629 w/ Ben Mollin - Eddie Murphy (& Nick Jones?) Party All the Time

629 w/ Ben Mollin - Eddie Murphy (& Nick Jones?) Party All the Time: Chris, Nick, and Andy are joined by celebrity hairstylist, ultra marathoner, and author of "Deconstructed" Ben Mollin to break down "Party All the Time" from the 1985 album How Could It Be by Eddie Murphy. If that wasn't enough, Nick hears this song for the very first time and shares a 20 year old recording of what he thought "Party All the Time" might sound like. 

Pre-Order "Deconstructed" by Ben Mollin

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:26):
After all that. Welcome to Pot of Thunder, the recognized
symbol of excellence and rock and roll podcasting, brought to
you by Patreon dot com slash pot of Thunder. There's
a tear for everybody. We're always adding more benefits to you,
fewer benefits for us, more for you. That's our motto.
We're giving it away practically over there. Patreon dot com

(00:49):
slash Pot of Thunder intro song this week. That was
Nick's boy Max when he was a little fellow. Much
bigger now. But hey, if you want to be the
one who calls out pot of Thunder at the beginning
of the show, we're gonna make a new tier on
Patreon dot com slash pot of Thunder.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
How do they know how to get it to you?

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, they're gonna have to find the world's nakedest man.
That's me. How are you gonna find him? We're gonna
find out together.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
He almost naked man.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
That's right, it's your buddy, Andy, the world's nakedest man.
That's right. You're confused. On Patreon, you're gonna find out
what that means. Not in that way, but it'll all
make sense.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
That's all true at every tier and as usual, I
have no idea what's going on. So I'm with I'm
with the listeners. I'm completely in dark, not everything.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
That's how we like it. And over there, this man
he's gonna do it for you.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
Waast Studio.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Pollock has entered the program. Nick, welcome, thank you for
having me. Oh what a delight. So you dance your
way kind of saw a little bit of it. It
was a classic traditional dance.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Sort of with a with a bizarre gimmick.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Perhaps, what did you did you throw something at our guest?

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Well, yeah, it's just like a baby's hand.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Okay, it was from a something in our group message
earlier talking about tiny little hand what would you call them?
Little hands that go on your fingers? Party favors?

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Perhaps?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
That's a thing, but yeah, and then I remembered before
I left, Oh, I have this one board game where
you have little tiny hands that you have to complete
tasks with.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Okay, what's it?

Speaker 5 (02:57):
What's it called? I mean the suspense what's it call?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I have it in the car.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
I can't remember what the name of it was, though
tiny hands, Give.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yourself, I don't know, give yourself. I don't remember but yeah,
it's a little little.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
How do you fit this on your finger?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
No, you just hold it and you have to do stuff.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
But you just said a minute ago you fit it
was inspired by.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
Those but we were talking about earlier today and okay,
so you have to eat like corn out of it, Like,
what's there? What do you do with it?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I should go get the game.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
We could come with corn.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's uh. It'll ask you to like write your name
or fold a piece of paper name. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
It's a difficult.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
And there's some wiggle to them too, right, it's like
it's in wrist.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, and there get it.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Makes it even harder, even more difficult than you thought.
I don't know what's happening here, tiny hands with wrists.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
I'll show you.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
After after this.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's in the trunk.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
I want to pen so bad, just to see if
I could, like, Oh, Jesus.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Got there's a book there you could sign with me.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
It's impossible, impossibility, possible. Yeah, there's no way to.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
The next immediate left. You want him? We got him.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
God, can have it.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Every day, can have it.

Speaker 6 (04:31):
Get out of the way.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, you put your hands together for the breakout Star
of the podcast medium which.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Put which hands together?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, we should have been clapping with those. Well, all right,
Chris is here and you heard a fourth voice. That's right,
he's back. Ben Mallins in the house, partner.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
You know what time it is?

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (04:55):
We got tonight, babe.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah, right there he is, bends back.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
What's up? Many thanks for having me looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
This is going to be run.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Thanks for returning and you're back because.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I wanted to see the little hands, little hands.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
But more importantly, the book is hitting the streets right.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
That is December first, Uh, Deconstructed Killed the Thing That's
Killing You will be available on all the all the
platforms where you can buy these things at.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
What's the one that well, maybe I shouldn't ask that.
I don't know what does the best for you personally? Which, uh,
the avenue of purchase the.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Best personally right now is if they get the pre sale, okay,
because that's the initial order when the book goes in
m hm. So so far pre sales are actually going
pretty good. And the first run right now, the first
run of these we're gonna getrinted or going to be
the first five hundred copies. Okay, So the first five
hundred copies. Not only will I sign, but there's some
blank pages in the back. I'm going to draw what

(06:08):
I think you look like based on the name, based
on the name, yeah, and I'll put your name there
and everything else, and if I know you, I'll make
it really good, really good. Okay, So the first five
hundred are going to be the pressing. Then after that
it's kind of a learned on the job thing. Okay, yeah,
I don't really know. I mean, audiobooks is done. I
think on the fourteenth of December that comes out. So
book comes out to someber that's recorded.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Huh, audiobooks recorded.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
We have three more like two more sessions for sure,
But recording an audiobook.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Fucking oh, I've heard it's not fun. What a head?

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Fuck. Yeah, you're the only one, Like you're mic and
there's nothing else there, Like you're just naked, but not
only are you naked, but your butthole is on your chest.
Like it's just all levels of awkward. So I'm doing
all the own editing for it. So then I have
to listen to myself condense it worse. But my buddy,

(07:03):
he's had a super nice studio. He's producing the whole thing.
He's got really nice equipment. Apparently I'm on the same
microphone and analog warmer that they did the Thriller record on,
which is exciting. I mean it's not the same you know,
that's the same one, but the same Yeah, the same
pieces of equipment making model. Yeah. So apparently I'm doing

(07:24):
the audiobook on the same setup that the vocals.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Were done on Thrilling Vincent Price, That's what I'm saying.
So exclusive company.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
So no, it's good, excited. We'll just we'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Remind everybody the name of the book and kind of
little synopsis what it's about.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
Will The book is called Deconstructed Kill the Thing that
is killing You, uh, and it talks about reinvention in
the purest of forms. I honestly, you.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Know that's I've got a lot of questions for you.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
I got a lot of answers, and hopefully this book
does too. It's it's a gut punch. It's there's parts
of it that are funny as ship beyond funny. And
then there's other parts too that hit the hammer on suicide, ideation, suicide,
you know, doubt, self doubt, overcoming obstacles, statistics, alarming things.

(08:13):
But I think it's actually going to make people smile,
And I honestly think I'm gonna save a lot of lives.
And we're gonna be donating proceeds currently right now to
stop soldier suicide, I think is where we're going to
go with everything. We were going to do a non
for profit called Crisis Line, which I got coaching a
couple of years ago to be a suicide prevention specialist

(08:35):
via text. But when I got the statistics on the military,
it was it's staggering, right, you just can't believe I
saw something yet, I sure just can't believe it. So
anything I can do to help with that and hopefully
get rid of the stigma of people being ashamed about
talking about these things. And again, funny story, and you know,

(08:58):
it was a celebrity hairduster for a long time, I
mean alcohol depression suicide and became an ultrarunner and here
we are, you.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Know, and this episode comes out the day before Veterans Day,
So oh that's awesome. It ties in there a bit.
You want to help out some veterans.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, just absolutely.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
You know.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
The only unfortunate thing is that your book came out
too late to save the life of the owner of
the post serial company, who we learned earlier unfortunately committed suicide.
He couldn't handle the competition with Kelogg's apparently, so second

(09:37):
to veterans are serial moguls in terms of people who
commit suicide.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's apparently one of two.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Yeah, that's everyone who competes with.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
So yeah, wow, two serial moguls will take their own life.
Sorry to make this into a joke, yeah, oh know,
we were talking about that before the show. It's not
a joke what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. So just real
quick here on our chat, Bobby Roots had original art.
He just sold a copy to this guy, So there
you go.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
What's the address for the pre sale? What's the best
way to for people to find their web Oh, I
can give you the Yeah, your home give.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
I was like, whoa, you don't want our listeners knowing
your home address.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
The path of the fastest resistance is to go to
www dot ben f nmollin b E n F N
M O L l I N dot com and that'll
take you to my substack. And once you're on my substack,
just click on that and I'll bring you to a
link that says system dot Io, and that'll bring you
to the pre sales, and the pre sales are closing
on Sunday, and then I'll probably extend more based upon

(10:47):
the success of that. So, so Sunday the Ace, Sunday,
that is it the tenth. On Sunday the ninth, it's
whatever eleven ten is. I'm making stuff up.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
This episode comes out on the tenth.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah, okay, so we're going to have to leave that
ship open.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
I'm going to. I'm going to. I'll give it a
day or two.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Oh and when you're on this show, your last name
is pronounced mole and mole, and so I know it's
fine show I decide how words are pronounced.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
It's totally cool.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
All right, Before we get into our pot of thunder business,
I'm just looking at your book. I think, I don't
you know, I haven't read it obviously, but just from
what you told me, it's about what do you say
to a guy who knows he's got some things to
take care of, but he's not ready to take care
of them yet.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
What are these things that we're taking care of ourselves?
Our family? What is it selves?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Selves?

Speaker 5 (11:42):
If you want to create more time for yourself, go
to the usage section on your phone, and the first
thing that you need to do is allow yourself the
knowledge that you do have the time, you're just not
spending it wisely. M So you bring it down to
almost like an incuban level. The first thing you say
when you're like, Okay, I'm not doing what I'm supposed

(12:03):
to be doing because I'm too busy, it's usually the
biggest thing that comes into play. So how am I
spending my time? And allow yourself to use that usage
of the phone and ask people closest to you, Hey,
am I always preoccupied? Am I always on my phone?
Am I texting this? Am I texting that? Because a
lot of issues can come from like screen dependence, especially

(12:24):
if you're successful at your screen dependency. You see what
I'm saying. Yeah, I used to get paid to drink
when I was a celebrity chair a dresser. I get
paid to drink. Yeah, So you're getting paid to fuck around. Yeah,
you're getting paid to look cool and to do this.
So create the time. So if you can create thirty
minutes to like an hour of free time, and then
you say to yourself what is the best way to

(12:46):
spend this time? And it's just these little steps every
single day. But the first thing you need to create
is time, and you got to find out where your
time's going.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
What if you eat too much Wendy's, then you need
to just stop eating We's.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
I eat Wendy's a lot.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I eat a lot of fast food. Yeah, yeah, you
look at it. Thank you. I'm probably supposed to be
like one hundred and fifty pounds.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
So are you having health problems because of it?

Speaker 7 (13:13):
Though?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
No, I'm okay. I mean like McDonald's.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
But I think the other the other eats like shit
all day long, every day, all day long. Am I wrong?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
All day long? I mean it's just you know, I
don't eat seventeen meals a day or well no.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
But you're three meals a day? How many of them
are fast food? On average? Zero point five? I don't believes.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
See.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
That's see, that's the other thing. That's the other thing, Ben,
And you'd probably agree with me. In order for you
to succeed, you have to be fucking honest about what's
going on in your life.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
It's easier. I think it's just it's a little easier
it's like.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Going to the doctrine lying him about your your personal life.
It's like you can get anywhere. I only drink two
yeah bottles of beer a week. I only have five
fast food meals a day. I could print out our
texts from yesterday. It's four fast food meals in one day,
in one day. For you do not like cooking or

(14:21):
are you just a no?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I cooked breakfast every day. I'm a gentleman, okay, lunchhite
never really go out, so it's dinner usually.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
I'm gonna send you these things that Angie got Marco
for school. M hm. You put the bottom of it
in the freezer and then it's got like three compartments
and that fucking thing stays cool for like a day, okay,
and then you just put two meals in it. You
throw it in a backpack, and then you're just good
to go. Yeah, you just have to find something that's

(14:50):
super easy mm hmm that you're not gonna mind eating.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Well, the next thing he's gonna do is throw that
in the garbage and then he's gonna go to West
get a fucking beef and hudd Andy ain't ready. He's
he's the kind of guy who needs to absolutely bottom
out before.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
So this is about like fast food consumption.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
I guess so, so that's my question. That's yeah, but
there's you know, I think your first answer that you
gave that was a great answer that was valuable.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Which is what simply stop eating.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
It before the food question. Yeah, create time, the creating
time thing. I think that was valuable to everybody listening.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
It's absolutely true.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
The food things. Stop drinking coke. If you're drinking, like
if you're a soft drink drinker, quit drinking.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
That ship I am all day long. Okay, I don't.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
Drink water then believe Okay, that would be the first
thing that I would change. Why because you'll start to
feel different when your body's actually hydrated.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Ingredient one water. I'm fine, you know what I mean.
Forty two okay, it's coming.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Forty two years of drink. I mean, you're pissed out
a stone one day.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Man, it's too big to come out. The stone there.
It's like a baby. It's not you don't have weight.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
It's just a stone from this.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Drinking coffee and diet soda.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
And I'm the one who gets the stones. You get stones,
and he doesn't drink and drink water. He drinks neither
of those.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
You guys are like those brothers from G I Joe
kind of.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Well you yes, you're getting it. Ben. The normal rules
of planet do not apply to these two. It's long
been established on this show. They don't apply to them,
nor do these two conform to them. They just simply
don't give a ship the original G A F guys

(16:37):
or d G A F guys. They simply don't care.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
It's probably true. Yeah, well, thank you for your advice
as far as yeah, great, just yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
If you're on the subject of health, healthy eating, what
do we got under the foil here?

Speaker 6 (16:53):
Nick?

Speaker 4 (16:54):
That came out of her oven the.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Most bacandest treat in the world and the.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Quick note.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Ben lost, so I couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
It's his face, he's so like, this is yes, you
know I did that with Chris, the two of them together,
they worked on that.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Now, Ben, can you have a cheat day and enjoy
this bake treat with us? Or I got to watch
the Sugar Man, okay, yours.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I'll be honest. There is some brown sugar in it.
There's a healthy slant perhaps, so what we're seeing, you know,
it's thanksgivings approaching something I wanted to try out.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
When you got a whiff of that, man, you got
a nose full of that, it's my So that's my good.
R's delicious, So absolutely.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
This is called the base recipe is the Great Pumpkin Pie,
which I think I brought before Sala He's baking addiction.
She's it's like a huge website, so it probably won't
benefit from me mentioning it, but that's where I got
it from Little Helps, and it's it's my favorite one
that I found. And I had a bag of ready

(18:15):
to eat, peeled everything, ready to go chestnuts that I
wanted to do something with chestnuts, and I had.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Heard chestnuts after the eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
I had heard your brother, I think.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
In Italy that's still all they ate, but on the
street that's it. I had a bag of them, and
I'm like, you know what what I had heard recently.
If you heat up your filling before you put it
into the pie crust, and you pure it like with
an immersion blender, you do both of those things, I
guess the flavor comes out more and it's a bit smoother.

(18:53):
The filling after it bakes and I thought, well, I'll
do that and I'll throw this bag of chestnuts. So
it's got purade chestnut in the filling, all right. And
I tried it earlier, really.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Liked it so and it's still just called the Great,
the Great Pumpkins.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
That's what it is on that website, on that Sally.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
The riff off the Charlie Brown car.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, I guess so, so I just yeah, I followed
that recipe and added the chestnuts to it. Just kind
of that was.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
That was that's the differentiator. That was minster chestnuts.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, that was that was my contribution.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
So said, it smelled good.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I think it turned out good. I don't know, you
guys could be the judges, but I was very pleased.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Then you remember that pro wrestler The Ultimate Warrior. Of course,
I read a story that because you know those guys are,
especially back then, there's such fitness nuts, they would never
eat a carb ever. It was just like steroids, but
steroids and protein, but they wouldn't eat anything. And I
read a thing where he was somewhere and they had
cookies and he wanted one, but he couldn't eat one.

(20:02):
So he took it in his hands and crumbled it
up and took like a really deep smell and then
threw it in the garbage and that was it.

Speaker 5 (20:07):
That was how they like he opened up the aroma.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's how they would do it. Interesting because
you can't eat it. You're in your underwear and you're
known as being like the most jack dude ever. That's
what you're being paid to do. You can't eat grains of.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Sugar, well, I can, normally, I can. I mean, like
it's not a calorie thing.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
With me.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
I found out, like, so here's a here's a fun
fact that my spleen taken out. When I was a kid,
I was like fourteen, I had like the I had
this blood disorder called itp So my red platelets were
destroying like my white ones. Like I was fucked up, Okay,
and then they wanted me to wear a helmet to
school my freshman year. So that's the first time I

(20:47):
tried killing myself.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Okay, okay, yeah, all right, I'm with you. So now
that you have my backstory, yeah, I didn't know that.
As I've gotten older and started runn ultra marathons. This August,
I did a Hunter miler in Wisconsin and I was
good for like a couple of days. I got back
to running and everything, and then I.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
Like my body crash man. I'd go to the er. Wow,
so my sodium and like my iron levels were off.
And then they took blood work and they found out
that I'm basically like anemic. Okay, so borderline anemia type thing.
So been you know my you know, my wife's a chef.
So chicken livers, I've been eating to have chicken hard stuff, dense, yeah,

(21:30):
organ meat totally. And then what happens is like I
start feeling really great again, like better than I ever did.
And then I go I'm like, okay, I'm gonna start
eating chocolate again and shit, but I'll be good for
like a couple of weeks. And then like the accumulation
of it do totally wow. And then I started getting
like brain foggy. I'm like, okay, this is just something
I can't do.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
It sucks.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
So yeah, my uh my blood filtration. I guess that's
why that happened. Interestingly, I'm just trying to make people
buy the book true story though.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
That's liver's chicken, hearts, all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Oh yeah, I'm eating like the Ultimate Warrior. I'm becoming
the Ultimate warrior.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Eighty five eighty five to ninety percent. Diet is your fitness.
You can't and you can't out exercise a bad diet.
Am I right, Yeah, Yeah, I learned that when I
did that Fat Loss challenge. The way these people eat
it's a different it's a it's as completely different mindset.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
It's like for pleasure at all.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
No, This Peron guy I learned from is just like
he eats it because it's the he needs to stay alive.
That's the only reason. Like one time he was having
a birthday party for his kids and one of the
other people in the challenge is like, so are you
gonna have a bait of birthday cake? He's like, ew,

(22:51):
why would I do that? It's just like it's so
foreign to them. But he's a competition bodybuilder and that's
what you got to do, and it's achievable by anybody.
But the level of discipline it takes to stick to
that diet day in and day out for a long time,
it's next level.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
I go in spurts Man. There's times like I'm just
the opposite, Like I'll I'll run a week where I
run like sixty miles or something burn like thousands of calories, right,
and then like a birthday party, I'll roll around and
I'd fucking.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yeah, you just wild, dude.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
I would make I'd violently make love to like this
the dessert oh god, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, I mean
it was just it was just full on yeah. You know,
I'd attack it with like a man.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Bottom line, Andy point five fast food meals a day
ain't gonna cut it. I gotta be point two five,
I gotta be point zero. Quit drinking coke, you'll be cool.
You know. Uh.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Our friend Chris Jericho put me in touch with Diamond
Dallas Page one time, and you know what he told
me on the phone. He said, I'd rather have you
do coke than drink coke when he was giving me
advice for health things.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
So there you go, right, was I but you're certainly
not drinking regular soda.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
No, but he was just saying all the bullshit and
any any version of right.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
But push comes to shove. It's better to drink a
diet soda than a regular soda. Ideally you don't drink.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
It's like it's like, do you want to get punched
in the left nut or like the right nut though,
Like you're still getting a hit in the the jewels.
You know, it looks who's drinking the diet mountain the
level of me going on.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
I fucking live here. I'll do whatever I want to do. No,
but but you're you're absolutely right. When when I was
hardcore on that challenge, didn't drink any soda, stuck to
the diet. I lost fifty pounds in two and a
half months, and then I went to a kid's birthday

(24:56):
party at Aurelios. I fucking wrecked that buffet. Oh yeah,
and I haven't been on the diet since.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Did that destroy your stomach when you did that?

Speaker 4 (25:04):
No? No, not really.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I did something similar many years I don't know, fifteen
years ago, and it was fourth of July. I think
it was a holiday, and I was like, all right,
I'm off the diet today. I ate a bunch of
pizza and whatever. Oh my god. It was like my body,
it was foreign to my body because I hadn't had
it for so long.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
Have you ever fasted? No, Okay, I had a I
did a crazy long fast, like back in the day
when I had Master cleansed. Diet came out when you
would take the like a cayamne pepper, maple syrup, lemon lemon, yeah, yeah,
and you put it in water. I went off that
for twenty eight days. I had to drink these like

(25:42):
it's like Himalayans. It wasn't Himalayan sea salt. It was
some specific type of salt that I had to mix
with water. I had to do that to have ball movements.
And after like the second week of it, man like
tar was coming out of my butt, like this is
the only way to explain it. That was all that
was left or what There was just nothing left. So
I didn't really pay a lot of attention to what

(26:03):
you needed to get off of the diet. So if
I would have gone in depth with it, you would
have had to like boil vegetables and just drink that
for two days like a peasant stew.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
You know you were supposed to like gradually way gradually.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
Yeah, So I ate somebody brought in a breakfast keishe
and an orange. That's how I broke a twenty eight
day fast.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Did your body lose its mind?

Speaker 5 (26:26):
It wasn't that my body lost its mind. It was
just the sounds that came from it, and just the
oddness that my body felt was just yeah, it was
next level.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah, it's all diet man.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
Everything is anyway, and hydration hydrations, yes, yeah, movements, but glue, calsamine,
coondrotten for your joints and then hyerlonic acid for your skin.
And if you're going to spend money, one of the
things I've learned at working with women for thirty three years,
if you're going to spend money on looking young, spend
it on your eyes because you age in the eyes.
M okay, So if you're going to get into creams,

(27:01):
since you want to under the eye, under the eyes.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Where people and the crows feet and all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
When people talk. When people talk, they look at the eyes.
We're looking at what you're wearing and all that, unless they're.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Super looking at your jugs that are hanging down your waist.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
Your ball sack that just.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
Knocks against your knees. It's all in the eyes.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
And speak for yourself.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
Well you'll get there if you're luck.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
I mean, people are looking at my balls, that's what
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
All right, let's get down to business, like Jackie said,
real real downer of a convo after the bake tree.
I'm like not even touching it, which is a shame
totally because we have we're gonna do the soundtrack now
from Dying Young. Yeah, we're gonna watch the videos good.

(27:48):
So yeah, we've brought Ben back when he was on
the show the first time. As is customary with first
time guests, they get to pick the song. This time.
You come in and we're gonna throw some met you
that you're probably not expecting, but I think it's going
to be in your wheelhouse. It was inspired by a
discussion from a couple episodes ago, so if you were,

(28:10):
if you've been keeping up with the show, you will
recognize it when I revealed the song, and it's a video.
Watch along is a must for this, so we're all
set up for that. So I'm ready when you are, Andy,
all right, let's.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Turn the microphone over to Chris Jericho.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Hell, this one's called Party All the Time off of
How Could It Be by the band Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
So here there was a whole album how Could It Be?

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Absolutely yeah, eight song album that Okay, what year was this?
Nineteen eighty five? September nineteen eighty five is when it
came out. It was when I entered college that month.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
I remember the mustache you had on this video.

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yeah he was dialed in.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
Yeah, no, he looked perfect.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
I don't know anything from this album, but I'm looking
at the cover and it's him with like a white
grand piano. He's gonna he's in a suit. Makes me
think we're gonna get.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Like, oh oh easy, dude.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
He doesn't make me. Doesn't make me think we're gonna
get that.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Usually we get an ad first that I can mute time.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
It looks like a like a Tony Bennett album cover.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
They're just dying to play it, just get it out
of our system.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
I couldn't get any advertisers to glom on the party
all the time, which is a mistake because this is
a banger, no doubt about it. M man, you're familiar
with it obviously. Oh yeah, okay, Well, if you heard
in the Rick James episode, Nick has never heard this song.
He knows of it, he's never heard it.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
He once he hears it, he's going to be like,
I've heard this before.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
See he doesn't think that's gonna be the case.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Is that drum be that crept in was from this song?
I don't know it. Okay, it did not click.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
But there's more to this.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
Have you ever heard Eddie Murphy sing?

Speaker 6 (30:09):
Tho?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I've heard Eddie Murphy sing, but what other song. There's
a song that I saw a clip of him playing live,
like on our sineo years later, and it was called
like red Light. It was like a it was like
a reggae thing. Wow, I know that song, but I
don't know that.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Only know the Beach the B side of Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, I cuts, I mean, and I've seen clips of
him on stage with the bus Boys.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
So but this song.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
No.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
So there's more to this, though, Ben, Because Nick, do
we know what year this happened?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
You're no, Okay, probably twenty twenty years ago.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Okay, So something happened. And I've explained this in the
past as being the most nick thing you'll ever hear,
and when you hear it, you'll understand what that means. So, Nick,
would hear people sing the chorus of this song and
as people, you.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Know, I worked with a guy who used to do it. Yeah,
just sing the chorus obviously, just him walking by with
his voice. No, not like the song was on or
anything like that.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
So, and Nick decided, I've heard this so many times,
but I've never heard the actual song that I'm going
to take a crack at writing and recording what I
think the song is. So twenty plus years ago, he
did it, and we have it. We can listen to
it after Wow.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Again going back to what I said earlier, they're Joe brothers.
The normal rules of this planet do not apply to
what and they never have and they never will.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
And Andy, I think years ago, was like, Hey, can
I play it on the podcast? I'm like, nah, I'm
not really like singing it. I'm just kind of doing
it like I was going to go back and try
to really sing it. But at this point I'm like,
you know what, if you want to play it, I'm
not gonna This was the limiting.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
But the leading like that was like fuck yeah by
the time, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, so what do you think are we up for this?
We're gonna listen to Eddie's version, we'll talk about it
as we normally do, and then after we'll listen to
Nick's version and we'll see how close.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
Okay, but it's knicks version of what he thought the
sound was. Yep, just never hearing.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
It and it's a complete song, like it's like three minutes. Wow,
it's like three forty or something. It's almost Yeah, it
might be longer than Eddie's.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
Okay, and that was twenty years ago.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Probably three forty nine is nixt version Eddies is Let's
see four nine. Okay, Yeah, it's about the same, Okay.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
I can't wait.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
But anyway, this is the only track on the album
produced by Rick James. The other other producers were where
we at a Quel Fudge that has to be a
fake person whatever, and Stevie Wonder produced to Believe one No.
One track.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
He wrote one of them.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yeah, he wrote the last track, Everything's Coming up Roses
and produced it. Well, No, just one.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
He wrote the opening track it says, oh okay, he
wrote and he didn't produce it.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yeah, I wrote and wrote to produced one. But Rick
James wrote and produced this one and prominently featured in
the video, and which is why we got to watch it.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
I'm curious about this a Keel Fudge personality.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
His name doesn't link to anything Wikipedia.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
So it makes me think of There was a semi
controversy over the guy who produced the Andrew w K
debut album because his name is like Steve Mike and
people think it was Dave Grohl and then like I
don't think to this day people know who it is.
It's not a pen name, but yeah, a pseudonym or yeah,

(33:59):
either that or like a collection of people there. Yeah,
it just makes me think of that.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
It's like a mister Bungle.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Let me turn my head. We're gonna talk about mister Bunle. Okay,
we can scrap this, no, yeah, no, So this will
be Nick's first time ever hearing the Eddie Murphy version.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
And I assume it also means first time seeing the video. Yes,
have you seen the video before? Abound? You remember it?

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Yeah, I was a kid the last time I came out. Yeah,
he looks good. I just remember he looked good, confident,
dialed in and he's got that that voice comes out
and you're like me, you know, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
And then you look and you look on uh, don't
give it away that I know that he's ever heard.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, but the one part that's okay to sing.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
But like here on the Wikipedia page, all the rate
all the reviews of this album are like one and
two stars got blasted because it's Eddie Murphy This song
is a straight up fucking banger, I mean, and mostly
because it's written and produced by Rick James. But Eddie
turns in a great performance here.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Now. At the time, was it kind of panned like
the album itself.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah, we took it seriously.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Were people just kind of was there an oversaturation of
Eddie Murphy at that point?

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (35:23):
It was full on. It was a full on Beverly
Hills cop. Oh. Yeah, he was the biggest movie comedy
star on the planet.

Speaker 5 (35:31):
I was eleven. How old were you.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
In eighty five? I just entered college. I was eighteen.

Speaker 5 (35:37):
I was eleven, yeah, eleven twelve.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
All right, well, I say we get into it. I'm ready.
All right, let's take a quick commercial break and we'll
be right back with party all the time. Nick shaking

(36:01):
his head. No, no, it's not a match so far,
so far with what with what he did?

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Well, no, no, no, it's not or just.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
With you, it's not.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
But I haven't heard I haven't heard it.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Okay, Yeah, let's that's that's not Let's not ask him
about how this compares to Hission yet. Let's put that
discussion off until later. Let's just focus on the original track.
Get Nick's impressions hearing it for the first time, so
you're convinced you've never heard this before.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
No, I mean so far it's got a I mean,
not really the drum beat, but that keyboard bassy kind
of thing opening up too much time on my hands,
perhaps a bit, a little bit.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
It's a little more straightforward that weren't. It's a straight
note that doesn't it's no a real effect.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
I guess it's just that sound.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
It's about to get mixed though, like you know studios, that's.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
About to happen.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Yeah, I mean it's again it's building up tension and
excitement where it's the worst. It's the work of a
master songwriter and producer.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
And the video wise, the fader is going up, and
that fader is going the you meaters.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Are bouncing into the red. You're about to go on
a ride. Right now, here.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
Comes the low Tom.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Can you turn off the fucking captions? I fucking hate
cult closed captions on anything. They're off, especially on music
videos where it's like, you know, trying to set the stage.
It's like I don't need those words on the screen.
Get them off, you know. So here, Yeah, we had

(37:58):
Eddie coming down the stairs into the studio and he's
about to be greeted by Rick James. And as Ben
has said a few times, Eddie looks great here.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
He and Jay Leno took him down the stairs too.
I just noticed, Diddy, you might want to back a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Of the fucking closed captions were distracting med.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
Check out his entourage.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah, it's close to current from that's not him, I
don't think so.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
It sounded like like with.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Like Robin Williams wardrobe from the early looks.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
He's just like a Chinese lesbian woman.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
Quasi cosby sweater on, kind of understated, just simple strike.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Strong though he's like one of those guys like I
used to be a powerlifter.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Probably he's probably security work in the studio.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
Well, this guy, and can you imagine the ancillary pussy
this guy got around with these people.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
He's probably still getting it probably.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
But back then lining up, you know, there was no
there was no point five woman a day for this guy.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
They probably was.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Probably it was equivalent to Andy's real number of fast
food meals a day, which would be three or four
is how many women this guy was getting a day.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
I think he just came down the stairs after doing
some fucking I think together.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yea, the running they got match watches on.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
It's just Eddie is half unbuttoned and he just hastily
put it back on. No miling ear to ear. I mean,
life is couldn't get better for these guys.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
No chest hair like zero. He never has got that
Wayne Brady like perfect glow.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
I see it.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
They never had any though that I can recall. But anyway,
he's entering the control room where Rick and the rest
of the entourage are. Rick's hair, by the way, awesome
in the video.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
I didn't expect it to be that color. It's like
a reddish blondish.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's like a real pearlman kind of.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
You gotta you gotta remember this is five years after
the Street songs, Uh heyday. You know he was he
was changing up his image a little bit for the
mid eighties.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
He was tired in the eighties. Yeah, probably he's got
to be exhausted doing that Rick James stuff.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Well, we'll be able to gauge it by looking at
him in this video.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Right, all right, let's keep going.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
That's that's I'm sorry, that's outlandish hair. James has there's
no sugarcoating that.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Now, you mean that in a bad way.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
It's atrocious. What is he doing?

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Got that kind of lion king?

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, NEPHERTERI almost, yes, yes, very much.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
Something you'd see like on a plate, you know, at
a kiosk, and like the mall, the mall, at.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
The antiques, at the antique mall down the street.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
There's that guy. Again.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
He's not a security guard though, nor he might be an.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Okay, real quick. I do like the fact that this
is presented as if this is it, Like he's walking
in while it's playing, he's never heard it and he's
just going to put the headphones on, get in front
of the mic and bang it out. I love it.
I do like that a lot.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
I can feel like a pressure on him, Yeah, even
though he looks confident. They're watching, Yeah, the people are
looking through the glass window.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Well, there's anybody who's recorded in the studio knows that
there's always a certain degree of pressure because time is
money in this judio. You gotta get your shit together.
When you're looking at the other end of the glass
and Rick James is staring you down.

Speaker 5 (42:06):
Oh yeah, that's pressure, and that dude, you just got
done sucking at chick with Yeah, exactly, he's in the room.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah. Can you imagine that guy, like this is an
East Coast what he's probably fifty white guy and he's
hanging with these guys as an equal. This guy must
have been somebody. We don't know who or what, but
like looking at that guy he's hanging with Rick James
and Eddie Murphy as like, yeah, in the mid eighties.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
Walking in first on camera, who is this guy he
gits in?

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah, he's checking. He's checking every room before Eddie gets
to walk in.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah, something's going on with that guy. Yeah, we'll find
out maybe.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
All right, go ahead, Chris, I was just saying Eddie's
grabbing the phones, he's stepping up to the bike, and I,
not ready to deliver the vocal, said why.

Speaker 8 (43:01):
You both to hurt it? After all up things I've done,
browsers down?

Speaker 6 (43:18):
Okay yet out?

Speaker 8 (43:21):
Like what f.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
I've definitely never heard this. I'm forty five years old,
never heard this song in my entire life. Thought so
far then not what I was expecting.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
So what can you? Can you describe what you expect?

Speaker 7 (43:54):
Well?

Speaker 2 (43:54):
I can, I guess I can't you'll hear what I
was expecting after this.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
I mean, all right, that's a good point, but to
show your hand, you can wait.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
But yeah, it's just, uh, I enjoyed because all I
know is that basic sort of party all the time,
that little melody snippet. So hearing where it goes around
that before and after is very interesting to me. It's
it's really a weird thing right now, because.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
This is like someone covering your song.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
In a way, in a really weird way.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Original.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
I only know mine, Yeah, and I haven't heard that
in years. Yeah, yeah, but it's yeah, it's really a
crazy it's way weirder of an experience than I was expecting.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
It's kind of perfect though, this version, this song, it's
just I.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
Mean, it's it's great. It's Rick James number one. Yeah,
I mean he's an act. You know, I got Eddie Murphy.
You know, the voice catches you off guard.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, it's higher than I was expecting him to be
singing like eunuch.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah, it's strata.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Yeah, so one of our favorite words, you know.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
Yeah, hey, Eddie, how's it going pretty good?

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Yeah, it's a very Michael Jackson asked.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Yeah, I think he was doing a voice, right, Like,
this isn't Eddie speaking voice. He's it's like an impression
of what a different name.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
If he was, like, he'd be like something else.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Well, I mean just like think of like Prince did
that falsetto like all the time? Yeah, I mean, it's.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
Want to be Your Lover songs like that kiss is
like the take it up a notch.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
But he'd played guitar though, and he was Prince.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
But I'm saying that.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
It sounds good for what it's doing. But I think,
like you get you don't expect it.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
No.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
I like when his when he first started singing, it
was a surprise.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
Sure, But that's the thing that that's what was so
surprising about it in a good way, because when when
you hear Eddie Murph he's coming out with a music album,
you're like, Okay, this is gonna suck, and that I
guarantee you that's half these critics, before they even heard
the album, had already established that they were going to
destroy this album. You hear this for the first time,

(46:16):
if you're if you can come in with put your
preconceptions aside and just listen to it objectively, your initial
reaction has to be. This is pretty fucking good. I'm
impressed by this and any kind of singing that goes
up a register that's impressive to do. It's not easy

(46:37):
to do, and not many people can pull it off.
You know. I don't know how much studio trickery was
happening here, but so far probably sounds great.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
It sounds awesome.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
I mean, I remember the first time it was from
Midtown video him in Indiana. We rented the Best of
Eddie Murphy SNL EHS many years ago, and there was
a skit on there where it was like some kind
of like function going on, like a sort of upper
class function, and they booked a musical act to perform

(47:10):
at it, and it was him doing like a sort of.

Speaker 5 (47:13):
A sexual chocolate Oh no, it was like a reggae.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Kind of a thing. And I and it was killed
the white people with the song. And I remember thinking, like, Wow,
Eddie Murphy really sings like I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
It sounds good.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, like he's wow. Okay, I guess you can. I
guess if you're an entertainer, you can do more than one.
You can specialize in more than one.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
All the entertainers from the era you love. They were
all song and dance. Man, they could all dance and
funny too, and all the boxes checked. He's a throwback
to those entertainers sing, dance, be funny, all of it.
He's doing it. I watched that fairly recently to kill

(47:55):
the white people while.

Speaker 5 (47:57):
Areas, Oh yeah, awesome.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
But but this, it's just like a distorted guitar and
just him singing.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
Yes, Buck Watson's it's pretty funny too though.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Yeah, yeah, is that comedic? But when, but when you
hear it, when you hear this, he's legitimately at a
higher register. That's impressive. It's it's hard. Everybody knows it's
hard to sing in a higher register. All these older

(48:29):
singers are still at it. They gotta tune down or
they gotta change their approach because you you can't hit
those notes for for your entire life. It's it's physically impossible.
At some point, it's.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
Like questioning bo Jackson sing though in a way like
it's just like if Bo Jackson started singing.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
That's what you think the voice would be.

Speaker 5 (48:49):
He'd only make one record and he'd look good doing it.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
And I think some other notable people in his video
with them Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
It's off putting it first, but when you when you
strip away all the preconceptions, is fucking good.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
Yeah it's a banger. Yeah, it's produced perfectly, it.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Is, and the lyrics are great. You know, they're talking
about a woman who likes the diamonds and pearls and
staying out all night, and that's not really meshing with
where Eddie wants to be in his life in the
context of the song, of course.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
Yeah, he's tired of doing blow and flying all over
the world as a celebrity.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
If he's tired of doing blow, I don't know if
you should link up with Rick.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Gab The for him. I'm going to end up with that.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
He's gonna be wearing the wig on the way out
of the studio that.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
Oh yeah, that was a.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Rough Yeah, he's gonna win it in a game of
poker proudly.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
With that guy.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
There's a full eight ball of coke residue in that
wig right now?

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Oh easily, all right, let's keep going here.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Sorry to stop it, but is that Georgia Lynch behind him?

Speaker 1 (50:05):
It is not, It is not, but it looks like
Michael Bolton.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
Jackson.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Yeah, and so is the other guys playing the tiger
striped probably a kreamer. This is uh Rick James's regular
band backing up Eddie here.

Speaker 9 (50:24):
Nice.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
It wasn't even the when he was lip syncing. It
wasn't even synced up. That's the only well he fell
back a little bit, Eddie murh anytime we paused Eddie Murphy.
It's just the look on his face is just yeah,
look at that.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
It's commitment.

Speaker 5 (50:56):
You just haven't seen that in a while with him,
you know, Yeah, young Eddie just stuck mid frame singing.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Yeah, you don't get that anymore. He's just doing what
he wants now. He's not really trying to put out
anything to fit in or whatever.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
You know.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
He's he has he has nothing left to prove, I guess,
is what I would say at this point.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
He's aged. I think he's aged gracefully, both as what
he looks like and how he conducts himself. Yeah. I mean,
I think the last time I remember seeing him was
at the SNL the fiftieth anniversary, which was like what
a year ago or two years ago? I thought he
came off great. He's he didn't lapse fully back into

(51:37):
like the old stick. He's he's he's he's in a
good place. It looks like maybe he's finally stopped fathering children.
Who knows, but you know, I think.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
He's Does he have a lot?

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Yeah, he has like eight or.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Nine maybe multiple baby mamas. I believe hey afford it. Yeah,
he's all right if you can afford it?

Speaker 6 (52:03):
Why not?

Speaker 4 (52:06):
All right? All right? Well verse two, he's ready to go,
hear him.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
Yeah, she's.

Speaker 10 (52:27):
Just hanging it out and dancing.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
You get give them ten rim many.

Speaker 8 (52:39):
You'll never come home at night because you're alcrom bancing.

Speaker 10 (52:46):
I will should bring some of the joke love.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
But my.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
Now, if your woman is never coming home, there's a
problem in that relationship. Think it should have been addressed
before it's time to verbalize it. Apparently this woman never
comes home when she goes out. I mean, what do
you think is going on with this woman?

Speaker 5 (53:11):
But it's Eddie Murphy's girl. Though he's not talking about
our women. Well, he's talking about these bougie ass like
hottest Dubai Chicken the world women.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Well, yes, but at the end of the day, she's
not coming home to Eddie.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
So what you know, there's someone else taking Eddie's place.
Though it bothered coming back.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Bothered him to the point where he called Rick James
and said, I need to I need to put this
on paper. Yeah, and then put it on tape.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
And Rick James is broke heart as we give it
to me. Baby is a similar story of a couple
who half of it is never comes home until the
wee hours in the morning and expects, you know, some
instant love making, when when the person who's at home

(54:00):
knows full well that they've been out doing coke and
banging other.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
People, doing more instant love making with other people.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
So it's it's a these relationships are not in a
healthy place basically.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
No, they're not.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
You know.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
The other thing I was thinking about, Eddie Murphy did
that Mike Tyson impression once in a while. This vocal
is almost as if he's doing that Mike Tyson register.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, So it's Mike.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Tyson, Michael Jackson Prince rolled into one to do this song.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
That's a winning formula in the mid eighties.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
Yeah it is, Oh yeah, dream team. Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Rick's hair outrageous hair.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Stopped it. Yeah, and you stopped it just as we're
entering the best scene in this video.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
So yeah, Rick is flying.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
Oh, he's flying absolutely, I mean, and he's about to
fly even higher. And the next is, oh, it's possible.

Speaker 5 (55:24):
You know he's got a cross. Time. What's underneath the
cross like some kind of a medallion.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
It's probably filled with cocaine. It's like a charma necklace.
It's just got a bunch of coke.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
It's just cocaine. He's got the cross and cocaine.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
Yeah, the cross he uses as a coke spoon.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Yes, yes, I wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
No.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
See, now that's a happy producer. That's what you want
to see on the other side of the desk when
you're laying down some tracks, is a pleased producer being
ecstatic with your performance.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
That's just a good editing job, though, because what really
happened is that Jay Leno guy walked in with a
paper bag. That's why he was excited, you know what
was in there? And Rick was happy.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
That would be amazing if that was his coke dealer,
wouldn't it could be, could be, I might explain things.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
Would explain a lot.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
But that's why he's on equal footing with these guys.

Speaker 5 (56:24):
Tie them high.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
Ben, I think you you actually had a similar look
on your face as Rick James did there during the
I Ate Her Asshole sessions way back when.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
Man if we would have had video cameras back then.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Because okay, as a guitarist, well, Ben was overseeing the session,
and as a guitarist, he gave me the instruction that
every is every guitarist's wet dream. He simply said, come
in sollowing like okay, I can do that. I did,

(56:58):
and he reacted much like Rick James. I was just like, yeah,
you tell me to come in solo. I'm coming in solo,
and I don't know where you gotta worry about me.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
I don't know where that song is.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
I haven't heard it in decades, but chorus.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Was just wow. I don't know about that one. This
is news to me.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
The name of the song was she Ate My Asshole, okay,
and it was about my friend Mike and something that
happened bench warmers and bench warms, some random older like
ladies that were there.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
I believe it. I went to bench warmers a couple
of times, came.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
Home and told us about it and told me to
keep it on the hush.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
The next day, can you come over and.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
Record and then right when Mike walked in, and it
was like a four minute song of just guitar rips
and just like she like you know.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Gang vocal chorus, she ate my asshole.

Speaker 5 (57:54):
When he walks in home from work after telling me
to keep it on wraps, there was like an anthem
all knowing that he got his clock clean from some
like fifty year old you know on Ridge Road and
bench warmers.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
Yeah, so it was on mini disc, which is why
I'm having a hard time finding it.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Yeah. Wow, yeah, I do remember the first two sets
of well, the first two lines of lyrics. It was
something like they call me the midnight Kisser. Yeah, I
shaved my face with a rusty blade.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
Oh yeah, first, Uh.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Yeah, that was good.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
That's poetic. I didn't expect that, Lie.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
I was kind of hoping you'd say, oh yeah, I
still have that. But I've gone into the vapor.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
I looked so, I mean every random mini disc, and
you know how hard it is to play a mini disc.
Yeah yeah, you only set that up for a couple
of days and then you're like, I give up. You know,
I couldn't find it. That's too bad.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
Anyway, the time I you know, you you call me
in to do a session, you tell me to come
in soloing. I'm doing it. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna
make you happy. And Ben reacted much like Rick did
right there, and uh and this was Rick James reacted
that way before Eddie delivers his finest moment in the song,

(59:19):
which we're in the middle of. So you might want
to back it up a second or two. Go back
to when Rick is like gushing into the camera and
you know we're gonna hear some good, solid vocals from Eddie. Yeah,
there you go, all.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Right, here we go.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
Nothing wrong with that. He held that note, wasn't any warbling,
It was solid right on pitch.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
No, uh, he didn't fall back on any vibra, right yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
And if I mean yeah, that's pretty tight.

Speaker 9 (01:00:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
And if they're a studio trickery, I don't want to
know about it. I want to cling to my belief
that Eddie Murphy delivered this vocal performance largely as we
hear it, without too much How.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
Would you trick that back in eighty four eighty five
though there's no auto tune, I mean, I don't know. Yeah,
you just have big boards that's the same technology they
were using in the I mean, it's just still I
don't know, it looks pretty. It just looks digital to
two inch you could.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
Still you could still manipulate pitch to a certain degree,
not as severely as gotcha later on. I think, but
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
I don't think I'm gonna guess that there's very little
or none though, because.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
I'm I'm going to stick to that too. I want
to believe that Eddie Murphy stepped up to the plate
with this project, took it seriously, and we're hearing the
results of it. This is a fucking banger. There's no
way or no two ways about it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
A good singer is a good mimic, right, because they're
I would think they're trying to make a pitch. You know,
they're they're doing things with their voice that is supposed
to sound like something else that already exists, which is
what Eddie Murphy made himself famous doing, figuring out exactly
what he could do with his voice to make it

(01:01:24):
sound like something else. I don't I see that those
two things go together.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I think so too. I think you're absolutely right, and
I think, like, uh, you've got your like it could
Frank Kelly Endo come out with an album. Perhaps he can.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
I'm sure he could doing the voices he does. I mean,
maybe he couldn't sing really high if it's it's just
not pal But i mean, if he hears a melody,
I'm sure he can probably lock into a melody if
he can, if he can do John Madden's voice, and
kind of all the ups and downs and just intricacy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Because you're hitting, you're hitting a different pitch at least
a different like range of pitches, and you've got to
hit him right. Yeah, it's so it makes perfect sense.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
Yeah, pitches, inflections, tones of voice, Yeah, it makes it
does make sense that it per someone who's known for
doing impressions could conceivably be a good vocalist. But Eddie's
beyond good on this recording. He's fucking really good, if

(01:02:31):
not excellent. And again, when I first heard it, I was,
like everybody else, I had the preconceptions this is gonna suck.
He should stick to movies in comedy, he doesn't know
anything about music. Then you hear this and you're like,
this is pretty fucking good.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
You're like, well, I already wrote my review of some
just gonna turn that in, but this is pretty good.
I already said it sucked. I'm not going to go
back on it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
But that is the that is the critics mindset. Believe me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Yeah, I already made up my mind before I ever
heard this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
I think I told this. Yeah, I know I reopen.
When I when I was going to school in Chicago,
there was an engineer who came in and he had
worked with like Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross, the Police, stuff
like that, and uh, he said, yeah, I recorded the
Walter Payton album.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
And I'm like, Walter Payton, another guy with a high voice.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Yeah, but never came never came out. So apparently somewhere
out there there are tapes of a Walter Payton album
that never happened.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Have you ever tried to look for them? I don't
think it was.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
I don't think I've never tried looking for it. But
I don't think it it came off the shelf. I mean,
it seems like nowadays everything's been stolen, yeah and leaked yea,
but not that I've ever come across Walter Payton. He's like, yeah,
I recorded Walter Payton, and I was like, I don't remember,
and He's like, yeah, it never came out, but we
recorded a whole album, Like okay, wow, Yeah, everybody had

(01:04:00):
an album that was the thing back then. Whether it
came out or not, I don't know, but just in
case they needed it, they had an album in the
can for Walter. I guess, so I want to look
for that. Great if it came out, you could probably
get a hold of it. Was terrible, it would it's
so so far removed.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
I wonder if it was lost in one of those fires.
Took so many master tapes.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
Could put you like a knee or a nephew has it,
this is your uncle, Walter.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
But that's the other thing. It's like, if they had
it and there was money to be made from it,
you would think they would have seen the light of
day by Now. Why would you sit on that?

Speaker 5 (01:04:36):
Maybe they're just waiting for the perfect moment.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
I don't know what. How are you going to wait?

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Yeah? I mean he's been gone for maybe next year.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Okay, it's coming soon. They're waiting for a record store day.
It would be what a great record store day. That
would be like like a blue record with.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Like an orange and white stripe blue Walter Pete with
blue white kind of circle stripes in it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
I'd spend one hundred bucks on it or half the
whole thing look like his kangaroo's headband. Yeah yeah, I
mean there's a right way to do anything, all.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Right, real quick, I don't We're not going to derail
this to finding this. But I just looked on discogs
and I see Walter Payton doing it right. No, seven
inch and here's what it says, seven inch It on
one sided FLEXI disc Kentucky Fried Chicken nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
What so he did a he did a commercial for
Kentucky Fried Chicken or was it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
A giveaway or something? Oh, I don't know. You have
to find out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I'll have to find that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
How much are they wanting for that? The price is
on there?

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Crazy, Yeah, that's a lot one dollar nine? Oh, all right,
order it, let's buy it?

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
Yeah, yeah, I get it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
That's a no brain.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
Is there more than one? It looks like it, and
you get me one and I'll just give you cash.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Yes, sleeve is lightly crinkled.

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Just one. I just want one, just to make it rare.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
I hope it's the right Walter Peyton. It looks like him.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
You're not gonna go out there and say your name
is Walter Payton unless you're in no way v Walter Peyton.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
And it says nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 5 (01:06:12):
It's got you can't alright, only ones take a.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
Flyer on that will investigate.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
All right, Wow, back to Eddie, thank.

Speaker 9 (01:06:21):
You time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Did the o t at the end?

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
Yeah, that video took him three hours?

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
Yeah, top tops, so they had to get back to
the partying and fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
That might have been in real time. He walked in
there a four minute shoot.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Yeah, just a camera pointing each way. That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
I just some extra footage of the hangars on in
the control room.

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
Oh that was probably another band or you know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
You know, yeah, bands, artists have all their their their
entourages hanging out in the control room.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Mm hmmmm, all right, okay, that was that was different.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Hey, why you're on disc gog see if she ate
my assholes on.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
There, we've got it on mini disc. Got everything else.

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
It doesn't exist. I think it was just meant to
just really upset my buddy Mic and then it just
went away.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
And then I think you've destroyed it because.

Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
No, no, no, I did not because it's it resurfaced.
I'm talking when did it resurface? And I still when
I still had a mini disc player. I'm talking like
two years after the fact, because we had this like
Rolling vs. Eight ninety I think, is what we had
at the time. We were just recording stuff, right, and
the only thing that we had was those mini discscu

(01:08:41):
otherwise you'd have to put it on a CD burner. Yeah,
and then we were too poor for like good computers.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
And this was what probably twenty two years ago at
this point, yet it was forever ago. But no, and
I just I threw all my mini another one along
with my Spice catalog work gone into the vapor.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
We almost have I think we'd almost have to redo it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
I don't think you can't redo that. That was That
was a lightning in a bottle moment. The whole thing.
It's just it's similar to Andy and I when we
came up with the Michael Jacks and parody songs at
the Saint Thomas Moorefest. It was one of those one
of those things where like when you when you hear

(01:09:26):
artists say like, oh, I was just a conduit for it.
The music came through me. Oh yeah, it was like
we were on autopilot. Yeah, doing letting it go. You
can't you can't read, you can't set somewhere.

Speaker 5 (01:09:40):
I just don't know where it would be.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Well, see what you can do.

Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Don't consume yourself with it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:46):
But no. I gave three many discs to Ryan de
Young like years ago, and I think he gave him
to Eddie Jones. There might be some floaters at Eddie
Jones's house. All right, but then are we're gonna have
to do?

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
We know him?

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Is he related to us?

Speaker 5 (01:10:01):
But then how do we get the mini disc player?

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
Yeah, that's the other X factor anyway, Yeah, that was
a jam. I think we can all agree on that
because Nick, well, let's set Nick vote first, and he
can give us his thoughts on that version that you
heard for the first time tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
I'll give it a sweet surrender. Well, yeah, in a
weird way.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
It's a lot to digest for me, some emotional experience.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
For next it's a lot to well, I'm not choked up,
but it's a lot too. It's a lot to digest
and process because of the weird musical experiment that I
conducted twenty years ago, twenty plus probably years ago. Yeah,
but hearing it, hearing it for the first time, it

(01:10:55):
was it was cool. This was this was I'm glad
I got to do this on the podcast, to hear
it for the very first time ever, because I I
think I'd mentioned it maybe years ago that I never
heard it, and I thought, like, what if I accidentally
hear it at the store and I'm like, ah, I
just heard party all the time. It's never anywhere have
I heard this.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
That's pretty surprised.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
Yeah, I don't, I mind blowing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
I can't. I can't explain why that would be the case.
But this, this was my first time hearing it, and
it was.

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
It was.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
It made sense that Rick James was in it because
it had that sort of because he's what like mister
punk funk or power punk powerfunk, whatever you call it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
Currently the accepted moniker.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
So it makes sense with the you know, it's an
upbeat sort of a thing and it's got that the driving.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Rhythm produced it. You just have Addie singing it. So yeah,
it's gonna have it's going to be a Rick James joint.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Yeah, it's pretty cool, all right, Chris.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
Oh sweet, Surrender absolutely, Hell yes, absolute banger. And you
know you get past the novelty or the preconceptions of
the you know, this is the comedy star movie star
attempting music and it's gonna be a disaster. You gotta

(01:12:24):
call it like it is when you actually hear it
and be like, this is pretty fucking good, and it is.
It's great, actually.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Ben, Sweet Surrender or kick in the crotch.

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
I gotta go with Sweet Surrender as well. Hell yes,
you gotta figure. It's the same production quality when it's
Rick James number one. So anything he's gonna do. It's
not like Eddie sat there and like wrote the song
with him and said, yeah, Rick, I think this is
what we need to do. Yeah, you know, it's all

(01:12:55):
Rick James. So he totally pulled the producer fucking thing
on it and cranked out a little hit real quick.
I remember that, you know, that went really far, really fast,
and then kind of fizzled when it came out. But
I was able to lip sync majority you did. Yeah,
And I haven't listened to that song in such a
long time, so you know it's a hit if it
triggers the memory from fucking what thirty years ago still

(01:13:18):
in there. Production quality, Like if I would have ever been,
you know, had headphones on and that came on, I
would definitely not change it. I didn't realize that that
song is kind of like my Rick James version of
hold On by Wilson Phillips.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
Interesting, you just won't turn it off if it comes on.

Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
When it comes on, or like ate the Sign from
Ace of Bass, Like there's everyone and in a while
there's just songs that come on, like Human Behavior from
be York. There's just things that I won't turn and
I didn't know that that is a non turner. So
it's a sweet surrender because if that came on, I'd
listened to the whole thing, might even replay it in
my car and fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Drive around the block again in not ready to go home,
just sitting there, you know, I'd.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
Be like, let me listen to this one more time. Yeah,
this song fucking bangs, you know, yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
Does?

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
It's like listening to the Asia record. You know, it's
I can put that up there with the quality and
production quality it's but again, it's not that difficult for
the production for that considering how it's done. But Rick
James had the formula, and it's like it sounds like
very popular music. I mean, you got the dude that
did Super Freak. Now you're in his studio of doing
his blow and.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
Yeah, but five years later after Super Freak, he still
had the magic touch he did.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
He just needed somebody else to get it out there,
and he picked a star at the time who was
able to sing sense.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
But the other thing is, you know, artists give away
songs all the time that become huge hits for other artists,
and you're like, why didn't he record itself and record
it himself, And it's probably just like he didn't maybe
think it was that great, and then it becomes great
when another infusion of talent comes in and takes it

(01:15:01):
over the top.

Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
Right, Yeah, that's a great song.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
I will give it a sweet surrender as well. Hell yeah, definitely.
The first time I saw the video is just now.
Never saw that. Maybe I saw a clip of it
on like a Rick James behind the music or some
kind of Eddie Murphy thing.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
You would have remembered the hairstyle, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Yeah, unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Yeah, but heard the song before undeniable.

Speaker 5 (01:15:28):
Like a triangle, Yeah, flying buttress, like you just got
out of a just got out of a groomers.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
Yep. It's like one of those crocheted plant holders you
see that you just put a fucking flower pot in
and hangs from the ceiling.

Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
It probably smells phenomenal, though, I.

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
Mean, ain't all your sniff and when you're putting your
hair and your nose in Rick James's hair.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
Oh yeah, you're about to get burnt with like a
crack pipe or some shit, and you get a.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
Nose full of a lot of things, A bit really
hard in the back, you know, bit.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Was there a rodent in there?

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
Possibly get your asshole eating.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
All that stuff?

Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
Yeah, all that good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Unbelievable hairstyle he's actually that he actually stepped out of
the house with in this video, Like it's like the
Westminster Kennel Club got a hold of them.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Is like some kind of dog hairdoo. Being award winner
Ben is an expert, what do you think how much
is that possibly real hair?

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
I'm gonna say that that's definitely some wig weave. But
the thing that I noticed about the shape of it
is that it was like it was like architecture. You know,
it came out and it flared out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Yeah, it's like a prince valiant or flying buttresses underneath it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:50):
Flying buttresses. It would be like if you were to
lay like cocker spaniel ears just on top of each other,
several of them. It's several of them, and just went out. Yeah,
it's impressive, man. It probably it was on his head
tight too. If they sold it in. Yeah, oh yeah,
that's either sown in or that that year would have
been glued in. So yeah, he took one for the
team for that man. Yeah, you can't go swimming with

(01:17:10):
that shit. No, no, hell no, that's rough slide off.
But you know, he looked, he looked good. You noticed him,
He noticed.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Him for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
It is outlandish, but yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Know, outlandish hairstyles were the thing in the mid eighties.
Everybody had it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
That's true. That's a good point. All right, Hey, look
at this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
I got a question for you. Paul Stanley needs to
know if Party All the Time is a rock and
roll boner classic is voted by the four rock and
roll boners in this room, It's always up to Paul Stanley.
He needs to know. In nineteen eighty six, what was
he doing? Tears are falling me. Yeah, I think you

(01:17:55):
hear about He's like, should I do tears are falling?
Or should I do party all the time? What direction
should I take the band in?

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
Well, then he hears Eddie Murphy do a party all
the time, and then he's like, you know what, I'm
gonna do my way because I'm gonna I'm gonna show
the world I could sing in a high register too.
And that was a couple of years later, oh, maybe
one or two. Yeah, yeah, but maybe we've stumbled upon
a theory that Paul Stanley drew some inspiration from Party

(01:18:27):
all the Time for his Crazy Nights vocal approach.

Speaker 5 (01:18:30):
He had a conversation somewhere like this with other friends
of his every musicians and music for Cionados. He's like,
you know what, Yeah, I can do that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
Yeah, if he can do it, I can do it
right because he's just a comedy star.

Speaker 5 (01:18:43):
But we can just use real drums because we're fucking
a rock band.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Yeah, call Jay Leno, get him over here. We've got
a single to cut.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
He's actual Foley.

Speaker 5 (01:18:52):
I can do him in his Chinese lesbian woman's sweater.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
You know, I kind of liked it, Big, Big, It's
like he cut the collar. Yeah, big open it was
open neck. Yeah, kind of appropriate.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
I got like a big open neck thing on purpose.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
Is it just weird?

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
No, it's just how the shirt is.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Is it always like that?

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
No, it's just got buttons like it's got. It just
kind of hangs.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
Nick.

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
Don't don't compare your That guy I'm showing about Nick
is getting there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
I'm showing about the same amount of upper Torso bus.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
If you have the same bus line, that's what we'll
call it. Similar bus lines of Jay Leno. All right,
we need to vote here.

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
My votees episoltely.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
My vote is in Nick, and Ben.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Is your vote in let's see, mm hmm, mine is in.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
We do the same order would have been Nick, Chris,
Ben Andy?

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (01:19:57):
All right, straight through that way? Yeah, do you remember
how this goes?

Speaker 6 (01:20:04):
Ben?

Speaker 5 (01:20:04):
Okay, when it gets.

Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
To you, you're either going to say roll because you
think it's a boner classic You're gonna say no boner.
But you better not be saying the second morning. But
that's just my opinion. It's my show in my house,
I can do whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
I want, so, so I'm gonna give it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:27):
A rock and.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
Roll boner.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Yeah, yeah, yes, had.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
It would be crazy to come on, it would be fools.
Was this the last Rick James hit?

Speaker 5 (01:20:58):
Through Eddie Murphy?

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Though through Eddie Murphy, But I mean after this, I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
I'm not familiar with anything I could note that came
out after this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
No, So I wonder if at the time was Rick
James considered to be kind of over the hill nineteen
eighty five. Was it like, oh, we've moved on from him?

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
He was?

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
I mean five years is an eternity in the music business, Yeah, oh,
especially that genre. Yeah, fat and he peeked out with
street songs in the very early nineteen eighty so i'd
I'd say there was that presumption by a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
So I wonder if that had something in addition to
what you said that, you know, just the notion of
a celebrity, you know, oh, he's trying to sing, now
we've gotta shoot him down. I wonder if it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Oh, but that happened. It's in the eighties especially.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
You know, but what you know if it Janilla's had
a hit. I mean, but that was also considered to
be kind of a goof too.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
I guess, But I mean people were buying it right.

Speaker 5 (01:21:57):
Yeah, steven Siegill have a blues bay.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
We had an episode here we did a reggae song.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
He had a blues band for sure, though.

Speaker 4 (01:22:05):
A reggae song. It's not not kill the white people.

Speaker 5 (01:22:09):
But Stevens's got a reggae song.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Yeah, it's and it's as good as it's as good
as I never heard that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
Oh, you got to check out the episode.

Speaker 5 (01:22:20):
I'm trying to think what was it even called?

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:22:23):
The only one I was the ones that I've gotten
caught off guard. Tony Danza has like this like very
lounge record, the Macho Man. I mean you could listen
to that record be a Man record. Yeah, that's talk
about coke. It seems like if you did a lot
of blow and just had millions of dollars, you just
kind of put a record out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
So that album came out when I worked at Borders
in the music section and I got to play what
I wanted, So people were treated to the Be a
Man album over the loudspeakers.

Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
Yeah, the Stevens song is Strut Strut.

Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
That was the song on that one was very But
is it miss him missing one of his dead friends?

Speaker 10 (01:23:04):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
That was the I think that was the Hogan album
you're thinking of.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
There might have been more.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Was there one on the Matro?

Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
I think there was one on the Macho Man?

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
So he did a ballad too, huh.

Speaker 5 (01:23:12):
It was like a memorial Okay maybe yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
I think you're more familiar with the album by and
large than any of us in the room. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Wasn't fifty cent the Rick James of that album?

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
I think he was involved? Really, I believe I never
read it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:29):
I never went in.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Yeah with be a man, he was involved in some
capacity fifty Maybe he wasn't the producer, but he might
have had some either put it out with someone. I mean,
like he was involved for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:23:42):
Who wouldn't who would say no to helping modro man
put out a record, especially someone put out a rap
record like fuck yeah video yeah shoot the video today?

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
Yeah yeah? I can't argue that all right? And that
you know that had a record store, Dave, really no joke,
Like a year or two ago?

Speaker 5 (01:24:02):
What did the man on?

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Like purple Vinyl or something? Really? Yeah? And it was
kind of a sought after thing because they only did
a certain amount and the people who people who wanted
that paid a lot for it on the secondary market. Well,
you know, the collectors bought it and then on eBay
and stuff, they jacked up the price because there's only
like maybe a thousand or something that they made.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Yeah, So you're telling me that the modern day John
Walsh aka fifty was one of the people behind it.
Doesn't he have a similar was that Fifty Ways to
Catch a Killer or something like that? Isn't he the
modern day John Walsh? Or Am I the only one
who thinks so?

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
I think you're the only one.

Speaker 6 (01:24:39):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Never, never, No one knows.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
That America's most wanted guy.

Speaker 5 (01:24:45):
No, I know what that?

Speaker 4 (01:24:45):
Yeah, I know him fifause he's got.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
A TV show fifty Ways to Catch a Killer.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
I've never a murder or a killer.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Fifty doing now?

Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Wow, okay I saw him live once. Was good.

Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
It was a big concert. Yeah it was great, Okay,
I was happy, energetic.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
The Perfect Friend Written is a tribute to mister perfect
Kurt Hennick. There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:25:10):
Yeah, that's off to be a man record, right, yes, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
If you disagree with us, we're sorry.

Speaker 9 (01:25:18):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:25:20):
Now you get to hear Nick's career.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
It might be totally embarrassing. I don't even know.

Speaker 5 (01:25:26):
I was gonna be healing, But there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
This is perfect for today. Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
The world's not. But I guess I am to do.

Speaker 4 (01:25:36):
And you say you haven't heard this yourself in quite
a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Yeah, like, honestly, arrangement wise, I probably won't know what's
coming next in some spots.

Speaker 5 (01:25:46):
From the Flying Errand days.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Yeah, it probably would have been during that.

Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
Okay, good, Like this is your your solo record?

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
This was Yeah, this was a this was a solo project.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Ika.

Speaker 5 (01:25:57):
Were you working at Borders when this was written?

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Probably after?

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
As I say, did you play this over the thing?

Speaker 5 (01:26:03):
Where were you working when the song was recorded? I
just want to. I want to. I want to be
able to taste this when I hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
I didn't even know. Would this have been at the
home improvement store? Perhaps? Okay, I'm guessing.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
All right, let's do it. It's funkier. I think I
think you outfunked Rick James.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Well it see, the thing is is that he did
the he's doing the up tempo power funk and I'm
going more for like a seventies funk thing.

Speaker 5 (01:26:39):
We're on the on the down beat.

Speaker 4 (01:26:41):
Yeah, so you didn't have any knowledge that Rick James
was involved in the Eddie Murphy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
So I don't know to what extent, And to be honest,
I probably wasn't that familiar with Rick James' music at
that point anyway.

Speaker 10 (01:26:53):
All right, baby is not by any girl up my baby?

(01:27:15):
Don't bye do ever.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Be on a.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
This is the same song nail the lyrically.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Lyric Lyrically, it's pretty Uh it's on the same Yeah,
Jack bravo.

Speaker 4 (01:27:29):
That is like she just uh, this is a girl
who just can't can't resist the party scene.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
Yeah, I mean I guess lyrically, I surmised that correctly.

Speaker 7 (01:27:41):
You don't want boslet poetry. I'm not even sure if
she really wants me.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
Round.

Speaker 10 (01:28:02):
She only gets up just so she.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
I think we're going to the chorus. But that's a
good lyric. She only gets up so she can get down. Yeah,
that there should have been in the original Crowning Achievement. There,
that's a good one.

Speaker 5 (01:28:19):
You captured it though. Yeah, let's see you like the
opening band for like the Eddie Murphy when he played.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Like the bus boys could be nick. All right, let's
hear this chorus. I think it's coming.

Speaker 7 (01:28:34):
My girl wants to party all the time, party all
the party A.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
Yeah, yeah, yea.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
Party all the all the.

Speaker 9 (01:28:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
So whoever was singing this to you wasn't doing the
party all the time. No, that wasn't in there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
The party all the time, party all that time.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
I know, the world doesn't make sense anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
It's yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:29:13):
The circle of what a big circle that just got completed.

Speaker 9 (01:29:16):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Yeah, it's a long time in the making.

Speaker 4 (01:29:19):
I think if you took out the wah wah guitars
and did something maybe a little maybe just took out
the wah wah effect. You just kept that, get those
guitar lines in a little cleaner, getting devo vibes from
it a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
Okay, Yeah, I think this song kind of fits with this,
this description I used to I remember playing one time
with a couple of buddies of mine and it was
all like original songs, and some guy came up to
me he's like, do you like XTC? Like, I'm not
that familiar with them. He's like, there's like an XTC

(01:29:57):
vibe going on. And then I went and listened. So
then I'm like, Okay, I kind of see I'm hearing
I think I know where XDC is coming from.

Speaker 5 (01:30:05):
That's the mayor of Simpleton band, right, yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
Yeah? What was that other big hit they had?

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Reel by reel was a big one. I don't remember.
I don't know what their biggest song is, but was it.
There's a song about the Kennedy assassination, like Peter Pumpkinhead.

Speaker 5 (01:30:24):
It was called I Think I Saw I'm Live Too
once with the Smith of Rereenes. If that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
This is the one that's the video I remember seeing
all the time on MTV was Senses working over Time. Yeah,
that's a great tune.

Speaker 5 (01:30:37):
That's a great song.

Speaker 4 (01:30:38):
Absolutely, I'm hearing it. I think again, if you took
out the wild wa effect and just had a straight
guitar line, it would be even closer to that. That's
a great comparison.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Jackie said, this is so great. I love that this exists.

Speaker 5 (01:30:55):
Oh yeah, Walter Payton, this is.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
If only we could find she ate my asshole, that
would be the next level. We have to do an
entire episode.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
We have to listen to the Walter You have to
listen to the Walter Payton version first, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
And then finish it with a Yeah, Nick can do
a version of it based on what he thinks it
sounds like, and we can do another a B comparison.

Speaker 5 (01:31:23):
It's just a horrible story about my mic my buddy
Mike and his clock clean. Well, that's that's themers By.
Somebody was outside.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
It was in the car.

Speaker 5 (01:31:34):
In the car, yeah, him and some other dude man,
his buddy Bob. He said that he told me the
phrase that he was like, yeah, dude, she threw my
heads over my she threw my my, she threw my
legs over my head like I was having a baby.
That was part of that was another lyric over my
head like I was having a baby.

Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
That's the problem when when something like that happens to you,
you don't tell your buddies about it because they're going
to write a they're gonna to do something like cut
a fucking song, But you.

Speaker 5 (01:32:03):
Don't tell him in that visualizing of a way, just
like whoa.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
Yeah, you might want to keep that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:11):
To yeah like she was you know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
So that was unexpected for him. It wasn't something that
he was pushing this Mike.

Speaker 5 (01:32:18):
No, No, he might just thought he was just going
to go get some some mom ass and some Formers
Parking Lot. But he got more than that, man, he
got straight up cleaned. You know, yeah, you don't expect that.
Not that's such like I guess his buddy Bob too,
Like they were like wrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
I don't know when you would expect that. Maybe that
is the time to expect.

Speaker 5 (01:32:41):
Got your buddy in the car with you. It's both
happened at the same but almost like they planned it, you.

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
Know, craziness.

Speaker 5 (01:32:46):
Hey, Susan, yeah, Karen, you know, hey, why don't we
take those guys that was in the car just slip them.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
Over and oh so it was two women and two
yeah fellas, that was one moment and two guys.

Speaker 5 (01:32:57):
No, it was. It was like, yeah, front seat and
back seat kind of type of thing. It's just so
amazing that I'm talking about this, fucking crying. I'm not
even gonna tell my buddy to listen to this. And
I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna said I'm leaving
him nameless.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
We're not going to reveal last name. Mike is pretty innocuous.

Speaker 5 (01:33:17):
Still, so funny to.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
Remember that he was not pleased when he heard our
song his encounter. He's like, what are you guys doing.

Speaker 5 (01:33:25):
I think he moved out like pretty soon after that too,
and it was just you know, we're homie still, but.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
I might have been part of it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:31):
Yeah, there was a ripple.

Speaker 4 (01:33:33):
We say, we got hit with a bolt of creativity
and it just took over.

Speaker 5 (01:33:38):
We just needed amusive inspiration.

Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
We did.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
All right, next, what are you going to do here?

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
Who knows?

Speaker 7 (01:33:53):
I don't ask him, Wait for I give it us.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Whenever she wants.

Speaker 10 (01:34:13):
A way back around.

Speaker 7 (01:34:19):
My girl wants to buy Barty all that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, buddy, Barty Barty all yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
I want to stop it there because I feel like
you're forced to give us a bridge or a solo here.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
I don't remember what it was. I think there's an
instrumental Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
This is going to be I mean, totally off the rails.
I'm guessing.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
I'm hoping. I don't know, just because the song itself
just had like a dance sect, like a just like
an instrumental section. There wasn't a bridge, and there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Wasn't any other I mean, it's I don't remember how
complete it really is, but we'll find out, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:35:09):
It's kind of given me like a Ben Lee. You're
listening to Ben Lee? No, listen to that. Look, it
sounds like something that when it came out, like do
you ever listen to I'm gonna tie this into the
Beastie Boys ever listened to? Like money Mark, Like when
the keyboard players started making his own records and stuff,

(01:35:30):
and there was like Steve Cavallero had a record out.
It was just like this, wow, this this time and
music where just people were putting out these like you
could tell they were just cool people, but they were
like skaters or and the music came out from that.
It's it. If you take the the fact that you're
comparing it of what you thought, this is going to
be the weirdest sentence I think of it said. If

(01:35:50):
you take out the fact that you are comparing it
to what you thought Eddie Murphy Party was the time
sounded like and recorded like before you actually heard it
until today. If you take that out of your mouth,
out of your palate, and you just listen to what
it is that you're playing right now, it's either gonna
remind me of your going like shopping at the mall

(01:36:11):
and it's really warm in there, but you have to
buy something, or yes you are. You sound like this
independent artist that kind of came out like right when
all these other bands were doing cool stuff. So if
you take the Eddie Murphy thing out of there, you
don't feel like you're.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
There's a place for it.

Speaker 5 (01:36:28):
Oh, there's a way place for it.

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:36:29):
Like I'm like blown away that you did that like
twenty years ago. And the base is just it's it's choppy,
it's weird, but it's it's actually as somebody played this
for me right now and be like you need to
listen to this, I'd be like, you need to show
me what this guy looks like. I want to see
what it looks like. No, I think it's cool, man,
it's neat. It's neat that you have this from twenty

(01:36:50):
years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
Yeah, that's cool. All right, solo or bridge or neither.
Let's see.

Speaker 10 (01:36:58):
The all the tap Bunny, all the yeah yeah party,
all the dup Barty, all the tap.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
Party, my hammer home the chorus.

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
Apparently yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Yeah, yeah, why not?

Speaker 7 (01:37:53):
My girl wants some Barney, all the duck Barty, all
the tupty.

Speaker 4 (01:38:05):
I notice you have like an alternating thing going on
with the snare where one hit is like a higher
pitch thing, and then the next one is a much
lower pitch.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
I think I think it was just having a good
time with the old Flying Aaron's drum machine. I think
that's all it was.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
It's called excellent production using just just.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Goofing around with it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:27):
And then we're with that one section in there soundly
Eddie Murphy though kind of really yeah yeah, yeah you
went a little higher that time.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:38:38):
Yeah, you like it modulated?

Speaker 4 (01:38:40):
Yeah, yeah yeah. Were you using some sort of envelope
filter on the guitar or just straight wah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
The straight wah. Interesting, I'm pretty sure it's I think it's. Well,
it's double tracked vocally. I don't remember how many guitar
tracks there are, might be two, might be a clear
one underneath, and I don't remember. I don't think I
have the tracks anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
It's all flattened out forever. Yeah, all right, well, hey
we've got twenty twenty nine seconds. Let's wrap it up.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
I'm gonna get crazy.

Speaker 10 (01:39:16):
All yeah, yeah, yeah, Barny, Barnie, all the party, all Barty,
all that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
Yeah yeah, yet.

Speaker 7 (01:39:34):
All the deep, all the yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Yeah yeah, that was it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:45):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
I guess it was kind of complete.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Yeah, i'd say, so, yeah, okay, now what else would
you do? I don't Yeah, well my thoughts I so,
I'm sure you play that for me. When you did it,
like we said, it was a long time ago. I
hadn't listened to it. I don't know, maybe since then,
maybe once, I don't know, but I do remember after
listening to it, that guitar like middle section after all

(01:40:11):
the yeah yeah yeahs where you did that little guitar
part by itself, that was what stood out. I'm like, oh, yeah, okay,
I remember that, but the rest of it I don't
remember listening to it. So wow, it's pretty I mean,
it's it's a really interesting experiment that you did.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
It's it's it's really Yeah. It's weird that this idea
from twenty something years ago, and it's all guys that
I knew back then are now in the room together
and we're listening to it. Yeah, it's the first time
anybody's really hearing it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
So yeah, Bobby Ruth said, this sounds like it could
be on Yo Gabba Gab.

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
Well, Aquabat's probably probably somewhat of an influence subconsciously there.

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
You go, and he also said sweet surrender. So there
you go, Nick did it? Congratulations Nick, it's a chapter
in life. There's now it's the rest of your life?
Is the post party all the time? I guess now
you know what Eddie's version is like.

Speaker 5 (01:41:08):
I don't think you. I don't think you're going to
sleep tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
The phone will be ringing off the hook.

Speaker 4 (01:41:13):
I go, yeah, I think again he needs to take
a similar attempt that she ate my asshole.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
I don't see him doing it, but maybe I don't either. Yeah,
I can't imagine, but who knows. Well, here we are, Ben,
Let's look at that book one more time?

Speaker 5 (01:41:28):
Can I see it?

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
I I want to touch that thing, get my grubby
mits all over it. Look at that?

Speaker 5 (01:41:34):
Do you want to read a couple of sentences out
of a funny chapter?

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
Please?

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
Okay, cueue up the dirty living theme that's usually here,
the music we play when we read out of a book. Okay,
hold on, let him get that the background music for you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
Oh goodness, dirty dirty living?

Speaker 5 (01:41:58):
What chapter you read out of right now? We're going
to be reading out of the Let me find the
name of it. It's the transition chapter. Okay, it's the
Transition chapter right here, all right, hold on, It says underneath,
we are all the same people we were twenty We
were all the same people we were two thousand years ago.

(01:42:20):
We're just not as tough.

Speaker 9 (01:42:23):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:42:24):
Sounds valid to me.

Speaker 9 (01:42:25):
And we don't.

Speaker 5 (01:42:25):
I guess we don't need to be totally. We're not
being hunted in.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
That in certain ways, we don't need to be. In
other ways we do.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
Yeah, I don't think we have it. It's gone, alright,
turn under the Just a heads up.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
You said it's funny, right, yeah, it's gonna catch it.

Speaker 5 (01:42:44):
You don't have like that song just caught you off guard.
This is gonna catch you off guard. Okay, for sure?

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
Hmmm, just a heads up. The following might be the
gayest thing you'll ever read from me. When I woke up,
I was incredibly clear to my buddy, like really close.
Although nothing of a sexual nature happened, it sure as how,
it looked like it could have. We were spooning butt

(01:43:11):
ass naked in a tiny hotel room. I was terrified.
Should I continue?

Speaker 4 (01:43:18):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
Yeah, I was terrified.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
And then the next page has a picture of you
with Bill Clinton. Wait a minute, Yeah, where's this going. Okay,
is that the buddy and we'll find out. I'm not sure.
Yeah my finger yeah, my fingers were laced together just
inches away from his franken beans, but they weren't touching
anything they shouldn't. I am not gay, and neither is Andy. Oh,

(01:43:45):
I got We're both straight as arrows. We just happened
to be naked sleepers sharing a dollhouse sized room. Here's
how it went down. I was the first to leave
the bar, blackout drunk. I passed out in the hallway.
When I came to, I started banging on a door.

(01:44:07):
Let me in, motherfucker, let me in. Apparently I said
that oops, wrong door. The terrified person inside called security
After my idle threats, I fell asleep in the hallway.
Once again. Security showed up, checked my ID and I
realized I was a guest. I realized I was a guest.

(01:44:28):
Instead of arresting me, they sent a zeus of a
man to pick me up and carry me back to
my actual room. Continue okay. I briefly woke up in
the arms of a gigantic black man carrying me like
a baby down the hallway of a hotel. By the
time I got there, drunk. Andy had already returned to

(01:44:48):
sleep it off. When I woke up, I was kickstanding
his butt cheeks in a vertical direction. After some investigation,
which included warming up a towel and wiping my junk
with it, then smelling it to make sure it didn't
smell like shit. Benually, that's such an interesting technique. Yeah,

(01:45:14):
then checking the bed and Andy for any signs of
physical misconduct, baby batter, et cetera. I confirmed no gay
activities occurred. Looking back, I should have gone to the
hospital for alcohol poisoning. I rinsed off, dry heaved in
the shower, and got ready for the biggest hair opportunity

(01:45:35):
I'd ever had. Andy showed up just in time with
his can of hairspray, and the most star studded event
I had ever witnessed kicked off. Roger Waters, John Mayer,
Bon Jovi, Quincy Jones, Mariah Carey, Conan O'Brien, President Bill Clinton,
and a whole list of icons were there. My assignment

(01:45:56):
was simple, take pictures with a celebrity. There you go, Wow,
mission accomplice.

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
See and now I want to know how it went.
I want to know how it went. Your mission to
take pictures with a celebrity.

Speaker 5 (01:46:09):
Well, I took a picture. If you look in the book,
there's a picture of me with President Bill Clinton, and
then uh Andy.

Speaker 8 (01:46:18):
So.

Speaker 5 (01:46:19):
And then the other guy that was hired for the
job too, They told him the same thing, and he
got Dougie Howser.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
Oh nice.

Speaker 5 (01:46:24):
And I got the president of the President of the
United States after that story. But yeah, so that would
have been two seven. Okay, wow, two thousand and seven,
look at that. Okay, what was the event? It was
the VH one Save the music allak. I got hired
to do Roger Waters hair from Pink Floyd and then
I did. I styled the hair of an Israeli violinist

(01:46:46):
named Marie ben Ari that flew in. I had no
idea who she was, but she no idea who I was.
But it was the same bus. Okay, and but yeah, no,
I got to work on Roger Waters and fucking epic.
I got to touch his head, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
Was he nice?

Speaker 4 (01:46:59):
It was?

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
It's cool, man, Yeah, he was super cool.

Speaker 5 (01:47:01):
I thought about trimming his eyebrows, but I was like,
I don't want to funk with him. You know, yeah,
he knows it's Roger Waters. Yea, he knows what they
look like. Yeah, I'm not gonna It's like if.

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
Noel Gallagher came in and you're not going to mess
with his eyebrows.

Speaker 5 (01:47:13):
You're not going to make him look like a fucking
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:47:17):
American, just like a yeah, like a cut, get rid
of his you and a brow. Yeah, just I go
in there and just start ship like he doesn't know,
you know, and he's British.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
It's like, yeah, it's cranky.

Speaker 5 (01:47:28):
Yeah, who's this guy like shaving my eyebrows like a cholo?

Speaker 7 (01:47:31):
You know?

Speaker 5 (01:47:33):
Just line him up.

Speaker 1 (01:47:34):
Yeah, all right, Well, everybody please go by Ben's book,
get on that pre order. If you don't make it
to the pre order and you're listening to this in
the future, find it wherever you can find it. There
it is deconstructed And.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Ben, we're glad you're here.

Speaker 5 (01:47:50):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 7 (01:47:50):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
I don't I don't just mean in the sense of
being here on the show. We're glad you're here.

Speaker 5 (01:47:55):
Oh yeah, the same same. I've been listening to the
show since I've been on it. You know, it's as
I get all the updates and stuff, and I listen
to laugh my ass off. Now this is a good show.
It's uh. I love what you guys are doing and
you guys know your music and it's fun to just
kind of be a nerd and just go down the
rabbit hole and yeah, this is this is my Mystery

(01:48:16):
Science three thousand and my b and butt Head, you know,
combined and Wayne's world. It's everything I would ever anything
any a fifty year old old punk rocker would look
at his fucking winning the super Bowl. So thank you
once again.

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
There, glad to have you. I think you told this before.
But if people are looking for you on social media,
it's ben f and Malin.

Speaker 5 (01:48:37):
Yeah, just b E N F N M O L
L I N dot com and that'll take you to
my substack, and substack is the best way to get
a hold of me. Also on Instagram is ben f
and Malin as well.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
All right, so yep, so everybody, do it. Get your
credit cards out. Holidays are coming up.

Speaker 5 (01:48:58):
Give the gift that keeps on giving.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
Yeah, be buying, as they say, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:49:03):
So you know, no, that's what I'm excited, man, I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (01:49:05):
So yeah, hey man, it's a major accomplishment. Put out a.

Speaker 5 (01:49:09):
Book, and if the book does well, next time I
come over, i'm'll bring a mic stand.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
Oh sorry, I like it.

Speaker 5 (01:49:17):
You guys have these fancy setups.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
We're not used to it. You know, it's just a
three yeah, yeah, yeah, we're not used to it. We
didn't do guests for ten years, so it's a it's
an experience for us to uh, you know, get a fourth.
We can get one. We'll get one. They're not that expensive.
We'll be ready for you next time. How's that? Next
time you're here, We'll be ready for you. I promise.

Speaker 5 (01:49:39):
I like to hand. It makes you feel like like
like I'm singing in like a like Iggy popp Ors.

Speaker 4 (01:49:43):
Like a front man.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah right, well actually, yeah, there you go.
It works for you, it doesn't work for us. You
get the right look for it.

Speaker 5 (01:49:51):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
Vibe. Yeah, Nick, you got any jokes for us?

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
I could tell one if you want.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
I want a joke?

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
Did you did you get the sure?

Speaker 5 (01:49:59):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
All right, yeah, I'll joke real quick. Nick's jokes I
don't have too many, but I could bust one out.

Speaker 4 (01:50:04):
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
Hmm. I think it's time Nick tells us a joke
before we go home. We're gonna go home after this,
but hey, there we go.

Speaker 11 (01:50:13):
The jokes come out, all right, So my version of it,
we got a Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (01:50:30):
Don't mind the turkeys. Got a Thanksgiving joke not as
not as plentiful as the Halloween jokes. But yeah, anyway, Yeah,
we'll see. But this goes over, maybe there'll be more
next week. So I'll ask you guys quickly before we
wrap up. What movie do astronauts like to watch on Thanksgiving?

(01:50:54):
What movie do astronauts like to watch on Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1 (01:51:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:51:04):
I'm stuff man, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
The right stuffing, Thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (01:51:10):
What's wrong with you? Then?

Speaker 4 (01:51:14):
Damn?

Speaker 6 (01:51:19):
Are you insane?

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
And there you go. It's all downhill from here.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
I like you, all right, Nick, you have another one?

Speaker 2 (01:51:27):
No, no, not many?

Speaker 5 (01:51:28):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
To save him?

Speaker 5 (01:51:30):
You always keep it seasonal.

Speaker 4 (01:51:31):
Well, this is a brand new segment.

Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
Okay's got a joke.

Speaker 4 (01:51:36):
I got a seasonal joke.

Speaker 5 (01:51:39):
It's seasonal more towards the season.

Speaker 4 (01:51:42):
Woll okay sure and yeah, good that works.

Speaker 5 (01:51:46):
Okay. There's this penguin and he's driving his car U
in the winter in Colorado.

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
It's already fuddy and he is having some.

Speaker 5 (01:51:58):
Engine problems, so he pull is over and he has
to find a garage. So he pulls the end of
the garage and the mechanics like, yeah, you know, it's
it's all good. You know, it's not going to take
that long to fix. It looks like it's you know,
it doesn't sound that bad. But you know, why don't
you go ahead and take a walk. There's a little cute,
little downtown area over there, and then just come back
in a couple of hours and we'll see where we're at. Okay,

(01:52:18):
So the penguin's you know, I'm doing penguin stuff and
walks back over the guys working on a penguins car.
So the guy comes back and I'm penguin car's walking
back and he's eating this you know, he's got this
ice cream cone with him. And then the mechanics says,
it looks like you blew a seal, and he's like, no,

(01:52:39):
it's just ice cream.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
Ah, there it is.

Speaker 5 (01:52:44):
You're going there.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
You go one to share at the table in a
couple of weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:52:50):
Oh yeah, enjoy your turkey everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:52:53):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
All right, Ben, thank you for being here, product.

Speaker 4 (01:52:58):
Underest of all the success with the book, and uh yeah,
we'll have you on again sometimes.

Speaker 5 (01:53:04):
Sweet Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
Please all right by everybody, all rid partner, you.

Speaker 4 (01:53:09):
Know what time it is.

Speaker 6 (01:53:11):
Who we got tonight? Baby, that bold and b bold.

Speaker 11 (01:53:15):
And hold it that hold it, hold it, hold.

Speaker 6 (01:53:18):
It over, doesn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
All the driving?

Speaker 4 (01:53:21):
Hold? Hold and hold it hold and.

Speaker 6 (01:53:24):
You know you'll be loving this ship right here.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
Awesome, Bye everybody, Thank you,