December 3, 2025 • 9 mins
Quick update of the day 3 morning session - witnesses include Records custodian for Uber, Lyft, and JetBlue, the landlord of the home Brian and Ana lived in, Officer who took the initial missing persons report, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's you know? Alibiers. Welcome to another episode of Pretty
Lies and Alibis. I'm Gigi, good to have you here.
It's Wednesday, December three. Really quick recap for day three
of the Brian Walls trial. For the morning session, we'd
a lot of people testify who were just bringing in records.
But let's jump in back on the stand was Nicholas Garino.
He was still on cross. There was no indication that
(00:22):
Brian ever accessed an as I messages. The next line
of questioning have me shaking my head? What is Disposal
of dead bodies happened at six point thirty six am
on January first. There was another search regarding body disposal,
but the defense says there's no mention of murder. No
another search cool ways to be buried, no reference to murder. No.
(00:46):
Defense says the first time murder was introduced in the
searches was at eleven twenty eight am on January first,
which was six hours after the searches began, and the
search that included murder was right after search best way
to dispose of body parts quietly. The witness agrees there
was no evidence the user tried to destroy search history.
(01:08):
No the defense points out the first time divorce is
searched was on December twenty seventh, and the search term
was for Katie Holmes divorce, meaning the one to Tom Cruise.
The search is about the odor from a dead body.
Don't start until January third, the witness says. On January first,
he searched how long does the body start smelling? But
(01:29):
not about masking it, and the witness says no. On
redirect of all the devices you received on January sixth
by Brian, did you get the MacBook? And the witness
says no. The next witness was William Fully. He's with
the US Customs and Border Patrol. He inspects documents of
people traveling in and out of the US. They use
(01:50):
a law enforcement tool named texts that stores arrival and
departure records for the United States. The records are mainly
input by the airlines, and anybody coming in or out
of the US, as you know, would need to give
their passport. If someone has dual citizenship, the airline will
use the passport that the traveler provides. They bring in
Anna's records from January first, twenty twenty two to July
(02:14):
of this year, she was born April twelfth, nineteen eighty three.
The last time she left the US was on November
twenty third, twenty twenty two, returning on December seventh. That
was for the trip to Ireland and then to Serbia
to be with her mom. The next witness Sergeant Patrick
Reardon from the Cohasset Police Department. He is the canine handler.
(02:36):
His canine was named Einstein. On January fifth, they did
an area search in the morning. They worked the front,
left side, and the rear of the property. They didn't
have a track, so there was no definitive area of
where to start, so they let the dog essentially just
try to pick up a human odor. They show photos
of the areas the canine searched and they spent around
(02:57):
thirty minutes letting the dog sniff around, but nothing found.
They did not go in the backyard because Brian's dog
was there and it just wouldn't have worked. The next
witness Thomas Mineo from Jet Blue. He brought in records
of Anna's travel from December twenty fifth, twenty twenty two,
through January thirtieth of twenty twenty three. They talked about
(03:17):
some of her booked flights. She booked on December twentieth
for December twenty fifth that was from DC to Boston.
That flight was refunded. He also gave several dates throughout
the month of January. She had already booked travel for
coming home to Boston and going back to d C.
The next witness, Greg Lawrence. He was a patrol officer
back in January of twenty twenty three. On January fourth,
(03:41):
he responded to Brian's house for that well being check.
He was met by Brian at the door and that's
when Brian told him he wanted to file a missing
person report. He says his demeanor was very calm. That
interaction wasn't recorded, and believe it or not, Cohasset did
not have body cams at the time and they still don't.
Brian told the officer he had called Anna's work and
(04:02):
they had not heard from her. He said the last
time he saw was January first, and it was between
six and seven am before her flight back to DC,
and he said she took an uber. Brian told the
officer he tried calling and texting, as well as reaching
out to friends and co workers in the DC area.
He said they usually FaceTime frequently for her to be
(04:23):
able to see the kids. The officer filled out a
missing person's report, which would be entered into a system
to allow other agencies to access it. It had basic
things like her height, her weight, her appearance, and other
things that might help find her. Brian was the one
that provided the information, and they show that form on screen.
I'm not going to show it because it has her
(04:43):
social and some other sensitive information. One of the first
things they would then do is contact Jet Blue to
see if she boarded any flight. He went back to
the house around six thirty pm to do that recorded
interview with lead investigator Schmidt. The next few week, witnesses
were just bringing into records for lifter uber and confirming
(05:04):
we know she did not take a lift or an
uber to the airport. The next witness Michael Kenyon. He
is an officer with the Swampscott Police Department. On January ninth,
he was dispatched to Brian's mom's apartment complex. He was
called in to assist multiple agencies for the search of
that dumpster as well as the trash compactor. He then
(05:25):
escorted the caravan from the dumpster to a trash service
in PbD it's not Peabody. Everybody from there is pronouncing
it PbD. Kind of a tongue twister. The next witness,
Amy Waterman. She's a trooper with the Massachusetts State Police.
She's with the Violent Fugitive Apprehension Unit. She went to
Anna's home in DC with Lieutenant Lopes. They went to
(05:48):
search her home, which was a three story brick corner townhouse.
There were no cameras inside or outside the residence. There
were three smaller rooms that had kids, furniture, and clothes,
which was all very neatly arranged. They found nothing there,
but they did take some documents that seemed important. The
next witness Peter Capazzoli. He owns a used car dealership
(06:12):
and he also owns the home that Brian and Anna
lived in, starting in March of twenty twenty two. He
said initially they paid forty eight hundred dollars a month,
and then they signed a second lease of five thousand
dollars per month for another six months. Brian would bring
the monthly check, and then in between when he would
bring the check, he would see him five to six
(06:33):
times a month. Brian's mother's name was on that lease
and the home came partially furnished. He was on vacation
for New Years and got a call from Brian in
the late afternoon on January fourth. Brian asked if he
had security cameras at his auto sales business. The witness
said no because they were still in the building process.
Brian told him Anna was missing, and he told him
(06:55):
that Anna had left to go to the airport around
four or five in the morning. The witness mentioned a
building nearby that may have footage. They show a photo
of Anna on the floor in the living room land
on top of a green rug. I'm very curious if
perhaps Brian went and disposed of some things at that
used car dealership, but I guess we will never know,
(07:16):
because other than the evidence found at his mom's apartment complex,
they didn't find anything else. It had likely been incinerated
by the time police were aware she was missing. On
cross they ask if there's a large hole in the
ceiling that would not be considered regular wear and tear,
and Brian and Anna would be responsible. The witness said
if they did it, yes, but he would do normal
(07:38):
wear and tear repairs on the house, like a leaky faucet.
The last witness before lunch is Mark Salvagi. He's a
life insurance salesman. He knew Anna through Brian. Brian was
his client first beginning back in July of twenty twenty one.
He ended up in sold Anna to life insurance policies
a term policy which is good for a priest amount
(08:00):
of time. The duration of that policy was for twenty
years and worth a million dollars. The whole life insurance
policy was worth two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and
that last your whole life. It pays out one hundred
percent of the time, but it costs more. However, you
can access the cash value and use that as deferred savings.
(08:21):
Her term policy went into effect May of twenty twenty one,
and Brian was the beneficiary. He said she was in
excellent health, and this kind of triggered some back and forth.
The jury was sent out after the defense started questioning
her health rating. The witness didn't know what tests were
done to come to that conclusion. In the end, the
(08:41):
judge will not let the fact that her health was
deemed excellent to come in because they would need someone
medical to come in and verify that her health was
in fact excellent, and of course that's important to the
defense because they claim she just died in her sleep.
That is where we broke for lunch. So a short update,
and I will be updating a little later tonight, most
(09:02):
likely because I do have that wrestling match at the
high school for my daughter's boyfriend. But that is it
for now. I hope you guys have a good rest
of your afternoon and we will see you soon.
What's you know? Alibiers. Welcome to another episode of Pretty
Lies and Alibis. I'm Gigi, good to have you here.
It's Wednesday, December three. Really quick recap for day three
of the Brian Walls trial. For the morning session, we'd
a lot of people testify who were just bringing in records.
But let's jump in back on the stand was Nicholas Garino.
He was still on cross. There was no indication that
(00:22):
Brian ever accessed an as I messages. The next line
of questioning have me shaking my head? What is Disposal
of dead bodies happened at six point thirty six am
on January first. There was another search regarding body disposal,
but the defense says there's no mention of murder. No
another search cool ways to be buried, no reference to murder. No.
(00:46):
Defense says the first time murder was introduced in the
searches was at eleven twenty eight am on January first,
which was six hours after the searches began, and the
search that included murder was right after search best way
to dispose of body parts quietly. The witness agrees there
was no evidence the user tried to destroy search history.
(01:08):
No the defense points out the first time divorce is
searched was on December twenty seventh, and the search term
was for Katie Holmes divorce, meaning the one to Tom Cruise.
The search is about the odor from a dead body.
Don't start until January third, the witness says. On January first,
he searched how long does the body start smelling? But
(01:29):
not about masking it, and the witness says no. On
redirect of all the devices you received on January sixth
by Brian, did you get the MacBook? And the witness
says no. The next witness was William Fully. He's with
the US Customs and Border Patrol. He inspects documents of
people traveling in and out of the US. They use
(01:50):
a law enforcement tool named texts that stores arrival and
departure records for the United States. The records are mainly
input by the airlines, and anybody coming in or out
of the US, as you know, would need to give
their passport. If someone has dual citizenship, the airline will
use the passport that the traveler provides. They bring in
Anna's records from January first, twenty twenty two to July
(02:14):
of this year, she was born April twelfth, nineteen eighty three.
The last time she left the US was on November
twenty third, twenty twenty two, returning on December seventh. That
was for the trip to Ireland and then to Serbia
to be with her mom. The next witness Sergeant Patrick
Reardon from the Cohasset Police Department. He is the canine handler.
(02:36):
His canine was named Einstein. On January fifth, they did
an area search in the morning. They worked the front,
left side, and the rear of the property. They didn't
have a track, so there was no definitive area of
where to start, so they let the dog essentially just
try to pick up a human odor. They show photos
of the areas the canine searched and they spent around
(02:57):
thirty minutes letting the dog sniff around, but nothing found.
They did not go in the backyard because Brian's dog
was there and it just wouldn't have worked. The next
witness Thomas Mineo from Jet Blue. He brought in records
of Anna's travel from December twenty fifth, twenty twenty two,
through January thirtieth of twenty twenty three. They talked about
(03:17):
some of her booked flights. She booked on December twentieth
for December twenty fifth that was from DC to Boston.
That flight was refunded. He also gave several dates throughout
the month of January. She had already booked travel for
coming home to Boston and going back to d C.
The next witness, Greg Lawrence. He was a patrol officer
back in January of twenty twenty three. On January fourth,
(03:41):
he responded to Brian's house for that well being check.
He was met by Brian at the door and that's
when Brian told him he wanted to file a missing
person report. He says his demeanor was very calm. That
interaction wasn't recorded, and believe it or not, Cohasset did
not have body cams at the time and they still don't.
Brian told the officer he had called Anna's work and
(04:02):
they had not heard from her. He said the last
time he saw was January first, and it was between
six and seven am before her flight back to DC,
and he said she took an uber. Brian told the
officer he tried calling and texting, as well as reaching
out to friends and co workers in the DC area.
He said they usually FaceTime frequently for her to be
(04:23):
able to see the kids. The officer filled out a
missing person's report, which would be entered into a system
to allow other agencies to access it. It had basic
things like her height, her weight, her appearance, and other
things that might help find her. Brian was the one
that provided the information, and they show that form on screen.
I'm not going to show it because it has her
(04:43):
social and some other sensitive information. One of the first
things they would then do is contact Jet Blue to
see if she boarded any flight. He went back to
the house around six thirty pm to do that recorded
interview with lead investigator Schmidt. The next few week, witnesses
were just bringing into records for lifter uber and confirming
(05:04):
we know she did not take a lift or an
uber to the airport. The next witness Michael Kenyon. He
is an officer with the Swampscott Police Department. On January ninth,
he was dispatched to Brian's mom's apartment complex. He was
called in to assist multiple agencies for the search of
that dumpster as well as the trash compactor. He then
(05:25):
escorted the caravan from the dumpster to a trash service
in PbD it's not Peabody. Everybody from there is pronouncing
it PbD. Kind of a tongue twister. The next witness,
Amy Waterman. She's a trooper with the Massachusetts State Police.
She's with the Violent Fugitive Apprehension Unit. She went to
Anna's home in DC with Lieutenant Lopes. They went to
(05:48):
search her home, which was a three story brick corner townhouse.
There were no cameras inside or outside the residence. There
were three smaller rooms that had kids, furniture, and clothes,
which was all very neatly arranged. They found nothing there,
but they did take some documents that seemed important. The
next witness Peter Capazzoli. He owns a used car dealership
(06:12):
and he also owns the home that Brian and Anna
lived in, starting in March of twenty twenty two. He
said initially they paid forty eight hundred dollars a month,
and then they signed a second lease of five thousand
dollars per month for another six months. Brian would bring
the monthly check, and then in between when he would
bring the check, he would see him five to six
(06:33):
times a month. Brian's mother's name was on that lease
and the home came partially furnished. He was on vacation
for New Years and got a call from Brian in
the late afternoon on January fourth. Brian asked if he
had security cameras at his auto sales business. The witness
said no because they were still in the building process.
Brian told him Anna was missing, and he told him
(06:55):
that Anna had left to go to the airport around
four or five in the morning. The witness mentioned a
building nearby that may have footage. They show a photo
of Anna on the floor in the living room land
on top of a green rug. I'm very curious if
perhaps Brian went and disposed of some things at that
used car dealership, but I guess we will never know,
(07:16):
because other than the evidence found at his mom's apartment complex,
they didn't find anything else. It had likely been incinerated
by the time police were aware she was missing. On
cross they ask if there's a large hole in the
ceiling that would not be considered regular wear and tear,
and Brian and Anna would be responsible. The witness said
if they did it, yes, but he would do normal
(07:38):
wear and tear repairs on the house, like a leaky faucet.
The last witness before lunch is Mark Salvagi. He's a
life insurance salesman. He knew Anna through Brian. Brian was
his client first beginning back in July of twenty twenty one.
He ended up in sold Anna to life insurance policies
a term policy which is good for a priest amount
(08:00):
of time. The duration of that policy was for twenty
years and worth a million dollars. The whole life insurance
policy was worth two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and
that last your whole life. It pays out one hundred
percent of the time, but it costs more. However, you
can access the cash value and use that as deferred savings.
(08:21):
Her term policy went into effect May of twenty twenty one,
and Brian was the beneficiary. He said she was in
excellent health, and this kind of triggered some back and forth.
The jury was sent out after the defense started questioning
her health rating. The witness didn't know what tests were
done to come to that conclusion. In the end, the
(08:41):
judge will not let the fact that her health was
deemed excellent to come in because they would need someone
medical to come in and verify that her health was
in fact excellent, and of course that's important to the
defense because they claim she just died in her sleep.
That is where we broke for lunch. So a short update,
and I will be updating a little later tonight, most
(09:02):
likely because I do have that wrestling match at the
high school for my daughter's boyfriend. But that is it
for now. I hope you guys have a good rest
of your afternoon and we will see you soon.
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