August 7, 2025 • 29 mins
On this episode, Alex Bozich is joined by Josh Pos of Inside the Hall, who is on location, to discuss IU's exhibition win against Universidad de Bayamón in Puerto Rico.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Welcome back to a new episode of Podcasts on the
Brink Thursday morning, August seventh. Indiana victorious on Wednesday night
and it's exhibition opener down in Puerto Rico. Josh Post
of Inside the Hall is on the scene for us.
It's gonna be actually your first introduction to Josh hereon
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podcast on the Brink. But if you've been follow on
the site for the last what month or so, been
writing some football content and getting going strong now with
basketball as well. Really happy to have Josh part the team.
Also happy to have him down in Puerto Rico. Before
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We really appreciate that, Josh. It was not a close
game obviously last night, but first look at well, second look,
we can count the open practice that we were at
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a couple weeks ago, but you know, first look, in
terms of game action for Indiana basketball on Wednesday night,
what was what were your impressions from the game and
just big picture takeaways.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I think it started right up. First of all, I'm Josh,
nice to meet everybody. I'm glad to be on inside
the hall this year. I'm a senior. But my first
impression was right when we got to the stadium alex
It was full warm ups from the get go. Usually
last year we saw just shooting around till about the
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forty five minute mark. No, there were drills going on
all the way up until Indiana went back to their
bench with about a minute left on the clock. So
that was a start right there. You could feel something
new was there, and then the game there was just
an intensity despite playing what I believe people called the
equivalent of an NAIA team, the intensity from the jump,
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from not only the starters but the guys that came
off the bench. The big picture, the score didn't matter
in this game. It was what you saw from individual
players and how they came together as a team, and
I really liked what I saw. Obviously, it was August sixth,
so it's gonna be hard to make any predictions based
off an August sixth game exhibition in Puerto Rico, but
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overall very good defensively and turning rebounds into fast break layups.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So obviously I only saw the video that you posted
in some other video highlights that were on social media,
But having kind of been on one of these trips
of four back all the way back in twenty fourteen
up to Montreal, I can remember going to five different venues,
I think, in six days watching Indiana play exhibition games.
Not a lot of fans made that trip. I was
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thinking that there might be a stronger contingent of IU
fans down at this destination because it's obviously a beach
and it's the time of year where people would like
to go on vacation and get away and get in
the sun. Kind of similar to twenty twenty one when
they went down to the Bahamas and played a couple
of games. But just from judging what I saw on
the background of the videos and just the atmosphere, didn't
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look like there was a strong contingent of fans down there.
Was that surprising at all? Anyway, What did you kind
of expect going in and how did that match up
with reality of what you actually saw in terms of atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I expected a little bit more, but then I realized
after talking to Zach Osterman, that school has started in
the state of Indiana, so it's hard for people to
bring their kids down for a family vacation. To make
it an Indiana basketball family vacation. There are a couple
sprinkled in there. It was a lot of varsity club members.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
There was an event for them with food and drinks,
and they kind of went to the to the court
side seats and then people filed behind. I think from
what I could hear, when a guy would score, there
was a lot of cheering. There were families that came
as well, made that a family vacation as well, families
of players that came, but really an empty gym with
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the only energy coming from the Indiana players. You from
your vantage.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Point, you were just a little bit elevated up in
the just up in the stands, like within the regular seats.
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yes, we had regular seats and we had a regular ticket.
I wish I had it on me right now.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, you were. You were multitasking very well there. I
wanted to point out everybody if people had asked this
kind of what to expect in terms of the coverage,
Josh was keeping stats, which he pointed out to me
before we hit record that he was upset that he
missed a couple rebounds and assists. But we did get
a fit. We didn't no, I think before the game
that we were going to get official stats, So I
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know you wanted to keep those just to kind of
have an idea of something to go off when you
were writing. But you're also holding your phone trying to
get as many video clips as possible in addition to
posting updates on social media. So good job there. I
wanted to get just some of your thoughts on players. Obviously,
I want to caveat all of this with this was
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August six, This was an exhibition game. This was an
over clearly overmatched opponent. But I think we can at
least glean some observations from just what you saw in
terms of players and maybe some style of play things
in terms of how things were running offensive and defensively.
But I want to start with Trent Sisley, who you
wrote about for this morning on Inside the Hall. Obviously,
Trent's a name that a lot of people are familiar
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with because he was recruited for quite a long time
by the previous coaching staff signed with Indiana under Mike Woodson,
the coaching change happens. He is solid as you can
be with the program, sticks sticks it out. Is obviously
now a freshman on campus. Spent last season at Montvert
Academy down in Florida after playing his first three years
of Heritage Chills, and I think, just from talking to
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Trent in the spring, really used that year down in
Florida as a development year in terms of getting an
opportunity to work in an atmosphere that's much more college
like than what he would have had back at Heritage
Chills and play against the national schedule. They traveled around
the country, played a lot of great teams, and while
his stats didn't jump off you know the paper when
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you looked at him from a senior season, definitely showed
some growth. Shot the three ball really well. Is last
year of high school, and it looks like that translated
to last night's game where he went three for three
from deep, but started a little bit slow, but once
he got into the swing of things, played really well.
Was Indians leading score last night. Got to talk to
the media. Don't see that very often for a freshman
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in their first college action. So just you your thoughts
on Trent how he looked, And obviously I don't want
to look into projections in terms of how much well
he played, but do he look the part of a
guy that can maybe help Indiana the season.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
He not only looked a part of a guy that
could help Indiana this season, he could be a guy
that leads Indiana at some point, maybe not the entire season.
And again it's August seventh as we record this right now,
but he got off to that slow start, but then
hit that first layup off a great feed, and then
the next possession after a defensive stop or right wing three,
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didn't even graze the rim, and it was game on
from there. He think he came out late in that
first half, and then in the second half he exploded.
I think it was sixteen second half points. He made
both of his threes, six to nine from twos, He
was seventy five percent overall. He had the most field goals,
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and he didn't just dominate offensively. He was a presence defensively.
And it's hard to be the four at his size
in the Big Ten play in college basketball. He had
no issue with that against this team that probably didn't
have it. They didn't have a guy that was over
six foot four, So Indians Biggs had everything going for them,
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but Trent Sisley sharing the ball, rebounding the basketball, defensively,
and in most importantly offensive explosion in game one, and
Darren DeVries said, that's a pretty high bar. He said it,
but it's good to have confidence for the freshman.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
As far as Lamar Wilkerson goes, I didn't pay too
much attention in terms of his final stat line. I
looked more at the fact that the amount of attempts
that he got up, which was I think over ten.
I think maybe he took don't have it right in
front of me. Let's see thirteen threes, So he was
three for thirteen on threes. I don't think we've ever
in the last eight seasons of Indiana basketball seen a
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player take thirteen threes in a game. I'm not saying
that's what he's going to do on a regular basis,
but I can see him getting up seven or eight
a game pretty regularly. Didn't obviously make the percentage that
he would like to. But just what were your thoughts
on Lamar Seeing him last night live and going up
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and down, And we know he's a talented scorer. We
know there was a reason that a lot of schools
wanted them. Indiana was fortunate to get his commitment back
in the spring. But seems like he's going to be
a big piece of the puzzle this season for the Hoosiers.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, he was trying to shoot himself out of this
slump early on and was putting up good shots but
not the right shot in a Darren Devriez offense. But
what led me to be excited about Lamar was his
defensive intensity. Despite his shooting, it never wavered. So when
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Wilkerson he's on the floor with Connorway and en Right,
there was never a point where the opponent's guard was
not harassed by one of the three of them, and
it was really impressive to see that the offensive struggles
didn't bleed over it onto the defensive end. So Darren
(10:04):
de Freese said, I'd love for him to shoot twenty
shots game. If he goes two of twenty, I'm alright
with it because the next game he might most likely
will go eighteen of twenty. So I think that his
defensive intensity kept him afloat despite a three or thirteen performance,
and he only shot one two point field goal, he's
oh for one.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Teyton Connorway, I know your messages in me a little
bit throughout the game with someone I think that impressed you.
You know, I watched a lot of film on him
back in the spring, and he really just stood out
as a guy that can control the game really on
both ends in terms of how he facilitates, but also
defensively kind of spearheading things in terms of ball pressure. Again,
can't take a lot out of a game where Indiana
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wins by fifty one points. But with Taytan Connorway, I
know you were impressed with some things. What stood out
with him and what makes him somebody that Indiana fans
should be excited about heading into the season.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well, first of all, his three point shooting. His increased
significantly over the summer. He said, he's been working really
hard on it. He was three for three yesterday and
or sorry, three for or one for one. He made
us loan three. I was thinking of Trent Sisley. I apologize,
but his defensive effort on every single play. Indiana was
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up by twenty at one point and there was not
an inch of room. I said it last week when
we were watching the practice to someone he might be
in the running for Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year.
There is not a lack of effort at all. There's
diving for loose balls. There was going into the stands
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for a loose ball, diving on the floor, and it
was just an all around effort. He played twenty one
minutes and I was impressed every single step of the way.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Another guy that didn't shoot particularly well, but kind of
stuff the statue. Tucker to Reese plays twenty minutes, obviously
coming off of a season enning injury. Go scores nine points,
but eight rebounds, seven assists, three steals. Kind of did
a little bit of everything, I mean, and that's necessary,
that should necessarily be surprising. Two time player of the
Year in the Missouri Valley Conference. You look at his
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rebounding and assist numbers when he back when he was
at Drake, they were always pretty strong. And I think
on this Indiana team, he's going to have to do
a little bit of everything. We know that the front
court isn't going to be overwhelming in terms of size.
He's gonna have to be a guy that rebounds the
ball effectively. But the thing I like there is the
is the assist numbers, because that tells me, you know,
he's looked at as a guy that can go out
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and score twenty five in the game. But when he's
being unselfish and moving the ball, I think for Indiana,
that's a really good sign. And that's just the kind
of player I think from from watching Tucker, you know,
a little bit last year at West Virginia and then
obviously going back to his days at Drake, he was
a kind of a household name in college basketball. People
knew him was one of the best mid major players.
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But his versatility in terms of not just being able
to shoot but also facilitate with others has to be
something that should be a positive as Indiana prepares for
its first season in or Darien Devrez.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, like you said, it didn't jump out on a
stat sheet, but the way he played in his defense,
I'm just gonna keep harping on defense, but everything was
spilling over. He was great in transition. I think there
was three alleops that he threw. I think Indiana committed
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on three of four alleops. One was taking Connorway throwing
one off the backboard for Sam Alexis, who wasn't ready
for it. All around funny moment. He missed it, got
it back. But Devrees is great in transition. He might
not look the part as a guy that can really
push the pace just with his size in his build,
but as soon as Indiana got on in transition, it
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was Tucker Devrez that was leading the charge and trying
to get his teammates open. It was the extra pass
he was driving to the lane and a kickout to
someone in the corner for an open three. Lamar Wilkerson
usually would make that shot, didn't yesterday, but it was
really impressive to see the ball movement led by Debrees
to get an open look. Could go for the layup sometime,
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but with the open guy in the corner, especially an
exhibition game, you want to you want to test things out.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
A lot of times in a game like this, players
will revert to maybe some bad habits and kind of
it'll it'll it'll turn into kind of like a pickup
game where you know things are just happening and that
it's clear the other team can't stop them, so you know,
maybe it's easy to take the the chance and take
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a bad shot or something like that. Was Indiana pretty
focused and kind of organized throughout the game, or was
there any point where it got to be kind of
I don't want to call it an NBA All Star
Game exhibition type up and down, but was in was
Indiana continuing to run its offense and staying organized throughout
the game.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Up until about the sixth minute mark of the fourth quarter.
Indiana was running sets the entire time. They were slowing
it down mostly in the second half. The first quarter
was a bit competitive, nothing out of the ordinary for
a game like this, but they went into sets and
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UCB went into a zone like a ball press. It's
not going to be the best one ever in Indiana
broke it at ease, but they really tried to run
their stuff. They're out of bound set where baseline out
of bound sets were set plays. They weren't just trying
to find there was two guys wide open under the basket.
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They still ran the play that last seven minutes. It
was rough to watch. I am not gonna lie. There
were guys that should not have been on the floor
together and I'm not talking Indiana players. It was. It
got ugly at times.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Just just the other team in terms of who they
had out there. It was just a complete mismatch. I mean,
obviously it's a fifty one point game. I'm just it
was it is it from the same point that they
just had no business being on the court with Indiana.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, it was like Naia bench players against Trent Sisley
and Indiana's depth players. It wasn't like there was walk
ons on the floor. Ian Stevens saw the floor in
the fourth quarter. But it was a complete mismatch.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
What about Reed Bailey and Sam Alexis. Obviously both of
those guys had some strong stats, some strong games, and
you can't really tell a lot. You mentioned that they
didn't have much size, so we don't know how this
is going to translate. We're gonna get a better idea
of that against uh coming into the weekend games against
you know, the Serbia team on Saturday and again on Monday.
I think that'll be a better test of what the
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front court looked like. But it seemed like Sam Alexis
and Reed Bailey both played pretty well in their first
time in an IU uniform.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yes, sam Alexis, a lot of his looks were just
open dump offs for a dunk, but he was rebounding
the basketball, he was boxing out. It was an impressive
sight to see. But as for Reed Bailey, I was
thoroughly impressed with the way he started the second and
the third quarter. He cannot only get a rebound, but
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if there's no one open for an outlet, he's willing
to take the ball up the court himself. And last
year we saw it with Malik Renew. It is a
complete one point eighty. There's actual ball handling skills and
he's comfortable taking it. He went coast to coast off
of a rebound, dished it off, drew a foul, and
it was very nice to see a positionless when he
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was on the floor, positionless offense. When Reed Bailey was
on the floor, he was out and he didn't shoot
a three, didn't attempt to three, so you don't really
have anything there. But he was active at for ninety
four feet and it was impressive to me to see
a guy with sighs not just take advantage of the
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size against a team like this. He was working out
what he needed to work on and got ten points
and eight rebounds, So I was impressed.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
With him in terms of some of the other guys
just just quickly going through Jo High miles it and
seemed like he shot the ball particularly well last night.
Struggled a bit with that. Connor en Wright started, played
seventeen minutes, only score two points. But we know in
terms of stats, you know, Dan Derives talked a little
bit about that he might not be a guy that
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the stats ever jump out, but the little things, the
intangibles that he brings are always going to be part
of the deal with him. And then Josh Harris played
gets a double double in fifteen minutes, thirteen points, ten rebounds.
Kind of look at him right now, is one of
the guys maybe a little bit lower down in the
rotation when you look at the depth chart, but I
think it's a good thing for him to get those
minutes and play well. And then Alexa Restitch gets some
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some minutes. We didn't know for sure as of last
week if he was going to even be on this trip.
He gets in to Bloomington late last week, score six points,
goes three or six from the field. You know, just
kind of touched on each of those guys a little
bit in terms of what you saw. You can start
with Miles and then if you need a reminder on
any of the guys, I know three four guys at
you there, but hopefully we can just get a brief
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rundown on the four of those guys and what you saw.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, Josi Miles had his struggles yesterday, not only on
offense but defense. The coaching staff was imploring him get
in the gap. That was the big thing at practice
last week is getting in the gap. And they were
really yelling at Josh Harris for the majority of last
week's practice that we saw, But Josi Miles was It
seemed a little bit disjointed out there. In his first game.
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It just couldn't get anything going. Got an easy bucket
late to be the last of the players to score.
I think all eleven scored for Indiana. As for Connor
and Wright, looking at a stat sheet doesn't really do
anything for me when it comes to him. I've seen
him play for multiple years now, dating back to high school,
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and it's not going to be a stat sheet filling
night every single night for him. He'll have those games.
I think the zero of two from three he's taking
two to three, two to four threes per game would
be fine in a Darren DeVries offense. He decided to
avoid going for a layup at one point. It was
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wide open layup on for the three as is, as
you do in an exhibition game. But he's going to
be someone that does all the intangibles in a game
against a competitive team. It's really hard to get going
in that aspect as that kind of player, as a
glue guy kind of player against a team. In August
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from Puerto Rico, Josh Harris, I think it was the
next name that you mentioned, correct, all right. It was
one of those games where I think eighty five percent
of those ninety percent of those points and rebounds came
in the second half. But he was using his size
to his advantage in getting buckets and was a fairly
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efficient six of nine from the field with those ten rebounds.
One of two Hoosiers with a double double, like you said,
probably lower on the depth chart, but a confidence boost,
kind of like Trent Sisley and then Restitch. We had
no idea if he was gonna play. He's wearing the
number twenty one, even though on the roster his jersey's
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number thirteen. That's how new he is to the team.
But he was pretty good. He didn't really jump out
necessarily in his nearly seventeen minutes on the floor, but
just being there watching him warm up. I know I
accidentally posted a video of him missing a layup. And
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you win some, you lose some, but his warm up routine,
I don't know if I've seen that many threes made
in a row, so there is potential. And another thing is, sorry,
go back to the warm ups. Those weren't open looks
that they were taking. They were contested. There was a
big emphasis on contested threes during warm ups instead of
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just shooting around just to shoot.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
The other thing I noticed was from one of the
videos that you put in the highlights, which you don't
usually see video of the bench in a highlight REROLD,
but I thought it was interesting that you put that
in there. There was obviously a reason you did in
terms of the fact that this was I don't know
how many people were there, A couple hundred maybe, is
that is that? If that's that, yeah, okay, so you're
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you're playing a game on August sixth, that doesn't count
for anything in Puerto Rico in front of less than
a couple hundred people. You're beating this team pretty convincingly
in the fourth quarter, and the benches or I don't know,
exactly when that clip was it was, it seemed to
be in the second half. The bench was up, cheering.
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Everything was that like an consistent thing in terms of
the energy. I mean, that's what we saw in the
open practice last week. Was basically from the minute those
guys jumped came into the gym, it was clapping. It
was everyone in constant movement, Everyone had a role, everyone
was doing something. And when I saw the video that
you showed last night of the bench, that's instantly what
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popped into my mind. It was there was nobody sitting down.
They were all cheering, they were all engaged, And to me,
that's kind of how things need to be in terms
of this team, because they're not going to go out
there and win every game just based on the talent.
There's not a ton of NBA guys on this team.
But in terms of the camaraderie and the energy and
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the togetherness that they showed, to me, that's a good
sign that the bench is interacting that way in a
game that really means nothing.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
In early August, yeah, it wasn't the entire game that
they were standing, but everything good that would happened to
made basket. There was energy not only from the players
but the coaching staff. They were really trying to push
energy and the camaraderie. You saw it in that video
that Indiana posted. I think that was Tuesday, when they
were touring around Old San Juan. I was talking with someone,
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this team is so tight knit already here in August in.
This trip was meant for them to all get together
and become a unit. And then from those last eight
weeks of practice that we've heard about to yesterday's game,
you could see that this team was closer than teams
in years past. And like you said, they're not gonna
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win based off talent alone. It's gonna be willing themselves
to victories, willing each other to victory. But that video
I posted, because it was a forty five point game
at the time, it was in the fourth quarter and
you had bench players in. You had to walk on in,
and every single starter, including the guys that were also
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on the bench, were standing up and doing defense chance
for their teammates. And that's a very good sign because
it's so easy, especially on a vacation trip, to just
start getting squirrely and looking around and talking on the
bench to each other. But there was a focus the
entire time, and then I think I posted in the
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highlights as well defensive play made in the first half,
or the entire bench got up and it felt like
they were all going to go pick the guy up.
I can't remember who got got knocked over, but there
was a sense of urgency and a sense of togetherness
in game one of this group.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
So what's what's the what's the schedule for the rest
of the week. Obviously there's games on Saturday and Monday.
What what do Indiana fans have to look forward to,
just in terms of the rest of this trip. I
think them is your expectation. The competition levels should step
up over the weekend and we should maybe get a
better sense of of what we're looking at in terms
of this Indiana basketball team.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
We will get a good test of what we will see.
I think sad Day's game will be the better tests
rather than the eleven am Monday game. With the flight
coming out against Serbian professional team Mega super Bet is.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
They're playing playing the two in a row, and again,
when you're playing a team twice in a couple of days,
who knows what happens on the on the second day.
I agree with you. The Saturday night contest seems like
it'd be the one where they will be more energy
maybe and more and it's it's it's in the bigger arena,
I believe too, the one that's more in San Juan.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yes, it is in Roberto Clemente believe. But the only
issue is is that there is a Bad Bunny concert.
He has a residency here in San Juan, so okay,
might not have the crowd just given that probably whatever
that place holds where he's going is going to be filled.
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I won't be there. I don't listen to Bad Bunny music.
But there there is a there's a sense of all right,
got this game out of the way. Now let's have
a litmus test against a professional team with actual big guys.
You're going to see some big dudes out there, the
big European guys, which you might see in a game
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against Illinois and Champagne in January. So it's going to
be a test to see will this lack of size
hurt Indiana or will they be able to run a
big team out of the gym with their speed.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Well, we'll look forward to your coverage and we'll obviously
get your back here on the podcast at some point
over the weekend or early next week to talk about that.
What do you have playing? Just in terms of getting
out and sight seeing, maybe seeing some things around the town.
What have you had a chance to experience so far.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
We went around Old San Juan yesterday and that was
a really cool area. I've never been out to Puerto
Rico before, so it was cool being a tourist. Again.
I don't usually play tourists. I don't like playing tourists,
but I feel like I have to might go back
down there or over there. Was that just a walk
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for you guys, or it was an uber could have
been a walk, but a little bit of a time
crunch on a game day. But there's a shuttle that
goes to the beach. There's no doubt I'll be playing
in Atlantic Ocean waves at some point. Good hopefully not
by myself. That'd be a little strange, but if I
have to, I will. But I'm excited to see the
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food food play here in San Juan. I've heard a
lot about it. Caribbean style food, plantains, all that kind
of stuff. So it's gonna be a dangerous week.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Well, looking forward to it. Josh We're thrilled to have
you as a part of the team. Glad you were
able to make the trip down there. I know everyone
appreciate your coverage and all the multitasking you did on
Wednesday night. You only got to do it for two
more games, so no pressure to keep that up. And again,
make sure if you're not falling Josh on on social media,
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you go ahead and do that. Read all of our
coverage on Inside the Hall. Josh has a story up
this morning about Trenton. I did a recap, a quick
recap last night. There's highlights, there's press conference video. There's
even another post that kind of has a rundown of
every player stats, so make sure you check that out.
Thanks everybody for listening. Thanks Josh again for waking up
early and coming on the show. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
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Welcome back to a new episode of Podcasts on the
Brink Thursday morning, August seventh. Indiana victorious on Wednesday night
and it's exhibition opener down in Puerto Rico. Josh Post
of Inside the Hall is on the scene for us.
It's gonna be actually your first introduction to Josh hereon
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Also happy to have him down in Puerto Rico. Before
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We really appreciate that, Josh. It was not a close
game obviously last night, but first look at well, second look,
we can count the open practice that we were at
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a couple weeks ago, but you know, first look, in
terms of game action for Indiana basketball on Wednesday night,
what was what were your impressions from the game and
just big picture takeaways.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I think it started right up. First of all, I'm Josh,
nice to meet everybody. I'm glad to be on inside
the hall this year. I'm a senior. But my first
impression was right when we got to the stadium alex
It was full warm ups from the get go. Usually
last year we saw just shooting around till about the
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forty five minute mark. No, there were drills going on
all the way up until Indiana went back to their
bench with about a minute left on the clock. So
that was a start right there. You could feel something
new was there, and then the game there was just
an intensity despite playing what I believe people called the
equivalent of an NAIA team, the intensity from the jump,
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from not only the starters but the guys that came
off the bench. The big picture, the score didn't matter
in this game. It was what you saw from individual
players and how they came together as a team, and
I really liked what I saw. Obviously, it was August sixth,
so it's gonna be hard to make any predictions based
off an August sixth game exhibition in Puerto Rico, but
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overall very good defensively and turning rebounds into fast break layups.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So obviously I only saw the video that you posted
in some other video highlights that were on social media,
But having kind of been on one of these trips
of four back all the way back in twenty fourteen
up to Montreal, I can remember going to five different venues,
I think, in six days watching Indiana play exhibition games.
Not a lot of fans made that trip. I was
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thinking that there might be a stronger contingent of IU
fans down at this destination because it's obviously a beach
and it's the time of year where people would like
to go on vacation and get away and get in
the sun. Kind of similar to twenty twenty one when
they went down to the Bahamas and played a couple
of games. But just from judging what I saw on
the background of the videos and just the atmosphere, didn't
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look like there was a strong contingent of fans down there.
Was that surprising at all? Anyway, What did you kind
of expect going in and how did that match up
with reality of what you actually saw in terms of atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I expected a little bit more, but then I realized
after talking to Zach Osterman, that school has started in
the state of Indiana, so it's hard for people to
bring their kids down for a family vacation. To make
it an Indiana basketball family vacation. There are a couple
sprinkled in there. It was a lot of varsity club members.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
There was an event for them with food and drinks,
and they kind of went to the to the court
side seats and then people filed behind. I think from
what I could hear, when a guy would score, there
was a lot of cheering. There were families that came
as well, made that a family vacation as well, families
of players that came, but really an empty gym with
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the only energy coming from the Indiana players. You from
your vantage.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Point, you were just a little bit elevated up in
the just up in the stands, like within the regular seats.
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yes, we had regular seats and we had a regular ticket.
I wish I had it on me right now.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, you were. You were multitasking very well there. I
wanted to point out everybody if people had asked this
kind of what to expect in terms of the coverage,
Josh was keeping stats, which he pointed out to me
before we hit record that he was upset that he
missed a couple rebounds and assists. But we did get
a fit. We didn't no, I think before the game
that we were going to get official stats, So I
(05:04):
know you wanted to keep those just to kind of
have an idea of something to go off when you
were writing. But you're also holding your phone trying to
get as many video clips as possible in addition to
posting updates on social media. So good job there. I
wanted to get just some of your thoughts on players. Obviously,
I want to caveat all of this with this was
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August six, This was an exhibition game. This was an
over clearly overmatched opponent. But I think we can at
least glean some observations from just what you saw in
terms of players and maybe some style of play things
in terms of how things were running offensive and defensively.
But I want to start with Trent Sisley, who you
wrote about for this morning on Inside the Hall. Obviously,
Trent's a name that a lot of people are familiar
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with because he was recruited for quite a long time
by the previous coaching staff signed with Indiana under Mike Woodson,
the coaching change happens. He is solid as you can
be with the program, sticks sticks it out. Is obviously
now a freshman on campus. Spent last season at Montvert
Academy down in Florida after playing his first three years
of Heritage Chills, and I think, just from talking to
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Trent in the spring, really used that year down in
Florida as a development year in terms of getting an
opportunity to work in an atmosphere that's much more college
like than what he would have had back at Heritage
Chills and play against the national schedule. They traveled around
the country, played a lot of great teams, and while
his stats didn't jump off you know the paper when
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you looked at him from a senior season, definitely showed
some growth. Shot the three ball really well. Is last
year of high school, and it looks like that translated
to last night's game where he went three for three
from deep, but started a little bit slow, but once
he got into the swing of things, played really well.
Was Indians leading score last night. Got to talk to
the media. Don't see that very often for a freshman
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in their first college action. So just you your thoughts
on Trent how he looked, And obviously I don't want
to look into projections in terms of how much well
he played, but do he look the part of a
guy that can maybe help Indiana the season.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
He not only looked a part of a guy that
could help Indiana this season, he could be a guy
that leads Indiana at some point, maybe not the entire season.
And again it's August seventh as we record this right now,
but he got off to that slow start, but then
hit that first layup off a great feed, and then
the next possession after a defensive stop or right wing three,
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didn't even graze the rim, and it was game on
from there. He think he came out late in that
first half, and then in the second half he exploded.
I think it was sixteen second half points. He made
both of his threes, six to nine from twos, He
was seventy five percent overall. He had the most field goals,
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and he didn't just dominate offensively. He was a presence defensively.
And it's hard to be the four at his size
in the Big Ten play in college basketball. He had
no issue with that against this team that probably didn't
have it. They didn't have a guy that was over
six foot four, So Indians Biggs had everything going for them,
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but Trent Sisley sharing the ball, rebounding the basketball, defensively,
and in most importantly offensive explosion in game one, and
Darren DeVries said, that's a pretty high bar. He said it,
but it's good to have confidence for the freshman.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
As far as Lamar Wilkerson goes, I didn't pay too
much attention in terms of his final stat line. I
looked more at the fact that the amount of attempts
that he got up, which was I think over ten.
I think maybe he took don't have it right in
front of me. Let's see thirteen threes, So he was
three for thirteen on threes. I don't think we've ever
in the last eight seasons of Indiana basketball seen a
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player take thirteen threes in a game. I'm not saying
that's what he's going to do on a regular basis,
but I can see him getting up seven or eight
a game pretty regularly. Didn't obviously make the percentage that
he would like to. But just what were your thoughts
on Lamar Seeing him last night live and going up
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and down, And we know he's a talented scorer. We
know there was a reason that a lot of schools
wanted them. Indiana was fortunate to get his commitment back
in the spring. But seems like he's going to be
a big piece of the puzzle this season for the Hoosiers.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, he was trying to shoot himself out of this
slump early on and was putting up good shots but
not the right shot in a Darren Devriez offense. But
what led me to be excited about Lamar was his
defensive intensity. Despite his shooting, it never wavered. So when
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Wilkerson he's on the floor with Connorway and en Right,
there was never a point where the opponent's guard was
not harassed by one of the three of them, and
it was really impressive to see that the offensive struggles
didn't bleed over it onto the defensive end. So Darren
(10:04):
de Freese said, I'd love for him to shoot twenty
shots game. If he goes two of twenty, I'm alright
with it because the next game he might most likely
will go eighteen of twenty. So I think that his
defensive intensity kept him afloat despite a three or thirteen performance,
and he only shot one two point field goal, he's
oh for one.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Teyton Connorway, I know your messages in me a little
bit throughout the game with someone I think that impressed you.
You know, I watched a lot of film on him
back in the spring, and he really just stood out
as a guy that can control the game really on
both ends in terms of how he facilitates, but also
defensively kind of spearheading things in terms of ball pressure. Again,
can't take a lot out of a game where Indiana
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wins by fifty one points. But with Taytan Connorway, I
know you were impressed with some things. What stood out
with him and what makes him somebody that Indiana fans
should be excited about heading into the season.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well, first of all, his three point shooting. His increased
significantly over the summer. He said, he's been working really
hard on it. He was three for three yesterday and
or sorry, three for or one for one. He made
us loan three. I was thinking of Trent Sisley. I apologize,
but his defensive effort on every single play. Indiana was
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up by twenty at one point and there was not
an inch of room. I said it last week when
we were watching the practice to someone he might be
in the running for Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year.
There is not a lack of effort at all. There's
diving for loose balls. There was going into the stands
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for a loose ball, diving on the floor, and it
was just an all around effort. He played twenty one
minutes and I was impressed every single step of the way.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Another guy that didn't shoot particularly well, but kind of
stuff the statue. Tucker to Reese plays twenty minutes, obviously
coming off of a season enning injury. Go scores nine points,
but eight rebounds, seven assists, three steals. Kind of did
a little bit of everything, I mean, and that's necessary,
that should necessarily be surprising. Two time player of the
Year in the Missouri Valley Conference. You look at his
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rebounding and assist numbers when he back when he was
at Drake, they were always pretty strong. And I think
on this Indiana team, he's going to have to do
a little bit of everything. We know that the front
court isn't going to be overwhelming in terms of size.
He's gonna have to be a guy that rebounds the
ball effectively. But the thing I like there is the
is the assist numbers, because that tells me, you know,
he's looked at as a guy that can go out
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and score twenty five in the game. But when he's
being unselfish and moving the ball, I think for Indiana,
that's a really good sign. And that's just the kind
of player I think from from watching Tucker, you know,
a little bit last year at West Virginia and then
obviously going back to his days at Drake, he was
a kind of a household name in college basketball. People
knew him was one of the best mid major players.
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But his versatility in terms of not just being able
to shoot but also facilitate with others has to be
something that should be a positive as Indiana prepares for
its first season in or Darien Devrez.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, like you said, it didn't jump out on a
stat sheet, but the way he played in his defense,
I'm just gonna keep harping on defense, but everything was
spilling over. He was great in transition. I think there
was three alleops that he threw. I think Indiana committed
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on three of four alleops. One was taking Connorway throwing
one off the backboard for Sam Alexis, who wasn't ready
for it. All around funny moment. He missed it, got
it back. But Devrees is great in transition. He might
not look the part as a guy that can really
push the pace just with his size in his build,
but as soon as Indiana got on in transition, it
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was Tucker Devrez that was leading the charge and trying
to get his teammates open. It was the extra pass
he was driving to the lane and a kickout to
someone in the corner for an open three. Lamar Wilkerson
usually would make that shot, didn't yesterday, but it was
really impressive to see the ball movement led by Debrees
to get an open look. Could go for the layup sometime,
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but with the open guy in the corner, especially an
exhibition game, you want to you want to test things out.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
A lot of times in a game like this, players
will revert to maybe some bad habits and kind of
it'll it'll it'll turn into kind of like a pickup
game where you know things are just happening and that
it's clear the other team can't stop them, so you know,
maybe it's easy to take the the chance and take
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a bad shot or something like that. Was Indiana pretty
focused and kind of organized throughout the game, or was
there any point where it got to be kind of
I don't want to call it an NBA All Star
Game exhibition type up and down, but was in was
Indiana continuing to run its offense and staying organized throughout
the game.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Up until about the sixth minute mark of the fourth quarter.
Indiana was running sets the entire time. They were slowing
it down mostly in the second half. The first quarter
was a bit competitive, nothing out of the ordinary for
a game like this, but they went into sets and
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UCB went into a zone like a ball press. It's
not going to be the best one ever in Indiana
broke it at ease, but they really tried to run
their stuff. They're out of bound set where baseline out
of bound sets were set plays. They weren't just trying
to find there was two guys wide open under the basket.
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They still ran the play that last seven minutes. It
was rough to watch. I am not gonna lie. There
were guys that should not have been on the floor
together and I'm not talking Indiana players. It was. It
got ugly at times.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Just just the other team in terms of who they
had out there. It was just a complete mismatch. I mean,
obviously it's a fifty one point game. I'm just it
was it is it from the same point that they
just had no business being on the court with Indiana.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, it was like Naia bench players against Trent Sisley
and Indiana's depth players. It wasn't like there was walk
ons on the floor. Ian Stevens saw the floor in
the fourth quarter. But it was a complete mismatch.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
What about Reed Bailey and Sam Alexis. Obviously both of
those guys had some strong stats, some strong games, and
you can't really tell a lot. You mentioned that they
didn't have much size, so we don't know how this
is going to translate. We're gonna get a better idea
of that against uh coming into the weekend games against
you know, the Serbia team on Saturday and again on Monday.
I think that'll be a better test of what the
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front court looked like. But it seemed like Sam Alexis
and Reed Bailey both played pretty well in their first
time in an IU uniform.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yes, sam Alexis, a lot of his looks were just
open dump offs for a dunk, but he was rebounding
the basketball, he was boxing out. It was an impressive
sight to see. But as for Reed Bailey, I was
thoroughly impressed with the way he started the second and
the third quarter. He cannot only get a rebound, but
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if there's no one open for an outlet, he's willing
to take the ball up the court himself. And last
year we saw it with Malik Renew. It is a
complete one point eighty. There's actual ball handling skills and
he's comfortable taking it. He went coast to coast off
of a rebound, dished it off, drew a foul, and
it was very nice to see a positionless when he
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was on the floor, positionless offense. When Reed Bailey was
on the floor, he was out and he didn't shoot
a three, didn't attempt to three, so you don't really
have anything there. But he was active at for ninety
four feet and it was impressive to me to see
a guy with sighs not just take advantage of the
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size against a team like this. He was working out
what he needed to work on and got ten points
and eight rebounds, So I was impressed.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
With him in terms of some of the other guys
just just quickly going through Jo High miles it and
seemed like he shot the ball particularly well last night.
Struggled a bit with that. Connor en Wright started, played
seventeen minutes, only score two points. But we know in
terms of stats, you know, Dan Derives talked a little
bit about that he might not be a guy that
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the stats ever jump out, but the little things, the
intangibles that he brings are always going to be part
of the deal with him. And then Josh Harris played
gets a double double in fifteen minutes, thirteen points, ten rebounds.
Kind of look at him right now, is one of
the guys maybe a little bit lower down in the
rotation when you look at the depth chart, but I
think it's a good thing for him to get those
minutes and play well. And then Alexa Restitch gets some
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some minutes. We didn't know for sure as of last
week if he was going to even be on this trip.
He gets in to Bloomington late last week, score six points,
goes three or six from the field. You know, just
kind of touched on each of those guys a little
bit in terms of what you saw. You can start
with Miles and then if you need a reminder on
any of the guys, I know three four guys at
you there, but hopefully we can just get a brief
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rundown on the four of those guys and what you saw.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, Josi Miles had his struggles yesterday, not only on
offense but defense. The coaching staff was imploring him get
in the gap. That was the big thing at practice
last week is getting in the gap. And they were
really yelling at Josh Harris for the majority of last
week's practice that we saw, But Josi Miles was It
seemed a little bit disjointed out there. In his first game.
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It just couldn't get anything going. Got an easy bucket
late to be the last of the players to score.
I think all eleven scored for Indiana. As for Connor
and Wright, looking at a stat sheet doesn't really do
anything for me when it comes to him. I've seen
him play for multiple years now, dating back to high school,
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and it's not going to be a stat sheet filling
night every single night for him. He'll have those games.
I think the zero of two from three he's taking
two to three, two to four threes per game would
be fine in a Darren DeVries offense. He decided to
avoid going for a layup at one point. It was
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wide open layup on for the three as is, as
you do in an exhibition game. But he's going to
be someone that does all the intangibles in a game
against a competitive team. It's really hard to get going
in that aspect as that kind of player, as a
glue guy kind of player against a team. In August
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from Puerto Rico, Josh Harris, I think it was the
next name that you mentioned, correct, all right. It was
one of those games where I think eighty five percent
of those ninety percent of those points and rebounds came
in the second half. But he was using his size
to his advantage in getting buckets and was a fairly
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efficient six of nine from the field with those ten rebounds.
One of two Hoosiers with a double double, like you said,
probably lower on the depth chart, but a confidence boost,
kind of like Trent Sisley and then Restitch. We had
no idea if he was gonna play. He's wearing the
number twenty one, even though on the roster his jersey's
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number thirteen. That's how new he is to the team.
But he was pretty good. He didn't really jump out
necessarily in his nearly seventeen minutes on the floor, but
just being there watching him warm up. I know I
accidentally posted a video of him missing a layup. And
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you win some, you lose some, but his warm up routine,
I don't know if I've seen that many threes made
in a row, so there is potential. And another thing is, sorry,
go back to the warm ups. Those weren't open looks
that they were taking. They were contested. There was a
big emphasis on contested threes during warm ups instead of
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just shooting around just to shoot.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
The other thing I noticed was from one of the
videos that you put in the highlights, which you don't
usually see video of the bench in a highlight REROLD,
but I thought it was interesting that you put that
in there. There was obviously a reason you did in
terms of the fact that this was I don't know
how many people were there, A couple hundred maybe, is
that is that? If that's that, yeah, okay, so you're
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you're playing a game on August sixth, that doesn't count
for anything in Puerto Rico in front of less than
a couple hundred people. You're beating this team pretty convincingly
in the fourth quarter, and the benches or I don't know,
exactly when that clip was it was, it seemed to
be in the second half. The bench was up, cheering.
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Everything was that like an consistent thing in terms of
the energy. I mean, that's what we saw in the
open practice last week. Was basically from the minute those
guys jumped came into the gym, it was clapping. It
was everyone in constant movement, Everyone had a role, everyone
was doing something. And when I saw the video that
you showed last night of the bench, that's instantly what
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popped into my mind. It was there was nobody sitting down.
They were all cheering, they were all engaged, And to me,
that's kind of how things need to be in terms
of this team, because they're not going to go out
there and win every game just based on the talent.
There's not a ton of NBA guys on this team.
But in terms of the camaraderie and the energy and
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the togetherness that they showed, to me, that's a good
sign that the bench is interacting that way in a
game that really means nothing.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
In early August, yeah, it wasn't the entire game that
they were standing, but everything good that would happened to
made basket. There was energy not only from the players
but the coaching staff. They were really trying to push
energy and the camaraderie. You saw it in that video
that Indiana posted. I think that was Tuesday, when they
were touring around Old San Juan. I was talking with someone,
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this team is so tight knit already here in August in.
This trip was meant for them to all get together
and become a unit. And then from those last eight
weeks of practice that we've heard about to yesterday's game,
you could see that this team was closer than teams
in years past. And like you said, they're not gonna
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win based off talent alone. It's gonna be willing themselves
to victories, willing each other to victory. But that video
I posted, because it was a forty five point game
at the time, it was in the fourth quarter and
you had bench players in. You had to walk on in,
and every single starter, including the guys that were also
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on the bench, were standing up and doing defense chance
for their teammates. And that's a very good sign because
it's so easy, especially on a vacation trip, to just
start getting squirrely and looking around and talking on the
bench to each other. But there was a focus the
entire time, and then I think I posted in the
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highlights as well defensive play made in the first half,
or the entire bench got up and it felt like
they were all going to go pick the guy up.
I can't remember who got got knocked over, but there
was a sense of urgency and a sense of togetherness
in game one of this group.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
So what's what's the what's the schedule for the rest
of the week. Obviously there's games on Saturday and Monday.
What what do Indiana fans have to look forward to,
just in terms of the rest of this trip. I
think them is your expectation. The competition levels should step
up over the weekend and we should maybe get a
better sense of of what we're looking at in terms
of this Indiana basketball team.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
We will get a good test of what we will see.
I think sad Day's game will be the better tests
rather than the eleven am Monday game. With the flight
coming out against Serbian professional team Mega super Bet is.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
They're playing playing the two in a row, and again,
when you're playing a team twice in a couple of days,
who knows what happens on the on the second day.
I agree with you. The Saturday night contest seems like
it'd be the one where they will be more energy
maybe and more and it's it's it's in the bigger arena,
I believe too, the one that's more in San Juan.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yes, it is in Roberto Clemente believe. But the only
issue is is that there is a Bad Bunny concert.
He has a residency here in San Juan, so okay,
might not have the crowd just given that probably whatever
that place holds where he's going is going to be filled.
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I won't be there. I don't listen to Bad Bunny music.
But there there is a there's a sense of all right,
got this game out of the way. Now let's have
a litmus test against a professional team with actual big guys.
You're going to see some big dudes out there, the
big European guys, which you might see in a game
(27:10):
against Illinois and Champagne in January. So it's going to
be a test to see will this lack of size
hurt Indiana or will they be able to run a
big team out of the gym with their speed.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Well, we'll look forward to your coverage and we'll obviously
get your back here on the podcast at some point
over the weekend or early next week to talk about that.
What do you have playing? Just in terms of getting
out and sight seeing, maybe seeing some things around the town.
What have you had a chance to experience so far.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
We went around Old San Juan yesterday and that was
a really cool area. I've never been out to Puerto
Rico before, so it was cool being a tourist. Again.
I don't usually play tourists. I don't like playing tourists,
but I feel like I have to might go back
down there or over there. Was that just a walk
(28:02):
for you guys, or it was an uber could have
been a walk, but a little bit of a time
crunch on a game day. But there's a shuttle that
goes to the beach. There's no doubt I'll be playing
in Atlantic Ocean waves at some point. Good hopefully not
by myself. That'd be a little strange, but if I
have to, I will. But I'm excited to see the
(28:24):
food food play here in San Juan. I've heard a
lot about it. Caribbean style food, plantains, all that kind
of stuff. So it's gonna be a dangerous week.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Well, looking forward to it. Josh We're thrilled to have
you as a part of the team. Glad you were
able to make the trip down there. I know everyone
appreciate your coverage and all the multitasking you did on
Wednesday night. You only got to do it for two
more games, so no pressure to keep that up. And again,
make sure if you're not falling Josh on on social media,
(28:55):
you go ahead and do that. Read all of our
coverage on Inside the Hall. Josh has a story up
this morning about Trenton. I did a recap, a quick
recap last night. There's highlights, there's press conference video. There's
even another post that kind of has a rundown of
every player stats, so make sure you check that out.
Thanks everybody for listening. Thanks Josh again for waking up
early and coming on the show. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Thanks everybody as always for listening. As we mentioned at
the top of the show, please leave us to rating
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(29:40):
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