August 5, 2024 • 42 mins
Lynn Woolley and Lou Ann Anderson look at the state of the election, given the state of the world. As we were recording the podcast on August 5, 2024, Israel was bracing for retaliation from Iran, and the stock market in America was down 1,000 points. If Joe Biden is largely responsible for the wars abroad and the terrible economy, then is Kamala Harris also culpable? If so, can she be elected, and is Donald Trump capable of blowing an election that is his to lose? Harris is giving no interviews, and Trump may be talking too much. Here’s our analysis…
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Planet Logic and Political Pursuits. The podcast a
joint effort today. I'm Lynn Woolley and lew And Anderson
is joining me the show today. The World the way
it is LEU And as we speak right now, the
Dow futures were eight hundred points off this morning, which
is Monday. The state of Israel was bracing for attacks
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from Iran over what has been going on in the
Middle East. And we have the prospect of Kamala Harris
becoming president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Indeed, so I would say, you know, she has her
little tagline the future is Now, and it would seem
that this morning that is exactly the case. Get Ready.
What we're seeing today, I'm afraid is just the beginning
and there could be plenty more of all of all
that you mentioned going forward with her at the helm.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, things happen. But boy, this this whole presidential election
has been one that reminds me of a Hollywood script.
Nobody would believe it. You know, one guy gets shot at,
the other guy drops out. Now we've got Kamala Harris
in the catbird seat for the Democrats, it seems like
to me. And tell me if you think I'm wrong,
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But if Trump can just play his cards right, I'm
gonna say this, keep his mouth shut a little bit
more than he does. Sometimes these world events are going
to make it all most impossible for her to win.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I tend to agree, and I tell you we've got
some agreement from an odds source, and that would be
one David Axelrod. He has been out and interviews. He's
talked about how that he thinks that this race is
Trump's race to lose. He told that to CNN here
in the last few days, and he said that the
positive election vibes right now that the Democratic Party is
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experiencing that it's he brought up a phrase from old
year's irrational exuberance. I do think he's right, and I
think that these events as they're going on here hopefully
will be shocking people back into a reality of like
I said, you know what the future could bring with
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somebody like her.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, you know, I think that this is a self
inflicted wound by the Biden administration. And of course, part
of it goes back to the pandemic. And when Trump
was president, he was told by all of his advisers,
oh my gosh, we've got a pandemic. We've got to
spend like drunken politicians, and so they did. And then
Biden came into office, and as the pandemic began to subside,
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he kept on spending, so he didn't get built back better,
but he got the bipartisan infrastructure thing through, and he
got the so called Inflation Reduction Act through and that's
what sent inflation through the roof, and then inflation going
up as high as it's gone to me has led
to this situation where the Fed apparently mismanage this. They
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weren't able to control it in any way, and now
foreign markets are reacting to this jobs report we had
last week. All the economic indicators are horrible. How does
how does Kamala? How does Kamala avoid not getting smeared
with being part of the administration that brought us to
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this point.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I don't think she does. I think that the only
thing she is going to try and avoid is answering
for that, and that will be in the form of
not doing, you know, substantive interviews, not doing news conferences,
and trying to avoid or at least find a way
to control the playing field of any debate.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Well, yes, and in the time since she's been the
presumptive nominee, and that's about to be codified here. She
hasn't done a single media interview in Leuanne. The only
time that she has been off teleprompter since that happened
was out at Andrews Air Force Base after that prisoner exchange,
and she meandered around, repeating words, going back to earlier phrases,
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repeating them again. Stuff about the Biden administration. At least
we have a president that knows the importance of what
the importance is, of how important it is. I mean,
she cannot go off Mike how or of off script.
How is she going to debate him? And do you
think that if they have a debate, will Trump be
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able to restrain himself kind of the way he did
with the Biden debate when Biden was digging his hole.
Trump let him dig it. I think all he's got
to do is have short, to the point answers, which
isn't easy for Trump, and let her dig the hole.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
But he did. He did a good job that night.
He kept coming around the policy, he said, made away
from the personality. He did it with Biden. Yes, absolutely,
he did it with Biden. And the other thing you
have to remember, Trump likes success. Trump likes a win.
He got the win that night by invoking the exact
strategy you're talking about it. So with the idea that yes,
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that was a winning strategy, you better believe it, he
can do it again and he will do it again.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well, I want to take you back to the day's
headlines here for just a minute. Biden, as we speak,
is about to be meeting with his national security team. Israel,
which has been not totally cut off but mostly just
getting defensive weaponry from the United States because the Democrats
have an anti Semitism problem in their base. But if
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this erupts into a major conflict, and I expect that
the chances of that are higher than fifty percent. Israel
has taken out two or three major terrorism terrorism leaders
from Hamas and has Bola. Iran's not happy about it.
They're going to strike back. Nedan Yahoo is one of
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those prime ministers who will slap them again if they
do that. If all this happens, how in the world, Yeah,
how in the world is Harris going to control this?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
She isn't. She isn't. I mean of anyone who has
no foreign policy experience of anybody that they could have picked.
There probably is no one that would have less foreign
policy experience than her.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But all that stuff down at the border that she's
done exactly which is none No, can you but seriously,
lou can you imagine her sitting in a room with
Vladimir Putin or she jin ping? Can you imagine that?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Not in the least, Not in the least. And it's
not oh, just because she's a woman, you know, and
as a woman, I will very comfortably say that it's
not just because she's a woman. It's because she is
the woman that she is. There are women who could
walk into that room, and yes, they would be up
against certain biases, you know, with being female going into
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that environment, but I have confidence that they could overcome it.
Hillary Clinton, much as I despise, the woman, at least
had a degree of formidability if she, you know, in
walking into a room into a setting light that Kamala
doesn't have. That. Remember back in the years when who
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was it was it Cheney that all of a sudden
they kept talking about that he had gravitas, and I mean,
you know, within the one day news cycle, they just
ruined that word largely forever. But it is a good term.
And Kamala has zero on the Gravitas scale.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well, that is correct. Do you take her off the
teleprompter and it's a total disaster. My problem right now
with this race is that I think after the assassination
attempt and after probably the most unified Republican convention that
we had in Milwaukee, and Trump had half of a
pretty good speech, and then I thought went off on
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the last half, maybe in a little not quite as
good a direction, but he still came out of that.
It's his election to lose at that point, and then
of course Pelosi and some of the others pushed Biden
out and now we reset the election with Harris. I
still think it's Trump's election to lose. And I want
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to ask you bluntly, do you think Trump can manage
to lose?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Oh, Republicans can always manage to lose. Unfortunately, true, they
always can. We know that there is historical president throughout
the years, the decades. On that one. That said, I
do think that you know, as Axelrod calls it, the
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irrational exuberance, I do think there is a lot of that,
all of this fundraising that she's supposedly getting that is
is not real. And you know, James O'Keefe has done
a great job doing some exposing of you know how
Act Blue has taking all this foreign money and basically
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laundering it into faux small, small dollar donations in order
to make her look like she has some big ground
swell of financial support from the population. Same thing happening
on social media with TikTok. They've got all these influencers
that are out there. I mean, you want to talk
about Left has always loved to say that, you know,
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Republicans are AstroTurf. Oh my gosh, this is AstroTurf on steroids.
And I do think that people are going to start
seeing through it. Plus not to mention that their own
lived experience. And when we have all this turmoil going
on today, who knows what's going to be happening here
with the stock market, the headlines are full. I mean
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I'm here now living in the Dallas Fort Worth area,
and everyday local news has stories about, you know, some
company that isn't going to make national headlines, but it's
some local company that's laying off, you know, several hundred people.
And so people's lived experience is going to weigh in,
hopefully more heavily than any of this other AstroTurf that
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the Democratic Party is peddling.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Well, I think you're right about that. I think there's
two Democrat parties right now, Lewyn. I think there's the
one that we see on CNN and MSNBC where Harris
walks on water that she has all these accomplishments, that
she's ready to be the president of the United States.
And then there's there's stories like this one about all
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the Democrats behind the scenes are in a panic mode.
I don't know how long the media can cover for
Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And I would wonder, especially after what they have gone
through with Biden, that how bad can these people look?
These people, meaning the media, they covered for Biden. Everybody
knows they covered for Biden. Have they no shame? Well,
we know the answer to that. But I mean it's
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like at some point you would think there would be
some shred of self respect that they want to try
and regain and not pick another loser to try and
prop up who ultimately is going to be revealed as
you know, the flawed candidate or the flawed individual that
they are. One thing that I would say, is that,
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you know, for people like you and I who follow
this all of the time, a lot of times, the
prevailing wisdom is that, oh, well, the VP candidate really
isn't going to make a big difference this time. I
think the VP candidate is going to be huge. Well,
I would think that it could be in the process
of being of changing even as things are unfolding today.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well, it probably could be. This situation with the war
or the possibility of an all out war in the
Middle East certainly shines a big light on the ethnicity
of Governor Shapiro and Ingo and the college campus protest.
We had that here in Austin. I'm sitting in Austin.
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You're up in the Dallas area. We're two big city
kids right now, but you're up in the Dallas area.
I don't imagine Southern Methodist University had a lot of this,
but I could imagine their minds, believe.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The University of Texas at Dallas did.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And I would imagine the University of Arth Texas did.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yes, No, they're there, they're around.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Well, we had we had it to the extreme level
here that we were one of those campuses being covered
on the network news all the time. These these people
who were agitating at those college campuses are part of
the base of Kamala Harris's electorate. She needs them and ergo.
She did not go to the meeting or to the
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speech of Benjamin nettan Yahoo when he was in DC,
although she did meet with him. What did you read
into that?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Oh? Oh, absolutely, that was total political posturing. And I
mean and that's why I would say that in the
last twenty four hours, Josh Shapiro's hopes of being the
VP have plummeted. In fact, I would be shocked if
he were picked. I really wasn't thinking. I believed the
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anti Semitism was going to nix him. Three four days
years ago, I thought that was the case, just based
on the fact that Michigan is too important to them,
and also Minnesota is in play and they don't want
to rile up the Muslims in those two states. I
thought that would be strong enough working against him, that
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he was not as likely a candidate as was being talented.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well, and of course by the time we put this
podcast up, well the people listening to it may know
who it is. It'll be interesting to see what our
prognostications are. But I was more worried about Mark Kelly
than anybody else because he's not quite as left wing
on some issues like the border, for example. But I
don't know if they can afford to lose a senator
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out in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Well, and he's got a China problem.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And he's got a spy balloon problem, right.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Right, Yeah, So I mean I and I agree with
you on the loss of the Senate seat out there,
and so I don't know how strong he is. I
think Tim Waltz is the guy.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, I'm tending to agree with you. I think Shapiro
was the guy until yesterday, Yeah, yesterday as we speak,
being Sunday.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And Waltz is the anti jd Vance.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well, jd Vance is another question. I'm sure. I don't
know if you've read Hillbilly Elegy. I have read the
book cover to cover. I got it for Christmas at
some point, an autograph copy, so I knew his backstory
and all that. Jd Vance is thirty nine years old.
I believe think he just.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Turned forty yesterday or day before.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
All right, so he's entered the decade of the forties.
He's got some things he said in his background that
the Democrats are pouncing on something about women that have
children should have more power than women without children, and YadA, YadA, YadA,
and Trump's sleft that off as simply, well, he's pro family.
That's nice. He did speak at the border this past
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weekend and was able to string not one, not two,
not three, but several sentences together extemporaneously, extemporaneously without a teleprompter.
And was I thought the way that he attacked Kamala Harris,
but he didn't attack her personally. He attacked her border
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policy the results from what she did, and I was
thinking that I wish Trump would learn from that and
do the same thing. But he tends to she's dumber,
She's a low IQ person. She's a female, dumber version
of Bernie Sanders, and so on and so forth. Brian
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kemp Out in Georgia is the worst governor in the
country and all this kind of stuff. Does that add
or subtract?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I think it depends on. I think for some people
they like it, others accept it, And you know, unfortunately,
there's the persuadables out there that are really who we
need to be concentrating on right now. I'm with the persuadables.
That's probably why they're in the persuadable category that kind
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of like to go with him, but they still have that,
you know, a little bit of that hesitation and that
type rhetoric is what fuels that. So I do hope
that maybe, you know, as he and JD are out
together and he's hearing more of what JD speaks, you know,
maybe he'll maybe he'll see some of that. And also
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I think that his people are they're going to have
to be having some strong talks with him, and it's
not like the man is by any means stupid, and
I mean talk about somebody who knows how to read
a room. I'm hopeful that he will just see that
in the same way like you were talking earlier, that
Biden just when he was on the stage front and center,
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he dug that hole and Trump stood by and let
him do it. I hope that he will see that
that's the tactic that he needs to take throughout the campaign.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well, let me ask you this. I'll start with JD. Vance.
If something could happen to Trump, we saw it almost happen,
a quick turn of the head at the exact right
moment inadvertently kept the bullet from going right through his brain.
Is jd Vance ready in your opinion? On day one
to be president?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
It would be a learning curve, as it would be
with anybody. But I think I would put my money
on him more than I would a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Well, I'd rather have him than Kamala Harris, But as
far as the Democrats, I heard.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That I'd rather have him than Mike Pence.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Oh, I'd rather have him than Mike Pence, but I'd
certainly rather have him than Kamala Harris. I'm thinking that
there is an element, and you can expound on this
in any way you want. There is an element on
her choice that she's got to be very careful because
almost every member of the Democrat Party is smarter than
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she is politically. Now, she's a good political climber. She
knows she knows how to have relationships with Willie Brown,
and she knows how to how to leverage her Indian
or her Jamaican or whatever heritage at whatever time to
help her climb the political ladder. But when it comes
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to politics, she's dumb as a rock. So is she
going to try to find somebody that is at her
intellectual level. And I'm not doing this to disparage her.
I'm talking about what I see when this woman talks,
when she speaks, when she when she has some kind
of a policy on Monday, but it's a different policy
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on Tuesday. I think anybody she picks well out shiner,
and I think that's a problem for her.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yes, and of anybody in the mix that would be
the intellectual match for her, I would say it would
be mayor Pete. And while he certainly I guess it
was last week, not this past weekend, but weekend before
I saw him on with Shannon Breeman of Bless his Heart,
was he was auditioning just to the max for that
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BP slought. I haven't really gotten a sense that he
has been in the anything much more than just on
a list, And certainly his dismal performance in the last
few years has taken him even to a new depth
that I would not have quite expected.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So well, I know you're talking about he's Palestine, where
he refused to go, and probably talking about some of
the major problems we've had with airlines. No, he hasn't
done a great job.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, yeah, you know. And meanwhile, just the overall infrastructure.
You know, our transportation infrastructure is certainly, you know, worse
off than it was when he took control. And he
appears to have been very kind of Mia, but I
suspect he's been living a pretty large life on the
taxpayer dime. So you know, no, I think your point
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is well taken that anybody is going to a fair
degree shine over her, And frankly, I'm not sure that
the Democratic Party sees that as a bad thing, because
let's also remember an interesting thing about Waltz that I
think just as kind of a file of the way,
is that he's the current chair of the Democratic Governors Association.
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And let's face it, we've got a few governors out there, Knewsome,
Whipmer who would like abide at this apple in twenty
twenty eight. So I think that anybody's going to upstage her,
And again, I'm not sure that there isn't a faction
of the Democratic Party that's not just like, we go
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through the motions here, we put her out as the
sacrificial lamb, she goes through, she loses, We're done with
her and we can move on to somebody strong.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, done with her and done with Biden and probably
after four years, that's all we're going to have with
Donald Trump. But let me ask you this, And you
mentioned Buddhajet, and I'd thought about that. So you want
a female on the ticket, and you want a male
who has female traits and has that picture of him
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wearing that bib with those babies. I cannot imagine this
man negotiating on the world stage with anybody. I just
can't imagine it as a male. I know, and be
attacked for seeing this, but I think we need some
manly men. I think we need some men who act
like men, or we need some women who can act
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like Margaret Thatcher. And I don't see I don't see
any of that.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
No, no, And I mean, you know, one of the
things that one of the criticisms that the Biden regime
has gotten over all these years, rightfully so, I think,
is that we are perceived as weak on the world stage.
And you put that ticket out, and I mean you are.
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You know, you might as well have the week in
neon lights flashing above them, you know, like an applause
sign week week week. That's all that would would do.
And I mean that would be devastating for the country.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, as we as we approach yet another war. Remember
Trump didn't get us into any wars. Trump didn't get
us into any and as we approach another one instead
of just Gaza and the Palestine, Onians, Israel maybe in
a full blown war with Iran. Who what president was
it if you can remember off the top of your head,
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that had the Iranians on their knees. They didn't have
any money, they couldn't build any weapons, they couldn't move
forward with their nuclear program. And then what president took
over and came in and helped them, and he sent
them a lifeline, threw them a rope, let them get
back on their economic feet so they could make missiles
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and bombs and start working on their their plutonium enrichment.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Again, yes, unlike his predecessor, he didn't send it didn't
appear he sent palettes of cash. But he might as
well because he certainly got them back up funded. Again. No,
the contrast is stark. And you know that's one of
the things that is said through this, that this is
an anomaly of a race, and that you do have
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two candidates, or certainly that was the case with Biden
and Trump. Although Kamala. She's been there wearing that tag,
that vice president name tag for all these years. So yep,
the Harris Biden administration, I think, you know, she well
deserves to be lumped into that. They they are the
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ones that brought back, fueled our enemies and and devastated,
decimated our troops, our you know, military readiness, our financial
ability to fight wars. And I mean we need to
keep that front and center.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
And they call parents domestic terrorists.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Oh yeah, it's all the it's all the domestic. It's
all terrorism in our country is a function of domestic
domestic individuals, not anyone foreign. You know, not to mention
all of the terrorists that have been, you know, caught
coming across our borders. So Lord only knows who's come
across that we're not aware of.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well, this past weekend, Nancy Pelosi showed up as a
guest with Leslie stall on CBS Sunday morning and opined
that the next president to be carved in stone and
added to Mount Rushmore should be Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I think Nancy's been smoking Hunter's crack pipe.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I think so that just again it gets back to
this deification of Joe Biden, And I think the lie
is the biggest is the best lie is the biggest lie.
We learned that from the Nazis and the fact that
Steve Moore, who we talked to on Talk thirteen seventy
from time to time and is on Fox News, made
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a list of the five worst presidents in American history
and Woodrow Wilson was at the top, and he was
followed closely by Joe Biden. So if he's one of
the worst presidents in the world, then the Democrat or
in the nation's history, the Democrats turn that around and
say he is worthy of being on Mount Rushmore. Does
anybody buy this?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Oh? I don't think so. And you know, and in
all actuality, it's too soon to even assess how bad
a president Joe Biden has been. We haven't seen the
complete and total fallout of his horrible policies.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
No, but we're already forget it.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And let's not forget he's got he's got another what
one hundred and twenty one hundred and fifty days.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, he's still there till January two, damaged, but they've
already started the rehabilitation of his image in his legacy
or the rewriting of history, whichever way you want to
do it. And the same thing with Kamala Harris. This
woman avoided well, she was in the vice president's job
and still is at the moment, but she's not doing
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any of the work. She's one campaigning. She avoided any
hard job. When she was given that border job, she
did not want it, and she, by god was not
going to do anything with it.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
No, absolutely, absolutely, And well and what was she going
to do? I mean, who did she go down to
El Salvador or something, and you know, was on that
silly root causes which anybody with you know, taking thirty
seconds out can tell you what the root causes are
and what's attracting these people here.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, a lot of the world's a hell hole and
they want to come here and get free stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, you know. And the other side of
that too is oh, and she doesn't have a problem.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
With that, No, she doesn't. I want to ask you this.
We've got maybe ten minutes left. I want to ask
you this. The world is a mess. We titled the
show today the World the way it is. All right,
So we've got war in Ukraine, and remember how quaint
it was when we just had one war going on.
All right. So we've got war in Ukraine, We've got
war in Gaza. We're about to have war any between
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Iran and Israel. We've got a president that refuses to totally
support Israel because of his anti Semitic base. We've got
you see the CNN headline right now as I'm looking
at it. Online markets are melting down, Foreign markets are
melting down. Trump is going to come into office with
a hell of a mess on his hands, far more
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than he inherited from Obama. He's going to come into
office with all of Biden's mistakes, all of Kamala Harris's mistakes,
royling not just the country, but the world. How's he
going to fix that?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
It's going to be it's going to be a heavy lift.
And I mean he's going to He's coming in in
under circumstances that make what he came into with twenty
sixteen look like a cake walk. Because on the military front,
you need to also remember we've got Taiwan sitting over there,
and you know, there's it's remains to be seeing what
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Chishi Ping made try and do during a Biden administration.
We also have the Philippines. China's over messing around with
the Philippines, and there's some thought that she has such
a kind of tenuous control over his whole position right
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now in China that he could use a win, and
that going in and stirring something up, trying to take
over some land in the Philippines somewhere in that area,
that that might be the easiest, cheapest win so that
he could better shore up his position domestically. So anyway,
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you know, there's all of that going on as well.
Plus not to mention the fact that when we've got
our you know, debt that has risen to the astronomical
level that it is. That and all of the trip
wires that the Congress and different agencies have put in
over this time to try and hamstring Trump from being
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able to take certain actions unilaterally. It's not going to
be an easy task. It's not going to be an
easy task at all. And I think that his even
his degree of success will be hampered because of it.
But anything is an improvement. And again, you know, Kamala
wants to say the future is now, well, I'll take
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her at her word, and I'm looking at what's happening today,
and if that's the future, thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
But no, well, I think a lot of this is
brought on by the national debt, and we can't quit
this spending. There's a website called Just Facts Daily that
has looked at not only the national debt, but has
looked at what else the government has as responsibilities, things
that it has made promises to, and it has come
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up with that the federal fiscal burden now consumes ninety
three percent of America's wealth. The government really owes one
hundred and forty two trillion, not thirty five trillion. And
that's adding in all the stuff that the government's responsible for,
like federal employee pensions, unfunded obligations for Medicare, Medicaid, social Security,
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all of that, and nobody ever mentions this. And I
have yet to hear Trump mention the debt, but once
I think you mentioned it once, either in a rally
or at the debate. I can't remember. Joe Biden is
never going to mention debt. I haven't heard Kamala Harris
mentioned debt. But that's our existential crisis. To hell with climate.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Change, without a doubt, without a doubt, I mean it
can't go on, and any you know, any non ann
any non liberal economist will tell you.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
That, well, I don't know what you do. I don't
know what you do about it right now, because every
time we've had a situation where we might be able
to do something, and you know, some of those people
that the media hates and normal people hate, like Marjorie
Taylor Green and Chip Roy, bring this up from time
to time and say, we've got to do something before
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it consumes us. And it's very close to consuming us.
If the federal fiscal budget is taking ninety three percent
of America's wealth. I didn't graduate yesterday, but that still
says to me seven percent is what's left for us
to deal with, and that's not much. And so that
we keep borrowing and borrowing and borrowing, and we're going
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to have to dig out of this at some point.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Well, and I think that you know, in the past,
Trump thought that when you have an economy that's blowing
and going, you can to some degree grow your way
out of it. And at a point I think that
that probably you know, there was some truth to that,
although you know that didn't mean that we still don't
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need massive spending cuts and God only knows that there
are plenty of places that could start happening. And you know,
just from a kind of a superficial or cosmetic standpoint,
quitting sending money to Ukraine and you know, quitting giving
all this money to the illegal aliens coming over here
could be a nice start.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Well, I think we're going to have to get rid
of the Department of Education, probably Commerce Interior. We just
can't afford to have these things and sometimes they just
end up growing the swamp. And that's about it. But
we're gonna have to look at entitlements, and there's we need.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
To start looking at the every agency, especially like the
State Department and the Department of Defense and what they're
doing and funding a lot of these NGOs, these NGOs
that are doing the things like bringing in the illegals,
doing things like setting up all of these these civic
groups that are doing bad things with regard to our elections.
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There's there's a lot, a lot of these NGOs that are
getting crazy amounts of money, and that's something that I
think that would be a very good initiative to take on.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Well, it would sure be nice if instead of worrying
about mean tweets and name calling, that we could talk
about the national debt, we could talk about getting the
wokeness out of our military, getting the wokeness out of
our schools. In all of that, who do you see
as the heir apparance to Trump win or lose? He's
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got for easy. He's either done now after the election
if he loses, or he's got four years as president
and he's term limited for another president. Who do you
see four years from the upcoming January to be in
the catbird seat for twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I think it's too early to tell. I mean, JD.
This certainly could be a life changing experience for him
and for his trajectory. I mean, he's going to have
a ton of slings and arrows come in his way.
Hopefully he can prevail through all of that and they
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can win. But even if God forbid, they didn't, the
way in which he handles it, I think, you know,
will be important for him.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Perhaps if Trump gives him a big job to do
and he actually does the job unlike Kamala and could
have a success there. But what do you think of
the political future of Nicki Haley is do you think
she's done.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Oh, I hope. So, I mean, I don't know who.
I don't know who her voter is again, and you know,
I would say that Nicki Haley is to the Republicans
almost as Kamala is to the Democrats. I do think
she is smarter than Kamala, but she is that same
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just doesn't connect with people. And I'm not sure who
who really would be like, Oh, Nicky's my gal that
I'm going to go stand out in the hot sun
for eight hours holding a sign for I just don't
see her eliciting any type of enthusiasm like that.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Well, with the world on fire the way it is,
I want to ask you a final question and we'll
wrap this up. But the election coming up, if it's
like the last one, there's going to be a lot
of questions. And I still feel like, and I'm pretty
certain that there was a lot of tampering done in
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that last election. I've never considered Joe Biden a legitimate president.
Do you think the Republicans are savvy enough right now
seeing what happened in the past. Can we counter the
ballot stuffing? Can we counter the vote harvesting? Can we
have counter solds to polls? Can we go in and
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make sure that they don't cheat, so that when this
election is done, win or lose, at least we're comfortable
that it was a free and fair election.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I think there will be questions regardless. I actually had
pondered this question, and I was thinking back on election
Day in twenty twenty. You asked me if I know
what I thought would happen, and I said that I
was cautiously optimistic that Trump would prevail if we had
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a free and fair election, but that I was concerned
and felt like that was a big if. At this
point in twenty twenty four, I will tell you that
I am cautiously horrified at what could happen because I
take kam lead her word the future is now, and
like I said, I'm out on that all right, well
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prified because what we now know, the ends to which
the left will go to for a win. What we
know and what we also know the Republicans, I don't
think have adequately done to try and counteract. That is
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the reason why I have a degree of just being horrified.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Any chance, any chance she's not the nominee at this point.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
There is always that physical safety thing.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Oh yeah, somebody might take a shot. Let's certainly hope
that that does not happen. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I'm not advocating.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I don't think the country needs it.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It's a reality and today in today's world right now,
I don't think that, you know, you can take anything
off the out of not off the tape, but out
of the realm of potentially happening.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, this is crazy time, But I like having her
as an opponent.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I think that there's a lot of advantage to that.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Oh yeah, I think I think thembest person ever to
run for president, and I don't think it's close.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I think that the American people, it's very It's at
this point. I love going to things where I can
be around patriots and people who I know care about
this country and are concerned about the longevity of this
country and maintaining our you know, Judeo Christian values and
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our Western civilization. I love all that. At this point,
we have to be more practical, and there's a lot
of people that I think that don't really care about
this country. They're just too wrapped up in whatever their
daily deal is. And it's not to say that they're
in you know, they're trying to make a living and
working to do the best that they can for their families.
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But those people, I pray that they come out of
their bubble long enough to see that things really are
on the dicea side, And if for no other reason
but their own self interest, they look at what's happening
with their financial futures, they look at what's happening within
their professional lives, and the opportunities they have are more
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likely don't have, and they see what's going on in
the world, and maybe they shudder a little bit when
they head out someplace because the police are so under
siege and we don't know who are walking our streets. Maybe,
you know, if they get a chance to go to
a baseball game or something, they kind of look over
their shoulder and think, wow, I sure would hate for
something bad to happen here. I hope those things are
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in enough people's minds that get them to the polls.
And I mean that's very negative, that's very pessimistic. That's
not a really nice view of my fellow countrymen. But
if that fear, if that concern motivates their own self
interest to get to the poll and vote for Donald Trump,
I'll take it. All day, every day.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, I think it's an existential election. Has our friend
Larry Ward said on the show the other day, This
is an existential election. We can't take four years of
Kamala Harris And I'll mention this the next time we
get together on a podcast. We'll know whether we're at
war with Iran or not. We'll know how the nation's
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economy is faring, probably in a recession by that time
because it seems to be coming, and may have a
little bit better idea of where this election is going.
So we'll do it again soon.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
All Right, the world the way it is, lew An
Anderson political pursuits. I'm Lynn Woolley with Planet Logic. Be logical,
and we'll see you next time.
Welcome to Planet Logic and Political Pursuits. The podcast a
joint effort today. I'm Lynn Woolley and lew And Anderson
is joining me the show today. The World the way
it is LEU And as we speak right now, the
Dow futures were eight hundred points off this morning, which
is Monday. The state of Israel was bracing for attacks
(00:25):
from Iran over what has been going on in the
Middle East. And we have the prospect of Kamala Harris
becoming president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Indeed, so I would say, you know, she has her
little tagline the future is Now, and it would seem
that this morning that is exactly the case. Get Ready.
What we're seeing today, I'm afraid is just the beginning
and there could be plenty more of all of all
that you mentioned going forward with her at the helm.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, things happen. But boy, this this whole presidential election
has been one that reminds me of a Hollywood script.
Nobody would believe it. You know, one guy gets shot at,
the other guy drops out. Now we've got Kamala Harris
in the catbird seat for the Democrats, it seems like
to me. And tell me if you think I'm wrong,
(01:18):
But if Trump can just play his cards right, I'm
gonna say this, keep his mouth shut a little bit
more than he does. Sometimes these world events are going
to make it all most impossible for her to win.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I tend to agree, and I tell you we've got
some agreement from an odds source, and that would be
one David Axelrod. He has been out and interviews. He's
talked about how that he thinks that this race is
Trump's race to lose. He told that to CNN here
in the last few days, and he said that the
positive election vibes right now that the Democratic Party is
(01:58):
experiencing that it's he brought up a phrase from old
year's irrational exuberance. I do think he's right, and I
think that these events as they're going on here hopefully
will be shocking people back into a reality of like
I said, you know what the future could bring with
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somebody like her.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, you know, I think that this is a self
inflicted wound by the Biden administration. And of course, part
of it goes back to the pandemic. And when Trump
was president, he was told by all of his advisers,
oh my gosh, we've got a pandemic. We've got to
spend like drunken politicians, and so they did. And then
Biden came into office, and as the pandemic began to subside,
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he kept on spending, so he didn't get built back better,
but he got the bipartisan infrastructure thing through, and he
got the so called Inflation Reduction Act through and that's
what sent inflation through the roof, and then inflation going
up as high as it's gone to me has led
to this situation where the Fed apparently mismanage this. They
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weren't able to control it in any way, and now
foreign markets are reacting to this jobs report we had
last week. All the economic indicators are horrible. How does
how does Kamala? How does Kamala avoid not getting smeared
with being part of the administration that brought us to
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this point.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I don't think she does. I think that the only
thing she is going to try and avoid is answering
for that, and that will be in the form of
not doing, you know, substantive interviews, not doing news conferences,
and trying to avoid or at least find a way
to control the playing field of any debate.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Well, yes, and in the time since she's been the
presumptive nominee, and that's about to be codified here. She
hasn't done a single media interview in Leuanne. The only
time that she has been off teleprompter since that happened
was out at Andrews Air Force Base after that prisoner exchange,
and she meandered around, repeating words, going back to earlier phrases,
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repeating them again. Stuff about the Biden administration. At least
we have a president that knows the importance of what
the importance is, of how important it is. I mean,
she cannot go off Mike how or of off script.
How is she going to debate him? And do you
think that if they have a debate, will Trump be
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able to restrain himself kind of the way he did
with the Biden debate when Biden was digging his hole.
Trump let him dig it. I think all he's got
to do is have short, to the point answers, which
isn't easy for Trump, and let her dig the hole.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
But he did. He did a good job that night.
He kept coming around the policy, he said, made away
from the personality. He did it with Biden. Yes, absolutely,
he did it with Biden. And the other thing you
have to remember, Trump likes success. Trump likes a win.
He got the win that night by invoking the exact
strategy you're talking about it. So with the idea that yes,
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that was a winning strategy, you better believe it, he
can do it again and he will do it again.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well, I want to take you back to the day's
headlines here for just a minute. Biden, as we speak,
is about to be meeting with his national security team. Israel,
which has been not totally cut off but mostly just
getting defensive weaponry from the United States because the Democrats
have an anti Semitism problem in their base. But if
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this erupts into a major conflict, and I expect that
the chances of that are higher than fifty percent. Israel
has taken out two or three major terrorism terrorism leaders
from Hamas and has Bola. Iran's not happy about it.
They're going to strike back. Nedan Yahoo is one of
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those prime ministers who will slap them again if they
do that. If all this happens, how in the world, Yeah,
how in the world is Harris going to control this?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
She isn't. She isn't. I mean of anyone who has
no foreign policy experience of anybody that they could have picked.
There probably is no one that would have less foreign
policy experience than her.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But all that stuff down at the border that she's
done exactly which is none No, can you but seriously,
lou can you imagine her sitting in a room with
Vladimir Putin or she jin ping? Can you imagine that?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Not in the least, Not in the least. And it's
not oh, just because she's a woman, you know, and
as a woman, I will very comfortably say that it's
not just because she's a woman. It's because she is
the woman that she is. There are women who could
walk into that room, and yes, they would be up
against certain biases, you know, with being female going into
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that environment, but I have confidence that they could overcome it.
Hillary Clinton, much as I despise, the woman, at least
had a degree of formidability if she, you know, in
walking into a room into a setting light that Kamala
doesn't have. That. Remember back in the years when who
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was it was it Cheney that all of a sudden
they kept talking about that he had gravitas, and I mean,
you know, within the one day news cycle, they just
ruined that word largely forever. But it is a good term.
And Kamala has zero on the Gravitas scale.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well, that is correct. Do you take her off the
teleprompter and it's a total disaster. My problem right now
with this race is that I think after the assassination
attempt and after probably the most unified Republican convention that
we had in Milwaukee, and Trump had half of a
pretty good speech, and then I thought went off on
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the last half, maybe in a little not quite as
good a direction, but he still came out of that.
It's his election to lose at that point, and then
of course Pelosi and some of the others pushed Biden
out and now we reset the election with Harris. I
still think it's Trump's election to lose. And I want
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to ask you bluntly, do you think Trump can manage
to lose?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Oh, Republicans can always manage to lose. Unfortunately, true, they
always can. We know that there is historical president throughout
the years, the decades. On that one. That said, I
do think that you know, as Axelrod calls it, the
(09:11):
irrational exuberance, I do think there is a lot of that,
all of this fundraising that she's supposedly getting that is
is not real. And you know, James O'Keefe has done
a great job doing some exposing of you know how
Act Blue has taking all this foreign money and basically
(09:31):
laundering it into faux small, small dollar donations in order
to make her look like she has some big ground
swell of financial support from the population. Same thing happening
on social media with TikTok. They've got all these influencers
that are out there. I mean, you want to talk
about Left has always loved to say that, you know,
(09:53):
Republicans are AstroTurf. Oh my gosh, this is AstroTurf on steroids.
And I do think that people are going to start
seeing through it. Plus not to mention that their own
lived experience. And when we have all this turmoil going
on today, who knows what's going to be happening here
with the stock market, the headlines are full. I mean
(10:16):
I'm here now living in the Dallas Fort Worth area,
and everyday local news has stories about, you know, some
company that isn't going to make national headlines, but it's
some local company that's laying off, you know, several hundred people.
And so people's lived experience is going to weigh in,
hopefully more heavily than any of this other AstroTurf that
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the Democratic Party is peddling.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Well, I think you're right about that. I think there's
two Democrat parties right now, Lewyn. I think there's the
one that we see on CNN and MSNBC where Harris
walks on water that she has all these accomplishments, that
she's ready to be the president of the United States.
And then there's there's stories like this one about all
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the Democrats behind the scenes are in a panic mode.
I don't know how long the media can cover for
Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
And I would wonder, especially after what they have gone
through with Biden, that how bad can these people look?
These people, meaning the media, they covered for Biden. Everybody
knows they covered for Biden. Have they no shame? Well,
we know the answer to that. But I mean it's
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like at some point you would think there would be
some shred of self respect that they want to try
and regain and not pick another loser to try and
prop up who ultimately is going to be revealed as
you know, the flawed candidate or the flawed individual that
they are. One thing that I would say, is that,
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you know, for people like you and I who follow
this all of the time, a lot of times, the
prevailing wisdom is that, oh, well, the VP candidate really
isn't going to make a big difference this time. I
think the VP candidate is going to be huge. Well,
I would think that it could be in the process
of being of changing even as things are unfolding today.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well, it probably could be. This situation with the war
or the possibility of an all out war in the
Middle East certainly shines a big light on the ethnicity
of Governor Shapiro and Ingo and the college campus protest.
We had that here in Austin. I'm sitting in Austin.
(12:43):
You're up in the Dallas area. We're two big city
kids right now, but you're up in the Dallas area.
I don't imagine Southern Methodist University had a lot of this,
but I could imagine their minds, believe.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
The University of Texas at Dallas did.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
And I would imagine the University of Arth Texas did.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yes, No, they're there, they're around.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Well, we had we had it to the extreme level
here that we were one of those campuses being covered
on the network news all the time. These these people
who were agitating at those college campuses are part of
the base of Kamala Harris's electorate. She needs them and ergo.
She did not go to the meeting or to the
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speech of Benjamin nettan Yahoo when he was in DC,
although she did meet with him. What did you read
into that?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Oh? Oh, absolutely, that was total political posturing. And I
mean and that's why I would say that in the
last twenty four hours, Josh Shapiro's hopes of being the
VP have plummeted. In fact, I would be shocked if
he were picked. I really wasn't thinking. I believed the
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anti Semitism was going to nix him. Three four days
years ago, I thought that was the case, just based
on the fact that Michigan is too important to them,
and also Minnesota is in play and they don't want
to rile up the Muslims in those two states. I
thought that would be strong enough working against him, that
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he was not as likely a candidate as was being talented.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well, and of course by the time we put this
podcast up, well the people listening to it may know
who it is. It'll be interesting to see what our
prognostications are. But I was more worried about Mark Kelly
than anybody else because he's not quite as left wing
on some issues like the border, for example. But I
don't know if they can afford to lose a senator
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out in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Well, and he's got a China problem.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And he's got a spy balloon problem, right.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Right, Yeah, So I mean I and I agree with
you on the loss of the Senate seat out there,
and so I don't know how strong he is. I
think Tim Waltz is the guy.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, I'm tending to agree with you. I think Shapiro
was the guy until yesterday, Yeah, yesterday as we speak,
being Sunday.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And Waltz is the anti jd Vance.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well, jd Vance is another question. I'm sure. I don't
know if you've read Hillbilly Elegy. I have read the
book cover to cover. I got it for Christmas at
some point, an autograph copy, so I knew his backstory
and all that. Jd Vance is thirty nine years old.
I believe think he just.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Turned forty yesterday or day before.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
All right, so he's entered the decade of the forties.
He's got some things he said in his background that
the Democrats are pouncing on something about women that have
children should have more power than women without children, and YadA, YadA, YadA,
and Trump's sleft that off as simply, well, he's pro family.
That's nice. He did speak at the border this past
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weekend and was able to string not one, not two,
not three, but several sentences together extemporaneously, extemporaneously without a teleprompter.
And was I thought the way that he attacked Kamala Harris,
but he didn't attack her personally. He attacked her border
(16:30):
policy the results from what she did, and I was
thinking that I wish Trump would learn from that and
do the same thing. But he tends to she's dumber,
She's a low IQ person. She's a female, dumber version
of Bernie Sanders, and so on and so forth. Brian
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kemp Out in Georgia is the worst governor in the
country and all this kind of stuff. Does that add
or subtract?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I think it depends on. I think for some people
they like it, others accept it, And you know, unfortunately,
there's the persuadables out there that are really who we
need to be concentrating on right now. I'm with the persuadables.
That's probably why they're in the persuadable category that kind
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of like to go with him, but they still have that,
you know, a little bit of that hesitation and that
type rhetoric is what fuels that. So I do hope
that maybe, you know, as he and JD are out
together and he's hearing more of what JD speaks, you know,
maybe he'll maybe he'll see some of that. And also
(17:38):
I think that his people are they're going to have
to be having some strong talks with him, and it's
not like the man is by any means stupid, and
I mean talk about somebody who knows how to read
a room. I'm hopeful that he will just see that
in the same way like you were talking earlier, that
Biden just when he was on the stage front and center,
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he dug that hole and Trump stood by and let
him do it. I hope that he will see that
that's the tactic that he needs to take throughout the campaign.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well, let me ask you this. I'll start with JD. Vance.
If something could happen to Trump, we saw it almost happen,
a quick turn of the head at the exact right
moment inadvertently kept the bullet from going right through his brain.
Is jd Vance ready in your opinion? On day one
to be president?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
It would be a learning curve, as it would be
with anybody. But I think I would put my money
on him more than I would a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Well, I'd rather have him than Kamala Harris, But as
far as the Democrats, I heard.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That I'd rather have him than Mike Pence.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Oh, I'd rather have him than Mike Pence, but I'd
certainly rather have him than Kamala Harris. I'm thinking that
there is an element, and you can expound on this
in any way you want. There is an element on
her choice that she's got to be very careful because
almost every member of the Democrat Party is smarter than
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she is politically. Now, she's a good political climber. She
knows she knows how to have relationships with Willie Brown,
and she knows how to how to leverage her Indian
or her Jamaican or whatever heritage at whatever time to
help her climb the political ladder. But when it comes
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to politics, she's dumb as a rock. So is she
going to try to find somebody that is at her
intellectual level. And I'm not doing this to disparage her.
I'm talking about what I see when this woman talks,
when she speaks, when she when she has some kind
of a policy on Monday, but it's a different policy
(19:57):
on Tuesday. I think anybody she picks well out shiner,
and I think that's a problem for her.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yes, and of anybody in the mix that would be
the intellectual match for her, I would say it would
be mayor Pete. And while he certainly I guess it
was last week, not this past weekend, but weekend before
I saw him on with Shannon Breeman of Bless his Heart,
was he was auditioning just to the max for that
(20:30):
BP slought. I haven't really gotten a sense that he
has been in the anything much more than just on
a list, And certainly his dismal performance in the last
few years has taken him even to a new depth
that I would not have quite expected.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
So well, I know you're talking about he's Palestine, where
he refused to go, and probably talking about some of
the major problems we've had with airlines. No, he hasn't
done a great job.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, yeah, you know. And meanwhile, just the overall infrastructure.
You know, our transportation infrastructure is certainly, you know, worse
off than it was when he took control. And he
appears to have been very kind of Mia, but I
suspect he's been living a pretty large life on the
taxpayer dime. So you know, no, I think your point
(21:29):
is well taken that anybody is going to a fair
degree shine over her, And frankly, I'm not sure that
the Democratic Party sees that as a bad thing, because
let's also remember an interesting thing about Waltz that I
think just as kind of a file of the way,
is that he's the current chair of the Democratic Governors Association.
(21:53):
And let's face it, we've got a few governors out there, Knewsome,
Whipmer who would like abide at this apple in twenty
twenty eight. So I think that anybody's going to upstage her,
And again, I'm not sure that there isn't a faction
of the Democratic Party that's not just like, we go
(22:16):
through the motions here, we put her out as the
sacrificial lamb, she goes through, she loses, We're done with
her and we can move on to somebody strong.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Yeah, done with her and done with Biden and probably
after four years, that's all we're going to have with
Donald Trump. But let me ask you this, And you
mentioned Buddhajet, and I'd thought about that. So you want
a female on the ticket, and you want a male
who has female traits and has that picture of him
(22:47):
wearing that bib with those babies. I cannot imagine this
man negotiating on the world stage with anybody. I just
can't imagine it as a male. I know, and be
attacked for seeing this, but I think we need some
manly men. I think we need some men who act
like men, or we need some women who can act
(23:08):
like Margaret Thatcher. And I don't see I don't see
any of that.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
No, no, And I mean, you know, one of the
things that one of the criticisms that the Biden regime
has gotten over all these years, rightfully so, I think,
is that we are perceived as weak on the world stage.
And you put that ticket out, and I mean you are.
(23:34):
You know, you might as well have the week in
neon lights flashing above them, you know, like an applause
sign week week week. That's all that would would do.
And I mean that would be devastating for the country.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, as we as we approach yet another war. Remember
Trump didn't get us into any wars. Trump didn't get
us into any and as we approach another one instead
of just Gaza and the Palestine, Onians, Israel maybe in
a full blown war with Iran. Who what president was
it if you can remember off the top of your head,
(24:10):
that had the Iranians on their knees. They didn't have
any money, they couldn't build any weapons, they couldn't move
forward with their nuclear program. And then what president took
over and came in and helped them, and he sent
them a lifeline, threw them a rope, let them get
back on their economic feet so they could make missiles
(24:31):
and bombs and start working on their their plutonium enrichment.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Again, yes, unlike his predecessor, he didn't send it didn't
appear he sent palettes of cash. But he might as
well because he certainly got them back up funded. Again. No,
the contrast is stark. And you know that's one of
the things that is said through this, that this is
an anomaly of a race, and that you do have
(24:57):
two candidates, or certainly that was the case with Biden
and Trump. Although Kamala. She's been there wearing that tag,
that vice president name tag for all these years. So yep,
the Harris Biden administration, I think, you know, she well
deserves to be lumped into that. They they are the
(25:18):
ones that brought back, fueled our enemies and and devastated,
decimated our troops, our you know, military readiness, our financial
ability to fight wars. And I mean we need to
keep that front and center.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
And they call parents domestic terrorists.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Oh yeah, it's all the it's all the domestic. It's
all terrorism in our country is a function of domestic
domestic individuals, not anyone foreign. You know, not to mention
all of the terrorists that have been, you know, caught
coming across our borders. So Lord only knows who's come
across that we're not aware of.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well, this past weekend, Nancy Pelosi showed up as a
guest with Leslie stall on CBS Sunday morning and opined
that the next president to be carved in stone and
added to Mount Rushmore should be Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I think Nancy's been smoking Hunter's crack pipe.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I think so that just again it gets back to
this deification of Joe Biden, And I think the lie
is the biggest is the best lie is the biggest lie.
We learned that from the Nazis and the fact that
Steve Moore, who we talked to on Talk thirteen seventy
from time to time and is on Fox News, made
(26:43):
a list of the five worst presidents in American history
and Woodrow Wilson was at the top, and he was
followed closely by Joe Biden. So if he's one of
the worst presidents in the world, then the Democrat or
in the nation's history, the Democrats turn that around and
say he is worthy of being on Mount Rushmore. Does
anybody buy this?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Oh? I don't think so. And you know, and in
all actuality, it's too soon to even assess how bad
a president Joe Biden has been. We haven't seen the
complete and total fallout of his horrible policies.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
No, but we're already forget it.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
And let's not forget he's got he's got another what
one hundred and twenty one hundred and fifty days.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, he's still there till January two, damaged, but they've
already started the rehabilitation of his image in his legacy
or the rewriting of history, whichever way you want to
do it. And the same thing with Kamala Harris. This
woman avoided well, she was in the vice president's job
and still is at the moment, but she's not doing
(27:52):
any of the work. She's one campaigning. She avoided any
hard job. When she was given that border job, she
did not want it, and she, by god was not
going to do anything with it.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
No, absolutely, absolutely, And well and what was she going
to do? I mean, who did she go down to
El Salvador or something, and you know, was on that
silly root causes which anybody with you know, taking thirty
seconds out can tell you what the root causes are
and what's attracting these people here.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, a lot of the world's a hell hole and
they want to come here and get free stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, you know. And the other side of
that too is oh, and she doesn't have a problem.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
With that, No, she doesn't. I want to ask you this.
We've got maybe ten minutes left. I want to ask
you this. The world is a mess. We titled the
show today the World the way it is. All right,
So we've got war in Ukraine, and remember how quaint
it was when we just had one war going on.
All right. So we've got war in Ukraine, We've got
war in Gaza. We're about to have war any between
(29:00):
Iran and Israel. We've got a president that refuses to totally
support Israel because of his anti Semitic base. We've got
you see the CNN headline right now as I'm looking
at it. Online markets are melting down, Foreign markets are
melting down. Trump is going to come into office with
a hell of a mess on his hands, far more
(29:22):
than he inherited from Obama. He's going to come into
office with all of Biden's mistakes, all of Kamala Harris's mistakes,
royling not just the country, but the world. How's he
going to fix that?
Speaker 2 (29:38):
It's going to be it's going to be a heavy lift.
And I mean he's going to He's coming in in
under circumstances that make what he came into with twenty
sixteen look like a cake walk. Because on the military front,
you need to also remember we've got Taiwan sitting over there,
and you know, there's it's remains to be seeing what
(29:58):
Chishi Ping made try and do during a Biden administration.
We also have the Philippines. China's over messing around with
the Philippines, and there's some thought that she has such
a kind of tenuous control over his whole position right
(30:22):
now in China that he could use a win, and
that going in and stirring something up, trying to take
over some land in the Philippines somewhere in that area,
that that might be the easiest, cheapest win so that
he could better shore up his position domestically. So anyway,
(30:42):
you know, there's all of that going on as well.
Plus not to mention the fact that when we've got
our you know, debt that has risen to the astronomical
level that it is. That and all of the trip
wires that the Congress and different agencies have put in
over this time to try and hamstring Trump from being
(31:04):
able to take certain actions unilaterally. It's not going to
be an easy task. It's not going to be an
easy task at all. And I think that his even
his degree of success will be hampered because of it.
But anything is an improvement. And again, you know, Kamala
wants to say the future is now, well, I'll take
(31:25):
her at her word, and I'm looking at what's happening today,
and if that's the future, thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
But no, well, I think a lot of this is
brought on by the national debt, and we can't quit
this spending. There's a website called Just Facts Daily that
has looked at not only the national debt, but has
looked at what else the government has as responsibilities, things
that it has made promises to, and it has come
(31:51):
up with that the federal fiscal burden now consumes ninety
three percent of America's wealth. The government really owes one
hundred and forty two trillion, not thirty five trillion. And
that's adding in all the stuff that the government's responsible for,
like federal employee pensions, unfunded obligations for Medicare, Medicaid, social Security,
(32:14):
all of that, and nobody ever mentions this. And I
have yet to hear Trump mention the debt, but once
I think you mentioned it once, either in a rally
or at the debate. I can't remember. Joe Biden is
never going to mention debt. I haven't heard Kamala Harris
mentioned debt. But that's our existential crisis. To hell with climate.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Change, without a doubt, without a doubt, I mean it
can't go on, and any you know, any non ann
any non liberal economist will tell you.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
That, well, I don't know what you do. I don't
know what you do about it right now, because every
time we've had a situation where we might be able
to do something, and you know, some of those people
that the media hates and normal people hate, like Marjorie
Taylor Green and Chip Roy, bring this up from time
to time and say, we've got to do something before
(33:09):
it consumes us. And it's very close to consuming us.
If the federal fiscal budget is taking ninety three percent
of America's wealth. I didn't graduate yesterday, but that still
says to me seven percent is what's left for us
to deal with, and that's not much. And so that
we keep borrowing and borrowing and borrowing, and we're going
(33:31):
to have to dig out of this at some point.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Well, and I think that you know, in the past,
Trump thought that when you have an economy that's blowing
and going, you can to some degree grow your way
out of it. And at a point I think that
that probably you know, there was some truth to that,
although you know that didn't mean that we still don't
(33:55):
need massive spending cuts and God only knows that there
are plenty of places that could start happening. And you know,
just from a kind of a superficial or cosmetic standpoint,
quitting sending money to Ukraine and you know, quitting giving
all this money to the illegal aliens coming over here
could be a nice start.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Well, I think we're going to have to get rid
of the Department of Education, probably Commerce Interior. We just
can't afford to have these things and sometimes they just
end up growing the swamp. And that's about it. But
we're gonna have to look at entitlements, and there's we need.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
To start looking at the every agency, especially like the
State Department and the Department of Defense and what they're
doing and funding a lot of these NGOs, these NGOs
that are doing the things like bringing in the illegals,
doing things like setting up all of these these civic
groups that are doing bad things with regard to our elections.
(34:59):
There's there's a lot, a lot of these NGOs that are
getting crazy amounts of money, and that's something that I
think that would be a very good initiative to take on.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Well, it would sure be nice if instead of worrying
about mean tweets and name calling, that we could talk
about the national debt, we could talk about getting the
wokeness out of our military, getting the wokeness out of
our schools. In all of that, who do you see
as the heir apparance to Trump win or lose? He's
(35:32):
got for easy. He's either done now after the election
if he loses, or he's got four years as president
and he's term limited for another president. Who do you
see four years from the upcoming January to be in
the catbird seat for twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I think it's too early to tell. I mean, JD.
This certainly could be a life changing experience for him
and for his trajectory. I mean, he's going to have
a ton of slings and arrows come in his way.
Hopefully he can prevail through all of that and they
(36:17):
can win. But even if God forbid, they didn't, the
way in which he handles it, I think, you know,
will be important for him.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Perhaps if Trump gives him a big job to do
and he actually does the job unlike Kamala and could
have a success there. But what do you think of
the political future of Nicki Haley is do you think
she's done.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Oh, I hope. So, I mean, I don't know who.
I don't know who her voter is again, and you know,
I would say that Nicki Haley is to the Republicans
almost as Kamala is to the Democrats. I do think
she is smarter than Kamala, but she is that same
(37:02):
just doesn't connect with people. And I'm not sure who
who really would be like, Oh, Nicky's my gal that
I'm going to go stand out in the hot sun
for eight hours holding a sign for I just don't
see her eliciting any type of enthusiasm like that.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Well, with the world on fire the way it is,
I want to ask you a final question and we'll
wrap this up. But the election coming up, if it's
like the last one, there's going to be a lot
of questions. And I still feel like, and I'm pretty
certain that there was a lot of tampering done in
(37:41):
that last election. I've never considered Joe Biden a legitimate president.
Do you think the Republicans are savvy enough right now
seeing what happened in the past. Can we counter the
ballot stuffing? Can we counter the vote harvesting? Can we
have counter solds to polls? Can we go in and
(38:04):
make sure that they don't cheat, so that when this
election is done, win or lose, at least we're comfortable
that it was a free and fair election.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I think there will be questions regardless. I actually had
pondered this question, and I was thinking back on election
Day in twenty twenty. You asked me if I know
what I thought would happen, and I said that I
was cautiously optimistic that Trump would prevail if we had
(38:36):
a free and fair election, but that I was concerned
and felt like that was a big if. At this
point in twenty twenty four, I will tell you that
I am cautiously horrified at what could happen because I
take kam lead her word the future is now, and
like I said, I'm out on that all right, well
(38:59):
prified because what we now know, the ends to which
the left will go to for a win. What we
know and what we also know the Republicans, I don't
think have adequately done to try and counteract. That is
(39:20):
the reason why I have a degree of just being horrified.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Any chance, any chance she's not the nominee at this point.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
There is always that physical safety thing.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Oh yeah, somebody might take a shot. Let's certainly hope
that that does not happen. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I'm not advocating.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I don't think the country needs it.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
It's a reality and today in today's world right now,
I don't think that, you know, you can take anything
off the out of not off the tape, but out
of the realm of potentially happening.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, this is crazy time, But I like having her
as an opponent.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I think that there's a lot of advantage to that.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Oh yeah, I think I think thembest person ever to
run for president, and I don't think it's close.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I think that the American people, it's very It's at
this point. I love going to things where I can
be around patriots and people who I know care about
this country and are concerned about the longevity of this
country and maintaining our you know, Judeo Christian values and
(40:41):
our Western civilization. I love all that. At this point,
we have to be more practical, and there's a lot
of people that I think that don't really care about
this country. They're just too wrapped up in whatever their
daily deal is. And it's not to say that they're
in you know, they're trying to make a living and
working to do the best that they can for their families.
(41:04):
But those people, I pray that they come out of
their bubble long enough to see that things really are
on the dicea side, And if for no other reason
but their own self interest, they look at what's happening
with their financial futures, they look at what's happening within
their professional lives, and the opportunities they have are more
(41:27):
likely don't have, and they see what's going on in
the world, and maybe they shudder a little bit when
they head out someplace because the police are so under
siege and we don't know who are walking our streets. Maybe,
you know, if they get a chance to go to
a baseball game or something, they kind of look over
their shoulder and think, wow, I sure would hate for
something bad to happen here. I hope those things are
(41:50):
in enough people's minds that get them to the polls.
And I mean that's very negative, that's very pessimistic. That's
not a really nice view of my fellow countrymen. But
if that fear, if that concern motivates their own self
interest to get to the poll and vote for Donald Trump,
I'll take it. All day, every day.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, I think it's an existential election. Has our friend
Larry Ward said on the show the other day, This
is an existential election. We can't take four years of
Kamala Harris And I'll mention this the next time we
get together on a podcast. We'll know whether we're at
war with Iran or not. We'll know how the nation's
(42:33):
economy is faring, probably in a recession by that time
because it seems to be coming, and may have a
little bit better idea of where this election is going.
So we'll do it again soon.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Look forward to it.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
All Right, the world the way it is, lew An
Anderson political pursuits. I'm Lynn Woolley with Planet Logic. Be logical,
and we'll see you next time.
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