PTR Ep 488 Are You The Hero or The Villian

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to another episode of Prepper Talk Radio Radio for
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going to talk about are you the hero of your
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right now today we're going to be talking about the hero.
Are you the hero of your story or the villain?
So let's jump let's jump into it. I know this
was we we'd talked about it. I think Scott was
one of the ones that came.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Up with the idea.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
He shared a few clips with us to kind of
give us some motivation, and so let's let's jump right in. Scott,
what do you have to share? Do you want to
start us talk?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I think all of us we've we've watched too many
action flicks and resonated with the hero, right or resonated
with Rocky. I'm the underdog. I'm gonna survive this, I'm
going to get through it. I'm the hero. But we
forget that to somebody else, were a villain. You know,
someone comes and asks you for food, you're the villain

(03:05):
when you say no, Right, And so I wanted to
have a discussion on that because the very reality of
life is that it's going to get extremely hard to
know who really is a hero and who really is
a villain. I think it's the edge of a knife,
and it's case by case, not character by character I shared,

(03:27):
I don't. I don't think I shared this with both
of you. But there was a video that I watched
with Simon Sinek and he was talking about the movie
and Glorious Bastards. This came up after we talked about
this is a topic, and he talked about how there's
a particular character in that movie, and I forget the
actor's name, but he was like one of the best
villains of all time. Like I think he won a

(03:49):
major award for that. But everyone was like he was
so terrifying, he was such a good villain. And they
interviewed him and they're like, what did you have to
do to get in that mindset that he was such
a villain. And his response was simply he's like he
wasn't a villain, and it was like what he was right?

(04:13):
And that made me go, holy crap, that is our topic,
Like one hundred percent. If you believe you're right, if
you have a moral connection to your stance, you think
you're the hero, right. And if someone's morally opposed to
your ideology right, you think they're the villain. And so

(04:34):
we've got we're gonna be really, it's gonna be really
interesting to see who's who right in the upcoming apocalypse.
For lack of a better way to put it, so,
who are you? Are you the hero or the villain
or or are you as as it was stated earlier
by our field by Field Tech, he's like, he's like,

(04:55):
I'm one hundred percent of hero villain. I'm gonna we're
gonna need some explanation on that to help us understand
that better.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
But like, what's interesting is they've they've got a lot
of movies now where the anti hero mm hmm is
the is the one that saves the world. And it's
kind of like, what what's an anti hero? And it's
kind of like the guy that is that he was
not a good guy in before the disaster, before the
world was being threatened by whatever, and then all of
a sudden, he's the only guy that can save it.

(05:21):
I mean, think about uh, you know, one of the
one one example of my one of my favorite examples
is the movie Riddick. Ridick was not a good guy necessarily,
but he's the only one that could fight and beat
the under the world guy and when the whole you know,

(05:42):
save the basically saved the universe because he was well,
and he was the only one that.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Could do it.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
And then there's several others too that are the same thing.
We've seen a lot of, like I know, a kid
one for the kids is Mega Mind. Mega Mind is
a perfect example of who's the hero, who's the villain?
And really what is whose story is really the story
that we're telling, you know. So it's kind of a
funny I think Mega Mind came. It really embodies that

(06:08):
idea of like, wait a minute, the villain who was
supposed to be the villain, and he was only the
villain because everybody told me was the villain. And then
when people started telling him he was the hero, he
became the hero, which is.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Kind of like Colin's comment here as well, you know,
hero of villain tendencies. I don't know for me speaking
for myself. You know, it's a long story, right, we
talked about the story. This is a long story for me,
you know, speaking of my own story, right, is we
can call it the natural man if we want to
go down that route. Right, that's the villain, right, that's

(06:44):
the villain. We're all kind of we were we grew
up with that. We're it's our natural tendency to be
the villain, right, we're looking at for ourselves. You know,
it's about survival and that's what it takes. Like you say,
Riddick some of my favorite shows, and yeah, he is,
he's the ultimate survivalist. And uh, I think as we

(07:07):
are story progresses, as we go down that path, that's
where we become the hero. But we still see our
villainous past. So like hero with villain tendencies. Yeah, absolutely,
because naturally our natural tendencies, our natural side is to
be the villain. And maybe that's not the right way
for me to describe it myself. I don't see myself

(07:30):
ever as a villain but selfish. Yeah, yeah, especially at first, right,
and then as the story progresses, the eyes open, uh,
and you see the real purpose of life. Maybe I'm
getting way too too far ahead of myself or the show, right, But.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I don't think you are. But I think I think
anti hero makes a little more sense. I mean, think
about peppers. We're unconventional. We our eyes are open, our
ears are open, we can hear, we can see this
tastes funny. Right, everything is going on is weird. We
try to tell people the truth and nobody wants to

(08:09):
listen to us. They think we're the bad guy. We're
hoarding right, Oh, you're the bad guy. You're hoarding all
the toilet paper, you know, during during the RONA shutdowns. Wow,
you're the bad guy or whatever else. I can't find
band aids because then what do you need like band aids? Really,

(08:29):
that's your issue. And we've got our art, not our stockpile.
We've got our storehouse. Everything's used, everything's rotated, right, and
everyone's freaking out. We're the bad guys. And the reality
is in that scenario, if we go back to the
toilet paper crisis of what is it twenty twenty one

(08:50):
in Utah, at least, like none of the preppers are
the ones that were buying the toilet paper and hoarding it.
We already had our toilet paper, of your supply of
toilet paper. We're gonna we're gonna wait and crap it
out while everyone else is figuring it out like we
were good. It was the people who weren't prepared that
became the villain of the scenario. But we got blamed

(09:11):
for it. And in the future, guess who's gonna get blamed.
We are, Yeah, But in the further further future. I
think that's where we see the anti hero is the prepper. Right.
We're not who everybody wants to rely on, We're not
whoeverready wants to look up to, but we're the only
one that's going to be there saying, hey, come with

(09:34):
me if you want to live right.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Well, another part of this whole thing is that every
time you see a show, whether it's where there is
a hero that needs to rise up and do something
to save somebody, a lot of times when they're first
initially they're just living their best life. They're just doing
their thing. They don't want to they don't want the fame,

(09:58):
they don't want the fortune, they don't want anything. They're
just living their life. And then all of a sudden,
like somebody comes to them, you know, in the movies
and the TV shows, we see somebody comes to them
and says, you are the chosen one, and they're like, well, no,
I'm just a dude. What do you mean? Leave me alone?
You know, and they run away from it in many cases,
and then all of a sudden they get beat up,

(10:20):
or they get hurt, or they get something happens, or
they realize, you know what I do need to be
the hero. I am the guy that's going to take
care of this. And so then they start to prepare,
they go work out, they do, you know, And I
love the movies because it's always that, you know, the
music pumps up, you know, and you see them in
there doing their thing. And a perfect example of this
is the is the cartoon Hercules, Like Hercules does not

(10:42):
want to be the hero, and then he meets the
little Sader guy yeah or whatever he is, and yeah,
and he totally like gets some working out and you
see all the music and it's like and even in
the you know, the movie Mulan, you know, they're they're
it's just a bunch of miss fits in this group.
And then all of a sudden, the you know, the
guy says, you know, we got to fight to you know,

(11:05):
and he sings the whole song, and everybody's they're always
working out and they're training and they're learning the skills,
and you know, in in you know, ten minutes or
five minutes of movie time, they are now masters of
the of martial arts or whatever, you know what I mean.
Like somehow and to me though, it just comes to
the point where it's like, Okay, what what's the principle here?
What's the what's the principle that we can learn from

(11:26):
in this right now? And it's like, stop fighting against
what you know is going to eventually, inevitably probably be
the deal. So just first of all, stop fighting against it. Second,
start preparing, like already, like just get ready for whatever
life's going to throw at you. If you're you're the
hero to your kids, you're the hero to your wife,

(11:47):
you're the hero to your husband, Like you need to
be the hero to some people and to other people,
you need to just accept that you're probably gonna be
a villain to them in some kind of way, that
they've created it, and that's just that's the great adventure
of life.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Well, you, like Mike mentioned here, you know, sorry, you
know I've got enough to share. Does that make me
the a hero? But or a villain for stocking up?
For loading up?

Speaker 2 (12:16):
You know?

Speaker 3 (12:17):
And unfortunately, I think it's you know, it depends on
the person, but it's it's it's both because I think
we'll be villainized when it comes down to it. Right now,
right now, you know, I just want to be the
gray Man. But when when it hits the fan. We
are going to be the bad guys because you know what,

(12:38):
I went through some of the uh you know, conflicted
cards looking up scenarios and that that's exactly Scott. Those
are exactly before we even talked about this topic. These
are the topics that I've picked out. Are you going
to be the hero of villain? Depending on how you
make the decision? And you know, the word comes to
mind is triosh. That is not gonna make it everybody happy.

(13:01):
You can't make everybody happy when it comes down to it,
and it's going to be a heart be really difficult decisions.
We have to make those difficult decisions and triage at
that time. And we need to make those decisions now,
go through that thought process now so that we can

(13:21):
prove ourselves the villain really, because that's what it'll be.
I mean, well, I do that almost every day, standing
up for the decisions I make.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Right, you're not going to prove yourself the villain. And
here's my reasoning why right. It'll stick with me on this.
So for years, most of us in the chat, if
not all and all three of us have been trying
to get our families better prepared. We've been trying to
get even our brothers and sisters in other households better prepared,

(13:50):
trying to wake them up, sometimes subtly, sometimes in your face.
And for that we have been villainized by our families
and cases, or demonized or called into question as the
crazy conspiracy theorist or the kooky guy with tinfoil and
a giant storage unit. Right, so we've been made to

(14:14):
be the bad guy. But then here's what's going to
happen fast forward. When things go sideways and you can't
take away from your kids to feed somebody else's kids,
they're gonna call you the bad guy again.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Right, it's guilt trip.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
But here's the reality. The bad guy is the guy
who have every opportunity to stock up, to prepare and
take care of their family's future needs and didn't do it.
That is a prideful, selfish, villainous man who betrays himself,

(14:51):
whether it's a man or woman, right, that is the villain.
And we need to understand that. And I wanted to
preface that because we're going to go into conflicted cards
and we're going to talk about some of these scenarios
and the whole point of this is to really understand,
am I making the better decision for my family's needs?
Am I being a good steward for my family's needs?

(15:13):
Because that is your stewardship. Yes, love and help your family,
your your brothers, your sisters, your aunts, your uncles around
your dad. Love and help them as much as you can,
but not at the cost of hurting your kids or yourself,
because you can't. As Shamee talked about triage, you can't
triage a situation and help if you're the one that's

(15:35):
bleeding out.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
I really like what you just said, Scott, that's true
because the guy who could have prepared but didn't, that's
the real villain because they were they didn't prepare properly,
and that's you know, that's we're all gonna have to
make a decision as to whether or not we're going
to help that kind of a person. But at the
end of the day, that's they They if you, if
you were, if you could have done something to protect

(16:00):
yourself and you didn't. Quite frankly, that's on you, you know,
and and you can be justified, one hundred percent justified
in allowing that person to kind of say, well, you
know what, you wanted to be by yourself before. Let's
just keep that going now, see it. I like that.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
And the thing that also comes to mind again is
the you know, the parable of the ten virgins, right,
And I wanted to bring this up to illustrate a
point real quickly, is that of these ten, of these
ten virgins, only five were prepared. Were they bad people? No,
they were not. They were looking forward to the coming

(16:41):
of the bridegroom. But they what does what did Christ
say when they want to be admitted? Says, you don't
you don't know me, I don't know you, right, And
so these people were not bad people. And so when
we say villain, okay, maybe that's a little hard, right,

(17:01):
but it will ultimately come down to and I don't
know the right words to describe this, but precision or
being being obedient, being precise. But you know, that's the
words that come to my mind, is that people tend
to blame others for their well, for everything, really yeah,

(17:26):
and at this point, you know, at that point, people
will say, well, why didn't you tell me, you know,
or have some something someone to blame something to say,
and are they bad people? No, they're not.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
But but you know, yeah, there's a there's a reality too,
will be held accountable to things that we could have done.
Because here's the real in my this is my opinion,
there there are things that are so readily available to

(18:02):
know that we could just, with a little bit of effort,
go and learn them. And if somebody is so lazy
that they're not willing to put forth a little bit
of effort to change their situation, then that's part of
the problem, is that they just that's on them and
they could have learned and they will be held accountable, like, hey,

(18:23):
you had this available to you. There's libraries, there's internet,
there's all kinds of things that we could learn, but
you wanted to go party or do something else, or
go to the lake or buy your you know, whatever
you wanted to do instead of actually preparing them. And
in financially speaking, I really just I'm working diligently to

(18:45):
help people because people, so many people want to spend
tomorrow's money today, so they go into debt hoping that
they're going to have everything's going to stay wonderful and great,
and they're going to their income is going to continue,
and unfortunately we've been lulled into a false sense of security.
Of those kinds of things are real, and I'm wonder like, look,
we need to change spending our money, our tomorrow's money

(19:05):
today to spending yesterday's money today. So save first and
then buy. And that's a prepper. That's a prepper's mindset anyways,
Like you need to be ready for something before you engage.
And that's something that I think that all of us,
we all have. We can't blame the fact that we
didn't know. It's like a police officer when he pulls
you over. I didn't know, but you knew that there

(19:27):
was a sign on the side of the road that
you could have looked to see what the feed limit was.
And so there's some common sense that's not so common anymore,
quite frankly, but there's some things like that. I think
we're gonna still be held accountable. God's gonna be like, look,
you should have could have, and you had a plenty
of people around you telling you, but you didn't do
anything about it. So that's on you. Bro.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
It's the story of the guy who fell off the
cliff and grabbed the tree branch or the root sticking
out of the cliff, grabbed a hold of it and
is like, oh, okay, I got it. They looks up
and he's like I can't get up, and it looks
down and he's like I can't get down. And he
starts praying to God and he's like, God help me,
God help me, God help me. And a search helicopter

(20:09):
comes flying by, like hey, you need hand. He's like no,
I'm waiting for God, and they fly off. I'm like,
what a weirdo. Somebody else comes across the stop and
they'm like, hey, we got rope. You want us toss
it down to help you? And he's like no, waiting
for God. And eventually the guy's arms get tired and
he falls and he dies and he gets to the
other side and he's like God, why didn't you help me?
And God's like, first of all, I put up a

(20:32):
guardrail to keep you from falling off the cliff, and
you went and climbed over it. Anyways. Second of all,
I sent you two people to rescue you, with resources
and everything you needed, and you waved them off. So yes,
you're accountable to those choices. We likewise, are accountable to
our choices. We get to deal with the consequences of

(20:53):
whatever we choose good or bad. That's that's how life works,
That's how agency works. Some people get away with evil
for quite a while and it looks good, but eventually
it's going to catch up to them. We we have
to take responsibility and take action. And when we're warned,

(21:14):
it is our duty to warn our neighbor. Yes, but
it's imperative, as Shamee was talking about, like, we have
to take precise action to make sure that we create
the level of resilience. We need to create the level
of protection that we need so that we can move
forward through whatever's coming.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
And what happens is when when you warn someone, I mean,
what what's their reaction? Typically, I can tell you my
reactions that I get. Yeah, they brush you off a minimum.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
The people get down, They fight you back, fight back, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, they push back. And why is that? Because they're
not willing to do what it takes. They don't want
to see the truth.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
M okay.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
I mean that's pretty short explanation on my own.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
They've been told to lie so long that they now
believe it is the truth, and if anyone presents them
with the truth, however accurate it is, they're going to
tell you that you're the liar. Yep, and that's that's
the problem. And so now we fast forward into a disaster.
We fast forward into a scenario where now they need help.

(22:30):
You're once again the bad guy. You're bad for telling
him it's going to be a problem. You're bad for
telling him how to get prepared. And now you're bad
because you're not going to be able to share with
them without hurting yourself and you're not willing to risk
it to save their bacon, so to speak. Right, in
most cases, maybe maybe you will be right. If God

(22:51):
tells me, hey, share your food with that people, those people,
I will. If God tells me don't even open the door,
I won't even open the door. My hoping prayers that
I'll be in tune enough to know when to open
the door and when not to.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, exactly when.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
To share a bowl of food and when not to
who will be safe and who won't be But that
that doesn't mean that I only listen for that inspiration.
Because God gave us all these senses, gave us all
these abilities. He gave us a rational mind so that
we can actually look at scenarios and say, huh, those
guys are coming with pitchfork pitchforks and fires, and that

(23:28):
doesn't look safe. Let's keep everything boarded up and turn
all the lights off, right, don't go outside and meet
him and see if what the Lord says once you
get there, you know, keep yourself safe first. And that's
the problem. A lot of people just don't. They don't
put enough into their own ability to trust and to
do what's right and to prepare in advance. And that's

(23:51):
I've got family members who are still like, man, if
something happens, we're coming to your house, and I keep
telling them, now you're not. I've got a shove in
the backyard. We're ready to bury the people we need to.
And they're like, well, you won't really do that, and
I'm like, I really will if I have to. Yeah,
And then I go, hey, what do I have to do?
And then I tell them and they still don't do it.

(24:11):
I'm not going to risk my kids for their absolute
prideful nature to say I'm going to just take yours
or I don't have to do this, I can rely
on you. That's a level of pride and disgust for
the value of other people that I won't tolerate in
an emergency. Right, if someone didn't know any better and

(24:35):
wasn't prepared, I'm more likely to help them. But if
someone did know better, they're not getting my help unless
I'm told otherwise by God, which you tell Mike just
asked this question, turn away children? Right? Would you turn
away children? I don't think I can. I've tried to
prepare extra and have clothing and food for kids different

(24:57):
sizes so that I can share with kids. But do
you think I'm going to pass along food to the
parents and everybody else? It just depends. It's gonna be
a really tight call. Like I'll be honest, it's gonna
be a really tight call. But I would like to
try and feed every kid I can possibly feed. I
think that opens us up to some good scenarios. You

(25:18):
got some ready for us, Shane, Of course you.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Kidding me, so, yeah, first one I picked out here.
This is from the original Conflicted Deck, the very first
one I think, And of course this is the Ace right.
It's the Ace right. So this is basically the same
what you're just saying here, Scott. It says you have
your food storage in place, six months worth of food
and water for you and your family. One of your

(25:42):
friends comes knocking saying that his home has been ransacked.
They have nothing but the clothes on their backs, and
they need a place to stay. Your friend has very
few useful skills, and taking them in would cut down
your supply timeline in half. At this time, there is
no way you can replenish your aplies without risking your
own life in one way or another. Would you open

(26:04):
your home and your supplies to your friends and his
family or wouldn't you Why? And I'm on the exactly
same page as you, Scott, I would have to say no.
I actually would have to say no because first thought
is okay, where where do you stop? Where do you limit? That?

(26:28):
That means other people are going to come? And this
is compromising everything that I've worked hard for a decade
or more to prepare for. And I have raised my
voice as often as loudly as I can as I could.
And again, Triage, they have to make the difficult decisions.

(26:53):
Will I give them something and turn them away? Yeah? Absolutely,
I will prepare a box and say we just you know,
we just can't do that with and without explanation, because
I already have I already know that explanation in my mind,
but we cannot save everyone is just not possible.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Well, give us an example of the explanation in your mind.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Well, I've kind of explain you know, explain that a
little bit. But I have you know, grandkids already, I
have you know, very close friends and neighbors. Uh I,
you know this card kind of alluded to this was
probably not a really close friend mm hmm. But and
not that that and that that probably does matter. You know,

(27:40):
triage does come down to the fine and the small decisions,
the fine points, and again that'd be very difficult. I've
never been through that, and who knows how I will
actually really react. But that's why I need to make
these decisions now.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
But if I give them give away things that will
compromise my family's survival possibilities, their needs, then I'm not
a very good father, if you ask me.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
So, I just had an idea. Figure out where the
local food pantry is, draw out maps, have them, you know,
stacked up next to your door, and be like, oh,
there's a food pantry. Go right now there you go, right,
send them on their way with at least some instruction.
If you can give them some food to give them
a meal. That's fine, But like the reality is is

(28:38):
it's their own doing. This is hard to say. Like
the father and me never wants my kids to suffer, right,
but I have to let them suffer when they do
something stupid and there are consequences. I have to let
them go through those consequences or guess what, they don't
learn anything, and then they expect me to save them
all the time. That associate, right, not necessarily the kind

(29:05):
of friend. It's the same. It's the same thing. Yeah,
and no one's coming to save me. If I don't
do enough, how can I afford to save them? Right?
And so you have you absolutely have to be prepared
now to have that conversation and to be able to

(29:26):
send them away, but also to be able to continue
to defend your property if they come back, because they
may come back with other people and say, hey, look,
we know you've got food, you're given it to us.
Then what.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Then you have to have a really tough conversation or
kinetic that.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Honestly, that's one of the scenarios that I've played out
a million times in my mind. And it's it's your
past conversation when they come back armed. When they come
back armed with a mob your past conversation, Yeah, you
have to have alternative plans designed and developed and set
up so that you can keep your family safe because
as soon as you go kinetic, they're gonna get hurt.

(30:09):
You're gonna get hurt. There's gonna be loss of lives everywhere. Like,
you have to be really really prepared for that.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, not good.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, Shannon actually had. We did a ready Man challenge
years ago where we went up into the mountains with
a bunch of other preppers and there was the prepper
group that they they're like, oh, yeah, bring your seventy
to our kit. They didn't give us any information on
the scenario. I'm like, tell us what we're planning for,

(30:39):
and he goes, nope, you don't get a no. So
we came with our backpacks and they gave us these
ir vests with shockers inside and a little halo head
thing and so and then they gave us all these
laser pointer guns like we're playing like military style laser
tag in the woods. And then they gave this other
group they're militia there. What do they call them? I

(31:01):
don't know. I don't even remember all the they were
the bad guys, they were the villains. But they basically
gave these other guys a camp, gave them all the
food and water and everything they needed, and gave them
all the gear and told them where we would be.
Then they gave us a map of where they would
be and told us here's the scenario. They raided your place.

(31:22):
Now you're tracking them down and you're going to try
to find them and engage him tomorrow. And so they're like,
go hike up the mountain, find someone to sleep for night. Well,
then they told the other guys got to attack them tonight,
go and attack us tonight. So we got ambushed. Everybody
got killed. And then we're like what's going on And
they're like, well it started. I'm like, no, you told

(31:43):
us wouldn't start till tomorrow. Like, we just want to
see what you do. I think Shane was the only
one that took anybody down that first night.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Now, first night, I was taken completely unaware. I was
not even expecting anything like that to first start. It
was a day when I kick them butt.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
The next day, we actually I nag anyone to the
place we positioned ourselves. We took them all out and
then they go, oh, there's a problem with your ir vests.
We don't. We dispute the win, and they went around
checked everybody, and we had a couple of people who
didn't have their ir vest on right, but the rest
of us did, and so they nullified our win and

(32:24):
started over. So like, long story short, I don't know
why I'm telling the story right, but what I'm trying
to say is that you don't know what's going to happen,
and in a kinetic situation, it goes sideways.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Super fast, and nobody wins.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Nobody really wins that unless you have a tank with
three sixty degrees worth of fire ability at range and
close up, like I don't know that this thing exists
that can be operated by one person and that it's
completely bulletproof and impenetrable by anything. Then you've got a
chance right rolled that out of their and take out

(33:00):
all your enemies. But until then, you gotta make some
smart choices, all right, Scenario number.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Two, your turn, one of your turn.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
I didn't even break out my cards because I wasn't
I was planning on talking more, and then I got
I'm gonna pull this one.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Out I gotta know what, Scott, if you want me to.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Go, oh, go ahead, Okay, I'll pull one ready, all
right again from the original deck conflicted cards, Russia, China, Iran,
North Korea, and Venezuela declared war against the United States
due to the death of the dollar.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
That sounds familiar. This was actually uh use you like
from twenty fifteen, so ten years ago, yeah, which led
to a complete collapse of the global Fiat money system.
This has been in the works for a long time. People.
They blamed the US government for ruining the global financial markets,
and you are using propaganda to get the support of

(34:00):
their own people. Your country's president has gone on TV
and declared that there are rough times ahead and that
all citizens need to prepare for World War three. What
would you do after hearing that, Paris, You're first.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Well, I mean it sounds like an actual serious scenario.
But what's funny about world War three is that how
many times have we had World War three declared in
the last five to ten years? You know, like, I
think we're on our fifteenth or tenth or fifteenth time
that everybody's like, oh, world War three is coming. So
it's a little bit yeah, it's a little bit of Okay,

(34:39):
I'll wait and see if it's actually going to happen.
And then one of the other things too, is that
what I've realized is, you know, let's talk about really quickly,
the idea of a hero and a villain. Those are
those are completely opposing factions, like one of them. And
when in going back to the movie Mega Mind, when

(35:02):
Superman decided he wasn't going to be a hero anymore,
Mega Mind had nothing to do.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
There was like it.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Really took the wind out of his sales. He had
nothing to fight for, and so he had to create
an opposer. He had to create this this villain villain.
He created a superhero, He created a superhero to be
in order.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
To stay the villain of matrocity. Yes, everything he learned
in schul was that he was the villain and he
needed a new hero to fight.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, he needed to have an opposer. And so one
of the things I think about is like, what are
these world powers really doing? Like are we really why
can't we just live peacefully? Well, because they want to
be the heroes, and you can't be a hero unless
you have a villain, And are they really the heroes?
And so this whole idea of let's cause a problem

(35:56):
that we already have the solution for in order to
be the hero to save the day for the problem
we cause, well, you're actually the villain and the hero
when you do that world government, and so in my opinion,
a lot of the world wars that are coming out
is because of those sides of things. And so again
that doesn't necessarily answer the question, but it definitely gives
me a perspective as to really what's going on here.
In my opinion, this is what's going on as these

(36:17):
countries they have to find a villain. So in our
own lives we will rise up and we will fight
against something that we or cause, whether it's a person
or a cause, we will rise up and fight and
we become a hero or villain bas based on that.
And so what's going to cause One of the things

(36:39):
that I've as I read the scriptures, one of the
things that I realize is that as as Christ in
God's people become more and more righteous, or as the
devil and his kingdom become more and more wicked, it
requires a balance so that we have the wicked, the evil, darkness,
and the light. I mean, all the movies have it,
you know, the Lord of the Rings. They have the
dark darkness that's going to rule the world, and the

(37:00):
the light you know, that wants to protect the world.
And and so you know, my own story, in our
own story, who is our who are we rising up
to become against, to be able to oppose whatever the
ideology is or whatever is happening. And in this scenario,
I'm seeing like, okay, wait a minute, are we being
sucked into someone else's hero villain story because Venezuela and

(37:24):
all these nations want to fight against the United States
who became the evil villain? And the United States is like, no,
we were just trying to help the world and we
were trying to make you know, we yeah, we screwed
up a few things, but we were trying to do
the right thing. And so America thinks it's the hero.
And now Venezuela and all the other countries are like, well, no,
we're going to be the hero because we're going to

(37:44):
fight against the feel it's like, who's yeah, you see
the weird kind of just sloop spiral that's happening. And
so to me, it's almost that you need that discernment
to see, am I going to get sucked into someone
else's hero villain story or am I going to you know,
have my own story and and then realize, wait a minute,
what's the truth here?

Speaker 3 (38:03):
What?

Speaker 2 (38:03):
What did?

Speaker 1 (38:04):
What really went on? And which side do I really
want to be on? And that's something that takes a
lot of discernment in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, and uh, you know, world War one and two
were not called World War one and two during the wars, right,
it was always especially if the first one it was,
it was labeled that. Afterwards, we heard plenty of governments
and you know, even Trumps has talked the World War

(38:33):
three talk, and maybe not. I doubt they'll ever come
out and say, oh, of course they'll warn, and I
think they have been warning. But I just wanted to say,
you know, what would I do after hearing that, because
I think if we're watching, we've all heard that. We've
all heard, oh this could be you know, world War
three could happen here. I think we're already in it.

(38:55):
If we look back and the historians look back and
writing history, they'll see when it that it actually started,
you know, a long time ago, years ago. What would
I do if if that, if there was a declaration
of World War three, not a darn thing. I'm ready.
I'm okay. Maybe go to the store top off on
milk and cheese right, and dairy vegetables right, and get

(39:17):
those kinds of things. But for the most part, I
would stay home and stay away from from the public.
Maybe at that point I'm gonna say, okay, time to
bug out. I'm out of here, you know. But this
is a long process. It's not something that's gonna be okay,
go world War three, go. No, it's I think we're
in it, and it's just gonna continue to get worse.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Well, and we know it's gonna start elsewhere and then
come here, right, So you've got until they get here
to figure things out and change your situation. I don't
have the same like Okay, they they're like, it's happening, Okay,
lock the doors, come inside, make sure the top off
the water. Change a few things for your water water

(40:03):
like I would, honestly, I would change a few things
for my water use. So we'd actually move some things
into grey water containment. We'd move some stuff off the roof,
change a few things up for water catchment, but other
than that, there's not a whole lot we would do.
We would just be like, okay, here's what it is.
We would prioritize the most important things, which is keep

(40:25):
the shelter safe, security, and and our fitness or not
a fitness, our our wellness, our health, our well being right,
making sure that everyone's got the medications they need, and
things like that. Yeah, I wouldn't really need to do
a whole lot other than that. There was a comment
field Tech gave earlier about how the people in North

(40:47):
Carolina after after the floods and such, let me see
if I can find it here, had a six month
supply of food and now they're saying that we sta
had two to three years a food store. Like that's
my wife and I. Our biggest concern is we want
to get to that three mark right, not just for us,

(41:08):
but to extend past that for our group whenever we need.
But yeah, like, whatever you have never seems like it's enough. Okay,
you guys ready for another one? All right? Post apocalypse?

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Shtf has happened?

Speaker 2 (41:29):
I want you a list off five crimes that you
believe should be punishable by death. I know this is
kind of a dark one judge, not the.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
EB not judged well.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
I think stealing for sure is well. I don't know
about death, but like I love some of the South
American countries, so they just chop your hand off or whatever,
you know what I mean. It's like or Saudi Arabia
wherever that is. There's some place that just chops your
fingers off. If you steal stuff, there's got to be
some harsh especially when we're all trying to make it happen.

(42:03):
If you if you definitely capital punishment. In my opinion
is if you kill somebody, you should be no more
prisons for people. Like it's if you murder somebody like
self defense, we do should have a trial a little bit.
But if you're if you kill somebody, especially if it's
for something selfish, like to get their food or take
a few bucks from them, like you're done, dude, like

(42:26):
to have a trial real quick, maybe make sure it's legit,
and then take care of them. It was interesting, is
that book One Second After had a scenario similar to
that where somebody did something and they actually had a
public execution, so everybody knew this is the consequence, and
it was. It was kind of a really dark part

(42:47):
of the book, but it was when you do it,
you got to show people, hey, we're serious and this
is these are the rules. So I would say, murder somebody,
I you know, taking advantage of a child in a
really physical way.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
You know.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
I don't know if we can talk about that on YouTube,
but abuse.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Yes, say, well to me, you don't look to the
past to prepare for the future, right, what I always say,
And what did they do in the past? Corporal punishment, right,
I mean, that's that's what they did. That's what they
had gallows.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Oh yeah, and then go will meet me at high
noon for tomorrow for a showdown duels, and.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, I definitely agree. Like if someone's like, this is funny.
Have you guys seen the movie Love and Monsters. I
haven't seen it. It's awesome. It is so good. You
gotta watch it because it's it's it's funny. It's the
scenario is, as there was this big asteroid coming, they
nuked it, and all the nukes and all the stuff

(43:52):
they set up to nuke it, all the chemicals fell
down and it morphed all the bugs and all the
like critters into giant like giants, slugs and giant man
eating ants and all this centipedes weird stuff, right, And
so everyone lives in bunkers. And when this kid leaves
to go find the love of his life, finds out
she's eight days walk away, that she's alive and he's alive.

(44:12):
He's like, I'm gonna go, I'm going I want to
go see her. Kid has zero survival skills, leaves their
bunker and is working his way across, runs into some
other survivalists out there, and everyone's first thing when they're like,
you left your bunker, They're like, oh, you were caught
stealing weren't you. You're stealing food, like everybody you're stealing food.
Even this little robot a thing that he bumped into.

(44:33):
She's like, oh, you're out of your bunker and he's like, yeah,
did you get caught stealing food? Like yeah, first someone
stealing food, kick him out. If they try to come
back and do stuff, lose a hand. Right, there's simple things.
But someone hurts a kid, an adult man, woman, traffics
or does anything with a kid, goodbye, goodbye to them, right,

(44:56):
have zero tons for that. Someone who plots and murders goodbye.
Someone who is caught on a stealing spree where they've
done it to multiple people. Right, They're gone, Like, those
are some simple things that I'm like, get done done,
can't tolerate. There's not an opportunity for them to improve
their situation or be there's no prison to put them in, right,

(45:19):
to make them learn how to be a better person.
It's too late, and the worst tendencies are going to
come to the top. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Well, I think a lot of preppers are preparing not
just for the trials of the hard things we're going
to go through, but for coming out of the on
the other side, for recovery on the other side. What
that looks like. Really, only thing I can imagine, only
thing I see is obviously when Christ comes to rain again.

(45:50):
Think you're going to be very different. Now do we
actually need to have I see people, I'm never selling
my gold and my silfa because I'm going to need
them on the other side to rebuild civilization. Okay, let's
let's argue with that. I don't I don't agree with
that at all. You know, you can't eat it right,
use it to get what you need when the when
the time is right. So and I forgot what I

(46:13):
was going with with that entirely. Okay, ready for the
next scenario then yeah, yeah, go for it. Okay, so
you've got you've got a blood feud. So you've got
a blood feud with another group. And now that so
slight society has collapsed, everything goes sideways. You know that

(46:35):
they're going to be coming for you, your loved ones
and what you have. So in the areas of security, communication, teamwork, leadership,
and tactical strategy, which one is your strength? And if
you had to target one of these areas to exploit,
which one would you choose?

Speaker 2 (46:51):
And why?

Speaker 1 (46:53):
So?

Speaker 2 (46:53):
What is your strength out of these these ones? You
guys in the comments on here are you two? So security, communication, teamwork,
leadership and tactical strategy, which one of those is your strength?
And which one of those are? What would you exploit
to protect yourselves against this enemy?

Speaker 3 (47:16):
That for me would require some planning. I'm a solid
answer right now. I wouldn't say how we could wing it.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
But I'm pretty good at leadership. But I would probably
want to exploit their security system and see what there
does that make sense? Like I would I would build
up my own security system if they're coming for me.
That actually puts me in an advantage.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
It seems like if you have enough resources to stay
alert twenty four to seven, Yeah, who's going to keep
watch all the time? That's a security exploit?

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Right do you number one answer to all these questions?

Speaker 1 (48:04):
So, because if you have a community, yeah, you can
share that, you can take shifts for the watch.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
How many people do you have that can do that though?
And of those people who have the ability to keep watch,
how many of them are a good shot? And you
have a good relay communication plan to be able to
let the person know who's keeping watch? How to let
everybody else know that there's a problem without giving the
other side, the feuding party knowledge that you're aware of them. Right,

(48:36):
You don't want to raise a massive ruckus and alarm
because then everyone's caught unaware. That's an easy time for
them attack because you're still trying to figure out who
your enemy is. You might even shoot your own people.
But if you can make everyone aware without making a
huge alarm, that's better, right, security wise? Protocol wise, I

(48:59):
got you both thinking.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Deep Yeah, yeah, it's I mean a lot of these questions.
I go through these decks and look at all the cards.
I'm like, honestly, I really have no idea how would
attack this or that problem. And and I mean, that's
why they're they're good, and that's why we do this,
is to get get our brains thinking. You know, I
cannot imagine honestly a lot of these scenarios happening in

(49:22):
my own community or but uh, they are obviously very
real and and require some thought. I just I guess
I just hope and pray that I'm never in one
of those situations to where I have to make those
types of very serious decisions, right and and you know,
I just pray you'll have the spirit with me to

(49:43):
make those right decisions at the time, because I don't
know you make those right now.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
You have to know your resources and sometimes pretending that
you have resources in reality you may not even have
that resource.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Yeah we are pretending right now.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Yeah, absolutely, Well, It's like it's good to run through
these scenarios for the fact that when something does happen,
if you've given it zero thought, you're going to be
behind your critical thinking skills. You're going to be very
severely disadvantaged. But if you're thinking about it now, like

(50:18):
for example, in school, like in Driver's Ed they teach
you how to offensively drive, to get out of the way,
or to steer out of the direction of where another
car is going, like to try to avoid accidents, right,
same thing in disasters. Or you want to steer out
of the way, you want to get out of the way,
you want to get to a safe spot, you want

(50:38):
to avoid things as much as possible, And if you've
planned and prepped and practiced, you're going to be at
an advantage in those scenarios. That's why we do these
types of episodes so that you start thinking, how can
I be more proactive and not just be a defensive
prepper but be an offensive prepper, right, like an offensive

(51:01):
driver versus a defensive driver.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Yeah, well, they're that same book that you medd friend earlier.
One second after has a scenario where they're a bunch
of huge band of robbers and marauders is coming through
just every little village community town, just raping and pillaging,
and they get the story the main character their town

(51:28):
is next and they're like, what do we do? How
do we prepare for this? And they have to realize
that when you're going to have a war like that,
people are going to die and it sucks, and so
they kind of just got the reality of that, and
then they also really did their best to kind of
fortify everything they could. They had some strategies, they did

(51:49):
some really good things in the books to kind of
give themselves a little bit of an advantage, and they
ended up surviving. The town survived, but again there were
people that still didn't survive, that didn't make it. And
so that's the thing is that are you going to
be again going back to that original thing that you
mentioned Scott at the beginning of the show, is that
when we when we watch these hero stories, we always

(52:13):
recognize we always associate ourselves with the hero, not with
the guy who died in the background because the building
collapsed on him.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
You know.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
So the reality is you might be listening today and
you're like, no, I'm going to take them out, but
you're the one. You might be the guy that gets
run over and then the first in the first scene
of the show and the of the pro of the process.
So just remember that you've got to also have like
a contingent's like what if I get taken out and
have you know, running scenarios like this is really good

(52:42):
to get your brain thinking, because there's a reality too.
We might You might, just like Shane you just said earlier,
you don't think that most of these scenarios will happen
in your life. That's exactly the reason why you should
prepare for him, because the crazy things that you don't
think are going to happen are usually the things that do.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Yeah, my closing thoughts are this, we don't know what's
going to happen. We can only prepare as much as
our awareness permits. If we get too caught up on
all the little details, we can drive ourselves crazy. But
if we make ourselves aware of different types of scenarios

(53:23):
and talk them through from time to time, it can
help us create plans of action. But at the very least,
everyone should have their plan of action for how to
maintain their home, how and when to leave their home,
where to relocate to, who they're relocating with, how to
keep the security up. But I firmly believe everyone that

(53:46):
has food storage, everyone that has water storage, has tools.
They're an at an advantage. But the people who have
the bigger advantage are the people that have that and
have all the knowledge on how to resupply it row
a garden, take care of their food and and what
Shane said in the comments for security, get some geese
for the day and owls at night. Like you don't

(54:08):
even need owls at night. Your geese will be aware.
Like here, animals will be allowed, especially geese are very territorial.
Get the guardian livestock dog, like that's when we move.
That's what I'm getting, getting livestock dog. I'm gonna get
some geese and and I think we'll be pretty good
on the on the all night security detail, at least defensive.

(54:30):
That dog is gonna eat anybody that shows up.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
That's a great point. Get resource use, use animals as
a resource. Why not?

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah right, geese sleep at night? Yeah absolutely, But have
you ever wokened us a goose at night?

Speaker 3 (54:42):
It's hard to do.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
They're already awake before you get there. They're very attentive,
like very aware of what's going on. In my personal experience,
like my great grandmother had geese, they were terrifying, Like
as a little kid, they were terrifying. The dot in
the country and traveling sales want to come, come by
see the geese and keep on driving. There are guys

(55:03):
that would stand on their car trying to flag my
grandma down from in the house to come out pull
the geese in so they can go and get away.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Yeah, I think it's kind of My closing thoughts is, Okay,
how do I recognize if I'm the villain or the hero? Right?
Because I think it's a possibility that, yeah, maybe I
might be the bad guy at times accidentally, right, not intentionally?
So how do I see that best? How do I
avoid from being the villain? And so that's what I'm

(55:35):
going to contemplate more. I don't have the answers, right.
I think that's something I work on, you know, regularly,
almost every day I think about, Okay, am I right
on this topic? Or am I wrong? Am I too assertive,
too pushy about about being selfer like being a prepper

(55:56):
getting prepared, getting ready for the end of the world? Right?
I mean, yeah, I probably am sometimes. How do I
go about that better? And how do I try to
avoid being the villain in that situation?

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (56:14):
I think it's important to My final thoughts are is
that you know, there's a great book that I read
is Choose Your Enemies Wisely, And in the book it
talks it's Patrick pad David.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
He writes it.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
He talks about how a lot of times we need
to have something that opposes what our ideal is so
that we can really hone our skills as to being
good at what we do. And and you know, it's
it just kind of really quickly. As a follower of Jesus,
it is good that there is a devil because I

(56:48):
know what I'm fighting against. And so in a hero
villain scenario, choose your enemies wisely. Choose whether you're the
hero or the villain, or when you need to be
the hero, choose that wisely and be wise about it,
and do use discernment, because there's going to be some
people that you're going to offend in many cases unbeknownst
to you, and to them you are now the villain

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in their life until you can reconcile and to others
you'll be the hero. You'll be the greatest thing ever.
And so just in my opinion, take when I have
somebody who thinks I'm a villain in their life, that's
just a wake up called me. Okay, what did I do?
How did I what did I What could I do better?
How could I be more? Did I was I really

(57:31):
a villain or are they just taking it the wrong way?
So there are some thoughts that I was thinking about.
And thank you so much for listening you guys, it's
been a great episode. We've had a lot of fun.
Whether you're the hero or the villain, or maybe you're
a hero, a little hero with villain tendencies, or maybe
you're a villain with hero tendencies. I think there's a
little bit in all of us. You know, I've been
called a narcissist in my life, and I don't believe

(57:53):
that I'm a narcissist, but I do believe I have
from time to time narcissistic tendencies. I don't believe I'm
I'm a bad guy, but from time to time I
do dumb things and that could be interpreted as bad.
So I'm okay with that now. You know, it's okay
because it's part of the whole story. But be wise,
use feedback from friends and family and others to kind
of adjust and be self aware and do your best.

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Speaker 3 (58:41):
See you next week.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Good night,

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