PTR Ep 503 What Is The Worst That Could Happen?

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to another episode of Prepper Talk Radio Radio for
the ready minded with the Podcast for the Prepared, with
your hosts Scott Shane in Paris, we are super excited
to bring to you a full jam packed episode of
what are the worst things that can happen? So we're
going to talk about worst case scenario, the worst worst cases.
We've had some pretty interesting things happening in the world,

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so we're gonna talk a little bit about.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Worst case scenarios.

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talk about what are the worst things that can happen?
What are the worst case scenarios and worst things that
can happen in the world right now. So, Scott Shane,
how do you guys feeling and what do you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
What are you guys thinking? Happened?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Another chapter in my Think Negatively book, right, I mean,
there's a lot of optimism bias out there, and I'm
saying that like that's a bad thing, and I kind
of think it is. I mean, it's obviously good to
be optimistic, but to be biased for optimism with every situation,
I don't think that's a good thing. And I think

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over the last week in particular, that's kind of proven itself.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I'm still working through that theory of mind.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
But so what do you back up in a little bit? Yeah, bias?
Who Who's who's biasly optimistic? Are you blaming? Is that me?
Am I the good guy?

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Like?

Speaker 4 (03:02):
No, I mean who is this?

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Who are these I mean I'm not going to name names, obviously,
but and you people probably know who they are. Those
are the people who don't listen to us for the
most place, I would think, so that you know, they
those who think they have to prepare for the future.
That's not not very optimistic, right, So I don't know,

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I'm just throwing this out there, thinking this out you know,
as as I'm speaking, right, this is just a work
in progress. But but an optimism bias, I think in
general can be detrimental and and I've thrown some examples out.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
I think I know what you're talking about, Shane, And
in fact that you know, there's a little and it's
maybe more subconscious than conscious, because I think a lot
of people think everything's great and everything will continue to
be great. My job is great, I'm continuing to get
my paycheck and everything's great. Nobody thinks they're going to
get laid off, you know, nobody believes they're going to
be let go. You know, everything's great, We're going to
go to this, you know, whatever event, and you know

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the next thing, you know, you've got to hold a
horror scene in front of you. So like there's an
optimism bias in the world, and there's that's I think
that one of the other. And when I have conversations
with people about you know, the secret combinations or the
world elites, or the deep States and the dark shadows
and the conspiracies, people are like those those can't be possible.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Nobody would do that. There's not a human being that's
that evil.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
And I'm like, you know what, in my opinion, I'm like,
you know what, I really appreciate the fact that you're
such an optimismist optimist that you don't even believe that
human beings can be that that way or that things
can be that bad. And I appreciate that actually because
it's not even in your mind to think like that,
which means that there are probably somebody I should hang

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out with more and then just help them kind of
come around. But man, there's some I think I think
that's kind of where you're going.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Maybe is that so fair anybody.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
I don't have anybody like that in my circle. Like
all I hear all the time.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Dude, you have a couple of beings sucks.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
This is the worst.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
My kids are job.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
My kids are optimistic, but like like in laws, neighbors,
like everyone has like their their box of complaining that
they carry around all the time, like this is so bad,
that's so bad. I have one retired neighbor who comes
and knocks on the door and lets me know that
my sprinklers have been on for too long. And I'm like, no,

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they haven't, and then he proceeds to tell me all
the woes of the world, and I'm like, dude, go like,
I know you're retired, and I know you have your
pension because you're piloting. He's an awesome dude, but he's
also like he needs something productive to do. But like,
I feel like everyone around me is just like it's
the apocalypse upon us. It's the end of the world.

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And then Charlie Kirk was assassinated and like we're over
here going what just happened? We all, all three of
us live in Utah. I went to UVU, Shane went
to UVU back when it was UVSC for both of us.
Did you go before then? No, uv CC, you went
back when it was uv CC. We got guys. What

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we have here is a relic of a time gone by.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
It wasn't even a university at this time is Utah
Valley Community College.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
And before it was, it was just a trade votech school.
So like, we've watched this thing grow into what it is.
And I'm wearing my uv hat well worn. You can
see it's kind ripped up here, but I've had this
hat for gosh twenty five years ish, Like nobody would
have expected this to happen, right, especially the people that

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were there. There were rainbows and sunshine. This is gonna
be a great event. It's gonna be fun. This is
beginning exciting, and our whole state is I mean, I
know our nation is is wrecked right now, right emotionally wrecked.
There is a revival going on, but like for the
most part, everyone around me has been MOPy, moody, depressed

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about the current state of affairs. Oh, the housing of
bubbles so bad. I'll never be able to buy a house.
The economy is so bad, I'll ever right. But we
And then I talk to people outside of this the
area of Utah, and I talked to my contacts in
like Pennsylvania, and they're like, oh, yeah, there's ice raids,
there's this going on. There's that going on, Like you
can't go out, there's nowhere safe to go. And I'm

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like what. And it's like, I feel like the opposite
is who I'm surrounded by. You guys are like the
ever optimist, optimist prime people around you. They're like, oh,
I represent the happy people of America. We're gonna make
this work.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Like I was giving more towards like the subconscious people
that just don't they don't seem to be they're they're
not negative, they're not positive, but they they're living as
though everything is going to be great. Like they're not preparing,
they're not planning, they don't have the emergency funds. They
keep consuming as though every as though their income is
just going to keep going on forever.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
They keep I think that's.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
What Yeah, And I think there's a there's a slight difference.
There's a difference between between the two.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
And no one.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Wants to live their lives as a pessimist. Right, That's
not what I'm saying either. Right is again going back
quickly to my example of where on a Sunday morning,
I came across the car, right was my last thing
on my mind. I wasn't even prepared slightly for it,
And you think I would have been, But you know,
because I'm the prepared guy, Right, I was supposed to

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be ready for it, and I wasn't. But and I
think it's more of being ready at any given moment
for the worst to happen. And maybe that's exaggerating, right,
but not always expecting everything to go perfectly, because if
you're expecting to go perfectly. You're not gonna to set
yourself up for success. And being prepared and having a

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bit of a you know, pessimistic view is probably gonna
save your in certain situations, right because you foresaw that,
you were looking ahead and saw the possibilities, and you
protected yourself against those possibilities. And I think part of
that is like like when your kids go out with friends.

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You know, I'm going to my friend's house, I'm gonna
ride my bike. Wait a second, hold on, I got
to know all the details. Right, there's the worst case
scenario popping up in my mind that the word that
my daughter's gonna get kidnapped. I mean, that's worst case
right out of anything I can possibly think of. Right,
It's okay, what do I do to prepare myself to
prepare her for that? And how do I limit that?

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And and of course I'm optimistic enough to say, you know,
we're in a safe community, this and that, this and
that and and and take all the factors into account,
yet still be pessimistic enough to say, no, we're going
to take some precautions and I'm either going to drive
you there or we just make some you know, make

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some some rules or whatever, and uh and prepare her
and and so forth. Uh to be to be uh
to see the dangers. I mean, it's there's a lot
we can do there. But that's more along what I'm
I'm thinking on this conversation is rather than just being negative,
but being pessimistic and being watchful.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Right. I think I like that. I look at it
this way, like you cannot be prepared perfectly prepared for everything, right.
We try to prepare. That's why we're prepared ers, as
you like to point out, we're prepareders. We're constantly preparing
for the worst that can happen, so we can hopefully
be ready right or more ready, more able to respond,

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more willing to endure and respond right. I think the
more we are, the more tools we have, the more
prepared we are in our mind and our body and
our right, in our spirit, and in our preps. It
gives us an edge when things go awry. Right, and

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things go awry all the time. I'm like Captain a
Rye over here like it. My my life is a
perfect example. I'm the poster child for why prepping is
an everyday thing because things go awry all the time,
it's like, oh, we don't have enough money for that.
Good thing? We got food storage. Oh we have more
than enough money for that, but not for this. Oh

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it's a good thing. We have backup tools, right, Oh,
disability like whatever it is, like.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well, let's call it Murphy's law too, right, I mean
Murphy's laws. It can go bad. It can't go wrong.
It probably will, And I think just expecting that and
preparing for it and being ready for it, that's that's
up to Actually very optimistic in my opinion. It's not pessimistic.
So I mean, of course I have an optimistic view
about the future as well, that the system will reset,

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those in power will lose power. It's very optimistic, you know.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Well, and I look at okay, as we've been prepping
for this for a couple of weeks now, for what's
the worst that can happen, Like I've been thinking along
the lines of the worst that could happen for micro
level my family and macro level the world. Macro level
the world is World War three. To me, that's the
worst that can happen, h Right, an immediate change of scenario,

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and we had we've had an immediate immediate change of
scenario here in the United States, the temperaments completely flipped, right,
Oh yeah, And there there are groups right now that
are all about vengeance. There are groups right now they're
all about let's pray for everybody. There's like there are
people within every camp across the United States regarding this
as well as the world. But I think what's been

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interesting to watch is how more people have sued for
peace and try to be peacemakers through this than anything else.
And so then I look at, Okay, what's gonna happen
on the world stage Israel's than what seven conflicts, seven
wars right now at the same time, right those guys
can't can't try to get peace no matter what they do,
because they're so bent on war. We're like, what a

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yards throw away from getting sucked into all that at
any given time, because we just pass what a nine
hundred billion dollar or nine hundred million dollar budget to
help with with them going forward. But then I just
heard yesterday that Netanya who's like, no, we don't want
your money anymore, we don't need your help. And I'm like,

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what is crazy man gonna do?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, what's going on over there?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
It's and then I heard I need to go from
this spanterer. But now I heard Trump saying he's gonna
go build, rebuild Gaza. That could be that could be
the worst that could happen. He could go in there.
And the cause of making it better is what undoes

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everything else.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Well, I think for you know, a lot of people,
and I'm trying to stay on top of current events
and such, but for a lot of people, the worst
is happening. They're losing their jobs right, Inflation is eating
away their budgets. You know, they can't pay their bills,
can't stay on top of their debts, They're racking up
credit card debt.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
You know, it's.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I wouldn't call that worst case, but in the moment
that's about you know, that is pretty much a worst
case scenario in the very moment.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Right.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Of course, it can get worse from there and so forth,
but you know, and of course we're about solutions, right,
and we talk about these things until I'm blueing the
flit in the face, right about what we can do.
I think everybody knows who listens on a regular basis,
the things that we can do that we can each

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do if we recognize what the worst case scenario could
be and maybe it's some of that fear that's motivating, right,
because I think, and I'm sure you can correct me perish,
But isn't fear like one of the most motivating forces
out there. It's not love, it's not compassion. It's usually

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fear that drives people.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Will pain and pleasure the two most powerful forces. But love,
love and authenticity do have a higher frequency and motivation
than fear. But fear is like, right there, dude, let's say.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Fear and pain.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
M h.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
So it was interesting because I was reading last night
in my book The Obstacle is the Way, which is
all about Stoicism, and well, actually I was reading this
set the Daily Stoic, the Daily Stoic, you know things,
and I and I came across this and it was
interesting because it's it's exactly perfect for our show today.
And it's a Latin. The Stoics practice of mentally preparing

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for the worst is known as by in the Latin
part of me, the Stoic practice of mentally preparing for
the worst is known by the Latin phrase pre mediato malorum,
which means the premeditation of evils. And so it's a
stoic philosophy to be ready for what what could happen?
Before Seneca, many times he and even Marcus Relius, before

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they would actually go and plan something, they would say, Okay,
what are the worst things that could happen? And they
prepare a list of worst case scenarios before they would
go out on an adventure or go out to travel,
or do proceed with any kind of strategy or whatever
they were going to do when their in their work
or their day. And so it's interesting that that stoic

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philosophy is, you know, clearly hundreds and hundreds of years old,
but it's something that we're still trying to grapple with
and understand today. And it's so it's to me when
I saw that, I was like, you know, it's I
was like, Shane needs to read this chapter because it
was a perfect you know, you talked a lot about
the pessimism and some of the realism more realism honestly,

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and that's true because if you if something that if
you've kind of you can't plan for everything, but if
you can premeditate a few of the things that could happen,
then you're going to be a lot better off. Even
if something happens completely different than what you thought about,
because you've already kind of gotten your brain wrapped around Okay,
these are the things that could happen, the problems that
could happen, and this is how I'll be prepared and
ready for them. So your mindset is already in a

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solution recognition of problem headed towards solution.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Process.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
And I think that's the power of recognizing the problem.
A lot of people think, well, if all you ever
do is talk about the problems, then and there is
a lot there is a lot of people that just
sit around and just talk about the problem of the
world and don't ever come up with anything good to
do about it. And so, but if you're a stoic
and you're thinking about this philosophy, they premeditated the evils

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that could happen to them so that they could be
prepared for them and have the solution for them when
they came. That was the whole that it wasn't So,
just to put it all into context, is they studied
out what could happen wrong, and then they prepared for it,
and they had contingency plans. And that's kind of something
that I think that is right along the lines of
our topic tonight.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
I really like that.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
I'm going to start integrating that a little bit more,
actually writing down a list.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
You know.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
The first thing that came to my mind is, you know,
I've spent a lot of time in the backcountry hiking
and and you know, looking for caves and in pretty
harsh conditions where I probably shouldn't be in at times.
And the things that I'm always hyper aware or try
to be hyper aware of our snakes, rattlesnakes in particular,
right and falling rocks. So my ears are very attuned

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and in my vision as well when going around rocks
or whatever might be hiding be a hiding place for
a rattlesnake. And I would say this has saved me
pain multiple times.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
And it's just something you know that it takes practice
and and just some some simple awareness, you know. I
see these people that go out into the Amazon or
into the uh just in swampy areas. I'm like, I
would never go out the because I don't know what

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I'm looking for. Snakes and all these creatures and alligators. Yeah,
and just those dangers keep me away from those places.
I mean, I'm not anywhere near those kind of places anyway,
But where I am near, I have learned how to
deal with the dangers that are around there, and I
don't let it hold me back from going in there.
And so I assume it would be the same for these
other people that have to deal with ants that can

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carry you away and and you know, wires in the
middle of the night, right and that in the jungles.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
I mean, speaking of the concrete, speaking of the jungle.
Let's talk about the concrete jungle for a minute. You know,
just getting on the freeway sometimes you have to just
think about is that guy gonna do something dumb and
cut me off and I'm going to go flipping down
the road, you know. So that's every time somebody passes me,
or every time I pass somebody, I just think to myself,
what's the worst that could happen.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I'm looking for an exit route. I'm looking for if.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
This guy swarts that way, I'm going to go this way.
And it is a little bit exhausting, but at the
same time it's I think that's part of the process
of constantly being ready and aware of, you know, premeditating
the evils that could happen. To you and being ready
for them and having solutions and having a way out
and an exit strategy. I think, you know, is anybody
who's you know, got some tactical training, they're always looking

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for the exits. They know how many doors, they know
that their awareness of what's happening, where things are going,
they don't get themselves locked up into a crowd very easily,
or at least not unless it's absolutely you know, you
can't happen. My daughter and I are going to go
to a fan X next Saturday, and so I'm a
little bit nervous about, you know, what are the what

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are the worst things that can happen? I'm going to
have to write a list out myself for that kind
of adventure. So we're going on a family vacation and
those are some things I'll be thinking about too now.
So you know, what's the worst that can happen? Is
there's a lot there's things that what is the worst
that can happen in life? What is the worst going
to happen today? What's the worst that can happen in
your office? What's the worst that can happen? And while
you're driving home, like there's a lot of areas where we.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Can apply this.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
What's the worst that can happen is a question and
figure things out, because you know, if you look at
the whole of the world, the worst that can happen
is that someone dies. But then you look at the reaction,
like this last week, we had an assassination on somebody
who was very well beloved by a lot of people,
and I'm one of those and the result of that

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that was the worst thing that could happen. However, I'm
looking at the result of that, and yes, I think
the wicked and evils are going to are celebrating. That's
something that I wasn't expecting. What I also wasn't expecting
is to see all of the different people that are

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Christian influencers, Like my church was full this Sunday, Like
it was crazy to hear and see that. I was like,
you see all these people are like, I'm going to church,
I'm getting about my first suit, I finally dusted off
my Bible. Like so, sometimes the worst case scenario can
have a ripple effect that ends up being very positive.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
And I think.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
It's just weird how that it's just like a paradigm.
It's one of those weird paradoxical things of life that
sometimes the thing that you think is the worst thing
can have a result that ends up being really positive.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
That's just crazy.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
But it's interesting as you brought up the premeditatio malorim,
I hope I'm saying that, right, Yeah, that's good. It's
the strategy of it. Right, there's the doom and gloom mindset,
the full like fear mode of life, the panic anxiety
mode of life. That's not the same as this. This

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is there's a strategy behind this. What's the worst that
can happen? How can I solve it? Right?

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
And it's funny because it's I feel like great grandparents, grandpa,
like those generations long gone. Those are the guys that
they had a solution. Oh I know how to fix that.
Oh I can fix that. Oh no problem, we can
go this way. Right. They had maps memorized, they had
a knowledge of how to build just about anything it
felt like, right, And it's interesting how far lost those

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skills are in today's society.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, we have.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
We have pulled away from being able to do things
ourselves to no, no, no, just hire someone for that.
And and that that's the case for business tragedy. Right,
if if you don't know what to do, you're gonna
have to hire someone, you're bringing a consultant. Right If
if your family situation goes crazy, you're gonna have to

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call an ambulance, if something, you know, something goes wrong.
Whereas before it was just like, just take care of it.
If we have the hospital thrown on the back of
the truck, let's go, right. But now it's it's everything
is out of our ability to respond to. And I
think that in and of itself is the worst that

(24:29):
can happen, and it's already happened. We have removed as
a society, We have removed ourselves from the solution, and
therefore have become a bigger problem. Yeah, I think you're
absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
And of going back to what Paris was saying, is
when you get on the freeway, you know, I teach
my kids, my driving kids, that when you're when you're driving,
you're driving for everyone. You're not just driving for yourself, right,
because most likely they're not just like you're saying, Scott,
They're think everybody else is going to take care of them,
and that if they move, everybody's gonna move. Out of

(25:05):
their way that you know, that's that's I mean, that's
obviously what ends up happening for those who are watchful
and who are prepared, who are expecting the worst, and
and and again, speaking about the freeway, one of my
items on my list is being stuck on the freeway
during a disaster. That's one of the my worst case scenarios.
And being far from home.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
You know.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
So we've talked about this in many different shows. Is
is I go heavy? I carry go heavy heavy in
my vehicle to try and prepare for those situations and so,
but but exactly, I think you're you hit it right
on the nose there, Scott.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Well, it's it's funny because like when you go heavy
in your vehicle, like in some vehicles, that can hurt
you financially, right, But in your vehicle it doesn't matter.
You could you could add another thousand pounds and the
gas minds probably wouldn't change.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
It's hurt me financially regardless. That's a low gas mileage truck.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Yeah, that's it doesn't make it worse, right, right, there's
no reason for me, right, there's no reason for me
to not go heavy. That's the world we need to
live in. We need to live in. It's already as
bad as it could get. It can't get any worse.
Like not that we give up on everything, but like that,
it simplifies things because when you're in that state, you

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don't you have less to stress over.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Well, like I've said many times, is if you're prepared
and there's an emergency, is there really an emergency?

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Right?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
You know, I've said that a million times. If a
tree falls in the forest and nobody's there to hear
it didn't make a sound kind of the same principle.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, I see where you're going there.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I want to add to what Scott said earlier about
how people are just we've become we've separated ourselves from
the solution. And I think what happened is that there
was things that were working, conservative things that were working,
you know, God, family, country, community like things that were
working that actually brought about happiness, that brought about peace

(27:03):
and more serenity and just more you know, life flowed
more readily and more easily, and we could figure things out.
Then all of a sudden, this idea like let's figure this,
we don't like that any that conservative you know thing
anymore let's and I totally agree that every once in
a while you got to try something new just to
see how it works. And I feel like in our

(27:26):
effort to find new solutions, we're letting go of all
the things that actually worked, and we're trying to find
a solution to replace something that worked with something that's
not working. And we're obviously it's not working because book
at where we are, the results are what show you

(27:46):
or tell you whether or not something is working or not.
And so I feel like, you know, what if if
what we've tried isn't working, let's go back to the
solutions that were.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
And that's not the common practice nowadays. Like you're saying,
we're we're moving to AI. If you ask me, that's
worst case scenario. I don't see anything good coming from AI.
And I think you're absolutely right. Paris is instead of
moving forward and instead of saying, what's the saying, you know,

(28:17):
instead of asking, you know, yeah we can do this,
but should we do this? And nobody seems to be
asking that, uh, and if they are, they're you know,
they're not.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Being honest with themselves.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yeah, people need to work.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
That is life.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Work is life, and we need it away from them,
there's no purpose.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
And we need community. We need to come together, We
need unity. We don't need to be divided. We don't
need to be arguing. It's not it's not about right left,
you know, straight not straight, you know whatever. It's about community,
it's about okay life. It really boils down to my
opinion the Constitution, and the Constitution says that it was
written for people, we the people, and et cetera, et cetera.

(29:00):
And then it says in the pursuit of life, liberty
and the life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And
so if if you live your life in such a
way that you're you want to pursue life, liberty and
the pursuit of your happiness, and you leave me alone
to live my life and liberty and have my pursuit
of happiness, then we're good.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
The minute you start.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Telling me what my life should be, what my liberty
should be, and what my pursuits of happiness should be
and infringing upon those things. And now we've got in
a situation, and that's where I think a lot of
things are happening. It's like there's whole there's whole agendas
out there of we got to change your life because
I want you to have my life.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
That's not how it works, bro well.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
And we were kind of born into that system, a
system of compulsion.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Right.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
There's so many things we just don't have the choice
to not participate in. You know, I didn't mean to
bring that up to go into any kind of depth
with that, but we kind of are living in that
worst case right now.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
You know.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
It's we refer to the matrix often on you know,
and some people want to stay in that matrix. You know,
ignorance is bliss. But once you wake up and you see,
and you have eyes to see and ears to hear,
and and you realize truth, and it does take more
than that. I think it takes some internalization, some thoughts,

(30:16):
some deep thinking, some stoicism. I'll bring that in there
to really realize what that actually means. You know, everybody's
out for comfort and convenience, and that's what you know,
AI is going to give to us, so we can
just relax and be artists and and do whatever we want.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
That's for me, that's.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Not what life's about, right, It's about work. It's about
making progress on your own and not asking someone else
or something else to do it or figure it out
for you.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
We talked about that kind of a long along those lines,
like I don't three months or four months ago, and
if I remember, Shane, you shared something that was peaking
my mind. But it was it was basically along the
lines that when we used to work hard, we had

(31:09):
less to worry about. Now that we work easily and
everything is easier, we have more to worry about. Right,
There are more stressors in life the less hard you work.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
That's a good point.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
And I was like, that's so true.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Well, it goes back to the idle mind is the
devil's playground, and work as an eternal principle. In my opinion,
it's it's a principle of godliness and it's a characteristic.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Of Christ, is you know teaching.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
So to me, when you're working, you're you're andre. If
you're actively pursuing and being engaged in good causes, then
you're do you have no room for the enemy to
get in there and and tempt you and and scream
in your ear and.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Have you do Those choices are being taken away from
us because of the system we've been were compelled to
be in at the moment. I mean, look at all
these younger I want to call them kids, because you know,
I'm in my fifties who've gotten their degrees, bachelor's, masters,
some PhDs, and they can't find a job on their
field and they're working minimum wage job or whatever something

(32:12):
outside their field, which is not fulfilling. It's not what
they wanted to do. And this angry there exactly. There's
there's so much going on with that. And then of course,
now now let's make this more complicated than that AI
into there to try and solve those problems. Now it's
it's look into the past that's going to solve those problems.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
And not just not just AI. I mean even let's
let's pull back the technology one layer back. I think
it's with any kind of blue light cell phone, just
technology where our brain. There's a whole thing right now.
And I, in fact, my daughter.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Is I was what was I reading?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
I was watching something and we were talking about the
dopamine dearth, the dearth of dopamine because of all of
this were so tied up in our finger our thumbs
on our phones and the ding and the notification, oh ding, ding,
you know, you get all this dopamine and it overwhelms
your dopamine to the point where you actually now have

(33:11):
a I use the dearth. You know that that's where
it's like it's gone. It's like a famine of dopamine.
Your dopamine is gone. And when your dopamine is gone,
you have no energy to eat, you have no energy
to exercise, you don't want to get up off your
assets and do anything. And it's like, I think there's
a huge situation. So I'm I've actually looked into some
blue light blockers and I'm I actually told my daughter, Hey,

(33:35):
we're gonna unfortunately, we're gonna limp for your own good,
we're gonna limit some of the phone time. And I
was I feel bad because as a parent, I'm like, oh, yeah,
it's fine, it's technology. She's she's talking to.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Her friends whatever. I'm like, wait a minute, you know,
maybe some of.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
The reasons why there's a little bit of that what's
it called where you're inertia, where you're just you're just
kind of there, you're not really participating, you're just there.
I'm like, maybe it's because her dopamines so low, so
we're We're actually going to get some dopamine stuff and
see if it helps. But that's something else that I
was thinking, is that, you know, if you I'm going

(34:10):
to go back a little bit to some of the things.
The worst case, in my opinion, one of my greatest
fears is that I have I lose the ability to
make money. That to me is a worse that can
happen scenario.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
And but the more the root is that just to
support your family.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, right, Like I like, if I can't, if I'm
not if money's not coming in and it has.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
To go out to pay all the bills, what the
heck does that mean? That?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
To me, that's a that's one of my biggest fears
is not being able to provide for my family. And
because I get hurt or my wife gets hurt, somebody
gets hurt where we can't, the income slows down or stops.
And that's one of the major reasons why I believe
in building passive income streams. And so my what is
the solution to that for me? Build a passive income

(34:59):
stream so that if I physically, you know, hopefully if
I physically get disabled or something becomes really bad, hopefully
I can still you know, type or still make phone
calls and still like do a little bit to maintain
those things. But that's like I think about some of
that stuff. To me, that's one of the worst case
scenarios for my family. A worst case scenario would be

(35:21):
that I died without life insurance, or that I died
or that or another worst case scenarios that you have
a major medical issue and you have no health insurance,
you know, et cetera, et cetera. Those to me are
some of the those are headed towards worst things that
can happen in my brain in my mind.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
So yeah, that's make a.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Plan and prepare and financially get you know, insurance and
other things prepared and ready.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
And again that's another thing I see I'm seeing a
lot is homelessness. You know, that's that is a big deal.
And you know, and again not to try and go
get to political, but what's happening in DC, you know,
kicking the homeless people out, and and it's kind of
starting to happen everywhere in legislation against being homeless or
camping in public or on public lands and so forth.

(36:05):
Things are working against us. And again we're kind of
born into the situation where we have very limited choices
to deal with those types of things. And so, like
you say, we feel like we really have to have
a constant income stream which we're kind of forced into
to deal with everything that we're born into. Right. I mean,

(36:25):
it's a kind of an evil circle, you know, it's
an evil circle of life, whatever you want to call
of anti the opposite of life.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I mean, another similar situation that kind of is headed
towards that worst case scenario that can happen. My brother
who lives in California, he got a notification from his
homeowner's insurance policy that apparently they flew a drone over
his house and they didn't like what they saw on
the side of the backyard, and so they gave him

(36:55):
a notification they were going to cancel his homeowner's insurance
unless he cleaned it up and then provided video or
picture footage that it was ready to go and cleaned up.
And I'm just like, what is going on in California, dude,
because I know that there's a My dad was telling
me that they're cracking down on nobody wants to insure
houses in California because none of them. There's all the

(37:17):
laws and everything in the business. The insurance businesses are
finding that ensuring people in California is more expensive than
anywhere else, and they're like, what if.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
You live in California, bro, that's not your fault.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Like, I'm a homeowner, it's not my fault that there
are now no homeowners insurance companies like that, and my
house burns down, I'm out, I'm up up a creek
without a paddle, you know. To me, those are headed
towards some of the worst case scenarios where it's like,
it's stuff that you can control is one thing, but
when it's out of your control and you literally can

(37:52):
the minute it happens, you feel helpless and hopeless almost,
that to me is headed towards worst case, worse things
that can happen.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, And.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
I think the worst case scenario is that the truth
is that it's an agenda that's working against us, right,
it's it's it's not on purpose, and worst cases, I mean,
what can we really do about that. There's not a
whole lot we can really do about when when others
have power over us that way, other than exiting the system.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Somehow, well, even even now, like in most cases, we
can't exit the system right exactly. So what we have
to do is we have to align our faith. Right.
We have to align our intention every day to do
the best we can with what we have, right, knowing

(38:46):
that it's it's it's now a glass half empty world, right,
knowing that we have to do the best with what
we have. We have to we what's that? I say
it all the time, and all of a sudden I
lost it. It's the quote from the The Great Depression,
Use it up, wait, wear it out, use it up,

(39:08):
wear it out, make it do or do without. We're
going to have to make it do yeah. Right, And
and it's very hard to be an optimist with that right.
We have to be apocaal optimists. We have to be prepparists.
I don't know how to make it. We have to

(39:30):
number one, first and foremost, align with God. Number two,
focus on the joys that we have while we have them,
because they're getting more and more infrequent and the trials
are getting more and more frequent.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Mm hmm, yep.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
I think I think that's huge. We're unfortunately we're down
to the hour here, but any last minute thoughts, guys, I.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Think as you were speaking there, Scott, it came to
my mind, is that being grateful that I can see
what's coming right being optimistic that I will be able
to see the next thing that's coming that's going to

(40:19):
be a detriment to me and my family. So that
that was my kind of my I guess my closing
thought if if I said that the way I wanted to,
I just felt, you know, some gratitude there that that
I am where I'm at right now. You know, I've
definitely been blessed to be able to take some measures

(40:40):
to be prepared.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
And be able to continue to do that for now.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, amen to that, dude.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
I think one just final thought before I close it out,
is that what's the worst that can happen in mortality
on the earth. When you have a view of eternity
and you have a view of Christ and Heaven, the
worst thing that can happen here is not that bad.
After all, you know, there are some horrible things that
can happen to people, and they are happening to people,

(41:09):
things that are evil at the deepest levels, things that
we haven't even talked about, and children that go through
some of those things in individuals and families that go
through those things.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
My heart goes out to you. But the reality is
that if.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
We spend time in the solution, we will find it.
And you know the old scripture asking you shall receive
knocking it shall be opened unto you is we just
got to start asking more questions and we started keep
knocking on those doors because at some point they'll be
opened and the solutions will come and God will provide
a way He always does and always will. And that

(41:43):
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Yourself, yourself a favor, save yourself some money, pick up
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we'll see you on the next one.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
See you next week.

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