616 - Bad Company - Shooting Star - Pod of Thunder

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's get they're trying to tell us somebody.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
They've figured out the formula for cap.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
When the clock strikes have past eight, Babe, time to
head for Chris's home.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Will the sun may get to the next round?

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Bone bott of dunder, Let's pot to night, Come on, baby,
Let's pot to night. Give it up for Doc Gibbs
in the Emerald Lave Band, bringing it to each and

(00:48):
every week here on Pot of Thunder, the recognized symbol
of excellence and rock and roll podcasting, brought to you
by Patreon dot com slash Pot of Thunder. I was
looking at that, Oh, there's something for everybody. I was
thinking of all the different people I know, and I
said that you should send a message to everybody that

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you thought of. This is for you put them, this
is for your significant other, cause maybe they don't even
recognize it themselves. It could be it. It's one of
those catch all gifts you know, that would be good
for that person. So there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Something for Can we do gift cards? I don't know
we should look at cards.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Let's find out. We're gonna find out. If not, we're
gonna pitch that. I don't know that they should they
should do the gift card. That would be nice. Anyway.
You know, I was thinking we should all get together.
I'm listening hands on one another's hips and uh, you know, well,

(01:52):
let's let's give Chris a little time that I'm talking about.
Everybody listening, We're all going to get together. Yeah, we're
all going to join the party on patreon dot com
slash pot of thunder hands on hips. We're gonna take
a trip around the boat and we're gonna find out
who I am. Yes, it's the Conga King of Northwest Indiana.

(02:14):
Liz get it, y'all. Yes, it's your buddy, India America's

(02:34):
little brother.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Full blown hunked out this week.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, it's a weird combination. I'm like, half in character,
half not in character. Came right from the beach, as
you would expect.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
So do they do uh kanga on the beach?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I do just this and they follow. I don't know
if they do it when I'm not there.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I would imagine the sand kind of giving way as
you're stepping on it. That could mess with one's rhythm,
that's true.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
But hey, you know, we're not out there to impress anyone.
We're out there to have a good time. That's what
you're gonna do on patreon dot com slash pot of Thunder.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I'm about to get my wallet out.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Get your wallet out. There's something for everybody. Join the party,
would you? And man? After the catastrophic automobile situation I
encountered earlier today, we could use that money. So, hey,
I don't know what to tell you. Go check it
out and help us out. And if you look behind me,
who's that fellow? Let's find out together. Wait a minute,

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has entered the program with his clacking fan. Look at him.
He was doing a fan dance for everybody. Oh, man, got.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
To challenge yourself every week.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, we were just learning that certain news to us,
but a certain type of fan dance no longer allowed
on the Carnival cruises. We were curious what that even meant.
Looked it up, found out and Nick's doing it for
you here. So maybe a show of solidarity to those
who are upset that the fan dance is no longer allowed.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I wonder if you can do it on the Kiss Cruise,
the upcoming Kiss Cruise.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
The landlocked Kiss cruises.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Is a fan dance allowed?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Where them fans at.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
I don't know if it is allowed, I expect many
of the listeners to be in attendance doing this fan dance.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Can I you know what? Get a fan dance will
be the theme song?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
That would be Is Kiss going to play that? Who's
going to play it? Some kind of tribute act featuring
Todd Kerns. I don't know who's going to be there.
We'll find out. Those who are going will have to
be our reporters on the ground.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, I'm hoping it happened. There's I'm sure there are.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Kiss. It's an intel from Jericho and Peg and I
find it very interesting that on the night when Kiss
is playing Electric, the support acts are Sebastian Bach and Quarantine.
That's gonna be an interesting dynamic backstage Jericho and Bach

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of shots at each other in the na. In the
music media, well, George Lopez be there.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Sleeping.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
I didn't even realize Kiss was playing Electric? Are they
playing unmasked though? Right?

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I think that's what they're promising. Is it the full band?

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Now? Singer is still in that listed as I thought,
your buddy, maybe they don't want him there, Well, clearly
they don't, otherwise he would be on there already. I
wonder we still haven't gotten any intel about that.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
I don't know what's going on. Hmmm, maybe when what
is that coming up? Pretty soon?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
I thought it was November.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Oh is it around the same time as it usually is,
like Halloween time?

Speaker 4 (06:07):
I think so. I think it's later in the month,
seems like, but I don't know. I could be wrong.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Well, go listen to a kiss podcast if you want
that interment.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
We don't know anything.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Even when we were a Kiss podcast, we know we
wouldn't have had anything for you.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
No, we'd just be asking and then not an answering
what's going on? One second?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
What is that November fourteenth through the sixteenth?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
So okay, I can't make that one. But hey, yeah,
enjoy yourselves.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Singer is still on that listed anywhere.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Curious what's going on? But maybe they gave him.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
As Joe Elliott said on The Deaf Leppard Behind the Music,
the Spanish Archer the Elbow, that's what that Joe Elliott
said about Pete willis wow. And I always thought that
Joe Elliott, what a cut up.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
That's kind of that.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
One takes a few seconds.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah, I missed that line. That's not a bad line.
That better than this fucking clueless whining about things. In
the classic Albums episode and they're talking about the gods
of war and he's shooting those memes around for a while.
I don't know why you're making these missiles, but they

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can only end in catastrophe or whatever. And he's got
you know, the pink assy leamen glasses on. It's like, dude,
just just be quiet, get off camera. At this point,
you're ruining it for me.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
All right, well you know who you're ruining it for.
He's talking, but hey, you want him? We got him?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
God? Can he it? Can he get out of our way? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:08):
You put your hands together for the breakout star of
the podcast Medium crysales here.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
I'm not on the list either, Me and Eric Singer
and Blackball from that not invited.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Huh nope, not at least for drumming.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Keep checking my spam folders. There's nothing there.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Maybe background vocalist. Maybe you'll contribute something. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
I think certain people are worried that I'm going to
become a lead vocalist at their expense.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
That could be a problem, trying to keep you.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Down, valid concern.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
I would say, Well, I will say Chris does not
lip sync those, so those are one take live performances
when he when he records.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
I respect that. I like that, it's a human feel
to it.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
The only time I do multiple takes is when I
laugh in the middle of one of them.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
We usually keep though. Those are usually my favorites personally.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
So question, it's been a week. We weren't here last week, Nick,
did you have any time to bake a treat? You know?
I did?

Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yes, me, so.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Something maybe that's never been made before.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I can't say in the history of Earth.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Quite possibly, I'm gonna go ahead and say, yeah, okay. Now,
not taking all the credit because collaborating with an AI
search engine is very interesting when it comes to food
to recipes because they will offer up they will offer suggestions,

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and I'll even ask is this from a certain website.
It'll say no, it's just kind of running data on
similar like you ask it an idea, like what if
there was a recipe for a blank and it'll give
something and then you say, all right, did you get
this from somewhere and it'll say, no, this was this
was It was analyzed similar types of recipes and came

(10:16):
up with this. And sometimes it seems to work pretty well.
I think it did. In this case. My middle son
wanted some sort of blueberry pie, so I said, how
about a blueberry chess pie. Has that ever happened?

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Gas pie? Chest pie is in the board game?

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Well it's There are a lot of alleged explanations for
the the etymology behind it. I don't know which one
is correct, but yeah, the word chess, yeah, as in
the board game. Not a reference to the board game apparently,
But there are a lot of theories as to why
it's called the chess pie. It's just kind of a
basic just basic stuff, eggs, sugar, vanilla, stuff like that

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in it. But this one adds a cup of fresh
blueberry pure, so we have a blueberry chest pie. I
think I've probably brought in chest pies in the past.
I think a chocolate one, maybe a peanut butter one.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
I think I remember making.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Usually this got a chocolate it look.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
To Yeah, and my middle son actually was the one
who styled the crust. He threw it in the pan
and did the little ends for it. So yeah, he
gets the credit for that. And I thought it turned
out pretty good. I don't know what you guys think
it might be the first time in human history that
this dish has ever been made, though, but I rather

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enjoyed it when I try it.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
It's got a blueberry packed with blueberry flavor, for sure.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Trying a moment.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Usually that didn't come through, but no, not a big deal.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
It's it's really pretty good with like some cool whip
on top, or whip cream or something like that.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Where's the cool whip?

Speaker 5 (12:05):
Sorry?

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Sorry about that. It would have been soup by this
point and that's fair.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Then fair enough, all right, Well, I'll be eating it
in a moment. Thank you for bringing that, Nick, I'm
excited to try it.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Well, you get one small step.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
For man the way he didn't bring the cool cool whip.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
He did not.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
What's the matter with you?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Man?

Speaker 4 (12:26):
He's slipping And I could direct that at Andy as
well for not pulling up the actual sound immediately. It's fair,
but he's been swishing around on the beach all day.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
And he's literally wearing two hats right now.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Had a catastrophic car situation earlier. So because of that
and the fact that I'm continuing to deal with this
hip issue with it, which hopefully will be turning a
corner soon.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I have.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
My follow up appointment with the surgeon the tomorrow, the
day after we're recording this, not the day after it's released. So,
as I said on the Priest Show live stream, I'm
in the mood for an novisceration tonight, and I think
Andy would be on board after the bullshit he woke.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Up to yea earlier. That sounds good and.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
We're both pissed off. There's no cool whip with the
blueberry chest pive. That's what it's. All The stars are
aligning for an invisceration, and I thought it was Andy's
choice for some reason, which gives you an indication of
how completely out of it I've been since the surgery.

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But and then it's not even Nick's choice, it's my choice.
So you don't have to. You can keep the list
up to see if it's on the list afterwards, but
hand picking one tonight, it has to happen.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
All right before you tell us what it is. I'm curious,
is this something that's been switching around and something recently
make this come to mind? What happened?

Speaker 4 (14:06):
You'll see?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Like I said, when given the circumstances, specifically with you
and me and our personal lives. Okay, I think we
could both use an no visceration, and this one is
at the top of the list of material it deserves it.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
So all right, well, let's turn the microphone over to
Chris Jericoll.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
This one's called Shooting Star off Straight Shooter by the
Bad Bad Company.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Probably on there, isn't it. Somebody had nothing Bad Company.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
It is interesting looking through the list. I was looking
at it earlier today you would something like this. You
would imagine there's at least a few Bad Company songs.
Just some things just don't get submitted. It's very interesting
to look at.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
For one reason or another. Oh, that's all right.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
So this is the original version, not the upcoming cover version.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
No, And I can't even remember who was who's doing this.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
It was a hailstorm.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
I think it was featuring somewhere.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Featuring Paul Rodgers vocalist company someone or other who's on
like half the album.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
For what reason, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Well, sometimes bands coordinate their own tribute albums.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Maybe that's I.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Mean, you know, they are being inducted into the Rock
rock and Roll Hall of Fame this time around.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
So yeah, Well, and Bob Klock's not around anymore to.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Take care of all these tribute He was a master
of that. Oh he did a ton of them.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yeah, it's too bad.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I wonder who's the leader. Now look at this guy.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Now, I will say the the liads share of the
Evisceratics get come from Andy. I'm fine with bad company.
In fact, you could even venture go so far as
to say that I'm a fan. But I understand entirely
why someone like Andy would would despise these guys in

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this song in particular.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
So I'm gonna plead a bit, just a goofball.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Look at it.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
A picture of this picture is not terribly flattering.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Well, he's like obvious to pay, you know, the five
o'clock shadow or whatever. I mean, he's kept himself in
good shape.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Were you given your staying for this guy and for
the band? How did it sit with you when he
was the front man for Queen for a while.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
I don't recognize that.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yeah, that was weird. I mean some people saw it
and they said it was okay, and they enjoyed it.
But I don't know that just that just didn't seem
to be a good fit.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
I don't think I saw anything that they did together.
I think intentionally I just was like, I'm not participating
in this because I'll just dislike it. I knew I
would dislike it. I wasn't gonna watch it.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
And in my opinion, he sounded I mean, it's Paul Rodgers.
It's obviously he's not gonna be like, I'm gonna try
to sound like Freddie Mercury, and he didn't, and I
think it worked in the live setting. I will say though,
that that Cosmos Rocks album that they made, I tried
it when it came out. Maybe I can go back

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to it. Was that they made an album of originals, Yeah,
Paul Rodgers and Queen and it was called The Cosmos Rocks.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Which is which is not the seventies New York soccer franchise.
It's pale on it. Yeah, it's not a not a
title odd concept album.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
I got the feeling it had to do with Brian
May's PhD and Astronomy. But if I went back and
listened to it, maybe I would like it a bit more.
But it completely flatlined for me when I tried listening
to that album. Now about Bad Company, I know they're

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often referred to as a super group.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
But I'll take the soup.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
I have. There's something about Bad Company, Okay, I'm looking
it up because honestly, I don't know all.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
The members.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
I can educate, so I'm looking right now. We've got
two members from Free, Yes, a guy from Matt the Hoople, correct,
and a gentleman from King Crimson.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Definitely qualifies as a supergroup. I'm gonna go ahead and
say Bad Company might be bigger than all of their
other groups, which would be interesting in the case of
a supergroup.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
I think that's absolutely true.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
That usually that. I can't think of another case where
that would be true.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
That's a good point. Yeah, that is interesting in terms
of record sales and all that. Sure, I think if
she's talking about influence, well, King Crimson is an whole
other world, progue world, but you know, not the Hoople.
We'll go back to our our friend Joe Elliott, the

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Spanish what was it, the Spanish or.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
The Spanish archer at the elbow.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Those guys worship at the altar.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Well, I mean, Joe Elliott's got that side project that
is almost exclusively mat the Hooples.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, so in terms of influence, I think you know,
probably even Steve in there. But for record sales, Yeah,
you're right about that. The resulting super group dusted all
the bands that these guys came from originally.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
So what are their hits?

Speaker 3 (20:22):
We got to feel like Making Love rock and roll
Fantasy probably my favorite song by them.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Yeah, you got the self titled song off the first album,
you got Can't Get Enough, you get Ready for Love,
you get rock Steady, Running with the Pack, I mean
list of hits. Andy is unimpressed as no.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
No, I'm just going to say after the first few,
I didn't recognize the rest. Maybe I would, I have I
heard them, but like Running with the Pack, I don't
think I've ever heard.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Yeah, it's kind of kind of mid period. I didn't
get a ton of radio play. But you know, that
was the big one off that album, Burning Sky.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
You know, look at this for their first album, little description,
the definition of no nonsense seventies hard rock. It could
be debated next album was a little bit of nonsense,
where we get Shooting Star.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Dabbling in nonsense.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, we've added nonsense.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
We got talked into nonsense.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Although the no nonsense approach was usually successful, and they
decided to sprinkle in some nonsense anyway.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, so that was seventy four, and then seventy five
is the next one, right right back to back, like
how everybody used to do it then.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
And I want to point out in my mind, at
least the sister song to this. We've already done an episode.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
On Johnny Died on Christmas.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
I'm sorry, it's not that one.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Which one? No, it was.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
So we have Shooting Star and we had Jukebox Hero.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Oh to me.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Always kind of sister songs, yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
O, kind of you know, similar subject matter, but Andy
loves Jukebox Hero. That's the instant interesting dichotomy here.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
There's got to be a winner.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
I guess, Yeah, I guess they go ahead to head.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Well, like I said, I'm just interested as we move
along to hear Andy's shots so and try to try
to get to the root of it. I'm interested to
think right now. So I don't you never really verbalized
it because it's not something you're in a rush to

(22:36):
talk about. I've forced your hand here tonight. But you know,
like I said, I I would consider myself a fan,
but I'm not going to die on that sword. I
can totally understand why somebody would think this is just
cheesy old guy rock, and it is.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Well, and I guess, now that I think of it,
Johnny died on Christmas would be a second sister.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, of course. I'm not saying it's an equal level
as far as success or anything. But it's the same
subject and the same name and the same name. It's Johnny.
It's another chapter in Johnny's book.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Which I'm assuming comes from Johnny be Good. Maybe I
don't know. This is that maybe the idea behind a
song like this. I guess we'll get into it with
our speculations. Yeah, we don't want any facts, No, we
want not.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Well, that's what we're getting here, and it's gonna be
funny for me to try to explain myself to anyone
who disagrees. When I'm dressed like I'm in the Breaking movie,
Well that was a whole generation after that. I look
like Shabba Do. That's one of the guys, isn't it
bog Yeah, so Shabba Do passed away? Then I think Viddy.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, I would like to know before we get into it.
So Chris picked this assuming because he's familiar with Andy's
disdain for this song. I don't even know the nature
of or the history of it, how long it goes,
What has Andy said to Chris in the past. Maybe
it'll come out during the episode, but I'm just I'm.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
A little unclear on that myself. I just at some
point it became established that Andy hated this one, hates
the whole band, the band does. There's nothing from Bad
Company He's gonna like, couldn't and but this one rose
to the top or sank to the bottom, depending on
your perspective, And it just stuck with me, and I'm like,

(24:35):
eventually we will do this on the show. And I
just think that since he's a little wound up by
life's circumstances, maybe a little uh, you know, loopy for
being out in the sun all day might unleash some classics.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Fielding follower says, Johnny strikes Up the Band by Warren
Zevon Johnny's Banned by Purple, A lot of Johnny songs.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Now Thin Lizzy as a song simply called Johnny. It
leads off the Johnny the Fox album. It's about somebody
I'm trying to think of it seems like a I
think it was about a drug dealer or something. But yeah,
interesting they always most so many bands default to the

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Johnny character.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, I can't figure out.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
I'm on Wikipedia, can't figure out Simon Kirk's hairstyle in
this pic the band photo.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
To combo bowl cut and mullet.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
I can't figure it out. I'll show Chris here and Andy.
I don't know if oh that, yeah, what is happening here?

Speaker 4 (25:43):
What's going on there? But in the Free days and
the early Bad Company days, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
I don't know what that is.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
But that's the thing. The other thing that is so
unique about Bad Com There are four British guys, right yep,
they with with laser like precision, zeroed in on the
mindset of white trash America with.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Pretty interesting that they were able to figure that out
so easily instantly.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
I mean, the first time I heard this album was
with the Stoner babysitter brought it over and put it
on the family high five, and I was definitely drawn
to it immediately. But you know, I think at one
point that a pot leaf was their actual logo on
a T shirt. Yeah, and just all of their material

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is just was is like catnip to American white trash
rock fans of the seventies.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
So speaking of influence with the whole pot Leaf thing,
I mean you've got probably Cypress.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Hill and Doctor dre Drawn, Pantera.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
And Pantera on a Bad Company.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
I'm gonna see if I can find an image on that.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
But there's some more Johnny's while we're at it. Uh
who's Johnny by al DeBarge. Black Sabbath had Johnny blade
than Tony Griggs. Chris Camarado said Johnny saw her riding
on a street car named Desire from Hide Your Heart.
There's a band that Nick and I were very into
in the late nineties, well mid nineties, I guess Slapstick

(27:25):
had a song called Johnny basically rewriting this song. There
it is.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
I mean, this is like the origins of Stoner, Stoner.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Being a black light poster of that.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, exactly around a holographic bumper sticker or T shirt that.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Would have been hot in a boogie van. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Absolutely, And these are four British guys, Like, how did
they hit that target? So well, that's one of the
fascinating things.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Maybe in a way they shaped that whole Uh oh,
they absolutely that whole scene.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Yeah, yeah, even more so than Zeppelin and which By
the way, the first Bad Company song was the first
album released on Zeppelin's Swan Song label.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Really yeah, did they stay with that label? I'm just curious,
I think so.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
And then they in the eighties they swapped out singers
and I want to say they threw on Atlantic or.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yeah, n Island in Atlantic where this one's on Swansung.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, yeah, that's cool. But then it's marketed by Ya.
So later I forgot what.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Record we had grown up that was on Swan Song.
Wasn't the Curly Shuffle?

Speaker 1 (28:34):
I don't think.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Was it an early Shabbadoo album we had that I'm
curious to know. Is his Andy Ever looked at a
picture of Shabba Doo and instantly just said the word goofball.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Now and him seriously, I said, okay, pretty good. Hmmm.
Got a message from our friend Rich He said, I
remember hearing this was about Hendrix, which I never got
why they said Johnny and Jimmy, well.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Well maybe they make it a little more mysterious.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Why why is Hey Jude about Julian Lennon. It's not
called Hey Julian just saying yeah, there's no.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
No rhyme or reason with these British folk. Plus they're stoned. Obviously,
nothing has to make sense. No, plus my car that
has gone south as a land Rover. So it's good
to have the Brits and my targets there you go.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Yeah, see it's all lighting up. It's had to happen.
This is therapy for Andy.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Well, there's a lot. Everyone keeps adding Johnny songs here
Johnny comes marching home, But Mitch Miller Johnny was a
good boy by Bob Marley. Layla does I say Johnny?

Speaker 3 (29:46):
And well, Layla is an example of using a different No,
it's not a real person.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, here's the real person, is it?

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Pattie Harrison har Yeah, that's nice. Clapped and helped himself too,
So it's.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
A nice thing to do. Not enough women out there.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
More of these skis in British guys.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, they get too much credit.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Two huge rock stars and they're fighting over the same girl.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, come on, what is this? Yeah, you'd just walk
down the street.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
She must have been like kitchen skills, like crazy, I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
The only British woman in history.

Speaker 6 (30:26):
That's why. That's why she was so desirable and absolute rarity.
There were other rock stars lined up behind those two
guys waiting for it.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Well, our friend Bev makes a delicious cake, so yeah,
so I don't want it.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
But back in the day, then yeah, nobody's literally the
first British woman ever who could cook.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Field and Foller says she was also the subject of wonderful.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
Time as she was. What an ego she must have had,
knowing that these two titans of British rock were duking
it out for.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
It and they're both hit giant hits too.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah, and I believe the Beatles something is about Patty Boyd.
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
My goodness, how did that relationship end up?

Speaker 1 (31:26):
She went with Clapton jump Ship?

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Yeah she did?

Speaker 1 (31:30):
What's shep you know?

Speaker 4 (31:31):
I don't know she's even still a stated I don't know.
They didn't state it. Okay, all right, get at it.
Let's get out and get it, y'all.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Al Right, so this is nineteen seventy five. Huh, all right, Well,
let's take a quick commercial break and we'll be right
back with Shooting Star. I already hate it. I know you.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
It's the acoustic and the electric tone of the electric
I think, yeah, upsetting you too.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I hate it.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Instantly turned his nose up at it.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Literally, it's one of those things where you hear it
and it bothers you.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Is this If you heard that on the radio, it
would be an instant.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, there's no way it would stay on gone in
any circumstance.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
And of like Nickelback's photograph the Nano second I hear that,
look is it? It's off the radio. Not that I've
I haven't listened to terrestrial radio in easily a decade.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
So well, if I walk into a store and I
hear this, I'm gonna find the radio controls and turn
it off because it's that offensive to my ears. But
we're gonna sit here together and try to enjoy this.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Well, we don't want you to We want you to
go at it.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
I'm trying to give it a fair shot, but I
don't think it's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Well, already you said the word hate.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Yeah, I wanted to forget that. You can't go this
is you need this.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
I do need it. But I'm just saying I thought, oh, maybe, uh,
you know, sometimes something you knew in the past comes
back to you and you're like, you know what, maybe
I'm changing my tune on it. No, not happening here.
It didn't happen for this song. So let's continue.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
You're saying that already five seconds.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Nope, no bumbhouse.

Speaker 7 (33:41):
Johnny wantschool Boy when he had his first Beatle song.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
I hate that. I don't know why. I guess maybe
because it's like the dramatic. It's everything about it is
like this dramatic romantic story or whatever, and it just
bugs me. I hated it when I first heard it,
and then I hated it when a friend would play
it in the car all the time. And that's where

(34:06):
the majority of the hatred. Which friend was that flying
Aaron himself?

Speaker 4 (34:11):
But now is he a legit fan?

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah? He liked this stuff, yep, okay, so he would
listen to he liked this.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
He would force you to listen to it.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
But he was the driver, so he got to play
what he wanted. But he would listen to this Steve
Miller band. Certain like a lot of that stuff from
the same probably from his dad's CD catalog of dire Strait. Yeah,
he liked all that stuff that he probably I'm assuming
he got it from his dad. I remember he liked Sultan's.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Of Swing, and I remember thinking, like I don't know
that it's possible for someone to enjoy that song.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Well, that's how I felt about this one. This was
one of them.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
That's odd. I'm not sure I never ever knew that before.
I think we talked about this offline maybe a month
or two ago, but that that that's definitely surprising. V
and Doll this classic rock.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, he liked all that stuff at least originally, like
when we first started our band. And also I got
a message from our friend Rich when we said what
the song was. He said, I remember Aaron doing Shooting
Star on karaoke at Rodney's when I was out with
him and Andy over twenty years ago. Like, yeah, I'm
sure that happened. That sounds right, probably brought the house down,

(35:24):
he probably did. If you're into this song, you could
deliver a pretty rollicking karaoke performance, I would guess. Yeah,
But this is this first line calls into question Rich's
theory because Jimmy Hendrix was not a schoolboy when the
featles came out. He was already probably out of the

(35:47):
Paratroopers division to the Army and playing with it. James
Brown Brothers.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Yeah, maybe it's just a little little artistic.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
License maybe it's it's about.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Or Rich's theory could be complete bullshit, one of the two.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
That does happen sometimes if someone tells you something and
then you realize many years later not true at all.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Of course, Yeah, that's a thing for sure.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
All right, let's keep going, let's find out more about Johnny.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
I'm not doing one thing.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
It was there, it didn't take him long. See, I'm
not going to keep doing this. But even I think
it was like, I hate that. Why well, you had
to fill up the space, you know, like he needed
to do it rhythmically. But it's not say something else.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
It's interesting because it's not. It's not one of those
things where you you flip a sentence around to make
it rhyme, because it didn't even rhyme.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
No, So it's storytelling, Andy, I guess I think it was,
but I'm too stoned to remember. In bad company, and
that's what we do.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Once in a while.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
I'll get the mythology around certain bands, and both lines
of this song so far are about the Beatles, and
I get it they were hugely influential. But sometimes there's
a saturation point and it's like, okay, I've kind of
had it with the mythology, like not going to deny

(37:20):
the greatness of the music, but and the influence of
the the the act.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
You sure will.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
But it just like right now, it's like, did they
have to say love me do just they already name
dropped the Beatles. I mean, are they going to talk
about how Rubber Soul was their turning point sonically?

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Is that going to be the third line? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
You could have said, bought a guitar the next day
and from there it didn't take him long.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, yeah, but he's delivered. You know, it goes back
to what you said where they were able to zone
in on white trash America, where he's delivering this like
he's some southern guy on an old porch whittling something.
Love me do? I think it was.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
Yeah, Oh, you're right, that's to see. That's that's why
they're going to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
And I'm not yeah, all right, let's keep going. I'm
not gonna stop it.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Everyone, in my suggestion, it's out the window with this
next stanza, because that's exactly what they talk about.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, okay, guitar.

Speaker 7 (38:33):
Now he's in a rock and roll outfit and never thinks.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
All right, rock and roll outfit. It is a decidedly
British term. So they sprinkled this is this could be
the beginning of the nonsense that's being sprinkled.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
In guitar Oh yeah, that worked for the Americans.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, people like that. Yeah, the wrong emphasis on the
wrong syllable that we love it here.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah, we love that well and it appeals. That's more
of a Southern, you know, stereotype way of saying. You
know that plucking a guitar.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
You know, the song has a Southern rock like the
couss like like Jerry's cousin from Tom and Jerry, I
need a guitar stringth I like him better than these
guys for sure.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
I mean that was Let's face it, that Froggy went
a courting song. That's that's an earworm of the highest caliber. Mama,

(39:47):
and he's shaking his head. Hey mama, Mama, I'm going away.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Could be anything. Joining the circus though, is what it
basically is. Yeah, I mean, and it could be could
be jail again. It's not their fault, but this is
the exact theme of Johnny died on Christmas. He told
his mom his mom told him, don't go right. I
mean it's Bohemian Rhapsody also that the same thing, but
I don't know. He's telling his mom what happened and

(40:18):
how he's you know, he's going away in a different way.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
In a different way. Yeah, all right, let's keep going.
I'm going to hit the big time.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Go Le'll be a big.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Star some day. Mama came to the dog.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
With a tear drought.

Speaker 7 (40:39):
John is a don't cry, mama smile and waved the bad.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Andy. What do you think of the sound of the
guitar when the distorted guitar comes in? Does it does
it kick it up a notch or does it fail
to kick it up a notch? I guess it kicks
it up, okay, But because it's not it's not huge sounding,
No it's not. So it's still kind of it's teetering

(41:09):
on kicking it up to the next level sonically, but
it's not quite there in my opinion.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
That's just they've already it's you know, it's a gradual build.
You know, it's not like the clumsy, punch you right
in the face production style of today. It's a little
more subtlety there. But it's a classic les Paul Marshall
guitar tone. You know, Mick Ralph's hugely underrated. The Bad

(41:42):
Company's induction is another example of when these fucking elitists
who make the decisions of who goes in and who
doesn't drag their feet and don't induct bands that are deserving.
They wait too long and eventually one of the guys dies,
which bos Barrell bass player died years ago, but Mick

(42:03):
rals just died within the past few months, so he
did not live to see the induction happen.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I think I hate that, don't you know? Over and
over that bugs me too.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
I was assuming sing along chorus for Aeron when you
were in the car.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure, yeah, steering wheel tapping, singing along.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Yeah, I don't know that the don't you know it's
it's kind of uh and it's how often is it repeated?
I'm trying to think, okay, because that's more of like
just kind of said it while warding it. Not really
I wrote this as the chorus.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah, like you have another chorus and you add it
to it.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
You just kind of say it between lines.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Yeah, this is it. They just say, don't you know?
Over and over.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
People must love that.

Speaker 4 (43:17):
They did they do to.

Speaker 7 (43:30):
You all love you just know is you.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
As long as you are?

Speaker 3 (43:40):
What that's an interest?

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Shooting star?

Speaker 3 (43:42):
That's interesting.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
They stop loving you as as soon as the star.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Yes, that's a common tale.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
So people have stopped loving Jimmy Hendry, I think, Well,
I think what I'm saying is he still he is
the shooting star.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
People like you have stopped loving bad Coin started still
referring to the lead singer as a goofball instantly seeing
the picture.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Well, I.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Think that line makes sense. Explain as long as you
are because the shooting star isn't just when the person's
reached the zenith. It's when they've burned out and faded away.
People have loved Hendrix ever since he died, right, So
I think if he would have not died and just
made some bad albums in the seventies and eighties, it

(44:35):
would be different. Yeah, people wouldn't not as many people
would have loved him as long as he had been
around long enough to tarnish his legacy.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
So if you're not a shooting star, they wouldn't love
you as long.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
That's what he's saying, and that's probably true. Well, that
makes perfect sense if you if you burn out when
he when Hendricks burned out.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
I mean, if you leave people wanting more. Unfortunately you
have to die to do it.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
But let's face it, Hendricks would have made a really
bad fusion album at some point.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
He would have. Yeah, and I don't think there's any
doubt so everybody, all the guitar most of them did
in the seventies. He got drawn into that and he
would have but he but he maybe he could have
been like an earth Wind and Fire Ohio players direction,
which would have been awesome. That would have been the thing.

(45:22):
You never know. But I think the the allure of
fusion would have been too much.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
For I mean, he was drawn in.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
I think he probably influenced people who ended up playing fusion.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
Miles Davis, for one, Yeah, I mean which, Yeah, I
think the influence there went both ways. But you know,
Miles Davis is someone who's who it was vocal about
his admiration for Hendrix, So I mean, I'm sure those

(45:54):
two would have worked together in the seventies.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
They're saying Hendrix could have been in the little band
laying outside the building and Screwed should have been with
Paul Schaeffer and.

Speaker 7 (46:08):
M Johnny made a record, went straight up to them.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Okay, so you say record, you're not gonna fool anyone pronunciations,
letting everybody know no one's.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Ever said it that way. The guitar thing will let
you get by. But record no record is yeah, sorry,
it's just making a mockery of Southern people, as we'll
put in some some faked heath where they're all brown
and falling out a straw hat on a mountain dew reference.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
But they stayed they it was either lost on them
or they didn't care. Is a white trash America loved this?

Speaker 1 (46:56):
We'll love it?

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Mmmm Well.

Speaker 7 (47:02):
Suddenly everyone learnt to hear and singing a song watching
the world go back, surprising to go so fast. Johnny
looked around him and said, will I mes a big
time't a leg?

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Bass playing is great? Well, I really really.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Am a big fan of what's being done.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Who's that it was?

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Bos Barrell came from King Crimson, so the prog band.
So he's gonna be, you know, as far as all
the players in this band, he's gonna be the most technical,
but also a fretless bass player.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
So he's no longer with us now.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
He died years ago.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
But he died of embarrassment.

Speaker 4 (47:52):
Uh, I think so cardiac arrests brought out by.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
When it was done.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
He died in the control room when they were playing
it back.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
So I can't stoop this low firm paycheck.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Oh my.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
I enjoy rhythmically because it's he's he's playing something that's
a little more upbeat than what everybody else is doing. Yeah,
it's a it's a I won't say a counter rhythm.
I don't know what you'd call it.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
But it's it.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
If you heard it by itself and you didn't know
what the other instruments were playing, you'd probably imagine it
being something different.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yeah, I would think so, And I think that's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Any appreciation whatsoever for the vocals it was put to
try to put aside the lyrics, just the the quality
done nothing.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
I hate it. I hate the delivery of the vocals.
That's too dramatic. It's too like melancholy. I'm telling this cautionary.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Tale drama and Allen Collie resonate with people.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Yeah, I get that, but I don't know. There's something
about the whole like, Okay, we're celebrating rock and roll,
but also at the same time, we're not I don't
know what pick a lane because most of the songs
are about let's i'll party and go crazy, but oh
this guy did and he died, and we're going to

(49:23):
sing a song about that now and tell you that story.
I don't want to hear that. Is it?

Speaker 3 (49:27):
The timbre of his voice, well, we can kind of
see that. It's very smooth. He doesn't and doesn't want
that and goofball. You gotta find that picture again.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
It's it's the bad company picture and the.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
He's a man delivering the goods on stage, dismissed as
a Google fall.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
I know some people see that and they think absolute legend.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
It's pretty much nine of the rock music fans feel
that way. And then here comes Andy.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
I don't know what to tell you, just sharing my
sharing my truth with you guys.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
And that's all you can do. And I knew it
was going to be this, and that's this is what
I wanted.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
I'm not impressed with the vocal at all.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
It's it's very subdued.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
I'm not saying he's not a good vocalist. I'm just saying, yeah,
it's like he's just dramatically talking the song. You want it?

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Well, I mean you like BO zero al right, not really,
not not really, but you prefer the vocal delivery in
that I would have saw it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
But at the same time, that's a song that did
we even give it a sweet surrender? I don't remember,
but it was I how you did like that song?
I might have changed my mind from then the vocal delivery.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
That one's up to ten yeah, yeah, yeah, and this
one's toned down much further as far as the right.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
But but but for both, in both instances, the intensity
the vocal is appropriate. You don't, you know, not an
histrionic vocal in this it's the laid back playing that's
going on.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I just would want this song to exist. That would
be the best option. But if we never left the garage.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
And let's face it, I don't know what came first.
What's the chicken? What's the egg? This song? Name a
modern country artist who wouldn't play this song? I mean,
it's it's right in that genre.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
The enduring legacy of shooting Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Well, I think, I mean, and I don't I don't
know that they had country music that sounded quite like
this back then, now and for many years now this
is this would be considered i'd say a country song, right.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah. I'm surprised it hasn't been covered. You know,
it might be now that there's the rock and Roll
Hall of Fame is reigniting interest and bad company. It
could have happened, so.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
They're going in.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
They are going or did it already happen. It hasn't
happened though yet, But I mean they've been voted in
the induction ceremony is happening. I think November maybe I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Okay, well, congratulations to them for forgetting a trophy you
don't deserve. Whatever, if that makes you happy, participation trophy.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
Goodness, biddleio teca esque shots.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Ye Nick said he didn't know which was the chicken
or the egg. I know which one is. The Samonilla
shooting star putting an incinerator bird flu, the bird flu
of music. That's that's an analogy for you, don't you know?

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Don't you know? I don't too know?

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Have to w s think stop, don't do no will yo.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Don't to know to lie.

Speaker 7 (53:31):
S thinkstop you a'll love you just don't they don't
know you.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
That he thinks that?

Speaker 5 (54:12):
All right?

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Who was that? It's Mick Ralves and was he He
never got to hear the song before he recorded that solo.
They just they just said, okay, one, two, three, go
make something up.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
It's possible you're accusing h that solo of not being
pre composed.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Yeah, I don't even know if that was in the
same key as the song might have been pulled from
another song. It just sounded bad to me. You know
that company. I didn't like it.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
I love that. Yeah, and the feel might feel like
making love solo. Soaring guitar leads. It's great ship and they.
Eric Clapton always got the he had the nickname slowhand
Nick Ralph should add that nickname. He never wants in
his entire career played a lightning fast shred passage.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
He never needed to never did it.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
No, he never needed to.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Now, Andy very underrated.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
He might find this somewhat interesting, of course, this is Wikipedia,
so take it as you take it for.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
What you will. Well, if it works for me, I'm
taking it as being a trick. I don't think you'll
like it.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Rogers has been cited as a significant influence on various
rock singers. I don't know why it says the year
here that this from this quote, but in nineteen ninety one,
John Mellencamp called Rogers quote the best rock singer ever.
Freddie Mercury in particular liked Rogers in his aggressive style.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Hey maybe on that other you know, other handful of hits. Sure, well,
I'm not saying Paul Rodgers couldn't do Mellencamp being everything
southern rock guy, which obviously is going to have ties
to country music in some way.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Yeah, I don't know the Paul Rodgers delivery. It's occurring
to me now more than ever. It's very much a
country music and perhaps before it's time, but very much
a country music delivery. If you like this song in particular,

(56:22):
or feel like making love even you like country music
in a way.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
Sure music is the new classic slash arena.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
But it's just it's just interesting, interesting to me listening
to this song and you know, focusing on it like this,
it's like this, this is this is such a country song.
And that might not be a revelation to a lot
of people, but I never really thought of it that way.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
Certainly more of a country song than fucking fast car
and some country guy covers that and it's a fucking
mash hit. So you know, let's see what happens in
the coming weeks or months now that with the induction
there's a new focus on bad company. It's you know,

(57:13):
country artists should step up and cover this one.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Well, I'm thinking just a just a guess here, if
you've got an album coming out and Lizzie Hale singing it,
she'll probably be probably be the one at the induction
ceremony singing it.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Yeah, no, that's true.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
But yeah, I mean, just take your pick any modern
country singer.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
This this is for him. That's true.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
Even her female can deliver this song.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Yeah, sure, all right, let's keep going to.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Love you.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Just Johnny died one night, there you go, died one night.
You couldn't build to that. Yeah, it kind of did
come out of I guess that's what happens in real life.

(58:24):
But Johnny died one night.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Forgive me for not really having paid attention to the
lyrics in the very recent past. Here did this Was
there any sort of like, uh, he was having trouble, nothing,
there was nothing that came up before this.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Then it was like, oh, it was too much for
no indication.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
He got he got, he got hooked on something, nothing,
He just died one Night's interesting.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Yeah, I think he's going to explain it here when
I see the next lyric coming up. So did.

Speaker 7 (59:00):
The whiskey and Stephen tablets as him.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Johnny Love passed.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
The malac of wom.

Speaker 7 (59:11):
If you listen to the wind you can steal your play.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Well, I mean that's very Hendrix though.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
Well in both those even though Andy just blurted out
terrible lyrics, those two stanzas right there are probably the
probably the pinnacle lyrically of this song in terms of
just creating that mood and generating some sympathy for this

(59:38):
title character.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
I'm assuming that if you listen to the wind, you
can still hear him play. As a reference to the wind,
wind cries mirror.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
If you listen to the wind, you can't hear anybody play.
That's not a thing. I don't know why he said.
That's absolutely meteorologically speaking. Yeah, there's anything he's saying here.
He's talking nonsense.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Well here's again the nonsense is coming into the picture.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Yeah, I mean, what's he talking about in that picture?

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
It looks like he's in like a play about the
New Testament.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I was gonna say, it's like Jesus Christ. He's like
he's Judas said a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
No, I'm just pointing out that I'm asking Andy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
That's no, it's not necessarily a problem. But he does
look like he would be Judas. I'm thinking, yeah, he
does have that vibe to him to his look.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Here, Judas wore a two pay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Yeah painted on his beard, sprinkled it on, more likely
some big inn on his beard. He just got like
how Diddy had all the baby oil. Paul Rodgers has
boxes of gray big in.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
On tour with him.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Yeah, when when he dies in his bed, they'll be
saying about it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Well, he probably doesn't die in his bed if he
doesn't feel like walking.

Speaker 4 (01:01:04):
To the bottle whiskey box. So big, and it's just
the best lyrics of the song. And no sooner did
the music stop or you hit the space? Far As
like terrible, it's like poetic. But if I just I

(01:01:28):
don't like poetic, you don't. The vast majority of people
on the planet do. That's why these guys are so successful.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Sure, but he's not saying that doesn't mean anything. It's
like that thing where someone writes a poem and they
act like it's good because it's a poem, a melodrama.
I just think it's there's not enough.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Clearly, you haven't listened to the wind enough in your life.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
I've never heard Johnny playing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
Instant instantly dismissing this as a poppy cock.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
The wid you can still hear him play. That's terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Charles Barkley joining us this week.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
All right, let's keep going. We still have a lot,
a long way to go, long way to go. How
many are you going to say? Don't you know why?

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
There's a lot more don't you know? It's coming our way?
And some sing along arena rock tactics coming away.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Nick added one blueberry for every don't you know? To
this pie?

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
It still didn't change the color of it or not
go brown.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
If you listen to the pie, you can still hear
him play. You smell the pie. That makes just as
much sense for anything else. If you listen to the wind,
you can smell the pie. Okay, I mean sure.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
Bottle of whiskey, piece of chest pie, Bye his head.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
That's what did it happened?

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Sugar overdose?

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
Poor Johnny all right, don't you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Doom? Don't taste?

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Is this?

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
Is?

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
He?

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Is he asking, well, we'll just say Jimmy Hendrix with
the don't you know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Like that that's where you're gonna end up?

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Is that what he's saying?

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Or is there or there?

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
You know, up until up until he died, people probably
just thought he was going to live forever and then
suddenly his life was snuffed out. And so don't you
know that he was or that you are or he
is that this is going to end soon?

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
Yeah, perhaps didn't see it coming. Wasn't a Mitch a
Mitch Hedberg situation where he basically was aware that it
was going to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
Right now, And you could apply that to Randy Rhodes
as well. I mean, he didn't die, it wasn't a
self inflicted you know, drugs weren't involved, but it was
a senseless uh death, that is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
True, didn't have to happen. But why is he saying
don't you know though? He's taking a like a superior
approach to the storytelling, like he knew or we maybe
it's just in hindsight we all know now like you
should have known that. Well that's yeah, they were put
on this planet to have an incredible impact and a

(01:05:12):
short amount of time and be gone kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
It's possible, Like you you observed, the entire middle portion
of this guy's story has been eliminated. So we don't
know like how fast or slow the descent was into
drugs or whatever. But you know, I think it's more
of a thing where you have your idols like Rhodes Hendrix, Morrison,

(01:05:36):
go down the list of everybody, we all know who
they are. You just think they're going to go on
forever being awesome, you know, for forever, and and then
you know, not all of them live to be seventy
six or our old Ozzie was they get they go

(01:05:58):
down early, that's what. But that's what they're talking about here.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
Who was the as of right now, the last example
of somebody like this is it Amy Winehouse. There's probably
been somebody since then someone with as much impact.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
Though that kind of Chester Bennington maybe not. Perhaps is
that more recent than Winehouse?

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Yeah? I think it was more recent, pretty sure. Also
he was probably I don't know, he's still very young,
but he was a little bit older, right, wasn't he?

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Like it mid thirty?

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
He was still in his thirty Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Possibly, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
There's probably somebody was shocking. Oh yeah, for sure. I
was gonna say there's probably somebody in music genres that
we have no idea, like current hip hop or like
ed M or something that people love and we don't
know anything about it. Yeah, that's probably happened, like because
you know those people are actually young, yeah, and they're

(01:06:58):
still dying the musician.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
I guess I'm thinking like in like the hard rock
Yeah I don't I think which Amy Whitehouse was not
in hard rock necessarily more R and D and whatever,
But yeah, I don't know's that's the one I'm thinking
is where the whole world kind of you know, pitied this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Huge star.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
And it got a ton of attention. Yeah, this person
who just kind of deteriorated in front of everybody quickly.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
Yeah, I can't think of it. So, but I mentioned Chester,
Bennings and Lincoln Park is like that was kind of
music that came along, And I was like, Okay, this
is clearly music meant for somebody younger than me, because
I can't relate to these lyrics at all. Yeah, but
I can certainly appreciate the immense talent that that guy

(01:07:54):
had just strictly as a vocalist. I mean, the power
that came out of him amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
All right, well we have to keep going here. Unfortunately
he's just gonna say, don't you know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
Over over, unless somebody really needs to interject.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
But I just I just don't want to get booted
off of YouTube for this one. Yeah, shame, that would
be a shame for this one. I got to break
it up a little, don't you know. I would have
liked this song maybe a little bit more, pinch more.
I'm gonna rewrite it for bad Company because that's what
they need right now, the guy who looks like Shabba

(01:08:34):
due to rewrite it fifty years later. But if it
was just like, you know, some way that fit the
arrangement of syllables where he just said, like Johnny, you
are a shooting star, whatever, how you would fit that in,
that would have been fine. But the don't you know
thing bothers me and always has.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
I don't like it valid.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
This is where it gets over the top, right the area.
This is where yes, they should have they should have
kicked in with the no no now bit right here
this is this is this is where they took it
too far.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
I should.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
Probably did on the single version, if there was one,
But they should have just eliminated this section, gone straight
into the arena rock wait, wave your lighters in the air.
This song would sing along bit.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Regardless of how much you like this song, it doesn't
need to be six minutes in nineteen seconds.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
No, you're right, I won't disagree with you on that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Yeah. I kind of like those woo's in there. That

(01:11:03):
might be that might be the only part of the song.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
I like, Okay, that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
I'm enjoying what what the band is doing. I mean,
the na nas are fine, but I the drums sound great.
I still love what the bass player is playing. I
like the fact that it's been in endless solo here for.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
This entire outro so far. Guitar player band.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
No just I mean Paul Rogers occasionally strapped a guitar ron,
but essentially a one guitar band.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
Mm hmmm, whoa, whoa written by Paul Rod Look at
that solo writing credit for this clown, Goofball.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
I believes the title it's the name of this publishing company,
Goofball Music asscap b M. I, all right, well we
have to vote to AA.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
He wears on his head, no wig brand. It's not
nice at all. I can't believe you said that. I
can't believe it either. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
In fact, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Time to vote sweet Surrender or kick in the crotch.
I'm gonna go first. I'm gonna give it a kick
in the well. No drama here, not going to the
next round. I'm trying to think nobody, but I was
trying to think of new ways to articulate my feelings

(01:13:04):
because you know, sometimes with pieces of art, your feelings
are would you say, like more of like a visceral feeling,
and that sometimes it's hard to put into words. You know,
it's just you know that you don't like it, and
you never had to explain it really to anybody. So
as I'm listening, I'm trying to think of what it
is and maybe come up with something. And one of

(01:13:26):
the things is it's like when you know there are
many you can have a dramatic song about some tragic
thing and it could impact you or not impact as
a listener, right, it could work or not work for you.
This is one that doesn't work, and because of that
just for me. I'm saying, this is one that doesn't
work for me. And because of that, I've almost insulted

(01:13:46):
that they're trying to take me on that journey to
feel sad when I find it to be a ham
handed attempt of this tragic story. So it's insulting and
I'm laughing at them, and I'm laughing at Johnny in
the ground. Wow, who wants to go next? Nobody? I'll

(01:14:08):
go next.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
I'll give it a sweet strong.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
I we don't have that button?

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Oh sorry, hell yeah, a song. I definitely remember hearing
a lot I had. I remember going on a Man
was it? First school band in grade school, and we
had our cassette Walkman's and uh, one of the one

(01:14:35):
of the kids in my class would not have expected
him to have bad Company like the best of Bad Company,
but he had it. And we treated tapes, and I
remember really liking rock and roll Fantasy okay, And I
don't remember how many songs I listened to it off
of it, but clearly there are a lot of huge,

(01:14:56):
enormous hits on it. But that's that's the one that
stuck with me.

Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
This one.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
I won't deny the fact that man, it's effective as
far as commercial appeal.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Won't deny that at all.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
I don't know that it gets credit for it, but
in my opinion it should for the whole like more
modern country sound connection what I mean, I feel like
making love for that matter, Would I think, yeah, I
think so. I think I think maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Paul Rodgers' vocal delivery is.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
The key component which is making me draw that comparison.
Decades ahead of his time, I would say so, And
I mean enormously popular genre of music in its current
state for a couple of decades now, right, So I

(01:15:54):
can't argue that not a song that I just that
I would probably ever look up and listen to. I've
heard it many times. Not a huge fan, but can't
deny that it's it's a it did what I am
assuming it fulfilled its mission. It knew Paul Rodgers knew
the assignment, I guess is what the kids would say,

(01:16:16):
understood the assignment. Maybe just the phrase. So can't deny
any of that great playing toward the end. It really
it really brought it up to like it's a it's
a big seventies arena rock band thing to do you
know you you you start out and you you have
it swell and escalate and then you jam.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Out at the end. And that's what was going on.
I thought the band sounded great. Yeah, so yep, Chris.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Sweet Surrender for Me? Hell yeah, not a song I'll
seek out because I've just again heard it all I
need to hear it in classic rock radio. Don't really
need to add it to my queue on Spotify or

(01:17:08):
anything or feel like making love for that matter. But
there are definitely some other Bad Company songs on the list,
and again, this one just you know, great storytelling in
my opinion, and it's just the kind of thing that
you storytelling songs. It's really hard to mess those up.

(01:17:34):
You have to be like the worst lyricist on the
planet to mess up a storytelling song like that. And
it just like I said before we got into it.
The thing that really I find fascinating about Bad Company
and have for decades, is how those four British guys

(01:17:57):
could tap into the mind set in the pleasure centers
of white trash America as totally on target as they
did is amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
So are you saying that whoever wrote the lyrics for
Johnny died on Christmas is the worst lyricist.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
Of all time, uh be in the running.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
I think because they missed the mark, because an almost
impossible mark to miss that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
It's like making a bad pizza. They did it right,
like an inedible pizza.

Speaker 7 (01:18:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
As you guys were talking, I thought of another point
when you're talking about how this, like this type of
song really appeals to a lot of people, and I
was thinking, maybe it has something to do with not
just appreciating you know, like entertainers who came and went,
but maybe people from your personal life who went early,

(01:18:54):
and you could kind of be like, oh, yeah, you
know that that guy was a shooting star too.

Speaker 4 (01:18:59):
You know, you could make that connection. You So maybe
that makes analogy if you will.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Yeah, maybe that makes people feel some kind of sentimental attachment.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
A metaphorical tale, but.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Really it's just that they made a bad decision, probably
which is not as good of a lyric as you
are a shooting star if it's someone that you know
wasn't the star, right, yes, but you know what I'm saying,
someone who had an impact on you and left too soon, right.
But yeah, so maybe that's.

Speaker 5 (01:19:31):
Part of it too well.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
And plus there's always I mean I don't know how
long how far this goes back, I'm assuming very far.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
But this type of individual, someone.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Who went out young and hugely popular and went out young,
then it's it's almost like a martyrdom where that that
person is going to always be revered and.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
There will always be twenty whatever, yeah, seven or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
They're gonna be revered more than they probably would have
if they had if they had lived longer. For sure,
I mean the still could be revered. But it's the
what is it, live, live fast, die young, stay pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
Kind of a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
Leave a good look the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's a thing that the general
public is always fascinated by.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
Well look at Ozzie though. I mean like when when
Black Sabbath Black Sabbath was bottoming out, probably a lot
of people were thinking, like, Okay, if he croaks now,
his legacy will be into act. He carried on for
forty more years and got even more pop.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
He's he's I would say, a pretty rare case.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
Oh absolutely, But I mean that just speaks to you know,
how impressive. You know, a lot of people with the
reality TV series dismissed him as a goof ball and
a clown and on a different.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Level, essentially was portrayed, and he kind of was.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
But also from a musical standpoint, if anything, he got
even more popular, always surrounded himself with top tier musicians.
Never musically, never really never really embarrassed himself.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
No ever, No, that's true. So you never know, you
never know it's happened.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
But well, I mean, I've heard people say that about
John F.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Kennedy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
If he hadn't died when he did, his legacy would
not be what it is. That's, of course speculation, but
I've heard people say that, you know about him.

Speaker 4 (01:21:43):
No, I've heard that too him. Yeah, it's easy to say,
but yeah, the opposite could happen. Sure on to bereach
even greater.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
Well, one thing we know for sure is that Jimmy
Hendrix would have made a bad fusion album.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
That's all but a certainty. I can't remember the exact
quote now. I think this was a Doug Stanhope joke
from many years ago that I listened to or saw
on something. So I'm going to totally paraphrase it and
ruin it. But I think of this whenever someone brings
that up, where he said something along those lines that
like if these people didn't die when they did eventually,
they would have ruined their legacies. And he said something

(01:22:20):
about how Jimmy Hendricks would have been performing at the
super Bowl with Backstreet Boys or something or whatever, like
I forgot what the reference was, but like, you know,
it would have been like and ladies and gentlemen, Jimmy Hendrix,
you know, and he comes out in the thousand would
have been in it. A definite possibility would have happened. Absolutely,
So it's interesting to speculate. You never know, but it

(01:22:42):
could have happened. But ladies and gentlemen, if you disagree
with us, we're so sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
From one pall to the other, deal with it, rogers.
We didn't get to hear from the other, Paul, which
one going to the other round.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
There's no need for that today. Well, Nick, do you
think we should take a break for Uh? Yeah, I
think that people want it to maybe get some bread.
I think yes, let's get it, y'all. We'll be right
back after these words. Y'alls of questions. Yes, chief not

(01:23:45):
welcome yardo questions. You're gonna love it. Here for my
very favorite places to be here on the ship. Is
the whole thing going to be a ship?

Speaker 7 (01:24:00):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Maybe it is what a pot of thunder people are
doing the congo line around. You can say it is
Kiss broke down that wall. Yea of actually having to
be on it years.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
Ago in Hammond, Indiana. Yep, they were able to have
gambling just as long as the ship was tethered, right, Yeah,
I had to be on water, so that was a
work around.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Kiss has now made it possible to be on a
cruise with no ship in any reserve in a desert.
So once again, so the Kiss machine has innovated.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Wow, just when you thought they were done. This might
be the greatest thing they've ever done. It could be
where is it at? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
One of those I don't know anything, one of those places,
the Sands Hotel, I don't go.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
All right, well, Virgin.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
Hotels, Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Okay, all right, Well, this week's Yardo Questions comes to
us from Mike Corey. Oh, Mike, that's a new name.
That's a new name. Mike says, I spent weeks thinking

(01:25:25):
of and perfecting three high quality questions, only to realize
that they had all been asked before by other listeners.
So here are three lame ones I thought up quick
and enjoy.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
Oh this could be this could be life changing. All right, Mike,
this could change the game.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
Question one. Some friends and I were discussing what we
consider to be perfect albums while having a few beers
the other night. These are albums that have absolutely no
filler and every song is or could be released as
a single. Interestingly, none of our albums were on another list.
Mike's list was Boston Debut Album, Van Halen Debut Album,

(01:26:11):
and ac DC's Back in Black. Do you have any
albums that you would consider to be perfect? Yeah? I do,
I certainly do.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
I mean Purple and Tiny music by Stone Temple Pilots, but.

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
Not the not Core.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
I think CORER would work, I guess. So he mentioned
Van Halen. Yeah, I guess was Eruption a single? I
guess if we say instrumental stuff like that, because all
the STP albums have some sort of instrumental song like that.

(01:26:58):
But yeah, you could put Core on the list. I'd
say number four is pretty close. But let's see something
non as TP that's perfect. That's gonna be tough.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
Hey, if that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
That's what it is now.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
I mean, let's see that's perfect a little A Blizzard
of Oz.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
Blizzard of Oz and Diary of a Madman both work
under those criteria. I would dare say No More Tears
works under that criteria. Well, every song on that could
be a single. A lot of them were. Yeah, I
mean almost all of them. Even what was it, mister
tinker Man. That's right, funky winkerbing. God bless you, Bob

(01:27:49):
Caruse so he he said. I don't know if it
was auto correct, but he texted Andy and I or
messaged us and it was mister Tinkerman and he said
funky winkerbing, and I on my end I lost it,
started laughing out loud. But yeah, those are a few.
I don't know if I'll think of any others. I'll
hand it over to Chris.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
Yeah, I think you know, we've listed off a bunch
of them already. I think the ones that I could
think of it might be a little against the grain
or under the radar, but also in keeping with the
you know, continuing tribute to Ozzie vibes, I'm gonna say

(01:28:35):
all three bad Lands albums a bad cut on any
of them all three. The first two are out of
print because of the lawsuit surrounding Ray Gillen's behavior.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
But Dusk is on.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
The streaming services great stuff. And I also say that
probably the three three of the grain greatest album openers
are all bad Lands songs, high Wire, The Last Time
and Healer Awesome. So I mean their obvious choices like

(01:29:14):
the ones already mentioned. But to go a little against
the grain, I'm gonna say those three all right.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
Question two? Is there a style of rock music that
you disdain? For example, I can't stand grunge. Whenever a
traditional grunge artist Pearl Jam, Nirvana, etc. Comes on the radio,
I immediately have to turn the station for the sake
of discussion. Only include rock music, not others like country, rap,

(01:29:42):
hip hop, others, etc. What have you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
To try to drive my point home a little more,
it's pretty blurry these days what's rock and what's rap
and what's country in some instances.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
But to answer the question.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
The post grunge stuff, there is literally one song that
I like from that entire genre.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
Really well, I'll say too.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
I'm not going to say what the second one is
because I'm hoping it will be an episode in these
not too somewhat distant but not too distant future, but
from that whole genre of music. Yeah, maybe like two
songs that I've ever heard where I'm like, Okay, I
kind of like this. There's just something about the production.
There's something about the overproduction of that. What's I like

(01:30:43):
the song Hero off of the First Spider Man soundtrack, which.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
Had Josie Scott and Chad Crow.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Yes, yes, I'll go. I like that song.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
I think that's a good, good chorus and it breaks
away from the pack in that genre. And I know
that genre has been going strong for decades, way too long.

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
Well, it's become what it's become what is my choice,
and it's what's known as active rock, what they call,
like you know, butt rock nowadays, I think is a
term that incorporates all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
But I forgot about butt rock from a couple of
months ago or whatever that was.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
But let me tell you why I hate active rock
is because one, any genre that includes five finger death
punch automatically sucks in historic fashion to me. And the
other thing is, and Nick talks about production, every new

(01:31:55):
hard rock song has that those computerized drums, the drums
sound the same on every fucking release I've heard from
that genre. It's just there's no creativity in the production.
There's no personality from the drummers.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
You know, not to just constantly keep going back to Ozzie,
but just from like a lot of us listening to
that stuff again for the first time in a while
after what happened, you know, Ozzie passing and that whole
big Last concert everything. I was listening to Volume four
and I'm like, man, this sounds like a band. Oh

(01:32:32):
you know what I mean. Like the drums sound like
a great set of drums.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
Well in Volume four, I've always said it is is
Bill Ward's finestyle or Yeah, drumming on that album it's
off the chart, yep. But you can hear what the
drum kit sounds like. You can hear the personality of
the drummer style that is all out the window.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
It's gone. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
With modern hard rock, it's not that far off from
modern pop music, where it's every possible sound is layered
on there.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
Yeah, like I think of.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
When I'm thinking of like down tuned hard rock, which
for a while bothered me because everything you'd even have,
like these bands who've been popular in the eighties, coming
out with newer stuff in the last twenty years, and
it's all it all sounds down tuned. The foundation of

(01:33:34):
it is all down tuned open we'll call it E.
But whatever, it's down tuned to pal muting.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
That's what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
And it bothered me for a while because I would think, like, man,
throw on a Megadeth album and you're gonna get I mean,
I'm assuming Megadeth is standard E tuning because to me,
Megadeth never really maybe I don't know some of their
recent stuff if they ever got into that, but like

(01:34:02):
an eighties Mega Death album, like I would long for
that type of guitar sound, that that type of playing,
that sort of configuration of a of a hard rock,
heavy metal guitar over the down tune stuff, and that
was that was just everywhere. Once once, like frankly, once

(01:34:25):
Korn came in and that seemed to have an influence.
I'm assuming well, and I go back to Silver Chair
of Frog stuff, same kind of thing. But but man,
once in a while, you just want to hear like
like a Mega Death album eighties nineties at Megadeath and
it's like it's just less again. Nonsense is the word

(01:34:46):
that I that comes to mind, Like I just.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
It was everywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:34:52):
Yeah, it still is.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
I guess it still is, but I think some bands
are kind of pulling away from it now.

Speaker 4 (01:34:59):
Final you should do. Tony Griggs is chiming in here
on the chat. You should connect with him about some recommendations, because,
as he talks about, there is a thing called a
new wave of traditional heavy metal and bands not tuning
down to Drop Sea Sharp for whatever the fuck they.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
Oh yeah, and Tony and I have messaged many times. Yeah,
and there's a lot of great stuff by bands that
nobody will ever hurt, nobody will ever hear of. And
it's really cool that there's.

Speaker 1 (01:35:30):
A revival of that kind of thing. Yeah, all right.
Question three. Of the four major professional sports leagues in
North America, NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL, which one could
you live without? Mine would be the NBA. I can't

(01:35:51):
watch more than ten seconds of a pro basketball game.
I told you these were lay mass questions. Oh well,
I love the show, keep up the good work. I
think these were very good questions.

Speaker 7 (01:36:01):
Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
You know what, years ago, well not even years ago,
maybe months ago, I would have said NBA. But Andy's
love of Luka Doncicz and my uh my preference for
Nikola Jokic have kind of revitalized that. I would have

(01:36:29):
said NBA. But right now, if you had to ask me, man,
it's it's a shock to me to even say this,
but I would say NHL at this point.

Speaker 4 (01:36:43):
Yeah, I just I have not.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
Hockey was my favorite sport years ago, and right now
I can't tell you the last time I watched it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
Or really cared to look into it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
I have no real reason why, but.

Speaker 4 (01:36:59):
You know, I'm have to have the same answer, and
I'm the same thing. Hockey was my number one back
in the day. But the reason, the reason why I
would say that now is because of all the Detroit teams,
the Red Wings are the worst and they don't seem
to be poised to turn that corner anytime soon. Tigers

(01:37:20):
are back, the Pistons are coming back, and and the
Lions are always gonna until they win the Super Bowl.
I will be obsessed with seeing them win that in
my lifetime.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
So well, I hope they make it happen soon.

Speaker 4 (01:37:39):
But typically, I mean I would I would have said,
you know, the NBA is the league that I'm least
have traditionally been the least engaged with. Like my dad
never took us to Pistons games, and he only he
actually only took us to Lions preseason games. Baseball and

(01:38:00):
hockey took us all the time. But my favorite teams
of any sport of all time are those bad boy Pistons.
Just I mean those guys that that that whole unit,
just all the characters and the storylines were just fucking great.
So it's like pro basketball, I would have to say,

(01:38:22):
in general is my least favorite of the four sports.
But my favorite teams of all time are the Pistons
from the eighty nine to ninety And I.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
Would have to say, like man like I I like
just about everybody who's from this area and my age
and older eighty five bears unbelievable. I can't tell you
the last time I sat down and really cared about
an NFL game.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
No, I just I didn't watch any of last year.

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
No, I just don't care. I am, I haven't care
where I know any players really, and hockey forget it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I watched Veenick. That's about it.
Almost no Vechkin. All these foreigners playing games. Yeah, no, Vegkin,
Sorry it's late. No, I'm with you, though, Like I
used to love it even I don't know, ten fifteen
years ago. It is my favorite sport still and then
now I just haven't watched for so long. I put

(01:39:27):
it on once in a while, I'm like, man, I
don't know who's doing what. Yeah, I've got no feel
for what I'm you know, like who I should be
excited about. I'm just totally lost on.

Speaker 4 (01:39:36):
Like NBA and NHL. For me, I have zero use
whatsoever for any of the regular season. Yeah, once the
playoffs start to become, I become. I'm actually more interested
in NBA playoffs these days than NHL. It's I'd never
if you if you asked me this when I was

(01:39:57):
a kid, I would have said this would never have then.
But I totally agree with Nick. NHL I could live without.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
Man and I will be. I will be watching your
beloved Tigers.

Speaker 4 (01:40:10):
Yeah, we have a good time. It's a wonderful ballpark
and cool part of the city.

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
All right. Well, thank you Mike for your yard o questions. Hey, Mike,
if you want to submit a yard o questions, go
to Pot of Thunder dot com, click that little widget
and send three questions our way. Very much appreciated, and
we will be back next week with more pot of thunder.

Speaker 5 (01:40:44):
A good night, I'm only getting.

Speaker 4 (01:40:46):
A potatoes stop.

Speaker 7 (01:40:52):
Potatoes, Potatoes, The rise

Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
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