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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What you know, alibiers. Welcome to another episode of Pretty
Lies and Alibis. I'm Gigi. It's Tuesday, October twenty first.
Hope you guys are having a good day so far.
Today's episode, we're going to go over a quick update
in the Corey Richins case, and then we're going to
go through some of the canteen items available for Donna
Adelson once she has settled into her forever home and
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can start getting canteen and things like that. A lot
of you inboxed and said, hey, I'm curious what's available
to Florida inmates. I typically will do this when I
cover a big case, and a lot of these things
are very specific to certain states or institutions. So I've
done some research and found a few things we could
talk about. But on the Corey Richins front, last week
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we went over the filing where Corey asked for a
reconsideration for bond. This was after the drug dealer changed
his story and said he only sold the housekeeper oxy
conton and not fentanyl. In their filing, the defense said
that if the state couldn't place fentanyl in Corey's hands,
then the state had no case. Well, the state responded
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and said that him changing his story doesn't meet the
threshold of a material change in circumstance. They say there's
still substantial evidence to support the aggravated murder charge, notwithstanding
the drug dealer's assertion. They gave a partial transcript from
twenty twenty three where the drug dealer, Robert Crozier, was
interviewed by the Summit County Sheriff's detectives. Crozier said, yeah,
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she knew what she was buying. He was asked, it
wasn't like she was asking for oxy codone or something
like that and got the fentinyl pills, and Crozier said, right.
In other words, she knew she was getting fentanyl. Detectives,
so she knew there was fentanyl in those pills, and
he replied absolutely. The filing goes on to say that
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mister Crozier's recent assertions that the pills he sold miss
Lauber contained only OxyContin does not withstand modest scrutiny. He
doesn't know the composition of the pills because, as the
defense often notes, they were never tested. He was a
low level street dealer who got the pills from an
unidentified source at a time when nearly every pill on
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the street contained some amount of fentanyl. They go on
to say, Ultimately, of course, mister Crozier's interview is corroborated
by the constellation of means, motive, and opportunity evidenced against Richins,
and the toxicology results showing Eric Richins died of fentanyl poisoning.
Mister Crozier's recent assertion does not amount to a material
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change in circumstance because it's not credible. They go on
to say, there's still substantial evidence capable of supporting a
jury finding that Corey is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt,
and also that a reasonable jury could consider his recent
assertion and still easily convict Corey. The defense also asked
for that exculpatory evidence to be given to them, but
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the state says they don't have any from that meeting
in Mark to give to the defense. That meeting that
they had with him in March, by the way, was
to prepare him to testify for the state. Two News
investigates talked to Corey's attorney, who said they believe Corey
is innocent and the rest will come out at trial.
Her trial still slated for February of next year, and
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I will keep an eye on the filings and if
anything is new, we will go over it. So we're
going to move back into prison life. And the prison
slang of the day is a beanslot. This is the
opening in the cell door where food is delivered. Our
food hack of the day is the prison cake recipe.
You crush up cookies, you pour some coca in there
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and shape that into a crust mix non dairy creamer
with hot cocoa and a little bit of water, and
that makes it taste kind of like nutella. Sometimes they
go fancy and will add candy and marshmallows on top
of that. I checked this morning. Donna is still at
the reception center and has not been placed in her
forever home just yet, but many think that she will
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end up at Lowell. This is in central Florida. It's
been described as hell on Earth by former inmates. A
lot of people have asked what about air conditioning. Well,
like three quarters of Florida prisons, that facility does not
have air conditioning, and it's said in the heat of summer,
temperatures can sort to over one hundred degrees inside the
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cell blocks. They do say air conditioning is available in
housing units that serve the most vulnerable inmate populations, which
includes those in the infirmary, mentally ill, pregnant, and geriatric.
One former inmate said you never stop sweating and also
heat rashes are a common problem. The FDC hired a
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firm to analyze how to most effectively solve infrastructure shortfalls
and just for HVAC alone, the estimated cost to modernize
Florida prisons would be five hundred and eighty two million
dollars at a minimum, So it's safe to say it
ain't happening anytime soon now. Lowell is widely regarded as
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the worst women's prison in Florida. They do have educational programs,
including getting college credits. They have vocational programs for cosmetology,
culinary arts, heavy equipment operating, landscape, turf management, manufacturing through
Polk State College. They have the dog Training and handler programs,
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Religious services as well as betterment programs like Alcoholics Anonymous
Dance to Be Free, an inmate wellness program, Mindfulness based
on stress reduction. Little late for Donna, but they have
a parenting class, art therapy, the Gavel Club, Thinking for
a Change, Women Helping Women and yoga for mail. Donna
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cannot contact anyone in another correctional facility unless authorized. Also,
she can't contact anybody who does not wish for her
to correspond with them, and she cannot communicate with a
miner whose parents or guardians do not consent. In a
facility audit report from April of this year, it says
the facility has not been over capacity in the last
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twelve months. On the first day of the audit, there
were two thy four hundred and eighty inmates detained there
in twenty seven different housing units. The age range of
the population is sixteen to ninety two years old. There
were five hundred and eighty nine full and part time
staff members. Two hundred and forty five inmates had physical disabilities,
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Forty inmates reported sexual abuse in the facility, and they
interviewed thirty two random inmates as part of their audit
and just to remind her, not every single woman in
this facility is a violent offender or a lifer. There
are people in here for nonviolent crimes who will eventually
rejoin society. And I think these programs are great, especially
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the vocational training. Do you give these women a chance
to have some skills under their belt when they are
back in society. But my prison contact said that you
can take somebody who comes in for a non violent
conviction and by the time they leave the paranoia the
way you have to play the game in prison, It
just changes who you are as a person, and that
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they are very different when they leave as opposed to
when they came in, just due to what they deal
with on a daily basis. So back to Donna. Do
you guys remember when she took the stand at one
of her hearings, and this was an attempt to get bond,
saying that she had been abused in jail, specifically in
the shower well. That's called a snitch, as we know,
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and my contact said that her reputation as a snitch
will follow her to prison. When someone high profile like
Donna comes in, people on the outside will fill in
inmates on the inside about things Donna's done if they
followed the case, and that will spread like wildfire among
the inmates. A snitch is one of the hardest labels
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to shake in prison, also in getting the inmates to
try and lie for her, like we saw with the
jailhouse informants who testified that will show inmates that Donna
is willing to put others at risk for her own
self gain. So both snitching and this will make a
lot of inmates very suspicious of her. Before she utters
a word to anybody, she'll just be seen as a
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big risk. So a lot of inmates are just going
to avoid all contact with her for self preservation. My
contact said this will be very obvious to Donna, and
it can make adjustment to prison even harder if you
feel very isolated, she said, But still it's likely she
will find a group that will take her in, and
a lot of times these friend groups mimic families. Everybody
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has their role. Obviously, Donna probably taken on that grandmother
role in the dynamic. She said, her best bet would
be to find a group of older women to hang with.
But even then, most of these older women have spent
more time incarcerated than out over the course of their lives,
and they're not your typical grandmothers, and Donna could find
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even groups of her peers. Being older women don't want
to associate with her. They've seen high profile people come
and go, and Donna is not going to be special
to them just because she is in their age range.
What about elderly in prison? As of twenty twenty two,
people fifty five and over make up nearly one in
six prisoners. By twenty thirty, is estimated as much as
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a third of the US prison population will be over
the age of fifty. The newest research I could find
was back in twenty twenty two, where Florida was one
of the top states for elderly inmates at over nineteen percent.
What is lacking at state prisons for elderly inmates? Accessible
showers and beds, dementia care and hospice services, and all
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of that puts the elderly at risk for injury or
premature death. Elderly prisoners are more likely to experience disabilities,
with cognitive impairments being twice as prevalent compared to their
peers in community settings, with fifteen percent of incarcerated individuals
over the age of fifty five reporting difficulty in one
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or more of these areas. What about Donna's options for
canteen items? I found the female canteen menu. I do
have to say Florida's prices seem a little more affordable
than some states for the most part, but still some
of this stuff is really overpriced. They do offer kosher
items through commissary, but we all know that Donna really
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is in a fan of kosher meals, and we can
go all the way back to the wedding of Dan
Markel and Wendy Adelson for proof of that. But what
are some things available to Donna through the commissary? Creola
drawing chalk three dollars and nineteen cents, colored pencils seven
ninety nine, a sketch pad eight dollars and forty six cents.
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Bottled water eighty five cents. Four ounces of instant coffee
eight dollars and nineteen cents. See, y'all, this is where
I would pity my family if they ever had to
put money on my books, because a drink coffee sun
up to sundown and four ounces of instant coffee at
eight nineteen might last me a day. Single packets of
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crystal light fifty one cents for nine cents. You can
get individual tea bags, four ounces of butterscotch candy two
dollars and thirty one cents. A cooling towel for those
hot summer months four dollars and sixty one cents. She
can sport a straw hat for nine dollars and thirty
one cents. Cooling shirts go for twelve dollars and nine cents,
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and all your different little packs of condiments are ten
cents in under four meals you can get beef goulash
for ten dollars and eighty cents, a turkey meal eleven
dollars and eleven cents. There are frozen meals they can
get like little pizzas cow zones for six dollars and
four cents. Pack of roll aids set you back three
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dollars and two cents. Common problem in prisons athletes feet.
You can get some cream for five dollars and forty
eight cents. Multi vitamins go for around fourteen dollars. Miscellaneous
items that she can order playing cards, coffee mugs, envelopes
are a quarter apiece, stamps thirty nine cents. She can
get a plastic mirror for three bucks, Sunglasses around four fifty,
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plastic sporks four cents apiece. Combination locks set you back
ten bucks, ramens seventy eight cents. A pack flip flops
four dollars and five cents. Now they don't have dental
floss in prisons anymore. Why is that somebody literally broke
out of prison using dental floss, But they do have flosloops.
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Those are four dollars and thirty six cents. I believe
those are made out of a rubber material. You can
get makeup in prison Cover Girl Foundation eight dollars eighty
two cents, and it's the same price for eyeshadow and lipstick.
Shampoo goes for around six bucks now. Shampoo is something
that a lot of inmates use to clean the insides
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of their cells because it's cheaper to buy than soap.
If Donna wants to curl her hair, she can get
a perm kit for eleven dollars and fifty six cents,
and a roll of toilet paper is a dollar fifteen.
Toothpaste gonna set you back five bucks for quarterly packages
right now, I wasn't able to find a specific website
that shows exactly what's available, but on the Department of
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Corrections website they do say there is a spending max
of one hundred and fifty dollars per quarter, and they
list some of the items you can get including food, drinks, electronics, games, glasses,
health and beauty, holiday items, kosher items, shoes, stationery, and watches.
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I did find one little snippet of some clothing options
that they have a poncho four dollars and thirty five cents.
A pair of shorts anywhere from twelve ninety five to
seventeen dollars and sixty five cents. A pack of socks
is going to cost you almost eleven bucks, or a
single pair around two. A pair of sweatpants sixteen dollars
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and forty five cents, and a sweatshirt fourteen dollars and
ninety five cents for standard and if you have thin
skin and you need something thicker, thirty one dollars and
ninety five cents for one heavyweight sweatshirt. I was able
to find an average meal's menu. It covered a whole month.
So what are some of the things she can expect
for breakfast? Cinnamon, brown sugar, oat meal, pancakes, fruit, coffee
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and syrup. Some of the variations are sausage, biscuits, coffee cake,
country meat and gravy, buttery grits, scrambled eggs, as well
as brand flake cereal. For lunch, chicken, barbecue, patty mash, potatoes,
cabbage and peas. Other variations include peanut, butter and jelly sandwiches,
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pasta salad, carrots, sloppy jos, dried beans, tangy barbecue turkey,
a buffalo chicken patty, or Southern barbecue for dinner, Italian
tomato sauce with pasta, chicken leg with herbs, yellow rice,
barbecue beans, taco skillet, a country patty, alfredo sauce and pasta,
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a beef and bean burrito, fiesta rice, pento beans, a
chicken pepper patty, and the menus do have alternatives for
religious diets. My contact in prison said that some women
will convert religions simply to get better food. There is
a program called Eye Care where you can send meals
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to inmates. Whether or not you can receive these meals
depends on where you're housed, if you've had they any
discipline issues, and they're only delivered certain days of the week.
It does say can take up to thirty days for
the meals to be delivered after being ordered. Some facilities
do allow for more than one item to be delivered.
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For example, you can get a triple bacon cheeseburger and
extreme boneless wings for thirty two dollars and ninety nine
cents if you're on YouTube, I have photos of this
from the website. Pepperoni Pizza and Wings twenty four dollars
and seventy nine cents. A double Angus cheeseburger and boneless
Wings pack twenty seven dollars and fifteen cents. Double cheeseburger
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and Pizza pack twenty six dollars and ninety nine cents.
Pepperoni Pizza and Wings twenty four dollars seventy nine cents,
Triple Bacon cheeseburger Deluxe read at twenty bucks. Wings and
waffle Fries twenty one dollars and forty nine cents. Cheese
steak and Wings twenty one dollars and seventy nine cents.
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If you'll I want only wings fourteen dollars and thirty
nine cents. A Buffalo Crispy Chicken sandwich eleven dollars and
sixty nine cents. Turkey wrap and Caesar salad red at
twenty bucks. Barbecue brisket Sandwich and a salad twenty three
ninety nine. Cheese pizza and cheese sticks eighteen ninety nine.
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You can add on tater tots for two dollars and
twenty nine cents onion rings for three ninety nine, waffle
fries for two ninety nine, and then a dollar ninety
nine for extra sauces. They do have pies like pumpkin,
French silk and chocolate that's around six dollars a slice.
As far as tablets, those cost one hundred and forty
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dollars and she will eventually be able to get a tablet.
Sometimes it's not immediate, sometimes they're not available, but it
will be similar, if not the same, as what she
had in jail. With educational content. She can rent movies, ebooks,
and audio books. There are games, she can send and
receive emails, photos, as well as thirty second videos. There
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are news apps, music apps, and AM and FM radio.
Video visits are two ninety five per minute and you
can only do a fifteen minute max session. Those tablets
do not have access to the Internet like you and
I have on our tablets on the outside. But I
have heard these can be jailbroken. So just a little
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look into some of the I guess you could call
it luxury items that you can get while you're incarcerated.
Now we know that Harvey spent over twelve thousand dollars
alone just to have phone conversations with Donna, so between
canteen and special meals, orderly packages, and a lot more
communication on the tablet. I hope Harvey still has some
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retirement money left after hiring multiple attorneys for their family
or Charlie, and for Donna. I'm keeping an eye for
when she is moved. We'll find out where she's gonna
end up, but most people think right there in Central Florida.
That is it for today. I hope you guys have
a good arrest of your evening and we will see
you soon.