PCJ Classic - Roar: The Most Dangerous Movie Ever Made

In this classic episode, the Junkies talk about the lighthearted family comedy/snuff film their producers made them watch: Roar, also called "The Most Dangerous Movie Ever Made." While Shauna and Olivia weren't impressed with the whisper-thin plot and so-so acting (even though it stars Tippi Hedren and Melanie Griffith), they couldn't help but be awed by the choices made by producer Noel Marshall and his family, and not in a good way. Between 70-120 members of the cast and crew were mauled, maimed, scalped, bitten and broken during production - but the Junkies have all the reasons you need to see this movie anyway, like using it as the basis of a life-threatening drinking game. (Disclaimer: no animals or humans were injured in the making of this podcast. The same cannot be said for Roar.) 

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Olivia and I are taking a little summer vacation, but Pop Culture Junkie never takes a break.

(00:05):
Please enjoy an encore of our episode looking at the most dangerous movie ever made:
Roar!
♪ Entertain me, Entertain me right now! ♪
So for this week, our producers actually asked us to watch a very strange and kind of obscure movie.
So obscure.

(00:25):
That you may have heard of or may not have, which we'll tell you all about today, called Roar.
And it has been coined as the most dangerous movie ever made.
And to really understand why Roar is often called the most dangerous movie ever made,
we need to start with its inspiration, Tippy Hendren, who's known for her Alfred Hitchcock role, The Birds.

(00:49):
And her husband Noel Marshall, who's passionate animal activists.
- I love that. - But what they did.
And whenever they first got this terrible idea, they made this new idea.
This terrible idea is they went on a safari and it does kind of feel like White Savior goes on African safari once and says, "I could do that."

(01:10):
I think I could fix everything here.
There's nothing wrong.
Well, you know what I mean.
Yes, and much like the Tiger King himself, they were really fascinated by big cats.
- And they never financially recovered.
- They don't.
I mean, they may have financially recovered from it.
- Maybe not.
- But what's crazy about this is so they go on the safari and they decide, okay, we want to make a movie about a scientist trying to prove that big cats are good and can cohabitate.

(01:41):
And worthy of protecting and all this stuff.
So in their LA mansion, they decide that they are going to start adopting big cats as cubs and raise them amongst their like small children just to make this movie.
And so from the time that the kids were pretty young, they were raising these big cats alongside them with the dream to actually make this movie.

(02:08):
- The big cats that they raised are those the ones that are in the movie with them.
- Some of them, but no, a lot of the animals that we see in this movie are like wild animals.
- Yeah.
- It's pretty crazy.
- Me watching this movie by myself and then my husband walking in and just going, what the fuck is going on?
- That man just kept mulled by a lion.

(02:29):
- Yes, actually, he did.
- Yeah, and so when we first decided we were going to do this, you look it up on Wikipedia and it's described as an American comedy adventure film.
- Nothing funny about this movie.
- And it's simply audacity.
- And you would literally think it would get set to horror movie like jaw style but put lions in there.

(02:52):
- Or like trying to make it fun.
- Yeah.
So much of this movie has to be in proff just because of its nature.
- Yeah.
- Because there is a very loose script.
There's a plot in there somewhere.
But you can't really have a script and a plot if your co-stars are literal wild animals.

(03:17):
So like to describe this to people listening, they have this family.
Well, it's this man, the scientist, right?
And he lives in this house with lions and tigers and papyrus.
- Like a cop.
- He is so mulled.
- Yeah.
Like all the types of big cats as a scientist.
- There's dozens of these things.
- Out there and is trying to do like conservation and convince like these poachers not to kill all the big cats.

(03:41):
- Yes.
- And so he's kind of doing this experiment.
And in very straightforward dialogue that you heard.
- Straight forward dialogue.
- The rest of the family is coming to visit this man.
- And the estranged wife.
- Yeah, estranged wife.
- They're going to visit him.
He gives them no prep.
- No.
- Even how to really get there.
He's like, get on the bus.

(04:02):
- Like pass away when you get here.
- Don't worry.
- Yeah.
- Tells them nothing about how to handle a lion or a big cat.
Anything like he doesn't say don't run.
Don't do that.
- It doesn't do shit.
- It's like if you were just going to put someone in a pack of like a ring of bears and be like, good luck.
- It's like me inviting Olivia to my house and not warning her that I have a cat.
- Yeah.

(04:23):
- And then she walks in and it's like, wise by throat closing.
- And I'm like, just fine.
She's nice to look at her rubbing her on your face.
- Yeah.
- Literally the director, Noel is also starring in it.
And the only dialogue he has is just don't run.
- Act like you're bigger than them.
It's like all he says the whole time, but he couldn't put it in a letter.

(04:44):
- Yeah, no.
- But you know what's funny is I still can't wrap my head around.
His dialogue in the movie is actually just us watching this man tell his co-stars things.
Because people are being actually mulled on camera in this movie.
It's not fake.
We're watching people actually blood dripping down their faces.

(05:07):
And he's like, it's fine.
Just don't run.
Roll over and I'm just reciting their mouths open.
Like, no, he's literally, we're watching a person get mulled by a tiger.
- It's actually crazy.
And so, yeah, untrained animals, not even like these, it's insane.
- So they're trying to follow this plot, but again, things get sidetracked a lot because animals can't read.

(05:31):
- You have to read your notes.
So Shana text me and she's like, the acting in this is so bad.
And I'm like, how do you act when you might die?
- No.
- So I have three notes from watching the movie.
Three.
Number one.
Wow, this acting is awful.
Number two.
Holy shit, this is insane.

(05:53):
Number three.
- Those tigers in your water just want to play LOL.
That's it.
There's tigers jump on these boats that these people are there and they submerge the boat underwater.
And then you can tell just like, they're just like, oh, we play now.
- So cute.
- And so cute.
- And the human's under the water.

(06:14):
- It is so cute.
- And then the span emerges with just blood streaming down his face.
- It is crazy.
- So we'll talk a little bit about the injuries that came from it.
Now 70 people on Casting Crew were harmed in the making of this film.
- I guess I want to mention that Melanie Griffith is in this movie.
- Yes.

(06:35):
- Like an actual well-known actress.
- Yeah.
- I do not know that until I turn it on.
- It's their daughter.
- Yeah.
- What?
- I did not read that part.
- Yeah.
- It's like holy shit.
Watch out.
- Why is Melanie Griffith here?
- What's she doing?
- She was one of the kids raised among the lions.
- Stuff.
- Five.
- In LA, yeah.
It's a big thing.

(06:56):
- All I did was turn on this movie and watch lions.
I watched Kiddie's.
- She didn't know.
She's just cute.
- She did Kiddie's.
Oh my God.
- It goes splish blash.
- It goes splish blash and both.
- So no martial art is the main character.
- That's Melanie Griffith's dad.
- Yeah.
So Melanie Griffith's stepdad.
- Shit.
- Yup.
- She put his daughter in the back of the house.

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- Yes.
- Listen, I understand the intention and I agree preserve wildlife.
- This isn't a good argument.
- Don't that babe.

(09:36):
- Fuck with wildlife.
- Don't insert yourself into this and be like, oh, I can live with them.
Oh, it's great.
It's going to be fun.
It's giving in note when they had the monkey on the set.
- Like, oh, we contain the monkey and then he mulls everyone.
- Yeah.
- Obviously, that's fiction.
But wild animals are not your pets and they're not your roommates.

(10:00):
- Right.
- And there are ways that we can preach conservation without...
- Yeah, this was not...
- This was not the argument they thought.
In fact, it's like, oh my god, no, we cannot cohabitate, which is even crazier.
- Exactly.
- That's what I thought too.
I was like, if he's making the argument throughout this film, that big cats are important
and should be saved and protected.

(10:21):
Yes, I agree with that.
But then you produce this whole film that just shows people screaming and running and being
mulled.
- Yeah, so...
- So, at the end of the film, you're like, oh, I don't want to be around these guys.
They're going to kill me.
- Yeah.
Well, I was reading somewhere that they thought they could make the movie in six months, but
it would take them three million to do it all.

(10:42):
Now, not just working with wild, unpredictable animals, the set...
Like, this film should have never been made because not only were animals attacking everyone
everywhere, it was filmed near LA.
- It was in the United States.
- Yeah, but there was a flooding incident that actually flooded the entire set and lost

(11:03):
a lot of it away.
- It's like a really big, full set.
- Animals were being temporarily displaced or some of them even passed away in the flooding.
- Yeah.
- With crew challenges, we talked a lot about the injuries from the animals, but then there
was also numerous cases of gang green.
- There's so much gang green.
- Like, literally, no martial-contracted gang green from these numerous.

(11:27):
- I love you, Sid and Tex earlier, and it auto-cracked it to gang green.
And it ran, it was like, how's the dragon?
- Yeah.
- Sweet shit, are you gang green now?
Allison, what are you doing here?
- I'm doing shit.
- We seem black.
- Listen, gang green.
- Gang green.
- Yes, lots of people got gang green.
- Yes.
- And two lions died because of the flooding and I think they escaped.

(11:51):
- Yeah, and they were shot by authorities.
- They, I don't want to, you know, they escaped.
- It's crazy to think about there were wildfires also.
- Yeah.
- God did not, whatever, did not want this movie to come out.
- The main character, lion, which is a stupid sentence.

(12:13):
- Robbie?
- Yeah, Robbie died.
- Yeah, yeah, that was actually, actually died.
- He actually won the escape.
- Yes.
- So the tiger that played, is Robbie, is they, what a stupid, fucking name is a lion?
- Yeah.
- That tiger.
- Little name Robert.
- Robert L. Tiger.
- I don't know.
- Robert L. Tiger.
- I don't know.
- Robert L. Tiger.
- Do you think they're the same thing?

(12:35):
- Robert T. Lion.
- Robert T. Lion.
- Sean learned nothing.
She's still stuck on the little swimming tiger.
- So listen, they were big meow meow.
I was in a toast watched it with me.
She's like, that's me.
- I know, sweetie, that's you.
- You're cute, you're cute.
- You're cute.
- Much of those fishes.
- You'll never mull my face.
- Oh, that one died by me.
- Robbie died.

(12:56):
- Robbie escaped during filming and authorities shot him.
- And he was replaced with a look-a-like lion for the rest of filming.
- Oh wow.
- I don't know what was going on.
- I just can't get him out there.
- I don't know.
- Oh my god, this is another Meet the Falkers reference.
(laughs)
When he loses Robert's nearest cat and finds the other one like timepaste.

(13:17):
- This tail black.
- Yeah.
- And it's like.
- You're kidding.
- It's you.
- I will say, I thought it was so funny how hard they tried to commit to the lion story line.
- Like the fighting story line.
- Yeah, like they were like really trying to put him in there.
- And then at the end they were like, it's just too chaotic.
We can't even do it.
- These lions are following direction in the slightest.

(13:39):
Like they were like, he's really going for it.
It's all the problem.
And then Josie ended.
She was like, "Ahhhhhh."
- At one point in the hallway.
I'm gonna get stuff laughing at this stupid fucking movie.
At one point in the hallway, all of the lions are in the house and they all leave.
And there's one tiger.
Like keep saying tiger.
There's one lion that's still laying there.
And he's walking up.

(14:00):
He's like, "Oh, come on.
You don't want to hear with your buddies."
- Come on.
And like sad music kicks in.
And then you could tell that he's ad-libbing and he's like, "Your dad's gonna be okay."
- Don't worry about it.
- You gotta go out there, boy.
- You gotta go out there and be with your other buds.
And the lion's just like, "Rahhh."
- And the lion.
- I don't speak English.

(14:21):
- It got like 7th heaven for a second.
Like somehow.
Like the music slightly played.
- It was like light piano.
- And the music was like,
"I found that wheat pipe in your backpack, buddy."
- You gotta know drugs aren't cool.
- It's okay that you kissed your sister because you wanted to know what a kiss felt like.
- Oh no, oh god.
- You don't remember that episode of 7th heaven?

(14:42):
- I forgot about it.
- Oh my god.
- Yeah.
- It's giving out of the dragon again.
- Yeah.
- Again.
- Upsass.
- When he walks in, like,
- I was a little liger dragon.
- A liger?
- Yeah.
- I was a liger.
That's what we're calling this.
- You renamed it.
- I'm gonna cut.
- I was gonna say something.

(15:04):
But everything is just so stupid that I can't remember what I was gonna say.
Deep cleansing breaths.
Please, everyone watch this.
Maybe I stringed it for free on YouTube.
The entire thing is on YouTube.
- Oh, I watched it on the flash drive.
- Oh, I know.
- That's smarter.
No, I think it would be a great drinking game with friends.

(15:25):
- Oh my god.
- Any time somebody, any time you see blood that you go, "That's not prop blood."
I'm watching an actual person.
- You might die, though.
- Have a drink.
- I guess by the time this comes out, we should release our official roar drinking game.
- You and I need to play it first to make sure we don't pass away.
- Yeah, that's probably pretty true.

(15:45):
So if you see it, then we didn't die.
- We don't condone binge drinking.
I love you and I are.
- No.
- Go into it, knowing that it is a very bad movie, but it is very worth it.
- If you're squeamish, don't watch it.
I would say watch it just, I didn't know about this until our producers told us about it.

(16:09):
I'm so glad that I have this rep in my brain now.
It's got a cult following because it's insane that people made it.
- Literally the most.
The budget just went so above and beyond because like you said earlier, the set was destroyed
in that flood.
- Yeah.
- It should rebuild the entire set and they said they could do it in six years, ended up taking

(16:30):
like what, four years or something crazy.
- Yeah.
- It took a lot of time.
It took a lot more money than they thought I would.
And then they recently released it by only the sun, John, would help with promoting of the
film.
- I think Griffith interestingly still is like I think that big cats and humans should

(16:55):
come have a day or you think that.
- Or really?
- But I think this was just a crazy white savior movie.
Like I could do that.
Let me bring them to a way.
- Yeah.
And they do some little thing in the beginning where they thank the tribe that appears unfilm.
That you can tell it's an actual indigenous African tribe.
- And it was something that all of a sudden made me laugh in the beginning of the movie where

(17:16):
like even though it might seem like animals are harmed in this movie, none of them actually
were.
- Like what about the humans man?
- Well and the two lions that were born by the police.
To be fair, when they it shows like at the end like the lions are being shot.
It's with tranquilizer darts and they said it's because they used the tranquilizer darts

(17:39):
to put the lions to go meanies.
And it's time for their vaccines to get their nails clipped or whatever.
So they just shot them with the tranquilizer darts and then we're like, all right we have
one as well give them their flu vaccines while they're out.
So I think that's what they meant.
But they just conveniently kind of brushed over the lions that died.

(18:02):
- The Robbie the lead star that died.
- And another reason to go a cab.
- They killed the lion.
- They killed the tiger.
- They killed Robbie.
- They killed Robbie.
- They killed Robbie.
- They killed Robbie and Tonka.
- Toobar.
- Toobar.
- I don't remember.
- I don't remember.
- Like I said they didn't really stick to the lion plot too long.

(18:23):
- The lion plot is very loose here.
- But the lion plot was probably the best part of it and even then it still wasn't good.
- They tried to convince animals that they have lions in a plot in a movie and they just
see what happens.
- You're mad at him.
- Yeah.
- Now go.
- They're like, "Oh shit, they're licking each other's genitals."
- Yeah.

(18:43):
- Oh I'm cut.
- Honestly the cut I just kept doing, they were like, "That's, that bino made a better."
- We have time now.
- Yeah.
- We play?
I take that.
- This should have had more tiger swimming.
Only review and note that I have for it.
- The acting is bad.
Holy shit this is insane.
Oh my god the tigers are swimming.
LOL.
Done.

(19:04):
That's it.
- Yeah, absolutely.
Well I think, you know, let's continue.
After this movie, you know, we started to use CGI animals a lot more especially when it
came to lions and tigers and bears.
And I think that we should continue that trend and support land.

(19:25):
- I agree.
- Let's exploit animals.
Yeah, let's dedicate some land.
Let's support them in that way.
And not, you know, Melanie Griffiths head.
- Yeah, no notes.
- I agree.
- So I bless Melanie Griffiths skull and scalp.
- Yeah, I wonder if insurance, like ever insured him ever again.

(19:45):
- Oh my god, right.
- You did it right?
- No.
- You killed me.
- I'm never gonna funny.
- I actually recovered from it.
- No, Marshall, I think your policy was cut.
- He's done.
- Stay far.
- We're just not gonna back here.
- Like a good neighbor, we're moving away.
- Yeah.
- I don't know why I got country.
- Before this, he actually also produced the exorcist, which is, I think we talked about

(20:09):
in this podcast before, like it being cursed and the set being cursed.
Some people say this also had the curse of the exorcist, just kind of marinating on top.
- What an ambitious choice.
- Exorcism to lion.
- I mean, those are two of my favorite things.
- Demons and lions.
- Yes.

(20:30):
- Okay.
- Demons and cats.
- Oh, okay.
- He's a goth.
- Yeah, they're going.
TSS detaining him.
- You just went to goth over the last few years.
We need to teach you to go into this little room.
- So the toba-tunka, whatever, is he the goth flying then?
Because he is the darker.

(20:51):
- He was the one covered in blood a lot too, huh?
- Yeah, that's pretty goth.
- Oh, absolutely.
Oh, he's metal as fuck.
- Okay, okay.
There we go.
Like we said, bad movie, highly recommend watching.
It's like the killer sloth movie, the sloth movie.
- Oh yeah, I haven't watched the sloth in eight years.
- Oh, it's so good.
We might have to do that one next for my god.
- Oh my god.

(21:12):
- Weird, crazy, funky animal movies.
- I would love to watch that.
There's no part of me that doesn't want to watch that
unless the sloth dies.
- Well, it's like an evil sloth.
- I know, but he's still a good boy.
- I want to get like really, really stoned
and watch his hilariously bad scary animal movie.
Like it just scratches an itch.
- I recently did eight legged freaks.

(21:33):
- Oh my God. - So good.
- I watched that with my husband like within the last year.
- It's so good. - I did not get crazy, high and watch it.
- Yeah, for slightly drunk.
- Luzer. - Luzer.
(laughs)
- But no, highly recommend.
So maybe we'll do a few of those.
- It sounds like a creature feature.
- A creature feature.
- I mean, I love me some cocaine bear.
- Oh.

(21:53):
(laughs)
- I love me so cocaine bear.
- The film.
- That is such a good one.
I want more Elizabeth thanks.
- I want more cocaine movies.
- Bear. - Yeah.
- Type movies.
- Yes, the cadence.
The cadence is important.
- Elizabeth Banks, maybe.
- The more Elizabeth Banks.
- Creature features for you.
- Yeah, with cocaine.
- With cocaine.

(22:14):
- If there happens to be animals on cocaine.
- That's funny.
She just goes through and makes them all.
- Cocaine cat.
- She'll be cocaine horse.
- She re-makes roar, but he's just a cocaine lion.
- The actual lion subplot is there.
- Going over like a mob boss.
(laughs)
- But for realism,

(22:34):
she make it a direct sequel to roar.
They actually give actual lions cocaine.
- Yeah.
(laughs)
- We need it for realism sake.
- Yeah.
- Put my stepdaughter in there and see how she does.
Go.
(laughs)
- Well, I'd make that movie.
- God, she was scound.
- Shit.
- I think we're gonna get the backing of the studios.

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- Oh, it does.
- Well, I think this about wraps this one up
before Sean and I descend into
- I'm gonna pee myself.
- Absolute madness of giggles.
We definitely die in the Sims after this one.
- We're dying.
(laughs)
- Now before we go home to our domesticated furry,

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sweet, non-vicious friends.
(laughs)
Let's tell our listeners how they can find us.
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