats out
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there, are some backbenchers who cannotbe pleased with this. However, Democrats,
you know, and that's to theDemocratic Party's credit, and that they
keep their people in line. Theytow the line. And this is this
isn't even a fight anymore about theleft and the right. This is about
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the administrative state and the people.We have a government, a federal government,
and to some degree in some statesthat have declared war on the people.
And this is about those government structurestrying to maintain their power. And
that's what I think scares them morethan anything. Is an RFK coming in
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there, as of Aveck Ramaswami comingin. There is becoming a very common
themes from some of these candidates.And Donald Trump was really the one that
pioneered a lot of that. Hegot he was fine, he was courting
and receiving Democratic support both in twentysixteen and in twenty twenty and I think
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he's you're seeing even more of thatpotentially coming in twenty twenty four and so
I think that is what scares them, is this message because it's coalescing people
from both the right and left.I fear for the safety of Joe Mansion.
I fear more for the safety ofJnald Trump. Oh, I fear
for that too. But if JoeMansion decides to run on that No Labels
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party, the Democrats will I'm afraidthey will do something drastic to him.
Well, that whole No Labels Party, I think is a real cautious tale,
because I think all that is isa is a mechanism by which to
try and deny Trump. Oh itmaybe, but I don't see. Well,
explain to me then how it worksagainst Trump. It would seem to
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me that Mansion would take more votesaway from Biden than he would take from
Trump. That's why I fear forthe safety of Joe Mansion, right,
I feel for the safety of theother Joe Joe Lieberman. They don't like
him, right right, Well,Well, I just I'm not sure that
Mansion's really going to be the guythat they end up putting up what could
be? Yeah, I mean,I mean what if they what if what
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if they decided to approach of somebodyfrom the reproved his hot dog. He
had his hot dog video the oldday, showing us that he's one of
us, that he can eat ahot dog and discuss politics at the same
time. Yeah. Yeah, atthe county fair and at one of these
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at one of these early states.Yeah, that's absolutely a possibility. But
if you've watched any panels on Cand ND, they are absolutely livid about
the possibility of a mansion ticket onthat note party. I tell you somebody
else who's in there as a thirdparty that could hurt the Democrats. And
you may laugh at this, butI think it's there, and that's Cornell
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West, because you know what iscrazy, as you know, I'd like
to put a adjective in front ofthat that includes bat crazy for me,
as Cornell West has even seemed overthe years. I've listened to an interview
with him and Russell Brand and CornellWest is another one of these people who
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is coming around to see that thiscentralized authority, whether you're on the right
or on the left, has somereal dangers to just the tenants, the
you know, basic principles on whichwe have enjoyed what we know as the
American way of life. And he'sin there too, and you get him
in there stir in the pot again. This is this election is going to
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be close, no matter what Imean. And I don't know if that
close is it going to be?How real that number is going to be
or Biden's got his eighty one millionvotes? You know, my ass?
My ass absolutely well, let meask you this. I don't know what's
going to happen with Biden and impeachment, but they're starting to be some credible
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talk about it. But there's alsoa lot, probably even more credible talk
about impeaching Merrick Garland. I mean, this guy is a shill for the
Democrats. He does whatever the Democratswant, whatever the Democrats need, whenever
they need it, he does it. He is Joe's wingman. He is
absolutely what do you make of that? And then how do you do you
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go ahead and do this even knowingthat Chuck Schumer is running the Senate.
I think that Garland his fate istied to Bidens in that if Biden goes
down on something to do with thebribery and Hunter. That that happening is
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going to expose how corrupted the Departmentof Justice has been in the investigations of
all of those cases, all ofthose cases related to Hunter, related to
Joe Beizma, you know, justeverything, the IRS investigations, everything that
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has been so corruptly handled in theBiden is going to point the finger back
at Garland. And I think that'swhen it would be almost kind of a
one two punch that if Biden goes, I think it's going to expose that
Garland has been exactly the shield thatyou just well, all right, so
there's there's a big three there.There's Biden, there's Garland, and there's
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Christopher Ray. If Biden quietly resignsbefore the impeachment citing health issues, I'm
sure that is to Garland's advantage.Rell It could be because it may it
may help to shut some of thatthose things down. I don't know that
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I personally would hate to see that, but realistically, because you know the
other thing, Lynn, I hadsomebody asked me about a local issue here
the other day and said, youknow, aren't you upset about that?
And it was you know, Ijust had to. I kind of stopped
for a minute because it is somethingthat kind of would ordinarily annoy me,
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And I said, you know,we have so many other major issues that
keep me away. Bake at night. Absolutely, I don't sleep like I
once did. And I said,that just can't even make it up on
my list of the top ten,because it's just it's such nonsense compared to
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I'm not convinced that I'm gonna evenmy way of life is even going to
look remotely the same in five yearsas it does today. And today it
isn't anywhere near the same as itwas five years ago. Well that's absolutely
and so and so yeah, andso that's where in all of this it's
like, well, okay, sowhat do we want? I mean,
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if you ask me that question,here's what I would say. I would
say, I would like a toget rid of a lot of the administrative
state. I think the Department ofJustice we probably need. We need a
Treasury Department. We need a Departmentof War forgot Department of Defense. We
need a Department of War, andperhaps a Department of State. I'm not
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really seeing anything past that that weneed. We don't need an education department.
We don't need an interior department,we don't need a commerce department.
So get all that out of theway, and then I say, the
city councils have something called a consentagenda, which I don't like a whole
lot because it just glosses over alot of stamp But shouldn't The Federal Communications
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Commission should be taken down as well, but it has to be replaced with
something because you have to make thosethose rules. But any what they call
rulemaking, I'd like to know thatmy congressman has looked at well, not
particularly my congressman, because I don'treally feel like I have one right now,
but I would like to know thata congressman, that the Congress has
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looked at this and has actually votedon it. Because right now, all
of these government bureaucracies can make rulesand they have the force of law,
and they don't have that ability underthe Constitution unless they're challenged. And even
if they are challenged, have alegal challenge, then you have to have
private funds come to mount the challengewhile they have our funds to defend it
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and defend it all day long.Rasmussen had a real interesting poll out earlier
this week on asking about the consentof the governed. This comes to mind
when you're talking about your congressman andyou're wishing that you felt more representation.
And the findings, I don't rememberthe exact numbers, but the gist of
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it was both Republicans and Democrats nolonger feel as though our government is one
that reflects consent of the governed.They feel that their elected representatives are more
responsive and have more loyalty to adonor class, to a party, not
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to the people. That's a very, very scary and the Democrats you,
as you stated earlier in this podcast, the Democrats are great at whipping their
party into almost no dissent at all. I think I can't help but think
I pray that there are reasonable mindedDemocrats, and I know a few who
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are as horrified of what they seein their party as many of us are.
I mean, I'm massively I meandisappointed isn't even a strong enough word.
And how I feel about the RepublicanParty as a whole, The National
Republican Party, our state party Iam pleased with, but the National Party
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Rana McDaniel and the rest of theparty. No, Mitch, Kevin,
No, no, no, Yeah. It never ceases to amaze me.
When I read a story, it'lltypically be on CNN or Politico or someplace
like that it says, Kevin McCarthyhas a big problem, and that problem
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is whipping the conservative wing of theRepublican Party into shape. And I'm going
way, way, way way.Wait wait wait, I'm part of the
conservative wing of the Republican Party.I'm ultra conservative. It's hard to get
to the right of me, veryhard. I am right wing in the
morning, at noon and when thesun goes down. And if that's not
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Kevin McCarthy, if he's not outthere a supporting the validity and the everlasting
authority of the Constitution of the UnitedStates, followed by in this order rule
of law, and then way downsomewhere else, precedent, precedent. If
we went by precedent, we stillhave slavery, all right. So that's
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what I want. I want somebodythat believes that that that First Amendment to
the Constitution, otherwise known as theBill of Rights or the First ten Amendments,
that those are sacri saint, thatthey cannot be trampled upon. For
any reason whatsoever. And I don'talways see that in my party. No,
No, we don't. We don't. And it's it's not only do
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we not see it, but thejourney away from those tenants seems as though
it's getting faster and faster. Well, all right, so that takes care
of Biden and Garland Mayorcas. Let'sjust throw him into here really quickly.
Uh. Is Majorcas an open bordersguy? Or is Mayorcas simply doing what
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whoever is pulling Biden's strings wants?I would guess probably both. I think
probably both. I mean, hejust when he when he's there testifying,
when you've seen interviews with him,I don't get a real sense that he's
he's real strongly American, Frankly,you know, I don't. I don't
get a sense of loyalty to controlAmaswami, who has a funny sounding name,
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is far more American. Oh mygod, absolutely abs without a doubt,
without a doubt. And um sono majorchis And I mean I laughed
at Eric Adams this week, wasin the media again, just winding about
how hard it is in New Yorkwhen they have all these illegal immigrants coming
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up there and the city is justbursting at the scene. I don't know.
I can't help but think that joyBehar probably has an extra bedroom or
two she could put some of thosepeople up in. But anyway, I
think that as that continues on,that these big cities do do continue to
feel the pressure that you know placesdown in in on the border have been
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feeling for del Rio. I thinkthey know a little bit about pressure to
Yeah, yeah, So anyway,I think that that's going to bring something
to I mean, Majorcas I almostthink is kind of the low hanging fruit.
Well exactly, that's why we lefthim to last in other than that
guy from Texas will talk about injust a moment, but if we could.
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It just seems like if you takean oath to do a certain thing,
and the number one thing government issupposed to do, in my mind,
is not provide us housing. Idon't think it's to make sure we
have a minimum income. I thinkthe number one thing that our government is
supposed to do is protect the bordersof the United States of America from invasion.
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That's number one, two, three, four and five. If they
don't do that, they're worthless.And Biden has an open borders policy.
It's implemented by Alejandro Majorcas and heldup and propped up by Merrick Garland.
Those three need to go. Andthen we got Kamala, and as you
say, we're going to have todeal with that, let me ask you
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that they're going to have to.I think they're at Kamala. They put
her in there though they can't.She's just going to have to have it
on autocons. She's a poc,yeah, and so you know you've got
to treat her with kid gloves.Now, let me ask you about somebody.
I never hear any anything about impeachingthis particular person, and personally,
I wouldn't impeach him either. Iwould charge him with I'm not really with
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incitement of assassination. And that isChuck Schumer, the Senate majority leader,
who stood on the steps of theSupreme Court. And let me just paraphrase
because I don't have a print out. I'm warning you, Gore Such I'm
warning you Kavanaugh, you have reapedthe whirlwind. You will not know what
hit you. And then, parenthetically, if you don't rule the way we
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want, right and then somebody goesand tries to shoot Kavanaugh, who I
think is a weasel too, butthat's a different podcast. And he was
on the record before having said thatabout when Trump about how he was playing
with fire going after the administrative statebecause the CIA and those agencies. I
can't remember what as they have everyway but Sunday to come back and get
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you or something. I mean,that was another maybe they shureped you know.
That's part of draining the swamp bigtime. You know I did penance.
Yes, I want to talk aboutthat. I was afraid you would.
Yeah, I liked it. Ilike to hear. Okay, So
Jim carl and I this was lastTuesday, Jim Cardle and I are doing
our show at Talked thirteen seventy dotcom and we're talking about who does what
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and keeps promises and blah blah blah, and you know how good Trump would
be and if he were reelecting allthat. And I said, well,
the only thing it disappointed me wasthat he didn't finish the wall and make
Mexico pay for it, and hedid not complete anywhere close to draining the
swamp. Well, Cardinal got onme a little bit. But then my
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very close friend, the lady oflodging, whom I have a very intimate
relationship with, said what the hellare you talking about's she was listening over
the internet. Valid question, andshe said, well, you stop being
so pompous. I said, well, well was I Where was I wrong?
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I wasn't wrong? She said,no, but chump comes in.
He's never been in politics, hedoesn't have anybody on his side. Everybody's
everybody's fighting him, including legions ofRepublicans and so called conservatives, and you
expect him to perform miracles in fouryears while the Democrats are out to get
him and the media is on himevery night. And I said, okay,
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okay, okay. So then Iget over to the Texas Public Policy
Foundation and nobody said it in thatterms, but I kind of got the
same message from a very good friendover there. So the next morning I
had to go, oh, sorryabout that, let me rethink. And
then I was thinking, lou Ann'sgoing to get on me about this too.
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Oh you damn straight. I amall right. Number One Mexico remaining
Mexico was huge. He did buildportions of the wall. He had materials
out there to have more built.In fact, some of those materials I
think we're supposedly still out there.I don't know if they've degraded to a
point that they would be usable.Remember the fight that he had to have
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even trying to get money built inthat wall. It wasn't first he had
to move money over to Yes,oh, and that was caused fire store,
absolutely because he because it was involvingmilitary funds. And to your point,
yes, I agree, it's nationalsecurity, which is kind of the
function of the military to keep thatwall, to secure that border. And
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that was the logic that he wasusing. So anyway, he had that
going on, but he had,Yes, it wasn't that he didn't have
the help of a staff. Hehad people actively working against him. And
one of the most important things thathe's doing right now, and I've mentioned
this to you before, and it'sbecoming they're becoming more and more open about
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it. In fact, there werea couple of speakers at down A turning
point that we're talking about this isthere are several several efforts under way right
now to utilize something called Schedule F, which is in the White House Personnel
Policy, so to speak, andit is about addressing personnel immediately upon going
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into office. As soon as thepresident takes office, there's something like four
thousand positions that they have that theycan appoint. Trump went in last time
completely ill prepared, and I thinkthe Trump team will openly say we were
ill prepared, and we had badadvice, we had people we missed.
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We made the mistake of trusting peopleto know the second time, whether it's
from Attica, White House, arewherever. Because he can still be elected
president no matter what they do tohim. If I'm understanding the law,
and if you understand it different,bring this up. But I think I
think what he has got to dois he's got to find a team of
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advisors after the election, if assuminghe wins, to map out who we
need as as as attorney General,as the White House, Jeff standing,
it can't be swappers. And Ithink that as being done. And if
the last four years hadn't shown who'swith him and who's against him, nothing
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would. And so there are peoplethat are doing that. And I mean
there's people Russ's vote who you probablydon't know, Jeff Clark, who you
probably don't know him. I mean, there are people out there that are
involved with this, someone who youdo know and think very highly of as
do I is the Heritage Foundation.Heritage Heritage Kevin has a unit that's working
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on staffing for the White House,and so that's something and that's something that
is so important that they're understanding thatwithout having that personnel ready to go,
because it's not you can't go inand just take off the top layer that
in order to really affect to makesure those policies get implemented, it has
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to go down multiple layers to yourrank and file people. Yes, and
the rank and file people are notall the jewels that we hear they are
at the FBI either. I hearHannity say this. You know, I'm
not upset with the rank and filethat are in their working every day and
doing their duty. Some of themI better, I absolutely am. Some
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of those are fine, but someof them are not. That's right.
Lisa Page and Peter Struck were kindof rank and file. Let me tell
you a little story since you broughtup the Heritage Foundation. I get off
the air in Austin at nine o'clock. We usually have a few little things
to do, some commercials to record. I get in the car and drive
home do other things in the afternoonand I'd dial around, so I had
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WAI on Glenn Beck show, andGlenn was in the middle of a heated
interview. I did not catch thebeginning, so I was not aware of
who it was. But this guywas saying, we have two election cycles
left, two election cycles left.He said, we've got to do something
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by the end of that second electioncycle or this country is gone as we
know it. And he said itwill not be recoverable. And back pushed
him, he said, what areyou talking about. He says, well,
if the Democrats win this cycle andwe have another four years at Joe
Biden or whoever replaces him, imaginewhat it's going to be like and the
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country will be in deep dudo.And then if we don't win the next
cycle, it's just basically they've gotit forever because they will be able to
fix things. They'll have it forever. We will never have freedom, the
Constitution will go away, YadA YadAYadA, And it hit me who that
voice was. It was Kevin Roberts. I've heard him say that too,
so Jim and I, Carl andI called him the next day and we
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got him on our show and wehad that same conversation, the Heritage Foundation,
the Texas Public Policy Foundation, theEpoch Times. We're not devoid of
Hillsdale College. There are some forcesfor good out there, but it's like
us against this bureaucratic state, andit's not a fair fight. They have
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the power, and that's where wehave got to pray that people start engaging.
People like you and I have beenhere doing it for a long time,
but other people who aren't engaged,who are out trying to work to
make a living. We've got tojust pray. But we also have to
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use things like this podcast, likethe articles that we write on WB daily
to reach people and let them knowthat your way of life is at risk.
Your way of life is at risk. You know. You may think
that the library books in your school, which we will be talking about a
lot in the upcoming weeks, thatthat's the worst thing happening well, or
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the borders the worst thing happening,yes, Or the economy, the fact
that your inflation, Yeah, theyare sending one hundred and fifty billion dollars
to the Ukraine war. And thepoint is not one of those answers is
wrong. Unfortunately they are correct.It's all of the above, and there
are so many ways in which wesee that our lives are being damaged,
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our lives are being destroyed, ourlives are being hurt. And yes,
I agree that we are. Weare rapidly approaching a point at no return.
And so whatever your issue is youwant to hang your hat on,
the point is wake up and startpaying attention. And that includes, you
know, a lot of different things. But you know, hopefully COVID started
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creating some cynicism and that's one ofthe things we need, cynicism versus complacency.
You know, my granddaughter Natalie,she told me the other day,
she confessed to something that she didaround the house. She said, if
you noticed one of your books wasmissing, she said, I took it.
I said, oh, what areyou going to do with it?
She says, oh, it's backon your shelf. She said, I
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read it in a week. Isaid, well, what book did you
take? She said, nineteen eightyfour. I said, did you notice
anything it seem familiar? Anything seemedfamiliar. And we had a nice discussion
about that. I was proud ofher for reading that book. I would
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have begged her to read it ifI'd known she was interested in it.
How much of that has come true. It's just absolutely crazy to think that.
And I bring that up to relateit to the hearing on can I
even say this on censorship where kjr. Was censored during a hearing on
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censorship? Does this sound like newspeak? Does this sound like freedom is
slavery? I mean it's straight outof the pages of nineteen eighty four.
Well, and that's one of thethings that I that does give me hope
again is when you see because notonly with RFK that day, but there
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was Emma Joe Morrison who was workingfor the Post at the time. She's
now a bright Bard editor. Shewas one of the writers for the Laptop
from Hell story, and in factshe was the one who Rudy Giuliani and
Steve Bannon first approached with it,and she was the one that actually took
and pitched it to the Post andkind of fought the battle to get it
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even rolling. But also who elsewas there? No, it wasn't Matt
Taiebe. It was Oh, therewas that woman that was there. Person
that was some shill, that was, you know, a Minister of truth
type person. But then there wasalso a guy that was involved with that
lawsuit. That was all the censorshipthat I think came out of Missouri and
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Louisiana. But the Twitter files havebeen such a blessing, even though the
corporate media, of course has downplayedit, but it's given even more opportunity.
Glenn Greenwald has been long been someonewho has been questioning authority. He
used to be a regular on Tucker. But you now have Matt Taiebe,
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you have Barry Weiss, you haveyou know, all of these liberal reporters.
You do have from the political sphere. You have Tulsea Gabbert, and
I just would all throw in there, just kind of as this little side
note. Watched Tulsey. She's notfinished. No, I don't think she
is easy, and so that's goingto be something interesting. But you see
people even on the podcast level.You see people at Russell br Russell Brand
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has a very popular podcast, andI will tell you I'll listen to it
multiple times. I think RFK Junioris still a left wing Democrat and I
wouldn't agree with a ton of stuffGlenn Greenwald espouses, and probably not everything
Tulse Gabbert espouses. But that's threeexamples of someone who people who have been
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on the other side of the aislethat are not always wrong. But I
go back to that same thing myfriend who said, you know, was
I not upset about this local issue? And I said, We've got so
many big issues right now. Ican't even get over here to spend time
arguing about that. And that's whereI think we're going as a nation.
That's where I hope, I praywe are going as a nation that we
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are seeing the people the rfk's,the Tulsa Gabbert's, the Taiebe, the
Glenn Greenwald, those people that arecoming along as well as those of us
and especially the populist right, whichTucker has certainly emerged as one of the
premiere preeminent voices in that, whoare seeing we've got such bigger problems with
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this out of control government that istargeting people, and if we don't get
that under control, all bets areoff on capital gains. And you're so
what I'm saying is that I amhopeful that possibly we could have this coming
together of enough people and it's notand that these media figures and political figures
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I'm talking about they are important,But the thing is that that mindset has
to filter down to the general population, and I think there's enough disruption in
people's lives. We're in what couldbe called a fourth turning. And I
mean culturally there are these turnings,and the fourth turning is chaos, and
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they usually last about twenty years,and we're toward the end of that twenty
year period. The question is usuallyfrom the chaos, there is some significant
event, a war, a seriouswar, which the idea that we are,
you know, in World War threewith China. I mean, we're
already in a war with China.Most people don't want to acknowledge it.
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But if we can emerge from that, I think we can emerge much stronger,
and then we can get back toarguing about capital gains. Well,
yeah, I mean I think,But just as an aside, I think
our big adversaries on the international internationalstage, I list them in a different
order than most people. I thinkour biggest problem is China, absolutely.
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I think our second biggest problem isMexico. I would put perhaps Russia number
three, but then I would gowith Iran and North Korea. But most
people don't put Mexico in that oprahA door Omlo is no friend of the
United They want to join the Brickswhich is the most frightening thing. People
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don't understand what the Bricks is.The Bricks nation which is Brazil, Russia,
India, China, and South Africa. But now there's about twenty nations
that have joined that association, andthey are more what are considered developing countries
who are basically banning together. Andthey are not a pro American. They
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are generally not pro American. Indiahas been an ally and would like to
be an ally, but in thesame way we keep talking about how the
Biden foreign policy is pushing Russia intothe arms of China. Well, India
has got to protect itself and they'rekind of seeing bricks as the way to
go with that. And so no, and China is spreading so much money
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around all over with built road initiation, I mean, and even in from
Mexico. Where do you think thebase ingredients for that fentanyl is coming from
China? Yeah? Obviously, yeah, and they were making it over there
now they're making it. This ismy objection to Elon Musk. I just
wish he would get the hell outof China. I expected of Apple,
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I certainly expected of Microsoft. Iexpected of the NBA, but I do
not expect it of Elon. Mustabout John told me just real quick.
John told me that he read inthe Wall Street Journal just this week that
Elon's building a big Tesla plant inGermany. I thought that was interesting.
It's interesting. Yeah. Yeah.The one other person that the whole impeachment
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thing has really coalesced around and wejust have a couple of moments. But
Attorney General of Texas who was nowsuspended because he has been impeached and the
trial will be in September, isKen Paxton. Paxton has an interesting and
colorful story behind him with the developerNate Paul in Austin and all the things
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that they've done. But on theother hand, he was reelected handily and
he sues the Biden administration and hasbeen effective suing the Biden administration working with
the Texas Public Policy Foundation. Yourthoughts in the same way we were talking
earlier about having congressmen and elected representatives, including state representatives, who we don't
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feel like really promote our interests serveour interests. Kin Paxton is one individual,
and I think that his return tooffice, the numbers that he was
supported by with his votes show thatpeople react to Paxton. I think he's
got some issues, but then again, I'm not sure they're in anybody down
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there in that state that's a castof first Stone, Yeah, exactly.
But in terms of him representing theinterests of the people of Texas, I
would say, of anybody in thestate of Texas elected, I would say,
Ken Paxton has done more representing myinterests than anybody else. And I
think that's a very common feeling throughoutthe Republican Party. And I think that
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that the elected Republicans are playing withfire if they impeach him, But I'm
not sure they won't. Okay,you think it's daide feeling though, that
is of the of the big shotsin Austin. Is he the guy that
really wanted to get Paxton impeach?Would it would appear? So? Now?
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Do I think that that's strictly ofhis own of his own thought.
No. I think there's a federalinterest in this too, because the Feds
have hated Paxton because he is investigatinghim. Yes, yes, And so
as you see that, as yousee with like some of this voting stuff,
the Michigan AG's going after some individualsover some just nonsensical election crimes having
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to do with the electors back withthe electoral College in twenty twenty. Unfortunately
ags in Georgia and Arizona. Arizona. That guy's a cartel lawyer. He
stole the Arizona a G race froma Bahama day the same way that um
that Katie Hobbs stole it from.Carry Lake says, let's find a few
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votes. Paxton is a big one, is a big fish to get rid
of. So I don't think it'sjust failing. But he's the he's the
front guy. I think it's amatter of failing. Could be gone anyway.
But if you're going to go tryand kill the king, you better
kill the king. And so Ithink it will be interesting to see what
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happens. But you know it almostyou kind of wonder and haven't watched this
legislative session. I worry because ofall the horse trading that goes on.
It's like, okay, you knowwe had the stale made over property taxes,
especially between the House and the Senate. Well, so pat Patrick got
his wish list on the property taxthing. Pretty much it was his side.
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He got the whole owner of rightexemption. Yeah, you know,
and so we're not going to haveschool choice. That's been Abbot's big,
big, hot button issue. Butwe're not going to have that special session
until after the trial. Yeah,the trial, and so we'll see what
happens with that. But you know, I hope that we don't just have
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a wish list of all the bigthree and Okay, if everybody gets there
their want, then we can livewith that, you know, and the
people of Texas be damned. That'smy fear. Well, I'm wrong to
be continued, because we certainly arein a weird season that we just referred
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to as the season of impeachment,and we will certainly see what happens.
We are living in I think inthe time of the old Chinese curse.
May you live in interesting times.It's uncharted territorial I can say, as
courage is contagious, please go outand help spread some around. All right,
Well, I'll just say be logicaland goodbye for planet logic and from
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political pursuits. We'll see
Welcome to Planet Logic and Political Pursuitsthe podcast. This is a joint presentation.
I'm Lynn Woolley and my partner islew Anne Anderson. Today's episode Season
of Impeachment. And this is animpeachment in the true sense of the word,
that somebody's brought up for doing somethingthat means that person can't stay in
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an office. But there's also theimpeachment of character, which we saw heavily
weighing on Robert Kennedy Junior this pastweek. And there's so much more.
And on the actual list of peoplewho could get impeached, well, they'd
love to do it again to Trumpif they ever have the chance. There's
Mayorcas, There's Paxton, There's Biden, there's Garland. The list goes on.
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We used to not have impeachments,but once everyone a couple of hundred
years or something like that. Nowit's Thursday exactly, so why don't we
Why don't we just jump right into Biden, because it seems like to
me, if ever a president ofthe United States had done something, hadn't
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done something that he should have done, or whatever, that would lend this
person to impeachment. It's just writtenall over Joe Biden. Well it's coming.
I mean it's not even double barrelsanymore, that it's coming. You've
got these these informant, these whistleblowerswho are coming forward. They're coming forward
from the FBI, They're coming forwardfrom the irs. What they are saying,
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the stories they are telling, thereis now cross cooperation and what's happening.
And then we had Senator Grassly blesshis heart, when we talk about
some people being too old to bein office, well, Chuck Grassley doesn't
fall into that hand going on whatso absolutely and I think maturity age is
only giving him more determination. Butthanks to him, this FD ten twenty
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three document from the FBI was madepublic and that goes through and shows an
informant who back in June of twentytwenty he described meetings and conversations with what
was happening over Barizma. He talksabout the five million dollars being paid to
the Big Guy also known as JoeBiden, another five million being paid to
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Trump out and out Hunter, bribeto Hunter, yes, thank you,
out and out bribery in order toinfluence the Ukrainian, the Ukrainian you know,
policy that was going forward. Well, let me throw this out and
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this whole thing with this bribery fromthe guy who is the founder of Bisma.
He said to have seventeen audio recordings, if I'm not mistaken, and
we're doing a lot of this justout of our head. But I think
two of those were with Joe himself. Absolute, that's my recollection. Fifteen
or so we're with Hunter, andhe made those recordings to save his own
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skin in case there was lying afoot, which I think Peter Strok would
call it an insurance policy. Absolutely, And let me just ask you this.
I mean, we could have calledthis episode the Smoking Guns too.
I mean, what does it takefor a president of the United States to
be impeached if this sort of thingdoesn't do it. If a five million
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dollar bribe directly to the man whois now occupying the Oval office and I
absolutely refused to refer to him aspresident, and another five million dollar bribe
to his coked up son, andthe border is wide open and people are
coming in and children are dying offentnel, and we had to withdraw from
Afghanistan, where we left Americans behindand a lot of dead bodies and people
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clinging to airplane wings trying to getout of that god forsaken miss and it
could not have been done worse leftWe left millions of dollars of equipment an
ammunition Ukraine, you know. Well. But also now during you know,
the last week or so, Biden'sannounced to the world that oh we're kind
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of running short of ammunition as well, running short of ammunition Lewan and almost
our strategic oil reserve almost completely gone. That is a national security issue,
in a national security breach, whyhaven't we impeached? And as we are
on the global stage losing the confidenceof people across the world on every front,
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imaginable next month in Durban, SouthAfrica, you're going to have the
Bricks Nation gathering and they're putting togethertheir plan to take over a put together
some type of structure that will takeover as the reserve currency. And once
that happens, that puts us evenmore dire situation with the economy in terms
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of our lack of stability with thedollar inflation, that's going to be more
of an issue. I mean,there's just a multitude of things, especially
as our federal reserve and our monetarypolicy keeps printing money after money after money,
and we have our debt growing evermore, you know, with every minute
that we sit here. And soI mean, if you were looking to
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destroy our country, this is itthey got. You know, Well,
you're way to go, Joe.You're almost quoting Paul Harvey. If I
were the devil and I wanted tobring down the greatest apple on the tree,
the United States of America, Iwouldn't do anything different than what we're
doing right now. Absolutely almost thatexact same thing. But when you look
at Biden, what he's done hissuccesses, which is only in the destruction
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of this country, Well there's that. The only thing I can think of
that has benefited anybody would be diabeticswho need insulin. He's manipulated that market.
Whether that's a good thing or abad thing, I can count that
maybe as an accomplishment. Everything elsethis man has done has been detrimental to
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the United States of America. Sothe question for me to you is what
does it take a to impeach apresident be for the president's own party to
have a Watergate moment where yeah,okay, Richard Nixon is one of our
party, but this ain't right sowe've got to do something. And I
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don't think Richard Nixon remotely, remotely, in any form or fashion, did
anything compared to what Biden has done. Oh, absolutely, absolutely not.
No. Richard Nixon's worst sin wasthat he was heeding the warnings from President
Eisenhower and reading the tea leaves ofwhat happened to JFK and knew we were
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overdue for an overhaul of this littlething called, oh, the administrative state
swamp, and that's what the militaryindustrial and that's exactly what he was looking
at taking on in his second term. That was the sin for which he
had to be run out. Andyou know, oddly, not to digress
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too much on this, but allthose plumbers and people that went into the
Watergate hotel, son of a Gun, it seems like a lot of them
had some kind of association with theCIA or the FBI as some kind of
confidential informants or something. Not likethe federal government would ever strategically place people
in some kind of event to fomentcontroversy. Well, now I'm going to
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have to call your hand on thatone, because I heard Christopher Ray on
a nationally broadcast on at least onFox I heard Christopher Ray say he didn't
know anything about anybody being embedded inanything on January six. He had no
clue. Now he's the director ofthe FBI. Who would know if he
does it? Well, And youknow, it's just laughable that John Solomon
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has been showing all this video aboutthe pipe bomb being dropped off, and
actually Darren Bedeo at Revolver News hasbeen covering this for several years now.
But anyway, the pipe bombs werediscovered by a civilian who came over to
the Secret Service and said, hey, man, you may want to go
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check that out. That looks likea pipe bomb. And then this good
Samaritan evaporated into the ether and theSecret Service never even caught the name of
the guy. Well, maybe theydidn't catch the name of the guy or
the gal because they knew who itwas because it was one of these people
that were some agent that was downthere acting on behalf of the government,
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and they don't want that to berevealed. I ask you a moment ago,
if you could give me one goodreason not to impeach and remove Joe
Biden. May I answer that question? Sure, it's a good reason not
to do it. Her name isKamala. You are correct, and I
think when you talk about insurance policies, imagine that the worst human being on
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the face of the planet is setto replace you if anything happens to you.
That's a great insurance policy. Imean, Biden needs food tasters constantly,
just to make sure. But louMann, one of these days we're
gonna wake up to the news thatJoe Biden has passed away silently in the
night. That's what I'm afraid of. And then we're gonna have to deal
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with her as president. Timing iseverything, and yes, we will deal
with her as president. One ofthe most interesting things that I heard from
the Turning Point USA conference that wastaking place down in West Palm Beach,
Florida last weekend was Roger Stone andhe was talking. I mean Roger Stone,
loved him, hate him, thinkhe's a flake, whatever. You
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know, He's a guy that's beenaround for a long time. He knows
a lot. And he made theprediction that get ready, folks like it
or not, we will have apresident Kamala Harris. Now what he says
is that it will all be timedand that it's a waiting game right now,
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that they cannot get rid of her, just arbitrarily get rid of her.
So it may be all of thisbribery stuff, it may be an
impeachment over something else. Who knows, but that Biden will either Biden will
in some way resign, he willbe out of office. Kamala will be
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allowed, and that word is usedpurposefully. Kamala will be allowed to take
office for a period of time.With that she gets the distinction of being
the first black woman of the firstwoman president. She will be there for
a short period of time. Shecannot be allowed to be on the ticket.
And you have to replace a womanof color with a woman of color
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coming up. That's exactly who's coming. That Michelle Obama is being prepped to
take over as the nominee, andthat the Obamas will shake down Gavin Newsom,
who has a massive war chest forsix to eight hundred million dollars president,
and that and that and that getto give a little bit of credibility
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to that prediction. Remember, theDemocrats have canceled both New Hampshire and Iowa,
and their first primary or caucus,I'm not sure which it is,
is going to be in South Carolina. That all fits this, Yes,
yeah, it absolutely does. Allright, So again, let me ask
you this, as we move fromBiden ins somebody else with a connection to
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impeachments. What does it take intoday's Democrat party if if Joe Biden ordered
a bomb to be dropped on Chicago? I mean, it would that do
anything? I don't understand it.Jamie Raskin comes on during this whistleblower hearing
and the Robert Kennedy hearing, andhe tries to cover it all up.
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They wanted to kill that hearing onRFK because they didn't like what he was
gonna say. I don't know thatI would like what he was going to
say either, but I don't wantto take his away his ability to say
it. But what does it taketo get the Democrats up? Today's Democrats,
who are nothing like John Kennedy,what does it take to get them
(12:37):
to say, yeah, we can'tcontinue with this president. The corporate media
loves to act as though we havethis big, these warring factions going on
in the Republican Party, which wedo, no doubt about that. However,
I think the real story that's notdiscussed is that the quiet war maybe
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it's a cold war, so tospeak, that's going on in the Democratic
Party, because I truly do notbelieve that every Democrat thinks that what these
people are going on, the waythose people behaved to that hearing with RFK
was ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous, AndI truly believe there are some Democrats out
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there, are some backbenchers who cannotbe pleased with this. However, Democrats,
you know, and that's to theDemocratic Party's credit, and that they
keep their people in line. Theytow the line. And this is this
isn't even a fight anymore about theleft and the right. This is about
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the administrative state and the people.We have a government, a federal government,
and to some degree in some statesthat have declared war on the people.
And this is about those government structurestrying to maintain their power. And
that's what I think scares them morethan anything. Is an RFK coming in
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there, as of Aveck Ramaswami comingin. There is becoming a very common
themes from some of these candidates.And Donald Trump was really the one that
pioneered a lot of that. Hegot he was fine, he was courting
and receiving Democratic support both in twentysixteen and in twenty twenty and I think
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he's you're seeing even more of thatpotentially coming in twenty twenty four and so
I think that is what scares them, is this message because it's coalescing people
from both the right and left.I fear for the safety of Joe Mansion.
I fear more for the safety ofJnald Trump. Oh, I fear
for that too. But if JoeMansion decides to run on that No Labels
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party, the Democrats will I'm afraidthey will do something drastic to him.
Well, that whole No Labels Party, I think is a real cautious tale,
because I think all that is isa is a mechanism by which to
try and deny Trump. Oh itmaybe, but I don't see. Well,
explain to me then how it worksagainst Trump. It would seem to
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me that Mansion would take more votesaway from Biden than he would take from
Trump. That's why I fear forthe safety of Joe Mansion, right,
I feel for the safety of theother Joe Joe Lieberman. They don't like
him, right right, Well,Well, I just I'm not sure that
Mansion's really going to be the guythat they end up putting up what could
be? Yeah, I mean,I mean what if they what if what
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if they decided to approach of somebodyfrom the reproved his hot dog. He
had his hot dog video the oldday, showing us that he's one of
us, that he can eat ahot dog and discuss politics at the same
time. Yeah. Yeah, atthe county fair and at one of these
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at one of these early states.Yeah, that's absolutely a possibility. But
if you've watched any panels on Cand ND, they are absolutely livid about
the possibility of a mansion ticket onthat note party. I tell you somebody
else who's in there as a thirdparty that could hurt the Democrats. And
you may laugh at this, butI think it's there, and that's Cornell
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West, because you know what iscrazy, as you know, I'd like
to put a adjective in front ofthat that includes bat crazy for me,
as Cornell West has even seemed overthe years. I've listened to an interview
with him and Russell Brand and CornellWest is another one of these people who
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is coming around to see that thiscentralized authority, whether you're on the right
or on the left, has somereal dangers to just the tenants, the
you know, basic principles on whichwe have enjoyed what we know as the
American way of life. And he'sin there too, and you get him
in there stir in the pot again. This is this election is going to
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be close, no matter what Imean. And I don't know if that
close is it going to be?How real that number is going to be
or Biden's got his eighty one millionvotes? You know, my ass?
My ass absolutely well, let meask you this. I don't know what's
going to happen with Biden and impeachment, but they're starting to be some credible
(17:34):
talk about it. But there's alsoa lot, probably even more credible talk
about impeaching Merrick Garland. I mean, this guy is a shill for the
Democrats. He does whatever the Democratswant, whatever the Democrats need, whenever
they need it, he does it. He is Joe's wingman. He is
absolutely what do you make of that? And then how do you do you
(17:59):
go ahead and do this even knowingthat Chuck Schumer is running the Senate.
I think that Garland his fate istied to Bidens in that if Biden goes
down on something to do with thebribery and Hunter. That that happening is
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going to expose how corrupted the Departmentof Justice has been in the investigations of
all of those cases, all ofthose cases related to Hunter, related to
Joe Beizma, you know, justeverything, the IRS investigations, everything that
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has been so corruptly handled in theBiden is going to point the finger back
at Garland. And I think that'swhen it would be almost kind of a
one two punch that if Biden goes, I think it's going to expose that
Garland has been exactly the shield thatyou just well, all right, so
there's there's a big three there.There's Biden, there's Garland, and there's
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Christopher Ray. If Biden quietly resignsbefore the impeachment citing health issues, I'm
sure that is to Garland's advantage.Rell It could be because it may it
may help to shut some of thatthose things down. I don't know that
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I personally would hate to see that, but realistically, because you know the
other thing, Lynn, I hadsomebody asked me about a local issue here
the other day and said, youknow, aren't you upset about that?
And it was you know, Ijust had to. I kind of stopped
for a minute because it is somethingthat kind of would ordinarily annoy me,
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And I said, you know,we have so many other major issues that
keep me away. Bake at night. Absolutely, I don't sleep like I
once did. And I said,that just can't even make it up on
my list of the top ten,because it's just it's such nonsense compared to
(20:15):
I'm not convinced that I'm gonna evenmy way of life is even going to
look remotely the same in five yearsas it does today. And today it
isn't anywhere near the same as itwas five years ago. Well that's absolutely
and so and so yeah, andso that's where in all of this it's
like, well, okay, sowhat do we want? I mean,
(20:37):
if you ask me that question,here's what I would say. I would
say, I would like a toget rid of a lot of the administrative
state. I think the Department ofJustice we probably need. We need a
Treasury Department. We need a Departmentof War forgot Department of Defense. We
need a Department of War, andperhaps a Department of State. I'm not
(21:00):
really seeing anything past that that weneed. We don't need an education department.
We don't need an interior department,we don't need a commerce department.
So get all that out of theway, and then I say, the
city councils have something called a consentagenda, which I don't like a whole
lot because it just glosses over alot of stamp But shouldn't The Federal Communications
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Commission should be taken down as well, but it has to be replaced with
something because you have to make thosethose rules. But any what they call
rulemaking, I'd like to know thatmy congressman has looked at well, not
particularly my congressman, because I don'treally feel like I have one right now,
but I would like to know thata congressman, that the Congress has
(21:48):
looked at this and has actually votedon it. Because right now, all
of these government bureaucracies can make rulesand they have the force of law,
and they don't have that ability underthe Constitution unless they're challenged. And even
if they are challenged, have alegal challenge, then you have to have
private funds come to mount the challengewhile they have our funds to defend it
(22:14):
and defend it all day long.Rasmussen had a real interesting poll out earlier
this week on asking about the consentof the governed. This comes to mind
when you're talking about your congressman andyou're wishing that you felt more representation.
And the findings, I don't rememberthe exact numbers, but the gist of
(22:38):
it was both Republicans and Democrats nolonger feel as though our government is one
that reflects consent of the governed.They feel that their elected representatives are more
responsive and have more loyalty to adonor class, to a party, not
(23:02):
to the people. That's a very, very scary and the Democrats you,
as you stated earlier in this podcast, the Democrats are great at whipping their
party into almost no dissent at all. I think I can't help but think
I pray that there are reasonable mindedDemocrats, and I know a few who
(23:30):
are as horrified of what they seein their party as many of us are.
I mean, I'm massively I meandisappointed isn't even a strong enough word.
And how I feel about the RepublicanParty as a whole, The National
Republican Party, our state party Iam pleased with, but the National Party
(23:53):
Rana McDaniel and the rest of theparty. No, Mitch, Kevin,
No, no, no, Yeah. It never ceases to amaze me.
When I read a story, it'lltypically be on CNN or Politico or someplace
like that it says, Kevin McCarthyhas a big problem, and that problem
(24:15):
is whipping the conservative wing of theRepublican Party into shape. And I'm going
way, way, way way.Wait wait wait, I'm part of the
conservative wing of the Republican Party.I'm ultra conservative. It's hard to get
to the right of me, veryhard. I am right wing in the
morning, at noon and when thesun goes down. And if that's not
(24:36):
Kevin McCarthy, if he's not outthere a supporting the validity and the everlasting
authority of the Constitution of the UnitedStates, followed by in this order rule
of law, and then way downsomewhere else, precedent, precedent. If
we went by precedent, we stillhave slavery, all right. So that's
(24:59):
what I want. I want somebodythat believes that that that First Amendment to
the Constitution, otherwise known as theBill of Rights or the First ten Amendments,
that those are sacri saint, thatthey cannot be trampled upon. For
any reason whatsoever. And I don'talways see that in my party. No,
No, we don't. We don't. And it's it's not only do
(25:22):
we not see it, but thejourney away from those tenants seems as though
it's getting faster and faster. Well, all right, so that takes care
of Biden and Garland Mayorcas. Let'sjust throw him into here really quickly.
Uh. Is Majorcas an open bordersguy? Or is Mayorcas simply doing what
(25:47):
whoever is pulling Biden's strings wants?I would guess probably both. I think
probably both. I mean, hejust when he when he's there testifying,
when you've seen interviews with him,I don't get a real sense that he's
he's real strongly American, Frankly,you know, I don't. I don't
get a sense of loyalty to controlAmaswami, who has a funny sounding name,
(26:11):
is far more American. Oh mygod, absolutely abs without a doubt,
without a doubt. And um sono majorchis And I mean I laughed
at Eric Adams this week, wasin the media again, just winding about
how hard it is in New Yorkwhen they have all these illegal immigrants coming
(26:32):
up there and the city is justbursting at the scene. I don't know.
I can't help but think that joyBehar probably has an extra bedroom or
two she could put some of thosepeople up in. But anyway, I
think that as that continues on,that these big cities do do continue to
feel the pressure that you know placesdown in in on the border have been
(26:57):
feeling for del Rio. I thinkthey know a little bit about pressure to
Yeah, yeah, So anyway,I think that that's going to bring something
to I mean, Majorcas I almostthink is kind of the low hanging fruit.
Well exactly, that's why we lefthim to last in other than that
guy from Texas will talk about injust a moment, but if we could.
(27:21):
It just seems like if you takean oath to do a certain thing,
and the number one thing government issupposed to do, in my mind,
is not provide us housing. Idon't think it's to make sure we
have a minimum income. I thinkthe number one thing that our government is
supposed to do is protect the bordersof the United States of America from invasion.
(27:44):
That's number one, two, three, four and five. If they
don't do that, they're worthless.And Biden has an open borders policy.
It's implemented by Alejandro Majorcas and heldup and propped up by Merrick Garland.
Those three need to go. Andthen we got Kamala, and as you
say, we're going to have todeal with that, let me ask you
(28:06):
that they're going to have to.I think they're at Kamala. They put
her in there though they can't.She's just going to have to have it
on autocons. She's a poc,yeah, and so you know you've got
to treat her with kid gloves.Now, let me ask you about somebody.
I never hear any anything about impeachingthis particular person, and personally,
I wouldn't impeach him either. Iwould charge him with I'm not really with
(28:30):
incitement of assassination. And that isChuck Schumer, the Senate majority leader,
who stood on the steps of theSupreme Court. And let me just paraphrase
because I don't have a print out. I'm warning you, Gore Such I'm
warning you Kavanaugh, you have reapedthe whirlwind. You will not know what
hit you. And then, parenthetically, if you don't rule the way we
(28:56):
want, right and then somebody goesand tries to shoot Kavanaugh, who I
think is a weasel too, butthat's a different podcast. And he was
on the record before having said thatabout when Trump about how he was playing
with fire going after the administrative statebecause the CIA and those agencies. I
can't remember what as they have everyway but Sunday to come back and get
(29:19):
you or something. I mean,that was another maybe they shureped you know.
That's part of draining the swamp bigtime. You know I did penance.
Yes, I want to talk aboutthat. I was afraid you would.
Yeah, I liked it. Ilike to hear. Okay, So
Jim carl and I this was lastTuesday, Jim Cardle and I are doing
our show at Talked thirteen seventy dotcom and we're talking about who does what
(29:40):
and keeps promises and blah blah blah, and you know how good Trump would
be and if he were reelecting allthat. And I said, well,
the only thing it disappointed me wasthat he didn't finish the wall and make
Mexico pay for it, and hedid not complete anywhere close to draining the
swamp. Well, Cardinal got onme a little bit. But then my
(30:00):
very close friend, the lady oflodging, whom I have a very intimate
relationship with, said what the hellare you talking about's she was listening over
the internet. Valid question, andshe said, well, you stop being
so pompous. I said, well, well was I Where was I wrong?
(30:21):
I wasn't wrong? She said,no, but chump comes in.
He's never been in politics, hedoesn't have anybody on his side. Everybody's
everybody's fighting him, including legions ofRepublicans and so called conservatives, and you
expect him to perform miracles in fouryears while the Democrats are out to get
him and the media is on himevery night. And I said, okay,
(30:42):
okay, okay. So then Iget over to the Texas Public Policy
Foundation and nobody said it in thatterms, but I kind of got the
same message from a very good friendover there. So the next morning I
had to go, oh, sorryabout that, let me rethink. And
then I was thinking, lou Ann'sgoing to get on me about this too.
(31:03):
Oh you damn straight. I amall right. Number One Mexico remaining
Mexico was huge. He did buildportions of the wall. He had materials
out there to have more built.In fact, some of those materials I
think we're supposedly still out there.I don't know if they've degraded to a
point that they would be usable.Remember the fight that he had to have
(31:26):
even trying to get money built inthat wall. It wasn't first he had
to move money over to Yes,oh, and that was caused fire store,
absolutely because he because it was involvingmilitary funds. And to your point,
yes, I agree, it's nationalsecurity, which is kind of the
function of the military to keep thatwall, to secure that border. And
(31:48):
that was the logic that he wasusing. So anyway, he had that
going on, but he had,Yes, it wasn't that he didn't have
the help of a staff. Hehad people actively working against him. And
one of the most important things thathe's doing right now, and I've mentioned
this to you before, and it'sbecoming they're becoming more and more open about
(32:09):
it. In fact, there werea couple of speakers at down A turning
point that we're talking about this isthere are several several efforts under way right
now to utilize something called Schedule F, which is in the White House Personnel
Policy, so to speak, andit is about addressing personnel immediately upon going
(32:31):
into office. As soon as thepresident takes office, there's something like four
thousand positions that they have that theycan appoint. Trump went in last time
completely ill prepared, and I thinkthe Trump team will openly say we were
ill prepared, and we had badadvice, we had people we missed.
(32:52):
We made the mistake of trusting peopleto know the second time, whether it's
from Attica, White House, arewherever. Because he can still be elected
president no matter what they do tohim. If I'm understanding the law,
and if you understand it different,bring this up. But I think I
think what he has got to dois he's got to find a team of
(33:15):
advisors after the election, if assuminghe wins, to map out who we
need as as as attorney General,as the White House, Jeff standing,
it can't be swappers. And Ithink that as being done. And if
the last four years hadn't shown who'swith him and who's against him, nothing
(33:38):
would. And so there are peoplethat are doing that. And I mean
there's people Russ's vote who you probablydon't know, Jeff Clark, who you
probably don't know him. I mean, there are people out there that are
involved with this, someone who youdo know and think very highly of as
do I is the Heritage Foundation.Heritage Heritage Kevin has a unit that's working
(34:01):
on staffing for the White House,and so that's something and that's something that
is so important that they're understanding thatwithout having that personnel ready to go,
because it's not you can't go inand just take off the top layer that
in order to really affect to makesure those policies get implemented, it has
(34:22):
to go down multiple layers to yourrank and file people. Yes, and
the rank and file people are notall the jewels that we hear they are
at the FBI either. I hearHannity say this. You know, I'm
not upset with the rank and filethat are in their working every day and
doing their duty. Some of themI better, I absolutely am. Some
(34:42):
of those are fine, but someof them are not. That's right.
Lisa Page and Peter Struck were kindof rank and file. Let me tell
you a little story since you broughtup the Heritage Foundation. I get off
the air in Austin at nine o'clock. We usually have a few little things
to do, some commercials to record. I get in the car and drive
home do other things in the afternoonand I'd dial around, so I had
(35:05):
WAI on Glenn Beck show, andGlenn was in the middle of a heated
interview. I did not catch thebeginning, so I was not aware of
who it was. But this guywas saying, we have two election cycles
left, two election cycles left.He said, we've got to do something
(35:29):
by the end of that second electioncycle or this country is gone as we
know it. And he said itwill not be recoverable. And back pushed
him, he said, what areyou talking about. He says, well,
if the Democrats win this cycle andwe have another four years at Joe
Biden or whoever replaces him, imaginewhat it's going to be like and the
(35:51):
country will be in deep dudo.And then if we don't win the next
cycle, it's just basically they've gotit forever because they will be able to
fix things. They'll have it forever. We will never have freedom, the
Constitution will go away, YadA YadAYadA, And it hit me who that
voice was. It was Kevin Roberts. I've heard him say that too,
so Jim and I, Carl andI called him the next day and we
(36:14):
got him on our show and wehad that same conversation, the Heritage Foundation,
the Texas Public Policy Foundation, theEpoch Times. We're not devoid of
Hillsdale College. There are some forcesfor good out there, but it's like
us against this bureaucratic state, andit's not a fair fight. They have
(36:35):
the power, and that's where wehave got to pray that people start engaging.
People like you and I have beenhere doing it for a long time,
but other people who aren't engaged,who are out trying to work to
make a living. We've got tojust pray. But we also have to
(36:55):
use things like this podcast, likethe articles that we write on WB daily
to reach people and let them knowthat your way of life is at risk.
Your way of life is at risk. You know. You may think
that the library books in your school, which we will be talking about a
lot in the upcoming weeks, thatthat's the worst thing happening well, or
(37:16):
the borders the worst thing happening,yes, Or the economy, the fact
that your inflation, Yeah, theyare sending one hundred and fifty billion dollars
to the Ukraine war. And thepoint is not one of those answers is
wrong. Unfortunately they are correct.It's all of the above, and there
are so many ways in which wesee that our lives are being damaged,
(37:40):
our lives are being destroyed, ourlives are being hurt. And yes,
I agree that we are. Weare rapidly approaching a point at no return.
And so whatever your issue is youwant to hang your hat on,
the point is wake up and startpaying attention. And that includes, you
know, a lot of different things. But you know, hopefully COVID started
(38:02):
creating some cynicism and that's one ofthe things we need, cynicism versus complacency.
You know, my granddaughter Natalie,she told me the other day,
she confessed to something that she didaround the house. She said, if
you noticed one of your books wasmissing, she said, I took it.
I said, oh, what areyou going to do with it?
She says, oh, it's backon your shelf. She said, I
(38:22):
read it in a week. Isaid, well, what book did you
take? She said, nineteen eightyfour. I said, did you notice
anything it seem familiar? Anything seemedfamiliar. And we had a nice discussion
about that. I was proud ofher for reading that book. I would
(38:43):
have begged her to read it ifI'd known she was interested in it.
How much of that has come true. It's just absolutely crazy to think that.
And I bring that up to relateit to the hearing on can I
even say this on censorship where kjr. Was censored during a hearing on
(39:04):
censorship? Does this sound like newspeak? Does this sound like freedom is
slavery? I mean it's straight outof the pages of nineteen eighty four.
Well, and that's one of thethings that I that does give me hope
again is when you see because notonly with RFK that day, but there
(39:27):
was Emma Joe Morrison who was workingfor the Post at the time. She's
now a bright Bard editor. Shewas one of the writers for the Laptop
from Hell story, and in factshe was the one who Rudy Giuliani and
Steve Bannon first approached with it,and she was the one that actually took
and pitched it to the Post andkind of fought the battle to get it
(39:49):
even rolling. But also who elsewas there? No, it wasn't Matt
Taiebe. It was Oh, therewas that woman that was there. Person
that was some shill, that was, you know, a Minister of truth
type person. But then there wasalso a guy that was involved with that
lawsuit. That was all the censorshipthat I think came out of Missouri and
(40:14):
Louisiana. But the Twitter files havebeen such a blessing, even though the
corporate media, of course has downplayedit, but it's given even more opportunity.
Glenn Greenwald has been long been someonewho has been questioning authority. He
used to be a regular on Tucker. But you now have Matt Taiebe,
(40:35):
you have Barry Weiss, you haveyou know, all of these liberal reporters.
You do have from the political sphere. You have Tulsea Gabbert, and
I just would all throw in there, just kind of as this little side
note. Watched Tulsey. She's notfinished. No, I don't think she
is easy, and so that's goingto be something interesting. But you see
people even on the podcast level.You see people at Russell br Russell Brand
(41:00):
has a very popular podcast, andI will tell you I'll listen to it
multiple times. I think RFK Junioris still a left wing Democrat and I
wouldn't agree with a ton of stuffGlenn Greenwald espouses, and probably not everything
Tulse Gabbert espouses. But that's threeexamples of someone who people who have been
(41:20):
on the other side of the aislethat are not always wrong. But I
go back to that same thing myfriend who said, you know, was
I not upset about this local issue? And I said, We've got so
many big issues right now. Ican't even get over here to spend time
arguing about that. And that's whereI think we're going as a nation.
That's where I hope, I praywe are going as a nation that we
(41:44):
are seeing the people the rfk's,the Tulsa Gabbert's, the Taiebe, the
Glenn Greenwald, those people that arecoming along as well as those of us
and especially the populist right, whichTucker has certainly emerged as one of the
premiere preeminent voices in that, whoare seeing we've got such bigger problems with
(42:07):
this out of control government that istargeting people, and if we don't get
that under control, all bets areoff on capital gains. And you're so
what I'm saying is that I amhopeful that possibly we could have this coming
together of enough people and it's notand that these media figures and political figures
(42:30):
I'm talking about they are important,But the thing is that that mindset has
to filter down to the general population, and I think there's enough disruption in
people's lives. We're in what couldbe called a fourth turning. And I
mean culturally there are these turnings,and the fourth turning is chaos, and
(42:50):
they usually last about twenty years,and we're toward the end of that twenty
year period. The question is usuallyfrom the chaos, there is some significant
event, a war, a seriouswar, which the idea that we are,
you know, in World War threewith China. I mean, we're
already in a war with China.Most people don't want to acknowledge it.
(43:14):
But if we can emerge from that, I think we can emerge much stronger,
and then we can get back toarguing about capital gains. Well,
yeah, I mean I think,But just as an aside, I think
our big adversaries on the international internationalstage, I list them in a different
order than most people. I thinkour biggest problem is China, absolutely.
(43:37):
I think our second biggest problem isMexico. I would put perhaps Russia number
three, but then I would gowith Iran and North Korea. But most
people don't put Mexico in that oprahA door Omlo is no friend of the
United They want to join the Brickswhich is the most frightening thing. People
(44:00):
don't understand what the Bricks is.The Bricks nation which is Brazil, Russia,
India, China, and South Africa. But now there's about twenty nations
that have joined that association, andthey are more what are considered developing countries
who are basically banning together. Andthey are not a pro American. They
(44:23):
are generally not pro American. Indiahas been an ally and would like to
be an ally, but in thesame way we keep talking about how the
Biden foreign policy is pushing Russia intothe arms of China. Well, India
has got to protect itself and they'rekind of seeing bricks as the way to
go with that. And so no, and China is spreading so much money
(44:45):
around all over with built road initiation, I mean, and even in from
Mexico. Where do you think thebase ingredients for that fentanyl is coming from
China? Yeah? Obviously, yeah, and they were making it over there
now they're making it. This ismy objection to Elon Musk. I just
wish he would get the hell outof China. I expected of Apple,
(45:07):
I certainly expected of Microsoft. Iexpected of the NBA, but I do
not expect it of Elon. Mustabout John told me just real quick.
John told me that he read inthe Wall Street Journal just this week that
Elon's building a big Tesla plant inGermany. I thought that was interesting.
It's interesting. Yeah. Yeah.The one other person that the whole impeachment
(45:31):
thing has really coalesced around and wejust have a couple of moments. But
Attorney General of Texas who was nowsuspended because he has been impeached and the
trial will be in September, isKen Paxton. Paxton has an interesting and
colorful story behind him with the developerNate Paul in Austin and all the things
(45:55):
that they've done. But on theother hand, he was reelected handily and
he sues the Biden administration and hasbeen effective suing the Biden administration working with
the Texas Public Policy Foundation. Yourthoughts in the same way we were talking
earlier about having congressmen and elected representatives, including state representatives, who we don't
(46:22):
feel like really promote our interests serveour interests. Kin Paxton is one individual,
and I think that his return tooffice, the numbers that he was
supported by with his votes show thatpeople react to Paxton. I think he's
got some issues, but then again, I'm not sure they're in anybody down
(46:44):
there in that state that's a castof first Stone, Yeah, exactly.
But in terms of him representing theinterests of the people of Texas, I
would say, of anybody in thestate of Texas elected, I would say,
Ken Paxton has done more representing myinterests than anybody else. And I
think that's a very common feeling throughoutthe Republican Party. And I think that
(47:07):
that the elected Republicans are playing withfire if they impeach him, But I'm
not sure they won't. Okay,you think it's daide feeling though, that
is of the of the big shotsin Austin. Is he the guy that
really wanted to get Paxton impeach?Would it would appear? So? Now?
(47:29):
Do I think that that's strictly ofhis own of his own thought.
No. I think there's a federalinterest in this too, because the Feds
have hated Paxton because he is investigatinghim. Yes, yes, And so
as you see that, as yousee with like some of this voting stuff,
the Michigan AG's going after some individualsover some just nonsensical election crimes having
(47:53):
to do with the electors back withthe electoral College in twenty twenty. Unfortunately
ags in Georgia and Arizona. Arizona. That guy's a cartel lawyer. He
stole the Arizona a G race froma Bahama day the same way that um
that Katie Hobbs stole it from.Carry Lake says, let's find a few
(48:14):
votes. Paxton is a big one, is a big fish to get rid
of. So I don't think it'sjust failing. But he's the he's the
front guy. I think it's amatter of failing. Could be gone anyway.
But if you're going to go tryand kill the king, you better
kill the king. And so Ithink it will be interesting to see what
(48:34):
happens. But you know it almostyou kind of wonder and haven't watched this
legislative session. I worry because ofall the horse trading that goes on.
It's like, okay, you knowwe had the stale made over property taxes,
especially between the House and the Senate. Well, so pat Patrick got
his wish list on the property taxthing. Pretty much it was his side.
(48:57):
He got the whole owner of rightexemption. Yeah, you know,
and so we're not going to haveschool choice. That's been Abbot's big,
big, hot button issue. Butwe're not going to have that special session
until after the trial. Yeah,the trial, and so we'll see what
happens with that. But you know, I hope that we don't just have
(49:17):
a wish list of all the bigthree and Okay, if everybody gets there
their want, then we can livewith that, you know, and the
people of Texas be damned. That'smy fear. Well, I'm wrong to
be continued, because we certainly arein a weird season that we just referred
(49:40):
to as the season of impeachment,and we will certainly see what happens.
We are living in I think inthe time of the old Chinese curse.
May you live in interesting times.It's uncharted territorial I can say, as
courage is contagious, please go outand help spread some around. All right,
Well, I'll just say be logicaland goodbye for planet logic and from
(50:07):
political pursuits. We'll see
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