PTR Ep 502 It's Time To Toughen Up & Become Unbreakable

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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topic tonight. We're going to talk a lot about anti fragility.

(02:11):
We're going to talk about becoming tough and unbreakable. I
like to use the words steadfast and immovable. But Scott
and Shane and I we counseled and this was this
was our kind of a favored topic for tonight on
the Live. So hopefully you guys enjoy it as well.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Hopefully so well.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I'm excited Rebecca got a first whole puncher, So good job,
Shane and inspiring that as we talk about like missa. Yeah,
Rebecca got our first whole puncher.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Guys, we oh, okay, nice, nice, Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
We preppers are absolutely bonkers because we keep doing the
same thing over and over and over again in the apocalypse.
Still hasn't it right? It's just all this wasted time
and energy. But another way to look at it is
we're putting in the reps early. We're creating strength, strength

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of mind, strength of body, strength of fortitude, our preps,
our storehouse, all those things create resilience. And in a
world where everything is designed to be self destructive, right,
the products you buy they have a best by date

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if it's consumable, right, But all the other stuff you buy.
It's designed to destroy itself, to fall apart, to break
easily planned obsolescence. And for us, we can't live that life.
We have to be tough, and that starts with mental toughness.
So I'm excited to talk about this. We haven't talked
about it in almost two hundred episodes. Shane's over here,

(03:49):
just Tidy chatting in the chat over there.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, it's kind of what you said, Scott. Something you
said reminded me of a quick video like a It
was a satire. It was one of those parody videos
about how this lady's like, I think I think we
actually went to the moon. And she was telling that
to her her friend, and her friend says, why why
do you think that? I says, because you know how

(04:13):
they say that they we don't have the technology anymore.
We're supposedly more advanced now, and like how that makes
no sense right? And then she says, but check this out,
check this out. My blender broke after just a couple
of years my blender and I called my mom and
I said, Mom, I need a blender. My blender broke,

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and she brought over a blender and I used the blender,
and I recognized while I was using it, that's the
same blender that I had when I was young, Like
my two year old blender died and her thirty year
old blender still works. She's like, maybe they did have
better technology back then and we did go to the moon.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I was just like, oh, bro, that was super's that
is a pretty good point there.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
I'd have to have to conpire argument, like, dang, bro,
she's got as funny as I saw that, And I
think I shared that with you.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Oh did you share that with me?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I think I did.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
But remember the blender was actually the mom's mom's blender originally,
so it was even better first generation blender, household blender
type of thing, like knock them if you want. But
like those things, they last forever. Like I remember my
grandparents had this vacuum that probably weighed eighty pounds. It

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seemed like it was just the biggest thing in the world.
And she, my Grandma'd be like, can't go vacuum And
I'm like, that thing is heavier than me, to which
the response was, well, it'll get you stronger, and we'd
have to vacuum her her rug area. But that thing
I remember that thing when I was six. I remember
that thing. When she passed away, someone was like handing

(05:52):
it around the family. Who wants to take the vacuum
because it still worked? And yet we're all buying these
crap plastic things that are breaking down in six months
to a year. It's crazy, It is crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
I actually, so, actually, how.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Do we tie that into anti fragility?

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Well, I did a very definition.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
My my next comment might tie it in. So I
did a little research on anti fragility and kind of
thought about and did some pondering and philosophizing about it.
And one of the things that I came up with,
or that I found, was that there's there's fragile things
that break and become worse under pressure or when they're

(06:34):
dropped or when there's some kind of situation that happens.
And then there's things that are robust or strong, like
a you know, maybe a brick or a rock or
something like put under pressure, it doesn't get better, it
doesn't get worse, it just stays the same. And then
there's anti fragility. Anti fragility is that under stress, under pressure,

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the change is not negative. It's actually a positive change.
And so you know, the one. As an example for that,
it would be like muscles under stress and strain, your
muscles grow. And how many times do we say, you know,
we need to get our mental muscles, we need to
get our mental toughness, we need to have our you

(07:16):
know whatever. It's like a muscle. Building. Working is like
having a muscle that we build, and so we analogize that,
and I think we metaphorically give that muscle a I
think we give it a pass for a lot of
things in life as an analogy. And I think that's
one of the things that anti fragility will do, is
that you know, if you if you have a product

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or service that breaks, that's fragile. If you have a
product or service that kind of stays the same, that's robust.
But if you have a product that gets better over time,
that's anti fragile. And that's kind of the I maybe
I pulled, maybe I did some mental gymnastics to kind
of tie those together, but that was that was my
best effort.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I was simply going to say, as as Shane likes
to say, we need to look to the past to
prepare for the future. Right, the old ways are the stronger.
The anti fragile ways. The old things, the old tools
fall in line with that. Right, Like whether you watch

(08:17):
ESPN one, two, three, or eight or whatever, how many
ESPN channels are, eventually you're gonna fall onto the uh.
The log cutting contests the lumberjack channel. And it's phenomenal
because guess what they've got the old crosscut saws, and
those guys are flying through wood, tearing through wood just

(08:39):
as fast as you or I could with a chainsaw. Yeah,
because they've mastered the old ways and they kept them,
kept them sharp. They know how to pull correctly, they
know how to drag the saw through the wood.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Right.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
And it's the same thing for us. We need to
become anti fragile by honing our skills, staying sharp, you know,
always improving on ourself. And it's like coal turning into
a diamond.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Right.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
It's the other analogy that pops into my mind is
like boiling water can take can take a hard potato
and make it soft, or a soft egg and make
it hard. Yeah, Well, experience can completely change the outcome.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
But the mind is the number one survival tool, right,
And so as preppers we typically go for the tools first, right,
But it is uh and mcguiver proved this, you know,
he did. He carried you know, a Swiss army knife, right,
and he proved that his mind was sharper than any tool.

(09:53):
And uh No, that was one of my favorite shows
growing up. And actually I carried I carried a the
Swiss champ on me through high school and on my
LDS mission they were in Uruguay, they'd call me McGeever
because I carried that Swiss Swiss tool with me, that swissknife.

(10:14):
But so that's the first thing we need to sharpen
is our minds, right, That's that's where antiverge fragility really
comes into play first, because when we come into hard
times or into an emergency or situation, are we mentally
ready to handle it in the very moment? And as
I you know, shared my example a couple of months ago,

(10:37):
coming across that car crash, I wasn't ready. I was
saw my mind was soft and perfectly comfy place at
the time. I wasn't ready for that that situation. But
it is very difficult to kind of live with your mind,
like you know, like I've said, I'm I'm I like
to live negatively. I have very negative in my out

(11:00):
look of really everything, And so maybe that helps my
mind to be more sharp or ready to handle an
emergency situation, to be anti fragile. So I've had people
tell me well or ask me well, because you live
this way, you're always carrying You're always carrying a fire.
I'm always have a flashlight on me, I always have

(11:20):
all my ADC with me, first aid kit, right, I'm
trying to be prepared for anything at any time. Uh.
And so you know, I've had people ask me, well,
doesn't how does that impact your everyday life? Does that?
Doesn't that like distract to detract from you? And especially
you know, we talk about a little bit about investing
on here. I'm investing for truly the anti fragile way,

(11:46):
right with gold and silver, for when things get chaotic,
that's when those are really take off. I mean they're
taking off now, but when it gets worse, that's when
they become truly anti fragile. And so is it a
detriment for me right now to be working on and

(12:07):
growing my anti fragile mind?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
No?

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I think I just want to say as human beings,
I think, as human beings, for our nature is anti fragility.
If you define it as something that gets better under
stress or understrained. And you know, I don't like the education.
I don't like the school system. I love education. But

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one of the things that you realize is that in life,
when you have a problem solving capacity, as we humans do,
you can solve problems and you can become better and
you can rise above whatever the problem is that you're facing.
And that's anti fragile in and of itself. And so
think of a little baby and they come out. They're

(12:54):
totally fragile. They fall and they break, but then they grow,
they can, they start to crawl, and they start to walk,
and then they start to run, and then you're if
you ever see them again, it's great, you know, but
they just human beings. We progress, we grow, we get better,
we get stronger, we we develop things. And then think
about our whole society. I mean, yes, we have a

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throwaway society, and yes we have some things that are
that need to be worked on and looked at, but
when you think about the infrastructure that we have and
the roads and the wiring, just just think about somebody.
Somebody came up with the internet, and it wasn't Al Gore,
but somebody came up with that kind of a sorry anyways,

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somebody came up with the science behind that, Like that's
that blows my mind that we whatever. I mean, there's
obviously negative uses for it, but there's also positive uses
for all these things. So just think about some of
the technology. I mean, I could personally, I'm just like,
whoever came up with a computer is brilliant, like in
our in our day. But at the same time, there's

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things that we maybe are singing out on by having
so much technology and so much comfort. But all of
the comforts that we have, what is it Laziness is
the mother of invention, And that's true like you when
I'm I think, I'm so I do so many things
because I'm lazy. I don't want to because I don't
want to keep doing them. I just do stuff to

(14:18):
get it out of the way and then I can relax.
And so that's something that I'm I think with prepping
is a good thing, like get your skill sets out
of the way, get your food preps out of the way,
get all the things out of the way so that
when the time comes, you're not stressed out, you can
actually be present because you know, you have prepared.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah. I think another aspect of that is, is it
or maybe saying in a different way, is just learning
to respond positively to a stressful event or anxiety, right?
And how do you develop that mindset to where instead
of saying dang it, And maybe I'm stretching that a

(14:56):
little bit in saying great, now, I can I know
how to handle this right having that positive attitude and
maybe not saying, oh, I'm glad this this is happening
right now because I can step up and I've been
preparing for this my whole life, and I wanted everything
to collapse because I'm going to I know I'm going
to shine when everything collapses, because that's kind of what

(15:18):
I'm preparing for. But it kind of my last comment,
it's a bit of a detriment, I think to me
right now, and you know, and I kind of agree
with myself that way. But but when that situation presents
itself that I can immediately recognize it because I've been

(15:39):
training or practicing or experiencing that to a lower level first,
and I can then step up and assist and kind
of like we were talking before, is we'll tend to
do more for others than for ourselves, right.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Chan It's funny because as I think of who you
are what you do, Yes, you're the negative viewpoint of
prep right the the sky's falling, but not because you're
always preparing, right You. You remind me of Liam Neeson
and taken a famous line. I have a very particular

(16:21):
set of skills, skills I have acquired over a long
career or in your case, over a lifetime of preparation,
skills that make you a nightmare for everyone else around
you in the apocalypse, right, or a beacon of hope, right,
depending on which side of the aisle they fall on,

(16:41):
whether they want to be helpful or hurtful.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Right.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
And I love that because it's like so many times
in my preparedness journey, in our conversations between you and
I and then now Shane, Shane it's you and Paris
and I. It's like when we first started this out,
you'd ask questions and I'm like, Oh, that's it's a
tough question. How am I going to respond to that?
What would I do in those scenarios? It's like the

(17:05):
game the conflicted card games, Right, what would I do
in those scenarios? If you've never thought of it. You
have no clue what you're gonna do, and your guess
is what could could possibly destroy your situation put yourself
in complete jeopardy. Right, But your analogy or your your

(17:27):
idea that like when the apocalypse happens, you're like, oh,
I prepare for this, I'm ready. Right, It's like that
moment in the game when you know the ball's coming
to you because you know what to do.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Right.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
That's what we're all hoping for in the worst of
the scenarios. Right. But also you've got to be strong
enough to not drop the ball or if it's basketball,
to make the right shot. And that comes down to
actually doing the repetitions, doing the work, not failing on practice, practice, practice,

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because a lot of times it's like, well, we'll do
something until we get it right, but an expert will
do it until they can't get it wrong. And that's
where anti fragility is is getting to the part where
we can do it so well that we can't do
it wrong. We do it so often that we can't
do it wrong that we can put it together, Like
I can take I can take down my shotgun and
put it back together. My sleep, right, that's the anti

(18:24):
fragility that we're looking for. And if ar too often
we give up or we we we get it right.
Once we're like cool, I'm good, I can walk away.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I like that. No, I was going to say that
practical or he's on his field tech account tonight, but
he says something really good too, is once you've been
an EMT or paramedic, a firefighter, rescue driver, diver, you
actually have a lot of hardening that happens mentally and physically.
And I agree that, and that goes into putting in

(18:56):
the reps. Scott. When you've done something enough times that
you were here, you're a little bit you're you're just
I guess you're numb to it. I guess would be
another way to say it, your numb to the shock. Like,
for example, I was talking to my brother in law
on Sunday, we went over there for dinner and he
was just like he was telling me about how he

(19:17):
had to have a hip replacement and he went in
for the hip replacement and the doctor told him do
not go watch any YouTube videos about hip replacements before
the surgery, and so he didn't, and then he watched
a bunch afterwards he's like, bro, am, I glad that
I didn't watch what was gonna happen to me. But
then he talked to the doctors and the doctor's like, oh,

(19:40):
they're just opening people up. There's guts all over, like yeah, hey,
look at this, and they and they I don't know
if you know this, but when you're replacing a joint,
they like take the joint and they throw it here,
put it here, make sure it all like, okay, the joint,
see in there, and then they put the bone back in.
They sew them back up, they put the muscles on,
and they it's like most people are like, I'm gross
that you even got a cut and there's blood there,
and these doctors are like, eh, let's just make this

(20:01):
bone move and see if the joint works. Here they're
putting it all over the place. And he was telling
me about one doctor that was like I did a
joint replacement, and I was so impressed with what I did.
I was flopping that arm around in the operating room like,
look at this, guys, this joint's really strong. I did
a great job. And that came from the repetitions that
it wasn't He's not necessarily a numb to it. But

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he's just not he's not shocked by the sense of
that anymore. And so that was something that goes along
with this.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
I think, I think you're looking for the word unphased.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Unfazed, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
That's better, and that's true. Like I remember there was
a time when I was I want to say, sixteen.
We were at an activity young men young women we did.
We did like youth conference for church, and on the
way back, we stopped at this lake and we were
having a picnic and a kid was Kids were crossing
the street to go to this little convenience store all
the time, and the kid got hit. A car came

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flying through and hit a kid. We all go running
over and like half the adults like froze and we're panicking,
and they were phased. They were phased hard. There were
like seven of us, myself included, that are like we're
grabbing other kids and say no, no, no, go back, go back, no,
go back. And we were able to go and help.
And it's like I I came on to the accident
and I'd seen worse and I was like, Okay, this sucks.

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We need to get We needed to splin on her quick,
like we knew what to do. We're one guy's already
taking care of everything, and the other kids and myself
were like blocking everybody, like you don't want to see
this because a leg is partially detached, right, and everyone's
just like right ready to puke. I was a little
bit phased, but I was able to get through that.
And what's interesting is afterwards, Boy did I get sick.

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Like I was able to get through the crisis, because
there's there's multiple ways, Like I got through the crisis,
and after the crisis is over, then I'm like, oh,
and I got queasy and then I started I started
crying because I was really emotional. But I was able
to have a delayed, delayed phasing or delayed response. And

(22:02):
I know that does it more and more. Like my
little brother's in a firefighter EMT rescue, pair rescue, like
he does all these crazy things. He's he's unfhased, right,
he is unphased by a lot of these things. But
you put his kid in the situation. It's his wife
is amazing, she's unphased when it's the kids and he's
a wreck. But if it's anyone other than his kids.

(22:24):
He is the toughest dude, and even now he's getting
better with his kids. But like we all have to
get to the point where we can be unphased in
our specialty and the things that we have to respond to,
but also recognize our limitations, like, Okay, if I can't
handle that, I shouldn't be the one that's the responder
for that. I need to make sure I've got someone
else in my group that can handle that.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, I'm absolutely the same way I did the EMT
thing a long time ago, and I've never been good
with blood or any of those type you know, anything
like that, watching surgery or anything like that. But when
situations have arrived, my my thoughts are in a different place,
my mind's in a different place, and I'm able to
handle it. So I think the first one of the
first things we can do is because because our minds

(23:06):
are a survival tool, is our first of our tool
is learn how to control and acknowledge and recognize our thoughts.
So that's my first steps. Okay, recognize the thoughts, and
obviously that takes some time and some practice as well,
but also to visualize, you know, Yes, we should get

(23:27):
out and get experience and doing first DAID and learning
how to put on a tourniquet and those types of
things so that when your heart's beating you in your
your mind is clear and you can perform that task.
But that can also be done with visualization to maybe
a lesser extent, and so we can't really have an
excuse saying uh, and you know we have have YouTube

(23:48):
to visualize it as well. Right, you're saying with all
these surgeries, don't go watch that surgery around there because
you don't want to visualize that before it happens to you.
But it really is a great tool for me. I'm
a very visual will learner myself. And if I can
see someone replace a fan belt, okay, I can, I
can go do that now, right it it? Visualization is

(24:11):
does work really well for me.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, and it helps to desensitize you to the you know,
to the hardship, because I mean, I I I'm flipping
through Instagram and I I think I follow Rescue Medical
and a few other like those things, and they'll put
some they'll put some of their calls on the you
know pictures and there's people with legs that are going

(24:35):
the directions they shouldn't be going and arms and other
things that and holes, and I'll watch those and I'm
a little bit maybe I'm a little crazy, but I
watch those and I clicked that it says sensitive material
click here. This video is being or this picture is
being suppressed because of some sensitive material. I'll like click
here to watch this, and I can do it. I
watch it, So there's a little bit of that. It

(24:57):
was funny. When I got our last daughter, they had
rule at the hospital. My wife went in for an epidural.
She did the epidourol in the last couple of kids
anyways she had. The doctor was like, okay, husbands aren't
allowed to stand up when we're putting the epidural in anymore.
And I'm like, why are they allowed to stand up?
Like I like, I want to help you do it,
Like give me the dad gums syringe, I'll put that
thing in my wife, right And they said apparently they

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had a lot of dads faint as the doctor would
put the thing in their wife, and so the dads
would faint. One dad had fainted, hit his head and
had to be rushed to the er, like and like,
imagine imagine that that that to me is like, Okay,
that dude was phased that those if they have a
rule about it. Now, there's enough people that are phased

(25:40):
by it. So I think that there's some there's some
reality to putting yourself in exposing that. Don't get me
wrong here, there's some real there's a reality to exposing
yourself to things that will let you have some kind
of get over it so that when the real thing happens,
you know exactly what to do and how to handle it.

(26:00):
Don't be exposing yourself though, Like.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Well, it's the idea of experimentation and tinkering, right, Like
you're always taking lots of small, calculated risks, right, A
small risk isn't isn't going to devastate a situation, So
you can tinker and you can play around with those
those more challenging situations, whether it's an experience in the
morgue or the e R or whatever, or you know,

(26:25):
doing hard things, doing dangerous things carefully. That to me
is building anti fragility and everything. Right. The more you practice,
the more you do, Like Shane was talking about, like
if you've got to replace a roof, like go replace
a roof, learn how to do it. Don't sit there
and go crap, We're going to have a hole in
the roof for the next few months while we wait
for someone to come fix it. No, anti fragility is

(26:49):
being able to go fix it yourself, knowing what to do,
how to do it, how to get up there safely,
how to stay up there safely. Right, those are the
types of things that we need to be doing on
like the regular that we avoid because we've gotten complacent,
or we've gotten soft, or we've it's easier to let
an expert do it, right. But there's gonna come a

(27:12):
time when the experts are gone and when the YouTube
university is not accessible, they're gonna be like, oh, crap,
how do I do this?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah? I guess I guess I need to uh needles. Yeah,
I can't do needles. I can't do anything that has
to do with the eye. I guess I need to
expose myself to some uh videos of what. But you know,
there are definitely some things we can do to build

(27:39):
our anti fragility right now, and and we talked about
this in the previous episode. A little bit is fasting.
Fasting absolutely can is one thing that you can do
right now to build your anti fragility, so you realize
that after a certain amount of time, you know, okay,
it's been six hours, I haven't etn' mung, and your

(28:01):
mind starts to start to tell you that you you
know that that you're in a bad situation, that Okay,
this is not normal, this is not great when your
body can really go days, weeks, even a month without
any food and it's not gonna be fun. But that's
one simple way to build that into fragility where you

(28:21):
can you know what the outcome is going to be
for fasting for twenty four thirty six seventy two hours, right,
mm hmm absolutely.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
And I like what Field Tech says. He's like, oh,
there we go. Nope, no, I was. He's thinking, he's
all to show how fragile people are when hearing about
things that aren't comfortable.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Right.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
What's interesting is is like there's those types of things, right,
uncomfortable medical situations, emergency situations, But there's also the end
comfort of being critiqued. Right, are we fragile in those cases?
Is our ego tough enough to withstand being critiqued? Because

(29:08):
in in emergency situations, there's a very good chance you're
gonna be wrong if you haven't practiced. If you haven't,
but in the time, if you don't know what's going on,
you're gonna get You're gonna get caught off guard. And
when someone critiques you, is that going to completely destroy you?
In current society, kids need a safe space, right, they
can't handle those hard truths. You're gonna have to be

(29:29):
able to handle it. And the other part of that
is building redundancy in your processes and in your systems, right,
eliminating single points and failure. You guys are laughing because
Paris is staring off into oblivion again, you guys, come.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
On, that's funny, But it's fine.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
No, I like, I like you to.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
We need to be mentally tough too. Like that's the
ability to handle them with because I I think there's
an example that I read about years ago about a
leader that I was studying, and he said that at
one point in his in his process of learning and
becoming a leader, he was in a group of and

(30:16):
he was called out from like the leader was giving
a speech and he was literally called out amongst all
these men, and he was just told all these things
and this, that and the other and he said, instead
of acting back, or instead of reacting and getting revenge,
he said, what would you have me do? Or how

(30:36):
would you have had me do it differently? And that
takes a lot of mental toughness to be called out
in front of a crowd on something that you did,
but then to say, you know what, I'm going to
swallow my pride and I'm going to say what could
I have done better? How could what would you suggest
I did better? And it was actually it ended up
being a test of character and he passed, which was awesome,

(30:59):
And it's just to be given constructive criticism, hopefully as constructive.
To be criticized in public, even in private is hard
because when we do things, we have all the justification
in our mind that what we're doing is the right
thing to do, but then when we get it, we
get somebody who kind of questions that do we get

(31:22):
triggered or do we think, you know what, maybe I
can learn something here from this person. And that's one
of the things that I think makes the Gospels great.
And the Stoicism is a fantastic example of this. I mean,
Socrates said it best. All that I know is that
I don't know and the more you learn, the more
you need to learn, and it goes. I think that's

(31:43):
a perfect that does segue into anti fragility as well.
It's because the more you learn, the better you get
it something, the more you realize that you need to
learn and you need to rely on other people even
in many cases to help you. Because I think anti
fragility is a part of that anyways, is moving from
dependence through the process from dependence to independence to inter

(32:06):
dependence where you could do it yourself, but you're working
with others that can also do it themselves, and together
synergistically you create a better result because you're working together.
And I think that has some anti fragility properties in
that process as well.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Well. Yeah, and I think you know, we're kind of
focusing on anti fragility a little bit. Mindset is also
not quite anti fragility, but it definitely has a component.
There's definitely a component in there. So one thing in
my preparation when I was I was thinking about this
is of course, with me not bringing up the matrix

(32:42):
in one of these you know, one of our episodes
is is kind of rare, so I'll bring up the
matrix up right, But this is this is the one
of the last probably the last scene in the last
movie Revolutions, where Neo's going to save the world, right,
and he's fighting Agent Smith and there's a billion Agents

(33:03):
Smiths around, and just the the you know, the questions.
He's asking, why, why why do you persist? Right? What
is it? You know? He says, why do you keep fighting?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Do you even know?

Speaker 3 (33:16):
You know?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
For what purpose? It's just a great it's a great
well monologue there, first of all, and then and then
Neo stands up, it says, because I choose to. And
obviously he had he had lots of plenty of purpose
that he didn't outline there, of all the lives he
was gonna end up saving, and then the people he's
fighting for and so forth.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
But just.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
I think of that all the time, because I choose to.
I've made the decision for whatever it might be, and
I choose to. And that is my mindset. And in
an emergency situation, whether it's the apocalypse right, coming up
with a plan, having a plan, following that play, and

(34:00):
even if it is step by step, day by day, visualizing,
practicing and training for that now, but deciding that hey,
no matter what I'm going to survive. I'm going to
reach this goal that I set of getting from here
to there. That's just something that's constantly circulating in my brain.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
I just I was reminded by what you said. There's
this great book here. It is it's called one hundred
and seventy seven Mental Toughness Secrets of the World Class,
and it's written by a guy named Steve Sebold. Steve
Sebold was trained under Oh, shoot, he's a really famous speaker,

(34:45):
Dove I think is his name Gov. Anyways, he was
trained under him, and he in a similar fashion to
you know, I think and grow rich with Napoleon Hill,
And in a similar fashion, he interviewed multimillionaires and billionaires
and found out like, what is it that keeps you
guys ticking? What is it that keeps you guys going
and moving forward in the face of great adversity and

(35:07):
in the face of great challenges? What keeps you moving?
And so he wrote this book, one hundred and seventy
seven Mental Toughness Secrets of the World Class. And I've
read it and I feel like I need to go
back and read it again because it's a process, like
you don't just read. That's one of the things that
I've realized recently too, is in terms of mindset, is
I read a book and I'm like, oh, that was

(35:28):
a really good book, and then I'll go read another
book and another book. I always trying to chasing, like eventually
I'll find the book that will teach me what I
need to do. Well, if I would just apply the
things that I learned in the book that I just read,
I wouldn't need to go read another book necessarily, And so,
you know, I don't know, I just I really appreciate
the stoics and I started The Obstacles the Way again.

(35:52):
I started that again recently and it's been a I've
read it already two times and this will be my
third time through it, and I'm like, how did I
this the first two times through? You know what I mean?
There's lessons in that book for me right now in
my life that I needed, and I'm grateful that I
did that. And so one of the things that I
think about, you know, there's that old saying that you're

(36:13):
you're the aggregate or you're the average of the five
closest friends. I think that you can have five friends
that are maybe not alive because you're studying their autobiography.
Maybe you can have some friends and people that you're
learning from that are that lived hundreds of years ago
that are providing that provide a great wisdom in their
day that's still pertinent to our day. And so I

(36:35):
just recommend if you want to go get a really
good book on mental toughness one hundred and seventy seven
one hundred and seventy seven Mental Toughness Secrets of the
World Class. It's in the video at the thirty seven
mine mark.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
What's interesting you bring that up. It's like I started
thinking more about Marcusralius and he as he aged, he
gained in so much wisdom and resilience. And part of
anti fragility is like the increasing fortification of one's self
to be better than I was before, right to It's

(37:09):
both the armoring up and the stripping down. And I
found this quote that I want to bring in and
this is kind of the perfect times. It says this.
It says, some things benefit from shocks. They thrive and
grow and expose to volatility, randomness, disorder and stressors, and love, adventure,

(37:29):
risk and uncertainty. Yet in spite of the ubiquity of
the phenomenon. There is no word for the exact opposite
of fragile. Let us call it anti fragile. Anti fragility
is beyond resilience or robustness. The resilient resists shocks and
stays the same. The anti fragile gets better.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
So the key here is not just becoming unbreakable, not
just becoming mental, be tough. It's becoming better in all
those facets of who we are right, A better husband,
a better father, a better more fit, more strong, more resilient,
more robust, more, it's more of or better than before.

(38:16):
It's a it's a constant process. I don't think it
ever stops, and that can, I think be a little
daunting to think about. But the fact that it gets
better is what we need to be striving for.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
You know that. That just reminded me, Scott of something
that kind of related to our last episode where we
talked about how great men do hard things, and it
reminded me of a book. I think it was Jim Collins,
I think wrote it Jim, I don't know. It's called
Good to Great, and one of the things he talks
about in there is that good. He talks about what

(38:54):
is the enemy of greatness, and he goes through this
whole thing where he says, is it, this is it?

Speaker 2 (38:59):
This is this?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
And he says that good enough is the enemy of
greatness because when you think you're good enough, I'm strong enough,
I eat good enough. I exercise is good enough, I
read good enough. My business is good enough, I'm making
good enough money. That good enough will keep you stagnant

(39:21):
or keep you at least progressing, so we may not
even notice that you're progressing. And I think that that's
something that I'm looking in the mirror right now, by
the way, at this because there's something that I need
to be reminded of, that good enough. I've lived a
life and I'm living a life right now where I
have a lot of things that are good, They're good enough,
and yet I being stretched and pulled and feeling that

(39:45):
divine what I call divine discontent, and where God's like, look,
good is not good enough for you. You need to
be great. You need to do more, You need to
be more. You need to have more. And not in
a a aggrandizing way or myself above others way, but
I just need to have more. Resources because I'm the
kind of person that will share those resources with those

(40:06):
that didn't follow the same path. And I just think
that if we feel like we're good enough, if we
ever say to our say, well that's good enough. Yeah,
I take that that might be your trigger reminder to say,
you know what, maybe I need to step out of
my good enough and go for greatness. And that's I
think mental toughness becoming world class and is part of that.

(40:34):
It's a whole process and it's lifelong journey.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
You know. It reminds me of the great Yoda. You know,
there is no try, only do right. Yeah, And I
think most people don't even understand what that means right.
And it's I have trouble just gribing my thoughts on

(41:02):
when I decide to do something. When you decide it's
not I'm gonna try it, No I'm gonna I'm gonna
do it. When you've decided you're gonna do it, it's
not good like I'm gonna try that. No, you're gonna
do it, or do or do not right? And again
I said, all the time, words are important, Using the
right words are important. And if we're going if I'm

(41:28):
gonna again I don't know how. I don't know the
right words to use here, right, It's uh, it is
mental toughness to say to decide that you're gonna do
something and then not only and actually do it and
follow through, but you receive divine assistance. That's the only

(41:49):
way that I can kind of I'm struggling with my
thoughts here because I'm working it out as I speak
here and fumble. But it is only for me a
colpish through divine assistance when I decide, and that's and
if I if I don't accomplish it, then I really
didn't make the decision. Right, This decision wasn't made. I

(42:10):
wasn't even trying.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
You gave yourself out.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah, exactly exactly. I gave myself an excuse, give myself
an out. That's that's a.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Perfect before you even start, that's the start.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Exactly, to decide, is.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
To decide before you start that you're not going to finish,
that you're going to give it a partial attempt.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
That you're absolutely right. Yeah, that's a great explanation there.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Either do or don't, because if you if you try,
you wasted time. If you failed, right, if you if
you didn't do it right, you can learn from that.
But if you're only try and you quit, what can
you learn from that? The lessons not finished. You don't
know how to apply these things.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
You don't know how far you can actually go.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Yeah, Whereas like and it's different because like I tried
something past tense right means I participated. That's different. Right
to try means to partially attempt. Mm hm, why am
I going to Why am I going to partially attempt
to rebuild a motor so I can have a broken
down car my driveway for the next ten years?

Speaker 1 (43:13):
One of these things. An analogy that I use, a
physical analogy that I use is that I hold out
my hand with something in it. Let's say, how hold
in the video here, I have a pen in my hand,
and I say I want you to try to grab
the pen, and if they grab it, I say you
didn't try, you did? I just want you to try
to grab the pen.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
Like what do you You know You're never going to
grab it because you're if your goal is to try something,
you're not going to do it.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
So I'm saying do it, grab the pen, don't try
to grab the pen, grab the pen. So whatever you
want to do in life, like, well, I gave it
a college try. You know, that's why you gave yourself
an out, bro But if you and failing is the
key to success. Most people don't realize that I've failed
more in my life than a lot of people. And

(44:07):
I'm sure less than a lot of people. But I've
failed a lot and I feel like, I mean what
Michael Jordan said that he has this whole thing where
he says, I failed at the free throw, That's why
I'm so good at it. I failed at the at
the at the dunking. That's why I'm so good at it,
Like because you failed more times than others. And that
mental toughness and is huge when you when you fail

(44:31):
and you get back up and you keep going. Like Edison,
what did he do ten thousand He didn't find? He
didn't fail ten thousand times? He said, to find the
light bulb, he said, I figured out. I found ten
thousand ways that didn't work until I found the way
they did. That's mental toughness, like the guy to keep
going after everybody tells you to quit when you know

(44:51):
something's good and something's right and shouldn't I mean, when
God tells you when you're like, hey, God, should I
quit And he's like, yeah, you should quit. You've been
doing the wrong thing. But that's different than what if
you know you're doing what's right, go for it and
do it, and go for it, and you'll have divine
I think, like what you said, Shane, you'll have that
divine assistance. I liken it to another analogy where like,
if you're driving down the road and it's pitch dark,

(45:15):
and you're driving down the road, the headlights can only
light up the first the next maybe two hundred feet.
You don't have to have the whole road illuminated. You
just need to have the first one hundred to two
hundred feet whatever that is in front of you to know.
And then you just keep going and then you'll see
the turns, you'll see what it'll eventually be illuminated to you.
And that's a great analogy I think for what we're

(45:37):
talking about here.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Yeah, I like that you mentioned Michael Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan.
Now I got Michael Jackson in my head. So if
you want to make the world a better place, take
a look at yourself and make a change. Woo also
attributed to Batman and like a batman. We'll see that
a lot. I wanted to talk about Kobe Bryant and
his quote on failure. Have you guys read that? Oh?

(46:00):
He did. He gave this interview. It was so good.
The interviewer asked, She's like, what do you how do
you accept all the different failures you've had in your career?
And he goes, failure doesn't exist. It's a figment of
the imagination. And he continues, He's like, even after a setback,
the only way a setback becomes a failure is when
someone decides not to progress from it.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
That's all.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
You decide not to progress from it. It's like, that's
completely that's that's the difference of learning or shrinking, shrinking,
going backwards, degrading in thyself. Right when I when I
and I only saw this like two weeks ago, and
I was like, it's been on my mind ever since.

(46:44):
Failure doesn't exist. What does exist is not learning. What
does exist is giving up in the pursuit of excellence.
And it's like, we have to now more than ever,
continue to progress forward. Let those experiences, let those tests,

(47:04):
because life is tests. It's a series of tests. It's
not like school where it's a series of lessons followed
by a test. Right, life is tests things that prove
whether you're going to rise or whether you're gonna shrink,
whether you're going to succeed, whether you're going to quit, right,
whether you're gonna shrink from challenges or whether you're going

(47:26):
to go headlong into them, whether you're going to fortify
yourself so that those obstacles in life take less and
less from you every time you hit them. Right, why
do we prepare so that those obstacles in life, whatever
they may be, have a smaller and smaller impact on us.

(47:47):
That is anti fragility. That is the goal. And I
love like field Tech says so many good things. He's like,
we as prepared. People need to become combat hardened within life.
We are the only ones to save ourselves. No one
is coming to save us, and fragility will cost us greatly. Wow,

(48:08):
what a beautifully put way to say that, Thank you,
field Tech. It's up to us. No one's going to
save us. Right when it comes to saving Jesus is
the only one that saves. But he's not going to
save us from the experience of life. Right, He's going
to save us through the through to the eternity. We'll
still struggle, we'll still falter, we'll still have problems. That's

(48:33):
the whole reason we're here is to experience these things,
not to be exempted from them. So we have to
face them. We have to choose to progress or shrink.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Completely agree. That's what I was going to share for
kind of my closing costs. That closing comment there is
that ruined it. It's uh yeah, no one's coming to
save you. And especially, as I would say, is the
head of the household for us here and all of
you who are here consistently. I know you guys are

(49:11):
taking the lead in your families and it's up to
each of us. And I can't put on anybody else.
But that's why you're here. I know that's why you're here.
So I probably don't even need to say that.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Well, I'm just I'm grateful for this sounding board, if
you will, right, we can talk about these things because
each one of us kind of brings me to a
different questioning path than like, Okay, Shane said this, Now
I got to think about that, Paris said this. Now
I got to think about that field Tech or Sandra
or someone pointed this out, and so now I've got
to then internalize that over the next week and think

(49:46):
about it and see how can I improve my situation,
How can I improve and become more resilient or more anti fragile,
always becoming better, And it's that's kind of my twenty
twenty five is my year to thrive, right, That's kind
of what I've titled this year, even in the apocalypse,
It's my year to thrive to become better in every

(50:10):
facet of who I am than I was at the
start of the year. I'm not competing against Shane, I'm
not competing against field Tech, I'm not competing against Paris.
I am improving upon myself. Like that is the progress
we all need to be working on in our preps,
in our mental, our spiritual, our emotional states. Those are
the things we need to be creating more and more
resilience and more robust so that we can become better

(50:33):
and all facets of life, because we're going to need
every single one of those in the coming days, weeks, months, years.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Totally agree I was. I've been listening to a lot
of different podcasts and one and of course I've one
of my favorites to listen to whenever she gets a
chance to speak as Catherine fits and she mentioned in
a podcast recently that I was listening to that if
we're going to really defeat the evil in this world,
we need to come together as righteous people seeking righteousness,

(51:05):
and we need to She said that if ten percent
of the people went down to Chase JP Morgan Chase
and pulled their money out and said we're not going
to do this anymore, she said, it would disrupt the
whole system. It would throw them off completely. They you know,
for they might have a contingency plan for something like that,
but I think it was shocked the world elite if
we stood up and we did something like that. And

(51:25):
then she said that it's an all or nothing thing.
Either we become righteous and then we help others become righteous,
or we're not going to make it because it's we
have to do it first, and then we have to
help our and spread the word. And I think that's
the mental toughness comes down to that we have to

(51:45):
it's not easy to be awake. It's not easy to
see what's going on with the world and really see
what it's going on with the world. We don't get
you know, the three of us have conversations offline that
we don't even get into some of the rabbit holes online.
So I'm just telling you we've been down a lot
of rabbit holes. If you want to ever talk to

(52:06):
us offline or in a separate situation than on YouTube,
then let us know. But I'm telling you it's not
easy to have and to still be kind and still
be gracious and still be loving in knowing what the
what's really happening in this world. So my hat's off
to all of you that are living a good life,
who know things and who know what's really going on

(52:28):
in the world, and are still trying to bring in
righteousness and bring light to the world, because that's how
we defeat darkness. We defeat darkness by by the light
bringing more light into the world. And so those are
my final thoughts. Anything else you guys want to add
to that or are we good to close? Well, thank

(52:48):
you guys so much for listening to Purple Talk Radio Radio,
for the ready mind of the podcast, for the prepared
we are. We're closing out our live tonight. Just as
a quick reminder, I'm going to end the show like
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have a great week.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Guys. Take care yes week.

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