589 w/ Chris Jericho - Twisted Sister - Be Chrool to Your Scuel

589 w/ Chris Jericho - Twisted Sister - Be Chrool to Your Scuel: Chris Jericho returns for a sequel to last week's episode and joins Chris, Nick, and Andy to break down "Be Chrool to Your Scuel" from 1985's Come Out and Play by Twisted Sister. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
They're trying to tell us something.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
They have figured out the.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
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Speaker 5 (00:26):
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
Salvation Army buckets are not out anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
You have no excuse. That's right, the pod funderstand. Army
is going to come out to your grocery store with
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as always joined by this fella. He's stretching. I don't

(01:29):
know what he's doing. He's spreading his wings behind me.
He's ready to dance.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Each and every week, here we go, Nick.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Nick Pollock has entered the program. Nick, welcome. What are
you doing today?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, first of the year has happened. I figured we
needed to get limber, get in shape.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
That's what I want to have.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
The copier of the dogs and we got to start
off stretching this year. Yeah, I don't want to hurt ourselves.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
It's a good thing. It's not basketball shorts weather and
I have to get the mop out over there. I
left a little puddle on the tile.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
That's what the dogs are barking at.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I could smell it the under the door.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Smell it a little bit. The smell the fluids on
the tile. They want some of it.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, Nick, thanks for being here. Thank you to your
immediate left.

Speaker 6 (02:40):
You want him, We got him, can have it every day?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Can he get out of the way.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, you put your hands together for the breakout star
of the podcast medium, Chris l is here. What's happening, Chris.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Not a lot new year? First show of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yes, oh yeah, yeah. For some reason I was thinking
the other yeah it is it was just yesterday. Yeah,
I was thinking when just came out. No, yes, first
show of twenty twenty five. Yes, welcome and look at
this here we go exactly true. Joining us again, ladies
and gentlemen.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
Chris Jericho, Jimmy, Oh, it's Buzz's music too, Jimmy as
Buzz's music.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Welcome back.

Speaker 8 (03:57):
Great to be back back with the purpose. I have
two questions for you, though. First of all, I meant
to ask this last time, who is it? At the
beginning goes this is made for chaos?

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Who is that?

Speaker 2 (04:08):
That's that's Perry Farrell from Woodstock ninety four.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
One of the most insane performances that a band has
ever put.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
On at one of Oh that wasn't the crazy one.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
But Parnal for Pyro's was pretty wild.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Next level. Yeah, and then what song is Chris's song?
Got the have it?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Oh, it's I Don't Want It Montrose off the first
Montrose album. For all the people, go ahead, O you go.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
I was gonna say those are my New Year's resolutions
to find out what those two songs are.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Figured you knew the Montrose one for all the people
who accused me of being a Sammy Hagar hater. He's
my theme song.

Speaker 8 (04:55):
There's actually a picture on the Internet of me, rich
Ward and Ronnie Montrose from the Nam show. Maybe twenty eleven.
We were both sponsored by Dean Dean Markley Strings and
we did a signing together.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
He was a lovely man, very nice guy.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Oh yeah, cool, that's that debut is a classic, obvious,
beyond classic.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely so.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I mean, you're pretty lucky for January. Second, you had
two New Year's resolutions and you got them both checked
off the second day of the year. I know, what
are you going to do it for the three hundred
and sixty three days of loafing around?

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Just start drinking, doing drugs, get fat, hookers and blow.
I'm done.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, until next year. You're good to go.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Wow, good to go.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
What a blessing that would be? They have it day two.
I'm already got it all done. How can I improve
on this? I can't. Well. Welcome back. We're glad to
have you back. We were talking a little bit after
last week's episode the Twisted Sister Leader of the Pack episode,
and you vaguely hinted towards I don't know if you

(05:59):
want to say a equal or something that it made
you another song that episode made you think of, but
you didn't share with us, so we don't know what's
going on, but you said you wanted to come back
and do another one, so we said absolutely, what's going on?
What's on your mind?

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Well? Yeah, usually I like to stagger my appearances. Obviously,
I always enjoy hanging out with you guys, but a
little of tuge goes a long way. Well so, but
I really wanted to come back after last week's performance
of of.

Speaker 8 (06:32):
Was It the Leader of the Pack and just that
was such an interesting discussion about kind of the demise
of Twisted Sister based.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Around that song. I wanted to return to to to
continue a discussion in that vein.

Speaker 8 (06:48):
So that's why I want to come back quickly, and
before we get back to work and things get crazy again.
We're still kind of on the tail end of the holidays.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Yeah, I was able to make you work this week.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
All right, Well, we're lucky to have you. We're happy
to have you. The listeners are saying the same thing.
Everybody's happy.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah, this rattlehead said that. Very nice of her, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yep, so everybody's happy. Is there anything any business you
guys need to get taken care of before we get
right into it or are we ready to go? What's
going on? I think we're ready to go, ready to go,
no big treat today.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well, we're getting in shape.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I guess that's the resolution.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, we we we cleared out our cabinets and Gorge.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Threw everything away. Okay, we ate it all.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's Oh, so that's a serious thing.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
You and the family are no me and you guys.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Oh I thought you meant back at across a joan.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
No, we're doing this everyone here in this room. I
guess no one's eating treats anymore. Well, it'll be healthy
next week. I don't want to be healthy. It's going
to be healthy. Being healthy is overrated. The food will
be healthy.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
You may not be, so have the diet theme.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
I can quickly that thing off. I can quickly find it.
If you're buying myself. Amend here. Oh, let's see here,
let's see how fast let's just borrowed? There is? Look
at that. I think he's got it. No he doesn't.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
How many files can you have with this word? And
it's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Ladies and gentlemen, you know what time it is. It's probably.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
John Nay.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I think we start now. Our bikini bodies will be
ready for Jericho Cruz seven, the one that's yet to be.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Named, next, next one after this.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
One could be ready for.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
That are we're not eating at all?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
If we start now, we'll be ready for Jericho Cruise seven.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
The less we eat now, the less well, the less
we can get away with wearing a thunder Me bad
on that exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, no one wants to see an overweight, almost nude
thunder Me Bad.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
We're gonna be almost nude either way. I might as
well make it pleasant, be like the full Monty exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
All right, So is there anything you want to say
about this song? I guess you kind of did tell
us sort of what it made you think of or
what made you choose it. Was there anything else you
want to say before we introduce what.

Speaker 8 (09:28):
I probably announce it, and then we can discuss the
reasons why.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Then let's turn them said, it's very.

Speaker 8 (09:34):
Much on the heels. Yeah, just turn the mic over
to me and then we'll get it. We'll get it
ready to rock here.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
All right, here we go, Chris Jones, Chris Jones, turn
the mic over to Chris Jones.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
This hot. Be cruel to your school twist.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Okay, so that's all right, be cruel to your school,
all right, and so we got a there's a guest appearance.
If I'm not mistaken on this.

Speaker 8 (10:06):
One, well before we jump into okay, because you're right,
there's a lot of guest appearances on it.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
But Chris was watching when we were discussing Leader of the.

Speaker 8 (10:13):
Pack last week and how it just bombed so terribly
that Twist's sister, with the last dying effort of the
you know, come out and play album Strolling down the Toilet,
decides to put out this song.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
You might think, Okay, well we made a really big mistake.

Speaker 8 (10:30):
Let's get back to our roots, or let's get back
to whatever made us popular before.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Curious to think what the panel thinks, but this, this
was their reply to the horrific choice of choosing Leader
of the Pack as a single end as a as
a track on the album at all.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Okay, I'm familiar with the title of the song. I know,
I think I'd heard the song. I have never seen
the video. I understand there is a video. I pulled
it up YouTube. I have no idea what happens in it.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Nick, you were talking about the guest appearances. Are you
aware of all of them?

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Or I only know one because there's one credited when
I when we were i'd heard of the song before.
I'm really not that familiar with it, I'll be honest,
but I remember when we were looking at track listings
last week, I remember seeing featuring Dad. You can say
one person is okay, it's not a secret. Well I

(11:32):
did say, actually it's one of his albums, but it's
Alice Cooper apparently is a guest vocalist.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
And that's about the extent I do have knowledge that
I have do.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
That with Alice Cooper.

Speaker 8 (11:44):
Also, guest appearance is by, in no particular order, Brian Setzer,
Clemens and Billy Joel.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Wow, so are they all on the track or are
they just in the video?

Speaker 4 (11:57):
They're all on this track?

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Okay, really, While I had no idea Setzer, that's the
one that stands out to me. Billy Joels real head
scratch whatever. Clarence, I feel like you hire the big
dog to play the.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Same Billy Joel's the you know, fellow New York or
that they brought out to do it.

Speaker 8 (12:18):
But once again, though both Andy and Chris have buried
the lead here. You just mentioned Clarence Clemens to play
the sacks and Billy Joel being a fellow and islander.
What does that have to do with anything in Twist's
sisters fucking pantheon that ever made them a success?

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Saxophone solo?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
What saxophone solo piano? Yeah, I mean fifties guitars, swing media.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
We're just grasping its straws, trying to figure out what
they're doing here without before we get into it.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Very very interesting.

Speaker 8 (12:55):
Well once again, and yeah, like I said, I'm not
going to influence theion of the song. I just was
thought that this would be a great kind of a
companion piece because it was a very interesting discussion of
just the demise of this band very quickly.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
And I just thought, as they're falling off.

Speaker 8 (13:11):
The cliff, this is the last you know, throwing the
rope hoping that it's going to latch onto a overhanging
branch or something. Yeah, you know, And obviously in retrospect
that did not happen. But let's see if they made
the right choice in trying to do that.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Was there a third video or was this it?

Speaker 4 (13:29):
So this is it?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
They're done.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
I think Estranged was the third one. It was supposed
to answer all of our questions.

Speaker 8 (13:37):
Yeah, this this one failed critically and commercially barely achieved
gold status, which is still impressive, but not when Stay
Hungry did probably triple platinum or whatever it was. Yeah, Yeah,
this was it they had. They had one more song
called You Want What We Got, which was a single,
but they didn't do a video for it.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
A single didn't do very well hold the plug on
the video budget at that point. Wow.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah. And then the next video they did was Love
Is for Suckers, But Which Is Right? Which is just
d But is anybody from the band in that? I
don't remember what that video.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
I think it was, like we said it was the
Tony Iomi No Stranger, We're not spending money, not Tonaomi's solo.
It's now a Black Sabbath, It's now a Twisted Sister record.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
But they just had d walking around with Dogs great
another video, and they had to get We've got Andy
Williams's daughter in the video.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Licking a lollipop in the shape of a TS logo.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
So I'm seeing on this album which I didn't notice
last week, but I'm seeing that Don Dakin.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Is credited as a backing vocalist.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Not on any song specifically, perhaps all of them.

Speaker 8 (14:51):
And as you see Gary Holland, yes, who was the
original drummer of Great White.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Not sure how he ended up on that, but there
you go. Extra trivia.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
What does it say for him? Just additional musicians? He
actually it said he had a brief brief stint in
doc In So they must have been hooked up at
that point and they're hanging around.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
The Deeter Dirk's connection.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
It's probably right.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Since he produced the record.

Speaker 8 (15:27):
But once again, another thing to watch from the video.
There's well, there's two things. One I'm not going to say.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Also, this is the original.

Speaker 8 (15:36):
Appearance of actor Luke Perry appearing in this video somewhere, yeah, somewhere.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
In the back.

Speaker 8 (15:44):
He's a background guy and this was his first ever
credit really in any type of show business.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah, so it's got it's got that connection.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Reminds me of a there's an old sort of horror
ish movie where McCauley culkin is a trick or treater.
It's his very first thing he was ever in. It
was the Midnight Hour. It was called the movie.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Wow, it couldn't have been much, couldn't before maybe maybe
a year or two.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
But yeah, that's one of those weird things where it's like, oh,
there's a mega famous person.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Just like Paul Rubins in Spinal Tap.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah right, yeah, which is what that was probably like
two or three years before he blew up his phoebe right, yeah,
or like Dana Carvey and Spiral right, that's good.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Same thing, because what was Dana Carvey like eighty six
I think on sm.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah, but he was in a million TV pilots yeah
before that. Yeah, they knew he was something, they just
couldn't figure it out. Him and Courtney Cox were in
literally a million pilots.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Want to flip that on a Ted Christopher Guest and
Death Wish. He's the uniformed cop towards the end and.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Made a mistake too. It wasn't Paul Rubins and Spile Tap.
Was Paul Rubins and Blues Brothers?

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Oh right? Or wasn't he teaching Chong movie too?

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Right? Maybe? Yeah? I think Nicholas Nicholas Cage and Fast
Times Ridge Went High. It's another one.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, Paul Schaeffer's briefly in Spinal Tap. I guess he
was already, but that's.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Just already already puff Yeah, kick this ass for a man.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
So another thing twisted sisters doing their spell titles wrong
thing on the song.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
We're all Slade fans, so I guess, you know it's
all right.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
What twists to do that?

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Prior I don't know. I guess I was thinking of
Slade and Quiet Right and mixed it up and Prince
I think so, and Prince I think quiet Yeah, I
think that's what I think. I actually mixed it up
with what with Quiet Right? But look at that it's
uh b is spelled the regular way. But then c
h R o O L to your s c U
e L, So they kind.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Of just oposed it.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah, just jack us, you know, I suppose.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, I've never heard this song or seen this video
to my knowledge. A little concerned about the six minute run?

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Oh is its thriller?

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Accidentally?

Speaker 8 (18:17):
Yeah, you don't have to worry about it, Chris, there's
about Yeah, it's not six minutes long of a song,
trust me.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
That's what is it like production piece on either side.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
So let me just put it this way.

Speaker 8 (18:31):
The sequel goes beyond just the fact that it was
the second second song from Come Out and Play. There's
there's another another part to this that's a sequel as well.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
That's that's an exciting little titbit. I'm ready to get
into it. Are you guys ready?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Might as well? All right, six minutes we jump.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
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Speaker 2 (19:00):
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Speaker 7 (19:05):
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Speaker 2 (19:06):
And then we'll be right back with Cruel, be cruel
to your school.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Sorry, okay again, stop it now they did it again,
doubling down on the rated H. Bullshit, not exactly the same,
but it's like, okay.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
We our videos are simply meant to be cartoons with
human actors. D Snyder, this is appearing on the screen.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Okay, so he's already apologized for whats happened in the
past and what you're about to see.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Exactly this is a sequel.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
At least he had the dignity to sign it fix
his name to this. H.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
He's double down. This is this is D Snyder's band
at this point.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, this is just boy and this is a description
I guess us to kind of tie it to something
that was brought up before. The home alone movies are
essentially cartoons. I realized that watching them earlier this holiday season.
But yeah, this is concerning that that d decided he

(20:18):
needed to last Chris put it very well. I think
he's apologizing before I'm sorry, guys. Yeah, it's too late now.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
And in the wake of of Leader of the Pack,
this comes on MTV. How are you How are you
not shutting off the TV immediately when you see this
or or changing the channel. Who's who's gonna I mean,
we're gonna sit through it because that's what we do
on the show, But this comes up randomly on MTV.

(20:49):
Who's sitting through this? Even at this point?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
The word simply to me, including the words simply, is
like you're assuming the audience is having a cow already
and you need to calm them down, Like, look.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
They haven't even seen this yet.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
It's simply meant to be cartoons. Yeah, it's like, take
it easy.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
He's apologizing already.

Speaker 8 (21:12):
No one's even seen the fucking thing, and they're already
going like, hold on, before you get up worked up here.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
And again, like we said last week, not one person
in the entire organization could put a stop to this
and say we're not putting this at the beginning of
a video, right, it's not right.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Yeah, And the thing about it is too. It's like,
once again, this has really gone down the path much
quicker of when kiss you know, in the late seventies,
when when Jeane says, you know, we looked in the
crowd and it was all kids. We knew something was wrong.

Speaker 8 (21:48):
It's like these guys have already admitted that there's just
a joke to them. It's a cartoony like what happened
to fucking under the blade and you can't stop rocking?
And I get it, it's okay to to expand the HARII,
but take after the ship that happened last time with
leader of the pack leaning into the other direction, do
something fucking heavy, you know what I mean, Like if

(22:09):
it if it tilted so far one way, lean the
other way and see if that worked.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Don't lean completely into it so it fucking tips the
whole boat over it.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
That's it's a real mystique killer to come out with
this as the statement at the beginning of the video.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, it's a terrible idea. They're doubling down on it.
Almost half of to give him credit for that, just
you know, defiantly going straight down the ship pipe.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Well and and.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yes, use you use the word defiant. And this is it,
says D. Snyder. Clearly there, this is the same guy
that what a year before in Congress UH told everybody
what SMF stood for and looked at had the most snotty.
I find expression on his face that you'll ever see.

(23:03):
And now this, Yeah, stood stood up to the p
M R C. Tipper gore the whole He stood up
to the man. And now he's admitting to being a cartoon.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
So get over it.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, all right, Well let's see if the song itself
or whatever happens next can save it.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Jesus, it's just if it would have only said that,
I think that would be better.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
That would have been the right thing to do. And again,
all it would have taken was again a five second
conversation among people, level headed individuals in the Twisted Sister
Organization to be like, okay, leave off the D. Snyder
quote and start with this, Yes, exactly, this, this works.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
I love the fact they dated it too.

Speaker 8 (24:00):
Number twenty eight, nineteen eighty five. You all remember where
you were that day?

Speaker 2 (24:07):
I mean no, that's I mean.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
You don't get over yourself.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
History is written by the victors and d Snyder is
the victor.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, all right, here we go. I continue.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
I would like to continue us. What's about the leading.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
There's Luke Perry. Huh there he is. Oh yeah, and
look who's right behind him, Michael Winslow.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
It's it's Steve Nick on the other side.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
I was gonna say, I was gonna say early Taylor Swift,
but you know, just the dates don't line up. Yes,
I think you're right. But Luke Perry, thrusting is growing
into the camera, getting ready for uh how he's going
to be at nine oh two one.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Oh yeah, he's got the James Dean thing going on.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Our Yeah, he like like sprang fully grown from the
head of Zeus or whatever that mythological story is. You
have fully formed Luke Perry right here, balls thrust into
the camera.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
They put him in that seat on purpose. Of course,
he's not just they didn't just say, hey, sit wherever
you want. Everybody who's an extra now they're like, this
guy's going here. Do the balls thing.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Do that ball thing you did during the audition.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
That's what got him the gig. The ball's thing. When
you lead with the balls, keep going with the balls.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
It was like him and John Cryer, They're like that
crier guy's pretty good, but the other guy did the
balls thing.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
All right, experts, I'm America, right, we have what balls dust.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Weasel.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
I am not trying to say that making tacos is not.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Once again, how are you? How are you not shutting
this off by the time it gets to this when
when you're you're watching MTV hoping to see some kick
ass rock videos in the mid to late eighties and
this bullshit comes on. Nobody's sitting through this.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
What the thing is is that at this point you're
you've been conditioned to sit through the long comedic intros.

Speaker 8 (26:30):
I think, But the thing is, but push you basically
started the long comedic inter From what I remember is
Twisted Sister on the State Hungry record and they had
the dude, I can't remember what his name is, but
Niedermeier from fucking Animal House who it's good you can
still watch him and he's an asshole.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
This is so grating. Yeah, this goes in the poly
Shore Yakov Smirnoff, Emo Phillips category. Whoever fucking thought this
was funny?

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, who's serious? You can throw him on that.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
I just don't know what he's talking about this far.
That's the part that's that's.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Losing me, is I.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
I don't mind his his shtick that much of just uh,
the weird speech pattern, because that's what the eighties were
is you had to have a weird speech pattern if
your max headroom or something like that, and then then
you've got that component down. I just don't know what
he's talking about. Yeah, that's what's bothering me the most.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Clearly none of the students in the room too either.
They're all completely baffled by this idiot.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
All right, let's see, let's keep going.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
God give him the ability.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
But this was a long long time ago before we
ever had that.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Hey, such shot.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Now you can hear a squill.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
There's a lot of me on a squill.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
You just got it.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
You just gotta.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
I know, Adam, I have a question.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Okay, I was gonna ask something to but yeah, it's difficult.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
But do you think the am I overthinking this is
the reason that Bobcat is doing this and it's just
all nonsense that doesn't go together at all?

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Is that like like the cartoonish Charlie Brown adult it's
the cartoonish This like you don't listen to your teachers anyway.
They're just talking bullshit up there, and that's what it's
like to the ears of a child.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's a bit meta.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Maybe, Yeah, I don't think that much thought went into.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Okay, it's just do something weird, Bobcat, you'll be the teacher.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
That's actually kind of clever your take on it. There's
none of that that I can detect.

Speaker 8 (28:36):
So, yeah, this is Bobcat is hot. They thought that
they wanted to reprise the fact that on I.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Want to Rock and.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
We're not gonna take We're.

Speaker 8 (28:45):
Not gonna take it that they had Kniedermeyer and both
of them, so this was the same thing except for.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Bobcat apparently was the new kneder Meyer.

Speaker 8 (28:53):
Whatever that's worth it, because like you said, this is
just terrible, like the okay, so we're starting to figure
out that the students roll in the days because he said,
where did I lose you? Yeah, so that's what's going
on here, for whatever that's worth.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
But it's like you said, it's fucking.

Speaker 8 (29:10):
Annoying it and also to we're now one minute into this,
you know, in this day and age, ten seconds is
too long. In a minute though in nineteen eighty five,
I'm out.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, absolutely, and the Niedermeyer stuff makes a little bit
more sense because it's, uh, it's clear exactly what's happening,
but what do you want to do with your life?
Like it's this authoritarian person and you get it, like ok.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
And it's also a direct tie into one of the
greatest comedies of all time, which at that point was
only six years in the rear view mirror. So it's
not like ancient history. It was still six years is
a long time in the grand scheme of things, but
it was a direct rip from, like I said, one
of the most one of the greatest comedies of all time.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
So you know, it's not like Bobcat was that like
you know, like we're comparing them last time to kind
of Sam Kinnison sort of like Sam Kinnison was a
million times bigger than Bobcats. Oh absolutely, you know, and
a million times better. Then this just comes off like
it like it just it's just fucking not good in
any way shaping for.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Them, and Kennison had an iconic scene where he was
a high school or college teacher, college baptist. Yeah, so
this point here has to go to Kennison.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Oh, no question about it.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
People disagreeing in the chat, well.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
About what disagreeing with Bobcat?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I guess so I like some Bobcat fans.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
I like Bobcat, but I just don't know what's going
on here. It's it's like it's losing me, and I
think it's I think according to what you guys are saying,
it's lost you guys as well.

Speaker 8 (30:48):
And like I said, like as a kid, you know,
we all used to you would if if the ticket
said seven o'clock, you'd get there at seven o'clock, sit
there for half an hour, watch the opening band because
you wanted to see everything. Right, So I would watch
this once because I would want to see what's gonna happen.
I would never watch this twice. I watched We're not
Gonna Take It a fucking hundred times, yeah, you know,

(31:09):
and I want to Rock fifty times, only because they
hardly ever played it in Canada.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
But right, I would watch this once. This is fucking terrible.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I wouldn't have made it this far at that point
I was. It would it would have been shut off.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Would either changed the channel or went to the bathroom,
or to.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Just bong hit number six of the day, and.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
It would have made sense when.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
You no, I wouldn't have ruined my buzz by watching
this garbage. It would have been I would have been
retreated to my room and put on something on the
stereo that I wanted to listen to, not some coke
head yelling at me like this it's weird voices. If
I weren't that, I would go into one of my
roommates and face to face treats turn the TV off exactly.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
And since we're talking about I guess the second week
in a row, we'll talk about Bobcat versus Kinnison. I
don't see. I guess the nature of it was Kennison
said that Bobcat stole Kennison's act.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Right, something like that.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
I don't see any similarity just from from things, like
from things I've seen from both of them, though, there's
zero similarity as far as material that I can tell.
Maybe there's something out there.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Maybe it happened, you know, like maybe it was we
were at the same club and he did one of
my jokes or something, you know what I mean. Maybe,
but just just the whole, the whole.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Package for both of them, seems I don't see any
sort of direct lines between them where you'd say, oh,
this guy's kind of like this, like they say, you know,
Dennis Leary took Bill Hicks's the whole persona like that.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
I can see, but I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
It's just the yelling, stuttering, stammering comedian around the same
time frame.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yes, which is akin to compare you know, lumping Stone
Temple Pilots and with all the other grunge band. It's
just a lazy comparison. It's not based in anything, but
you know, it fueled the animosity between them, which whatever.
You know that that's good for publicity, I guess, but

(33:18):
if you're really paying attention, yeah, there's there's nothing similar about.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
And I misunderstood what was happening in the chat. Everybody
was saying the opposite, that Bobcat is not on the
level of Sam Kinnison and never should be compared. So
that's what they're saying, just to be clear.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Agreed, agreed, Okay, well.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Friends, but they won't pick you up at the airpots.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Dingleberries.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
That's a review them actually.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Made me.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
There's a review after all the dumb ship. He just
said that was actually kind of funny.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Everyone like Perry gave him the shoulders.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Checked him on the way out.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah he did.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, okay when Scott Stevenson of the Blue Line is
fucking wrecked him.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 8 (34:20):
Now we got one one minute, seventeen seconds into this thing.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
So far, I can beat up anything one of you.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
And there's another scene.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Oh man, we're in the teacher's lounge.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Us.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, it's gonna get real crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Got a ping pong table in there.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
All right, let's see what happens in the teacher's lounge.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
What are you mind if I plug in? He says,
this is uh And once again, I saw this video
probably the first time in three or five years, when
I watched it a couple of days ago. That's Tom Savini.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
It looks familiar. Okay, he's the like the horror effects guy, right.

Speaker 8 (35:30):
The greatest makeup effect artist of his time, Tom Sevini.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
How do you How do you recognize him? Is he?
I thought it sounds like he would be a behind
the scenes guy. How do you know what he was?

Speaker 8 (35:41):
He was in Dawn of the Dead. He was if
you ever seen from Dust Still Down. He's the guy
where the gun barrel comes out of his cock. Like
He's been in a lot of different things.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
And there was a documentary about him too, Like I've
just seen his face all over.

Speaker 8 (35:56):
He's a pretty well known guy in the in the world,
if you know horror movies.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
So as soon as I saw this.

Speaker 8 (36:01):
I'm like, oh, okay, there must be a reason why
he's in it. Like I said, I don't even I
don't even know if I've eve ever seen this video
until I watch it. So this is like kind of
planting the scenes that oh, okay, this is gonna have
some sort of a horror movie direction. But now once again,
we're almost two minutes into this fucking thing and then
nothing has happened.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
No, it's more of Bobcats just unbelievably annoying yelling and
how do you not shut this off long before you
even get to this point?

Speaker 8 (36:32):
Yeah, Like this isn't twenty seconds, this is two minutes. Yeah,
this is like a death knell. In the modern world,
nobody would ever be.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Allowed to Oh it's a death knell back then, you know,
like Nick's Like Nick said, it's like, do you you
fucking guys think you're you're putting thriller out? Is this
your thriller?

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Exactly, Okay, it's not and just a shocking it's you're
wondering if is it arrogance? Stupidity? Foes?

Speaker 8 (37:05):
I honestly think it's a comp I honestly think it's
more arrogance. And also to the Emperor has no clothes
where I think d right? You know, he says to
himself in that book I was talking about last week,
shut up and grabbed the mic. Yeah, that he was
completely completely unapproachable, like he knew it was up. He
was the star of the show, right and didn't want

(37:25):
to hear anything about it.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Well, yeah, that happens all the time, right, like when
someone's leading the charge.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
What's the only explanation for what we're witnessing here?

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Did you guys hear about the debacle of Joker Part two?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Which part of it?

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Well, the fact that it bombed huge. It was a
two to fifty million dollar budget and did fifty million
dollars the box office. It's a musical, yeah, And when
I asked some people why the fuck would they allow
this to be a musical, they said because the first
one was such a hit that the writer and the
director Todd Phillips was giving KRT blanntch to do whatever
he wants. Oh, he knows what to do. Yeah, it's
a musical all he knows.

Speaker 8 (38:02):
He's he's tapped into the into the youth of today,
and then fucking turned on him.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Same thing happened with D At this point in time,
I think.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Okay, I didn't realize that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, Yeah, it's a it's a that's a good modern
day tie. And it's just like, yeah, with with nobody
to check anybody, you know, sort of you know, do
the Luke Perry throw his shoulder India and snap you
out of it, whatever ego trip you're on, and say, look,
this is a disaster. We can't move forward with this.

(38:35):
And when there's nobody available to do that, you you
get a complete fucking train wreck.

Speaker 8 (38:42):
And just imagine the other cats in the band too,
going like what the fuck are you doing? And he's
just like, I don't care. You know, either either do
this or leave or you know, once again, it's twisted
sister Dy Snyder, who gives a shit about anybody else in.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
The band, right, Yeah, to any fan at that time,
no one else cares right.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
No, not really and when and also too, I think
we talked about this last week.

Speaker 8 (39:03):
When when when the singer also writes all of the
music right and all of the songs, what are you
gonna do?

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, it's like when Ghosts had the issues and then
everyone just got fired nixt favorite band. Nick doesn't like Ghosts,
so anytime I could bring a ghost destroyed over that happening.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
But the Nameless Girls.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
You know what, though, if you listen from one album
to the next, you can kind of hear a difference.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Oh, they're nothing like they were when they first came out.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
I agree with that sister ghost once they had their
big turnover in the band. I don't know. Sounds like
a twisted sister situation to me, but whatever, Yeah, I
don't know. I was also just gonna mention that sometimes,
you know, there's countless you hear, like in documentaries or whatever.
You've heard countless stories where someone is behaving, like how

(39:58):
you're saying, d was behave but they were right, you know,
like so many times like dude, I know, I you know,
this is the next thing, and then it turns out
they're correct. This is just one of those times where
they had the same confidence as those people and they
were wrong.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Yeah, so it's hard to tell.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
You never know, and you can look back and say, Okay,
I I fucked up. I was wrong.

Speaker 8 (40:18):
Yeah, but once again emperezno clothes. Anybody on the outside
looking in or the inside looking in would say this
is not.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
A good idea.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
And like I said, I.

Speaker 8 (40:26):
Appreciate the fact that they had the commercial success and
stay hungry, but what brought them to the table was
the fucking like say, Motley Crue. Okay, they go to
uh smoking too, the Boys Room era, you know, and
and it's all pink and it's it's it's it's glam,
and it's.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Theater of pain.

Speaker 8 (40:46):
They knew it was too much, So the next record
they're back in black leather, girls, girls, girls, motorcycles, fucking
no makeup. H was just a need to do that
on this fucking release. Yeah, and they've not done that,
so we haven't even heard the song yet. This could
be the greatest song in the world.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
And it's in no song.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
I would have never gotten to it.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
A twenty second intro where Bobcat said, there's a review
tomorrow and I could beat any one of you up
and then right into the song. I would have loved it.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
The best part is Luke Perry checking him to the ice,
you know, level leveling him Scott Stevens style.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
All right, well, I'm assuming it's going to kick in
now because Tom's asking Bobcat if he can plug in.
So here we go. Very fine, So right off the

(41:51):
bat we did get some fifties rock and roll with
the piano and the saxophone.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
I'm not sure what to.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
Make of it.

Speaker 8 (41:58):
Are we led to believe that that Bob Cat turned
into d and Savini turned into Alice Cooper?

Speaker 1 (42:03):
That is exactly.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Yeah, everybody everybody else in the lounge turned into the
rest of the band apparently.

Speaker 8 (42:13):
And also to just this is also a takeoff on
a Beach Boys song called be Cool to Your School.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
That's where they got that.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Okay, yeah I remember that.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Yeah, that's that's an even more preposterous title than this.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
Yeah, be cool to your school, just like you would
to your girl.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
There you go, Hey, that meant that meant something back then, right?

Speaker 4 (42:36):
They met more than what we've just seen in the
last two minutes and twelve seconds of this horse Ship.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah, exactly. This is interesting because the hell is.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Going on here? Zombies eating each other and again this
is their thriller, thriller with.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Making out instead of choreography and the Tom Savini Uh.
I wonder if he even did the effects or if
he just showed up. No, he did, he did, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 8 (43:21):
And it's it's also kind of the Beatles rule of
you know, start with the chorus, don't boris, get to
the chorus, but they didn't just start with it. They
did a double chorus right at the beginning of the song.
Like if you don't like that chorus now, it's not
going to get any better for it.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Yeah, that's true. Also, it's kind of interesting that they're
taking the position of the faculty in this in this
video versus previous videos where it's like the faculty is
a bunch of you know, uh whatever, you know that's
bullying the kids and the kids just want to rock,
and this one it's the kids are a bunch of
dickheads and the teachers. That's true, that's a good.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
Right as well.

Speaker 8 (44:01):
Zombies sitting in school, Like I'm sure there's some sort
of double meaning there, like, you know, high school just
makes all kids turn into zombies because it's so boring
and whatever we're supposed to be going.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
Yeah, I'm not getting that.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
It's the kid's fault. I'm gonna go ahead.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
And say, Okay, I'm not blaming this on the school system.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
It's too easy.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Well, it's gonna bite this guy's hands.

Speaker 8 (44:42):
Let's know, his his filed filed down teeth that are
completely vampiric now. And it's not just the front too,
there's the incisors on the bottom as well.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
So is that did he actually get that done or
is that that's not just like some kind of effect.

Speaker 8 (44:59):
No, actually, day file his teeth down. Yeah, that's kind
of a bad idea. That seemed maybe cool at the time.
That would have to rank up their top five for sure.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Yeah, messing with your teeth, that's that's not a good idea.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Teeth or jewels, not tools. A dentist friend of mine
once told.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Me, he's right, you cannot have a fucked up grill.
You need to address that ship immediately.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
It's true's the word, that's the word of advice for
the year.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
But it's absolutely to do you disagree, No, you have to.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I just went to my dentist two days ago. He
said the same thing when I walked in.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Sign that's gonna be my next business idea signs for
dentist's office.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah, and he had a picture of the animal Mendoza
poster on the wall. This, this dentist of mine has
all these rock and roll posters all over, So really
it's not that much of a stretch.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Yeah, you should bring up the song next time you
got Yeah, I'm say, can you please play be Cruel
to your school while you clean my teeth next time?

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah, you have. You've got to prioritize the teeth. And
if you you know, if if you're getting up there
and you're you know, you're missing a tooth or like
things are going south with your teeth. I don't care
how many fucking credit cards you got to take out
you pay for that ship to get done and get
it fixed. That has to be your number one priority.

(46:36):
Your teeth. You cannot have it. It just you know,
it's it's you have to whatever it takes to pay
for that ship, you do it.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, it's hard to disagree with this. What what would
come before that? There's no, there's probably nothing.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yeah, maybe your car, I don't know, so you can
get back and forth to work, but I'm not even
sure about that.

Speaker 8 (46:59):
Probably less will take a bus with nice teeth and
have a fucking DeLorean with.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
The shooting.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Delorean's automobile or a nice set of choppers. Give me
the fucking Steve Harvey rope all day long.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
All right, let's continue.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
So I guess to me, it's not it's kind of
falling flat musically. It's two piano heavy mm hmm. It's
I mean, it's I guess there's an element of, like,
this is cool because this is a quote unquote metal
band and they're going really they're really going for it

(47:59):
production wise as far as a throwback, but it's I
don't know, like you see Twisted Sister. Yeah, and there
are expectations and this isn't the expectation.

Speaker 8 (48:10):
And once again, just to just to add to that, Nick,
we got to go back to nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
Is that when this record came out eighty five or so?

Speaker 8 (48:18):
Yeah, eighty five, early eighty six, and what's going on
at the time right now? You know, the Metallica's out,
and Maidens at their peak and fucking Deo's at his
peak and all this other shit's going on, Ozzie's fucking awesome.
Why why is D thinking, you know what, you know what,
we need Billy Joel and Clarence Clemens like no metal

(48:41):
guy would be like, we'd be like, this is fucking stupid.
You want to bring guests, Bring on you know, Dave
Mustain and fucking Bruce Dickinson or something. You know what,
you want to bring on some piano, bring bring out
Claude Schnell from the Deal Band to play some keyboards
or something.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
But guy, yeah, I never heard that name. He also
should have changed his name. He added him to the
list of rock and rollers who should have changed their
name claunch Sell. But yeah, I'm assuming this is just
like a proximity thing where these guys, you know, they
met it like the MTV Awards, and instead of just

(49:20):
shaking hands and saying, oh cool to meet you man,
they're like, okay, we should do something, and it got
too far. It got out of control instead of just
being a handshake and a drink together.

Speaker 8 (49:30):
I think D was a huge Alice fan. You can
kind of tell by his you know, watch and all
that sort of stuff. But yeah, but this is also
when Alice was totally in the throes of deep dark alcoholism.
This is even before a fucking man behind the mask
and constrictor and razor fist and yell came out. So
Alice is probably just showing up for for you know,
fifty bucks in the case of beer or whatever.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
M okay.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
You want. That's another person who needs to get her
teeth fixed right there. Fill in those gaps, girl, do
what you gotta do.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
What is the line, be cruel to your school because
you may never get another I don't know. I mean,
you can get you can get transferred, if you get
in trouble, you.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Can go to as many schools as you want to.
They're kicked out.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
They're never going to tell you can't go to school anymore.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 8 (50:40):
Another another thing too, is is Tom Savini, you know,
one of the true greats in his field. I don't
really feel this makeup is all that great. It looks
like really kind of party city, just rubber masks.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
And like it's not awesome.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
And you can see her teeth, you can see her
real teeth if you love.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
I mean it's you know, well, so.

Speaker 8 (51:04):
At the court and the chorus that the bridge chorus
is uh, because hey, I gotta know, am I slow?
Where do I go from here? Do ABC's and one
two threes mean that much to me?

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Okay? So yeah, hmm, it's all over the place. I'm
confused by a lot of things going on in the song, Like,
is it from the perspective of the students again, now
the song itself is from the students, with the videos
from the faculty. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Yeah, that's I don't know, it's yeah, it's really uh,
it's unfocused.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
And also, like, you know, part of the appeal of
that early Twisted Sister stuff was that you're empowering the youth,
and this is like, you're a bunch of morons. Well,
and that's so right, you know, write dirty words on
the bathroom wall and you're an idiot anyway, so you
could doesn't make a difference. I don't know. Yeah, And

(51:59):
that's not at all anything new in nineteen eighty five. No,
I mean that's no.

Speaker 8 (52:05):
I mean how many how many? How many videos was
were there in schools at this time? Yeah, you know,
so many, even going from freaking you know the best
the best hot for Teacher or aforementioned, much to Chris's chagrin,
Kick acts on the Road to Rock. You know, there's
so many they're just hanging out in schools, And here's

(52:26):
another one in the school except for the zombies.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
Or much to Chris's light, much to Chris's delight, Britney Fox,
Yeah that too.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
Girls school.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yeah, I mean that one's that that That video took
a minute to get going. But I'm sitting there and
watching that because all I see are gorgeous chicks in
the room except for the Bulah ball breaker character. This
I'm not sitting through. Oh and and I just looked
this up. Apparently Alice got sober in nineteen eighty three,

(52:58):
so he was not in the throws of addiction at
this point. He has no excuse for participating in this nonsense,
no excuse.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Probably a big payday right at this point.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
I don't decline, man, they were just they were just
rubber stamping this crap.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
But you don't think that.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Going she got blank checks. It was not happening anymore.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
It's uh yeah, to think that that d Snyder was
just unquestionably in charge of everything. Just to me, it
sounds and he's such a confident guy, like you've seen
all the interviews. But you can see where that someone
could run away with that and really not realize that

(53:51):
they're they're just headed right and right off a cliff
basically with it and taking everybody with them. And and
just because because I mean, he's an intelligent guy. But
I mean, you can you know, if you've read interviews
with them and things like that, you can tell it's
very much I've got what I've got to say, and
I'm gonna elbow my way to the front of the

(54:12):
line to make sure everybody hears it. And I think
with that kind of attitude, it can it can really
go wrong because there's zero compromise.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
I have a feeling that sounds right.

Speaker 8 (54:24):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's exactly right. And when you get
to that point, you know, I think the other guys
in the band, like you can see even this reminds
me a lot of black you lowless and loss. That's
another one you can put in there. The less involved
the band was the worst the band got until it
just kind of lost the plot completely because I don't
even think I mean, we saw the guys in the
band at the very beginning, but we haven't really even

(54:45):
seen them since.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Well, for a split second, you could see him up
on the standing up on the desks and something which
I was actually get a comment on, but we got
away from it. If you want to make take it
back a few seconds, which which I hate asking for
because this is horse shit and it's six months minutes long.

(55:07):
But JJ French could not be less interested in being
on the set when you when you see his his
appearance here when he gets up on the desk.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
I was going to say that because I think JJ's
always considered himself or maybe was kind of the right
hand man in this band, maybe even kind of the
other alpha male, just from stuff that I've read and
stuff that I've heard, Like I don't think I've ever
even seen an interview with any of the other guys.
I bet you he was just like, fuck this shit,
all right, I'll do it.

Speaker 8 (55:37):
Whatever whatever you want, King D, whatever you want. Sit,
don't stink Snyder.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Well your your namesake. The animal Mendoza I remember in
the Behind the Music episode had some pretty uh scathing
words to say about D Snyder up to and including
and that he wanted to kick his ass and almost
daily bass. But yeah, JJ French, maybe by default, but

(56:05):
he was definitely like the you know, the Keith to
D's Mick in this situation.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Yeah, yeah, it wasn't this Now, didn't we learn last
week that D was kind of the new guy really
relatively as far as the band's history wasn't what didn't
the band kind of exist before him and then he
was kind of the younger new guy.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
I thought that.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
I hope I'm not.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
That's vague telling.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Tales out of school, if you will. But if that
is the case, there's that seems to be a situation
that that happened.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
This was Yeah, this was JJ's band originally.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Okay, because I mean you've got like what I guess,
is there sort of a Steve Perry and Journey kind
of a thing where it kind of kind of gets
taken over by the new guy who's the face of it.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Yeah, but you know what, without that new guy, you're
fucking a fry cook during the day.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
So it's it's staying when he joined in the police
and McCartney, when he met John Lennon.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
And yeah, you put it in both guys.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Yeah, no, D notes with his sister definitely.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Yeah, and yes, exactly, so you know, deal with it
is basically the the mantra there.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
You know, I went back ten seconds? Is that enough?
You think it should be?

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Just, you know, talk the very definition we phoned.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
I think Chris needs a screenshot of where you paused
it so he can do some Devil's Advocate dialogue.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
I'm sure we'll see other JJ French here as well.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Yeah, all right, not many, but since he's the key,
if he'll be in there a little bit, so let's
find him slow motion.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
I mean, he's a guitar player, and he looks like
he doesn't know how to play guitar. That's how uninterested
he is.

Speaker 8 (58:01):
He looks like Gene Simmons in the You Make Me
Rock Hard video where he doesn't even know how the
song goes.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Yeah, sure, now by Contra, not now? By Contra asked
in the background. Mendoza's into it. He was always into it.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Happen to have a job. He knows what side the
bread lies on there.

Speaker 8 (58:21):
That way he had, he knew got to keep happy,
no matter what JJ French thinks.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
He knew the bills for those painted on hairlines, we're
not going to be cheap.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Moving forward, we looked at that picture of him last week.
My god, that odd whatever.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
His jewel he looks like.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
If there was a muppet made of Steven Sagall. His
hairline looks like.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
It's a jarring thing. When he comes up on Blavormouth
and there's a photo it is, it's like you scroll
past it and then you gotta go back.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Oh, it's not scrolled away, it's you want to look
at it.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
You scroll past it and you're like, wait a minute,
wait a minut.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Yeah, I just see that. This guy really.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Look like kind of like the not to that degree,
but the singer Dream Theater. That's another one.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
When I yea, you brought week okay, m yeah, he's
that's weird looking guy, yea doubling down on your James
LaBrie attacks and I'm I'm here for it. I love that.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Yeah, no recollection of bringing that up last week.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
The the just the the precisely detailed Van Dyck mustache, beard,
cobbo and you know, guys, he's pushing seventy and it's
jet black and it's just like it's just not it's
not natural. It doesn't look good. Who told you that
looked good?

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Yeah, Rod Blogoyevitch told him it looked good.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
When is James Meong gonna step up and Labrie's face
and say, dude, just get rid of the just from then, Okay,
get rid of it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
It's actually John James.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
John James, his brother Jackie, who knows whatever. You know
what I'm getting at. You know, somebody in the organization
is and by full disclosure, and this is an accurate
criticism in the comments, we ourselves have been criticized that

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nobody in the pot organization stepped up to say, look,
we're not doing another Twisted Sister song two weeks in
a row. We're not doing well.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
It was a surprise.

Speaker 8 (01:00:35):
And if you're ever going to do the sequels, which
there is, listen, whoever said that needs to shut their
ass because the reason we're doing this, we're talking about
a band that had top of the top and went
down the drain. This is this is a dissertation on
how a band can lose the plot.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Yes, whatever is your.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Fucking the headshrinker or Nancy McKeon, whoever the talk to
you right now, Tommy mcgeinn, you need you need to
shut up and just let it once again, never let
the fans dictate it. This was the week to do it,
because it's the one two punch.

Speaker 8 (01:01:10):
This was their chats to redeem themselves, and they fucking
failed miserably, And you never heard a Twisted Sister with
relevancy again until twenty five years later when nostalgia kicked in.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
You just attacked two innocent individuals, the people you ripped.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
It to or not pardon par sol flateral damage. Then
I got the name wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Boy? What a what a? What a? What a devastating
insult to be called Nancy McKee. I mean to be
compared to the lesbian and facts of life. That's a shot.
That's a that's a fucking science shot at somebody who
didn't even deserve it. He wasn't even the one who

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said it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
I apologized.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
This fits into the chaos that is the Twisted Sister universe.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
It is. We're one step away from him calling somebody
tooty at this point, I.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Don't think we have any listeners that can be confused.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
With d Well, well, we'll draw that parallel. We can
connect those dots if we need to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
All right, all right, let's see what happens. Guys, come on,
here we go halfway through.

Speaker 9 (01:02:24):
Now, it was a nice effect where he was putting

(01:02:49):
the food down the front of his throat because he
had no throat.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
That was but why was he chewing If he was
bypassing his mouth, why would you chew?

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
That's best not to ask hot to you.

Speaker 7 (01:03:04):
So hot?

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
This is uh.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
I'm trying to figure out what was going on there.
We we talked about mister French, but I'm trying to
figure out what our buddy, mister Perow is doing in
that last scene.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
It's like he almost was trying to fight off the zombies,
but not really.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
I don't know. They weren't really committed, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
I don't know that there were was there instruction or
was this like was this like when Bobby Rock made
the mean face into the camera and during the Boys
Are Going to Rock video where there was no instruction
given him. He just made the mean face and then
and then the whole video turned.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Yeah, really took uh went south. I know that because
I asked him.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
He told me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
I was like, did someone tell you to do that?
He said no, so he just did it. He said
that they had cameras kind of revolving around the drums,
just kind of trying to catch things. And at one
point he made an angry face into the camera.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
That's funny that you asked him that and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
He remembered it and instantly answered, well.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
I mean he had he had symbols that look like
they were from the video that he was selling. Really yeah, yeah,
he had I think that. I don't know if they're pink,
spray painted pink or something, Okay, but he had like, yeah,
beat up looking symbols that were autographed that he was selling. So,
I mean, he he knows that video you remember. Plus

(01:04:37):
he's a machine. He like, he's a pretty incredible guy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Yeah, by all accounts everybody. I've never heard anybody say
anything bad about him.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
No, he's and he and he's he can play how
many rhythms at the same time. He's crazy. But something
else I wanted to say, you guys, would you were
older and more in touch what was going on at
this time? So well, maybe not Nick, but the to
Chris's I like music like this on it you know
now on its own, But in nineteen eighty five fifties

(01:05:06):
rock and roll probably wasn't especially cool.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Well, I mean the Stray Cats where we're waiting for
Setzer to make his appearance. I don't know if he's
in the video or not. But great, so you had
they were the one and only band that was really like,
you know, having any success with like a throwback.

Speaker 8 (01:05:27):
I'll say that, Like, I like this song. I mean,
it's a fun song. It has kind of the vibe
of some of that fun, twisted sister, I want to
rock type stuff. So there's actually a TV movie that
came out starring Keith Gordon about some kind of a
they were like some kind of a military.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
Kids camp or something like that, where this was in
the background. It kind of fit. There was chaos in
the lunch room or whatever it was.

Speaker 8 (01:05:54):
I just don't understand why they would focus on this
as a single after a leader of the pack, like
if if the Cruels.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
First, And like I said, I do know that this record.
I've said it a million times. There's a couple of
song There's a song called the Fire Still Burns. There's
a song called I Believe in Rock and Roll. There's
a song called looking Out for Number One.

Speaker 8 (01:06:15):
They're really anthemic, twisted sister like kind of what we
want from them at the time. So I like the song.
I just don't know why this was chosen as a
single at any point, especially after Leader of the Pack,
So you know, it's got to bounce to it, it's
got to bound.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Like that's a Twisted Sister riff, that's a d Sneinder riff.
All this other shit though, there's so much fucking guest
stars and this, that and the other thing. It's too much.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
But don't you think that's got to be the reason why, Like, hey,
everyone's gonna be talking about it because we've got this
person in this person and this person.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Why did they double down on fifty stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
I don't know, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
I gottaee doing one one song where you kind of
do a throwback like that. But this makes it sound
like the whole album was gonna be like.

Speaker 8 (01:07:00):
This, Like like if this was the first video and
single from the record, I think things would have been
different and it wouldn't have been a hit.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
But this is much more along the lines of a
Twisted Sister type vibe. And there's zombies in it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:14):
Okay, it's fine, they're eighties zombies, but they're still zombies.
And Alice Cooper's in it, which is cool, right, It's
just that, like you said, they've doubled down on this
Leader of the Pack comic h for humor, simply a joke,
and it's like, fuck man, it's too much.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
And then a minute and a half of Bob Golf. Yes,
at the beginning, too much.

Speaker 8 (01:07:35):
This is what's called stunt casting when you when you're
watching a show or so it sweeps week when they
used to have those, and they'd have fucking Cosby Show
it Who is it's Carl Lewis, Olympic gold medal winner.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
My car broke down field? Can you help me fix it?

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
That's a perfect Strangers episode, right Andy, Carl Lewis was
in one.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Well, he was on the Cosby Show as well. But
it's just like, this is just too much overkill of this,
you know, not cool. They make big names. Yeah, Ryan
Setzer's not cool, Billy Joel's not cool, Bruce Springsy's not cool.
Fucking all these other guys aren't cool, and it's just
too much for it for us.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Yeah, they're cool to a different audience.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
Yeah, that's rockers in nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
Yeah, so keeping with the theme of eighty school comedies,
I can't help myself there. You mentioned a track on
this album called looking Up for Number One in parentheses,
I'm gonna add, make sure you don't step in number two?
Is that Rodney made that Jack.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
Looking up for number one? Make sure you don't step
in number two.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Go back and live with Move back in with your parents.
It's tough out there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
All right.

Speaker 8 (01:08:48):
The name of the movie I was talking about was
Combat High also known as Combat Academy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
That sounds like a Troma movie.

Speaker 8 (01:08:58):
Yeah kind of, but it's a tea is it made
for television comedy that came out in eighty six that
had this song in it?

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
All right, let's see if this kid gets his head
cut all the way off.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
How long do we have? Two and a half minutes?
I think they can do it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Fingers Oheita sharing the screen with Alice. That's pretty uh
pretty uh pretty nice nod to him.

Speaker 8 (01:09:37):
I love this guy his name because I like Eddie
o Jetta is what I thought his name was, Eddieojita
Ohda Oheida?

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
The fuck has it ever been confirmed what his name is?

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
I always I pronounced it ohda, But that's because there
was a picture for the Mets named Bob Oheida.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
It's probably pronounced it probably right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
And both good and and since he was a Pitcher.
He could have also been nicknamed Fingers and it would
have worked.

Speaker 8 (01:10:09):
They they used to have this thing at the Lucky
Strike Bowling Alley in Hollywood. It was like open jam
night and attract some pretty good names and it just
kind of put together like an all star whoever was
there And one night when I did it, it was uh,
whatever it was we did, I don't know and shouted
out loud with me and Fingers. Ohita was the guitar

(01:10:32):
player on stage with me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
You shared the stage with Fingers, That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
He was pretty good, pretty good player too. He was
a good guy. He had fun.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Who else was up there?

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Was?

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
It just like a house band.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
You guys have heard of Brian Titchi.

Speaker 5 (01:10:45):
He was.

Speaker 8 (01:10:48):
Called Brad Lang, who's lead of Ford's bass player or
Wyan T's bass player, just those types of Hollywood guys.

Speaker 4 (01:10:55):
The big the big thing of that night was Billy
Sheen and Nuno Bittencore doing a little jam together, which
is pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Isn't Itchy and Jeans band?

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Right now?

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
I think he is.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
I think he is real.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
He's like he's been in a million bands.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
He plays with everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:11:13):
Okay, the only one who.

Speaker 8 (01:11:27):
I just said, Alice, Alice, ain't no joke. He said,
You're not the only one that's boring, getting should I

(01:11:52):
kind of like that lyric. Now, there must be a
better way to educate, because this way working.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
Like it should. Can't they just invented pill or frozen
concentrate that makes you smarter and tastes so good?

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Oh it didn't, Right, that's pretty cool?

Speaker 4 (01:12:06):
All right, Yeah that's a good one. Yeah, I thought
that was cool.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
I don't hate that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Yeah. I didn't catch any of that, but anytime you
can work in the phrase frozen concentrate your da you're
approaching Dylan territory at that point.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
I just pull it back ten seconds so you can
you can hear that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
And I wanted to comment real quick on the So
this was eighty five, so that would make it. When
did the Heavens on Fire video come out? Because we
had hands on fire here before? Okay, so two years
of glorious shots of hands on fire in rock videos.

(01:12:47):
The home teacher comes walking in, all right, here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
All right, So obviously they didn't get clearance for the video.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
No, did I just hear sets or start?

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
I think?

Speaker 6 (01:13:34):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Yeah, Okay, that's cool.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
I think I think part of the deal would be,
you know, if you guys are going to do this,
you have to appear in the video.

Speaker 8 (01:13:41):
Yeah, right, Especially Clarence and sets are like, what the
fuck up are they doing?

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Else?

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Cooper made it? I mean, why isn't everybody in it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Not making I think in the Garden, I think you're
being a little hard on uh Clemmens and sets Her
in the mid eighties. I mean they were pretty formidable, certainly,
I mean Bruce Springsteen was massive. No, I understand that.
But but you're saying, like you're saying, what else was

(01:14:10):
Clarence Clemens doing in nineteen eighty five while I think
he was participating in the Born in the USA tour,
like the biggest tour of Springsteen's career.

Speaker 4 (01:14:20):
And take it back and take it back.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Granted, sets Her had the Stray Cats say had run
its course. He was going down the becoming a roots
rocker with what the knife feels, The knife feel like
justice and stuff like that and stuff. So he was
a little bit on decline. But I mean, the Straight
Cats were fucking huge.

Speaker 8 (01:14:41):
It wasn't he went straight from Straight Cats the big
band stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
No, No, he went down the road of a roots rocker.
Like Nick mentioned the name of the album The Knife
Feels Like Justice. He was like, I'm trying to think,
who would you compare he was going down the.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
I don't Yeah, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
I can't think of anything offhand, but yeah, there was.
It was a it was a transitional period where he
wasn't full on retro and going into the big band thing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
But was sets her ever uncool like according to any
scene because he had kind of a punky thing going on,
like a rockabilly punk kind of thing. But is there
any scene where it's like, oh, yeah, that guy's lame?

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
No? Is there?

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
The heavy metal scene in the mid eighties was very iconoclastic.

Speaker 8 (01:15:33):
Either you were a metal header, you weren't, right, So yes,
straight cats were super cool. I loved the straight Cats.
I loved Bruce Springsteen at the time. I just didn't
want to see them in my heavy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Metal band, right, I get, you know what I mean?
Like I get?

Speaker 8 (01:15:47):
And this is also post Ride the Lightning and post
you know, all of this stuff. This scene was happening
where it was all heavy and like Anthrax was from
New York and and these guys are from New York
and what are we doing here? Like, give me something
that I can rebel against. I love the song. Now,
how how they incorporate all these elements? It just for
for for their demographic, which was me at the time.

(01:16:10):
It was once again too much right after Leader of
the Pack that was my thing.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
Yeah, absolutely, it's different.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
No, we we we get We're getting your point. I
just I had to come out. What's Clarence Clemens doing
in nineteen eighty five a memory of the planet Other
than that, No, he didn't have shit going on.

Speaker 8 (01:16:34):
Now they would have brought and brought in Bobby Peas
then it would have been all about it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Clarence Clemens Shaw.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
And I Do Love Me a sax solo. So yeah,
I'm good with it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
Me too, once again, been trying to get one in
a Fozzy song for years, but I keep getting out voted.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
I really am well see that that See that's the thing.
You've got checks and balances in your organization. You'd actually
come barging in and forcing a sex solo on five.
So Rich is gonna be like, yeah, that's not happening.
And if I have to, I'm gonna render you unconscious
until you snap out. Of this and we're just gonna

(01:17:10):
move on with a successful formula.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
So yeah, all right, here comes Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
That that wasn't no another phone did? I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
That might have been Brian Setzer, But that's not you
know what I mean? That's not And I just.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
Want to say this too, Like I remember when we
were doing the last record, the Boombox record, we had
a song called Army of One, and there was a
guy called Jason Hook wanted to play a solo with us.
He was in Five Finger Down, and I remember that
it came up to us. It was going through the camp.
We're gonna get Jason noking, Like, why we've got Rich
Ward and Billy Gray. They're both unbelievable guitar players. Absolutely,
there's there's only six.

Speaker 8 (01:18:02):
Or eight guitar solos on the record as it is,
because some of the songs don't have them. Why are
we wasting valuable solo time to somebody that's not even
in our camp and we got two great players?

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
Kind of feel the same.

Speaker 8 (01:18:14):
I feel I feel fingers Oheita could have done a
pretty similar solo. And you know what I'm talking about,
Chris just turned the distortion pedal off flick your your
your your, what is it? Yeah, pickup selector to more
of a natural sound and you're gonna get that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
Yeah, fingers could have handled that. No PSI could.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
Have handled That was a completely unremarkable guitar solo, considering
especially the person who's no fire.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
To So why use it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (01:18:43):
Put on one of your own guys that can do
a better solo.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
And again, back you said a minute ago, he ain't
even in the video, so there's no fucking you're not
getting getting any benefit from handing reading.

Speaker 8 (01:18:58):
The liner notes, which a lot of us did at
the time. But unless you're reading the liner notes, you
don't even know that he's even on.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
This correct, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
And it didn't even sound like him. Yeah, it was
very unenthusiastic compared to his normal phoned in that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Yeah, all right, we don't have too much to.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
God, thank God.

Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
The more I watch this and more again, just speaking
to the massive egos involved, I'm convinced that they thought
this is our thriller. This is going to put us
on the map again. This we're going to write the
ship with this after the debacle of Leader of the Pack,
and and we're gonna ascend to Michael Jackson levels. That's

(01:19:46):
that's how far gone these guys were.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
And they're on the map. But it put him in
the salt mines of Siberia after.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
This, and it's not these guys, it's this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Right, but they're they're they've hitched their wag into him,
for better, for worse, sore right there there, along for
the the descent down the ship pipe that he is
a captain egg.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Here, I'm looking at some of the personnel. I didn't
realize there's a whole I guess that's a six piece
horn section including clearance going on here.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Yeah, you can hear some of the trombones.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
You mean, bad Bob Funk on the tunk.

Speaker 4 (01:20:25):
That was like an Arnold Coolray hect.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Yeah, Hollywood, Paul Litterell, And.

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
I'll just say, reading the track listing of the record,
besides Leader of the Pack, all songs right and lyrics
written by Dean D. Snyder. So he's got everything here.
I don't want any riffs, I don't want any song titles.
I don't want nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Right, show up to the studio. We might use your contribution.
Otherwise we'll get a studio Ringer and and it's either
that or go be a fry cook. Your choice.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
You're right, And that's literally it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
And I'm gonna say that these this horn section, these
have to be all aliases.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
You think these guys are using.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
I think they're all They're all pseudonyms. I'm gonna take it.
I'm just gonna go ahead and take a guess they
did not want their names out there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Alan Smithy or whatever that thing is.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
He doesn't sound like real names.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
You don't think Hollywood Paul literal.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
Literal, Yeah, his real name is Paul figurative.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
I'm just looking at this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
The following people appeared in the official video for Be
Cool to Your School, The comedian Bob can I love
this is the comedian that's all right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Wow, astonishing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Where is Bob? I guess Bob kat is.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
And you know what, hopefully he stays away. I don't
want to hear any more of its nonsense tonight. That's
the mood for it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
I have no idea what this is, very I don't know.
It's it's a credit on this album for typography.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
Does is that a credit?

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
What is itography?

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Back cover wall Mural by the Subterranea Crew. It's credited
to b oh oh eight five, which is like you
would do that on a calculator and turn it upside
down in grade school.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
It says boob.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Yes, that's what it's said. That's who it's credited to.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Credit, So boobes did the backdrop.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Yes, that's what it's said. Well, what what's the back covered?

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
I don't know. But are they talking to this badrop
here in the video?

Speaker 4 (01:22:47):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
I think it's the album?

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
Okay, Well again, this organization completely un what is happening.
We're gonna we're gonna hire boobs to do the typography
and we're gonna make sure they get a credit at
the album. It's like that, it's gotta be nobody stepping in.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
It's it's got to be from the from the liner notes,
right some I guess, in keeping with the with the
school antics.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Yeah, I don't know. So the back cover is like
you know what it's It must.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Be uh, what do you like the back cover? Yeah,
like a graffiti artist type of thing. So that's probably
like a what do you call that? Like a tag
name or something?

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
All right, well great, so then I can go.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Boo graffiti art who cares.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
Yeah, that was hot at the time, nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
I never see boobs written on a train when it
goes by.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
The Boobs is probably no longer.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
With Boobs ain't Boobs ain't doing for free, He's getting
paid for it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
I think Chris J.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Just went to go get an original Boobs lithograph that
he's gonna show us.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Yeah, which Boobs is going to charge him after the fence.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Right, who do I make the checkout to Boobs?

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
That's my name?

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
Yeah, Boobs, that's my name. You missed it, man, We
just we gotta go over this again because he missed
this whole bit. So we're talking about Boobs, the Creek
Fed artist who did the whole back cover.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
And we noticed you were not there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Yeah, we said.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
Then we said that you went to get an original
autograph lithograph of by Boobs.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
You're going to show up that Boobs gave you. And
then years later said I want to check for five
thousand dollars and you said, who do I make the
checkout to Boobs? Well, yeah, that's my name. Pay to
the order of Boobs five thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Okay, Yeah, let's.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Get this over. This is this is gone too far, Alice,
rough shape, it looks it looks like a man contemplating
drinking again at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Yeah, all right, they couldn't just end if they had to.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Transpose it up a full step. Can I just say things?
Nick had is my space a profile back in the day.

Speaker 8 (01:26:03):
How distracting D's filed off teeth are every time it
shows close of him seeing I can't like think about
how stupid that is.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Well, and he makes a point of exaggerating, moving his
mouth to show it as much as possible. I guess
how you're gonna do it, you might as well show
it off.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
I mean, yeah, he's practically Broadway in this, right, I
mean he's he's really he's really playing it up and
making sure that you know and see exactly why he
wants to convey.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
So, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
I can't argue with him as a performer.

Speaker 8 (01:26:35):
I mean, no, listen to this day, the Statt is
still one of the best front men you'll ever see.

Speaker 4 (01:26:40):
He is.

Speaker 8 (01:26:41):
We are not taking away anything from d Snyder as
a singer, as a performer, as a songwriter, just at
this point in time, his choices were terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Yeah, and it's you know, we've gone over the reasons
and how it could have happened, and the results are
the results.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
I just put it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
Zombies are phoning it even.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Yeah, well there's there's zombies.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
I mean I think they're.

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
Because like when they were doing animated during the sacks
and the guitar soulo, it was they were just kind
of standing there. I'm guessing that was the direction they
were given. It would have been cool if they were
a little more enthusiastic, but well, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
So unlike Bobby Rock, they were given direction.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
I'm assuming yes, when Bobby Rock is on the set,
you just let him riff.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Yeah, I haven't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
I haven't had a chance to ask the zombies from
this video, but you'll see them somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Bobby Rock is like the Robin Williams of rock videos
from the eighties, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
You don't tell him what to do.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
He just shuts up.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
He's the only one that could hang with Jonathan Winters exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
I was going to say, just now, for some reason
to finally click that this reminds me of a meat
Loaf song like this would.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Be rocky horror, very rocky horror.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Yeah, Jim Steinman's bullshit. But I think that I think
that I think that all best of I think that
I think that all clicked together with Nick made the
Broadway comment at just everything. All the dots were connected

(01:28:37):
at that point.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
Yeah, very rocky horror, but I guess the band is
very it's appropriate.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
But yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
And they always were since they were in the public eye.
There was always that element, but it's now sonically closer
to it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Yeah, but by this time that people weren't making that connection.
They were gone, I want or Meyer, or I want
under the Blade.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
I don't want Yes, So Chris, next time you're in town,
you want to we could all dress up and hit
the midnight showing of the be Cruel to your School
video at the local local theater.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
Over here.

Speaker 8 (01:29:18):
We can file file put on teeth gimmicks. We can
throw a chicken skin at the at the screen and
he's walking around with the chicken skin.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Terrible man.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
All right, there's Chris.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Alright, there's Chris all with his giant sink.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
He's about to throw off the roof.

Speaker 8 (01:29:46):
Can I make a point that maybe they're saying this
video and song has everything in it, including the kitchen sink.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
I I bet that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
That's why else.

Speaker 8 (01:29:57):
You gotta you gotta a hallway full of on and
it goes to nothing but one zombie with the kitchen sink.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Yeah, of course, you know what the obvious joke is here, right,
he should be carrying a toilet, given the equality of
this material.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Yeah, yep. For a second, on the scene where you
see everybody in the hallway, I'll point at it here
only you guys can see it, but it's in the middle.
I thought this was barf from Spaceballs in there, right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
A John Candy cameo would have been nice.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
That would be nice.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
They couldn't afford the kitchen sink.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
Everything, including the kitchen sink.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
They couldn't afford candy.

Speaker 8 (01:30:34):
Not eighty five candy. No, maybe seventy nine or ninety
one candy maybe, but that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
That's the wagon's yeast candy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

Speaker 6 (01:30:50):
I got a class.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Oh god, so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
I was waiting for the twist at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
There was the twisted.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
So bad, just terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
Yeah, watched the demise.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Yeah, that was the death blow.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
That was a thriller esque twist at the end. He
turns to the camera with the with the zombie eyes
or whatever. That was similar, similar kind of thing here.
The zombies are real, horrible. It wasn't a dream.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Did did we look? I don't think we did look
to see if anybody submitted this just out of curiosity.
I'd like to take a quick peek here.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
Oh that's yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
Could be it's very possible going down to the t's here.
Uh no, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
Not something some stuff from this album, right or one
song from this album? Yeah, okay, not too much demand
from the patrons for Twisted Sister, Yeah, not too much,
but always entertaining.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
I mean it's over the top.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
Yeah it was. Yeah, yeah, kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
You know, we thought we kind of all talked about
stuff we didn't care for about it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
But Twist his sister.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
Is not going to come out and put out a
song or video like YouTube's one where you're just there's
just nothing going on the entire time. There's going to
be something to talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:32:39):
I agree.

Speaker 8 (01:32:40):
I think once again, the biggest mistake about this video
is the timing of it. If it had been first
in the series with a heavy one after or Heavy
then this one, it might have been it might have
done better, but it was just once again just not
understanding what your fan base wants from you. Yeah, trying
to make a new fan base and failing with both. Yes,

(01:33:00):
we've seen it happen in show business so many times.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
That's exactly doubling down on Bobcat Goldway in the videos.
Just devastatingly bad decision making.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
So was this their last video?

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
Like MTV airplay video.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
They had Sister, they had Hot Love, which.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
I was thinking it was the title track, but it
was Hot Love.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
Yeah, that's not the cheap trick song, is it?

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
No, no, it's a song.

Speaker 8 (01:33:30):
Once again, it was supposed to be that was this
could be the end of it. I don't think Hot
Love had a video, but it didn't get Yeah, I
don't know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
I think I think at this point it was done.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
You know, that's kind of crazy. That's I never realized
how short their stardom was. But you know it's still yeah,
a year and a half at the time, but then,
like you said, twenty five years later and now it's uh,
you know, however long it's been forty years, people still
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:34:01):
No, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 8 (01:34:01):
Then they will get together again at some point and
they'll be headlining all the festivals in Europe. They'll be
Docking and fucking Bang your Head Festival and Germany, and
you know, people have a real sauce spot for Twist's sister.
And once again they are a pretty kick ass fucking band.
But much like a lot of the bands I think
we said this last week, from Saxon to Lizzieboord and
to doc In to Fucking Loudness to Rave, and they

(01:34:25):
were heavy, and they went through this phase of like
you got to be a glam pop metal band and
they lose both fan bases and ended up with nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:34:35):
Y and t another perfect example.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
I'm just reading a little bit about Lovers for Suckers.
They had a one month tour and then two days
later De announced his departure from the band. So that
was one of those like I'm leaving, so it's over
kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
We're done, Yeah, we're done.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
Well, I mean Chris brought up Quiet right as a
comparison last week, and I mean, how many years were
they on top?

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
One?

Speaker 8 (01:35:02):
It was it was the same eighty three they started
the ascension, eighty five they were done. And also in
Loving for Suckers. It says that Red Beach played almost
all the guitars on the record.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
Oh really, fingers had it by that point. In fact,
the fact that he was replaced by a by a
sleep walking and Brian Setzer, He's like, I'm not playing
I loves for Suckers.

Speaker 8 (01:35:29):
Well, the thought they wouldn't even give him a try. Guys,
give me a chance at this, like fuck man.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
So now I'm looking at that paragraph you were reading,
and uh, they're talking about bo Hill, the producer. It
said he had Beach, Oheita and French play all the lead,
rhythm and solo guitar parts of a song, then he
would select the best performances.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
So Beach was the preferred lead of the three who
were going to pick.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
I mean, come on, that had to be one of
those like I'm using my guy. If you want to
try to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
Better go ahead, right, No, it's better no chance in
hell of their contributions being used.

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
It not like the first Warrant album too.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
The same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
Well, and he's he's also the legendary producer who apparently
brought somebody in to re record or record instead of
war in d Martini, which inspired Juan Cruchet is classic
Are you Insane? He was all business bo Hill.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
Now we've we've made this comparison in the past, but
I'm going to have to bring it around to something
that was brought up earlier. The Joker too might have
benefited from some looping with one Cruchet doing the laugh
track when when the Joker gets maniacal. I don't know
if Andy has that already.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
I got this one first, Okay, are you insane?

Speaker 3 (01:36:59):
I don't know if you have the insane laughter because
because it's I haven't used.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
It in a while, but I bet I could find it.
I mean I can't. I know.

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
Mark Hamill gets credit for being a great voiceover as
the Joker, great laugh. I don't know that it's better
than this though, And here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
It's another weird guy pant all right? Should we should
we vote?

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
Making quick sweets render kicking the crotch? Who wants to
go first?

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
You know it was growing on me toward the end,
but I'm still gonna have to kick it. All respect
to Twisted Sister. Musically, d Snyder, particularly as a vocalist,

(01:38:03):
admirable stuff that he's been able to pull off in
his career.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
I just don't.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
And he's I mean, he sounds great on this. Alice
Cooper is kind of he's not as prominent in the
mix into my ears, but Alice always sounds great. So
it's I think just the thing that bugged me the most.
As much as I do like to go back and
listen to like the the throwback stuff like fifties kind

(01:38:32):
of sounding rock and roll, it just it's like like
Leader of the Pack kind of had it too, where
just the guitars were not as big as I think
they should have been, like in the eighties, especially hard rock,
heavy metal, that guitars have to be huge, and they're
just not. And that's that's the main thing that bugs
me about it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
No, you're right, Chris el Yeah, kick in the crotch
and like you said, I loved me some sacks, loved
me some boogie woogie piano, all that good stuff. But
for reasons we've already talked about, it just doesn't work here.
And just enough of the Bobcat stuff. Jesus Christ. Watching

(01:39:18):
that guy and listening to him, it's it's stressful. It's
like who's entertained by that? I just it's just never
got that never understood the appeal. I mean, I'll go
on record as being of the two, I definitely preferred
Kennison just because I thought he was funnier and it's

(01:39:38):
less his stick was less grading on the nerves. But yeah,
the the lengthy intro and outro and just the fucking
ego is involved in Basically you knew that they're like,
this is our thriller and it's gonna put us on
the level of Michael Jackson. Just astonishing how off bass

(01:40:03):
they were with that, and.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
How disappointing the Brian Setzer section was. Again, I can't
believe that was the same guy.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
Would he want his name on that? He should have
been like, you know what, just scrap it, keep your money,
I'm leaving. Yeah, I didn't want to be on this anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
So Chris j.

Speaker 8 (01:40:25):
Okay, I'm gonna vote on the song, not the video.
I'm gonna say Sweet Surrender. Hell yeah, once again, it's
a fun song.

Speaker 4 (01:40:39):
I like it. It's it's fun to listen to, it's
got a catchy chorus. It's not.

Speaker 8 (01:40:44):
Single material. After a leader of the pack, what can
you say? He shot his shot, it failed miserably, and
the video just made it worse. Just once again, just
just compiling all this list of this guest list of
of big stars that just don't fit the vibe of
what they should have been doing at the time. Too

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much Bobcat at the beginning zombie effects that were not
good at all.

Speaker 4 (01:41:10):
Concluding the fact.

Speaker 8 (01:41:11):
That Tom SAVIENI was there, But hey, it's you could
put this song on and I would listen to it
and enjoy it, and what more can you ask for
from mid eighties with his sister.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
Yeah, I'm going to vote on the song and the
video and give it a sweet surrender.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:41:31):
Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
First, I'd like to say that Bobcat is pretty much
my internal dialogue twenty four hours a day, so it
makes sense to me. It's soothing and calming to hear
him speak another person. It's a brother type of thing.
I get it. But no, I'm looking at it, you know,
completely out of context. Like you said, it did not

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help their career after the first misstep of leader of
the pack. But if we're looking at it right now
as we are in twenty twenty five, forty years later,
just an isolated thing. It's not an absolute slam dunk.
This is the greatest thing I've ever heard, but I
don't have any problems with it. It's you know, it's
a little toe tapper. They're having a good time. But

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you know, the steaks were big then, but looking back
on it now, it's just kind of fun and I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:42:20):
Hate it's it's fun exactly. Yeah, so speak speaking of fun, guys,
I had a great time. I gotta split. I got
a bunch of stuff I gotta do.

Speaker 8 (01:42:28):
Yeah, absolutely, man, I'm glad we're able to do this,
the one two punch of the demise of Twisted Sister.
But like you said, you know, almost forty years later,
it's just a fun slab of rock and roll.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
Yeah, so uh yeah, thank you fellas again next time,
see you soon. My apologies to the entire McKeon family.

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
See you man. All right, take it easy, all right,
we've got a robber stamp it. Yeah. If you disagree,
we are sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:42:58):
Fucking wait it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:59):
Is I'm laughing at the comments here. I'll pull up
Chris Laser alb kicks shouted out loud but enjoyed this
and we all pay him money. And that's the hand
on the face emoji.

Speaker 6 (01:43:13):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
I will have to agree with the Fielding's comment underneath it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
I gotta disagree with him. Really, I'm a huge Gilbert
got a huge.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
Oh no, it's what he's saying. He said, if you
want an annoying voice comic, you have to go Gilbert
got Free. Bobcat is terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
So he's praising, he's praising. Yeah, I won't abide any
criticism of Gilbert Godfred. It was a fucking genius.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
Well, like I said, if you disagree with us, we
are sorry. So don't get mad at me because you
disagree whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
I get mad at you. You get mad at you
if you have to. But send money, Okay, we don't
care about your emotions. Just send the money.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
So I speaking of Gilbert Godfred just I don't know,
Just as an aside for anybody with kids who might
have heard this before. It's not a YouTube channel that, thankfully,
i've heard very much. But I know they have stuff
in the stores. They're one of those giant YouTube channels
called linky Box. There's one of the guys. He's got

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like purple hair. He puts on a voice kind of
similar to Gilbert Gottfried. And I'm thinking for this generation,
I mean, they don't do anything. It's just like we're
playing a video game and you're watching us and we're talking.
But it's like for this generation, he's I think he's
Gilbert Godfrey.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
Wow. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
That's just a weird theory that I came up with
one time. It was on and I heard it and
I'm like, what's his name? Again, I don't know the
name of the guy, but it's these two guys and
they're called Linky Box. And I'm not trying to give
them an endorsement because I don't like their channel, but
it's one of those things where it's like enormous to
where their merchandise is in the stores.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, one of those. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
But it occurred to me one time when I heard
the guy's voice, I'm like, this is this is like
kids are probably like whoa, this guy's voice is crazy, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
What's he doing?

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
And it's like, yeah, it sounds like Gilbert Godfred almost
a little bit a little toned down, but I.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Guess it's all cycle. Nick, it's all a cycle. He's gone,
And I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
Yeah, I know, no one may agree with me, but
then I'm not not exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
Unused to that. Yeah, me neither. Well, what do you
guys think? Do you want to just cut it off?
We're hour and forty seven in or do you want
to do yardo questions?

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
If we do a lightning round style, I'd be down
with it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
Oh, give me buy me a second, a little bit,
since sanity was was restricted only to this couch in
the voting round, right exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
I'm looking here. I don't know if we're going to
find a lightning round. These are kind of deep thinkers
that I'm coming across so far.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
Yeah, that what we just sat through has killed my
ability to do any deep thinking, so we might have
to until next week.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
I think we just pulled the plug here because I
appreciate these questions and I think it's going to be
a mistake to try to buzz through now if.

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
They're good, If they're actually good questions, we need to
get full attention. And two weeks in a row of
twisted sisters, voyage down the ship pipe is it's got me.
It's pretty much tapped me out and.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
Done at this mort All right, well, let's wrap it up.
We'll be back next week with more pot of thunder.
Thank you, Christ Jericho for joining us again. We'll see you.
Bato potatoes, Potato

Speaker 7 (01:47:00):
The Rise