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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Planet Logic and Political Pursuits the podcast. Today's
episode The California Communist and the Minnesota Marxist. Of course,
lou Anne Anderson of Political Pursuits is here. I'm Lynn
Wooey with Planet Logic lou Anne. We just had this convention.
It got a pretty big number on the ratings, apparently
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maybe slightly higher than what the Republicans did. It's always nice,
I think, to go second in that because I don't
think very many people remember the Republican convention. I'm having
a little difficulty myself thinking back whatever happened with it.
But boy, this Democrat one was absolutely unforgettable for its
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lack of substance.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Personally, I felt like it was a four day episode
of the View. You know, I don't know I can
do without Whoopee joy Sonny all them four days of
those gals, and I mean, I'm.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Pretty much won and done.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
But absolutely it was like four days of the View.
There was no substance. It was all you know, it
was all noise, no signal.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Well, here's the thing that we talked about on the
Carlin Wooley Show today on Talk thirteen seventy, was that
Harris appears to be running for the presidency as if
Donald Trump were the incumbent. I mean, she's literally running
against the last four years, hoping people, I guess will
forget that she and Joe Biden have been in charge
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for the last four years. Did do you get that
feeling as well?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Oh, very much.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeh. She's trying to make herself like the challenger, like
the outsider, because let's face it, these days, being the
outsider is the trendy spot to have, and so you know,
she very much wants to distance herself. I mean, you
were either last one in the room or not. Some
of us actually have a memory and can remember those
last day, you know, last one in the room with
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afghanis stand the borders are casting the tie the tie
breaking vote for the Inflation Reduction Act. Some of us
remember those things, and so that doesn't seem very outsider
ish to me. But that certainly is the angle that
she seems to be going for that and also the
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you know, from the basement strategy, she's just had to
come up a little more you know, ground level, but
equally as as unapproachable.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Well, you know, as we're speaking, it's the third anniversary
of the Afghanistan withdrawal, which to my mind is the worst,
the worst foreign affairs strategic blunder of any president in
my lifetime and maybe of all time. I've never seen
anything like it. But we've just watched on our television
monitors Donald Trump, not Joe Biden.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Nobody knows where Joe Biden is.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Not Joe Biden, but Donald Trump at Arlington National Cemetery
laying a wreath on this anniversary to remember those thirteen
American servicemen that Joe Biden denied were killed in his
debate with Trump.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And when we keep.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Talking about bringing this country together, I can guarantee you
that had Kamala been there, Trump would have been respectful
and courteous to her. And if she truly had any
type of sincerity when she talks about a desire to
bring this country together, why was she not there? Where
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was she what was more important than being there? That
would have been such an opportunity to show that, regardless
of what happens in the next seventy days, there is
unity at least on one thing, respect for our country,
respect for our military. And she couldn't even pull that
one off.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
No, you know, I don't know how much this anniversary
is going to mean, or this Afghanistan withdrawal is going
to mean, because they say a week in Paul of
Texas forever and it's been three years. But those images
are emblazoned in my mind. I will never forget watching
that plane take off and those Afghans trying to get
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the hell out of that god forsaken hell hole over there,
some of them, maybe some of them even falling from
the place.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
The baby's being passed through the crowd, handed over the gate.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Oh yeah, you know that.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
The parents were willing to let them go in order to,
you know, perhaps give them a better life.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
All that although one of the one positive thing gut
wrenching as it was that parade from what two weeks
ago where they had the Taliban invited their BFFs from
Iran and China over and they had the parade celebrating
Biden having left all that equipment over there and you know,
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celebrating their control of Bagram Air Force Base. That was
a good visual to come back and remind the American
public of just what the Biden Harris regime has meant
for our foreign policy stamps.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
In the world.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Well, and as you recall women were not invited to
that celebration over in Afghanistan, which gives you a pretty
good idea of the progress or deprogress that has been
made over there.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
But you know, I still hang on though.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I bet you, I bet you they were there because
there was food to be cooked.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
There were tables to.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
You know, So so yeah, you know they're inclusive. It's
just not inclusive as you know some would like to think.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Not inclusive in a good way. But you know, talking
this morning on our show here in Austin, and I
might mention to people who if this is their first
time to ever listen, you're up in the Dallas Fort
Worth metroplex. I'm in the Austin metropolitan area, and so
we've got about two hundred miles of freeway between us here.
But it is interesting the mental images that people retain.
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One of my big mental images having to do with
that was Joe Biden watching his watch as they were
taking the caskets off the airplane of those thirteen servicemen,
and then later going on television to talk about what
an extraordinary success. I think that's the term he used,
an extraordinary success, that the withdrawal was and I'm thinking,
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and this is the leader of the free world right now,
it should be Joe Biden at that cemetery putting that
wreath up. But he cannot go anywhere near that story,
anywhere near Arlington Cemetery on this anniversary because he would
be ridiculed around the world.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And to add insult to injury, remember, right out of
the gate at the debate in July, he made that
comment about how there had been no military service member
killed on his watch. And I was at a restaurant
here in Plano, Texas, and there was an almost gasp
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from the crowd when he said that, you know, and
so I mean, it's not enough that three years ago
his actions in his response was horrendous. But here just
you know, six weeks ago he doubled down and to
say that those people that no one was killed, you know,
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what do we call those thirteen service members who needlessly
lost their lives?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
It was yeah, And that may not be any Americans
have died in Ukraine or in Gaza, but certainly a
lot of depths that can be attributed to Joe Biden's
choices in his policies, because I don't think we would
have had those two wars without Biden.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Oh, I completely agreed. Agree.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Now I want to ask you, I like to title
these things and when you talk about the California Communist
and the Minnesota Marxist, and I'm using those two terms
kind of interchangeably here, Kamala Harris is is definitely a
California San Francisco Liberal. She reminds me so much in
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the way that she's handling this campaign of the Governor
of California, Gavin Newsom, who I think is the greatest
political spinner in all of history. I've never seen anything
like the way that guy can spin. But Kamala Harris
is going a little bit of a different direction. Instead
of spinning all these bad things and trying to make
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them into good things, she just ignores them. There was
no policy at that convention at all that I could see.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
No, no, there was. It was I mean, it was
like a mean girl convention.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
It was a lot of angry women up there on
the stage, be it know, high profile ones like Hillary
Clinton and Michelle Obama. And I mean, boy didn't Michelle
she was there to normalize, you know, being a racist.
But you had them, and then you just had Eva
Longoria I mean, they just were trotting out retread after
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retread after retread, but they all just were angry. We
had screechy AOC and you know, then they pulled that
nonsense with their special guests for Thursday night. Who I
guess we were pretending it was going to be Beyonce,
and you know, all that was, I would suppose at
this point was just to gen up ratings, because no,
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by by the time Thursday rolled around, I think even.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Some of the the.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Democratic supporters and you know fangirls might have been like, Okay,
we kind of had enough and they were worried that
Kamala wouldn't have any good ratings for a speech, so
we had to get it up, you know, claiming that
we were going to have Beance there, which.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
You know would have been perfect for a main girl convention.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Well, yeah, it was a lot of Hollywood fluff and
no substance, as we have said. But I want to
mention that it is starting to come out now some
things about Kamala Harris's family. Her brother in law apparently
is a grifter in the same mold as Hunter Biden.
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And then we've also got articles out today talking about
who is Donald J. Harris, not Donald J. Trump, but
Donald J. Harris, Kamala's father, who apparently was an angry
Marxist professor of economics. Where do we say, Stanford, I believe,
or someplace like that. All right, and you know the
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apple doesn't far fall from the tree. She is as
Marxist as it comes. But but did you hear any
mention during this convention of her price controls for grocery stores?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Oh, you didn't hear anything about about anything of substance
that you know, in terms of the economy, in terms
of immigration, in terms of inflation, in terms of crime.
You know, the issues that are are repeatedly come up
as the top issues for the American public. You didn't
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hear anything about that. And you also, though I thought,
I thought, telling LYE, you didn't hear anything about the
favorite issues. I mean, you heard a little bit on abortion,
and of course we had the van out there in
the parking lot, you know, ready to kill babies and
snip men. But you didn't hear much about the trans agenda.
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You didn't hear much about you know, DEI, you didn't
hear a whole lot about the green.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
New energy type things.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I mean, all of those favorite times, they weren't really
out there outing either, because when push comes to shove,
we know that the American public, the people that they
need to at least appear to vote for them, aren't
nearly as enamored with a lot of these issues as
the controlling entities of the Democratic Party are.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Well.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I think what I hear you seeing is that she
used that convention to talk about her biography and how
joyous it was to not have Joe Biden messing with
her ambitions anymore. It was a very joyous convention, as
I recall, and to make everything happy, just like it's
like Chip and Cindy on the six o'clock news doing
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happy talk, and that's Cindy with an eye.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
I've never understood this.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I tuned in hoping to find out something about where
this woman stands, although I think we know where she stands.
But I'll tell you who I have been finding out
about is the Minnesota Marxist Tim Walls, who some people
are calling the Great Walls of China.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
What do you make of this guy?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And why do you think she chose him?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I think she probably finds a lot of commonalty with him,
and so you know, there's certainly I think he was
a level of comfort for her, not only ideologically, but
also he's kind of a goober and she's I wouldn't
say a goober.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
But I don't think she I think she's shrewd.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I don't think she's just highly intelligent, but I think
she is shrewd, and I think she for that reason,
cannot be underestimated. But it's almost more like who could
she not choose? She couldn't choose Josh Shapiro. He's too smart,
you know. I disagree with his policies, you know, up
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and down the up and down the board, but he
is a formidable politician, and so she couldn't have him.
Mark Kelly's got his own problems.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well he's got some some connection with a spy balloon.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
But Josh Shapiro is Jewish, yes.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, so yeah, the Party of Tolerance, they couldn't tolerated
jew on their ticket.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
And Kamalo's married to a Jew.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
When he needs to be. It seems like in that cove.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
That's probably true too.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
But you know, just one other quick thing too about
you know what happened at the convention, but what didn't
happen during this time at the convention here last week
or so, we were on pins and needles thinking that
Hamas was getting ready to attack Israel. Wow, that didn't happen.
I wonder if that was put on hold to get
us through this convention. We also it appears that there
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were some backdoor negotiations between that whatever, that Brandon, that's
the Chicago MA Aaron Pritzker were doing with the with
all the Antifa and all the protesters outside to make
sure to promise make them some promises so that they
wouldn't come and burn down the city, because that wouldn't
have been a good look for Kamala.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Well, and you talk about what didn't happen, we also
didn't have too bad a situation, at least not on
television with the pro Palestinian pro Hamas protesters out there.
The Chicago police put up three four walls. The Democrats
learned to love walls, not w alz, but w als
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because they wanted to keep any potential problems out of
their convention. And from what I understand, you had to
have two or three levels of photo ID to get
in right.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
But no, there was also reports from independent media they're
locally in Chicago that the mayor of Chicago and Pritzker
were negotiating with several of the main groups that were
going to be bringing protesters in to not show up
in the force that they planned to show up and
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not foment the violence that was inevitably going to happen
in order to make for a more peaceful convention. That
wouldn't that wouldn't undermine you know, if they had had
another Chicago sixty eight, that probably could have torpedoed her
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candidacy right then and there. And so Pritzker and the
Chicago mayor negotiated with the protesters to not be as
as they would have been otherwise.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Well, you know, I'm pretty politically connected, as are you.
But and I've been in Minnesota recently, spent quite a
bit of time there, and yet before all this came down,
if you had asked me who the governor of Minnesota was,
I would not have been able to tell you. Basically,
there's four or five governors around the country that are
that are stars, like Abbot and and uh and Kathy
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Hokeel and all that, and and Florida and California. We
know those governors, but I didn't know this guy. And
the more I find out about him, the more I'm
repelled by him. I mean, you said he's something of
a goober. He has really interesting mannerisms when he walks
out on a stage, and the way he greeted his
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wife was not a natural way. I mean, it was
just it was odd and awkward. And then you find out, boy,
this guy is lied about just about everything that he's
ever said. And then you learned about his Communist ties,
and it just goes on and on with this guy.
So I'm going to ask you this question. You know,
six months ago, everybody would say we want Joe, we
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don't like Joe Biden, or maybe if it's a Democrat.
I love Joe Biden, but I sure don't want anything
to happen to him. Why not because Kamala Harris would
become president. Now they've rebuilt her image, and now a
lot of people are thinking, boy, we sure wouldn't want
anything to happen to her if she were president. Because
that guy, Tim Walls would become president. Do you think
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he's ready to step in?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Oh, absolutely not, but he does seem to have a
propensity for being able to, you know, fail upward. But
I would wonder that he wouldn't be pretty manageable in
DC and because it does.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I mean a term that is used. You know, he
was the.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
One that first kind of coined the whole weird thing.
But it does seem that people from his past, some
of his past students and everything, have very comfortably referred
to him as just being kind of goofy and he
is an idiologue, but it doesn't seem like that. He's
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very practical, and so I just I don't think he
I really think he may end up from our standpoint,
our point of view, being a good pick, because I
think he is going to collapse under his own weight.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
And this whole thing.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
You know, there's a there's a new term that's been
bannered around because you know, he does have a camo
hat and a gun, so you know he must be
pretty much of a you know, just a real guy.
But anyway, it's he is what is known in slang
as a hicclib and that is something where you have
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liberals who may live in rural, more rural areas that
they're liberalists can be, but they still have the accouterments
of being maybe a little more country. They might like
a plaid shirt, drive a truck like to hunt those
type things.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And anyway, Tim.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Tim Waltz is also so what we would call a
HICICLB now, which to me is just one more thing.
He's a phony. You know, he wants to be g
I Joe, which we've seen he's not. He wanted to
be this ace football coach, which come to find out
he was a defensive coordinator or whatever. Nothing wrong with that.
But you know, no, guy, you weren't at the top
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of the ticket for the football team here. Oh he
was this dedicated teacher. Well actually he was just you know,
a facilitator of Marxist propaganda to young minds. Even I
saw something today. His latest embellishment that's come out is
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that he was claiming to have been given some big
award by the Nebraska State Chamber of Commerce. And they're
coming back and they're saying no, no, no, no, no,
that wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
And it was some other.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Lesser known chamber of commerce, smaller organization in Nebraska that
gave this award. So the guy is just I mean,
his credibility I think is just tanking. And you know,
for his sake, it's probably a good thing that we
have such a short life on this campaign.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
Well, I want to.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Talk about the upcoming debates. Let me play you a clip.
I don't know if you have seen this, as Jonathan Carl,
who is a journalist at ABC. Unlike Jake Tapper, he
was not a Democrat operative that I can find, or Stephanopholis,
of course, but he's far left. And he was hosting
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ABC's This Week yesterday as we're speaking on a Monday,
and Tom Cotton was on, and this got very interesting
with Cotton, who is pretty far to the right, and
was talking about Kamala Harris's positions, and then Jonathan Carl
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felt like he had to come to her defense and
he acted as a surrey get So listen to this
and then we'll discuss it.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
This runs about two minutes.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
President Trump is going to draw a sharp contrast with
Kamala Harris, who has supported things like decriminalizing illegal immigration,
or giving taxpayer funded health insurance to illegal aliens, or
taking away health insurance on the job for one hundred
and seventy million Americans, banning gas cars, confiscating firearms.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
What do you mean taking away health insurance? What are
you talking about?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
She said when she ran for president that she wants
to eliminate private health insurance on the job, well seventy
million Americans, John.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
Yeah, I mean I mean that that is not her position.
Now she knows how do you know this?
Speaker 5 (22:35):
How do you know this not her position?
Speaker 6 (22:36):
I mean she she says, you know, she has not
said her.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
She has not said that. Maybe anonymous aids on a
Friday night have said that. But but the last thing
that she said, this was.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Not a radical convention. I mean, she she she as
that you heard me go through with Bernie Sanders. She
is not taking the positions of the far left of
her party. She's clearly making an effort to move to
the medal.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
I did hear what you said to Senator Sanders, and
I thought it was clear that he's very disappointed that
she's taking these efforts not to change her positions, but
to hide her positions. John, The American people are totally
justified to conclude that Kamala Harris is a dangerous San
Francisco liberal based on what she campaigned on the last
time she ran for president and what this administration has
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done the last four years. Again, you would have thought
watching the Democratic Convention last week that the Democrats are
not in office, but they're not in power, that they're
campaigning against an incumbent Republican when in reality, she's been
part of the failures of the Biden Harris administration for
four years, and when she campaigned for president in her
own right, she did, in fact promise sayings like decriminalizing
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illegal immigration and taking away if that's.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
His position, she's clearly changed on and she said she
has changed. Yes, yes, yes she has.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
She has not said that she's not. You pointed out
Senator Sanders repeatedly things that her campaign has said. Anonymous aid,
speaking on background reporters has said, well, she no longer
believes these things. Okay, maybe she has changed her position
on things like taking away your health insurance and confiscating
your gun. If she has changed her position, she owes
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it to the American people to come out and say
to her own words when she changed and why she changed.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Lewenn I found that clip to be extraordinary. I don't
believe I've ever heard a Sunday Morning anchor on any
of the four broadcast television networks act as an outright
surrogate in the way that Jonathan Carl did there, And.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
It was interesting in that because of the way she
has comported herself with being so unavailable.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
That he was.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Really having to struggle to even defend her, because why
has she not been out talking to he and his
colleagues about these things?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
You know?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
But yet at the same time he's struggling to to.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Defend her.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I mean, how can he defend what she says, what
she thinks, what she believes, what she's.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Changed or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
No one knows anything what she's done because she won't
be forthcoming and it's not make herself accessible. And her
little Dog and Pony show the other night was I
don't know, forty five minutes of just kind of nonsense.
There wasn't anything there. And so every time she does
also either ignore the press or get up and fail
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to say anything. What other conclusion are you going to
draw except that she she you know, who knows what
her positions are, but they very likely aren't going to
be anything that would necessarily be appealing to the American
public or else should be out sharing that.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Well, that was on the ABC broadcast network. I might
ask you where the one scheduled debate between Trump and
Harris is supposed to land, And that's on AB and
right now Trump is reassessing whether he wants to go
on that network.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Well, it wasn't ABC the network that that gal that
was so ugly to him at the Black Journalist event
several weeks ago there in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Wasn't she an ABC reporter?
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:18):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You know, ABC's got two at least, well, actually I
think of Stephanopholis and Tappers over on CNN, but he
used to be at ABC. Stephanopholis is just an outright
political operative and was part of the Clinton war room,
and I think ABC needs to take a look at
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its news department. But nevertheless, what do you see happening?
Let's say this debate goes forward either on ABC or
maybe it'll switch to one of the other networks.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
How do you.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
See based on Trump's restraint during that debate with Biden,
which I think was a setup for Democrats to see
if he could do it and do it early so
they could get rid of him, which is exactly what happened.
Will Trump show restraint? Will he be on the attack?
How will Kamala Harris do because she's not well steeped
in the issue, without notes or without a teleprompter, how
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do you think she can do against Trump.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Well, I'm happy that I had heard last week that
he has Tulci Gabbert in consulting with him for his
debate prep, which I think is excellent on for several reasons.
Number One, Tulsi so well took on Kamala back those
years ago and you know, probably single handedly destroyed her
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run for the president with it about you know, three minutes.
And also though that I think Tulsi is her demeanor,
being that that calm but firm and tough demeanor. I
think that it's a good influence for him to have
in the context of a debate.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
And so I think.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
I think that Trump, with everything that's happened, I think
he is He's always had the ability to turn on
and off the restraint and pull out the right tone
at the right time. He's always had the ability to
do it. He hasn't always chosen to do it. I
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think he's learned from that, and I think this time
around he is. In fact, last week, he was down
there on the border one afternoon and I came in
and was listening to some of that, and I thought
it was just really interesting because he seemed almost subdued
and the remarks that I heard him making, it was
just I just thought it was interesting because it was
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a very very subdued tone.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
That's really the only way I know to describe it.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well, then after he finished his remarks, he said, and
we have a few people here that I'd also like
you to hear from them, and you know, this was
largely an event for the press, and anyway, he then
had a number of the families that have had loved
ones who have been killed by illegals, and so then
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it was like, ah, that's what. This isn't a rally,
this isn't a raw, raw, raw thing. This is a
serious policy event and sharing of information, sharing of life
experience of why this policy, why you know, his prescription
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with regard to immigration is so important, and the kinds
of people that have been harmed by the Biden regimes
approach to immigration, and so that made sense why he
you know, had that restrained in that more somber tone.
And so I think he's I think he's learned.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
From the past on that.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I think that is one criticism that he has truly
taken to har So I do not have any real
concerns about the debate for him I just you know,
it's just frustrating because Kamala isn't going to want to
come out. She's going to want to go and hide.
And who knows how they're gonna how they're going to
explain when there will be no more debates, because I
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think if this happens.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
It will be the only one.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Oh, I think so too.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I'm not sure she will do as well as Biden did,
and yet I don't want to underestimate her. She seems
to me leu Anne to have zero interest in governing.
She doesn't seem to have any desire to do the
work that it takes because it's not easy to be president.
And when she became borders are and broadbands are she
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didn't do either job. She didn't just ignored it like
it wasn't there. She seems to enjoy the campaigning, but
I don't think she understands the issues. It's we will
not go back and we are full of joy, and
that's what they gave us at this convention with no
substance at all. Now I want to turn to the
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vice presidential debate and ask how you think that might go.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
You've got tim Walls and you've got JD. Vance.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
That one is going to be priceless. JD is so
quick on his feet, and he is so solid, and
I mean, I think that one, that one will be
just priceless.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I can't imagine.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
The one liners and clips that will come out of that.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
And I think that again JD.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Will just show what a buffoon that Walls is.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Well.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
I think so too. I was a little disappointed in Walls.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I had thought maybe, even though he was leftist, he
would have a little bit of a character. But then
he brought up that room about JD. Vance and the
couch thing, and then he said, see what I did there,
And I thought, yeah, I see exactly what you did there,
you moron.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
That's what I thought about it.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
I certainly, I certainly think that my thought before that
Kamala Harris was as low as you could go in
the barrel of the Democrat Party as far as being
the president of the United States. I think they found
a guy in Tim Wallas who is even worse than
she is and might make a worse president than she's.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Going to make.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
For one thing, I don't think anybody if she gets elected.
I don't think anybody in the Democrat Party is going
to take her seriously. I think it'll be the fourth
or fifth term wherever we are now of the Barack
Obama administration. I think Obama's been controlling everything for the
last four years, and I think he will continue to
control it. If it's her, She will want to go
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to the dinners. She will want to go to I
don't know, maybe some of the overseas things that are funs.
She doesn't want to do any work, and I don't
see Walls as being capable of doing any.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
No, She's she's more of a party girl, I think,
and I mean I think she. I think she will
do what what she's told. And you know, she also
knows what you know, what side of the what is it?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
What side of the bread her? You know, the butter
is on.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
There was a video going around right now that you know,
talks about how she was known. There was a minister
out in California and he would refer to her as
miss lock up a Brother because she was so notorious
for locking up black men for low level drug possession charges.
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And I think we're going to see a whole lot
more come out of her, come out about her and
her tenure in California than we've had, and I think
that's going to probably push her back more and more
underground into your point. It's going to make it where
she wants to show up for the photo ops.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
But not do the work.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
And you know, I think that this election is really
it's democracy, and it's freedom that's on the ballot more
than anything. And we're talking about freedom and liberty versus tyranny, tyranny, socialism, communism, Marxism.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Whatever it is that you want to call it.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
And when you say that you don't think that she's
really about governing, I would agree with that, and if anything,
I would say, no, she's not about the governing, but
she is about the ruling. And that word just kept
kind of that phrase kept kind of staying with me
when I would hear older clips of her about you know,
she just likes ruling. And there was something at the
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convention the other night that she was talking about, you know,
we just need people to follow the rules, and if
they're not willing to follow the rules, there are going
to be penalties. And I thought that is such an
elemental way to put it, which would be in keeping
with where I think she is both from a maturity
standpoint and an intellectual standpoint that it would be something
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that elemental like the rules. But it also begs the question, well,
just who in the hell's making those rules? Because that
makes me real nervous, and that she oh, well, we
have to do this because it's the rules. And I
think that speaks to your Yeah, she's not a serious
person when it comes to governing doing the work that
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real governance would responsibly require. But oh no, she's in
for enforcing the rules.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Well I think so. I think that's absolutely the case.
I want to talk to you about the Power Rangers now.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, I know who they are.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
That would be RFK Junior, Elon Musk and Tolsy Gabbard.
So what did you make of all this over the weekend.
I mean, you've got Musk now coming out and supporting Trump.
You've got Tolsy g and the latest to create the
trio as RFK Junior. Let me play you just a
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quick piece of him.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Here's part of his announcement.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
Our party was the bulwark against big money interests.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
And corporate power.
Speaker 7 (36:17):
True to its name, it was the Party of Democracy.
As you know, I left that party in October because
it had departed so dramatically from the core values that
I grew up with. It had become the party of war, censorship, corruption,
big pharma, big tech, big egg, and big money. Wanted
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abandoned democracy by canceling the primary to ceo the cognitive
decline of the sitting president, I left the party to
run as an independent.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Well, and that's kind of what all happened. I mean,
I see his point. We are charting new territory here.
The Democrat nominee has never received a single vote for
the presidency in any form or fashion. She was on
the ticket as there's the number two with Biden, so
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people were not voting specifically for her, they were voting
for Joe Biden. And she never got a primary vote
last time, and she never had to this time. And
they're saving democracy.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
And not only was she shoehorned into the position she's
in now by the coup that they perpetrated on Biden,
but also you have any opponents, which at this point
are Trump and RFK have been targeted with the law,
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fair with processes and things, not having any debates for
RFK rigging a primary again, you have you know, you
have all of that happening also and then I mean,
and actually in the primary standpoint, even I can't remember
what the guy's name was, which speaks to how much
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they marginalized him, the other guy that was trying to
run against Biden in the primary. And so, I mean,
the left has weaponized all aspects of the system in
order to achieve their means of staying, you know, continuing
on with power. And I'll tell you when I really
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got the sense that something was going to happen with
RFK is because yeah, he Tulcy and Elon, I mean,
they're they're definitely major players in this whole power Ranger dynamic.
But week two weeks ago, Robert Malone, doctor Malone, who
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was also good friends with RFK, he came out and
said that he would be voting for Trump. And when
he said that, it was like, Okay, RFK is getting
ready to make a move because they are seem to
be too good of friends that Malone would not be
publicly revealing his support for Trump in the election. Were
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RFK still going to be in the mix on that.
And so you know, there's a lot of people Malone.
Naomi Wolf I just saw an interview earlier this morning
with Dennis Gacinach. I mean, there are there is a
whole nother cadre of people that may not have quite
the clout that Elon and RFK have, but there's a
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number of other people that are in there that also
are people who the Left has canceled to some degree,
and they're also supportive of this, because again, this is
a matter of do you love your country more than
you hate Donald Trump? And the other great point that
kenn is making do you love your children?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Because that's one.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Of the things I have always thought that he was
a very interesting He's an interesting guy. He's a deep
thinking guy. But it really hit me last night that
he is looking you know, we say, oh, we want
to save the country. No, he's talking about saving the
country from physical extinction because we are so unhealthy and
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because our children are so we are seeing within a
couple of generations, we are seeing such a degradation of
health within people, of reproductive capabilities within people, along with
the societal disinterest in reproduction. He's talking about saving America
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from making it self extinct, on top of having to
save us from becoming an authoritarian state. And so, I mean,
there's a whole lot going on here. But with that,
there's also a lot of different pieces of that for
people to catch on to, to latch onto, and hopefully
we will have a coalition that cares more about saving
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this country for whatever your special interests are, versus just
hating Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Well, you know, I've talked about that, and I've thought
about that, and I'm a guy that reads the labels
at the grocery store, and I have thought for some
time for years, why do we put this crap in
our food? Certainly all the sodium content, some of the preservatives,
some of the dyes, the food dies, and certainly the
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sugar content.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
If he could help.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Alleviate some of that, it would be worth having him
in some position to do it because it would make
for a healthier country. And I don't know of anybody
else other than him that is bringing that up, But
it's been a concern of mine for decades.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
We've seen you know, COVID. In the same way that
it was a wonderful opportunity, ironically to expose what was
happening in education, it also exposed what's happening in terms
of public health, the pharmaceutical industry, and it showed the
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duplicity and the danger and the willingness of that industry
to put the American public totally at risk, to cause
harm to Americans in order to achieve their profitability goals
and or their control goals. Because there's also a big
globalist component to that. And so you know, I think
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that that's part of why RFK is seen as such
a threat is because he does truly understand that, and
it's insane how the children are being so harmed from that.
But also just this dependence on drugs. I mean, I
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will tell you, and I mean you know this. Back
twenty twenty, I got real sick and it had nothing
to do with COVID, and come to find out, I
had a reaction to a blood pressure medication that my
doctor had upped the prescription on, and within ninety days
my body started shutting down. And I now have an
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autoimmune condition thanks to a blood pressure medication and the
medication that I am on to take in order that
makes me functional. The retail price on it, it's about
sixty five hundred dollars a month. And so you know,
there's a pharmaceutical company. A pharmaceutical company made me sick,
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and a pharmaceutical company now makes a bunch of money
keeping me functional. And I am not the only person
by any means in in our nation that has that situation.
And I'm horrified at thought of having to be on
this drug for the rest of my life. And I'm
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resentful that I'm in that position of doing that.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
But what am I gonna do about it? Well, you
know something, I'm gonna I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Be very supportive of RFK to try and help alleviate that,
because that's happening too much.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Well, I mentioned to Jim Cardle this morning on the
show that I like chips as much as the next person,
and it's hard for me to go up the chip
aisle without loading up with Doritos and potato chips and
free doos, but I have I try to avoid that
to the extent that I can. But I tried FreeDOS
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and potato chips that are called lightly salted lightly salted.
It's about ninety grams as opposed to the normal two
hundred or something, and to be honest, I can't tell
any differentference in the taste. So what I'm getting at
here is why do we have to put all this
much of this stuff in when it's just absolutely not
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necessary to do it. And I'm not sure the answer
to that, to get you addicted to it more, to
extend the shelf life more, That's what I suspect it
is probably those two things. But you certainly don't have
to put all the sodium. Try try a can of
beans at Walmart or HGB that doesn't have any sodium
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in it, and see if it tastes much different to
you It doesn't to me.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Well, it's just.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
A matter and you know, and it also is just
a matter of training your taste, you know, because that's
certainly the case with sugar.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
So much of this stuff is so loaded up with sugar.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
And your body gets gets acclimated to having all of
that sugar, and so when you don't have, you know,
when you have something that may not have as much, oh,
this doesn't taste as good. Well, it's all matter of
what you acclimate your body too. And you know, with discipline,
you can you can ratchet down your body's desire for
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a lot of a lot of those types of things.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
And it is my hope, and I think I'm hearing
it from you as well, that our FK will be
a player in at least this particular issue, because it
is desperately needed. Right, we're about out of time. Let
me just ask you where you think this campaign is
today and where you think it could end up, and
we'll end on that note.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
One of the things that concerns me is we you know,
and I mean, and I myself am guilty of throwing
around the number that we're seventy five days or whatever
it is out from from election day. But in all actuality,
this election probably will be determined in the next four
to six weeks because we have early votings starting and
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that's why we have no time to waste, because I mean,
in some of these states they start voting at the
end of September, and so I think that it's critical.
Every day is critical. I'm happy to see the pace
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at which Trump and JD are And in fact, I
got an email this morning. You know, Tucker Carlson is
doing a big tour across the US and JD's going
to join him for a couple of days. So I
found that interesting. RFK the timing, certainly it was strategic
with doing it on the tail end of the Democratic Convention,
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but I am glad that it's happening now here as
it is. He is a great campaigner, so hopefully there's
going to be a whole slew of events that he
will be out there, you know, making the rounds as well,
both appearing with Trump and JA and without. I think
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there's a lot of energy on our side. I liked
the counter programming that the Trump team did last week
during the convention. I think we've got a lot of
good energy on our side. I think it's ours to lose,
but I will go back to it's all about overcoming
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the cheat and that is the biggest thing. And so
hopefully RFK can help attract some of these low propensity
voters and this whole you know, the idea of the
Unity Party, hopefully that will bring some people, some voters
that aren't necessarily there to the table. I mean, I'm
signed up to work and make calls for Trump fors
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forty seven and have every intention of doing that.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
So I think.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
There's a lot on our side to be hopeful about,
but nothing is guaranteed, and it's going to take a
hell of a lot of hard work. And I also,
I will just end with this, I'm not convinced. I
told friends months ago that I thought at a point
in time we would see a president Kamala Harris. I
still think that, and it wouldn't shock me for Biden
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to a the point step down and perhaps in October
that be a big October surprise that she becomes president.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
This whole idea of Kamala Harris becoming President of the
United States by hook er, by crook is something that's
worried me as well, and I really hope we can
avoid that, but you.
Speaker 4 (49:32):
Know, Biden might might try to pull that kind of
a stunt. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
On the other hand, I'm not totally convinced that he
wants her to win, because there's still that animosity over
the Palace coup.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
Lew Anne.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
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Speaker 4 (50:05):
Lew Wenn, thank
Speaker 1 (50:06):
You so much, and until next time, we'll say goodbye
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