December 12, 2025 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What you know, Alibier's Welcome to another episode of Pretty
Lies and Alibis. I'm Jigi. Good to have you here.
It's Friday, December twelfth. We're going to go over closings
in the Brian Walsh trial and I am on Verdict Watch.
So what I'll do is when I hear there's a verdict,
I will announce it on a YouTube short So subscribe
if you haven't already, and be sure to hit those
(00:21):
notifications if you want an update of when there's a
verdict or a jury question or whatever may happen today.
So let's jump into closings. The defense goes first and
says that Brian was a loving father and husband. He
searched for the unspeakable on the Internet and disposed of
the body of the woman he adored. The Commonwealth suggests
(00:42):
it was an affair, but there's no proof Brian knew
anything about an affair between the woman he loved and
will Fasto money. The second reason, the government suggests, but
there were sales of properties. They were trying to protect
the assets for the benefit of their whole family, including
their three children. Is the refusal to consider prison for
a terrible mistake. He made a case that began in
(01:04):
twenty eighteen. There's no proof of that. Who wants to
go to prison, but it was on the table and
he had to face that. What would cause a loving
father and husband to do the things you've heard about?
Could it be sudden or unexpected or unbelievable, something a
medical examiner would understand and have knowledge of, but not Brian,
(01:24):
something that defies logic when it happens, the unexpected death.
How do we know he was a loving father and husband,
Jim Mootlou said, So we know from the witness from KinderCare.
She said he would show up interested in the kid's progress,
and Anna trusted him with their three kids. Twenty four
to seven. The Commonwealth must prove beyond a reasonable doubt
(01:45):
of killing a curb but there's no proof. There is
evidence he lied to police, made those searches on the internet,
and he disposed of her body, but no evidence he
killed her and no evidence he planned to harm her.
There cherry picking thousands of points a day and asking
you to think about it, but not telling you why
you should think about it. There was no blood or
(02:06):
DNA evidence on the knife found in the kitchen. You
can't base your verdict on sympathy for Anna. They keep
talking about the hole in the ceiling like it was
something significant. There's nothing significant. It looks like someone that
fell through the ceiling. As the evidence developed, their witness
said he contacted Brian because there was a promotion going on.
(02:27):
Brian didn't call and ask him to come fix this
suspicious hole. Two hundred pages of search history from Brian's
foam searches for MGM and nothing else. They're throwing out
pieces of evidence. And why was one witness asked to
tell you about a song title. The searches on the
laptop began six hours after Anna died, and he initially
searched about disposing of a body. And if you don't
(02:49):
get the result, you changed the wording. He never killed her.
He lied about what happened to Anna out of fear
nobody would believe him. But not one record, not one page,
refers to any plan or intent. There's no evidence he
committed premeditative murder. By the words in the title of
a movie. You're being asked if he committed premeditative murder
(03:10):
with the intent to kill the woman he loved. I
asked the investigator what was in the bags in the basement,
and he said, pieces of rug. What does that tell
you about the thinking process of a man who planned
to commit murder to let police walk in the basement
and use his boot and feel was inside the bag
and said it felt like a piece of rug. The
(03:30):
rug is an evidence and it has blood on it.
Think about that when you wonder if Brian planned anything. No,
did he kill Anna? No, the evidence doesn't support a
finding of premeditative murder based on the evidence. When asked
about the messages on his phone, he says, I messenger,
and they seize that evidence, saying he saw text between
(03:51):
Anna and Fasto. Those texts are in evidence, and why
would they want you to believe that because some of
the injuries in those texts were upsetting. May enrage a
husband to read what was going on in those texts,
But ask yourself, as you look at them, you could
say they might put someone in a rage. But there's
no evidence he saw the text because he was trying
(04:13):
to say I'm messenger. There's no such thing as I messenger.
There's Facebook messenger, but no evidence in the digital data
that he ever saw anything between Anna and Fasto. Why
is it On New Year's Eve, Anna is taking photos
and says in Brian's presence less than one to will.
Was there any evidence he reacted. No, they celebrated another
(04:35):
two hours. He knew his wife had a crush on
Fasto and he wasn't even jealous. Anna told her friend
Elisa that that she wished Brian was more jealous. Consider
that for the motive of a killing that did not
occur over an affair, there's no evidence of that. Unexpected
deaths happen in young and old in athletes. There was
(04:57):
eleven minutes of searching for a divorce in seven days.
It came up in the context of protecting assets after
selling one of their properties. Mister Muttloe said they were
planning for their future. Brian loved Anna and their children
until the unexpected event happened. Imagine you're so in love,
you support your wife to get a job in DC,
(05:18):
you put assets in her name to protect her because
of your federal case. Alyssa testified Anna was upset, and
no doubt she was. Why was she upset? Maybe the
affair wasn't going well. She was living apart from her kids,
she had another life. She went to Dublin where's the
evidence Brian knew about that trip. There's none. That conversation
(05:40):
three days before she disappears. I don't know if I
love him, even though she was stressed. Families do make
it through. They signed the champagne bottle on New Year's Eve,
looking forward to the future, and she wrote on the box,
what a year and yet we are still here. Brian
loved his wife and there's no evidence of pre meditae murder.
(06:01):
Brian Walsh is not guilty and that was it for
the defense and it was time for the Commonwealth. Anna
is dead because Brian murdered her. They point straight to
him and says he intended her death. She wasn't missing,
She didn't leave in an uber to Logan Airport. There
was no work emergency. She didn't say bye to her son.
(06:21):
That was the story Brian's old people, and she hasn't
been seen since January first by anyone. Brian was the
only adult after Jim left at one thirty am on
New Year's Day. After he left, Anna was home alone
with Brian and their three sons, aged two, four, and six.
He caused her death and the evidence shows you she
(06:43):
did not die of natural causes. She died a violent death.
You have the photo of Anna lying on the rug
that was found with blood on it from the dumpster
near his mom's place. They found a piece of her
necklace embedded in the rug. It didn't break on its own.
The rest of that necklace is missing. The slippers had
(07:03):
both Brian and Anna's DNA on there, the bathrobe and
two bloody white towels with Anna's DNA. Why did he
throw it out because it had her DNA on it?
He was researching cleaning, had to clean blood from a
wood floor, cleaned DNA off a knife. He had a
cut on his thumb January ninth. One of his first
(07:24):
stops on January first was to buy antibiotic ointment and
band aids. He went to the liquor store and was
on camera putting a bag in the dumpster. That store
was closed. January second, he went to home Goods to
buy a new rug to cover the hardwood floor, days
before the forensic scientist got to the home and knew
the rug had been replaced. Anna was in shape. In
(07:47):
an interview with investigators, Brian said she was a sturdy
Serbian woman. The life insurance company had her undergo test
to ensure her health and her exercise instructor told you
she took this class on the morning of New Year's Eve.
She had a home gym in DC. It makes no
sense for a thirty nine year old woman to die
suddenly and without a body. A medical examiner cannot tell
(08:11):
you her cause of death because Brian got rid of
her body. He wanted nobody to find her body to
know how she died, so he bought cutting tools and
cut up her body and threw her into dumpsters. He
was hiding her body. He intended to kill her. He
needed her dead. This was a marriage in crisis, and
(08:32):
she was close to a breaking point. For his federal case,
he owed restitution, but he had no assets. He told
investigators he only made fifty to sixty thousand dollars that year.
His mom signed the lease for the home and was
paying their rent. Meanwhile, Anna was beginning to thrive. She
was making close to three hundred thousand a year. She
got ready for her kids in d C. But the
(08:55):
defendant needed the kids with him as it helped him
to avoid prison, and the separation was taking a toll.
On On wanted the kids with her, and she began
a relationship with Fasto. It got worse when she went
to Serbia to take care of her mom. Anna went
to Dublin with Fasto and she purchased that on a
credit card. Brian monitored the search history shows him looking
(09:17):
at the Chase account. He told police she had a
layover in Frankfurt. It's on the credit card statement. He
was angry she missed Thanksgiving and mentioned it repeatedly when
talking to investigators. Honor returned in December and only spent
one day in Cohasset. She was supposed to come home
Christmas morning. She missed her flight and had to drive up.
Brian told police there was an argument. They play a
(09:40):
clip from this interview and then the Commonwealth says, what
did you do? On Christmas Day? He looked up Will Fasto,
the man his wife had just spent the night with.
He was losing Anna. December twenty seventh, Brian was looking
up best strategies to divorce for a man in DC
divorce laws. This wasn't to protect his assets. That wasn't
the search. Everything was in Anna's name. He had nothing
(10:04):
without Anna. On December twenty ninth, Anna spoke to Jim
Mootlou and said she was upset about travel, being away
from the kids, and sad about his federal case. It
was getting to be too much. She went out with
her friend Alyssa and broke down. It was supposed to
be a fun night, but instead she broke down and
told Melissa Brian needed to take responsibility for the federal
(10:26):
case and go to prison, and they had not been
intimate in a year. On A questioned if she could
just take the kids. She established a separate household. She
said she was falling out of love with Brian. Brian
was looking up the MAZA building and the FBI raid,
something that happened in twenty twenty two when Anna first
started working there. He brought it up in his interviews
(10:48):
when he lied about Anna having to leave for a
work emergency. He was going to lose Anna and when
he did, he would lose his freedom and Anna would
be in DC with the kids. He convinced Anna into
thinking things were okay. They joked about the Porsche, but
he didn't want her to realize he was aware of
the relationship between her and Fasto. December thirty first, Brian
(11:08):
said he couldn't find his phone. This allowed him to
be unavailable for two days and carry out his plan
and show the police when he reports on a missing
and not have them question why he did not contact
Anna earlier. He also shopped with a list at Low's.
He told Jim New Year's Eve his phone was lost.
Anna was texting Fasto that night and she was alive
(11:29):
when Jim left. Brian murdered her that morning, and that's
why the internet history shows best way to dispose of
a body? Is it better to throw away crime scene
clothes or wash them? Can you be charged with murder
without a body? His MacBook was sinking with his son's iPad.
His demeanor changed when investigators told him the searches were
(11:51):
on the iPad. He knew he was caught. He involved
a six year old when he had him say he
saw his mom that morning before she left, but there's
no way he could have. Brian had already killed her.
January fifth, in an interview, he involved his four year
old when he said his son hit his phone. He
made reservations for dinner and told investigators he and I
(12:12):
had no plans for New Year's Day. He would be
in violation of his federal probation if he went. He
deleted a message on January first, at seven fifty nine am.
This is when the iPhone was unlocked and supposed to
be missing. It was unlocked four times and also plugged
in on January first. Look at the online searches. You
won't see any searches about unexpected death. He set the
(12:35):
basement up with plastic sheeting in a taiek suit and
dismembered his wife. He searched hacksaw, the best tool for dismembering.
Then he got rid of her body, her belongings, and
the things he told investigators she left with on January first.
He couldn't let her body be found because she did
not die of natural causes. Look at him on surveillance.
He's calm. He had planned. He went to stores an
(12:58):
hour away when there were stars closer to his home.
He wore gloves in the store and had a list
in peyton cash. Does this show panic or fear? He
bought ammonia and peroxide in baking soda. No wonder, the
house was so clean and the Commonwealth ends with the
photo of Anna and Jim and her son on New
Year's Eve, saying, please do not allow the self serving
(13:21):
act of this defendant to get away with murder. So
that was it for closings and we are on Verdict
watch again. Go subscribe to YouTube. Hit those notifications if
you want to know immediately when there's any news. But
that's it for now. Hope you guys have a good
rest of your afternoon and we will see soon
What you know, Alibier's Welcome to another episode of Pretty
Lies and Alibis. I'm Jigi. Good to have you here.
It's Friday, December twelfth. We're going to go over closings
in the Brian Walsh trial and I am on Verdict Watch.
So what I'll do is when I hear there's a verdict,
I will announce it on a YouTube short So subscribe
if you haven't already, and be sure to hit those
(00:21):
notifications if you want an update of when there's a
verdict or a jury question or whatever may happen today.
So let's jump into closings. The defense goes first and
says that Brian was a loving father and husband. He
searched for the unspeakable on the Internet and disposed of
the body of the woman he adored. The Commonwealth suggests
(00:42):
it was an affair, but there's no proof Brian knew
anything about an affair between the woman he loved and
will Fasto money. The second reason, the government suggests, but
there were sales of properties. They were trying to protect
the assets for the benefit of their whole family, including
their three children. Is the refusal to consider prison for
a terrible mistake. He made a case that began in
(01:04):
twenty eighteen. There's no proof of that. Who wants to
go to prison, but it was on the table and
he had to face that. What would cause a loving
father and husband to do the things you've heard about?
Could it be sudden or unexpected or unbelievable, something a
medical examiner would understand and have knowledge of, but not Brian,
(01:24):
something that defies logic when it happens, the unexpected death.
How do we know he was a loving father and husband,
Jim Mootlou said, So we know from the witness from KinderCare.
She said he would show up interested in the kid's progress,
and Anna trusted him with their three kids. Twenty four
to seven. The Commonwealth must prove beyond a reasonable doubt
(01:45):
of killing a curb but there's no proof. There is
evidence he lied to police, made those searches on the internet,
and he disposed of her body, but no evidence he
killed her and no evidence he planned to harm her.
There cherry picking thousands of points a day and asking
you to think about it, but not telling you why
you should think about it. There was no blood or
(02:06):
DNA evidence on the knife found in the kitchen. You
can't base your verdict on sympathy for Anna. They keep
talking about the hole in the ceiling like it was
something significant. There's nothing significant. It looks like someone that
fell through the ceiling. As the evidence developed, their witness
said he contacted Brian because there was a promotion going on.
(02:27):
Brian didn't call and ask him to come fix this
suspicious hole. Two hundred pages of search history from Brian's
foam searches for MGM and nothing else. They're throwing out
pieces of evidence. And why was one witness asked to
tell you about a song title. The searches on the
laptop began six hours after Anna died, and he initially
searched about disposing of a body. And if you don't
(02:49):
get the result, you changed the wording. He never killed her.
He lied about what happened to Anna out of fear
nobody would believe him. But not one record, not one page,
refers to any plan or intent. There's no evidence he
committed premeditative murder. By the words in the title of
a movie. You're being asked if he committed premeditative murder
(03:10):
with the intent to kill the woman he loved. I
asked the investigator what was in the bags in the basement,
and he said, pieces of rug. What does that tell
you about the thinking process of a man who planned
to commit murder to let police walk in the basement
and use his boot and feel was inside the bag
and said it felt like a piece of rug. The
(03:30):
rug is an evidence and it has blood on it.
Think about that when you wonder if Brian planned anything. No,
did he kill Anna? No, the evidence doesn't support a
finding of premeditative murder based on the evidence. When asked
about the messages on his phone, he says, I messenger,
and they seize that evidence, saying he saw text between
(03:51):
Anna and Fasto. Those texts are in evidence, and why
would they want you to believe that because some of
the injuries in those texts were upsetting. May enrage a
husband to read what was going on in those texts,
But ask yourself, as you look at them, you could
say they might put someone in a rage. But there's
no evidence he saw the text because he was trying
(04:13):
to say I'm messenger. There's no such thing as I messenger.
There's Facebook messenger, but no evidence in the digital data
that he ever saw anything between Anna and Fasto. Why
is it On New Year's Eve, Anna is taking photos
and says in Brian's presence less than one to will.
Was there any evidence he reacted. No, they celebrated another
(04:35):
two hours. He knew his wife had a crush on
Fasto and he wasn't even jealous. Anna told her friend
Elisa that that she wished Brian was more jealous. Consider
that for the motive of a killing that did not
occur over an affair, there's no evidence of that. Unexpected
deaths happen in young and old in athletes. There was
(04:57):
eleven minutes of searching for a divorce in seven days.
It came up in the context of protecting assets after
selling one of their properties. Mister Muttloe said they were
planning for their future. Brian loved Anna and their children
until the unexpected event happened. Imagine you're so in love,
you support your wife to get a job in DC,
(05:18):
you put assets in her name to protect her because
of your federal case. Alyssa testified Anna was upset, and
no doubt she was. Why was she upset? Maybe the
affair wasn't going well. She was living apart from her kids,
she had another life. She went to Dublin where's the
evidence Brian knew about that trip. There's none. That conversation
(05:40):
three days before she disappears. I don't know if I
love him, even though she was stressed. Families do make
it through. They signed the champagne bottle on New Year's Eve,
looking forward to the future, and she wrote on the box,
what a year and yet we are still here. Brian
loved his wife and there's no evidence of pre meditae murder.
(06:01):
Brian Walsh is not guilty and that was it for
the defense and it was time for the Commonwealth. Anna
is dead because Brian murdered her. They point straight to
him and says he intended her death. She wasn't missing,
She didn't leave in an uber to Logan Airport. There
was no work emergency. She didn't say bye to her son.
(06:21):
That was the story Brian's old people, and she hasn't
been seen since January first by anyone. Brian was the
only adult after Jim left at one thirty am on
New Year's Day. After he left, Anna was home alone
with Brian and their three sons, aged two, four, and six.
He caused her death and the evidence shows you she
(06:43):
did not die of natural causes. She died a violent death.
You have the photo of Anna lying on the rug
that was found with blood on it from the dumpster
near his mom's place. They found a piece of her
necklace embedded in the rug. It didn't break on its own.
The rest of that necklace is missing. The slippers had
(07:03):
both Brian and Anna's DNA on there, the bathrobe and
two bloody white towels with Anna's DNA. Why did he
throw it out because it had her DNA on it?
He was researching cleaning, had to clean blood from a
wood floor, cleaned DNA off a knife. He had a
cut on his thumb January ninth. One of his first
(07:24):
stops on January first was to buy antibiotic ointment and
band aids. He went to the liquor store and was
on camera putting a bag in the dumpster. That store
was closed. January second, he went to home Goods to
buy a new rug to cover the hardwood floor, days
before the forensic scientist got to the home and knew
the rug had been replaced. Anna was in shape. In
(07:47):
an interview with investigators, Brian said she was a sturdy
Serbian woman. The life insurance company had her undergo test
to ensure her health and her exercise instructor told you
she took this class on the morning of New Year's Eve.
She had a home gym in DC. It makes no
sense for a thirty nine year old woman to die
suddenly and without a body. A medical examiner cannot tell
(08:11):
you her cause of death because Brian got rid of
her body. He wanted nobody to find her body to
know how she died, so he bought cutting tools and
cut up her body and threw her into dumpsters. He
was hiding her body. He intended to kill her. He
needed her dead. This was a marriage in crisis, and
(08:32):
she was close to a breaking point. For his federal case,
he owed restitution, but he had no assets. He told
investigators he only made fifty to sixty thousand dollars that year.
His mom signed the lease for the home and was
paying their rent. Meanwhile, Anna was beginning to thrive. She
was making close to three hundred thousand a year. She
got ready for her kids in d C. But the
(08:55):
defendant needed the kids with him as it helped him
to avoid prison, and the separation was taking a toll.
On On wanted the kids with her, and she began
a relationship with Fasto. It got worse when she went
to Serbia to take care of her mom. Anna went
to Dublin with Fasto and she purchased that on a
credit card. Brian monitored the search history shows him looking
(09:17):
at the Chase account. He told police she had a
layover in Frankfurt. It's on the credit card statement. He
was angry she missed Thanksgiving and mentioned it repeatedly when
talking to investigators. Honor returned in December and only spent
one day in Cohasset. She was supposed to come home
Christmas morning. She missed her flight and had to drive up.
Brian told police there was an argument. They play a
(09:40):
clip from this interview and then the Commonwealth says, what
did you do? On Christmas Day? He looked up Will Fasto,
the man his wife had just spent the night with.
He was losing Anna. December twenty seventh, Brian was looking
up best strategies to divorce for a man in DC
divorce laws. This wasn't to protect his assets. That wasn't
the search. Everything was in Anna's name. He had nothing
(10:04):
without Anna. On December twenty ninth, Anna spoke to Jim
Mootlou and said she was upset about travel, being away
from the kids, and sad about his federal case. It
was getting to be too much. She went out with
her friend Alyssa and broke down. It was supposed to
be a fun night, but instead she broke down and
told Melissa Brian needed to take responsibility for the federal
(10:26):
case and go to prison, and they had not been
intimate in a year. On A questioned if she could
just take the kids. She established a separate household. She
said she was falling out of love with Brian. Brian
was looking up the MAZA building and the FBI raid,
something that happened in twenty twenty two when Anna first
started working there. He brought it up in his interviews
(10:48):
when he lied about Anna having to leave for a
work emergency. He was going to lose Anna and when
he did, he would lose his freedom and Anna would
be in DC with the kids. He convinced Anna into
thinking things were okay. They joked about the Porsche, but
he didn't want her to realize he was aware of
the relationship between her and Fasto. December thirty first, Brian
(11:08):
said he couldn't find his phone. This allowed him to
be unavailable for two days and carry out his plan
and show the police when he reports on a missing
and not have them question why he did not contact
Anna earlier. He also shopped with a list at Low's.
He told Jim New Year's Eve his phone was lost.
Anna was texting Fasto that night and she was alive
(11:29):
when Jim left. Brian murdered her that morning, and that's
why the internet history shows best way to dispose of
a body? Is it better to throw away crime scene
clothes or wash them? Can you be charged with murder
without a body? His MacBook was sinking with his son's iPad.
His demeanor changed when investigators told him the searches were
(11:51):
on the iPad. He knew he was caught. He involved
a six year old when he had him say he
saw his mom that morning before she left, but there's
no way he could have. Brian had already killed her.
January fifth, in an interview, he involved his four year
old when he said his son hit his phone. He
made reservations for dinner and told investigators he and I
(12:12):
had no plans for New Year's Day. He would be
in violation of his federal probation if he went. He
deleted a message on January first, at seven fifty nine am.
This is when the iPhone was unlocked and supposed to
be missing. It was unlocked four times and also plugged
in on January first. Look at the online searches. You
won't see any searches about unexpected death. He set the
(12:35):
basement up with plastic sheeting in a taiek suit and
dismembered his wife. He searched hacksaw, the best tool for dismembering.
Then he got rid of her body, her belongings, and
the things he told investigators she left with on January first.
He couldn't let her body be found because she did
not die of natural causes. Look at him on surveillance.
He's calm. He had planned. He went to stores an
(12:58):
hour away when there were stars closer to his home.
He wore gloves in the store and had a list
in peyton cash. Does this show panic or fear? He
bought ammonia and peroxide in baking soda. No wonder, the
house was so clean and the Commonwealth ends with the
photo of Anna and Jim and her son on New
Year's Eve, saying, please do not allow the self serving
(13:21):
act of this defendant to get away with murder. So
that was it for closings and we are on Verdict
watch again. Go subscribe to YouTube. Hit those notifications if
you want to know immediately when there's any news. But
that's it for now. Hope you guys have a good
rest of your afternoon and we will see soon
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