October 3, 2025 • 31 mins
On this episode, Alex Bozich is joined by Quinn Richards of The Indiana Daily Student and Inside the Hall to discuss IU basketball's open practice earlier this week, Hoosier Hoops on Kirkwood, and football's 5-0 start, as well as what lies ahead.
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Welcome back to a new episode of Podcast on the
Brink Friday, October third, any and a basketball beginning to
get more into the swing of things here with media
day and open practice. Earlier this week Thursday night they
had the event down on Kirkwood, which we're going to
talk about a little bit on this episode, and tonight
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Cream and Crimson scrimmage at Assembly Hall. So a lot
going on now. Obviously football is still on full swing,
but a bye week there before they go on the
road next week to take on Oregon out in Eugene.
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on Podcasts on the Brink, we've got one of our
new student writers, Quinn Richards who which Quinn, I'm not
sure I'm trying to unmute you from talking here.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
It's not letting me do it.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
On mind.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I think you should be good now, okay good.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Quinn is actually just had his intro post this morning
on Inside the Hall. Is currently working for the IDs
covering football, so kind to be doing split duty here
over the next couple of months while he's obviously focused
on football, but going to do some basketball and also
women's basketball stuff for Inside the Hall of the season.
Welcome to the show, Quinn, Welcome to Inside the Hall.
Good to be talking to you on this Friday morning.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, it's super good to be here. As excited to
finally get my intro out there. Have been waiting on
that for a while. And it's gonna be a good
year the crossover season. Obviously, we're gonna we're gonna grind
through it. But excited to get into the basketball season.
And it's really cool to kind of go to that
open practice and then the event last night to get
into the swing of things and get back into the
basketball mindset. Ya.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
What this is your first year I think covering football.
What's just been that what's been that experience been like
so far? Obviously things have gone well, Indiana's five and zero.
A lot of excitement obviously around campus.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I'm sure the.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Student bodies super excited about the team start, but just
curious from a media perspective and what you observed so
far through the first five weeks of the season, what
that's been like. Yeah, it's been It's been really fun.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Obviously, kind of Indiana's had the microscope put on them
after last season and making the playoffs and stuff, and
what I've what I've kind of told people with covering
football is it's different because you kind of see the
game from a lot further out, I mean quite literally
with the press box and stuff. But it's it's a
lot tougher to watch it and from that perspective and
in terms of going back to film and stuff. But
it's been really fun to cover them, and obviously with
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the national spotlight, there's a lot of politics that definitely
go into football, I'd say probably more than there would
be in basketball, and just kind of figuring out, you know,
what is ESPN saying, what are these other outlets saying.
But it's been a good experience. Obviously, there's a ton
of storylines there in the football program, and I'm the columnist,
So I have my very free reign to kind of
hit whatever I want to and touch on a lot
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of things and kind of have fun with it, especially
early in the season when Indiana was just rolling through teams.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, I was going to ask you for those first
couple of games. Obviously, the Old Dominion game was a
little bit closer than most people thought, but the first
three games were I think pretty much penciled in as
wins before the season even started. As a columnist. What's
your approach on games that aren't necessarily going to be competitive.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And what you can take from those games?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
From that game and specific the Indiana State game, I
actually was like, Okay, I just want to have fun
with this, right, I'm the columnist. I'm just going to
have free ran. So in the second half of that game,
it was already like fifty something to nothing. I mean,
we knew, we knew it was going to be not close.
I just left the press box. I went into the stadium.
I was going up and down the student sections because
there were just like one or two students to an
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entire row, and I was like, why are you guys
still here? And so I started writing my story about
like you know, the students that were there for the
money line. I was talking to some guys in the band.
My lead for that story was something about when I
was in high school in the band of my high
school team losing zero to forty six or something, and
that's kind of the vibe it was, and happened to
be on a Friday night. So just try to find
the stories that maybe aren't getting told because everyone's going
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to throw the statistics out there, but I probably had
five or six statistics and the rest of it was
just what people were saying in the in the student
section in the stadium, the few Indiana State fans that
I could find, and it was a ton of fun
rating honestly, probably one of the most enjoyable stories I've
been able to write since becoming a writer.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So you were down on Kirkwood last night for the
first ever Hoosier Hoops on Kirkwood. Obviously, this event has,
I don't want to say, replaced Who's Your a stare area,
but instead of having one night where Admittedly, as someone
who's been covering Who's Your Steria for a long time,
I think the event got a little bit stale over time.
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It was in many years longer than it need to
be super drawn out. I like the idea of getting
people down on Kirkwood, having you know, just a different environment,
and then also having the scrimmage tonight. So it's going
to be interesting just to see kind of the attendant tonight.
But I'm curious, just last night you were down there
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on Kirkwood, what were some of the main takeaways from
the event. Obviously not any real basketball being played, there's
obviously some trick shots and different shooting contests, but just
what was the vibe down there and kind of what
was the turnout like for the first ever Who's your
hoops on Kirkwood.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, I would say I would say vibes are pretty high.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I got there an hour and a half before it
even started to make sure I could get a front
row seat. But it was a good thing I did,
because it started getting pack behind me. I mean I
was on the very edge of the metal gated kind
of court that they brought in the temporary court, and
there was probably seven or eight rows of people behind
me on that side. Then across the way you had
upstairs pub overlooking the court. Really cool for those people
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up there. I think my biggest takeaway was just the
understanding that this new kind of era with Darren Derees
in this holy roster has of the importance of the
students and the fan base and connecting with them, because
in my opinion, it felt like that had been something
that was kind of pushed away on the back burner
for Indiana basketball, like understanding the students. Indiana for a
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long time relied on, like, hey, look we have our history,
we have our banners, but the real, the core of
it is getting in touch with the students.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
If you're relying on the past, you're alienate, alienating the present.
I think that's what kind of Debrees is working to change.
And you saw that, you saw that.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Today or sorry last night.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Debrez at the end of the thing was like, okay,
everyone at upstairs, I'm buying you drinks tonight.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
He had a quote in there that I loved.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
It was like, you know what makes the space this
place special when you go into assembly hall and you
see the banners, But you know what really makes this
place special, it's this right here. It showed just with
that sentence he understands, he gets it that the core
of this fan base needs to be the students. It's
a college team, obviously that's going to be the key,
and I think this was a huge step in the
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right direction for that. There were some issues. Obviously, there
were some mike issues. Trent Sisily's name wasn't even called
because the microphone completely cut out for his name.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Uh So that.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Was that was tough, But overall it was really cool.
Sidney Parrish was there, kind of MCing for the women's team,
Griffin Gonzalez for the men's team. But it was It
was an awesome, I think event for for mostly the students.
I'm not sure for the older fans it's something that
they like more than Who's Your Hysteria? But I personally
think that for this program, this was a much better event.
As you mentioned Who's Your Hysteria? I mean with the
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attendance and stuff like, it looked sparse, it was kind
of long to sit through. This event was an hour.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
From when the players first got there to when they
left the court. It was an hour long. I think
that was the perfect amount of time, good music throughout
and stuff. It was a good, good experience overall.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, I was at some of the very first Who's
Your hysterias, which were quite a while ago, in twenty
five years ago. I don't exactly know what year it began,
but it used to be almost like it was a
midnight madness type of practice. I don't know if you
remember that that term, but sure teams couldn't actually start
practicing until midnight on a certain day, so they would
actually have people come in at midnight and they would kick.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Off the season with an event.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Now that actually meant something because it was actually symbolic
of the practice actually starting. But over time, who's your
hysteria in many ways, you know, changed and we had
a couple of years ago there was there was a
concert involved in the end. I think two straight years
Indiana brought in some musical acts to do concerts. And
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in many ways it's always been a recruiting event. But
I think with the changes in IL and just everything,
how recruiting changes now, it makes sense to kind of
differentiate these events a little bit. And I think instead
of having a night that goes two and a half
three hours long, you break it up, have this event
on Kirkwood and then tonight. My understanding is it's going
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to be a forty roughly forty minute scrimmage that I
expect to last about ninety minutes, but that's much more manageable. Also,
giving people a chance to kind of see the team
in a different venue, having everyone down on Kirkwood in
more relaxed environment, I think that's a great thing.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I mean, I'm not asking you to estimate the crowd
or how many people were there, but was it, you know,
five hundred people, a thousand people? What would you kind
of surmise was the attendance down there last night?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I mean, there had to have been at least two
hundred people at upstairs alone. I would say it's closer
to a thousand. I think overall. I had a roommate
ask me, it's like, you think it was more people
than who's yourysteria? Was like, probably less people than who's
your hysteria? But I think it didn't necessarily matter when
the excitement was actually there, right, Like, if you're bringing
in two thousand people for your hysteria in a seventeen
thousand capacities state like Arena, it looks a whole lot
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worse than when you have a packed Kirkwood Avenue. But
it was packed like it was genuinely. There were a
ton of people on the front rows trying to get looks.
There are people standing up on balconies, a ton of
people from their apartments that.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Overlooked had really good views. But yeah, it was it
was a good atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
And then just even up and down the street, people
walking by just stopping to kind of take a peek.
And even students who maybe otherwise wouldn't care about basketball
just because of the event were We're curious and interested.
But I think it's a big step. Like I mentioned, like,
who's your hysteria students had to go to Assembly all.
Now they brought the basketball team to the students, and
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I think that just shows you what Indiana's really trying
to do now with with debrees at the Helm.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, I think you make a good point about the
attendance too for hysteria. You know, when I first started
inside the hall, in some of those years where Crean
had Indiana ranked in the top five or ten in
the country, there were years where the lower bowl and
was completely full Assembly Hall and you had people in
the balcony. The last couple of years, obviously they've had
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decent solid crowds there, but nothing like those. So I
think that kind of speaks to the idea that maybe
changing this up and it's a good time to do
it right. A new regime is in a new coaching staff.
And the other thing I'll say is just Darren DeVries. Obviously,
what ultimately matters with any coaching staff is wins and losses.
He's not going to be judged on what he does
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in terms of opening access to the media or opening
more opportunities for the fan base to interact. But I
do think it's a good idea when you're trying to
build a culture and relationship with the fan base that
you allow more opportunities for your team to be in
front of the fan base. It felt like the last
couple of years that Indiana was really closed off from
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just a public in general. And having those opportunities for
for media to go watch practice, we can write observations
and share what we're seeing from the team. Talking to players,
you get more or you get better responses when you
have an open locker room type setting, rather than just
selling guys on a podium and getting canned answers and
then having the Hoosier the hot Hall of Hoops, which
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is going to be brought back at the end of
the month this year, something that Tom Crean had formally
in Indiana. That's another way you build a fan base
by allowing some of the younger kids that you know,
maybe don't get to come to Assembly Hall for a
game during the season because it's too late past their bedtime,
think their parents can bring them in. They have a
chance to meet the players, get candy. So I think
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that's just another thing that they've done to really try
to bridge some of the you know, relationship between the
fan base. It's it's has been broken in the last
couple of years.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I mean it's it's it's a it's a conceded effort
you can tell to to kind of make that happen.
And I think they're off to a really good start.
And I mean they're smart. Coach Derees is definitely a
smart guy. He knows that from a media perspective, when
we're going in for for open practice and stuff, especially
with this this kind of team, it's tough for us.
We're not gonna write negative stuff, Like it's really tough
to write a negative story about a player who hasn't played.
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So they know that you know it's gonna be good
publicity for them. I don't think it was a coincidence
that after the event last night, Derese came over to
shake hands just right in front of a bunch of
media people that were filming it, you know what I mean, Like,
he's a smart guy and he kind of knows that
and they're playing that game.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
But it's it's great for the program, right.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
It's great for us as media, we get the access,
we get more stories, but it's also great for the program,
great for the students, and great for the fans.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
So this was my second time watching practice. I went
earlier to some of the first time. For you, what
were when you had a chance to watch the practice?
It was I think about ninety minutes. As you said,
there's there's really nothing negative to take away from it
because it's you know, it's a lot of a lot
of shots going in, a lot of you know, positive
energy in the arena. We'll obviously know a lot more
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about this team, probably when they play that exhibition game
against Baylor in Indianapolis later this month. But I'm just
curious what your thoughts were watching some of the new
guys get a chance to go through practice on Tuesday
at Assembly Hall.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Really, just the energy is what stood out to me
right away. With the student manager's clabbing. It's tough because
we can't compare this to the past because there was
just never this opportunity in the past and the Mike
Woodson regime to watch a practice, so we can only
really go off of what we've heard. I've heard Mike
Woodson was kind of in your face, like he will
chew you out at practice and stuff, and he is
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a guy who you know, would would like to hear
himself talk in all honesty for better or for worse.
DeVries kind of sat back. I don't know if you
noticed that too, Like it seemed like he was willing
to take kind of a back seat. Not that he
wasn't watching practice or doing anything like that. He was
certainly attentive, but he would let his assistant coaches kind
of take over the reins. He would let his veteran
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players kind of lead run throughs and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
So that stood out to me.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
In terms of players, I think one guy that really
stood out to me was Tayton Connorway. He looked just
like a savvy vett through and through Like, there's a
couple plays when they were whether it was drills, he
had a one on one drill with Sam alexis a
much bigger defender, and he was in the post shot
clock running down kind with like a back shoulder pump
fake and up like just look like a veteran out there.
I think he's gonna be a guy that's fun to watch.
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Lamar Wilkerson just a ton of high energy. You can
tell that guy's got personality, a good sense of humor,
but not in a distracting sense. He was still locked in,
still focused, still kind of leading his teammates. But the
biggest thing, yeah, would just be the energy you had
the student managers just clapping it up after every single play,
Every single student manager, every player, when they would go
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through the run throughs, would repeat the set, repeat the play.
And I think Devrez has talked about that. He's like,
that's the culture we want to build. And it was
on display. And how much of that was was show
for the media, I guess we will never know. But
if it was a show for the media, they did
a pretty good job putting it on.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, I'm sure things were dialed back a little bit,
just in terms of the actual coaching that was going on.
Who knows, the players may have actually been glad to
have us there because maybe it was a bit of
an easier day. But the one thing I'll say is
is just you can all the if you notice, derees
kind of have like a piece of paper, and the
assistant coaches did everything on the on the clock was timed,
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and everything kind of moved along on a schedule, so
it was basically like we're going to do whatever it was,
twelve or fifteen things, and we're going to do them
in the X amount of time, and we're going to
be really focused on that thing while we're doing it.
There wasn't a lot of wasted time. I mean, there
was obviously a few small breaks for water and maybe
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a you know, a couple other thing instances where it
would stop and given instruction to somebody, But overall, I
was just impressed with this is kind of goes for
both practices, how efficient things were, just in terms of
covering a lot of ground. And it started out with
kind of going over a ton of offensive sets and
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working on passing nothing at game speed. But I think
it was just kind of a run through of like,
this is what we're we've maybe installed lately. We're going
to go, you know, make sure everything is being executed
as playing. Then when they got into the actual work,
after they did some stretching there, everything was done with
like one hundred and ten percent energy. They were all engaged.
They were all, as you said, clapping for each other.
There wasn't anyone that was not watching what was going on,
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no one joking off to the side. It was very
business like in the approach. And you know, I know
it's a cliche to say, but you know, you practice
how you play, and so I think it bodes well
just in terms of the organization and you have efficiency
that this team in this program are going to operate with.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
From watching practice, I think it's a good sign. You know.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I want maybe I want to ask you, you know
about at Sicily And I'm not sure if you watched
him closely at all, but he was the guy that
really stood out to me just in terms of his
energy and kind of the way he approached the game
doing a lot of little things. I can see him
being a guy that not just because not just because
of the fact that he's from Indiana, but the way
he approaches the game and his knack for getting his
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hand on the ball, whether it's on the offensive or defensive.
Glass makes a lot of unselfish plays, makes a lot
of winning plays. I think he's a guy that fans
are going to really gravitate towards. Any any thoughts on
what you saw out of him, and do you agree
with with kind of just what you saw in terms
of him doing the little things and making the hustle place.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, I agree. And he looked surprisingly comfortable for being
a freshman in the team with a ton of vets,
a ton of guys with a ton of college basketball experience. Like,
he looked comfortable, and he made those plays. He made
the hustle plays. He was kind of relentless on defense.
You could tell he's got that passion, that intensity on
the defensive end, which I think sometimes you don't necessarily
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from a freshman coming into this kind of environment.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
But he looks dialed in. I think Devris mentioned that
he was like, yeah, like he's done a really good job.
He hasn't fallen behind much. We threw him into the fire,
straight into it with like this is going to be
an intense practice, but he's kind of handled it, handled
it well. Obviously he's got a great physical frame. He's
put on some weight since coming over from Mountain Verd.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
But yeah, no, he looked good.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
He had a nice dunk, and it seems like his
teammates really like him. I heard a couple of times
Eli there would go Trent, you know what I mean,
just hyping him up. On one occasion, Trent was on
the right side of the floor, Lamar was on the
left side, and Lamar doing his own thing. Notice Trent
on the right side make a nice play, and he
like cheer him ond He's like, there you go, Trent, Like,
nice play, Keep that up. So I think that's super
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super helpful for a guy like Trent Sisley to have
those teammates around him that are kind of boosting him
and helping him up. But also, yeah, I mean, Trent's
got the skills I think to be a contributing piece
on this team. It'll be interesting to see how much
DeVries would like to use him, especially early on in
the season. But yeah, that's It's definitely a guy to
watch moving forward for in the enna, and I think
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he would one hundred percent be a fan favorite if
he kind of gets going.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I think he's definitely a guy that's positioned himself for
a rotation role. I'm not saying he's going to start
or play twenty five minutes a game, but I definitely
see even when the competition stiffens, he's going to be
a guy that are gonna be comfortable putting on the
on the court, whether it's against Kentucky or Marquette or Alabama.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
A and M.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I think he's going to have a somewhat of a
role for most of most if not all, the season
on this team. You know, obviously, a lot of what
we've talked about is positive, and everything in the preseason
is projecting, and there's a lot of things that people
feel good about with the new coaching regime. But when
you look at this team on paper and kind of
what you saw in practice, are there one or two
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things that you're curious to see, like how it works
out when the season actually starts. From a basketball perspective,
you know a lot of people have questioned the you know,
the rim protection and just as they're gonna have an
of size, that's a pretty obvious one. I mean, feel
free to talk about that if that's kind of what
comes to mind. But is there anything from a just
basketball perspective that you're interested to see or maybe I
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don't want to say concern, but just maybe a challenge
that this team could have when when basketball games actually start.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, I think size definitely. We saw some guys like
Read Bailey and Sam Alexis. They didn't I want, I
want to say they disappointed at practice, but they didn't
necessarily stand out in terms of the plays they were making.
I know Devreesa talked about for Alexis kind of working
on the perimeter. He took like three or four threes,
and I don't think made a single one at the
open practice that at least I saw and Read. I
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know there was a lot of comments about Reed's kind
of quickness despite his length.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I didn't necessarily see that in the open practice.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
I know in the first open practice some people I
was talking to some friends and they said he looked
really good. But I think the size is definitely concerned.
And then another thing that I don't know if we
saw was a negative in practice, but just chemistry going
into the season. We don't know who's going to be
that guy who lifts this team up. We don't know
how these guys are going to interact with each other
when they face adversity. So just working on chemistry and
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stuff in addition to the size. But the shooting looked
really good. I think that's a positive that a lot
of Indiana basketball fans would like to hear.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Is that from what we saw.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
In practice, the team kind of shoot the cover off
the ball, contested threes, open threes. Maybe not at Hoos
Your Hoops on Kirkwood with the lighting there. They missed
a lot on the three point contest, but in practice
they were they were shooting and cover up the ball.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
That was I meant to ask you that earlier. What
was How was the actual basketball at hoos Your Hoops
on Kirkwood? Was it just shooting contests? And obviously I'm
guessing there wasn't a dunk contest. That's another thing they
used to drive me in, saying, who's your hysteria? Was
there would be a dunk contest and there there usually
be one or two guys that could complete the dunks,
but there would be a player or two out there
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that would repeatedly miss dunks, and it was like the
crowd had to get them going to actually complete the
dunks and you almost bad for they tried to have
like an almost like an NBA All Star Game to
style dunk contest, and that it's difficult to do to
pull it off and make it look good. So I'm
assuming that the dunk contest was not happening, and who's
your hoops on Kirkwood?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Yeah, thankfully, no dunk contest, No like actual play. The
first thing was they like warmed up a little bit.
They had a three point contest. They had Nick Dorn
lead things off, which was interesting because he, I mean,
he's been kind of coming back from an injury, hasn't
fully practiced.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I think he shot.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
There was fifteen shots from the three point like three
different spots left center right. He went I think two
or three for fifteen. So not the best start for
the for Nick Dorn there. It was probably tough. I
can't I didn't see from their perspective what it looked like,
but I'm sure the lighting wasn't great. It wasn't the
best kind of perspective for the shooter, I can imagine
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with just the stample gates behind them. But then they
went back and forth between the women's team and the
men's team Lamar Wilkerson won the three point contest. I
think his he shot like nine for fifteen is first
shract eras first go around and went maybe eight for
fifteen or nine for fifteen again the second go around.
They had trick shots Shaye Chesky above upstairs and then
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as probably everyone has seen transistently making it from the
balcony above five guys on like his seventh attempt, which
people won't say it, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Other than that, not a ton of basketball was played.
They played a game of Knockout, which a member of
the student athletic board, like a girl, she was probably
the shortest person on the court. Was just lights out.
I mean she made probably twelve out of fifteen, made
her last eight shots, and she beat both men's and
women's players from Indiana's programs, So that got a pretty
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loud year. But other than that, I think that was
I think that was the only basketball that was actually
played on the court, but it didn't really need to
be played. It was fun regardless of just getting to
see kind of the personalities behind the faces and stuff,
and I think that's the biggest thing for students as well.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Quinn, you were not supposed to spoil the fact that
it took Trent Sislely multiple tents. I mean that that
was a perfect media shot and now it's and now
it's it's ruined for everybody.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
It's ruined for everyone that thought that that was a
good omen for the season. Now they're like, oh no, oh, no,
oh no, it took many tries, but it's true. J Chesky,
unfortunately and her seven tries, could not make it from upstairs.
Though she had a tougher angle, Trent Cisly was able
to bank it in.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Does she draw a rim at all?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
She got closed.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I think she hit the rim on her fourth out
of fifth shot, but she did not. She did not
have the luck of being able to bake it off
the backboard like Trent Sisley had.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
So last thing.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Before we we wrap up this episode, I want to
get back to football a little bit, because you've been
obviously watching that. We've been not we've we've were covering
it this season on Inside the Hall for the first time.
Josh has done a tremendous job and at least having
a lot of fun with that. You're having a lot
of fun with the IDs, But what's the feeling just
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on campus about this team and their prospects to actually
go out and win this game at Oregon. It's obviously
they're going to be a you know, an underdog, but
I was looking at some of the probabilities. I think
that ESPNF Football Power Index has them. It was in
the preseason it was like a nineteen percent chance to win.
They've got them now close to thirty percent chance, so
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not not nothing. Obviously that it also has them favored
to win the game at Penn State. So kind of
a load of question here. I'm just kind of curious
what the what the feeling is there in Bloomington about
Indiana being able to actually go on the road.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Win this game. And then also I'll change with that
then I have one one follow up, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I think it's kind of a nervous excitementment on campus,
like people are excited for this game because it's Indiana's
first chance this season to really prove themselves. But it's
also nervousness because I think a lot of people know
that we're is going to have the talent edge, most
likely is probably going to have the I mean, is
going to have the home field advantage, and will be
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favored a lot of people I've talked to have been like, Okay,
as long as we stay competitive, because that's going to
be really honestly a key and in my perspective, like
even if it's not competitive in the eye test, if
it's competitive on paper, that'll be huge for Indiana come December,
come selection time. Because you look at a Indiana schedule,
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there might be some slip up potential with Michigan State
or at Maryland, but like grand scheme of things, it's
at Oregon at Penn State that decides your season. So
I think with two losses, Indiana's on the bubbles. So
you've got to be competitive. But people here are excited.
People here are pumped. I know a lot of people
are going to be crowding upstairs. I think it's that
three point thirty local for us in Bloomington, like twelve
(27:50):
thirty or eleven thirty in in Pacific, could be twelve
thirty twelve thirty out out West. But yeah, fans are excited.
I mean, it's should be a good game. I'm hoping
it's a competitive game just from a journalist perspective because
those are always more fun to cover.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yo, you kind of answer there like the bubble thing
in terms of the playoff and the Oregon and Penn
State games having a lot to do with that. Realistically,
what do you think India has to do to get
back at the playoff? I mean, I think if they
only lose one of those two, if they only lose
one game, they're likely going to be in. But if
they lose both, do you think how much do you
think it matters? How close those games are and obviously
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what other teams do around the country.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Too, it matters. It matters a ton. I think for sure,
if Indiana lose is just one game, they're in the playoffs.
I don't think there's a debate about that. It matters
a ton because it's gonna It's tough for me to
give an outlook right now in terms of like, will
they won't they if they lose both, because it comes
down to the final score and then the final score
of other teams. I look at a team like Florida State. Right,
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Florida State this weekend has Miami. If Florida State loses
to Miami, now they have two losses to Virginia and Miami. Right,
Florida State wins out. In a hypothetical who gets in
between an Indiana team with two losses to Penn State
and Oregon on the road or a Florida State team
with losses to Virginia and Miami. It's tough. It's tough
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to decide. I mean, it just matters final score. Those
are the kinds of teams that are going to be
on the bubble. I'll say this like, if Indiana wants
to control its own destiny, gonna have to win at
least one of the two games that Oregon or at
Penn State. If not, it's just up in the air.
It's up in the air. It's going to depend on
how many teams from the ACC megan in, whether the
Big twelve beats each other up, and then if the
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SEC can get five or six, or who's at the
top of the Big ten. It's gonna be a lot
of question marks and so it'll be really interesting to see.
But I think staying competitive puts Indiana in a really
good position for both the Penn State and Orgony, and
if those are competitive games, I really do like Indiana's
chances at making the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Again.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Well, Quinn, thanks for taking the time to come on
the show. Looking forward to having you on more as
the season go along. Welcome to Inside the Hall, Welcome
to podcasts on the Brink and on the audience is
going to be excited to read your story. Went I
know we talked about maybe a story coming out here
in the next couple of days.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
What are you working on just in terms of basketball
right now.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah, So I've got kind of a player feature background
that should be coming out. I'm not sure entirely quite yet,
but it's in the works. I've talked to a lot
of people and i think it should be a really
interesting one. And then I'll have a story coming out
either later today or maybe tomorrow about the event and
just kind of the meaning behind it and stuff. A
lot of what we talked about here on the podcast today.
(30:33):
But yeah, I got a lot of things in the works.
I'm really excited to kind of get into basketball season.
Crossover is going to be a lot of taxing energy
on me, but it's gonna be fun regardless. It's super
exciting to cover all of these programs. There's a ton
of new stories to tell, both in the men's and
women's side. Yeah, I'm super excited to be a part
of Inside the Hall. Was pumped to get my intro
(30:54):
out there and can't wait for all the stories that
I have to come.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Absolutely well, we're looking forward to to reading everything and
looking forward to continuing reading your football coverage over at.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
The IDEs too. I know you're doing a great job
with that, So thanks again for coming on the show.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
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Welcome back to a new episode of Podcast on the
Brink Friday, October third, any and a basketball beginning to
get more into the swing of things here with media
day and open practice. Earlier this week Thursday night they
had the event down on Kirkwood, which we're going to
talk about a little bit on this episode, and tonight
(00:40):
Cream and Crimson scrimmage at Assembly Hall. So a lot
going on now. Obviously football is still on full swing,
but a bye week there before they go on the
road next week to take on Oregon out in Eugene.
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on Podcasts on the Brink, we've got one of our
new student writers, Quinn Richards who which Quinn, I'm not
sure I'm trying to unmute you from talking here.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
It's not letting me do it.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
On mind.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I think you should be good now, okay good.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Quinn is actually just had his intro post this morning
on Inside the Hall. Is currently working for the IDs
covering football, so kind to be doing split duty here
over the next couple of months while he's obviously focused
on football, but going to do some basketball and also
women's basketball stuff for Inside the Hall of the season.
Welcome to the show, Quinn, Welcome to Inside the Hall.
Good to be talking to you on this Friday morning.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, it's super good to be here. As excited to
finally get my intro out there. Have been waiting on
that for a while. And it's gonna be a good
year the crossover season. Obviously, we're gonna we're gonna grind
through it. But excited to get into the basketball season.
And it's really cool to kind of go to that
open practice and then the event last night to get
into the swing of things and get back into the
basketball mindset. Ya.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
What this is your first year I think covering football.
What's just been that what's been that experience been like
so far? Obviously things have gone well, Indiana's five and zero.
A lot of excitement obviously around campus.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I'm sure the.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Student bodies super excited about the team start, but just
curious from a media perspective and what you observed so
far through the first five weeks of the season, what
that's been like. Yeah, it's been It's been really fun.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Obviously, kind of Indiana's had the microscope put on them
after last season and making the playoffs and stuff, and
what I've what I've kind of told people with covering
football is it's different because you kind of see the
game from a lot further out, I mean quite literally
with the press box and stuff. But it's it's a
lot tougher to watch it and from that perspective and
in terms of going back to film and stuff. But
it's been really fun to cover them, and obviously with
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the national spotlight, there's a lot of politics that definitely
go into football, I'd say probably more than there would
be in basketball, and just kind of figuring out, you know,
what is ESPN saying, what are these other outlets saying.
But it's been a good experience. Obviously, there's a ton
of storylines there in the football program, and I'm the columnist,
So I have my very free reign to kind of
hit whatever I want to and touch on a lot
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of things and kind of have fun with it, especially
early in the season when Indiana was just rolling through teams.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, I was going to ask you for those first
couple of games. Obviously, the Old Dominion game was a
little bit closer than most people thought, but the first
three games were I think pretty much penciled in as
wins before the season even started. As a columnist. What's
your approach on games that aren't necessarily going to be competitive.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And what you can take from those games?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
From that game and specific the Indiana State game, I
actually was like, Okay, I just want to have fun
with this, right, I'm the columnist. I'm just going to
have free ran. So in the second half of that game,
it was already like fifty something to nothing. I mean,
we knew, we knew it was going to be not close.
I just left the press box. I went into the stadium.
I was going up and down the student sections because
there were just like one or two students to an
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entire row, and I was like, why are you guys
still here? And so I started writing my story about
like you know, the students that were there for the
money line. I was talking to some guys in the band.
My lead for that story was something about when I
was in high school in the band of my high
school team losing zero to forty six or something, and
that's kind of the vibe it was, and happened to
be on a Friday night. So just try to find
the stories that maybe aren't getting told because everyone's going
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to throw the statistics out there, but I probably had
five or six statistics and the rest of it was
just what people were saying in the in the student
section in the stadium, the few Indiana State fans that
I could find, and it was a ton of fun
rating honestly, probably one of the most enjoyable stories I've
been able to write since becoming a writer.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So you were down on Kirkwood last night for the
first ever Hoosier Hoops on Kirkwood. Obviously, this event has,
I don't want to say, replaced Who's Your a stare area,
but instead of having one night where Admittedly, as someone
who's been covering Who's Your Steria for a long time,
I think the event got a little bit stale over time.
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It was in many years longer than it need to
be super drawn out. I like the idea of getting
people down on Kirkwood, having you know, just a different environment,
and then also having the scrimmage tonight. So it's going
to be interesting just to see kind of the attendant tonight.
But I'm curious, just last night you were down there
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on Kirkwood, what were some of the main takeaways from
the event. Obviously not any real basketball being played, there's
obviously some trick shots and different shooting contests, but just
what was the vibe down there and kind of what
was the turnout like for the first ever Who's your
hoops on Kirkwood.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah, I would say I would say vibes are pretty high.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I got there an hour and a half before it
even started to make sure I could get a front
row seat. But it was a good thing I did,
because it started getting pack behind me. I mean I
was on the very edge of the metal gated kind
of court that they brought in the temporary court, and
there was probably seven or eight rows of people behind
me on that side. Then across the way you had
upstairs pub overlooking the court. Really cool for those people
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up there. I think my biggest takeaway was just the
understanding that this new kind of era with Darren Derees
in this holy roster has of the importance of the
students and the fan base and connecting with them, because
in my opinion, it felt like that had been something
that was kind of pushed away on the back burner
for Indiana basketball, like understanding the students. Indiana for a
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long time relied on, like, hey, look we have our history,
we have our banners, but the real, the core of
it is getting in touch with the students.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
If you're relying on the past, you're alienate, alienating the present.
I think that's what kind of Debrees is working to change.
And you saw that, you saw that.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Today or sorry last night.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Debrez at the end of the thing was like, okay,
everyone at upstairs, I'm buying you drinks tonight.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
He had a quote in there that I loved.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
It was like, you know what makes the space this
place special when you go into assembly hall and you
see the banners, But you know what really makes this
place special, it's this right here. It showed just with
that sentence he understands, he gets it that the core
of this fan base needs to be the students. It's
a college team, obviously that's going to be the key,
and I think this was a huge step in the
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right direction for that. There were some issues. Obviously, there
were some mike issues. Trent Sisily's name wasn't even called
because the microphone completely cut out for his name.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Uh So that.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Was that was tough, But overall it was really cool.
Sidney Parrish was there, kind of MCing for the women's team,
Griffin Gonzalez for the men's team. But it was It
was an awesome, I think event for for mostly the students.
I'm not sure for the older fans it's something that
they like more than Who's Your Hysteria? But I personally
think that for this program, this was a much better event.
As you mentioned Who's Your Hysteria? I mean with the
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attendance and stuff like, it looked sparse, it was kind
of long to sit through. This event was an hour.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
From when the players first got there to when they
left the court. It was an hour long. I think
that was the perfect amount of time, good music throughout
and stuff. It was a good, good experience overall.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, I was at some of the very first Who's
Your hysterias, which were quite a while ago, in twenty
five years ago. I don't exactly know what year it began,
but it used to be almost like it was a
midnight madness type of practice. I don't know if you
remember that that term, but sure teams couldn't actually start
practicing until midnight on a certain day, so they would
actually have people come in at midnight and they would kick.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Off the season with an event.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Now that actually meant something because it was actually symbolic
of the practice actually starting. But over time, who's your
hysteria in many ways, you know, changed and we had
a couple of years ago there was there was a
concert involved in the end. I think two straight years
Indiana brought in some musical acts to do concerts. And
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in many ways it's always been a recruiting event. But
I think with the changes in IL and just everything,
how recruiting changes now, it makes sense to kind of
differentiate these events a little bit. And I think instead
of having a night that goes two and a half
three hours long, you break it up, have this event
on Kirkwood and then tonight. My understanding is it's going
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to be a forty roughly forty minute scrimmage that I
expect to last about ninety minutes, but that's much more manageable. Also,
giving people a chance to kind of see the team
in a different venue, having everyone down on Kirkwood in
more relaxed environment, I think that's a great thing.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I mean, I'm not asking you to estimate the crowd
or how many people were there, but was it, you know,
five hundred people, a thousand people? What would you kind
of surmise was the attendance down there last night?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I mean, there had to have been at least two
hundred people at upstairs alone. I would say it's closer
to a thousand. I think overall. I had a roommate
ask me, it's like, you think it was more people
than who's yourysteria? Was like, probably less people than who's
your hysteria? But I think it didn't necessarily matter when
the excitement was actually there, right, Like, if you're bringing
in two thousand people for your hysteria in a seventeen
thousand capacities state like Arena, it looks a whole lot
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worse than when you have a packed Kirkwood Avenue. But
it was packed like it was genuinely. There were a
ton of people on the front rows trying to get looks.
There are people standing up on balconies, a ton of
people from their apartments that.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Overlooked had really good views. But yeah, it was it
was a good atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
And then just even up and down the street, people
walking by just stopping to kind of take a peek.
And even students who maybe otherwise wouldn't care about basketball
just because of the event were We're curious and interested.
But I think it's a big step. Like I mentioned, like,
who's your hysteria students had to go to Assembly all.
Now they brought the basketball team to the students, and
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I think that just shows you what Indiana's really trying
to do now with with debrees at the Helm.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, I think you make a good point about the
attendance too for hysteria. You know, when I first started
inside the hall, in some of those years where Crean
had Indiana ranked in the top five or ten in
the country, there were years where the lower bowl and
was completely full Assembly Hall and you had people in
the balcony. The last couple of years, obviously they've had
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decent solid crowds there, but nothing like those. So I
think that kind of speaks to the idea that maybe
changing this up and it's a good time to do
it right. A new regime is in a new coaching staff.
And the other thing I'll say is just Darren DeVries. Obviously,
what ultimately matters with any coaching staff is wins and losses.
He's not going to be judged on what he does
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in terms of opening access to the media or opening
more opportunities for the fan base to interact. But I
do think it's a good idea when you're trying to
build a culture and relationship with the fan base that
you allow more opportunities for your team to be in
front of the fan base. It felt like the last
couple of years that Indiana was really closed off from
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just a public in general. And having those opportunities for
for media to go watch practice, we can write observations
and share what we're seeing from the team. Talking to players,
you get more or you get better responses when you
have an open locker room type setting, rather than just
selling guys on a podium and getting canned answers and
then having the Hoosier the hot Hall of Hoops, which
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is going to be brought back at the end of
the month this year, something that Tom Crean had formally
in Indiana. That's another way you build a fan base
by allowing some of the younger kids that you know,
maybe don't get to come to Assembly Hall for a
game during the season because it's too late past their bedtime,
think their parents can bring them in. They have a
chance to meet the players, get candy. So I think
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that's just another thing that they've done to really try
to bridge some of the you know, relationship between the
fan base. It's it's has been broken in the last
couple of years.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I mean it's it's it's a it's a conceded effort
you can tell to to kind of make that happen.
And I think they're off to a really good start.
And I mean they're smart. Coach Derees is definitely a
smart guy. He knows that from a media perspective, when
we're going in for for open practice and stuff, especially
with this this kind of team, it's tough for us.
We're not gonna write negative stuff, Like it's really tough
to write a negative story about a player who hasn't played.
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So they know that you know it's gonna be good
publicity for them. I don't think it was a coincidence
that after the event last night, Derese came over to
shake hands just right in front of a bunch of
media people that were filming it, you know what I mean, Like,
he's a smart guy and he kind of knows that
and they're playing that game.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
But it's it's great for the program, right.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
It's great for us as media, we get the access,
we get more stories, but it's also great for the program,
great for the students, and great for the fans.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
So this was my second time watching practice. I went
earlier to some of the first time. For you, what
were when you had a chance to watch the practice?
It was I think about ninety minutes. As you said,
there's there's really nothing negative to take away from it
because it's you know, it's a lot of a lot
of shots going in, a lot of you know, positive
energy in the arena. We'll obviously know a lot more
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about this team, probably when they play that exhibition game
against Baylor in Indianapolis later this month. But I'm just
curious what your thoughts were watching some of the new
guys get a chance to go through practice on Tuesday
at Assembly Hall.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Really, just the energy is what stood out to me
right away. With the student manager's clabbing. It's tough because
we can't compare this to the past because there was
just never this opportunity in the past and the Mike
Woodson regime to watch a practice, so we can only
really go off of what we've heard. I've heard Mike
Woodson was kind of in your face, like he will
chew you out at practice and stuff, and he is
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a guy who you know, would would like to hear
himself talk in all honesty for better or for worse.
DeVries kind of sat back. I don't know if you
noticed that too, Like it seemed like he was willing
to take kind of a back seat. Not that he
wasn't watching practice or doing anything like that. He was
certainly attentive, but he would let his assistant coaches kind
of take over the reins. He would let his veteran
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players kind of lead run throughs and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
So that stood out to me.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
In terms of players, I think one guy that really
stood out to me was Tayton Connorway. He looked just
like a savvy vett through and through Like, there's a
couple plays when they were whether it was drills, he
had a one on one drill with Sam alexis a
much bigger defender, and he was in the post shot
clock running down kind with like a back shoulder pump
fake and up like just look like a veteran out there.
I think he's gonna be a guy that's fun to watch.
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Lamar Wilkerson just a ton of high energy. You can
tell that guy's got personality, a good sense of humor,
but not in a distracting sense. He was still locked in,
still focused, still kind of leading his teammates. But the
biggest thing, yeah, would just be the energy you had
the student managers just clapping it up after every single play,
Every single student manager, every player, when they would go
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through the run throughs, would repeat the set, repeat the play.
And I think Devrez has talked about that. He's like,
that's the culture we want to build. And it was
on display. And how much of that was was show
for the media, I guess we will never know. But
if it was a show for the media, they did
a pretty good job putting it on.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, I'm sure things were dialed back a little bit,
just in terms of the actual coaching that was going on.
Who knows, the players may have actually been glad to
have us there because maybe it was a bit of
an easier day. But the one thing I'll say is
is just you can all the if you notice, derees
kind of have like a piece of paper, and the
assistant coaches did everything on the on the clock was timed,
(16:33):
and everything kind of moved along on a schedule, so
it was basically like we're going to do whatever it was,
twelve or fifteen things, and we're going to do them
in the X amount of time, and we're going to
be really focused on that thing while we're doing it.
There wasn't a lot of wasted time. I mean, there
was obviously a few small breaks for water and maybe
(16:54):
a you know, a couple other thing instances where it
would stop and given instruction to somebody, But overall, I
was just impressed with this is kind of goes for
both practices, how efficient things were, just in terms of
covering a lot of ground. And it started out with
kind of going over a ton of offensive sets and
(17:15):
working on passing nothing at game speed. But I think
it was just kind of a run through of like,
this is what we're we've maybe installed lately. We're going
to go, you know, make sure everything is being executed
as playing. Then when they got into the actual work,
after they did some stretching there, everything was done with
like one hundred and ten percent energy. They were all engaged.
They were all, as you said, clapping for each other.
There wasn't anyone that was not watching what was going on,
(17:38):
no one joking off to the side. It was very
business like in the approach. And you know, I know
it's a cliche to say, but you know, you practice
how you play, and so I think it bodes well
just in terms of the organization and you have efficiency
that this team in this program are going to operate with.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
From watching practice, I think it's a good sign. You know.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I want maybe I want to ask you, you know
about at Sicily And I'm not sure if you watched
him closely at all, but he was the guy that
really stood out to me just in terms of his
energy and kind of the way he approached the game
doing a lot of little things. I can see him
being a guy that not just because not just because
of the fact that he's from Indiana, but the way
he approaches the game and his knack for getting his
(18:20):
hand on the ball, whether it's on the offensive or defensive.
Glass makes a lot of unselfish plays, makes a lot
of winning plays. I think he's a guy that fans
are going to really gravitate towards. Any any thoughts on
what you saw out of him, and do you agree
with with kind of just what you saw in terms
of him doing the little things and making the hustle place.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yeah, I agree. And he looked surprisingly comfortable for being
a freshman in the team with a ton of vets,
a ton of guys with a ton of college basketball experience. Like,
he looked comfortable, and he made those plays. He made
the hustle plays. He was kind of relentless on defense.
You could tell he's got that passion, that intensity on
the defensive end, which I think sometimes you don't necessarily
(19:00):
from a freshman coming into this kind of environment.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
But he looks dialed in. I think Devris mentioned that
he was like, yeah, like he's done a really good job.
He hasn't fallen behind much. We threw him into the fire,
straight into it with like this is going to be
an intense practice, but he's kind of handled it, handled
it well. Obviously he's got a great physical frame. He's
put on some weight since coming over from Mountain Verd.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
But yeah, no, he looked good.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
He had a nice dunk, and it seems like his
teammates really like him. I heard a couple of times
Eli there would go Trent, you know what I mean,
just hyping him up. On one occasion, Trent was on
the right side of the floor, Lamar was on the
left side, and Lamar doing his own thing. Notice Trent
on the right side make a nice play, and he
like cheer him ond He's like, there you go, Trent, Like,
nice play, Keep that up. So I think that's super
(19:43):
super helpful for a guy like Trent Sisley to have
those teammates around him that are kind of boosting him
and helping him up. But also, yeah, I mean, Trent's
got the skills I think to be a contributing piece
on this team. It'll be interesting to see how much
DeVries would like to use him, especially early on in
the season. But yeah, that's It's definitely a guy to
watch moving forward for in the enna, and I think
(20:04):
he would one hundred percent be a fan favorite if
he kind of gets going.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I think he's definitely a guy that's positioned himself for
a rotation role. I'm not saying he's going to start
or play twenty five minutes a game, but I definitely
see even when the competition stiffens, he's going to be
a guy that are gonna be comfortable putting on the
on the court, whether it's against Kentucky or Marquette or Alabama.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
A and M.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I think he's going to have a somewhat of a
role for most of most if not all, the season
on this team. You know, obviously, a lot of what
we've talked about is positive, and everything in the preseason
is projecting, and there's a lot of things that people
feel good about with the new coaching regime. But when
you look at this team on paper and kind of
what you saw in practice, are there one or two
(20:48):
things that you're curious to see, like how it works
out when the season actually starts. From a basketball perspective,
you know a lot of people have questioned the you know,
the rim protection and just as they're gonna have an
of size, that's a pretty obvious one. I mean, feel
free to talk about that if that's kind of what
comes to mind. But is there anything from a just
basketball perspective that you're interested to see or maybe I
(21:09):
don't want to say concern, but just maybe a challenge
that this team could have when when basketball games actually start.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, I think size definitely. We saw some guys like
Read Bailey and Sam Alexis. They didn't I want, I
want to say they disappointed at practice, but they didn't
necessarily stand out in terms of the plays they were making.
I know Devreesa talked about for Alexis kind of working
on the perimeter. He took like three or four threes,
and I don't think made a single one at the
open practice that at least I saw and Read. I
(21:38):
know there was a lot of comments about Reed's kind
of quickness despite his length.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I didn't necessarily see that in the open practice.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
I know in the first open practice some people I
was talking to some friends and they said he looked
really good. But I think the size is definitely concerned.
And then another thing that I don't know if we
saw was a negative in practice, but just chemistry going
into the season. We don't know who's going to be
that guy who lifts this team up. We don't know
how these guys are going to interact with each other
when they face adversity. So just working on chemistry and
(22:09):
stuff in addition to the size. But the shooting looked
really good. I think that's a positive that a lot
of Indiana basketball fans would like to hear.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Is that from what we saw.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
In practice, the team kind of shoot the cover off
the ball, contested threes, open threes. Maybe not at Hoos
Your Hoops on Kirkwood with the lighting there. They missed
a lot on the three point contest, but in practice
they were they were shooting and cover up the ball.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
That was I meant to ask you that earlier. What
was How was the actual basketball at hoos Your Hoops
on Kirkwood? Was it just shooting contests? And obviously I'm
guessing there wasn't a dunk contest. That's another thing they
used to drive me in, saying, who's your hysteria? Was
there would be a dunk contest and there there usually
be one or two guys that could complete the dunks,
but there would be a player or two out there
(22:55):
that would repeatedly miss dunks, and it was like the
crowd had to get them going to actually complete the
dunks and you almost bad for they tried to have
like an almost like an NBA All Star Game to
style dunk contest, and that it's difficult to do to
pull it off and make it look good. So I'm
assuming that the dunk contest was not happening, and who's
your hoops on Kirkwood?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Yeah, thankfully, no dunk contest, No like actual play. The
first thing was they like warmed up a little bit.
They had a three point contest. They had Nick Dorn
lead things off, which was interesting because he, I mean,
he's been kind of coming back from an injury, hasn't
fully practiced.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I think he shot.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
There was fifteen shots from the three point like three
different spots left center right. He went I think two
or three for fifteen. So not the best start for
the for Nick Dorn there. It was probably tough. I
can't I didn't see from their perspective what it looked like,
but I'm sure the lighting wasn't great. It wasn't the
best kind of perspective for the shooter, I can imagine
(23:52):
with just the stample gates behind them. But then they
went back and forth between the women's team and the
men's team Lamar Wilkerson won the three point contest. I
think his he shot like nine for fifteen is first
shract eras first go around and went maybe eight for
fifteen or nine for fifteen again the second go around.
They had trick shots Shaye Chesky above upstairs and then
(24:15):
as probably everyone has seen transistently making it from the
balcony above five guys on like his seventh attempt, which
people won't say it, but it's true.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Other than that, not a ton of basketball was played.
They played a game of Knockout, which a member of
the student athletic board, like a girl, she was probably
the shortest person on the court. Was just lights out.
I mean she made probably twelve out of fifteen, made
her last eight shots, and she beat both men's and
women's players from Indiana's programs, So that got a pretty
(24:47):
loud year. But other than that, I think that was
I think that was the only basketball that was actually
played on the court, but it didn't really need to
be played. It was fun regardless of just getting to
see kind of the personalities behind the faces and stuff,
and I think that's the biggest thing for students as well.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Quinn, you were not supposed to spoil the fact that
it took Trent Sislely multiple tents. I mean that that
was a perfect media shot and now it's and now
it's it's ruined for everybody.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
It's ruined for everyone that thought that that was a
good omen for the season. Now they're like, oh no, oh, no,
oh no, it took many tries, but it's true. J Chesky,
unfortunately and her seven tries, could not make it from upstairs.
Though she had a tougher angle, Trent Cisly was able
to bank it in.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Does she draw a rim at all?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
She got closed.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I think she hit the rim on her fourth out
of fifth shot, but she did not. She did not
have the luck of being able to bake it off
the backboard like Trent Sisley had.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
So last thing.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Before we we wrap up this episode, I want to
get back to football a little bit, because you've been
obviously watching that. We've been not we've we've were covering
it this season on Inside the Hall for the first time.
Josh has done a tremendous job and at least having
a lot of fun with that. You're having a lot
of fun with the IDs, But what's the feeling just
(26:05):
on campus about this team and their prospects to actually
go out and win this game at Oregon. It's obviously
they're going to be a you know, an underdog, but
I was looking at some of the probabilities. I think
that ESPNF Football Power Index has them. It was in
the preseason it was like a nineteen percent chance to win.
They've got them now close to thirty percent chance, so
(26:28):
not not nothing. Obviously that it also has them favored
to win the game at Penn State. So kind of
a load of question here. I'm just kind of curious
what the what the feeling is there in Bloomington about
Indiana being able to actually go on the road.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Win this game. And then also I'll change with that
then I have one one follow up, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I think it's kind of a nervous excitementment on campus,
like people are excited for this game because it's Indiana's
first chance this season to really prove themselves. But it's
also nervousness because I think a lot of people know
that we're is going to have the talent edge, most
likely is probably going to have the I mean, is
going to have the home field advantage, and will be
(27:07):
favored a lot of people I've talked to have been like, Okay,
as long as we stay competitive, because that's going to
be really honestly a key and in my perspective, like
even if it's not competitive in the eye test, if
it's competitive on paper, that'll be huge for Indiana come December,
come selection time. Because you look at a Indiana schedule,
(27:27):
there might be some slip up potential with Michigan State
or at Maryland, but like grand scheme of things, it's
at Oregon at Penn State that decides your season. So
I think with two losses, Indiana's on the bubbles. So
you've got to be competitive. But people here are excited.
People here are pumped. I know a lot of people
are going to be crowding upstairs. I think it's that
three point thirty local for us in Bloomington, like twelve
(27:50):
thirty or eleven thirty in in Pacific, could be twelve
thirty twelve thirty out out West. But yeah, fans are excited.
I mean, it's should be a good game. I'm hoping
it's a competitive game just from a journalist perspective because
those are always more fun to cover.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yo, you kind of answer there like the bubble thing
in terms of the playoff and the Oregon and Penn
State games having a lot to do with that. Realistically,
what do you think India has to do to get
back at the playoff? I mean, I think if they
only lose one of those two, if they only lose
one game, they're likely going to be in. But if
they lose both, do you think how much do you
think it matters? How close those games are and obviously
(28:30):
what other teams do around the country.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Too, it matters. It matters a ton. I think for sure,
if Indiana lose is just one game, they're in the playoffs.
I don't think there's a debate about that. It matters
a ton because it's gonna It's tough for me to
give an outlook right now in terms of like, will
they won't they if they lose both, because it comes
down to the final score and then the final score
of other teams. I look at a team like Florida State. Right,
(28:53):
Florida State this weekend has Miami. If Florida State loses
to Miami, now they have two losses to Virginia and Miami. Right,
Florida State wins out. In a hypothetical who gets in
between an Indiana team with two losses to Penn State
and Oregon on the road or a Florida State team
with losses to Virginia and Miami. It's tough. It's tough
(29:13):
to decide. I mean, it just matters final score. Those
are the kinds of teams that are going to be
on the bubble. I'll say this like, if Indiana wants
to control its own destiny, gonna have to win at
least one of the two games that Oregon or at
Penn State. If not, it's just up in the air.
It's up in the air. It's going to depend on
how many teams from the ACC megan in, whether the
Big twelve beats each other up, and then if the
(29:36):
SEC can get five or six, or who's at the
top of the Big ten. It's gonna be a lot
of question marks and so it'll be really interesting to see.
But I think staying competitive puts Indiana in a really
good position for both the Penn State and Orgony, and
if those are competitive games, I really do like Indiana's
chances at making the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Again.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Well, Quinn, thanks for taking the time to come on
the show. Looking forward to having you on more as
the season go along. Welcome to Inside the Hall, Welcome
to podcasts on the Brink and on the audience is
going to be excited to read your story. Went I
know we talked about maybe a story coming out here
in the next couple of days.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
What are you working on just in terms of basketball
right now.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah, So I've got kind of a player feature background
that should be coming out. I'm not sure entirely quite yet,
but it's in the works. I've talked to a lot
of people and i think it should be a really
interesting one. And then I'll have a story coming out
either later today or maybe tomorrow about the event and
just kind of the meaning behind it and stuff. A
lot of what we talked about here on the podcast today.
(30:33):
But yeah, I got a lot of things in the works.
I'm really excited to kind of get into basketball season.
Crossover is going to be a lot of taxing energy
on me, but it's gonna be fun regardless. It's super
exciting to cover all of these programs. There's a ton
of new stories to tell, both in the men's and
women's side. Yeah, I'm super excited to be a part
of Inside the Hall. Was pumped to get my intro
(30:54):
out there and can't wait for all the stories that
I have to come.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Absolutely well, we're looking forward to to reading everything and
looking forward to continuing reading your football coverage over at.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
The IDEs too. I know you're doing a great job
with that, So thanks again for coming on the show.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Thanks everybody as always for listening to Podcasts on the Brink.
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