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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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to have a negative, like bad attitude about life?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Like we're gonna thinks?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Well, I mean, we just had a couple episodes of
We're Screwed, and this is gonna be along those same
as lines, but a little twist of it.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
What's what's going on? Right?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, so here's the reality, right, we're gonna we're doing
the reality in this episode. There are gonna be things
that are gonna be not fun, right, Doom and gloom. Yes,
that's what the whole apocalypse is for. That's why we
prepare so that when these things happen, because guess what

(02:50):
they will, we can weather them better. Not necessarily survive,
We hope we survive, but we can weather them better.
Not all of us will be as well off as
field tack and self reliance or our resident Burt Gummer
right right here, mister mister Shane. But yeah, let's let's

(03:12):
dig into this because I think we're we're on the
edge of a blade in the reality of where we
are in time, like we're on the edge of the
wade everything's about. We feel like we've got thousands and
thousands of days, months, years in front of us, so
it's it's still fine, but we're really at the edge
of everything's about to tip off. Question is how much

(03:33):
actual time do we have. I think we've got about
a year and a half to two years before things
go terribly wrong. It could be seven to ten years.
It could be tomorrow, so let's plan as if it
is tomorrow, or it could be as soon as we
hit five minutes into this. Oh, we're already five minutes
and four seconds into this, right, It could be when
we hit ten minutes into this podcast that everything goes awry.

(03:56):
So shall we dive into it?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, yeah, let me let me I guess the stage
a little bit. You know, I always say look to
the past to prepare for the future, and so this
is gonna kind of be my new motto. Right, it's
for a positive outcome. First, think negatively, right, think of

(04:18):
the negative outcome that's going that would happen if you're
not prepared, right, I think overall regardless, Well, and there's
some caveats there. I'm not gonna throw a blanket out.
There is a lot of bad things can happen, which
is some things we've talked about the last couple of weeks,
right with the last couple of episodes. And of course

(04:41):
we always say if you're prepared, you know, scriptures say
if you're prepared, you shall not fear right, So that's
really where this comes from. But if you take the
approach and my approach is, let me phase it that way,
my approach is what it will be the negative outcome
if I'm not prepared. Do I just go off into
the woods, carry a water filter or water bottle or

(05:01):
a jacket or those types of things and just hope
that everything turns out fine? Or if something happens, am
I going to be prepared to throw that rain jacket on.
I've got a knife, I can start a fire or whatever.
That's where this comes from. That's what that's my setless
stage there.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Let me add to that, actually, because there's a law
in the universe. It's called the law of opposition. Like
day is we have the noon day sun and we
have the midnight darkness, So that this is the law
I'm talking about. And I don't believe in my experience.
And again, I've only been on this earth for fifty years,

(05:36):
so maybe somebody who's had more experience than me will
have a better outlook. But I don't believe that you
can truly understand the and have a full appreciation for
the noonday sun unless you've experienced the midnight darkness. And
so to me, that goes along with this, with this
philosophy that you're taught you're sharing here, Scott. I was

(05:59):
Shane that we don't know, we don't If we don't
know how bad it could get, we really don't know
how good it could get either. And to really know
the brightness of the noonday sun, we also have to
know the darkness of the midnight, you know, darkness. So
to me, this is that's an absolute truth that we're

(06:21):
if you're going to really prepare for something, and they always,
you know, the boy Scouts taught us, you know, prepare
for the worst case scenario. You know, Well, the worst
case scenario that you've probably imagine is I had. Okay,
I'm a pretty positive guy in life, and I grew
up an optimist thinking everything was going to be great.
And over the last you know, i don't know, five

(06:41):
ten years, I've kind of become more of a realist.
My pessimism has grown quite substantially actually since we started
the show, and I've gotten to be friends with shaneen
and so my reality is is more realistic. And about
ten years ago I started to study the signs of
the times and where we were really head, and that
really opened me up to the dark deep just worst

(07:05):
some of the worst case scenarios. Like I saw some
rabbit holes. I went down some rabbit holes where the
worst case scenario that I ever thought of was like, oh,
I'll just stub my toe. No, the worst case scenario
is a lot more bloody and worse than that. You
know that just the depravity of human human And I
studied some of the great wars throughout history and the

(07:26):
depravity that came, and that what happened at Auschwitz, and
just some of the things that happened in this world,
and you realize, Wow, human beings can be some of
the most vile of creatures. But then you study the
other side of it, You're like, Okay, what have we created?
What have we done to make this world a better place?
And so now you realize, on the other side of it,
human beings have done some of the most amazing, wonderful,

(07:49):
creative things to create a wonderful, amazing world that we
live in. I think about that too. You can't, in
my opinion, you can't. That's the balance. The balance is recognizing, Okay,
how do I prepare for the worst case? Not my
imagination of worst case, but like the reality worst case,
and then how do I also prepare for the best case,

(08:10):
and how do I balance that and try to stay
somewhere in the middle there. So I'm not too wide.
I'm not swinging too wide either way, and that's I
think that's a great backdrop, Shane, Thanks for starting us
off that way.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
So I'm wearing my apocaly Optimus shirt today on purpose,
on purpose for this episode. I was gonna wear my
ready Minded shirt, the tea dumping one, but I was like,
I think negatively. So this is a positive spin on
all the crap hitting the fan, right. This is having

(08:45):
confidence in the skills, the resources, the assets that you have, right,
the community that you've built, going into all the crap
that's going to go wrong, right, things like the world
as we know it could end tomorrow. Right, guys, We've
already had so many things change in the last ninety days,
the last four years, the last decade that we thought

(09:07):
would never happen in our lifetime before we all woke
up like legitimately terrifying. And there's some big names behind everything,
Like I didn't know growing up that our banking system
wasn't a US banking system. I didn't know that it
was owned by a cabal, by a banking structure that

(09:30):
none of us have any control over. Even the US
government has zero control over it. Right, we don't own
the money. We don't print the money. Well, we print
the money, but we don't own the money. And then
we're taxed. And where does the tax go. It doesn't
help the infrastructure, doesn't help the system. It goes to
the robbers who created the banking system. Right, It's all
like we are neo waking up, unplugging from the system, realizing,

(09:53):
holy crap, everything's a fake. It's a facade. There's nothing
that we thought is real and legitimate is necessarily the
the way we thought. And so like the world ending
as we know it, there's a huge sigh of relief,
But there's also terrifying reality of when all the systems
are unconnected, disconnected, when the banking's gone, when the internet's gone. Right,

(10:17):
there's that oh yeah, I'm free, but there's also that
holy crap. Now the hardest work begins. If we haven't
been preparing, it's game over.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Michael Michael's in the chat? Michael Mike, He's a good
buddy from from our life side hustle. He's out there
killing it. But uh yeah, Like the reality is, is
everything gone tomorrow? And if you're not emotionally and mentally

(10:49):
preparing for that, you're like, we're all screwed. But what's
the level of screwed that you will experience?

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well, web Dad brings up a great point here, Well,
let me let me click on here. Sorry, they're wrong
clicking on the un sEH, that was me. Sorry, No,
I was here here here here you personally, I'm pragmatic.
Living in the world of theory can drive you great. Yeah, absolutely,
and let's yeah, I want to touch on that a
little bit. Is and I think and I'm just thinking

(11:20):
through this, you know, this is me thinking out loud.
The world of theory versus reality can be a fine
line in that if you don't have enough knowledge of
what's going on. Right, if my eyes are open and

(11:42):
I'm seeing what's going on and I have that particular
knowledge or experience for me, at that point, it's it
becomes pragmatic. Like you say, it's not theory anymore, and
so I am pragmatic into my my approach. My approach
is to that negative topic is preparing for it and

(12:05):
which caused me to be to have faith and hope
and all that kind of stuff which we could talk about.
And so I think a lot of people or some people,
and I'm just taking a lot of assumptions here. Is
say like, for example, oh, the banking system is going
to collapse, the dollar is losing buy it is going
to collapse. A lot of people might think that's theory,

(12:27):
that it's not really happening, or it might be happening.
They don't know when the proof shows that it's actually happening.
And that's I guess that's kind of what I'm trying
to say here, is that some people may think that
truth is theory, they just don't have the knowledge. Am
I totally off based on that? Does that make sense?
What I'm trying to say that.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
I think you're thinking through it is critical and maybe
you'll perfect that how you articulate it as we go.
But I agree that there's a lot of things that
we don't know or that are goal are happening in
the background but aren't yet implemented. And so the theory
is that it's that they're planning for it. There they

(13:11):
and they is the world of lead. Right, They're they're
making plans to do X, Y and Z. So that's
that's the facts are. They are planning to do it.
The theory is they haven't necessarily done it yet or
they're still in the process of doing it, and so
we're still in that just transition phase, and so we
need to prepare ourselves where we can also be realistic about, Okay,

(13:36):
what am I doing to come out of the matrix.
And one of the things that I think about is
that I want to live like everything's fine, but then
mentally prepare myself to walk away from it all because
everything's not fine.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
So I try to take that understanding a little bit
differently of what's going on. Right, So have you guys
heard of the domino effect?

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Certainly, and then getting similar to the butterfly.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Effect stacking up dominoes like if you you could, and
you can incrementally, you can double, you can actually quadruple
the size of the domino the next domino, and the
domino will still knock it over, right, and so that
domino gets bigger and bigger and bigger, and that small
little initial domino tip can be over time knocking over giant,

(14:28):
huge dominoes. It looks on a bar chart, it looks
like that compounding effect, right with your interest, So the
domino effect, the dominoes are already falling. What we're seeing
is the evidence of the dominoes that have already fallen
in the past. Right. We see our grid failures happening
all over the world. Right, Oh, rolling blackouts. Oh my

(14:51):
phone's not working all of a sudden for an hour
or two. Oh I can't get on my Wi Fi.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Like we're seeing those little evidences all around us, the
in the built in fragility of the world around us. Right,
and so those who are aware are preparing for more
of that, right, knowing that it's outside of our control. Right,
But living in a place of absolute like fear and panic,

(15:16):
that's a that's not a good solution either. Like we
need we need to have a response ready so that
we're not just reacting, but that we have a plan
in action, a plan of action in case of scenario A, B, C,
D or E.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I don't I don't take it to the level of
like I'm always role playing everything everywhere I'm going. But
I do look for exits. I do look for ways out,
like defensive driving, defensive living, or offensive living, Like I'm
looking for the best way I can go to keep
my family safe. Right, So that's kind of the way
I take it. But I look at it this way, like,

(15:50):
I want to live in a non react reactionary state
where I'm not even though the stimulus is happening all
around me, I'm not like freaking out or panicking become
from it, Right, I'm non reactionary.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Well, I think part of that is you don't want
to become you don't want to create a self fulfilling
prophecy either. So you know, I was telling my son
the other day. I asked him, I said, do you
know what self fulfilling prophecy means? He says no, And
I reminded him about And this is a funny reference
I think to a Kung Fu Panda and Kung Fu Panda.

(16:27):
There's a scene where they're the duck and he's working
with the other people and they're trying to figure out
this prophecy about how this guy is supposed to be
this great warrior is going to come and destroy and
take over and they're like, oh no, we need to
stop that from happening. And they realized that this the
guy that the prophecy's about, is already in prison. That's like, well,

(16:48):
he's in the most high security prison. There's no way
he's going to get out. There's no way he can
do all this stuff. So we're gonna, you know, we're
just gonna, but but I'm going to go check on him.
So the duck goes to check on the prisoner, and
as he's looking over the edge into this pit of
this cell that the tiger's in, because it's the tiger guy,

(17:10):
and he looks over and he says, Okay, he's secure.
There's no way out of this thing. There's no way
that's gonna he's gonna escape. And then as the duck
turns around, he gets knocked over or something, and a
feather from the duck flies over the edge and goes
down and the tiger can reach it, and that's what
he uses to pick the lock and the in his

(17:33):
very effort to stop this prophecy or whatever the story
was in Kung Fu Panda, in his effort to stop it,
he actually created the scenario that allowed for it. And
so that's where I'm like, how many of us are
so worried about something happening that we go to take
all these great lengths to stop it from happening, only

(17:55):
the cause it to happen because of what we've done.
It's often like, you know what, just take a deep
breath and and let it go and just it is
what it is, or let's just let it happen this,
just let it play out. Let's not try to We
need to be prepared, we need to be wise, and
we need to train, and we need to be ready
for things in advance. But let we also not need

(18:15):
to not be the cause of the problem in our
effort to be prepared preventing the problem.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Let's Daffie Duck. Speaking of ducks, I became Daffy Duck
for a minute there.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Porky pig.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Well there's that's how folks.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, that was pretty good. There's guy I am the
porky one. So but yeah, okay, So spinning off on that,
like what's going to happen next, Shane, Like.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
What that is the question? Right? You know, if you
want to think really negatively, that's really easy to do.
If you're you know, you're watching the news, you're doom scrolling,
which you'll fills my guess think I guess you could say.
But again, I have another commendus list here of what

(19:11):
I'm thinking very negatively about it. And of course a
lot of those things were on my list of your email.
I wanted to put it out my own email there too, because.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
But I know you like through these all at the wall.
I don't. I don't think you put these in order
of what you think is going to happen or a
domino effect, right.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Correct, No particular yeah, no particular order. Definitely not a
domino effect. But I mean, the last news I saw,
if I can remember that just barely came out, is that, oh,
China is again surrounding Taiwan doing more exercises or something.
And of course exercises or what I tend to turn

(19:50):
into the actual event. So uh and all the things
that could potentially happen because of of if that war
actually gets kicked off, and then of course, uh it
going is on this week with Trump meeting with Putin
and with Zelenski and so forth, and you know, potentially

(20:11):
and so here's I guess perfect example is that uh,
oh they're meeting, they're talking. That's good, That's that's that's
that's positive, right, so stock market goes out right, That's
kind of the way things happen here. If there's any
any hint of positivity in the market.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
It goes up.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
When if you're actually looking deeper into it, uh and
being pragmatic about it. Uh. There, it's actually pretty negative
the things that are happening. You know, it was a
two hour meeting with with the Trump and and Putin
when it is supposed to be seven. What happened? Lot
of speculation, so you know, plenty of reasons and ways

(20:49):
to be negative that way, but also plenty to be positive.
It's it's you have to choose. And so if you
choose to be negative, what are you gonna do about that? Uh?
What's your next step that you're going to do to prepare?
I mean, is there anything we can do more than
everything we're already doing in that situation? I mean a

(21:10):
huge list of things we could talk about.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Feel Tech said, I'm not worried about it happening. I'm
not worried about it happening. I'm simply prepared to handle
whatever comes. And then Michael says, I live by it
is what it is.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
And then.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
There was another comment that I think I wanted to share,
but I think that's that's legit because we need to
be aware of I think, aware of the possible positives
and have a few listed out.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
You know.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
That's the thing about a master chess player. A master
chess player knows all the moves and and probably five
to ten moves out what what could happen? And so
if and as one move is actually made, then that
opens it up to Okay, from from the before that
move was made, these were the possibilities. Now that that

(22:01):
move is made, I'm going to reevaluate the possibilities. And
I think we should do that in life. That's we
need to be mastered life, you know, chess players and
life players where every time a decision is made or
we look and see what's happening, we think, Okay, what
are the possible outcomes, both positive and negative, and how
can I prepare for it? And I don't think I

(22:22):
think it's a good point here. Web Dad brings up
is worry beneficial And there's a difference between and it's
a fine line, and I maybe we can talk about it,
but there's a difference between being worried about stuff and
evaluating the potential possibilities from that decision, like what could
happen and how to prepare for it. I think there's

(22:44):
a difference between the two.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well, okay, the inevitability of everything on this list from
a scriptural perspective, from a Christianity sect view of things, right, right,
because I look at the Bible, and the Bible says, hey, dude,
this is gonna happen. Right, So it's there's inevitabilities within there,

(23:08):
Like let's let's can we just read the list or
at least some of the lists. People know what the
heck we're.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Taking about whatever it stands out to you on that one.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
All right, So the world as we know it candeen tomorrow,
ding the dollar, the US and the world financial systems
are on the virtual collapse ding right. Power grid is
going to fail another pandemic, right, plandemic? We know US
civil war? Yep, uh huh, it's inevitable. The government will
not reverse course, and it's spending or tyrannical agenda to
take take our God given rights. Inflation and unemployment are increasing,

(23:35):
interest rates are continuing to rise. Right, I'm gonna jump
down a few Debt levels will only increase. Weakness will
only increase. Case, chaos will only increase. Extreme weather conditions
will only increase. Right, you cannot turn the ship around
anymore because they took off the rudder, right, It's just
we're moving in that direction. The rate of changes increased dramatically.
Time is being sped up and shortened. Okay, so he

(24:00):
breaths everybody, right and back.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
You know that one there's no turn of the ship around.
I think there's a lot of people that still believe that, Yeah,
if we if we do this, if we do that,
And of course I have a very negative opinion of that,
the ship turning around, of course, but a lot of
that is based in not theory, but in belief, faith, scripture,

(24:26):
and a lot of common sense. I could say too,
But then again, I've been known to be wrong a
lot of things. And so where at what point? And
I think that the harmful part of the opposite is
if you're and I know people who are so extremely positive,

(24:48):
they do nothing, They don't prepare. I mean, maybe they
have savings, they're saving for their retirement, you know, in
ten twenty years. Rightever, and I know some of you
on the in the chat share with me that our
timeline is much shorter than that, extremely short in my opinion.
But if you're too positive, if you're positive and you

(25:11):
don't prepare for anything, whether you're you know, a lot
of people we see there's a lot of debt out there,
and I think some of that is going to be
from people having a positive look on their future. Oh,
I have a good job and my earnings are good.
I can go into debt because you know, I've got
years ahead of me. And instead of thinking, well what

(25:34):
thinking negatively, well if I lost my job tomorrow, I
need to save. I need to save. And yes, maybe
that's called worry web that, maybe that is worry. But
is that kind of worried that where that ache in
your stomach, your pity of your stomach just aches and
it causes you to be sick. Or is it a
more surface level kind of worried like I need to

(25:55):
be I need to be responsible. I'm a parent, I've
got kids, I've got you know, response abilities, and so
what is the obvious thing I need to do?

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, fear can be a great motivator or it can
be a.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Disabling an echo on your paris. Are you I'm doing
getting You're not getting it?

Speaker 2 (26:14):
But you guys, anybody get an echo?

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Somebody else get an echo when I talk.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
That's good that you that.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
I think I heard it earlier when I was sharing something,
but I don't hear it right now myself. We are
getting Paris's echo. Oh sorry, Well, hopefully it goes away.
I don't know what else to do, but I can
check on a few things, but no echo.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Now.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Colin Miller thinks just a bug in the bug in
the software or something. Yeah, crazy, So okay. So fear
can be a disabler. Worry can be a disabler, or
it can be something that notifies us that we need
to pay attention. And that's what I think. You know,
I I say on my financial channel, and I've said
on a lot of this is something that I talk

(27:05):
about a lot. We need to stop spending tomorrow's money today,
and we need to start spending yesterday's money today. What's
interesting is that if we have this idea that we're
going to spend like everything's going to stay wonderful and
great and amazing, We're going to over extend ourselves. We're
going to do things. We're going to make decisions today
in hopes that tomorrow is going to provide even more

(27:27):
for us, and that's okay to do. But I would
say a wise, a wiser choice is to live from savings,
to live from what you've already done, what you've already accumulated,
and grow from there and then expand from there. I
believe we would turn our whole country around, our whole
you know, with a debt that we have, if we

(27:47):
stopped spending tomorrow's money, because we believe that tomorrow is
going to be producing the same income. That's and to me,
no prepared, no preparer, no really prepper is going to realize, Hey,
you know what, my job's always going to be around
my business is always going to be thriving. I mean,
you're delusional if you think that your business is always

(28:09):
going to be thriving every year and you're going to
just keep spending your way into life into the future.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
That's not happened blessed with those challenges. Yet.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Oh yeah, yes, that might be true too. Like I've
had weeks and months where I'm like, how am I
going to put food on the table, And then I've
had weeks and months where I'm like, I got plenty
and to spare, and I'm going to put it in
the savings account, and so it's just and then you
know six. I think every most the average American loses
their job five or six times. And so there's there's
just things to prepare for, and those are the most

(28:41):
advent most obvious things to prepare for. And we start
doing that, I think it will take away the worry
out of our life. When we take the frivolous spending
out of our life, we'll take that worry out of
our life way faster. I think.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Well, and I know there's people out there that haven't
lost their income or job ever, right, yeah, because statistically
I've lost I've lost it enough for them, me and
somebody else. I'm like, what happened? Now? What happened? Now?
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Right?

Speaker 1 (29:08):
So I went through this phase of life where I
was absolutely like depressed, right, I job loss, other problems,
hit challenges in life. I was like eight years super depressed.
Part of that time we went off air, we came back,
and I was still like struggling every day. And it

(29:29):
wasn't until January February of this year that I was
like my mindset completely shifted and I started focusing on
some really amazing and powerful things for me, and I
kind of flipped the bird to the apocalypse. Here's why
I can only control today for me. I can't fix

(29:51):
the world. I can only control what little I have
around me, the stewardship that I have to make sure
that I'm teaching my kids the best I possibly can.
I'm trying to prepare the best I possibly can. Right.
Prepping is insurance, It's real insurance, right, Insurance is there

(30:11):
so you don't have to stress. Skills, training, knowledge, that's resilience. Right.
Focusing on the positive aspects of all those gives me
the ability to be non reactionary. And since working on
my mindset now, I'm more thoughtful about what I'm doing,
how I'm spending my time, what I'm investing in right,

(30:33):
my mind, my preps, my skills, my wellness, my health,
my physical health, my mental health, my spiritual health. Right,
those things I'm investing heavy in right now, because those
are the things that are going to be in the
most short supply. When the diving board gets ripped out

(30:54):
from under us and the pool's emptied all at once
and we go plummeting into the deep end. That's the
reality that we're gonna hit So what are you gonna
do with it?

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Like?

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Are you gonna Are you gonna be where I was
for eight years and be like, Oh, the world's falling
down all around me. I'm miserable. We're doomed, right or
are you be like? Dude, We're doomed. This is awesome.
That means God's coming again. I need to get my
ducks in a row. Oh I don't have any ducks.
I better get some ducks. I better learn how to
take care of ducks. Let's do this all duck thing, right,

(31:24):
Get get started doing things that actually matter, spending time
in relationships with God, with your family, with your friends,
building community because community better will outlast the trauma and
the trials and the disasters of life having a good community.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, we we haven't talked about it in a while.
But anti fragility is another topic. Then maybe we can
start addressing again. But resilience. Resilience is another thing like
the human the human condition is. To be resilient, is
to survive, is to is to recognize the pro album

(32:02):
and look at it from as many angles and perspective
as possible, and then create a solution and move forward.
And rise above it and rise from it. And I
love the Stoic philosophy. The Stoic philosophy is that they believe,
They say that God has given man all of the
resources necessary to accomplish all of the trials or tasks

(32:23):
that would that they would come upon. And so they're like,
we don't need to work. We we don't need to
bother the gods because they already gave us everything we need.
We just need to figure out how to use it
and move forward with it. Now, they believed in the
pantheon of gods, and in our Christianity, we believe in
a merciful, kind, loving, heavenly Father and his son Jesus Christ.

(32:43):
So we we're not bugging them. They actually want to
be a part of our life and help help us
move forward. But the idea and the philosophy of we
have the resources necessary, we just need to tap into
them and stop worrying about woe is me. And you know,
there's a there's a minute where we can take a
few minutes and just kind of suck our thumb and
ask for Mom to come and you know, tuck us in.

(33:04):
But at the end of the day, we got to
step up and say okay, I'm done with that. You know,
when you trip and fall and hurt your knee, recognize
the pain, check it out, make sure it's okay, and
then get up, brush yourself up, and keep going. And
that's and that sucks sometimes because life can kick you
in the you know what and it doesn't feel good.
But at the same time, it's nice to know that, Hey,

(33:27):
wait a minute, I woke up today, I got another
day to do this. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
You know, well, Shane, in the last episode, you talked
about the emergency room scenario with your daughter. Right, her
arm looked mangled, looked like it was broken. You rush
her to the hospital emergency room. You're out what five
hundred bucks? Right, and what'd you find out?

Speaker 2 (33:47):
She was fine? Right?

Speaker 1 (33:49):
We still have to be able to take action. But
the more trained we are now you're like ridiculously trained
in EMT and all the other fun stuff, right, first aid,
So now you can actually assess it, better, validate situation,
and actually react have a clear response to it. Right,
But you wouldn't be able to do that had you

(34:10):
not focused and trained. Right now, you have a responsive
mind instead of a reactionary mind, because you've got skills
to go with it. Right. We need to make not amends,
but we need to make ourselves okay with the reality

(34:30):
of how bad it will get and be okay with
everything being turned off and the whole world changing, but
make it rain all the positive good things you possibly
can in and through that. Right.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, I heard something today that we all have resources,
but not everybody has resourcefulness. And there's plenty of resources
to get what we need done, but we don't not
always are we open minded enough to be resourceful in
using those things resources. So that's something that I've kind
of you know that when I heard that today, I

(35:08):
was like, oh, I just got you know, kind of
bopped upside the head with the two by four because
there's some things in my business that I want to
do and I've I've felt a little bit, you know,
underwhelmed about and I'm like, what am I really doing?
And when I heard that, I related it to my business,
but it also relates to everything else in life. You know,
if if the gods have given us, and God has

(35:29):
given us all the resources we need, we just need
to be resourceful and go find those resources and then
do our part. That's that's that great quote about pray
like everything counts on God and then work as everything
counts on you. It comes to mind is like, yeah,
there's going to be some negative things. Is are the
and God wrote it in the scriptures a thousand years ago.

(35:49):
He's not going to change his mind today, you know
what I mean, He's already It's like, it's already there, guys,
So we just got to you know, become to terms
with the fact that it's there and then just move
forward with it. But in the same time, He's also
given us the hope that hey, you know what, if
you prepare, if you use your resources and you're resourceful
and you're resilient, and you work and you count on

(36:10):
me to come in your yoke, and your burden will
be light as you as you we yoke together. There's
there's also a lot of in all the negative things
that could happen and it will happen, there's also all
the positive things that too, And I think the people
who focus on one or the other too much they
get caught in a cycle. It's those folks who understand
and know how to balance it and be prepared for

(36:33):
the negative, but also have a that's where the apocoly
optimist comes in, and I don't. There's the pessimist, and
there's the optimist, and the realist is in the middle, right,
or the pragmat the pragmatist, what's in the middle the
apocal optimist. Yeah, that's legit. So I think that's something.
That's it. You don't want to get too high, and

(36:53):
you don't want to get too low because it's never
as bad as it seems, and it's never as good
as it seems.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
So just well, and you know, and of course you're
talking about medical you know, the word trioge comes to mind.
Is I can't do everything, you know, I can't do
it all. There's just so much to take in consideration.
So and of course I think I asked the question
how many of you carry a handgun firearm? Every day?

(37:18):
How many? And you know, And the reason I asked
that is mainly to bring up the topic of probability
versus consequence. Right, the probability of me, you know, in
my nice live in a pretty nice neighborhood. You know,
I don't go to ugly places or scary places. I

(37:39):
stay away from from bad places. So the probability of
anything bad happening to me is is really dope. So
why would I be concerned about carrying every single day?
Because the consequence of not doing so could be extreme?
And so I try to apply that to every aspect

(37:59):
of preparedness.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Well, I go shopping at Walmart, and I often think
to myself, what do I need to carry to Walmart for?
And then I see some X video about some Walmart guy.
I'm like, that's exactly why I carry every day.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I avoid Walmart.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Walmart is the number one place you should carry, right?
WHOA Like, yeah, I like this comment. I want to
scroll back up web dad. Dude speak in my language
over here, what is your tolerance for two disaster? Is
it a day without power? Or is it thirty days?

(38:36):
Is it no access to groceries? You know that's kind
of how he preps. That's like, what is his tolerance level?
I love that because it's like I bank everything that
I got, right, I bank it, and I say, Okay,
how long will this last? How long can I endure
with this? Okay? What do I What gaps do I
have on my prep to fill to make it so
that we can last even longer?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Right?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
I know things are gonna get whacka do, But I
can control a lot of how my family's gonna respond
to that. I know not to go to certain places,
but there's also other times where places come to you.
Bad things happen. Right, You're gonna get a flat tire
when you least expect it. Do you know how to
fix or change your tire? How many people nowadays don't

(39:20):
have a clue. They don't even know what a tire
iron is.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Or how to put even put air in a tire.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Right, or which gas to put in their vehicle based
on their engine ratings and the needs of the vehicle. Right?
Do you carry an extra serpentine belt? Do you know
how to put it on your car? Do you have
the different I have three different belts on my car.
Do you know how to put any of those on
your car? I've got a spare of each one of those.

(39:46):
But you know what, I just realized, I'm a dummy.
Guess where I put them? On the shelf above above
my freezer in the garage. I'm like, I forgot to
put them in the car. I just realized that I
need to make a note for myself. But like, those
were pretty easy for me. To pop in and out
and I've just got to remove one part to do it.
So have those tools in the car because guess what,
I had one of those snap ones. I also had

(40:07):
one wear out so bad because I didn't replace it
college days that it was just all the wheels were
spinning and it was getting no grip. So nothing was happening,
and I'd overheat the car and problems. Right, But it's
creating levels of resilience, creating levels of protection defense right

(40:27):
around you, so that bubbles of protection ready radius. Right.
We talk about that, and we have a book, go
check it out, it's on Amazon. But talking about layers
of defense, layers of protection around you in life so
that when bad things do happen, it's less intrusive in
your quality of life and in your plan for what's
going forward. Most families in America don't even have enough

(40:49):
money to cover a five hundred dollars emergency m H.
Start there.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
And speaking of that, there's a philosophy and business that is,
you know, the difference between a self employed person and
a business owner is time. If you walked away from
your business for a day, would you still make money?
A week? Would you still make money a month. Would
you still make money if you walk away from your
from whatever your business is for a month and you're

(41:15):
still making money, you've got an actual business. If you
walk away for a day or an hour and you
stop making money, you're self employed. Basically, you're still on
the rat race. You're still in the hamster wheel. And
that's a grateful that coincides with this very philosophy for preparedness,
like if you had a seventy two hour emergency, could
you survive it? A week emergency, a month emergency? Like

(41:38):
what's your level of freedom and independence? And that to me,
the real goal here is to become self reliant, self sufficient,
independent and free. And the way to do that is
to be out of debt, to stay out of debt,
to have a bunch of money in savings or not

(41:58):
just money in savings. What I mean by money and
savings is resources available to you, how in whatever form
those are in, whether it's food or gear or whatever
it is. But do you have the ability to handle
things for more than an hour or two or three
Because most people, like they like you just said five
hundred bucks for an emergency, most people can't go one

(42:23):
paycheck or skip a paycheck and survive. And that's the
same thing with our preps, with our with all with
all these with this list you sent to me, is
if a civil war broke out, what I have a
few ideas about what to do to keep my family safe. Now,
the crazy thing about any of these things on the

(42:43):
list is there could the dice could roll, so to speak,
and the one thing that I didn't think of could
be the role I get. And hopefully hopefully what I
did think of will help mitigate whatever I didn't think of,
and I'll still be okay. But because there's just no
way that we can think about every like I've I've

(43:07):
tried to predict. I've read the Book of Revelation, I've
read the scriptures, and I've tried to predict, Oh this
is what God means. I'm so wrong. Every time I
try to do that, I've just given up on that.
I'm just like, you know what, I'm just gonna let
God do what he wants to do, and we're going
to and I'm just gonna go with the flow, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
And let God.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, like go and let God. So the same thing
is true with whatever like is that is there going
to be a civil war? Sure, what can we do
about it? Well, let's figure let's sit down and think
about that. You know, is the dollar going to collapse?
You know, we're world a enemies. World economies have collapsed already,
like it's so it's not out of the picture. The
dollar could very well collapse. Are we in the Are

(43:45):
we in the phase of collapse? Actually?

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Yes, back in nineteen thirteen it collapsed.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yeah, so there's all kinds it's been.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
It's been on life support ever since.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Right. The reality is it's far worse than we recognize
it because it's not being reported, and it's not being
reported intentionally so that we don't know what's going on,
so that we can be fooled into a place of complacence,
right and compliance with systems. I think, Shane, you're one
hundred percent right. You cannot be one hundred percent self reliant.

(44:19):
That is a one hundred percent guarantee. I've never ever
met anyone who is one hundred percent self reliant because
there's always something they have to go somewhere else to
get and guess what this is God's world. Sometimes you're
just not gonna find what you need because there's guess what,
there's a trial he's going to send your way, right

(44:40):
or you've defied him. Right, there are things that you
won't be able to get you. We all rely on
God or the Maker for something very minimum, right, But
you cannot be one hundred percent self reliance and everything.
I love the quote the mic dropped earlier. He's like,
you cannot a master sorry, a jack of all trades
and a master of none. Well, what's the rest of it?

(45:03):
But oftentimes better than a master of one. Why because
a master of one has yet but one skill, and
a jack of all trades will still beat him on
every other aspect because they've learned to think creatively, think
outside of the box, and critically think problem solved.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Right.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
But the other part of it is this, you can
be a master of many, You can be a master
of everything. You just have to go do it and
be willing to look like a fool in a buffoon
during the learning curve. You're gonna have to fail at
something to become great at it. That's just how the
learning works.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah. I want to just want to make it perfectly
clear that yes I want peace. Yes I would love
my kids to never have to worry about crime or
or anything bad ever happening to him. You know that
we want I want good things. I want to live
in good times with good people, and I don't hope

(46:08):
for anything bad to happen. I really don't. I am
trying to protect my kids and grandkids from that. And
unfortunately I have to be truthful with myself and in
what I believe and where I see things going. And

(46:32):
it is a very negative outlook of the future, but
my particular family outcome will be positive for what I
am doing. If there be war, let it be in
my day, right, bring it now so I can deal

(46:53):
with it, so my kids don't have to Now, that's
my attitude. I like to tech.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
A person can learn anything they want. You just have
to put in the time. Right. We've got more knowledge
and information, more reference in our life right now than
any other time in history. Right, thirteen hundreds who had books,
nobody the monks. The monks had scrolls and parchments. Right,
we learned everything through someone else would train us, right,

(47:25):
and we'd find a master and say, master, teach me.
Right now, we're at a point where we could be
like computer, Right, computer, please tell me how to find,
how to do whatever I want to do, blah blah blah. Right,
and YouTube University pops up and it's like, how to
process a pig? Pooh, perfect, I got everything's right there.
Here's what I do. Now I go gotta go find

(47:47):
a pig? Right, how do I hunt deer? How do
I track? How do I like? You can do a
lot of it there, But guess what. There's like book knowledge,
there's video knowledge. I saw it, and there's actually then
you have to go do it before you have to
do it in an emergency, before you have to do
it in a crisis, before you have to do it

(48:07):
for survival. Right, learn how to do it and actually
do it frequently so that when the time comes you
don't have to go back to a reference point to
remember how to do something. You'll be like, oh, yeah,
this is how I do this. I've done this before. Right,
that's becoming a master of your own, your own ship,
your own master of your life, because honestly, no one's

(48:32):
coming to save you.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
No one's going to save any of us.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Exactly, well, only one person is.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
He's not a person anymore, right, only when one being
a guy.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
He's a man he just like like we are. But uh,
you know, I guess there's another thing I just wanted
to to bring up real quick, is that, you know,
the word parachute comes to mind, right, I'm thinking, Okay,
there are things that I do that you know, people

(49:07):
consider may consider dangerous, and people would avoid those those
types of things. But do you have are you wearing
that parachute? What and what is that parachute? And what's
your confidence in that parachute? Have you used it before? Right?
Because if you need a parachute, well, if you're going
to skydive, you you only need a parachute. You need

(49:30):
a parachute once, right, So but if you're gonna parachute
skydive again, you need it, you know, need it twice.
So you've got to be willing to jump at some
point and test that parachute. And you know, I'm not
one hundred percent sure where I was going to go
with that. But don't just be sitting around and putting

(49:55):
your confidence in other people, right, this is up to you,
This is up to me. I take it very seriously.
I hope you see that. And this one of the
reasons why I carry every day I practice what I
preach and I don't want to say I'm the real deal,
but but you know, I'm not just throwing out throwing flowers,

(50:17):
you know, to the crowd. You know, it's I'm really
trying to live by what I'm what I'm talking about here,
and and uh and and I wanted to talk about
this topic because it's getting more serious. You know, for me,
this really became even more serious this week. I don't
know why it became more serious in my mind, just
the things I'm seeing that everything comes together and makes

(50:39):
more sense in my mind and gives me more urgencies.
So I just wanted to convey that to you guys.
And and that's why I do what I do here.
You know.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Well, you're right, there's a lot of stuff that's come
out politically in what are countries doing? And there's you
just watch for those signs that we We did an
episode a little while ago, several months ago, probably now
because time's flying, but we did an episode where we
talked about the subtle language that they use and how
the hints that they drop. And I've seen it and

(51:09):
heard it in the last couple of days. Just different
things that are that are happy. You mentioned Trump meeting
with those foreign dignitaries, and you see some of the
executive orders that he's putting out, and you see some
of the chaos is happening around the country, whether it's
a natural I mean, there was a mass flooding in Tennessee.

(51:29):
We're starting to see I just don't maybe it's because
the Internet, maybe it's just really.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
I believe it's actually because the frequency is more often,
but I believe that a lot of these natural disasters
are increasing. We're starting to see the FED. I just
follow a lot of economists and things are things. They're
starting to get worried, Like people that you would see
normal mainstream are starting to talk about these issues now
as well.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
I have.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
I have actually got people tell them I see. I've
seen more posts about what is Trump doing. I think
he's trying to his base, He's messing with his base.
I've seen more economists talk about how they're worried and
they're buying gold and silver now too, Like they would
never talk about that before, or I hadn't, but recently
they started to. I was just showing Shane and Scott,

(52:17):
a guy that I follow, on the last month, he's
put up a couple of videos about precious metals. So
it's more and more coming to I think. And then
I have a friend, we've had him on the show, actually,
Eric Mutzos. He's been talking a lot about the South
cloud seating and geoengineering and the stuff they're putting. And
I just saw another lady that was saying that they

(52:37):
just they started coming out with aerosol vaccines where they
might put the they can spray it. You can actually
order it and you spray it up your nose like
a like a naval spray, and it's a vaccination. You
can sell vaccinate. You just order it from the pharmacy,
they send it to your house and you self vaccinate. Well,
if they're doing that, what are they spraying in the
sky too? You know what have they added to the

(52:58):
chemicals that they're spraying the sky. Another huge thing that
just came out that's kind of serious about in Utah
is that a huge study came out that we're one
of the leading states for child sexual abuse or something
like that, and so there's a huge fight for that
and that's not good. That's all part of the negativity

(53:18):
that we should be preparing for. Like we don't want
to keep our heads in the sand, like we need
to be watching for the signs and protecting and helping.
And there's a guy I'm not sure if you've heard
a pactor pass. He's a pastor, Victor Victor, I can't
remember his last name, but he's a pastor. His wife,
his daughter was assaulted in a parking lot and she

(53:38):
had been trained and she was sexually assaulted in a
parking lot. She had been trained and she was able
to get free and the guy that they got the picture,
she was able to take up a video of his
car and come to find out that guy's been sexually
assaulting and doing all kinds of inappropriate things to multiple
women over multiple months and has never been caught until
this now has a situation going on. So it's like

(54:01):
what what? It just seems like more and more and
there's a bunch of fighting now with with what's going
I mean, Mike had mentioned he's in animated Territory Victor Marx, Yes,
that's the guy thinks feel tech. And then there's the
whole thing with going what's going on with Newsom and
California And I'm just like I get it, Shane, I

(54:23):
get it. I'm watching it too, and I'm thinking things
are accelerating, things are moving fast, that somehow the heat
got turned up and we're headed towards boiling like quick.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Which is a promise from the scriptures the days will
be shortened so that we can't survive it. Right, Yeah,
So buckle up, eat your eat your take your vitamins. Uh,
go to prepatacher dot com, fort slash good life to
get a link to wholesale, best quality stuff. But yeah,
keep that head on a swivel, focus on what you

(55:00):
can control, fix what you have, get used to disappointment,
and really really really get resilient. Right, make that your superpower.
Because there's a lot going on really really fast, and
you can be dwelling on it and be just completely
doomsday mindset and just miserable, or it can be aware

(55:25):
of it and be putting action in and taking steps
every day to be better prepared.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Right, And I think that's I think from what I'm
hearing you say, Shane, I feel like that's the message. Right,
be sincerely, like fully engaged in this cause right now.
Number one. It's gonna help with your psyche. Right, You're
not gonna be as stressed anymore because you're gonna have
the things you need. Focus more on skills than anything else.

(55:53):
But guess what skills aren't gonna feed you if there's
no food around, right, So get some food storage, water
catchment system. Get you know, battery banks and battery power
stuff and solar panels. Sure that's great, right, but we've
survived on this planet for thousands and thousands of years
without it. Learn to live without it, learn to find it,
find the solutions and gain the skills that you don't

(56:15):
need it. Right, get a horse, get along, little buddy,
find a new solution. Guys, we freaking love talking to
every one of you, like this is our favorite part
of the week, is our live episode because we get
to interact and engage with you. Guys. If you have
not come to one of our live events, you need

(56:37):
to hop on with us, like this is so much fun.
But you got to You gotta jump in. You gotta
jump in with both feet. Get solid, get steady. Focus
on the good. The good is what you can do, right,
be the good. Control what you can do. Be better
prepared in all aspects of life by becoming resilient. Any

(56:58):
final thoughts before we end out our show.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Guys, No, I agree with that one hundred percent. Be
aware of the negativity, but build the good. Be aware
of the darkness, and let's go build light.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Amen to that, because that's the role of the apocalyptimist,
that's the goal of the ready minded. Right. This is
prepper Talk radio radio for the ready minded. You guys
are here and listening because you're focused on doing the
right things to protect yourself and your families. Right, let's
all get better at it. Let's make it our superpower. Right.
We may not be able to fly like Superman or

(57:33):
be the best detective in the world like Batman. I
don't know why that's in my head, because well I
do know my kids watching Lego Batman all the time.
But like, build your skill set, that's your best asset, right,
Increase your resilience in all aspects of life, and keep buildings.

(57:54):
Don't quit if you get negative, if you get frustrated,
if you get stuck. Like, guys, connect us, like get
in our group emergency prepp and self reliance over on Facebook.
I don't love Facebook, but hey, we're there. Like, go
to preppertalkreator dot com, join them ailing list, like we
send out emails and updates every once in a while,
but also check your spam folders because sometimes it goes

(58:15):
there right. Be resilient, help us solve that problem. Hit
reply on those and tell us you got it, and
tell Google and everybody else that hey, this is not spam.
And the final piece of wisdom that I'm going to
leave you guys with today is that no matter where
you go, no matter what you do, you are part

(58:36):
of the solution. So take care of yourself. Don't be
so hard on yourself that you get frozen and stuck.
Get help. You don't need to struggle alone. That's why
we have community. Thank you for being part of our solution,
being part of our team. Focus on the good, build
the good, build a resilience, keep that head on a swivel,

(58:58):
and until next time, stay ready minded. We'll catch you
on the next episode.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Take care, guys, stay you next week.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
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