#392: Libido Differences, Lonely Single Mom, Medicine and Digestion

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Term scene a coy pond studio.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
That's Whitney on next time for some pod therapy.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
We survived. They tried to stop us, they took away
our studio. They should Jacob twice in the chest. That's right,
we're still here. I don't even know who they were.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Jim can't die.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Brave.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
So yeah, no, I like this plan of starting our
own gambling mafia whatever it is, flashing gambling scheme as
a mafia. I suppose we're gonna make money in many
illegal ways. One of them could be witness. He runs
around flashing people. I don't know how we get money
on LA.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I mean if you came to my place of business
and threatened me and said, sure would be awful if
I came in here naked, wouldn't Yeah, yeah, I'd pay you, okay,
pay you to leave. This is okay, I'd pay you
to get out. Is this girl e stortion?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
That's fine. I don't care against it because it wants
to make money out.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, they're going to be a mob.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah yeah, I'm not worried about what kind of crying
it is. That's got to make sure pays. Okay, So
you just show up and talk seven to eleven guy like, hey,
look at my dick, and then he goes, oh my god.
You go okay, do you want that to happen again?
Pretty much? Twenty bucks forty and I leave for a week,
and then every week I come back forty a week
and you see me walk in here. I want to
see twenty on the count the counter immediately and then

(01:40):
I walk away.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
This is sure would be a same a shame to
see these ash cheeks up against your window, wouldn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
I really hate to have to work here every day,
and me, guys, this is not a bad idea. I
also think we should do the gambling.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
I don't think.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I don't think speered away from the gambling part.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
You got to have money to make money, right, So
like this, we start with the extortion thing and then
we roll that into booky business. If you would like
to find out why the fuck any of this makes
economic sense under the Trump regime, and it mathematically does
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Speaker 2 (02:12):
Starting a mob makes financial sense? Oh yeah, yeah, I
think would be bad at starting a mob.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Should we run this past the lawyers? Do you think
we should check on any of our legal team? I
feel like one of those things with the less they know,
the more plausible deniability they have. So it's one of
the things were like a wink and a nod, Like
Tony Soprano were like, I don't need to know.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Where this is watching the Sopranos have been watching it,
well time, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, we did a bunch of spoilers on that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
We did talk about in the pre show today about
how much of Jim's forty before forty list Whitney has done. Yeah,
and it's not sizable. It's not small. I believe it's
we're talking math earlier. I believe it's precisely one hundred
percent more than what Gym has done.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
I think that's how that works. I feel like it's
probably not correct. And also Laura seems to be.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Doing at doing awesome.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
So we're just, uh, Nick, how are you doing?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
How many time to Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Fifty before fifty it's a big number, though, that's a
lot of things. I got more time, so, oh, ship,
you got like more than six months?

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Six years?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
All right, that is a lot of time. Yeah, I'm
running out. I've only got six months left, but plenty
of time. I'll sort it out. Yeah, are going to
fall off the list, jem.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I do agree that you have plenty of time to
do the entire list.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Thanks buddy.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
I stand by my previous position though, and say that
you won't.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Okay. I feel like, yeah, there's like some support in that.
They like there's something like, hey, buddy, I believe that
you're able to Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the motivational poster
from Jacob is, oh you can do it.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
You're able, You're able to do this. You can individual.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
I want them to be a poster you are able
to do this.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
That's the chance. Yeah, you can do it, and Jake
is like, you can, you can't, you can't? Well know
you won't. Great, Well, welcome, thank you for sticking with
us as we go through our transition phase through studios
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She was like, you're gonna set up in the studio, right,
I said, yeah, So are you gonna make it where
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You could leave these out and you wouldn't even know
we were here. Oh, they're getting left out. They're going
to be left out. I'm not trying to do more
work than happen. So we've got some great questions for
today's show and leading off the order, differences in sex drives.
Hello pod Therapy friends, I'm a thirty one year old
woman who just met the best guy and we've become

(05:01):
official yoo. We have open communication, both emotionally intelligent, and
can talk about anything well. The other night, while we
were having a few beers, I asked him if he
wanted to have sex, to which he replied that I
have a stronger sex drive than he does. All right, fair.
I told him that I had been pressured in the

(05:22):
past to have sex and it always made me uncomfortable
and anxious, so I assured him that I would not
do that to him. He appreciated that confided that he
had also been made uncomfortable by past partners for that
very same reason. So here's my question. How do I
ask him for sex without feeling like I'm pressuring him.
I've sort of reverted to letting him drive when it

(05:43):
comes to initiating, but I also don't want him to
think I'm not interested because I'm not asking or feeling
him up for fear of making him uncomfortable. I'm deeply
empathetic to the fact that he just isn't as horny
as I am because that was me in all of
our previous earth my previous relationships. I would never want
to make him feel the way that I've felt. So

(06:04):
I just want to tread lightly. I also want to
get my fuck on, you know what I mean. Any
advice would be yes, you just said, not even a metaphor.
Any advice would be oh, we have a lot of
explaining to do.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
This is when when a pod therapy listener and their
partner love each other very much.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Or or just are drunk or sober coolerate each other.
Yeah enough, or it's a dark room and everybody's bored.
Any advice would be so appreciated from your collective reservoir
of knowledge. Love y'all signed, all Town, no pound solid.
Let's let's normalize signs like this. This is what I want,

(06:49):
like all Town, no Pound. I love punny sign offs.
This is really good. Yeah, disparity in libido okay, and
then but see this is tricky too, because I feel
like there's a good discussion in the internet lands about
various new flavors of sexuality that I think we're coming
up with better words to describe what turns people on

(07:11):
and what works them. So, like you've probably heard demisexual
sapio sexual like people are like, look, I'm not, I'm
not just always physically into it, but then I'm really
attracted to somebody that I'm close to and develop emotions for,
and then I do want to have sex with you.
I've also heard like responsive sexuality, and so that person
will say like, look, I'm never going to initiate, but like,
if you start to initiate, that does get me going

(07:33):
and now I do enjoy having sex. Yeah, but you
have to initiate that. But in Writer's case, it sounds
like that's a tricky situation because it's like, Okay, how
are you going to initiate this without it seems like
you're pressuring them and do they even want that?

Speaker 4 (07:45):
I know, especially with the history too, like the sensitive
histories from both people, I mean, and trying to be
sensitive to that can be tricky. What I liked that
I heard was that you both have really good communication.
And my opinion is that it doesn't just communicating about
something or bringing up a topic doesn't mean you're pressuring

(08:05):
anyone into something they don't want to do. So I
would say, like, when you're not in the mood to
bring this up with your partner in a way that's like, hey,
about how often do you do you feel like you're
in the mood or or yeah, do you do you
have a signals like, because there's signals right, Like as
you get to know your partner, it's like, oh, I

(08:28):
know if they like say this one phrase or it's
like a little like arm rub or I have friends
like say stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Or like invalid or what not. Elecatorian Victorian society, Like
they loosen their course and you're like, what a whore?
She wants it?

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Well, they show your ankles. She wants to see the ankles.
It's on, OK, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
I can see all of our ankles.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I don't know. Victorian also wears that ball gown, right,
and so I'm going to be comfortable. No, this is
we're not questioning anything very conservative. That's right out on
the streets. Though, miniskirt hiked up, you know, red lipstick.

(09:10):
I'm not at home, three layer ball gown.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I agree, though, this is a conversation that, Yeah, I
think it's a good one to have and just kind
of get an idea of like paint a picture of
what your ideal sexual relationship would look like for each person.
Being able to do that and then being able to
find a way to communicate that in a way that
isn't pressuring.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
That's tough.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I like the idea of being curious. I like the
idea of asking somebody what are your tells? Or like
do you have do you notice that you have any patterns?
Like are you the kind of person that when we
do have a couple of beers you loosen up and
then like, oh, are you the glass of wine person
that's like, oh, I didn't want to have sex, but
usually after I have one or two drinks, I'm now
seventy percent more into it. And like, but I think

(10:00):
that's what's so tricky is when you're being warned and
this I think this cross applies to so many people,
like if your partner has any history of sexual trauma,
this comes up a lot where it's like part of
our relationship, though, is meant to be this I have
you know quote unquote needs I desire you in our relationship.
I shouldn't have to apologize for those things. That's not
a predatory thing. We are in a consenting adult relationship.

(10:21):
That should be a celebrated aspect that we have chemistry
and that I'm into you. It'd be way worse if
I wasn't into you. But then like I can feel
like a villain, or I can feel like I'm hurting you,
and then you might feel pressured not to say anything
because that might be part of your trauma. Is like, oh,
I don't want to signal this, so just go with it.
It's like such a dangerous game play.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
It is because even if you so, even if you
communicate that message like okay, so these are the things
that kind of get me in the mood or kind
of turn me on, right then now as the other person,
then you kind of feel like, okay, so those are
the things I'll do. But how do you do those
in a way that doesn't feel pressuring?

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Right now? You're just doing you want to get laidy.
You're trying to get me going.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
The example of like okay, yeah, a couple of glasses
of wine, and it's like, okay, well, how many bottles
of wine did you get when you got grocery shot?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Twelve? Twelve bottles? We need twelve bottles?

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Now are we doing wine every night with every meal?
What are we doing? Like but then you can shoot
your shot? Okay, yeah, So I mean that's obviously an
extreme example. But then now let's say that's not the case.
And it's like, Okay, it's a weekend. We haven't had
a bottle of wine in a while. I'm gonna pull
out a bottle of wine for dinner.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
And then it's like, oh, he pulled out a bottle
of wine. Now I feel like I have to do something.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
And now I feel like, Okay, he wants to well
I don't want. I still don't want it, you know.
And there I don't know. It's a slippery slope.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
It is a weird game because like this is one
of those things. And I'm probably way off base here,
so I'm just gonna say that upfront as most probably
just straight fucking wrong. But I feel like, okay, so
all Town, no Pounds, seems perfectly happy, and it's saying, hey,
I get this, I am empathetic to this. I just
want to be a good learner and I want to
be a good partner. Great, I have no correction for that.
What I'm about to say does not apply to you. However,

(11:56):
I have seen these situations, and maybe it's an American thing.
It's different in the rest of the world. Sexuality, libido, appetite
feels like this thing that I think new couples or
dating couples, they talk about a little, but then there's
like it's very difficult to truly get a sense of
where people are at. And then this conversation comes up

(12:17):
and you've already connected to the person, like you've already
kind of fallen for them. We're already kind of dating.
And now they reveal to you I don't like sex,
and you're like, oh, in the beginning, you would. You
were gorgeous, you were throwing it at me. That was
a big part of our fires. Like yeah, that's a
beginning thing. Like that's how I kind of foster the connections,
how I build the chemistry. And the other partner's like, wow,
I no, I fell for that though. That's what was advertised,

(12:39):
and like that's what I bought, Like I thought that
was us and now you're telling me, oh, by the way,
that's not gonna happen. And it's weird whenever you ask,
and I just I see this in couples counseling a lot,
where like there's this resentment down the road and they say, hey,
we have a sexual mismatch and that was and nobody's
blaming anybody, but there's this argument of like, how do
we advertise that earlier in the dynamic? Like I knew

(13:01):
what you looked like, I could tell if you were
my type, I knew what your career was. All these
other things are presented to me. I know how much
free time you have, I know what your family commitments are.
I can simulate what being in a relationship with you
is going to look like. So I've informed consent on
every other area of our relationship.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
You even kind of get an idea of like their
finances right before.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Oh yeah, the sex.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Sometimes he's right, really yeah, Like you learn.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Early on up front have no money and we started.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Problem well, I mean like you're careful not to get
into a long term relationship and then realize that the
person is.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Three hundred and fifty thous debt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Know that's pretty fair.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Sure, yeah, or needs you to pick them up for
every date because they don't own a transportation, they can't
get Like, these things are all revealed as you're building
that first phase of the relationship. But for whatever reason,
I feel like and and again the writer is not
complaining about this, but I'm just looking through this letter
and noticing sometimes this isn't where you actually get feelings
for a person, and you get a few steps into
this and you say I think we're a thing now,

(14:05):
and then discover this kind of a mismatch. And I
don't blame anybody. I don't think anybody's being intentionally dishonest
about it. But it's just a curious part of how
humans talk, and like whether humans even have that internal
awareness and know how to language that or where they
feel comfortable with it.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
It just seems like one of those things that like
mismatches are much more common than I think we realize.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah. I think that's where the open communication that all
town talks about cound free.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, I really go back to us just kind of
looking at the question again, and what really stands out
to me is just that whenever you initiated sex that
one night with the beers, he said you have a
higher sex drive than I do. To me, maybe in
that moment, it's like, oh, okay, I'm getting the message

(14:53):
you're not in the mood. Let me like back off. Yeah,
but I can't help it. Go back to what you said, Jim,
where it's like, let's just be curious about this. So
if you were to revisit that with your partner who
seems emotionally intelligent, good communication, like that's the best case
scenario here, like awesome, love that because that gives you
an opportunity, in my mind, to approach them again and say, hey,

(15:16):
you know you mentioned this before, and what I've been
doing is just sort of letting you take the wheel,
letting you drive that that initiation. Is that okay with you?
Because I think back to what you're saying when there's mismatches,
like if you pull back all the way, then then
maybe they don't want to be the pursuer the whole

(15:36):
time or like you know, because that can be tricky
too well.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
And that's the other side of this equation is and
I love the writer is being super duper sensitive gold stars.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Right, I know that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Maybe a classy human being be super sweet about this
and saying out loud, look, guys, I really don't want
to cause any trouble for this person. I want to
be awesome to them. I want them to always be
happy with me. I think that's lovely. But speaking on
your behalf in ways that you're not asking me to.
But I'm noticing there's another form of harm that can
happen in this kind of relationship, right, which is like
I'm feeling rejected. I desire you, and it's unrequited love

(16:10):
or unrequited affection is one of the most painful things
humans can go through. It is the plot line of
many a story. Is like You're looking at this person
who you love and you value and you want intimacy with,
and they do not have that feeling for you. And
then this is where a lot of couples get to
where they're like, I feel like we're really good friends.
I feel like I'm your roommate and I love you.

(16:31):
I love you like family. I'm so close to you,
but we don't have this part of the triangle here,
and so like we're missing this and there's a form
of pain that I think that other person can experience,
and this resentment can open up of like if we
just take the position of I'm waiting on you and
you're going to initiate, then I could still see you
resenting me, because then when I tell you my cup's

(16:53):
empty and I'm hurting, I need you to make time
for me. Now you say, well, now I feel pressured
by you, and so I guess I'm going to initiate,
but really only because I'm compelled to. And at that point,
and this is me now bitching writer, this is a nothing.
At that point, I get involved in this and I'm
kind of like, why are you in a relationship? Like,
are you sure that's what you want? Are you sure

(17:13):
you're not just looking for a platonic friend, because if
you're out there advertising that you're looking for a romantic
connection in a relationship, but you literally have no interest
in this part of the three prong triangle of a relationship.
Go to our patreon dot com slash therapy. Go into
the directory. There's an entire series on the triangle. Theory
of love kind of goes over some of these references
of making. But yeah, at some point I kind of

(17:36):
look at that and go, are you looking for a relationship?
So I love what the writer's saying. Hey, I'm trying
to keep my side of the street clean, I'm trying
to be friendly, but I'm anticipating some ways that this
can get wrong where it's like, Okay, no problem, I'll
just let you do all the thinking and you do
all the initiating, and if they never do, what about
your needs? What about you know, are you a cad
for like wanting more than that relationship and them not
having that available? Is are you bad? Or like at

(17:59):
some point do we look at them and go, maybe
you shouldn't be in a relationship, like that's not what
you're looking for. Again, I realize I'm talking in my ass,
but like, I just see this. I see all these
different flavors in couples therapy, and it just makes me think, like,
of all the variations I could see this problem have.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I mean, I can see that there's a lot of
ways in which either party could take this and use
it against the other person. Yeah, you know, and just like, Okay,
well I don't want to be pressured. I feel like
you're pressuring me now. And then the other person's like, well, yeah,
I am a bit sure no because I also have
needs too, right, you know, and so like, I don't know,

(18:35):
it could get messy very quickly. The best case scenario
is hopefully the two of you can kind of sit
down and have an adult conversation about this and just
be open and honest about it without being willing or
without taking and using any of this as ammunition later.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I like that, Yeah, yeah, being very very kind about it.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
And like have this conversation when neither of you are
horned up, that is, if there's ever such time, Yeah,
some people, Okay, when both of you are less horned up.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
There it is yeah, yeah that helps. No, But I
like this point that we're making because like, sometimes I
feel like we talk about sex as if it's just
a mechanical thing. It's like working out. It's like, yeah,
you know, I just don't like to do it as
much as you do, Like, oh, I get it, and
you know, like I don't like slurpies. You know, like
it's just this thing that's like this objective third thing
that we're describing that's just a mechanism. And it's like, truthfully,

(19:24):
it's this feeling of that you desire me, and therefore
there's validation and affirmation in that, and that I have
value in your eyes, Like that's a human quality. And
if I'm with somebody that doesn't have any desire for
me and you just see me as your friend, that
is deflating. It's hurtful and isn't just a question of
whether you like the physicality of sex. It's a question
of do are you attracted to me? Do you do

(19:45):
you have that energy toward me? And is it bad
that I have that energy towards you? Am I always
going to feel ashamed or guilty if I'm bringing you
my sexual interest and you're rejecting me, or I feel
like I'm attacking you and I'm predatory for that. So
there's a lot here that I think a couple would
need to unpack. The number one ask that I think
that everybody was saying is taking that posture of curiosity

(20:06):
but also insisting on some clarification and not saying, let's
so writer. The thing that I am most worried about
for you is taking a wait and see approach and
just like, yeah, i'll get we'll find out when it
organically arrives. I don't like that because it could be
a system where it never organically arrives, and then you're
left wondering are you a responsive sexual person? Where I

(20:28):
need to kind of initiate, and it's this constant Russian
roulette of like, I guess I should try again and
see if this time it fires, and like, I don't
like anybody being that posture. So I think if a
person's going to show up to a relationship and say
I have either a hyper sex drive or a hypo
sex drive. Because you're out of the normal range and
you're aware of that, I kind of feel like it's

(20:48):
your responsibility to sit down, develop a lot of personal
insight and give me the user's manual and tell me
how to be a good partner to you and what
do you need from me? And what do you not need?
When would it work? When would it not work? How
can I tell and if I need more clarification, I
needed to be okay to talk to you about that
without that conversation itself being threatening, So that curious approach,
but a partner who's willing to step forward.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
And I think I think you can navigate the gap
between a high sex drive and a moderate to low
sex drive. I think where you have a big problem
is someone with high sex drive and someone with no
sex drive. Right, that becomes very problem.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Anything else you can kind of navigate some some sort
of answer, some sort of.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
And then if it's high sex drive with high sex drive,
then you've got like, how do we hold down.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
A job.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
You stay hydrated?

Speaker 1 (21:39):
It's a desert out that, how do we wash all
the sheets? Yeah, how do we avoid.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
The baby oil.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Baby Oil. Anyway, Writer, this is a really good question,
and you know, there's so many variations to this, and again,
I just want to remind the general audience if you
if you just listen to a through your regular podcast app,
you're not part of the Patreon community. One of the
things you're mostly missing out on at the at the
chat level and the discord is the conversation. I love
going into the episode descriptions in our discord and watching
listeners kind of dialogue over these same questions and share

(22:13):
their personal experiences and give that lived advice from different angles.
So many different people have chimed in on these kinds
of questions before, and people in our server have been like, Hey,
I am asexual. Here's how I would interpret that answer,
Here's how I do relationships. Very interesting, unique perspectives that
we would never think to say on the show. So
that's really a wealth of information to writer. If you're
not already part of that, I really hope you'll go

(22:33):
find it because I think that's great. But congratulations on
your new relationship, and I hope that you find the
correct amount of pound that you need.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Worst case scenario if this doesn't get worked out between
the two of you. Next time you're in Vegas, stop
by the studio and let the four of us pound.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah. Are we offering episodes of this?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I wasn't going to say that.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
I was going to say, yeah, you know, mediate, but
that's fine to mediate run a train. Look, we're here
to help what people accuse us of some ship, all right,
And as we told the judge, your honor, we're just
here to help. Time for commercial, That's right, We're gonna
take a quick break in when we come back, we
are discussing struggling with loneliness. You're listening to pod therapy.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Today's episode is Brassy by Jake Schneiders, Leiah Richard Macy,
Sonny Boy, thunder Kruger, Falcon scoopk, Mother Pucker, Sanderla Gabriel,
and Adam Lauren. Would you like to sponsor the show?
Become a theraproducer a Patreon dot com slash therapy.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Today's trivia theme.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
I'm gonna try and cheat.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I know, I'm gonna turn this over. Our trivia theme
it is Nick America Marca.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Fuck yeah, coming to save the motherfucking day, all right?

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Jim, Yes, this state is the only US state with
a Spanish state motto.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I feel like you're hiding geography bullshit under the banner
of patriotism, and I'm upset about it.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
State you asking you to locate it or what it's
major river.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
It's going be like American history ship or something cool. Well, okay,
so it's a Spanish named state.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
No, it's a US state. It's the only US state
with a Spanish state motto.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
States have state mottos.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Like Nevada has, like, oh yeah, all for our country
something like that battle Born or something.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
It's one of those.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
All right meets Nevada. All right Spanish? I mean, so
you got Florida down there or the other one's New Mexico.
I feel like that's pretty okay, give me New Mexico. No, definitely,
I would like options.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Uh you could have had ship.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
I would like options, which damaged All for our country
is the Nevada motto? Okay, a the one that Jim said.
It's definitely not New Mexico.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Right, shit, b Vermont, it's Vermont, Montana. It's obviously Vermont, California.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Take Vermont. Ooh, I'll go California.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
No, okay, windboll.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Fell for the same trap. It's where the white.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
People live Vermont or Montana, Montana, damn Montana.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
I cannot give that.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
What is the motto, Nick, Yeah, the motto it's the
motto with you, which means gold.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
It was like gold something. Huh.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
So I thought plaza just meant plate I think that's plateau.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, plata, Okay, I think a plateau is the like
a mountain with the top cut off.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
That's no. No, I think that's the.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Animal with like the bill.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yes, somewhat, the aquatic mammal.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, yeah, plato found in found in Montana.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yes, that's yes, exactly, Jacob.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yes, the historic Route sixty six ran from Chicago to
Santa Monica, California.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
True crossed how many states?

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Take options options five six, seven, eight five six Where
from Chicago, Illinois to Santa Monica.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
California to Chicago.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
I didn't think I would have gone that.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
It doesn't just hook.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
I thought it was just a Texas or something like
it probably didn't.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Eight eight.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Wow, well done, all right, Whitney. In what year was
the thirteenth Amendment abolishing slavery ratified?

Speaker 1 (26:37):
False?

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (26:39):
I just saw this or not? Too long ago. I
guess options act.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Like you're watching documentaries.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Eighteen twenty one, eighteen sixty five, eighteen eighty eight, eighteen
ninety two.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Goddamn, yeah, just shoot, just shoot from hip.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
She's trying to cheat eighteen ninety two, Your son of
a bitch.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
No own to the laptop she just looked at. Or
she's staring at your dis looking at your dick or
the laptop. Either way, it's not really my business, but
I'm upset if.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
It's the first to look at a glance over, just
in case a little dick.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
All you up?

Speaker 4 (27:13):
But that was the one.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
You can cheat on? Beat.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
I don't give you ship. Do you hear that?

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Peer?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
This is about trivia. It's all about Triviady's taking a
less money each year.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Of this game.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
It's more important than anyone's relationship.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
I don't want to hear otherwise.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Okay, I'll be damn you cheat on me.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
You gotta guess?

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Oh what was what did you guess?

Speaker 4 (27:36):
You don't.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Eighteen twenty one, eighteen sixty five, eighteen eighty eight or
eighteen ninety two give.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Me sixty five? Yes, yeah, go watch your Lincoln.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
That's how you know that.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
I don't watch what I was going to put. I
watched not like four sixty five sixty six, but then
I was like, no, I know my audience.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, exactly, Jacob's guys, it's not going to be ultra competitive.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah. I only know shit because I watch movies. That's
one hundred percent of I know.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Thanks God, I got that one.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Are you even myself?

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Love shit?

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Struggling with loneliness, Hi, I'm struggling with being lonely. I'm
thirty one. I've been broken up from my son's father
for almost a year now. Our son is three and
special needs suspected autism, and he's non verbalish. He's just
got one word right now, and I'm his primary caregiver.
His dad gets him once a week. I moved a
city away from my friends and family to be with

(28:34):
my ex when we were dating, and I stay here
now because my son's pre K school is here and
his babysitter and his dad. I have three close friends
I've had most of my life, but they all struggle
with mental or physical health issues and aren't able to
talk or hang out a lot. I feel bad bothering
them with my problems because I know they have so
much going on, and half the time when I go

(28:55):
to talk to them, they aren't available, which I totally understand.
I have a therapist I see and she's wonderful, but
she's not a friend.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Of course.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
I've tried to make new friends but haven't been successful.
I'm not interested in dating. I lean on my work
mom and work dad a lot, but sometimes I feel
bad if I overshare. I have a pretty tight schedule,
so it's hard to make time. And while I do
see my family some I find myself very lonely. I
find myself wondering what people I watch or listen to

(29:25):
would think about my problems or my day. Like you, guys,
I guess I reminisce a lot about my past and
have imagined conversations with people I used to know in
my head. I don't really see an end in sight
to my loneliness. I'm trying to just work on myself
right now and try to be the best mom I
can be, and try to remember those positive changes in
my life as I see my son improve, as I

(29:47):
lose weight and eat healthier. I just can't escape this
feeling of being alone. I feel sad and isolated and
like I'm really just talking to myself a lot of
the time. Do you all have any advice? Thanks for
having a wonderful podcast. Truly do make a difference. Sincerely,
Anonymous pronouns are she and her and PS if possible,
save this for one. Whitney's going to be on really

(30:07):
like her advice. Oh, no accounting for tastes. I guess
it's fine this. So we were all discussing before recording
that this sounded super familiar. So at a minimum, we
know we've had a question in the past that rings
a bell about this. We're hoping we didn't reread the
same question from the past.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
It's also possible that we've seen it when it came
in and shuffled yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
And then because so we're also very inet is what
I'm saying, we're well oiled machine.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
I'm hearing mistakes made.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Okay, we need to make her do this ship. Why
are we doing anything? A production assistant and she just
sends us the fucking.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Script Patreon dot com slash therapy you friends like whatever, whatever.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
I barely got on the Patreon like a few months ago.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
So this writer specifically wants your advice on so as
also a woman with no friends.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
You know, wow, wait to call me out. I was
gonna say, call me.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Be my friend, Paton, Right, we'll be friends.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
I know. No, this this whole like loneliness epidemic. I
mean not to sound cliche, but it's a real thing.
I think being an adult moving to new places that
in itself is happening more than ever, like just moving
away from family. And in this case, you were trying
to you were with your ex at the time, if

(31:39):
I'm reading that right or hearing that right, So you
were doing this for your family, and then now you
have a child together, you can't just I mean some
people can't be.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Legally, probably can't. But also resources are there.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
For the kids exactly. Resources are there for your kid
that needs them and is comfortable in the space they're at.
So it would probably be a big deal to upprove
your kid. And so you're kind of duck a little bit,
is what I'm hearing. I mean, when it comes to
making new friends, I kind of want to go the
route of normalizing for half a minute. I mean, you

(32:10):
have a three year old, like you're in somewhat high
needs three year old, potential special needs. I mean that
is tough. That's like a tough It's already tough for
even friends of mine that move out of state, move
to another state. We'll chat every now and then, and
they're like friendly people, like very friendly, outgoing, extroverted people,

(32:30):
and they still struggle to make friends in new states
for quite a while. I remember when I moved to Nevada,
it was really challenging to like make friends, I would say,
for a year or two, like it just offut. I'm
very off putting. I get people's space. I smell funny,
so that doesn't help either.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
It's just not good aggressive.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
I know, God, is that what you always meet behind
my back?

Speaker 1 (32:57):
It is? We tell you when we're doing that, it's
front of your face.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
So I guess a part of me I think even
said this and there you know it won't it won't
last forever. I mean, things will get better. I want
to just say that there that this sounds like just
a tough time in your life. So that's like just
the start of like what I have to say. But
I mean, we have the go to advice we share

(33:30):
I think a lot, which is like, oh, you know,
go to meet up groups and all this stuff. The
number one thing I hear from clients that I work
with who are struggling with this is it's just a
lot of effort. It's so much effort to put into
creating a friendship and you're not sure if it will
pan out, or if they'll call, or I hear this

(33:50):
a lot like, oh we were we were getting on great,
they just like kind of ghosted me, or you know,
just I don't even know what I did. It's rough
out there, So so I just want to throw out
there that it is a lot of work to put
into creating friendships, creating connections, and if you're in a
space where maybe you have a lot of other things
going on, this may not be the era. Like just

(34:13):
for now that you're able to do that. I would
also say, like whatever for people with kids, Jim, you
can let me know if you have any input on this.
But at least to got dogs, you know what, this
is fair for dogs? You go you don't take your
dogs out of their house.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Though it's a very neat.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
They're introverted docs.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
They're just a lot, They're a lot. I'll just.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Well, what I was going to say was like, I
don't know, connecting with people like at the park, or
you know, since since your child's a lot younger, or
maybe through his class or their classes, like your kids classes,
if you have other parents that know you're going through,
you can kind of connect on that. And I hear
that with clients I have with children with autism or
who are on the spectrum, it can feel extra lonely,

(35:02):
like I'm just going through this trial kind of on
my own, and because every child's so different, so I
have seen for them, like going out meeting others who
are kind of in similar situations.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Support groups for parents of children's special needs. Right, there's
a lot of mommy and me groups, yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Are sometimes What I hear with those is that it
gets very it becomes very much about like I don't know,
like the struggle of each individual kids, rather than the
adults connecting the right.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Always about the kids. Yeah's true, we're not friends so
much as we're you'd have to get past that.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
I'm not saying it's impossible.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
You have to.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Like, I have a few friends that have kids with
special needs.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
One one good friend of ours, she has a son
on the on the spectrum, and uh and like the
whole the whole nine, Like did the in udro testing
and everything and everything came up negative and then the
thousand to one shot and yeah, all the stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, just real time, real tough, over and over again. Ed.
You know, just a great, great kid.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
But you know, she finds a lot of friends in
other special needs parents because they have a real understanding
of what her day to day life looks like. Right,
So when she says like, you know, hey, let's make
plans for Saturday, Uh, everyone is aware that those plans
are very tenuous at that. Everyone just knows that. Everyone
just has that information already. There's no explaining any of that.

(36:26):
It's just like, yeah, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna hopefully
do something on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
I think those groups are a great jumping off point. Yeah,
Like they're a great plump place to meet people. And
then from there then you can kind of decide which
ones you kind of click with and kind of start when.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
She kind of practice for putting yourself out there and
making some friends and everything.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
I mean, just in general, I think when it comes
to just making friends, even if we're not talking about
being a parent or even being a parent of a
child with special needs, but like just making friends in general,
I've always found that the best way is being environments
where you're around people in situations where you don't set
it up or you don't schedule it. Okay, you know,

(37:07):
so like, you know, I made these connections because we
were always at the same place doing the size.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
We keep bumping into each other.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Yeah, like I don't we don't have to call and say,
hey let's go hang out or hey let's go do this.
I just see the same.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
People over and over.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
I agree, and then from there it's like, oh, hey,
I'm going to do this thing. You want to come
with me, and then you kind of start forming relationships
that way.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, I want you to rewind your podcast machine just
a few seconds when Nick first started talking about it,
and I want you to assume that Nick was talking
about the glory Hole.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah, we're talking about the gloryhole. That was such an
interesting descriptions. That's where I meet everybody. You're gonna you're
gonna make me actually listen to one of my want
to you know, this is really good advice. I like
this idea of like making Yeah, the glory of course,
that's where the number one social lice. It's the old,

(37:57):
the old glory whole gloryhole where I meet everybody. No,
but I like this idea of like meeting people incidentally,
meeting people in this like ancillary way that you're not
targeting them, you're not one on wanting, but you're sort
of like gathering. But I also think what's interesting is
like our definition of friendship. I don't I can't know
if it's changed through time.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
I feel like.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Older people tell me that friendships have changed over time,
and I feel like that's the general critique of like
the Internet age, is that everything has changed as far
as how deep our relationships are. And maybe it's a
lifespan thing. Maybe it's not generationally, maybe it's an American thing.
Maybe it's like our friendships when you are younger very
very important and like they're very deep and they're very like,

(38:38):
you know, even though you might not know everything about
this person, like you put a lot of connection energy
on that person. And maybe part of adultification is like
slowly just like I feel like in my world, I
was just put my daughter to bed this this weekend
and we were chatting and she was like, oh, what
are you doing? I think it was last night and
she's like, what are you doing tomorrow, And I said, oh, yea,
I'm in a record and sort of doing. And she
just got curious. She's about ten, and she's like trying

(38:58):
to get all your names right.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
She hears me talk about you, but not a lot,
Like I just say, oh, like I'll be tell my
wife like, oh, I'm gonna go to the bar with
Nick afterward, like okay, cool, and so like that's about it.
So my daughter's picked up your names over the years,
and so she just like decided to ask questions about you.
And so she's like, so, which one's Nick? You know,
like tell me about that. And it's like you've met
mister Nick, you know. And what do we do with
Jim brings his daughter to work there?

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, I did that once and Nick has forbidden me
from ever doing it again. The agreement of pod therapy
rests in this one agreement.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
No, I think I think now would be better your
kids are older now.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, yeah, Nick and I. Over the years, we've established
two agreements to continue pot therapy. It started with he
agrees never to beat me up, and so that's also
why that's never happened. If you like, what's the deal,
Like how is he never just caught a fist? That
was an agreement? And then the other one happened several
years in whenever I brought my kids once to a
recording because we were stuck on time, it just had

(39:54):
to happen. It did not go well, And and then
afterward Nick was like, so that's the second agreement now,
and now the first one is contingent.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
On the second.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
I don't want to catch Yeah, these amendments have been
the second amendment of second.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
If you if you break that other amendment, I'm gonna
have to learn how to throw fists just so I
can break that other one.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
You just fake it long enough to scare me. It
don't work. I think I'll cry.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
The fear of thinking it could happen.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
That's most of it.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Once I throw the first one and the open not
that bad, that's all right.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Wait a minute, I could take three of these. It's
like a kid like fearing the deep end of the pool.
I've been afraid of this this whole time.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Fun My daughter was asking about you guys. I'm like
going over. You're like, okay, so the nick and blah
blah blah. And she's mostly interested in how many pets
you all have. So I'm like, ohm, going Jacobs, because
does he have dogs? I'm like, yeah, you have dogs.
They're like corkies. I think it's like, okay, what are
their names, like funk? I don't know. They're nice dog definitely,
I definitely not I said they were, so I lied
to your daughter. So yeah, I'm explaining what animal interactions

(41:01):
if you have, because that was the most interesting thing
about each of you. In her opinion. The ducks thing
was a big thing. She doesn't have ducks. She has
ducks in like an illegal way.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
The ducks have her. Yeah, the relationship.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
I don't know that she has a possessive over them.
But no, It's just funny because as I'm talking about
each of you, then my daughter goes, do you have
any other friends?

Speaker 2 (41:24):
And I was like, I don't.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
First off, I don't like your tones. You know, I'm
like immediately tearing up, like what do you mean? I
don't know what that one other is doing. I was like, well, yeah,
you've you've met mister Eddie and she goes, yeah, you
like grew up with Eddie, right, and like yeah, she
goes yeah, But I mean, like other friends.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
You're like all of your friends is mister and missus
to your to your kids.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
I don't like my kids referring to people by their
first names, so I like them to try to get
the mister or miss in there when they can. If
they talk about you to me, I don't mind using
a first name, but I don't like them getting in
the habit in case they you know, see you. But anyway,
so if sir, yeah, no, I don't yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
as my children know, no content look in the eyes.

(42:04):
He doesn't like that.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
But no.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
It's just really funny because she was like, yeah, do
you have any other flaws? I don't know, not really,
And I'm just sitting there thinking about it, and I'm like, yeah,
you three are probably my closest friends, mostly because we
have a shared project that I see you for two
hours week and that's the only job.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Because we're supposed to explain to your daughter that this
was the reason that you were very afraid that we're
gonna not have a studio in person.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Why are you crying about the studio there? Do you
even like your podcast? Like, no, I don't care if
it closes tomorrow. Just I just really just don't want
these guys stuff hanging out with me. But no, it
just really made me reflect on like the concept of
deep friendship and like that that like I imagine like
you have these like perimeters, like these little circles around
you of like how intimate your friendships are. And it
for you three to be told you're probably my closest

(42:54):
friends is I'm sure a little off putting for you
because like we're not close, Like what are you talking about?
Why would you use that word?

Speaker 3 (42:59):
And it's like you notice we're all shifting in our chair,
everybody's you all start checking immediately started checking their phone,
trying to wait for this moment to pass, Like is
he gonna shut up, He's gonna move on?

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Can we go back to the question now? But no,
just it ring in my ears for a second because
I realized, like we are not very close, but that
is the proximity between me and thewhere if I said
the closest body to Earth is Mars, You're like, but
that's not a close thing at all.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
I'm like, I know, I'm ready. I'm ready to go
to top golf whenever you want.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
But no, I think that's an interesting part of how
friendships it adapt and like going back to Whitney's point
where I think Whitney was trying to normalize, like, hey,
you have a three year old kid, like, I don't
want you to feel like an outcast. I don't want
you to feel like you don't have friends. And I
think that's the route I'm trying to go on this
circuitously to get back to this point of like I've noticed,
I think, and I don't know if you guys relate
to this. What do you feel like? You're pretty good

(43:53):
at friendship? I feel like you always mention friends that
you're legit staying in touch with I have. I feel
like you may time for friends. I'm fine.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
I make I feel like you got a lot of
friends with Most of my friends are golf friends with
a lot of friends too, with the exception of my friends.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Back home in Iowa and me.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah right, and you that was there that Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
I was there.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
You know else.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
You and I were talking the other day about how
you organize your like not really, but you with your
friends over here. I'm like, look at the doing being
a friend.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, and when I don't do it, they don't happen.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Exactly. You got to have one person yeah, yeah, that
person one person.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, Like I'm not that person. I'll never be that person.
You'll go, I'll go. See I'm the guy that will
if you call me, I'll go. Thanks for inviting me, right, Jim,
He'll pretend like he's going invited to Coasta Rica by
Eddie is like I will pay for everything. I was like,
I don't want to. Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Bugs.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
The reason I'm going to Portugal is because somebody was like, hey,
we've got a house, come stay in it.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
But great, perfect Portugal.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
You should look saying Okay, had a scorpion in the
house the other day.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Not just in the house, Uh, in Jim's chair that
he it was in Jim's chair.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
It was directly over Jim's head.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Is he looking at me? Uh? No, I was in
the shower and uh felt something on my back? You did,
and like reached back and brushed it off, And it
was definitely a scorpion that.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Had somehow like knuck into the shower. He had a
towel around his waist. He put his hand on your
shoulder and you're like, what the fuck.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
So here's my bet. My bet is he came in
through the attic and he can't go up there, and
there's like an air vent that seems high they climb.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
I don't do they.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
In palm trees?

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Oh no, well yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
I didn't know they were seeing one on a shower
curtain before, just in the middle, like, yeah, oh.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
That's terrifying. I thought they were kind of just grounders,
like they're not as like climy as some things.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
They will if they need to.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
I don't think of them as like spiders.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
No, they're not.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Okay, they just they can if they have to.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Medium sized guy. Oh Jesus Christ, he got smacked with
a towel. Okay, did you do the whip?

Speaker 1 (46:29):
You did the No?

Speaker 2 (46:30):
I just kind of like spiraled it right. It was
just quick like brush him away with the towel thing,
one quick smack on the ass. And then I was like,
s J, bring me a shoe, yes, which is not
a weird thing to ask. And the usually when you're
in the shower this again there show only the one.
She comes in there and it's like I've got house

(46:52):
shoes on.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Will that work? So no, bring me a shoe.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
And I'm not looking up at im, like I'm looking
directly and never look away because we have of rocks,
Like our floor in the shower is all rocks.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
You could lose them, that's it.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I was like, if I take my eye off of him,
I'm gonna lose.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Yes, we saw this, so she brought the shower.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
Giant thing on our wall. It's a uh that's our
garden hose. This bug was like two and a half
inches long. It looked like a water I don't know,
but Peter. Peter's like, I go get me a shoe.
That's what made me think of it. And I was like,
I don't think you can kill that with a shoe.
That thing's big, Like you're.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Just gonna piss it off. Yeah, and it's gonna come back.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
So he got a box and I scooped it and
he's like, thanks for doing that. I couldn't have. He's
such a whist with bugs.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
I'm like to give me so anyway, writers spray for bugs.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
We just had the house sprayed the other week, and
I'm like, I don't know, y'all got to come back out.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Usually our surface is really good and inside though inside.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
A little maybe I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Well, that's why the bugs go inside because you're sprayed outside.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
That's what that is.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
He I just said, he sprays inside.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Not enough. We'll get to getting in there.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Go ahead, okay, So here was My other piece of
advice was for my friends at are long distance because
the writer said they have like two or three friends
they're close with that live far away and your schedules
don't align and all that. One of my favorite apps
is Marco Polo.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Oh do you know this app? No, not a sex app.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
Oh, it could be. Depends on who you're bowlowing you.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Exact mental personal training? Do you enough?

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Always a number? You're gonna have a spike and I'm
going to retire.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
PI.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Turns out I was going about this all wrong.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
It's cardiodio. No.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Marco Polo is a video app where you record a
video and send it and they can watch it whenever.
It's like Marco polo or whatever. You know.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Okay, But what's great.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
About is you can do it anytime of night and
then they can just listen to it or watch it
whenever they can and respond. Like one of my cousins
who lives in Colorado, like we'll sometimes go wild without talking.
Then we'll have a little Marco polo back and forth
for a minute and just update. But it's kind of
nice if you're in that weird in between where someone's
super busy and you just can't get your schedules to

(49:23):
the line.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Right.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
I love it because you get to see their face.
It's like FaceTime, but just little videos.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Not live. You don't have to stop the call, so text.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
But the video text yes personal, Yes, I like that.
And it's it has a free version. Obviously you can
pay for like other perks, but it's free. So I
love that. One that helps me stay in touch with
my friends that yeah, live far away on different time zones.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
So yeah, And I think one of you had the
advice is Nick was talking about like finding a common
interest and like aggregating around that, and the writer talks jokingly.
They tease themselves in the letter about how they've done
a little bit of parasocial bonding to us, you know,
and saying like, sometimes I feel like you guys are
the only ones that I would talk to, Like I
imagine what it's like talk to you, because I feel
like I listened to you and I get to know

(50:09):
you and we're part of these friendly conversations and like
to me. That is one of the coolest parts of
the new age of Internet relationships and stuff and parasocial
relationships aggregating around a podcast. Yeah, like a lot of
the people that we are just Nick and I at
least or me personally that we are just friendly with
wet or we've met through ICs, ice cream social just

(50:29):
being invited to their in their live things like scoop
Fest coming up this September. Dot com buy your tickets
is a great way to meet real people and become
friends with them and then we talk to them on
the discord and just become like longtime friends. And then
when they're passing through town, they'll just ping us and go, hey,
I'm coming to Vegas. Independent of scoop Fest, Uh, let's
grab a beer, let's get together, let's go to dinner, like,
you know, just want to see.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
You guys for something. Do you guys remember last week
when Jim said he was going to come to the
Bucket show. Yeah, yeah, what a great show.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
It was good. There was so much improv and I
thought the bucket so many bush the buckets, you know,
there there's a primary bucket, but then there's support buckets,
and I felt like they were all the piano wing
was very pianoful. I just uh, I was, yeah, so
thank you. It was very good, good good. I thought

(51:19):
you played excellent piano. Thank you and uh and trombone
and you guys really should have been there. It was Uh.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
I actually did put it on my lendar. I was like,
I'm gonna go. I went to bed at nine o'clock.
I was so tired of it.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I think, Yeah, I was in the post July fourth
that kicks as I was like, yeah, I'm not going
anywhere tonight. Jim needs a full eight hours going to
bed early. But I think that this is a very
relatable thing writer. I mean, obviously, so many humans talk
about this all the time. I think trying to find friendships,
especially during this phase of life with a special needs
child but just a three year old where they just

(51:55):
constantly need you and it's hard to find that time,
and then being a single parent not having that relief.
I just think there's a lot of layers to this.
But I just want to be an encouraging voice, I mean,
and also normalize you know, digital relationships. And we've been
talking about this for a while. We need to get
somebody on our discord to be the official game planner
and get somebody done because we we When I mentioned

(52:16):
it in a previous episode, there's a bunch of people
in the discord said, Jim, do that thing. Like you said,
you want to start it like a game night, and
like here's how you create events, and the Discord people
were trying to tell me to do it. The mistake
they made was trusting me to do that when I
just shout ideas into the void and then if that's
how we have a discord is because I shouted the
idea of the void of Monho built one. It's also
why we have a website. There's a lot of things

(52:38):
that get done because.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
We see don't do them.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
People are like, okay, they're way too incompetent. I'm going
to do this for them. So somebody please on our
discord create a game night. This person needs to come
join it. Patreon dot com, slash Therapy. For a dollar,
you can be part of our little online community. It's
a great group of people. Good place to talk is
show with folks and we have a lot of chat
room in there. You can turn on your video you
can play video games with other people. It's a lot
of fun, so at least that be one outlet for you.

(53:01):
But thank you for writing in writer. Just know that
we're rooting for you. And I'm sorry that we uh
waited for Whitney for this one. I'm sure you were underwhelmed.
Which is you know, want, want, What are you gonna do?
We're gonna say quick break and when we come back,
we are talking about psych medicine and temmy problems. You're
listening to pod therapy.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Today's episode is Proughty by Jake Schneider, Malia, Richard Macy,
Sonny Boy, Thunder, Cougar Bucket, Scoop, Slipper K, Motherfucker, Sander
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Speaker 1 (53:40):
Before just patreon anything and just give them what I
was gonna open whatever.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
God damn.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Jim America.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Which state was the first state to grant women the
right to vote?

Speaker 2 (53:55):
They can vote?

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Jesus at least in one states? Explained much? All right,
I'm a big fan of women's suffrage. Many options, Wyoming, Vermont, Okay, Wisconsin,
Who or South Carolina? Shit?

Speaker 4 (54:15):
I wouldn't get any of those.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
I feel like the year was nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Was top of the shots. Beanie babies crushing and women
give me Vermont. I feel like that's super progressive plays.
I feel like they would be way ahead on this ship. No, God,
what damn it, Bernie, you fucked up again? And I
promise you he was there, of course.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Yeah, Jacob, what were the options Wyoming, Vermont, Wisconsin or
South Carolina.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Wisconsin? No, wow, don't it's not gonna be South Carolina.
Let's be real, it's.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Not that Wyoming was the other.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Guest was the other he took Wyoming.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
I think wisconsu wom Jesus doesn't seem.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Like it's it, though I could see it happening because
maybe there were just so few people there, like the
women could stay a coup and get the vote.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
They were just like to have their fun. It's not
going to matter like we're Wyoming.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
You know. That's a point for next eighteen sixty nine.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Wow, it was the summer of sixty nine. Jake all
tied it one.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
Now, Oh yeah, all.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Right, Jacob.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
The Eighteenth Amendment to the US Constitution prohibiting the manufacture
and sale of alcohol within the United States was repealed
by which amendment?

Speaker 1 (55:47):
It was the eighteenth that did it. I think it
was the twenty first. Oh that feels they got rid
of it twenty one and it's the drinking age.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Shooting from the best two points.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
God love it on.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
A week later and history, I'll Gooho, history is the
perfect combination.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I know, right all right. Whitney Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Born in Eiling, Nevada. She served as the first Lady
from nineteen sixty nine until her husband resigned from office
in August. On August eighth, nineteen seventy four, Oh my god,
we need the first name. Missus Nixon will not be accepted.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
I was like, Nixon is it? But what's her first name?

Speaker 2 (56:31):
I didn't know she was from Eli, Nevada.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
I didn't know that. Options.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
I know that he went to Whittier College.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
Yeah, I didn't see that.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Okay, what it's a college in whitty Or California. That's
where Richard Dixon went to college. That's where his presidential
library is.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Explains a lot.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Elizabeth, Patricia Caroline or Ellen.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
Oh boy, it's one of the first two. I feel
like trying to see if Jacob will give me ah.
I don't know the first Elizabeth or what.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Was Patricia, Patricia, Patty Nixon, Lizzie Nixon?

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I think Patricia?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yeah, correct, damn dude. So wait, you've got three and
then got like eight? What you have three and then
you have two? Because you've been two and I've got
one and Nick has one?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Has four? Nick?

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Remember when when it falls to Nick, he gets like
a huge rule gets one.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
I think I think he's right.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
That's nobody's ever said that's right. I don't want it
to be nobody thinks trying to lose you.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I just don't want to.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Ship Nick, and I don't care. It's like medicine and digestion. Hey,
Pod Therapy crew, first time writer here. I've been listening
for a couple of years now, and I really appreciate
all you do for mental health. My wife, my Way,
who I'm just gonna start doing that, whom I love
very much, she might be listening if this is read,
has been on several medications for different mental health conditions

(58:06):
for almost as long as I've known her, which is
a couple months shy of twenty five years now. Wait,
maybe it's been me this whole time. Nice say, and
with the shortage of questions, she wanted to ask if
there is any notable information or perhaps studies on the
longer term effects of mental health medications on the digestive system.

(58:27):
That's all for now, keep up the good work, Anonymous. Nope, sorry,
there's not never been any research.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
It'll be fine. Just take some probiotics.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
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Speaker 4 (58:41):
I'm still using those drops still, I still have a sample. Well,
I was gonna say, I just bought some from Costco
because I was like, I like those peters like me do.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
So she's been on the medicines as long as writer
has known her for twenty five years. Yes, and then
I suppose that the tummy stuff just started. I mean
I don't see any reference to how long the tummy
stuff has happened.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Well, well, it sounds like something you're just curious. Yeah,
and you know, basically just asking like, is that is
it possible that that's just a long term effect? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (59:12):
Well, and I feel like the gut health is like
very it's trending a lot right now. I'm not like
it's wrong, but just I think it's becoming more talked about.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
And aware of it.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
They're very aware and some people I've even seen, I
mean I don't know the source or if it's reliable
or anything, but I have heard people say like, oh,
it's just like your second brain or whatever, you know,
like they refer to it like that. So I wonder
if there's just a connection there. Maybe the wife is
going through where they're like, well, I've been on these
medications to help my actual brain, Like how does this
affect my gut health?

Speaker 1 (59:45):
And okay, all of that.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
I mean, that's kind of how I hear maybe this
question being presented.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
And I think it's tough too, because usually I'm looking
for the short term, right, because like we're adding this
to your system, that's usually when we're going to see
a disruption. For somebody to be on medicines for two
decades and now they're starting to notice a tummy disruption,
it's tricky because any medicine that you're taking for decades
of time, yeah, there can be some They could have

(01:00:13):
had some small mitigating effect that compounded for every day
for twenty five years, and now your stomach lining is weak,
or there's some kind of like biochemical thing that's disrupting.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
I mean, I'm not gonna say that I've seen the
research on this, but usually I'm going with short term disruption.
Long term that would not be my guess. If we
have any pharmacist listeners, I think there's a sizeable pharmacy contingent.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Why no, we got at least one one. I don't
know medications ever change any ingredient that's not like one
of the main active ingredients, but is something else that's
in there as like a you know, something else that
provides some other future for the medication.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
You know, just as like a like did this medication
that she's on suddenly get like chemistry the recipe?

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Yeah, yeah, a small ingredient change that just changed.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
I wouldn't think so. I wouldn't think so either.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
But I know that there's medicines like like take prilosec
or on dancetron or whatever for indigestion, right, and so
like heartburn, that's one of those ones that you can
take in the beginning and then if you if you
stick to it long term, it does end up having
like a deliriative effect on gut health and bones. Like
you can start to get osteoporosis because but it's like

(01:01:31):
one of those medicines like, boy, you have to take
that for a long time and really really regularly. But
it's one of those medicines that you wouldn't notice any
disruption short term, but then long term, sure there are
some you know, baggage attached to that. And when it
comes to like it's tough because like, psych medicine is
such a broad brush, right, Like we're talking about everything
from your casual antihistamine like hydroxyzine for anxiety, to an

(01:01:54):
antipsychotic you know, like a lanzapine or something like that,
and these are all having such different mechanisms of action.
I mean, anything taken for twenty five years, I think
there could be an argument that it's starting to cause
some kind of problem.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
Sure, yeah, there could be a risk for that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
I've never seen a particular research study on it. I
know that SSRIs are one of the most longitudinally tested
medicines we have, and that just means long term testing
over broad broad numbers of people and is generally the
safest medicines because people are generally on them for a
very long time. Yeah, very long term. We've had them
for a long time. So SSRIs are widely celebrated. But

(01:02:31):
no medicine is without you know, its recourse, and if
you're on something for decades, is all right?

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
Yeah, I mean I don't know about digestive health. My
mind immediately went to sometimes the long term negati effects,
negative effects that can happen from yeah, like antipsychotics or
like bipolar medications, things that people tend to be on
for long periods of time, but not really a lot
of digestive reactions.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
That's not something I'm Yeah, I've not worked with anybody
that's had digested.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
No problem.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Of course, most of my clients are withdrawing from heroin,
so I.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
Don't they're digestive, Like, I don't know, I'm sweating my
brains out, shut brains out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
I want.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Something, is tell memmy feel something.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
For a while.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
But like some of them are long term stuff like
a XANX, like xenic springs. Oh yeah, some of those
ones that long term, there there are going to be
some noticeable things like cognitive impairment, memory loss, and things
like that. So I think the safe bet, writer is
that there is no medicine. I think that exists that
you can take regularly for decades and they're not over

(01:03:56):
time be some accumulated effect. And I think the stumach
and the digestive tract for many of us is this
black box of like so many things affect it, and
like you see, like the weather, effects of pressure affects
it like this, too much seasoning on this thing affected it,
and they could really mess you up. So I wouldn't
be surprised if long term use of these medicines are

(01:04:17):
affecting it. I would also be checking in on things
like supplements. I feel like a lot of times people
don't even report whatever supplements they're taking to their regular
doctor because the doctor says.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
What are you on?

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
And they just tell them the orange bottle and the medication. Yeah,
And it's like, dude, you need to tell them everything,
every multi item in how much fucking zinc are you on?
I remember my dad, he was God. He thought he
was having early on set, like very severe arthritis. He
could barely close his hand, it was, he was in
so much pain. Everything was just really really bad. And
my dad's like, ironically, you wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Know this looking at me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
He's an athlete, Like he's like a tennis player, like
he's always I was a very big disappointment to my dad,
if you're wondering. But yeah, so like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Because of that, let yeah, let's dive into that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Let's do you know what things, Let's let'sp on this
this question.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
This is just now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Fifties, and like he still had a very active lifestyle, basketball, tennis, bowling,
he was so many things, and then like he just
couldn't move. And it'd been going on for months, andything
worse and worse and worse, and he'd been meeting with
all these doctors and these specialists and they're all turned
figured out and they're like, yeah, I guess you might
have arthritis when you start talking about like very serious
medications for arthritis. And then one day he's randomly at

(01:05:25):
a doctor's obvious he's trying a new doctor or might
have been like an endocrinology or something like that, and
they're like, what supplements are you on? First doctor to
ever ask that. Yeah, And my dad is like one
of those guys that like as he'll fucking order ship
from India, like he just anything he's heard of that
he thinks is cool, He's going to try it, right,
And he was on like eight gajillion milligrams of vitamin

(01:05:45):
B because he had heard something on a podcast. Yeah,
and they were like, oh, that's it, that was it. Yeah,
that's why I have that many milligrams of vitamin B.
Or you're going to have inflammation of the joints vitamin B.
You're just overdosing on this, and so like, stop that,
don't take any for a month, let's see what happens.
And a week later he was perfect. He's like, Oh,
I just got back my whole life. It's like, these

(01:06:06):
are little things that we don't think about. So if
your wife's going through all this digestive stuff, just a PSA.
Always make sure you're discussing every vitamin. They are not
just benign. Any adults, you need to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Don't take the don't don't take the medication that you've
been taking for a couple of decades.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Off the table as far as as potential causes could be.
But look past that as well. Yeah I like that,
And don't forget to go see a therapist. We're gonna
take any quick break and when we come back, we
are wrapping up the show. You are listening to pod therapy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Today's episode is Brought to you by Jack Schneiderlie Richard Macy,
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got more America trivia, I myself okay, Jim who was

(01:06:54):
the only US president to also serve as Chief Justice
of the Supreme Court?

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Oh my god, Warren, No, wait, that was a Supreme
Court justice. I'd like to start again. Uh, this person
was a Supreme Court justice and president. There was a
person who was president first and then left. It's either
Warren Harding. Part of me thinks it's Roosevelt. But then
I'm like, that can't possibly be true. But then part

(01:07:21):
of my brain says it is true, but it's not true. Jim,
don't believe that. Give me options, John Adams, James Monroe,
William Howard Taft or Calvin Coolidge. Fuck me, none of
my thoughts were on there. Let me Taft Well, I
was really hoping that was coming to me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
I fucking knew that, And I had to build a
bigger bathtub for him in the White House because he
was fat, really fat fat.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
The world.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
They've never seen him. Facts that I know about Taft
and Supreme Court justice.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
I was seen the thing going around about like comparing
people in their thirties back like fifty years ago. People
in their thirties now you look at it just like infants.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Yeah, just crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
They lives.

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Go fetch their own, all right, Jacob. Which states other
than Texas was an independent republic before joining the US California,
Oh final answer, yeah, no, oh, options, Okay, Vermont, California, Florida, Oregon.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
At least I was in the options. You're that's close
enough to make the options. Boy, it's the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Worst when you get it wrong for the listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Options.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Listeners are screaming, whay, but Hawaii was a kingdom.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
Oh that's fair, yeah, listener, way to read the because
you're right, it was conquered. You said the other ones
were Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Joined in the traditional sense?

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
They were? They were they joined in the American way.
Yea very American, he.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
Said, Florida, Oregon, Vermont were the other ones, Vermont, Florida
and Oregon. Yes, Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
No, every answer, have you noticed that a lot of Vermont.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
It's gonna be orgon a lot of Definitely, they're doing
their own ship.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
God, they were independent. It's definitely organ. It's gotta be.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
You're alive, am I, And you are? And you never
had rollers?

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Son of a bitch?

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Did you say? What was your answer?

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
I don't know?

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
God.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Options again, four options are Vermont, California, Florida, or Oregon.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
You know California was guess.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
I don't know what Whitney said, it's organ Jim give me.
Vermont is Vermont formerly known as the Vermont Republic from
seven teen seventy seven to seventeen.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
I thought Texas was the only one, all right, Whitney came.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Which Texas with Texas thinks they're.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
The only one.

Speaker 4 (01:10:07):
Yeah, well that's the message. That's what our history both says,
because we make up the history.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Yeah, which we fucking false flagged the ship out of Texas.
My daughter just had to do a book report in Texas,
and she came to be horrified because this is the
first time, at fourth grade that she realized maybe America
is in an honest place. Texas teacher is from Mexico
or families from Mexico so the teacher was very carefully explaining,
like remember that almost stolen from my people. Yes, not lying,

(01:10:35):
not embellishing, making sure to not fucking whitewash. Yeah. My
daughter just comes to me like broken, and she's like,
America did bad things. And I'm like, that is like
the only bad family that the rest of the there's
nothing else to learn that happened, and now we're here
like nothing else.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Luckily, that's the worst thing that ever happened in Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Yeah, damn it, all right, Whitney, which US Supreme Court
case established judicial review?

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
Oh boy, options? So I can just randomly go.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Uh dread Scott versus Stanford plus Y versus Ferguson, Marbury
versus Madison, or McCauley versus Maryland.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
No, dang it, Marbury versus Madison.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Yes, one point, very good, give me more clueless trivia.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Three points.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
I've got more. I'm going to run through these real quick.
We've got time.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Okay, here we go, rapid fire. Jim, what is the
twelfth Amendment? Establish options? Establishes that the vice president is
elected together with the president rather than the runner up
as the president in the presidential election. Prohibits excessive finds
an excessive bailuh, prohibits the denial of rights to vote

(01:11:52):
based off of race, color, or previous condition of servitude,
or prohibits the revocation of voting rights based on the
failure to tax.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Vice President.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Hey, yes, yeah, I'm in the lead, Jacob.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
What was the name of the US plane plan? Sorry,
plan to add Western Europe to aid Western Europe after
World War Two?

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
I want you to know I was all set to
say the Aola Gay. Oh yeah, if you had stuck
with what plane? You still can?

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
I was ready for a NOLAA You still can?

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
What was the plan? Yeah? The plane that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Dropped the bomb on which one? Little boy? The first one? Hiroshima?

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
It was Hiroshiba, but I believe that was fat Man. Okay, yeah, yeah,
that is the plane that dropped the first nuclear bomb
on Japan.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Yes, what what was the plan? The plan to aid
WES Western Europe? What was What are the options?

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
Triman doctrine, Monroe doctrine, Marshall plan, Eisenhower doctrine. Oh fuck me, uh,
that would be the Eisenhower No, true, this one, Whitney,
I know that Truman.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
No, Marshall plan. Marshall Plan is a Marshall plan. Fuck
old day. I am so fucking American in this bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Al right, waitney here, we got a last one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
We just fucking sweat freedom.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
The twenty seventh Amendment, delaying laws affecting congressional salary from
taking effect until the next election of Representatives, was proposed
on September twenty fifth, seventeen eighty nine, and took How
long before it was ratified?

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
How long did it take Congress to pass a law
which the pay raise for congress options twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Years, one hundred ninety five days, sixteen years, fifty six days,
twenty three years, two hundred and ten days, two hundred
and two years, two hundred and twenty three days.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Still is it done?

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
And I guess the last Yes, Yes, Yes, propose on
September twenty fifth, seventeen and ratified on May seventh, nineteen
ninety two.

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