LSD - Frog Brigade Tipitina's 2003 w/ Toaster

At long last, we welcome the legendary Toaster to Primus Tracks. Toaster is a prolific Primus/Les taper who started toasterland.com over 20 years ago as a respository for show recordings and a way to catalog performances for the masses. It's proved to be a priceless resource to hardcore fans, and we reference it regularly on the podcast. 

Toaster joins to share his experience at Tipitina's in New Orleans 2003, where the Frog Brigade played for 3.5 hours, ending at 4:30am. This is a favorite of Frankie's, and these two geek out on the Frog Brigade era as we samples numerous portions of this legendary show that features numerous guests, song teases and partials, and bastardized versions of some classics. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Josh Freaky with a couple.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Of dump shits. Hello Primates, you found Primus Tracks. Congratulations.
This is a special episode of Primus Tracts. Now, I'm

(00:24):
saying that as if they're not all specialist's super special.
It all starts with me. I make it special. My
name is Joshua, Mother's Crime Distracts. He is the thirty
nine flour of Primus Tracts Towers and also makes it
the podcast special Priver stuff. He Josh, welcome back yet again,

(00:45):
Frankie not jumped out of any of these over year's congratulations.
By the way, do the windows on the thirty ninth
floor of Primus Tracks Towers open?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
They do?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
That's that's risky. I don't know who chose that design.
There's there's there's no danger today because we have a very.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Special episode today.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
We are talking about a legendary show that we need
to dissect and so I'm handing out tabs to everybody.
And this is one of the longest shows on record
in the less Claypool Primus history. Well, that is a
lot of heavy lifting. So we have brought in a
heavy who can do the heavy lifting for us. You

(01:24):
know him from his wonderful site toasterland dot com. And
if you like streaming Primus shows and recordings audience recordings
of Primus shows, he's your friend as well as ours.
Toaster Welcome to Primus tracks. Thank you for having me,
oh Man, long overdue. As Frankie said earlier, we've crossed
paths numerous times over the years, and it just felt

(01:48):
right to bring in for this LSD discussion for the
Froud Brigade May four, two thousand and three, Tipotinas in
New Orleans, Louisiana. As I understand it, you were there.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
I was there and for all three and a half.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Hours of it, and it went pretty late, I understand.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
I believe it went from about one till four thirty
in the morning, if I remember correctly.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
How did you get back home Toaster?

Speaker 4 (02:15):
I drove straight back after the show ended. I was
newly employed at my current job and I had no
vacation time, so we just hauled it back. And I
don't even think I had to take off like more
than one day to do it.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
And to clarify, when you say you drove home, you
didn't drive to the other side of New Orleans. You
didn't even drive to the other side of the state.
You drove to New York State.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Yeah, back to Western New York, probably eighteen twenty hours.
I don't remember what it took.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
But you were on your feet for this frobrigade show,
recording it, enjoying it, and then at four thirty in
the morning it ends you go to your vehicle and
start an eighteen hour drive home.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Essentially, Yes, that's what happened, and that's not counting the
Seat two three ween show the night before at the
State Palace three ter and then the late night buckethead
show at Howland Wolf then also went from like two
to four in the morning, so there was very little
sleep being had.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
But how are you even a live Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
There was three of us and we drove straight through
and back.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
The energy of youth is a hell of a thing,
it is.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
I could not pull off that kind of feet again.
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I have to say that early aughts were that time
for me as well. We're about the same age, I think,
and it when I see a date from the early aughts,
I think, oh, yeah, it stayed up all night that
night and did a bunch of crazy, stupid things and
then went to work the next morning like it was nothing.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, yep, I have plenty of those stories.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
For those of you who are unfamiliar with toaster pause
this podcast, go over to toasterland dot com. You probably
won't come back to this episode because you're going to
find all kinds of shows to stream. Of course, it's
not just for streaming recordings of Primus and less clappool shows.
It's a repository man of all kinds of great information.

(04:15):
And I know I've thanked you over the years, but
how about a public thank you for what you've put
together over there. It's massive.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Thank you for endless, endless days of entertainment toaster and
for bringing to light recordings that otherwise would never have heard.
I was just blown away the day I discovered the site,
and I just started streaming live versions of the most
obscure songs I could imagine that never made it to

(04:45):
official releases. And I've never looked back. Toasties saved all
my favorites, and I'm there daily.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Thank you very much, Thank you very much. I have
now been told multiple times recently that so and so
grew up on Toasterland. My dad burned me CDs from Toasterland.
It's kind of surreal to think it's been around as
long as it has. I think it's been around with
twenty three or twenty four years at this point, so

(05:15):
I think I added like the streaming aspect of it,
and like the late two thousand's, early twenty tens or so,
and then it's just kind of been running itself. I
definitely could not program it again if I tried to today,
so my coding skills are very rusty at this point,
but it still works, so I'll continue to update it

(05:37):
all right.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Long, speaking of long overdue, I registered today and finally
added my statistics.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Nice, what are you up to?

Speaker 1 (05:47):
So if I look at my statistics, give me one second?

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Okay, So you've seen twenty shows. Very respectable.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, not bad for a guy that has to travel
internationally to see most of them.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Right.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
There are plenty of things on this list that I'm
very proud of, like Frankenstein, hats Off, and the Electric
Funeral and most recently Antipop.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
I mean definitely caught a good assortment there and the
Claypool Goald that I saw you guys at that was
incredible for setless or song statistic purposes.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
So I did have a good time adding those two
shows and then looking at the update going out right,
and so.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
I mean, so Soya told that to Liz because he
told us that Liz was kind of worried about the outcome.
But Soya said, fans collect songs as if they were
trading cards or baseball cards. So yeah, we were freaking
out with those set lists. When Liz himself asked me

(06:54):
what I thought about the show, I just said, dude,
rest in bones, period period.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, that actually wasn't less. That was me in a
less costume. I was just humoring frank.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Funny thing about that rest in Bones. I think after
that show more have been unearthed than were previously known
to have been played back in ninety seven. Since that
show happened that New Year's like, more tapes have come
out were like, hey, wait, they played this morning than
we originally thought. Yeah. I thought it was only like

(07:27):
a one verse thing in the middle of puppies, but no,
there was actually like six or seven.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah there was.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, there were a few fool ones and it's fantastic
that they they were unearthed, which reminds me that we
were standing around the venue on New Year's Eve Toaster
was hanging out with his pals, but he was immersing
his conversation and I was having a conversation with someone
else and I brought up camel Back Cinema and I said, yeah,

(07:55):
imagine if they pull out camel Back Cinema tonight, which
has only been played twice in the entire live history
of Primus. And then Toaster was like, where was his plate? Yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Showed me the tape. It showed me the tape, and
then you did, like a month later, you got it.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
So that's good. Uh, that's good taper talk.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
I like that. Give you the dates, give me the
give me the tape, give me the date. I want
to know, because a lot of that back like when
I started Toast, and that was like a lot of
the reason I started it was just to keep track
of like the tapes that were out there, because a
lot of them like had European date format and they
were getting miscategorized on people's tape list. So it was

(08:43):
kind of like, well, let's get like a proper dB
out there where we could actually track some of this stuff.
And uh, now it's turned into clete mayhem.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, is it?

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Something? I'm sure at the outset. It took a lot
of your time. I'm I'm sure it's streamlined now and
it's fairly easy to maintain.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah, there's not too much or to it from my
perspective to like update it and whatnot. It's just a
mysequel back end and I just add another row and
auto populate. It's like once a year I have to
go in there and just kind of edit the menu
to add another year if like this band happened to

(09:26):
perform that year or something. But very minimal updating. It's
more just scrutinizing the set list and making sure that
people aren't improperly like notating teases and stuff like that.
And there's a certain threshold where we'll call it a
tease versus like a partial.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Uh some Yeah, so if you get a few bars
of it, it's obviously a tease, right, But is there
is there a time cut off? So if it's like
forty five seconds of something, now it's a partial.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Probably something around forty five seconds to a minute, Like
I know, like when they Primates started originally doing like
poke it out rows, drink groundhogs, like I'd put that
as a tease and then once he added the verse.
I was like, okay, that's kind of a partial now,
and so like now you'll see it notated as a
partial because it's added the verse.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
The next the next.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Level toaster is when we include things like notations like.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
D m V. Less cheated on these performance.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
He did not perform the roof while he was singing.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
He had to concentrate too hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
like to go back. Does that happen in d MV.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
I have to go back and listen now the he
played a simplified one version of it on the Pork
Soda New Years But yeah, you were the arbiter. You don't.
You get to choose whether that is documented one way
or another. The the one that always stuck with me
was the Seas of Cheese because there's less doing it solo,

(11:03):
and then there's the Fromage version, and of course they've
done both over the years. So I know when I've
sent you set lists, I have delineated whether it was
the Fromage sees or regular seas, but I don't know
that you have it.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
I don't have it way, I don't have that catalog.
So when what was it two thousand and six? Fancy
when he started doing like too Many Puppies on banjo,
and I think there was like an American life on banjo,
like I started putting parenthesy banjo. So those get categorized
for song statistical purposes separately. And then.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
There are also the bizarro versions of Too Many Puppies
that he was doing in nineteen eight.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
That's what I was gonna say. There's there's too Many Puppies,
which is standard puppies. Then in ninety eight there's Rhino Puppies. Yeah, oh,
I name it Rhyan puppies, and then there's New Puppies,
which is like a twenty eleven or twelve. Like Jay,
they played some weird version of puppies like twice, but

(12:11):
I called that there's also.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
An upright there's an upright version of puppies. I think
it was when we played once.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Was that part of the yellow Sox stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
No, no, it was not yellow sock.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
It was actually a regular show, regular show, and they
did an upright Puppies. And that reminds me that there's
a really really strange performance of John the Fisherman on
the Night Break nineteen ninety. You know that night when
they were doing like Jerry was a race car driver,
not for the first time, but one of the first

(12:42):
times ever and fish On on the tune base prior
to the Rainbow. That night they did this really bizarre
version of John the Fisherman. You have to go back
and listen to that one.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Okay, Yeah, I don't remember that particular John. I remember
those early fish Ons without the outro.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, and Jerry without the break going straight from the
chorus into the guitar soul.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
I see why you don't delineate too much, because what
a pain, the pain.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
But like for the puppies, thing like that, those are
a distinct version that's like you like it and bastardizing
you like it. Like, there's definitely different. Like Duchess. There's
one Duchess that's on upright Charlotte, North Carolina at the
Variety something Variety played house something like that two thousand

(13:35):
and eight. I was there. It was the first day
they brought back Duchess since like ninety eight or ninety nine.
Whenever time it was played last they played it with
the Paulo Mike d Sceric last lineup, and then the
next night they busted out fisticuffs and then Duchess switched
back to the Forest Ring after that. But there's a

(13:57):
single duchess upright version that got played.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
You go through Hallucinogenics recordings, you might spot Bubby's goes
over eight minutes, I guess, and it's because for one
time only they did the part show Torture never stops
in the middle.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Of it Lay Radio City. Yeah, yeah, I know that one.
I was not at that. Who's in a Generics show?
But I remember that version. Josh, you were at the
Aragon show, right four?

Speaker 2 (14:29):
I was not No. Four three, Yes, but not. I
didn't see Hallucinogenetics, Okay, I saw the Houcent Genetics show.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
I think that was the last time I was at
the Aragon.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Actually, they've scaled up, I think since then. Right, they're
playing big Boy venues. Now, well, let's talk about our
big three and a half hour block of audio. We're
not going to listen to the entire thing, obviously, I
know Frankie wants to. It's a great of you, of course,
to share your recording via toaster Land give us a
bit of insight on that night. Clearly they were having

(15:01):
a good time playing from one am to four thirty
in the morning, just to run down the set list
for those of you who are not looking at it
on toaster land right now, as I am shine on you.
Crazy Diamond was the opening track. David mcluster won long
in the tooth precipitation. I'm not going to mention all
the sit ins and whatnot because there's too many right now.

(15:22):
Went on his big brown Beaver up on the roof
high Ball with the devil drums. There's a Jerry T's
back into Highball and a bunch of other stuff, Buzzards
of Green Hill, Intruder two thousand light years from Home,
into all kinds of stuff, Dee's Diner, Granny's Little Yard, Gnome,
Lights in the Sky, tax Man, Wamola, and.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
During rehearsals they went through Georgie Porgy twice. But that
didn't make the show.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Well, you know they had a limited time frame that night. Yeah,
we only got three point five hours.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
We have a list Claypool or Scary, Mike Dillon and
Paula Baldi. That was the lineup for this incredible show
in New Orleans, May four, two thousand and three, Tipitina.
So yeah, those are the statistics. I like to refer
to this show as the Mammoth that's what I call it.
That it is that it is, yeah, three hours, thirty minutes,

(16:22):
and there's there's just something really unique about those shows.
It makes you wonder if it was something in the
air that night, if they were just feeling each other
really well, if it was the audience. Who knows why
they decided to perform the longest show of their career
on a particular night. Bruce Springsteen has played four hour shows.

(16:45):
Pixies played a four hour show as well once. David
Bowie's longest concert ever was at the Chili Pepper in
Florida in nineteen ninety seven. He performed thirty six songs
for four hours as well. He basically went through his
entire live repertoire for that tour, except for one song

(17:06):
because he forgot that it was part of the sett list,
not because they ran out of time. The Cure performed
their longest show ever in Mexico City, actually back in
twenty thirteen.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
It was also a four hour show.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
It's really amazing how maybe once in their career bands
feel compelled to do this crazy marathon runs. And it's
really incredible that List did a three hour, thirty minute
show where he manages to keep you on the edge
during the entire show. I've played this show over and

(17:42):
over and I've never gotten board, and I'm still discovering
things in these performances every time I go back to
the show. It's just crazy how much stuff they crammed
in there. He went through the list of songs. It
doesn't sound like a lot of songs for three hours
and thirty minutes, but they did rich some of those songs.

(18:02):
You know, A really crazy way. Lights in the Sky
I think is almost twenty minutes long.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yeah, I think it's like eighteen Not to fact check
too much here, but May fifth, two thousand and two
is longer, oh four hours, it's four hours, so just
by just by thirty minutes. And then I think the
next longest is eight ten oh three, which is three hours.
I was at eight ten oh three. I was not

(18:28):
at five to five oh two, but five five oh
two was the original Tippotina's Late Night and we had
kind of an idea that they would do the same
thing again, And I mean, in addition to seeing C
TWOB three again was the draw to bring us down there,
just because we figured something crazy was going to happen
at the late night.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Show Wow, and then so on this night May fourth,
two thousand and three, that is were you so you
had an inclination they just kept playing or were they?
Was there any stated goal by Less because.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
I stated goal was we're going to play till sun up?
I think it was. It was dawn when we opened
the door, I think from what I remember from like
leaving New Orleans that morning. Yeah, back then we could
bringing Mike stands and I was crammed in up front,

(19:22):
like probably second or third row. We were really close.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
I'm looking at the set list of two thousand and
two now that you that you brought it up, and
it's remarkable how Liz managed not to repeat tracks one
year later, because there are some songs that were unique
to that two thousand and two show, like Holy Mackerel
and teleganing it running the Gauntlet. I've heard the show

(19:47):
because I've gone over every single show on Toaster, so
I've heard this one. But for me, two thousand and
three is the Keeper. There's just something extra special about
that show, I think. But this this one looks really
incredible as well.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Toaster is just two thousand and three. Tipotina's one you
go back to I wonder how often you listen to
these recordings after all these years.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Anyway, I have listened back to eight ten oh three
quite a bit. I have listened to Tipotina is probably
half the amount of time as I've listened eight ten,
eight ten. To me, well, it was Keho was back
by then, and I by that point Enor's contributions by

(20:33):
like spring though three, were starting to get less and less,
like you could kind of see him phasing out of
the band, kind of like as a fan, you could
kind of tell that he wasn't getting picked for solos.
It wasn't really like putting forth what he did like
a couple of years before. And then Keyho was like

(20:53):
the breath of fresh air again in Frog Brigade. And
I think there was like a how many more times
jam during two thousand years if I'm not mistaken? On
the A ten show. The cool thing about the five
to four to oh three, I saw either nine or
ten shows on the Purple Onion tour and I was

(21:13):
trying to catch tax Man. I don't know why that
of all songs, I had not seen tax Men like
the year before or in two thousand with Ja and
they were playing it in follow two. They played it
a few times, but it was like every show I
didn't go to, so I was like chasing that song,
and then I got it at five four oh three.

(21:34):
It was like, I think it was like the second
was it the finale of the second set?

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah, So that was like a breath of That was
like a nice sigh of relief there.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Oh yeah, because around then it's like four am and
you're like, I don't know, they can do it.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah, and then two thousand light years sometimes you get
that mistaken like it kind of starts off similar. And
I was very happy that I finally got my That
was my one goal of that tour, and I got it.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Ever since I discovered this show toaster, I've been extremely
curious who recorded this concert?

Speaker 1 (22:11):
How did they get it to sound so good?

Speaker 4 (22:14):
How did they get to record.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
The whole thing?

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Well, one on my website, I taped it amazing because
I mean, back then we can bring a mic stance, so.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
You had you had the mic stance at the front. Yeah,
and that's why it sounds so crisp.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
And so why it sounds so crisp, That's why Scarek
is like panned off hard to the right, like it's
a very nice like mix, Like you can tell the
instrument separation and everything. Like Scak. You can actually hear
Skak when he does like some of his effects. You
can actually hear his rass sacks through the air still
over the top of the effects.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
I was.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
I put this on earlier and I picked that up.
See that.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
That's why, that's why people like like Toaster are.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
So invaluable for the community. I mean, and if I
go to a show, I'm not taping shit. I want
to enjoy the show. Yeah, they could be busting out
COUNTERBAC cinema and I'm not recording it. I'm going to
be there in the moment. So thank you Toaster for
being the one that documents all of these incredible performances.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
You're welcome. I'm glad I've been doing it so far
so long that other people find it useful. Yeah, for sure,
kind of wild.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Let's sample a bit of this show here, and for
those of you listening, if you have a three and
a half hour block, sit back, enjoy, take it all
in in one listen. That'd be my dare to you,
just like so many people did that night start with
a little bit of shine On you Crazy Diamond. Yeah,

(24:07):
I'm hearing that sacks way over here. So my question is,

(24:29):
is shine On a pretty rare opener because it has
such an air finality to it, it's interesting to open
a show with it.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
I'm pretty sure it made a few openers, but it's
more of a second set or end of show slash encore.
There was actually a good quote in the eight ten
oh three. That's the show where less announced Prime is
coming back, and before shine On, there's some banter where

(25:05):
he mentions like, I was trying to think of what
to play and this song kind of sums up like
frog Brigade, and then it was shine On, So.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Works for me. Yeah, that recording sounds great right there
with your mic stands. That's cool, man, Let's move. So
then they play David mcilaster and Long in the Tooth,
and then we get precipitation with Mike Gordon. Interesting, by
the way, this is a ten and a half minute precipitation.
Would I would imagine most of these tracks because this

(25:37):
is a three and a half hour show. Most of
these tracks got their longest performances ever on this night,
Many of them at any rate.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Or close to, because I'm sure those stories aware of this,
But there's a jam cruise show with the Fancy Band
where they actually stretch some songs up to thirty minutes.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Do you know which one I'm referring to?

Speaker 4 (25:58):
I believe it's five Mistake and it's.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Just it's a ten track show.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
It has Thine, Nordles, Wales and Woke all the standards,
but each each song is over fifteen or twenty minutes long.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yeah, that's one seven and one eight oh five. I
believe you're talking about. It's like the they play Maggot
Brain and Another Break in the Wall part two, but
it's like not the music, it's not quite the music
for Another Break in the Wall. It's kind of like
their own version of it that I'm pretty sure that's
the one you're talking about. Even Poker your Eye out
as eleven.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
Minutes Fancy Band, two thousand and six, Okay, January ten.
The show opens with a thirty minute version of high
Ball with the Devil, then goes into a twelve minute
version of Riddles eighteen and a half minute version of
Phantom Patriots. Long in the Tooth Precipitation goes on for

(26:59):
fifteen minutes, one better for twenty, then you have a
fourteen minute drum solo, both sorts of Green Heel for
fourteen minutes, a six and a half minute version of
Thai Noodles, and it closes with an eleven minute version
of Holy Macro.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah like that after.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
Starting with dienoor Era, but really like when Kiho joined
the band, they got way more psychedelegan out there jams,
and I think that just kind of continued on, especially
when Jay entered.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
All right, let's move, let's hear some of this precipitation
with Mike Gordon. I'm pretty sure I've never listened.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
To this all the way through. H h it's great.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, uh toastter you a fish guy? So how did
how did how did that strike you? When Mike Gordon joined.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
I loved it. I mean he put his own, like,
uh instrumentation on it and added his own baseline and
kept it up, so I was happy with it. I
mean I think he said in one more song after that,
didn't he do the winns that's not really wins right
after it?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
That is correct?

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yes, yeah, I have a video of the first set
of the show and Mike is wearing like a motorcycle helmet.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Awesome. That is a tiny stage too.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah, Tippotina is way small.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Wow. Now does this video circulate it at all or
is it out there?

Speaker 4 (30:01):
I'm ok, I only have the first set up.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Okay, Wow, it's a great view.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Yeah, fantastic recording.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Awesome.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
You know that's that's not how I imagine the show
looked like.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
That is how you imagined, or now it's not how
I imagine.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
It looks like. That's awesome. That's great.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Well that's what that looks like.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Thanks for sharing that. By the way, that's a really
good video.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yeah, thank you, Pat. I mean, what a privilege to
to get a glimpse of that footage.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Yeah, speaking of Mike Gordon, let's hear a portion of
this eleven minute version of why its Big Brown Beaver.
That is not Why known as Big Brown Beaver, clearly
not oh rat. So it occurs to me that in

(31:59):
two thousand and three, obviously this is May two thousand
and three, so Primus is just around the corner in
the chronology. But he hadn't really touched a lot of
Primus that there were some with the Frobrigade shows, but
you know, he hadn't touched Wanona, but very rarely. I

(32:20):
think with the fro Brigade, right.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
It's a strange. It's a strange because with fro Brigade,
they stuck fairly close to the fristle Fry version of
Harold of the Rocks. They stuck fairly close to old
Diamondback Sturgeon, except that List would play it on the upright,
but it wasn't crazy different from the studio recording. But

(32:45):
then they did this really really peculiar version of Groundhog's Day,
which I think is kind of a disco version of
the song. And they also did these very strange versions
of Wainona and Jerry. So it's it's all of how
some songs he would play per album version and some
songs he would make these crazy arrangements for them, and Whinona.

(33:08):
I've always thought it's something really peculiar because.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
He was teasing.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
He was actively teasing the song with rog Brigade, But
then Fromage arrives just a little while later, and when
fans were requesting the songs, he he would say things like,
we're not doing that song because I fucking hate it.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
So it's so weird, right.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
It's kind of what I recall too. I mean, but
it was teased quite a bit in Frog Brigade. But yeah,
I think it took till what beat a dead horse
to her before he horses when I get back. Yeah,
and then it got played every night again. I think
that was actually my first Winona since my first show,
which was ninety seven. I caught it on Horde tour

(33:59):
and then I don't think I saw it again toil
O six.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Wow, so he had it on the brain, but it
didn't reappear for primus for quite some time. That's a
detail I'd forgotten. Uh, And it's certainly what we're hearing
is certainly not anywhere close to the established the redition
of it, which is great. Just he's it's it's one
of those nights. Just take it out, do what you're

(34:23):
gonna do. So that must have been a fun surprise
for you.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Yeah. I believe that was actually the first precipitation that
had a guest as well, if I'm not mistaken. I
was kind of I was thinking about that earlier and
I looked back and I'm pretty sure that was the first.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
One that had a guest on it who better than
Mike Gordon to guest on precipitation.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
He couple trace it INDs on as well from all
Good and seven O eight I think or eight o nine.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
That's gotta be a tough one to sit in on
because it's just so goofy, but it's also wide open,
so you can kind of do whatever you want.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Yeah, I trade does some like atonal solo ing over it,
which was pretty awesome.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Sice from Beaver. We go to uh Frobrigade's staple up
on the roof. M man, you're hearing every little stroke

(35:29):
on that high hand.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
That's great, great recording.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
M m.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
They're building to something, Frankie, is this why you chose it?

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I chose I chose this timestame just because it's so
sinister an eerie.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Also, the crowd not as loud as I would expect,
as far as you know your positioning and where you
were for the recording, So nice work there on positioning.
The MIC's two.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
I mean it was also what three in the morning,
so I noticed they didn't play like cosmic Highway or something.
They put people to sleep just because oh right, yeah,
it's slower, got to play more upbeat stuff. At three
in the morning.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Roof is certainly one of them. Okay, So after Roof
we get to high Ball with the Devil, which looks
like it's pretty long. So we get Highball for about
six seven minutes, then we go into drums, then we
get a Jerry T's, then we go back into high
Ball with the Rappers delight teas Jessica Lewy guests on saxophone.

(36:51):
Did I get it all?

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, that's you got it?

Speaker 4 (36:56):
I mean back then it was what either Highball or
two thousand light Years with go into drums and then
come back out.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
So tonight it was hi, all, well we should hear
a bit of the drums that we should certainly hear Jerry,
and then we should hear Jessica. It's all the ja names.
I feel, I feel included. It sounds like Mike and

(37:26):
Apollo going at it nice.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
We're in it down.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
This is one of my favorite parts of a Frobrigade
or any less show where Mike D's involved. Just let
him go nuts. So that Claypool Gold. One of the
greatest highlights was the Duchess, in which they were all
trading a few bars. Polo, Mike Brain and all just

(38:33):
letting it rip. So this is a highlight right here
for sure. So after twelve minutes of drums, we get
a Jerry was a race car driver tease. And it's
kind of funny because this tea is apparently last four
minutes and forty five seconds. I know it's just somewhere
in here, but it's funny that it's four on your tracking.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Let's see if we can hear this teas I said,
it's definitely the for first minute or so, okay of
that track.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
We should uh, we should time it and see if
it counts as a tease or a partial or a
full stand.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Not changing, We're not changing.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Who this is fun ripping. Paulo is hitting those double

(40:13):
double kick highlights pretty well there nicely I've done.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
I definitely, I definitely love Frigates doing Jerry.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Yeah, it could have been something, but I never went
back to it. Wow, So I was just looking back.
I knew this was near the beginning of Paulo's run.
This was only Paulo's fourth show with Claypool. I mean
Dad Wade sat in the entire Purple Onion tour, but
Paulo didn't drum for Frog Brigate until New Year's oh

(40:44):
two and then this was only the third show of
the tour, so he's crushing it already.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, that's really impressive. Wow that he's already in lockstep
almost uh with with Claypool. Wow, that's that is impressive.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yes, that's something that that we touched upon earlier on
the podcast, that Paulo is very underrated and understated. He
serves the songs, but when Les lets him go wild,
you know, when he's let loose, he can show you
what he's capable of this show, for instance, or the

(41:25):
conclusion of one better in the live performances. He's definitely
an incredible drummer.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Highly dependable night after night.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Yeah, there was like really good Lights in the Sky
outro on this show too, where there's like a two
or two and a half minute, like Paulo drum solo.
I mean that song always had kind of like a
drum outro, but this was kind of extended.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
I think, you know that's all right. I think Frankie's
timestamp has us sampling that unless it's a unless it's
like a thirty two minute Lights in the Sky, because
it's his timestamps had eight forty. So hopefully that's around
the outro. We'll find out they give us that Jerry,
and then we're back into high ball with all kinds

(42:13):
of crazy stuff going on, and we're gonna hear a
portion of it with Jessica and Sacks. M hm, that's

(43:18):
a cool groove. Dang, she's ripping. I don't know. I
don't know Jessica Lourie. What's her What was her affiliation
at the time.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
I know she was Seattle based at the time. I
believe she's New York based now. I don't remember what
act she was associated with. Okay, but she was like
one of Skarek's friends. Was how she was introduced. And
that's I know she said in a few other times.
This wasn't her only time sitting in around that time,

(43:52):
like in the year mid to mid two thousands, like
maybe she said in a couple more times.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Okay, as soon as you said Seattle, I knew she
was an associate of Scarex without without questioning.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
Okay, so she was at the High Sierra, which I
was also at that summer seven six of the three.
And then I get a O five Skerrik Adjason, that's
a good term for it.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Ah wow, Yeah, she's still going too. She got a
big green light because if let's let you go this
long or longer, you know you're doing something interesting exactly. Yeah, boy,
I guess if you add it all up, the first
seven minutes and then the drums and then the Jerry

(44:44):
thing and then this, you've got yourself like thirty minutes
all together. Yeah, so this is this is one really long,
meandering highball with the devil.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
We could say, yes, yes, for sure. I remember originally
I wasn't breaking out drums as a separate track, and
like it would just turn into these monstrosities like twenty
eight thirty five minutes between drums and the song on
either side of it, and so I started splitting it
up finally, I know, I went back and split a

(45:18):
lot of them. There might be a couple like stragglers
in there.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
You were doing a favor to the people who get
bored by drum solos, for sure.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
And that was yeah, that was As you probably recall,
it was a common complaint in those early Froubrigade days
are probably throughout the entirety of it, that there's like
another drum solo and then so breaking it out allowed
people to skip it if they wanted to. Which right,
so this is the longest tie ball with the Devil. Ever,

(45:48):
I guess if we want to call it that. After that,
they give us a fairly straightforward buzzards of Green Hill
just over six minutes.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
Yeah, yeah, no buzzards rise either.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Oh yeah, very nice. I won I wonder if they thought, well,

(46:52):
we we just took him places, so maybe we should
do a nice compact six minutes a mainstream Yes, the
radio palate a little bit. There's a lot of people
who don't know what just happened to them, So let's, uh,
let's bring it back now with a fairly straightforward buzzards.

(47:13):
Uh I. I always love it when they kick into
that backbeat there near the end, of course, it's always
really satisfying.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Uh So at this point, I mean we're we're actually,
uh in the chronology of the show, we've skipped a
handful of tracks, so we're we're pretty deep into it.
Is it is it around this time toaster? Did you
know you were going pretty much all night for that?
They weren't kidding around that you were gonna.

Speaker 6 (47:43):
We had idea, uh, and so that we're most were
most people troopers toaster or I.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Remember it's still being pretty packed by the end. I
have a distinct memory of my foot being like turned
weird and the crowd and like kind of being mushed
in there and like my leg throbbing the way home
after the show. So if it's enough to make you

(48:16):
stand weird for three hours straight and you can't can't
get enough room to like really space yourself out, I
think it was a full show throughout good night.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
I mean, this is the city for it. New Orleans
knows how to party. Obviously, It's for sure earned that reputation.
So these these late night sets are are nothing for
that city. Fantastic that they took advantage of the opportunity.
You don't get that opportunity too many places. The next
track that they played, it was a huge surprise to

(48:49):
somebody who doesn't know this show, I'm sure, and it
was a huge surprise to me at the time.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Yeah. I think it came back in oh two, didn't
it with Tim? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Oh? Had I played it?

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Okay, it just came back the summer before when Tim
was on drums.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
It was actually it was actually performed that the very
first Frog Brigade show at Calvers County, right, Jack Iron's
on her.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
They did Intruder, and then when Tim came back in
summer of two, they started playing it again and it
stuck around through Summer O three or actually New Year's.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
My I have a faulty memory of it being quite
a rarity, so somewhat common in those years.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
Yeah. I caught it quite a bit and followed two
looks like I saw it at least like six times.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Oh dang.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
Out of the ten shows I saw one, two, the three,
four actually seven times. Wow, seven out of ten. That's
not bad.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
That's a c.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
And then I caught it again in Indie at the
Vogue in summer and Toledo the Headliners Falls Church State Theater,
and then I've not seen it since.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
It was it was resurrected with mastadone in twenty eighteen.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Right, yeah, yeah, it started after I always saw the
Art Park show in Lewis and New York that tour,
and it started like a week after that show. So,
oh dang, no no intruder for me.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Well, let's sample the intruder that you did get to
enjoy at Tiputinas. Huh, this is why it's seven minutes

(51:10):
and forty five seconds we get a Mike d solo
all right, yeah, nice, Uh fascinating Uh to hear this now,
because I certainly have heard this portion of this before,
but to hear it again, it's pretty fun. Kind of
a halting version of it to me. Neat Frankie thoughts

(51:35):
on intruder, what can I say?

Speaker 3 (51:42):
I mean, anything from miss Lingo's degree is always welcome,
so that being intruder or you know, for a brief
for a fleeting moment. In ninety two, they were doing
Sinister Exaggerator. That was really cool.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
There's a couple like mini Tippy Toes as well.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Oh and they did a few a few seconds of
Nigel during some record label party as well in ninety two.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
Wow. Uh, that is so.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
The the residence material is something that kind of disappeared,
uh for a while, unless I.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Missed kind of.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
Yeah. The only one that really stuck around.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Was Skinny Okay, yeah, so because he would at least
play a little bit of Skinny with Frogs right and comes.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Constantinople was also there for for a while in the
ear of the early days.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Skinny.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
I saw a standalone version of it with like fancy
band and eight maybe, and then obviously with Primus it's
come back over the years. I'm trying to maybe seventeen
was the last time I saw it.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
That's got to be on Hoffer's list by now. It's
gotta happen, I would hope. So man, this, yeah, this
intruder in the background sounds great. That must have been
a lot of fun. And then from there, two thousand
light Years is next with a whole bunch of teases,
and then we get to the Crown Jewel. In the

(53:23):
Lesclaypool Frog Brigade discography, D's Diner, This one, this one, this.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
One has like Eric Bolivar comes out and plays like
the second half of the song. So it's not even
just Pallow on this one.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
This one was almost a nightly occurrence, I want to say,
around this time in almost any Frog Brigade slash Fancy era.
What I'm interested in this one is it's fourteen and
a half minutes, which actually sounds short for a D's.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
Diner Solid D's from that era. I don't think that's
short by any means. The two thousand light Years was
like twenty two minutes, and there's like some spacey jam
in the middle. Of it.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Frankie didn't provide a time code for that or some.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
There are some eight eight minute versions as well that
we're pre recurring, so I would say that fourteen minutes
is kind of out there for sure.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Okay, Yeah, I was being facetious with my comment, but
you nasty this one. I know our pal double A
very much enjoyed making fun of the designer. He loves
his D's Diner, always loves anytime they play it. He's down. Uh.
It did become somewhat of a punchline on the bullboard

(54:41):
that there is The's Diner once again.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
I do have you Have you been through these diner?

Speaker 4 (54:48):
I have been to these diner.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
I went in O two oh wow, way back when.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
I was out there for New Year's Wow.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Yeah, you've done all the stuff that we're just catching
up with.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Yeah, I did. I did Dell Davis Tree Farm when
it was still like, no, it was still Dell Davis
Tree Farm. It wasn't just Davis Tree Farm, and it
had the signs were all like the enhanced punch bowl
kind of. We just drove. We drove by the plot
of land.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
That's all we got.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
But you never saw it in its original and then
Cotting Town Mall.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah that's still there at least.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yeah, we gotta we gotta keep that one.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
At some point I drove by it. I saw the sign.
It was kind of like a rotating sign.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Yeah, it's really cool. Uh the sign itself is badass.
I've I've been told it's mostly an old people mall now,
which sounds more my speed. Actually, I very much enjoy it.
I think, put on my white new Balance and go
for a nice walk.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
Yeah we can do.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yeah, you bet, we'll motor up those stairs. Uh, let's
hear a little bit of this here. Uh Dee's Diner.
At least, it's my favorite part. Thanks franking sounding good.

(56:48):
This one, to me is a a set closer, or
it's always pretty near the end to my recollections. So,
you know, being uh well over two hours in, probably
two and a half hours in at this point, you know,
I would think, oh, they're playing D's. It's winding down.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
It's winding down. I'm not gonna get my tax man.
Oh wait, there's more.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Wait, they're not leaving the stage, right, Yeah, they just
finished their their compact fourteen minute version of D's and
they're not leaving something's going on. There's Frankie's cookie by
the way, he's uh, he doesn't get to eat that
until we're finished here, which is he's gonna hurry us
a long.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
I bet uh.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
And then we got Granny's Little Yard. Gnome Now that
one screams rarity in the frog brigde era to me,
is that the case.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
I remember seeing a few times in one okay, oh
very early, all right, I saw five or six shows
on that summer oh one tour, and I'm completely misremembering.
Hold on was cohebas I saw no one? So yeah,
no it came out. Was this the first Granny's Little Yard?

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Now?

Speaker 4 (58:08):
Is that correct? I guess my site might be correct. Yeah,
I guess this was the first Grannies since Holy Mackerel Tour. Wow,
that's amazingas all right, incredible, look at that. And then
it got played regularly through four five.

Speaker 7 (58:33):
And then it disappeared again once and six, once and
o seven there's that weird the But could a Bernie
Brain's version.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Oh yes, there was? Yes?

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Oh right, yeah, you told us about that one Frankie
back in our Bernie Brains episodes. Uh, I do want
to hear some of Granny's because it's it's just one
of those little gems from the Holy Mackerel disc that,
uh I think deserves more live treatment. And this one

(59:06):
five and a half minutes. I'm surprised to see. Let's
hear a bit of that.

Speaker 6 (59:14):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
That is a fat face tone, maam, I love those
scarrit flares. Excellent. Yeah, that sounds awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Oh interesting. Georgie Porge unrelated, but yeah, soundchecked at this show.
Georgie Porge only got played twice in one and once
in two thousand, did not actually make a set list

(01:00:22):
in three, they got sound checked a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Yeah, so that's one of those that they tried and
just weren't satisfied with.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
I saw it in Charlotte, so I did get to
see it once.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
So Ancient Mariner is another one that was rehearsed but
never made.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
It to win show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Yeah, and that one, to remind our listeners, that's a
really old less song from the eighties, right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
That's the story I heard.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Okay, amazing, Oh wait, are you eating your cookie? Rankie?
That's not allowed because you're off camera and you're saying amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Yeah, since we're recording for like four hours. I couldn't
resist any longer. That's eating Cluse it's a black and white.
I mean, you can resist a black and white cooking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
They are delicious. I'll give it to you. Yeah, let's
hear the end of Grannies. Why not?

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
M h m hm.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
M m.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
That's a fun ending.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
I wonder I've always wondered why Liz didn't bring this
one back in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
It's such a fantastic song. I would have been all
about it. I I apparently saw it a few times.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah, I'm curious for you toaster because you have, of
course been to hundreds of shows and caught most, if
not all, of the rarities. Is there something you're still
chasing after all these years?

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Do you like it now? I saw you like it? Okay.
I decided to take an extended trip last summer, and
I skipped the Buffalo show and they play it there,
and I was actually flying back into town that night,
and I was like, well, I'm going the next night
in Big Flats. They've been playing it this tour. I'll

(01:02:59):
see it. Then didn't get played, and then I was like, well,
I'll go to Saratoga like a couple of days later,
and they'll definitely play it then because it's gonna hit.
I'm gonna nope, No, you like it? So, oh wow,
it's gone again. That's the one, all right, That's that's
one of them. I've never seen Hellbound seventeen and a half.

(01:03:19):
That's another one because I skipped the I think it
was Parlington. They played it on Fromage tour and I
did not see that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
They didn't play it too much on Fromage, did they they?

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
I think it like or twice? Yeah, only ones?

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Yeah, only ones?

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
Was it Maine or was it Pearlings? And it was
one of the two.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
I distinctly remember the Hillbound being resurrected for the Murett
Theater during the three D tour in twenty twelve. Okay,
unless introduced it as a greasy old deep cut.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
I'll take a few more of those. They've been bringing
him out lately.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
Yeah, no, I've been lucky, so yeah, in quite a
bit this tour or too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Oh I wanted to ask you about Hoffer. I mean,
have you been tracking it and listening to footage and
all that good stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
I went to four shows last weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Oh you went? You did a run? All right?

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
Yeah, I did Lafayette, Burlington, New York, and Bridgeport, So
I'm loving the Hoffer. I think he's kind of like
a mix of like Jay and Brain. It's kind of
how I've placed him in my head. And he's not

(01:04:43):
really flubbing too much that I've noticed.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
What is it like catching the show with that apple
orchard toaster?

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
I mean, it's it's local to media and local ish.
It's only like sixty miles or so from me nice
maybe seventy, but it's okay. It's an outdoor summer stage
in the middle of absolutely nowhere, down the road from
Skinny Apolis, New York, which is where Jason Neustad actually

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has like a summer house.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Oh funny. Now do you get to pick your own
apples while you're there?

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
I know they're not ripe yet, but I believe they
use them for their like ciders and that kind of stuff.
I don't know if they sell the apples separately. They may,
I mean yours. They definitely have quite the orchards.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
I'm sure some of the bands that go in they're
worried that apples are provided to the crowd, you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Know, because yeah, throwing apples at the crowd. Gotta don't
cover like it's not good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Yeah, well excellent. I'm glad you got to see Hawfer
a bunch of times already. I have to wait to Sacramento.
But it's gonna be worth that weight for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Are you doing both nights? Both nights? You bet, both nights.
That's gonna be awesome. I believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
So in the background you can hear Lights in the
Sky from this Tippetina show eighteen eight rare song eighteen
minutes Frankie eighteen minutes of Lights in the Sky. You
weren't You weren't kidding around toaster gee whizz. So this one,
with this one, it's getting real late now on the show,

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and they're and they're playing Lights in the Sky, which
is one of his slowest, spasiest numbers ever. I wonder
if people were being lulled to sleep at this point.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
The knockout punch. But you you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Did say it was crowded all the way through, so
everybody persevered, I suppose, And yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
Yeah, that's how I remember it. But maybe they started
filing out during lights.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
I don't know. I'm going to forward to a about
halfway through this particular performance, is Frankie's got something he
wants us to hear. Oh yeah, we are going out
to space.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
If it's three point thirty in the morning and they're
playing this, I'm thinking about filing out or leaning against.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
The wall, or your eighteen hour drive home.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
You're yes, also thinking about Oh, man, I gotta stop
and get lots of caffeine. A lot of great atmospheric's
going on, though. I just I just don't know if
that works at three in the morning in New Orleans.
Clearly it does, it does.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Apparently that was my third and final time seeing lights
in the sky. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Indeed a rarity. Yeah, yeah, it is nice and tribute
and then toaster you did you said they did something
pretty far out near the end of it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
I remember there was like a couple of minute Paulo
drum outro. I don't know when that starts exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Let's see if we can find it here. I'll click around.
There's some drums. Frankie is draining his cocoa. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Yeah, that's what that's what they will do to me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
You beat me to it. I like that idea. There
on the back end, man, there's still another minute and

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a half. They're really dragging this one out. Wow, eighteen
minutes of Lights in the Sky. Holy smokes. So at
this point it's about what four am, and and you're

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probably thinking, I'm not going to get that tax Man.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
No way I can get it. I can get it
from your.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Moments after Lights in the Sky concludes, it happens. I
don't know how soon it happens here, because this is
still lights going into tax Man. All right, there it is,
you right back up, You're wide awake again. It's a
dance part all of a sudden at four in the morning. Yeah,

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so you got your tax Man. Everybody's probably up and
at it at that point. This is a fifteen minute Taxman.
By the way, I will say this is one they
usually were. Yeah, they usually were pretty long. I think
there's actually like three or four minutes, like crowd noise
at the end of that. Okay. I do recall really
liking the Taxman renditions from this time period, and they

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all were pretty long and jammed out. I have a
faint recollection of Raprigade Taxman. Does that sound familiar?

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
Yep? Okay, they did a rapprogade one.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Okay. I remember really liking that version because and I
even showed it to my dad. I was like, this
is you know, because he's a big Beatles fan. I
was like, here's what one of my favorite guys is
doing with this, and he's like he actually kind of
liked how they jammed it out, which I was surprised by.
So I won some points that day. Frankie wants us

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to listen to a portion of it about halfway through,
so see if we can find that quick there it is. Yeah,

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I had to come back to because I was just
gonna let that play and zone out on it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
A few years ago, during the pandemic, somebody posted two
really fantastic videos at the Great American Music Hall, Tell
a gunin Chit and tax Men, and I think they
were recording from the balcony because of the perspective, but
the quality is superf If you haven't checked those out,

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dear listeners, should go to YouTube and look out for
Frog Brigade, Great American Music Hall, tax Men.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
Incredible video. What year would that have been?

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Let me see if I can bring it up right now.
It's when it's back. I think it's two thousand, like
when they were doing animals. In its entirety unless was
wearing like his curry out with the helmet.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
That's the live frogs.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Or yeah one is one of the songs that didn't
make it to the official CDs. Yeah, yeah, it was
a blow that only two years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
But did you teel?

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
And yeah, it's a thirteen and a half minute rendition
of tax Men and it's just fantastic. You need to
check that out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Go now that toaster.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Sorry, I just blew your cover.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Did you did you happen to catch one of those
ultra rare delicate tendrils.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Back in five?

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
I did? I did? I saw Wow, Providence. I think
it was New Jersey and Providence.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
I'm right, I'm speechless.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Not Lupos it was. It is Lupo's, but Lupo's moved.
It wasn't the same Lupos as though two. But yes,
I was there and it only was those two shows
and the river is at least from what I remember
back get those shows. Uh, there was a Henry Rowins
poster because he was playing like the Starland Ballroom like

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shortly after, like the Frog Brigade was there and somehow
that spawned the delicate Tendrils being played. Who knows if
that's the actual reason. But that's that's the that's what
I've heard.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Yeah, I think that's what Frankie brought to the pod
for that one, because I recall that story. Now, yeah,
let's hope it's factual.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
That's what I remember hearing, and I was there, so hey,
there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
It's not apocryphal. There was a poster, so you got
a really nice, nice lengthy tax man there and that
checked a box for you and they left everybody floored,
i'm sure, with a wamola encore and sent you out
into the very early morning sunshine.

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
And some people are muggy morning.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Oh yes, of course it's in the bayou. Yeah, yeah,
and some people we got in a car and drove
eighteen hours home. Now, I do want to just reiterate
for the people listening, of course, the wonderful listeners of ours,
that we just give you guys a taste. It's up
to you to go listen to the entire go hunt
the mammoth. So I hope these choices of Frankies were

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wild and wooly enough to make a mammoth for you,
and that you'll seek out the Tipputina's recording and so
toaster of course, if you see a spike in traffic
and a corresponding spike in your bill, send it to Frankie.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
My internet hosting is unlimited bandwidth, so oh, rita stream
the heck out of it. I'm grandfathered into some hosting
plan from twenty years ago. That, yeah, that is key.
You can do your worst as far as streaming, it's
not going to hurt me. It looks like I've streamed

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one hundred and thirty six gig this month, Wow, which
is pretty incredible considering it's like MP three and yeah
M for a I think are the two formats I
have on there for streaming purposes. So that's a lot
of streaming that is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Yes, that's thousands and thousands and thousands of minutes of streaming, right, Wow,
good choice Frankie. By the way, this Tippy Tina show,
I think it's one that I need to revisit, having
only heard portions.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
I'm gonna cheat a little because this is usually an
exclusive question that we have for our bonus puff. But
curiosity is killing me, So toaster, who takes second place
to your primus and less cliple obsession?

Speaker 4 (01:16:41):
Oh, I mean I've seen fish probably thirty or forty times.
I've seen Tool twenty or thirty times. I saw a
Slayer probably twenty times. I have a lot of twenty
and thirties. You're you're a Metallica guy as well, right, No,
not really, I've seen him a couple of times, but no, no,
I'm not hardcore at all. I've seen the Melvins probably

(01:17:05):
fifteen twenty times. It's probably Fish or something Trey adjacent,
like all his projects, like I saw. I didn't see
Fish until nine, but I saw Trey solo starting in
like one or h two. I saw him quite a
few times as he came through. I was kind of like,

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I can't start going to see Fish because it'll take
away from seeing less like I know, I like, I'll
know I'll get sucked in kind of thing. That was
kind of like in the back of my brain, like
I can't go see them because I know I'll hit
them like repeatedly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
That's funny. You weren't even dodgy on it. You just
knew it was gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
I just kind of had that feeling. I like knew
a bunch of like fish heads from well, my sister
is a fishhead. She had she was trying to get
me to go see them. I had a ticket to
a ninety nine show and didn't end up going, And
then Oyster I had kind of brought it all together,
reout this history as far as that's.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
Concerned, ladies and gentlemen, this right here is an incredible
fan to talk to.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
My respect to toaster.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Any plans for New Year's twenty five twenty six? Do
you already have a flight booked? No matter what?

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
Oh no, I have to see what's going to gotcha.
So the funny thing about last year, as soon as
the alternate show got announced, I booked my flight that day.
I was like, it's too good, Like it was like
that day or the next day, I booked it. Like

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everybody I was talking to you knew it was going
to be something special.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
I was seeing that for me. Yeah, yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
I was at work and I got a message from
Josh and I just picked up my cell phone without
actually opening the conversation. But I saw being pulled written
in capital letters, and I started checking flights.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Do they do they get Do you get in trouble
for looking at your phone at work? Frankie? Do they
slap your hands or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
I explained that it's.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
Something urgent and they know that it's prime was related.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Oh, they know that at work it's outstanding.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
And then Toaster, when you go on go on the
road for these extended primus sessions and that sort of thing,
they do, they know, like your your boss gets it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
My boss knows. Yeah. I mean I've had the same
boss for twenty years now, so he's he's well aware.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
You you just hand him, like when the tour announcement comes,
you just send him the link.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
And send them to send him the time off for him. Yeah,
I need these three days off. Then the next week
I need like two more. Like however, your line's.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Up, you're in the Pentagon ride, Toaster.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
That's what I got from our conversation on your receive.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
Not quite the Pentagon.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
But he's not allowed to talk about it, Frank, not
allowed to talk about it. Thanks for joining us, Toaster,
and thanks for sharing your experience, your Tippy Tina's experience
with us.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
And thanks once again Toaster for everything you have contributed
to our community.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
It's really invaluable.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
We wouldn't we wouldn't be able to talk about all
these statistics and sample all these live performances. If it
weren't for toaster length, it's definitely one of the pillars
of our fandom and our knowledge.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
I am glad that everybody enjoys it as much as
I labored through making it. But now that it's there,
it kind of runs itself. If there's anybody who knows
how to code and wants to redo any part of
it for me, that'd be great. I know the media
player part of its kind of weak. That's as good
as I can do. But yeah, now that I know

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people have grown up on it and it's kind of
taken on its own, like status and Internet or which
is kind of neat. So I'm glad everybody's using it
to its whole potential.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
M