620 - Vanilla Ice - The Horny Song

620 - Vanilla Ice - The Horny Song: Chris, Nick, and Andy break down "The Horny Song" from the 1998 album Hard to Swallow by Vanilla Ice. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Yep.

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Speaker 5 (01:32):
You know me?

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Who am I? Who is it?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I think, like I said last week, what we're gonna do.
We're gonna put our hands on each other's shoulders. We're
gonna join the party. We're gonna bend those knees. We're
gonna bop around the pool. It is the Conga King
of Northwest Indiana.

Speaker 6 (01:50):
Liz, get it, y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yes, it's your buddy, Andy, America's little brother as always,
joined by this fellow. I don't know what he's gone
up asleep today, but let me get this camera lined
up correctly. You see him back there, those of you
who are watching the video, I have no idea what's
gonna happen here, but we're going to find out as
a group just what in the hell is going on
with this boy back here.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Let's find out is he ready? We're gonna find out
shortly he's not ready, but.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
He's up to something. And you know, the more preparation
that goes into it, the more anticipation builds.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
We're gonna get a orgasmic release.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Here when we find out what this this week's dance
is going to be, big buildout. I love that Cape,
the NNP Cape Ladies and Gentlemen. He's ready to do
what I think.

Speaker 7 (02:52):
Okay, here we go, Nick Nick Pollock has entered the program.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Wow, I don't even know what you call that. You
were a marionette? Maybe I guess, and I have no
idea what my face looks like? But what were what
were you? What do you call those items? I don't
even know cardboard with strings on them. Nick was walking
himself for I didn't even know you did makeup on yourself.
I don't even know what it looks like.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
That's how you said you didn't know what your face
looks like. I thought you meant I don't know what
expression you had?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
No idea. Nick has makeup on a registered on the video.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
What is it? Just?

Speaker 4 (03:45):
It's like, you know those little dolls have the red cheeks.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I did that for Halloween one year when we were
at Playboy. We're having a Halloween party and I didn't
dress up, and day of I went to Walgreens and
drew like the lines on my mouth as if I
was a triloquist dummy, and then some red on my
cheeks and some dots and that was it, And.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
That did it.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
That works.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
So hey, next month, if you need a last minute
costume that said a little red, a little black, He'll
be all set. You'd be the cutest one at the party,
just like I was. And to Nick's immediate left, you
own them.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
We got them.

Speaker 8 (04:27):
God, can heaven every day? Can Heaven get out of
the way?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, you strains together. For the breakout side of the
podcast medium, Chris el is here. That's right in this
month of September as it's cooling down a little bit,
temporarily perfect.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
It's beautiful, right.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
No complaints for me, It's lovely. You can't get much
better than what we've add recently.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
What kind of mood does that put you in as
far as musical horniness?

Speaker 3 (05:09):
I'm there, I'm good, a right, good, good spot.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's Chris's turn this week. Yeah, so he's got a
surprise for us.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah. So a couple episodes episodes ago, we solicited put
it out there that you know, we could use some
suggestions from our listeners, and yeah, got a bunch of
good ones from people who I know and respect. Not
going with any of them. So, as with anything else,

(05:41):
it doesn't go right in your life, just blame it
on Andy. That's what I would recommend, because he seems
to have stumbled upon a winning formula, and I'm gonna
hitch my wag into that and see what we got.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Well, I think I know where this is going, but
I don't know what the song will be.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah. Well, I went on Spotify, just in the search field.
I typed the word horny in there and got a
ton of results, enough material for several septembers to cam. Uh.
So I decided to go with one that I knew

(06:18):
the artist. But I've never heard.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
The song before and still haven't.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Still have not. I didn't even look up the lyrics,
so it's a little bit of a crap shoot, or
perhaps a lot of a crap shoot. But let me
just get the info up.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
And in the meantime, let's Nick. Remember last week, Nick
forgot the treats? Are these the treats from last week?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Nice paper plate with a piece of foil on it.
And I'll see this looks very unassuming. It's a piece
of whitish cake with some white frosting. You know, there's
something suspect in there though, just wouldn't be say, hey,
I brought some white cake with some vanilla frosting.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
It's an experiment, of course, it is. What have you done?
Worked with the AI search engine once more? He typed
horny treat horny baked treat and didn't taste it and
just going with it. No, I I have some protein

(07:34):
powder at home, vanilla protein beef daddy stuff, and I
was wondering. Actually my son asked, do you think you
could put that into a cake.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
I'm like, like.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
You probably can. I've never done it. So I looked
up a bunt cake, like a vanilla bunt cake recipe
with the vanilla powder. Okay, and the frosting is a
mock version of the nothing bunt Cakes frosting. Okay. I
don't know why I'm laughing, but okay, I mean an yeah,

(08:11):
but that's uh yeah, that's what we have. Basically a
vanilla protein powder wow bunt cake, guilt free. And speaking
of Halloween, that could come in handy, Oh yeah, how so?
Or what I might be going as, what are you
gonna be? Might go as Chris Gaines just next just

(08:32):
making a games joke. No, I just that was it.
It would be a.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Good costume, though, Chris Gaes. You could pull off a
Chris Gaines, but also with giant arms.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
See if anyone gets yeah, nobody, nobody will get it.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
No, okay, well then go with the marionette thing, ventriloquist dummy.
Those are the two options we have for you, a
month ahead of time or a month and a half.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Or whatever it is. Yeah, physically I think I could
pull off a marionette better than.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Chris Ganes than a musclehead. Oh okay, all right, so yeah,
that's what we have. All right, I'm gonna try it shortly.
I have a feeling this is gonna work for this
horny song we're gonna unveil very well.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Could it's actually what kind of what kind of protein powder?
Was it again?

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Vanilla? Vanilla protein powder?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah? All right, well I think we're ready for the
song reveal. So and just to answer myke, you ain't
gonna believe it, but it's common.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
All right, Michael Loubattie, I saw what you said. I've
had that in the chamber for like three weeks. So,
Chris Ganes, yes, okay, all right, Chris, you're ready, I'm ready,
all right, let's turn the microphone over to Chris Jericho.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Hell, this one's called the Horny Song off of Just
Swallow by the band Vanilla Ice. All right, Wow, never
ending serendipity on this show. And I did not had
no knowledge of what Nick was bringing to pure coincidence.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
I mean, there's vanilla powder in it, there's vanilla extract
in it, a lot of vanilla. There's icing, there's icing.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
And we've got vanilla ice.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
And what year is this?

Speaker 3 (10:27):
This is ninety seven?

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Okay? Is this? Yeah? This must have been before he
did the sort of new metal cover of Ice Ice Baby. Man,
it sure looks like this is it? Is it the
right album or is it the same album from ninety six,
because that's like early on in the game. This is
from ninety eight.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, I don't see the cover on the cover of
Ice Ice Baby on here, but it's definitely according to
the notes here is uh is in that wheelhouse? He
was changing musical direction by that.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
When this was back when he performed.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
The nineteen ninety eight So what.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
Was the place, uh man, that Sebastian Bach played at?
And was it Highland Thinky's? Was it Finky's? Yeah? I
think I want to say, Vanilla Ice around this era,
maybe a few years later was a Finky's.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Yeah, remember we had I've never been in that place,
but I'm assuming it was just a nightclub bar kind
of place.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah. I never saw a show there either.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Here's what one stupid detail I remember because that probably
closed what it's been a while two thousand.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Wasn't a bulldozer involved.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
So okay, I was a teenager. Still didn't know it
wasn't a man of the world, right, I didn't know
all these words. I remember a friend of mine said, yeah,
someone went in there with a bobcat and tore the
place up. And I was like, what I was thinking?

Speaker 4 (11:58):
The animal and this guy and a wild cat went
into this music venue. I'm like, what are you talking like?
How did he could command this bobcat to inflict damage
on this electronic It's strange either way that someone was
able to get in there with either that or construction
equipment and just go wild. Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, I mean, do you do you really have to
be uh, you know, experienced a destruction to go in
there and wreck a place? I mean, can't you just
cut corners on that part of the Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, I think Nick saying just to get in with
the equipment.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, I mean that's how do you get it? How
does one unless you run through the door. Yeah, you
just break down the doors.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Maybe maybe they had a larger service entrance. Who knows, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Suppose, But I mean, you know, knock fellt me in
so I can destroy the place.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
That's the rumor I always heard. You think that's true, though,
we should find someone just went in there and.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Ripped the place with nobody's permission. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah, just complete vandalism. Well I okay, so I understood
that it was like a I don't want to say
a rival, but like someone who was upset, business, business
person scorned or something like. It was like I'm taking
this place out because you owe me money kind of thing.
So basically mafia mobs sort of. In fact, I'm want.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
To call bullshit on that. Nobody cares enough in Ireland
to have that nonsense going on.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah, well, we'll never know. It might have been the
same mob that blew up the State Theater in downtown
Hill right the nineteen twenties or whatever it was. New right. Yeah,
I blew it up.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I guess it wasn't the same man, but it might
have just wild guests on my part and.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Some old dude being like, I need my going out
in a blaze of glory.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Man.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah, Finky's is the target.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
So to answer question earlier, Vanilla Ice intended the new
musical direction found on the album as an attempt to
move away from hip hop music and discard his former
pop image. Hard to Swallow instead featured what he described
as skate rock, a fusion of heavy metal, punk rock,

(14:21):
and hip hop.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Okay, skate rock.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yeah. I don't see a cover of ice Baby on here, but.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
That might have been afterwards. It might have been the
next album.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, maybe there's a song on here called fuck Me.
I'm wondering if I should have gone with that one instead,
but I'm sticking with the original.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
I could be having a bad day. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
That's true. I might not have anything to do with
horn in us.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Walk into your place of business and somebody was in
there with a podcast before.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Fuck me, either the animal or the machine either, I
would be.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Saying the same thing.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, Yeah, paw marks all over the place.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Hey, for all I know, the Horny Song doesn't have
anything to do with horniness either. I have no idea
what to expect, didn't listen to it, didn't look up
the lyrics just to get fit the criteria of having
the word and the title, and I of course recognized
Vanilla Ice, So there you go.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Well this is an interesting call. Yeah, interesting era from
an interesting artist.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
So yeah, for sure, I mean it's gotta be, you know,
discussion worthy at the very least.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
How long is this one?

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Like four and a half minutes? Nothing crazy?

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Any other good titles on there? Andy? Since I can't
see not really zigzag stories for weed?

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, we'd mentioned snaffoo initial you know, s n a
f U who knows what that dands for pro Zac
stomping through the Bayu featuring John Fogerty and guess vocals kidding.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Isn't like situation normal?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
All fucked up? But who knows what he spun it into?
But yeah, and uh, the second to last song is
the Horny Song, followed by freestyle but yeah, a completely

(16:32):
unknown commodity. We're gonna roll the dice here, so to speak.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
And what were your thoughts on Vanilla Ice? Chris? Like
when he came out or whatever, you know, when he
hit the scene.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
I mean, I was, like anybody else. I thought it
was kind of a kind of a joke and and
patently ridiculous. But and one of the people who submitted
a great song gestion directly to me, an old friend
of mine from college who is the biggest Queen fan

(17:06):
I know. I don't know why she still talks to
me because I said this in a previous episode, and
I'm gonna double down on it. I'm at that stage
of life where ten times out of ten I would
rather listen to Ice Ice Baby than under pressure at
this jug.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Sure consider me part of your game.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, so yeah, I mean I would I guess liken
it to Limp Biscuit where I've somewhat over the ears
gained a nod appreciation for it. But yeah, yeah, I'm
good with it, you know. I mean, I'm assuming so

(17:44):
based on you know, two songs. I've heard Ice Ice
Baby and play that funky music. Wasn't that his other hit?
Cover of that one?

Speaker 4 (17:55):
If you were the age Andy and I were when
all that was happening, knew the the ninja was that
for the second movie, I had to be right it
was the second one. We watched that first one recently
and I was like, oh, it's not in here. I
wouldn't didn't know if he was even in the movie
or if you watch his first movie, you know, the
first Ninja Turtles. With my kids, they wanted to see it,

(18:16):
so we watched. I have a niece who I've never
seen the Vanilla Ice movie, and I have a niece
who loves cool as Ice the movie. Yeah, yeah, just
must be something the cheese factor up here.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
It's got one of the greatest lines of all time
that drop that zero and get with the hero.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Is that like the first time that was said in
a movie, Probably because that's kind of something that's lasted for.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
And if it was for years. When Vanilla Ice delivers
a line, he owns it immediately.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
So heard that many times.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, that's common knowledge among the entertainment.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Well usually it's some other guy saying it to me
as I want from past, but I and I'm not
even walking with anybody, just say it to you.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
So I got to the bottom of this mystery. The
ice sized Baby cover is actually called too Cold, and
it is on the track seven.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, where they put the best songs usually.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, it's got the little single thing next to it. Interesting, yep,
so on here with the horny song.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Okay, so this is ninety six, ninety eight? Sorry, oh
I'm okay ninety eight. Yeah, all right, so there was
plenty of time then. I thought, if it was ninety six,
then you would have been ahead of the curve. You
would have been right at the uh yeah, right on
the first wave. I would say, the new metal stuff. Yeah,
like the Corn album would have come out the year before.

(19:49):
I think the first one that was ninety five. Yeah,
I think so.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
So we got to the extreme in nineteen ninety. I
always forget Ice ized Baby has had ninety songs. Seems
like it's very much an eighty song, but it is
nineteen ninety. But to the extreme came out in ninety
The next album, Extremely Live. That had to be a
we got to rush and get another thing out to
make some more money before this comes off.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Yeah what year.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Was that one?

Speaker 4 (20:17):
One? Oh?

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Wow, so right away, let's let's get let's capture this
and put it out before you roll off Ice no
pun intended, and we've got mind blowing See on this one,
he looks like he's already got a dreadlocks or something.
He's got a different look in ninety four.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
I can't tell them what that is. Yeah, it looks
like an ex a Lottel from here. And then yeah,
a couple of years later, ninety we got hard to Swallow.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
And then the Ice BiPOL.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Or Yeah, oh yeah, v Ice v I that's that's
that's the logo used here v ice and here you see. Yeah,
that became his thing starting in ninety four. Okay, you know,
before we get into it, people Vanilla Ice or like
a Milli Vanilli or whatever artist you want to call

(21:05):
out as being prefabricated like that, I think they they
absolutely get a bad rap. Yeah, I think so, because
it's their performance is what sells it. So it's not
like I'll bring it up, I did it myself. They're not.

(21:31):
It's not exactly puppetry. It's not like, oh, these people
are not putting any of themselves into it. No, they're
the ones. It's like someone made the product, but they're
the ones out there selling it. And I think that
there's something to be said for that. I think we
a lot of times people put too much emphasis on
a performer being completely genuine, just bearing their soul completely unfiltered.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Mhm.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
And it's like if if someone's hired to play I
guess the lack of a better word, a character and
they're playing it effectively and people are enjoying it, does
it really does that really mean that they don't they
don't count that they're they're that they're quote unquote phony. Yeah.
I don't mean, yeah, he didn't write the song.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
But yeah, I mean, you know, I agree, especially with
the uh yeah, I mean, you're got to talk about
Millie Vanilly. I think the look sold them, you know,
back in the day. Yeah, an interesting look about those
two guys. And then same with Vanilla Vanilla Ice. I

(22:43):
think the visual image. And then also just you know,
once he started doing interviews, he had you know, for
better for you know, whether you genuinely liked it or
was just mocking the guy he had kind of been,
you know, and aging personality, let's put it that way.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
And also he could dance. Yeah, and he was dancing
of the time. So people who watch it watch it
now and or whatever later in the same decade mocking it.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
It was hot at the time, that's what was happening.
It was and he was doing it.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
It was red hot.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
So I don't know anything about his discovery or whatever,
but I'm assuming he had a look. He was doing
something somewhere. He was putting himself out there and someone
was like, Ooh, I can make money with this guy.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Let's do it. And it worked and they sure did.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, it worked. So I've got nothing bad to say
about Vanilla Ice.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yeah I don't. I mean, exactly put it this way.
He doesn't. He's not, so you know, appalling to me
that it gets under my skin. It makes me angry.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
You know.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
I can't say I'm I'm necessarily a.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Fan, but me neither.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
But to reiterate, I would if given the choice to
listen to Ice Ice baby or under pressure, I will
choose the former ten times out of ten. At this
juncture of my life, I don't know what that says
about me. All I can do is speak my truth
and that's it.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
There you go, So, all right, Well, we're gonna be
hearing a different Vanilla Ice.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Than the one that was Well, we're assuming. We have
no idea what to expect here. All I know is
it's got the word horny in the title.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
I'm willing to bet we've heard this song, Nick, and
I have heard this song. Probably I couldn't tell you
a note from it.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
But Jay, our brother, had this had this album.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, Okay, that's that's why it makes sense.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Yeah, that's why I know of the too Cold Yeah track,
So I remember that. I remember thinking that's pretty cool. Yeah,
I mean it not well, we'll get into it, but yeah,
just I guess the whole Uh, it could be a
mixed bag when an artist goes back and kind of
references themselves. Yeah, but I thought that was pretty cool too.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
I can pretty safely say that there's no way in
hell I've ever heard this song. So I'm looking forward
to it, all right, Hopefully I keep the winning streak
live and Andy's formula for success in September two for two.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Let's all find out together. Let's take a quick commercial break,
and we will be right back with the horny.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Song Goodness, the very definition of coming in hot more
ways than one.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Good grief. Those the lyrics, all right, well we don't
have an instrumental at least.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, all right, but yeah, definitely the new metal sounds
of the time. Yeah, yeah, definitely invokes corn vibes. And
that was also red hot at the time and stayed
that way for several years, so still hot. I mean,
they're you know.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
It had lasting effects, for sure, it did. Those guys.
They were highly influential, influential for better or for worse,
so depending on your opinion, but you know, they made
their mark on music, and no doubt about it. Almost

(26:43):
got vibes of like Kias Queens of the Stone Age too,
which is I wasn't expecting. It's a little that well, actually,
I won't say more legit because like I said, Corn
was legit highly influential, same with KaiA and Queens of
the Stone Age. So I'm getting some some of those,

(27:06):
you know, hints of that sound in this, which is interesting.
I certainly didn't expect that from Vanilla, and I did
not expect to say this on a Vanilla I song.
But I'm trying to figure out the time signature. Yeah, yeah,
kind of wild.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Jackie says, mood setting music. It's it's setting a mood.
I don't know if it was the mood we were expecting.
Is not what I would choose if I was trying
to create an area of horniness and whatever I was doing,
But who knows where it's headed, you know with the
lyric and maybe they're gonna, you know, slow things down

(28:05):
or whatever, who knows.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
It's uh, it's frantic so far, and I guess I
don't mean the pun with the Metallica song frantic, but
it's uh, it's all over the place, and I am
curious now as to to me, it sounds like a

(28:28):
situation where he probably had one guy who's a mastermind
and was able to pull off this style of music
and write and record this kind of stuff. Yeah, and
then just was like, hey man, Vanillas wants to do
this all right? Cool. That's just the very much outsider
impression that I get that there's one guy who is

(28:51):
probably the mastermind here. Well, on Wikipedia it gives credit
to eight people for all of.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
The songs on the album. One of them is Ross Robinson.
I'm assuming he's a huge part.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Of this, Okay, Yeah, because what.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Is he He's done a lot of stuff, right, He's
all the new metal stuff that was hot at the time,
like he did corn and did he do Slipknot?

Speaker 4 (29:17):
He's all I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I have to look, but I know he's one of
those guys who's done a million things and very much
of that time period.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
You know, you know who else is involved in this
keyboard is Scott Borland. You can guess who his brother is.
Is it really his brother, Wes Borland's brother? Oh wows.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
You've also got Shannon Larkin on drums. Oh, pretty notable.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
He's got everybody real who's who here?

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah? I mean, you know, guy, he was a known entity.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
You know DJ Swamp on this, Nick, that's your buddy,
Dot know about your buddy.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
But Andy's a big DJ Swamp.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I liked Dj dj Swamp opened for Tom a Hawk
at the Metro one time, and I thought he was
a very entertaining live show and bought his DVD of
his music videos at the time.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Well, we've stumbled upon a an all star outing here
at the guitar stay.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Guitar player from Seven Dust, bass player from Puddle of Mine.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
I mean, it doesn't get much more legit as far
as with the players on here. Yeah, genre of music.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
And honestly that makes sense with what we're hearing so far.
You know, it's legit for what it's supposed to be
at the time. All right, let's keep going.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
You're getting weak, getting real close.

Speaker 9 (30:54):
Tuned in the age put them up pistons in a
core bet So I don't.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Know what.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
He's getting horny already sounds like, now is it him
or the the lady he's with that he's commenting on
whose state is he? Well, he does say, I see
you're getting weak.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
So he's he's letting her know that he's observing her condition.
What do you say, pistons in a corvette? You're work
them hips like pistons in a corvette.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
All right, you're like high altitude and a lear jet
is the line before that? All right?

Speaker 6 (31:44):
Stands going through the body?

Speaker 4 (31:46):
Oh boy, that's no good. I gotta I gotta bring
this up because I'm he says, I think I'm missing
a lot here. He said something about handcuffing or but
then he said, you get a g w B stands
for a girl with a body. Yeah, it's like a
Will Smith lyric. You know what the thriller head p

(32:07):
y t on it. Yeah, but it's no, it's no
more far fetch than this line. It's not, but in
this genre it seems odd. But whatever, something I look
for first in my love interests.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
If they have a body, you have a body, do
you have a let's start there. Do you have a body?
I was out of the game before online dating became
a thing, but they would be my first question. Do
you have a body that's like.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
The flow diagram?

Speaker 9 (32:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Body? And then the line goes down to you you know, yes,
Then it's like yes or no? Yeah, probably like a body.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
It seems like the guy switches and wills it is.
The West told me how you do it? Like that?
Like skindles, like a point it back. I want to.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Come. This is so wild. It's completely unhinged here because
it's it's it would be lyrically oopstrong one. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
I just posted a comment here from our friend Jackie,
who's watching on Patreon. O MG, I hate this, she says, Oh,
Chris Camarado chiming in. It really is awful.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah, the winning streak might be over.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Jack He also said DJ Swamp is on a better
than Ezra's song.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Okay, he got around it. This is a lyric lyrically
and musically it doesn't match up for sure, but it's
still interesting and I I guess I'm gonna vent just
a little bit about rap lyrics in general. Okay, when

(34:05):
they rely too much on similes. It's like, it's just
the eyes in my head start rolling. Yeah, it's everything
is like something. Yeah, like there's a House of Pain
song that I remember a lyric that always made the
eyes roll. It was I need to get a grip
like Steven Tyler. Okay, you don't like that. No, I
mean it's it's there's too it's too much use of it.

(34:28):
It's it's a literary device that's way overused in that genre.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
And it's the hip hop version of drive me to
my knees or I'm You're driving me insane and something
like that you just resort to when you where you're
fresh out of ideas.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I have no idea again, anything about the production of this,
the creation of it. But it almost seems like lyrically,
this could have been something that was written for his
previous genre of me music and then I'm gonna you know,
I got these lyrics, let's put it on here. But
you're right, it does seem to not really go together.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
So maybe this was just a generic title, like that's
the type of song that this is. Yeah, and it
didn't have a proper title, and that's just what's stuck.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, Well, I hope he sings a big chorus of
something about a horny song.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
But I don't know if that's gonna.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
I've already scrolled ahead. It's not happened.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Damn it, all right, let's find o what happens next.

(35:55):
He just keeps saying, here I come here, I come, come,
come here, I come all right, before he said come on,
feel it, I'll come for you here, I come, come,
come here.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
What women would melt to hear these words delivered to
such a violent face, the epitome of the selfish lover.
Nowhere in these lyrics is the pleasure of the woman
even into that.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Oh boy, well, they definitely got the tones right for
this type of music.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Though, Oh well, how could they not, given who's involved
in it. But listening to this, I was thinking, like,
can you imagine being in the audience and a venue
for one of the live shows on this tour? Yeah,
not an environment i'd probably feel good about being in

(36:49):
or would want to stay around very long?

Speaker 4 (36:52):
What would turn you off about it?

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Just the people, I think would be my guess.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
There's really nothing about this that that I would aside
from what we're doing tonight, I can't imagine just ever
listening to this kind of music for a prolonged length
of time.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
Talking that's off the public off you know what? Would
you take it off and sending the Knox he took
them from the body, heat from my head? Would not
your light and all night you would go into the sunlight.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
What's you're trying to do? And make the ice melt?
Don't you know my cream is good for your help?

Speaker 4 (37:44):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Rob?

Speaker 2 (37:49):
If you I mean what you're trying to do make
the ice melt? Don't you know my cream is good
for your health?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Okay, Rob, Apparently she didn't know.

Speaker 4 (38:03):
Don't you know that?

Speaker 3 (38:05):
What's wrong with you? Do you mean you don't know that?

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Boy?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
You know?

Speaker 4 (38:14):
If I have to say something about it, that's cordial.
If you're into the style of music. He's a convincing vocalist. Yeah,
he's doing it. He's not any he's not lacking. If
if if this is the if you like this genre

(38:36):
of music, the new metal with the with the very
aggressive wrapping vocal he's doing it. He's not. It's not
like a thing where you know, I don't want to
you get you get celebrities or people who are known
for other things, trying to do a different sort of

(38:59):
an entertainment style or medium. Yeah, which I guess you
could say this kind of is and it could be
very awkward, but it's not at all. I mean, he's
as good as Fred Durst or pretty close to it.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Well, that'll perk Jackie up. She's a big Durst fan.
But no, I think the real litmus test would be
if a fan of this kind of music, if you
played this for them and didn't tell him who it was,
they'd be totally into it with zero preconceptions, be like, yeah,

(39:35):
this I enjoy.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
And there's probably a novelty to it where when people
did know Vanilla Ice made a new metal album, Yeah,
I would imagine that when that had some mileage on it.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Oh, I'm sure, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
I mean I don't know why our brother Jay bought it.
Maybe it was because of that. Yeah, I don't remember,
if he somehow saw him or I don't have no idea.
I don't remember, but I remember he had the CD
to get to the bottom of it and report back
next week.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Yeah, yeah, I get to the bottom of that. Everybody
wants to know.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
All right, let's keep going.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Well, he's definitely exploring horniness here.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
He is one form of it.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Yes, I don't know, I can't.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
We we discussed briefly in the last episode that concept
of toxic masculinity. I think it's way more applicable to
this than it was the song, the Danger Danger song.
At least there was some tongue in cheeks, some humor
involved in that one. You know, there's not detecting any

(41:01):
of that in this.

Speaker 6 (41:07):
Still in every way to.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
What does what does ice have with bodily fluids? Here?
He's probably a big pea guy. He's just he's not
getting off of that.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Don't you know? My piss is good for your health?

Speaker 4 (41:25):
One of those why don't.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
You know that? What's wrong with you?

Speaker 4 (41:28):
I mean, he's he's got a million of them, that's
all he's talking about.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
You know.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
That goes those guys that are so popular for a
certain amount of time, and they keep pushing it until
they finally they get to experiment with all kinds of
bizarre bedroom activities.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
What they'll tell you they've done well.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
I mean he landed on being a pea guy. You
heard it here first, Yeah, he was, you know.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
The penthouse of the of the day was his preferred magazine,
GUCCIONI went down that road for a couple of years.
Pretty strange. Yeah I know that. Yeah there's peep, there's
a pee ear of Penthouse magazine. I had no idea

(42:18):
Guccioni's yellow period, if you will, But yeah, it was
the thing. It was like I seen a Penhouse recently. No,
not really. Why what's going on on? Water sports? Going
on Penhouse? Okay, another reason why I won't don't need
to pick up that magazine right now. Don't get that

(42:41):
fetish there or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
But some people love it.

Speaker 5 (42:50):
They don't.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
I don't. I don't understand it's it's it's simply as
it's a mechanism to just push the envelope. I would
either sheer boredom or just seeing what you can get
away with. But yeah, nobody loves nobody loves it. Some
people love it.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
I'm just trying to be supportive. Tries to throw stuff
in like that just expects us to Robert Staff. It's
a generic enough statement where we're just gonna not.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's just gonna fly right past.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
I'm surprised he didn't hit the space bar immediately. He
couldn't argue, you know some people. Yeah, nobody loves it, all.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Right, fine, just trying to make the pee folks out
there feel better. I want to scare them.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Do we really need to do we really need to
pander to the peace.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
We'll take anyone we can get. They're probably the Patreon members.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
So well, what percentage do you think.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Of the Patreon members are of just the listeners?

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Oh there, just the population large? Do you think it's
about the same. That's a good question.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
I think more.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
More Patreon members, higher percentage in that group.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Okay, I mean I'd like to hear I'd like an
essay on that. Interesting read.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
I'll do a slide show next week, sociological study.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
Okay, I don't think it's true at all. Okay, sure.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Chris Camarado said, definitely not a pe guy I think
about himself. Jackie said, no, thank you.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
So everybody's defending the.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Nore.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Well, Andy said, all of you are p people. So
they're disagreeing. They're all, well, you know, people don't want
that out there. A few people are are conspicuously silent
right now.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
They can only assume the rest of you or pee people.
Anyone who's not piping up.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
At this minute. Yeah, okay, we got to not one
to judge from Michael Batting not into it, but not
one to judge. Okay, one to judge it.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
You know, I don't get it. I don't understand what
the appeal would be. I mean, the smell alone would
turn you off. I would think, how could have not?

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Is it a dominance thing? I don't know anything dominant.
It seems to work with this style of music. Yeah,
it's a it's a very aggressive It seems like most
of the lyrics are about about peeing, dominance, or wanting
to dominate or strike back at someone.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
You know that's true, So you think it's coming from
the I guess there's both sides of it. But I
was like a superior position.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Well, you're not really going to be pee upward. It
doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
No, I just mean I'm saying, is the song rolls down?
I'm saying you're saying that people are into this aggressive
type of music. Are they always the ones who want
to do the peeing? Or do they want to be
peed on?

Speaker 4 (46:08):
I just think it fits someone wanting to dominate and
be aggressive towards someone else.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
In which case I would say, be the ones delivering
the pee delivering.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Okay, all right, let's get back into this. We're only
halfway through, yeah, literally to the second halfway through.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
Take out. I don't what is that that voice? I

(46:58):
don't know. They're just weird. Sounds almost like like the
FDR clip at the end of Cult of Personality, Right,
I mean, what does he say?

Speaker 3 (47:08):
The FDR also a peak guy did history note for
his toilet side chats. It's considering the fact that he
was wheelchair bound. I would guess he was the one

(47:31):
who got peed.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
On, but not necessarily.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Yeah, not like I said, I was guessing. I understand
that could go either way, but that's.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
How he put out the fire at the end of
the chest that makes sense, started peeing on it. Cut
the mic or you're gonna hear p Yeah?

Speaker 5 (47:55):
All right, yeah, I'm talking to me.

Speaker 6 (48:07):
I want to play.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
I don't tell me you can play.

Speaker 6 (48:22):
I'm gonna the one to take a ship off between you. Don't.

Speaker 9 (48:24):
I got to get a motocross. But you with the
girl took to get sick with it. Know they're there's
no talks, says you with it. I'm gonna make it
all good. Not the weekend.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
You got enough for yourself.

Speaker 9 (48:34):
They're all my friends, and it's enough for me to
go around back the phone and said it don't like
I said, and what's it?

Speaker 1 (48:39):
One fold?

Speaker 6 (48:40):
I said, you don't ask it?

Speaker 4 (48:41):
And then what do you say about all his friends?

Speaker 2 (48:43):
He said, you got enough for yourself and for all
my friends.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
I don't follow. I don't either.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I'm speculating about that.
There's unsavory, bey, if you're going on here, I.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Mean, if we stick with the theen, it sounds like
she's gonna pee on him and all his friends. She's
got enough for everybody, including herself.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
Fuckingham Fountain. Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (49:25):
Said that Action black Jackson.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Said Action Jackson reference. Uh good. Ten years after that
movie came out.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
Tribute to Carl Weathers, that's who it was. Yeah, that's right. Okay,
I never saw that. You guys ever see that?

Speaker 3 (49:46):
I never saw it. I had an Action Jackson calendar
in my room at college. I got it at at
the newspaper.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
Okay, was Vanity the female?

Speaker 3 (49:57):
I want to say yes, but I don't know for sure,
but I feel like that's a movie. I should double
back and watch. I would enjoy it. But the calendar
was good. I enjoyed that nice novel typiece. It's one
of those weird things they said that the studio sent
around to promote it. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
I would snag that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
The other more most interesting thing like that I got,
especially movie related, was remember that movie Mystic Pizza. Yeah,
they sent a little glass container of the hot pepper flakes.
You're getting pizza and said Mystic Pizza.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Yeah you still have it?

Speaker 3 (50:45):
No, No, that was decades ago, but yeah, it was.
You could tell that either they were bored with how
they were promoting things, or coming up with different ideas,
or just were thinking outside the box intentionally to get
people's attention. But I thought I always remembered that. Never

(51:07):
saw the movie, but I think I used the pepper
flakes at home, So it's good.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
All right, we're about towards the end of the verses here,
but we go out on a high note.

Speaker 7 (51:30):
Make a swing.

Speaker 9 (51:30):
How do you do?

Speaker 4 (51:36):
What did he say of the last line?

Speaker 3 (51:37):
I beat you up as I floss with your g string.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
O boy, Yeah, it's a picture of you and me
on the beach and you be climbing up this tall
coconut tree. Yeah, all I want to do is hump
with it, make you scream, and eat you up as
I floss with your g string.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
That's it. Well, I mean he's very much wanting to
have physical there's no box.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
But yeah, that's about it.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Yeah, is this, I mean, this level of aggression, I
wonder is that really desirable by anybody of either sex?

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Floss?

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Well, just just just straight up just I mean, I
don't know, like just the way that he's really really
just putting it out there with an aggressive I mean,
the words themselves are aggressive, the deliveries aggressive. It's like
a frightening individual.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Well, I think there's whatever you can think of is
going to be appealing to somebody on the planet, you know,
I guess. But as to how many or who knows?
But yeah, I think that there would be more than

(53:20):
a few people on both sides of the equation would
be into it. I can't personally relate to it, But
who are we to judge? As we've talked about true.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
All right, let's end it off here.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
Like that. Come on, Oh.

Speaker 10 (54:08):
Oh jeez, oh boy, No, I'm just I'm reminded just
why I never this style of music never never clung
no to me, would never.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Willingly listen to it for any prolonged like the time.
Like I said, I can acknowledge the influence of corn
and stuff like that, but this type of music called
zero appeal for me.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
Oh what happened?

Speaker 3 (55:24):
I don't know, but to know what happened, I gambled
and I lost. That's what happened.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
The next song, Freestyle, starts with because I'm the Iceman,
I kick it like Jackie chan you nick another one.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
I wonder if we counted up how many similes are
on this album alone. I wonder if it would number
into the triple digits.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
We can find out.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
I'm not gonna spend any time but compiling.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
Probably pretty close. Yeah, if it's if most of them
are rap lyrics like this, and yeah, we can try it.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
I mean, it just didn't kick it like Jackie Chad.
You gotta admit, I don't hate that one.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
I'm gonna see if this works. I'm gonna ask AI,
all right, I'm curious.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Now, how many times does Vanilla Ice use the word
like on the hard to Swallow Elbow.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Let's see waste. It's in all of hip hop. I'm
sure there are probably some artists who recognize it and
try not to overuse it, but man, it's everywhere. Yeah
mm hmmm, I don't need all this information. Just see
me a number giving Well, it says I lack full lyrics.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Okay, well that's that's not what I want from you.
AI get full lyrics.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
You had one job, you bum, all.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Right, I lack lyrics. You know great. It's like the
handyman who broke my toilet. I could have done that.
I lacked full lyrics too, so I asked you asshole.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
Shut it down. AI business It's over. Yeah, that was
a fad.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
We're done with it, all right, It's time to vote
sweet surrender. We're kicking the crochet Chris, you first.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Out, like Jackie says, I'm stealing her line. I'm gonna
kick this one like Jackie Chad. All right, Yeah, I'm
also gonna karate, chop it. I'm gonna piss on it,
all of it. Yeah, pretty terrible, apologized to pot Nation.

(57:47):
Hope hopefully the discussion was entertaining. I definitely laughed heartily
at a few spots, but yeah, in terms of the music,
just uh, not good, not to my liking ally terrible
all right, Nick, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
I gotta kick it as well. It's uh, like I said,
just a moment ago, it reminds me of just why
this sort of music never resonated with me. I really,

(58:27):
I don't mind if things are edgy and you know,
there's God bless you and there's some noise going on
or whatever. But when it's completely that's all there is
and it's indistinguishable, Like could you could you imagine if
someone said, uh, right down the what the instruments are playing?

Speaker 9 (58:52):
It?

Speaker 4 (58:53):
Just I mean, it's it's such a mess, even though
these guys who are doing it are at the top
or near the top of that genre as far as players, performers, whatever,
just by nature this is you listen to those like
that first Corn album, it's not it's not a million

(59:15):
tracks going at the same time. This sounds like a
million tracks going on at the same time, and it's
there's just there's something about it that you just can't
decipher really what's going on, and it's just it's just
it's too it's too much, I guess, but that's what happens.

(59:37):
You have a mold gets broken and then people want
to latch onto it, and then they push the envelope
just how do you push the envelope? Just more, bigger, bigger.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Yeah. I was just about to say the same thing,
but articulated it and a lot better than I could have.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
And that's what happened. And I guess it happens in
probably all art forms, you know, when popularity becomes a factor.
But yeah, this it never there. There was and plus
attitude wise, there was too much of the people puffing

(01:00:17):
their chests out. It was too much.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Of which music. Yeah, I mean it was almost entirely
that wasn't it. There's no sensitivity or vulnerability.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
I mean, I guess if we're going back to Corn,
Corn had some complex stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Yeah, well, I guess you know, it's kind of like
all the other genres of music, the ones that ushered
it ushered it in are legit. Everybody who followed one
by one just was less legit, to the point where
it was just mimicking something. I guess it seemed to
be a lucrative formula.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
I guess it's the same thing with disco.

Speaker 11 (01:00:57):
Yeah, well anything, there's plenty a disco out there that's
just so derivative, and there's just there you can tell
there's no inspiration behind it, right, And that's again, that's
it's a common tale of any genre of music, you know,
psychedelic music, British invasion, classic rock, good on the list, yes, everything, everything.

(01:01:21):
It's just something that that latches onto people. Everybody swoops in,
and the next person to swoop in is a little
less legit and even less so down the line and
by the time. And that's one of the things we
talked about. Although we enjoyed Danger Danger, you know, them

(01:01:42):
coming in at the tail end, the very end of
the hair metal thing, there were so many bands that
were doing that style that were just completely forgettable and
one of the reasons why people had had enough at
that point. It's just oversaturated.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Yeah, all right, oh man, I'm kicking it in the crotch.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
Again.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Good effort, you know, put together a dynamite cast of
players here to do what was happening at the time
and potentially reinvent yourself hopefully.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
Well, I mean I guess you did, right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
I mean, yeah, he did, But I'm sure the intention
was it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
This is this is this is my reaction when I'm
hearing this. Oh, I'm as I'm as good as this
song at this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Sorry, someone was doing that in the vocals on this song.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
Maybe it was Brian sure would Sorry I interrupted, what
that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
I don't have anything else to do that we didn't say,
But I was just gonna say, you know, good effort
for what they were trying to do.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Who was it though?

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Effort.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
I don't think the execution was there, but I mean
they put together all the right people. The music was
kind of what it was supposed to be, but just
doesn't work for me. Brother, I don't know, you guys, it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
Had the proper attitude for much of what's represented in
this style of music. Yeah like that, I don't, but
it had it. Yeah, I think we're the wrong audience,
but yeah, we're not the people for this right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
And this also wasn't the well really, no month is
appropriate for this one, but this I genuinely apologized a
pot nation for pulling this one out. It was a gamble.
I totally lost. It was a mistake, So hopefully the
discussion was at least entertaining. But yeah, this is this

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is pretty far down on the list. I'd say it's
uh on par with that Tommy Lee tune we had,
which is widely regarded as the worst song we've done.
I think, yeah, that had.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
To be right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Yeah, all right, well if you disagree with us, we're sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
You guys.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Ever watched that Vanilla Ice show that he had, I
don't know. That was probably like ten years ago at
this point where he was doing home renovations.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
I never watched. I heard about it though.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
It was pretty good for what you know, it was
one of those shows. What did he bring to the
table as far as well he was a home renovation game.
It was Vanilla Ice doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
That was it. That was his only differentiator.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
So he had, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Just the personality of Vanilla Ice explaining what he was doing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
So he had little uh witticisms. Yeah, he brought witticisms.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Yeah, okay, witticism and then he peeded on the homeowners
at the end. A celebrator already move and also a
show of dominance folded into one.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
All right, let's take a quick commercial break. We'll be
right back with a yard o questions of questions.

Speaker 11 (01:05:22):
Yes, she.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
Not that? Whatever?

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Every once in a while, my uh maile app decides
to get all jumbled up.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
What appen is that? Yahoo? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
The one that I use for this for the yard
Questions is a Yahoo and I was looking at one
from a name. I thought, I don't think we've done
one from him lately. Read the questions. It was from
someone else. Oh, I pulled that on you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Yeah, I'm gonna just give myself a minute.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
Oh, six Flags, I'll see what's going on with them?
Why do you get emails from six Flags?

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
You know, subject line we're serious about fun?

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
That's right to fit at the top there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Yeah, oh right here, I didn't even see that happen more.
That's an ad Okay, Well it's Taylor t dude.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Yeah, I thought it was gonna be a Mia kulpa
about all scumbags have been shown up to that place
to see the carnival cruise line of the amusement parks?

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
Is that what people are saying now too?

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
That's the scuttle bar boy.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
Like, wait, so is there a high end.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Amusement park chain out there? I'm completely out of that world.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
I would imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Is Yeah, there you go. That's right, that's the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
Does look familiar to you?

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
I can't, and it doesn't look familiar, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
This week's yard O Questions comes to us from our
friend Jason W.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
Brooks.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Hello Jason, Jason says, Hey Boners, I love the show
and being a Patreon patron, and I hope you have
many years left with it. Here are three questions I
don't think i've heard.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Ask and I'm laughing. He's laughing at you, James.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
I'm not laughing as Jason.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
I'm not laughing. My eyes are so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
But I'm thinking if we did these and I just
read that, here's three questions I don't think I've heard
it asked before.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
It would be funny because we actually did them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Question one, Is there such thing as seeing a band
or artist too many times? It seems that apart from
Deadheads and Rusher Dave Matthews fans, it's really surprising when
someone says they've seen say Motley twenty seven times. Who
have you seen the most live? And is there such
a thing as too much of a good thing?

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
I would imagine, yeah, that it can get pretty uh
like going through the motions feeling yeah, like probably the
band I've seen most is probably Kiss, okay, and it's
not like I saw them that many times.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
It's definitely Kiss for me, and a lot of it
was the numbers were inflated because I went out to
Kiss Cruise, so technically I saw them multiple times and
that one weekend, But then I also saw them three
other times, so I definitely I count the total for
me as five, and for me, that's definitely enough. I

(01:09:11):
do not see the point of seeing a band many
more times than that, certainly when you're talking about the
twenties and the thirties. I'm nowhere near that with any
band out there.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
And there are bands that I guess you could see
multiple times on the same tour and it's fresh the
second time, but probably not that many. Yeah, maybe like
your Springsteen, Pearl Jam, those bands that do that, that
they go out of their way, Metallica, Yeah, you know,

(01:09:46):
but yeah, I would say that it absolutely can get
to that point, probably pretty quickly. But then you've got
I mean, I know people who've seen Kiss well to
the double digits tens and tens of times, you know,
and they love it. I love Kiss, but I don't know, like,

(01:10:11):
I don't know that after a while, I would be well, nowadays,
ticket prices, oh yeah, it's a whole new discussion. Back
years ago, yeah, I guess you could probably afford to
go see abandon that many times. But now, like, what
is def Leppard and they're going to be in Gary

(01:10:31):
for two fifty a seat? Yeah, at the at the minimum.
I mean if you go see that, you're not you're
not following them around the country to everything.

Speaker 5 (01:10:42):
You're not.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
But the appeal of that as you're seeing them in
a very intimate, comparatively intimate venue than you normally would.
So you're gonna pay a premium with at that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
But I'm anywhere at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Yeah, well yeah, no, I got yes, but no, I'm
priced out of it too to There's no way I would,
you know, venture down that road now. But during the
height of my contact going, like I said, kisses the
Tops for me it was five and I think that's
probably my max for any band. I just don't see

(01:11:17):
the point of going tour after tour.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
Yeah, so all right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Question two one, This is from your recent analysis of
an Aerosmith song. Made me wonder if there are some
genres or subgenres of vocal music where lyrics aren't really
a factor at all. For example, Slayers never been known
for lyrics of any sort.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
I don't think I think we've talked about this in
the past in the nineties, it just sounded like a
lot of guys were they had their notebooks with all
their poetic scribblings in it. Yeah, and just combined it
in the songs I mean, Nirvana being up there, uh STP. Definitely,

(01:12:04):
the lyrics sounded that way, and in a lot of cases,
the phonetics and the attitude were what carried it. Yeah,
not necessarily what they're saying. A lot of times you
couldn't tell. So yeah, I'd say definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Yeah. I think I just think in speaking generally, and
I I've mentioned this on the show before, but for
lyrics to really grab me, they either have to be
really outstanding or really terrible to get my attention, there's
anywhere in the middle. All I'm listening for is does
it blend in melodically, there's the melody of the lyrical

(01:12:49):
delivery pleasing to my ear. In terms of the act
the actual words jumping out at me in a good
or bad way, they have to be really outstanding, are
really shitty, and the song we heard today would be
in the really shitty side of it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
Well, and I could not it wasn't pretty unintelligible too, it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Was I mean we were analyzing it, and we've got
the lyric sheet of Yeah. Without the lyric sheet, I
uh probably Well, if we weren't doing it for the show,
I wouldn't have made it through the whole song, let's
put it that way. So yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Question three, you guys don't talk hockey much on the show,
despite both Chris's being from even bigger deal hockey.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Places than Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Possibly for your worst out of town hockey fans or
fans of any sport at Chicago area games and your.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Experiences, well, I can't. Really I'm the wrong guy to
ask because I'm not not loyal the Chicago fans, and
to be honest, I haven't. I've never seen a Blackhawks
game in United Center. The last one I saw was
at the stadium.

Speaker 8 (01:14:09):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
But I would imagine Detroit fans are pretty unpleasant to
deal with when they come rolling into the town.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
I'm sure it's still the case to a degree, but
it's probably less than a use to it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Definitely is. The ruffians and the hooligans again have been
priced out of Marena. You know you're not paying two
hundred bucks a ticket to go raise hell and get
kicked out of there.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
It's just not happening. Yeah, it's since the Blackhawks had
that what season, Yeah, where they won the Cup. It's
a corporate outing or a date night, yeah, I think. Yeah,
not that I've even really been there much since then,
but right, it's yeah, it's not a thing where you're

(01:15:03):
gonna get sections completely empty. Besides, except for one guy
sitting in it, you know, like before that you would
have seen that. Yeah, so it's it's definitely it's not
something where I think it really matters as much as
far as like, I don't know how many people really

(01:15:26):
I have their their personal identity wrapped up in a
team at this point. We maybe, I mean, I'm sure
there are people who do that, but I just don't
know if it happens as much. And is it just
because everything's more expensive? Is it because of fantasy sports?

(01:15:46):
I'm not sure, but I don't know that. I mean, like,
if you ask me what my team is, I'd say
Detroit Detroit Red Wings. That's my hockey team. Yeah. Now
if someone says Detroit Hot Detroit Redwicks suck, am I gonna, Okay,
I need to go confront this person, and I don't.
I don't care. I'm not gonna fight if someone along. Yeah,

(01:16:08):
Like it's not It's just I don't think it's that
way anymore. And there could be a lot of factors
you're playing into it now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
But well, yeah, I think you're like I said, I
think the And it's been a while since I've been
to a rivalry game or really any game but that matter.
But you know, a yeah, And just this past couple
weekends ago, I was at the old Michigan State Spartan's

(01:16:39):
home opener football game, college football playing Western Michigan. There
are plenty of people there with Western gear on. Nobody
there was no confrontations or anything. It's like, like you said,
I don't think people care about that as much anymore.
Back in the day, it was a thing. I mean,

(01:17:00):
we went up. We used to getting the scraps up
in the mezzanine at Chicago Stadium because we'd come rolling
in there with our red wings here and fucking get
threatened for that. And back in Michigan at the Pontiac
Silver Dome and the Lions played there. Whenever the Bears

(01:17:22):
came to town, it fucking got chippy in those stands,
to the point where you know, multiple fights would break
out throughout the course of the game, Like you'd be
sitting on one side of the stadium and you see
a raucous on the other side of the stadium. It
happened like five six times a game. I don't think
that happens anymore, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
I went to a cub Socks game a couple was that,
like a month ago or something. I was expecting that
none of that. I didn't see anything, no arguments. Now,
I feel like even you know, twenty years ago cub
Socks that they may do those Crosstown classics, yeah, or
exhibitions or whatever. At that point, wanted to beat the
ship out of each other.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
Those I mean, and I'm trying to think of what
game I was at. I think it was a Cubs
game many years ago, and there were a bunch of
people hanging out like in it in a lot by
an alley, and someone with a jersey from the other
team walk by and they're straight up carass and and

(01:18:22):
I just, I mean, I don't know if I don't
know what the reasoning is for it, but it seems
to be happening less, which is a good thing, you know,
I mean, honestly, Yeah, I mean, they get easier.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
It's a little Yeah, it's unnecessary that way, And at
the end of the day, like I said, I think
people who would engage in that type behavior priced out.
It's just way too expensive.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
You know, you take a family of four to a
pro sports game, you're gonna drop a grand maybe less
for baseball, but still you're looking at a few hundred bucks.
But take your family to like a Bears game, that's
a grand. Oh yeah, easily.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
Which is amazing. It's just it is amazing that certain teams,
and they all happen to be in Chicago, could be
awful and they make terrible seasons and just my default,
it's just going to be an expensive ticket. I've never
been to a Bears game, but only lifelong Bears fan
never been to a Bears game. Then I think there

(01:19:33):
are people whose families for generations have had the tickets. Yeah,
and they only can fit so many people in that stadium,
smallest stadium in the NFL. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Well, but also you know, it's the prices just keep
going up year after years, and people give up their
season tickets and then other people next in line will
step up, and it's gotten to the point where, like
you said, it's it's just core opirations or people making
a shit ton of money. You're the only ones who
can afford season tickets. Yeah, and that doesn't leave much

(01:20:06):
for anybody else. And it's just not you know that
how it used.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
To be the number one factor for me going to
a sporting event is parking. But then you definitely don't
want to go to a Bears game or a Cubs game.
Or a Cubs game.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Yeah, I remember our brother Jane went to a Bears game.
I mean this is probably five years ago or something now,
but I remember he said it was one hundred dollars
to park wherever they parked.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
It's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
I would just turn around, Yeah, like, can you get
me out of here?

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
Yeah? How do I? How do I you turn out
of this place?

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Yeah? I mean when I was a junior in high school,
me and my friends we just individual just buying tickets
to games. We probably went to thirty Red Wings games
that year. That's almost all of their home games. We
could have forward it with our whatever jobs we were
respectively working, because the tickets were like five bucks eight

(01:21:07):
bucks to get into the stadium. And I remember that
season we went to like thirty games. That's flat out impossible.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
Now it is, There's no way.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
So yeah, just everything's way too expensive, so I've been
priced out.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Yeah all right, Well, thank you Jason for your Yardo questions.
If you want to submit to Yardo questions, go to
potothunder dot com, click that widget, send three questions our way,
and we'll be back next week.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
Yeah I did. Once again. I want to apologize to
pot Nation. I blew it on that one. I openly
admit it. I don't know. I kind of knew it
was risky, but I was hoping maybe with Vanilla ice,
uh you know, it might be cheeky fun or whatever.
We didn't get that. We just, you know, got aggression

(01:21:59):
and you're an ancient.

Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
Hey we had something to talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, hopefully that was entertaining. But in terms
of the theme of the month and the quality that
people expect, came up short. I admit that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
Apologies, and I want to apologize to Jason for calling
him James. I just my brain went into autopilot and
said the wrong name. Happens all the time. I hope
he forgives you. Well, if he doesn't, I understand. So
that being said, I have my selection for next week.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
You're right, the ship. I have a guest or who's
supposed to be coming wow, in person.

Speaker 4 (01:22:44):
Or in person, a return guest.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
I think I know who it is and hopefully got
a better hair transplant since the last time he's.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
Been No, not him. It's a good guess. Yeah. No,
I don't think he's here right now, but.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Another hair transfer over me.

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
He's getting that better hair transplant right now.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Well, he couldn't possibly get a worse hair translant. All right, Well,
you feel good about writing the ship, then, I mean,
there's no way to go, but nowhere to go but
up from my selection.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
I I like that. I like the possibilities. I'll say
that much.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
All right, So.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
All right, I could Uh no, no, I won't. I
won't give any clues.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
I no, I'll just say I feeling good about it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:23:36):
I think it's I think it's a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
All right, Well, thank you for listening. We'll see you
next week.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
By ladies and gentlemen, this is September