September 8, 2025 • 34 mins
Of Fungi and Foe's opening track is solidly on the Fungi side, as the music for this track is exactly as Les Claypool conceived and recorded it for the Mushroom Men video game, with vocals added to the album version. We sample the video game music, instrumentation, and get behind the story of the lyrics, and evaluate the tune as a harbinger for the record, and try to categorize it for the Claypool catalog, because that's, I guess, what our brains want to do.
Mushroom Men soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BovgCknGwo4&list=PLE8D3E68CBA71B182&index=1
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Josh Freaky with a couple of dump shits. Ell primates.
(00:20):
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(00:42):
sending it to Primus Tracks pod at gmail dot com.
This is a new concept. It's blown me away. I
am Josh. I'm one of the hosts of Primus Tracks.
I'm a bit of a morel and chantrell guy. He
is on the thirty ninth floor of Primus Tracks Towers,
where I assume he has some kind of greenhouse or
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grow space that has all kinds of varieties of mushrooms
and other things. It's Frankie, Hey, Josh, Frankie. We are
into it now. It is time for a fung Guy
and Foe track by track. How are you feeling about it?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
It's incredible how far we've come.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It is and as I discussed in the last episode,
this is the first time I'm hearing the album in
sixteen years.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Brack by track or did you already spend the full thing?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh? Great question. I have only listened to today's track.
I'm taking them one at a time in isolation so
that I can really sink my teeth into them.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Excellent.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Sinking one's teeth into mushrooms not a bad thing when
they're the right ones. I'm an Avid Morell and Chantrelle hunter.
It's actually starting to be Chantrelle season here in southern Oregon, Frankie,
So I'm getting excited to go out to find some.
Are you a mushroom guy or a mushroom man of
any kind?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I love mushrooms. Yeah, I like mushrooms on just about everything.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Are there specific ones in Mexico that I don't know about?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Small white ones?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
What's the what do you call them? What's the name
of those?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Champion?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Oh that sounds beautiful. Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna go try
some today out of your personal stash there on the
thirty ninth floor. Excellent. Yes, today we are talking about
mushroom men. It is the lead track from A Fungi
and Foe. Interestingly, not a short ambient track. We get
a full tune to kick off this record, Frankie, So
(02:37):
we're already breaking patterns and doing something different with the
Fungi Info and.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I believe this is one that got reworked from the
video game score.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Right, Yes, we're going to talk about that. This is
Mushroom Men three minutes and fourteen seconds, track one from
your Fungi Info record, CD, digital release, whatever format you
own it. In credits are as follows. Ready, Frankie, Less,
clay Tool everything the end.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
That's amazing. We should highlight that liszt clay Tool performed
this song on the Wamola.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yes, so on this track, we've got wamola, we have
lots of percussion, we have what sounds like a xylophone
to me that Less is playing on there. Because Mike
Dillon is not credited for that. You would think with
that kind of soundscape, that's Mike Dillon, but he's not
credited and this was, you know, put together for the
(03:39):
video game soundtrack, so I'm thinking that's Less playing around,
yeah on that instrument.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Interesting live history because although the fun Guy tour was
quite extensive and it went on for for a couple
of years, this song was mirror performed thirteen times. It
was quite a rare thing during the tour, and not always,
(04:08):
but on several occasions it was paired together with a
drum and percussion extended solo.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
So Pallo and Mike d got a chance to shine.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah. Yeah, they really got into it after the track
that the track was not properly concluded. The percussion just
kind of went on and then let's drifted away, and
then Paulo and Mike would go at it for several
minutes fifteen minutes approxiately.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, it is, And I wonder how that's categorized on toasters.
It's just drums, Yes, it is, okay, good, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You know, Toaster likes to keep things easy.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
After all that talk about categorizing. Now I'm wondering these
new ones only thirteen times three times?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
He was quite rare.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, that's surprising to me. Now you did say it
had a handful of performances, but when we look at
this record at the hole then really only three tracks
got regular play. It sounds like and I thought Mushroom
Men would have been one of them, but it actually
did not get as much. Of course, the back half
of this record, as you said, next to no performances
(05:22):
of many of the Yeah, okay, let's talk about the
Mushroom Men's soundtrack. Frankie, I believe I dropped a link
to the soundtrack playlist on YouTube into the liner notes
liner notes show notes for our previous episode. If I
did not, I will certainly put them in for this episode.
(05:46):
The first track from the Mushroom Men's soundtrack is titled
mushroom Men Theme. As you can imagine, is this song.
So it's on the spore Wars, it's titled mushroom Men Theme.
On this album, it's simply called mushroom Men. Not much
variants there. So clearly Less took some inspiration from what
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he was seeing and applied it to the lyrics and
much of the themes that we get through Seemingly many
of these tracks, including the next one we're going to
talk about. In our last episode, Frankie, I read a
couple of excerpts from interviews with Les Claypool, and I
also wanted to attack another on today. This is a
statement from Les via primusville dot com In two thousand
(06:31):
and eight or nine, right around the release or the
announcement of the release of this record. Les wrote when
Mushroom Men was first presented to me. I was coincidentally
on the perpetual late fall hunt for the elusive king
bulled mushroom, which dot the West Sonoma County landscape where
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myself and my family dwell. The yearly quest for these
fabulous fungal delicacies has become a bit of a seasonal
obsession for myself and my children over the past few years.
Coupled with my son's obsession with fantasy gaming, it was
all I could do to get anything else done around
Rancher Relaxo. Once he got wind of the impending Mushroom
Men game and the creator's interest in having me do
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the soundtrack. After seeing the design material and mock ups online,
I was queried on a daily basis whether or not
I had talked to the mushroom guys and would they
be sending us a beta version to try out. I
knew it once that this was an opportunity to gain
massive brownie points in the eyes of my offspring, a
feat that becomes more and more difficult the closer they
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get to adolescence. Thanks Mushroom Men.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I mean if Lis said that what hope is there
for the rest of the world, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Even he has to curry favor with his kids by
making songs for video games. So when you're a somewhat
well known musician, you still can't escape it. You still
have to be a dad. Interesting idea there. So, and
of course the family hunts for mushrooms down there in
their locale, which is really cool. There's there's certainly some
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personal connections for him as well, as hey, I can
do this thing and my kids will think I'm pretty cool,
and he's he's certainly correct that as they get closer
to adolescents, parents get less and less cool. So he
realized the clock was ticking and went for it.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Good for him.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So let's hear some of the mushroom men theme from
the Spore Wars soundtrack. It might Frankie sound extremely familiar.
(09:04):
Sound familiar sounds intact. Yeah, So, as you might recall
in one of the interviews I quoted last episode, he
said he wanted to give them finished products. He didn't
want to give them snippets, and so he delivered this
song completely intact for the Spore Wars soundtrack, and then
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afterwards took it for himself and added vocals. So what
you're hearing is essentially an instrumental version of Mushroom Men
as presented on a Fungi and Foe. It's all there.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Speaking of instrumentals, our pal Eric seems to be in
possession of the pig Hunt film, so perhaps he'll be
able to shed some light on those instrumentals.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I've got a copy coming my way, yes, so I
can help us out with that. So what we have
essentially is verbatim instrumentation Frankie that is carried over to
a Fungi and Foe. So you could argue that it's lazy,
but the song is fully formed, and so I'm not
going to make that argument. And it is fully formed
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in accordance with Less's vision for the game and what
he had been presented with and how that matched. So
why not move forward with it? He already made the effort,
and he can then add vocals to it and tell
a story. And he decided to tell a story that
was somewhat related to the idea of these mushroom people.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And the lyrics are very well written. It's a really
great piece of songwriting, and the hook I think is
quite catchy.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So yes, when I listened to this recently for the
first time in many many years, some of it came
back to me, and I will say as in the
preceding days after listening to it Frankie, when walking the dogs,
I found myself in idle moments vocalizing mambau mu mup
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and just messing around with that. So it is catchy,
there is. There are some catchy elements to it, and
the lyrics are a bit different, I think for a
Claypool tune. But that said, I cannot help but separate
this from the game, and so I keep coming back
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to the idea that this is menu music, and so
menu music to me, it's catchy, but it's unobtrusive. It
sets a tone but lets you concentrate on what you're doing,
as is required of any menu music when you are
firing up a video game. I am not a gamer
by any stretch, but when I was playing video games
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more regularly, say fifteen years ago, that was something that
I appreciated about the games I was playing. There's a
certain aesthetic that you want to establish on the men,
which is the first thing you often see in these games,
and I think that this the mushroom men theme. Now
I actually haven't played this game, so I don't know
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if this is the menu music, but that is what
I'm ascribing it to. So to me, it has the
quality of establishing an environment or an esthetic. And as
you said, it's got some catchy elements, and it's got
some wamola and some whimsy. And the other thing I
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noticed is, at least on the album version, of course,
this YouTube upload is not of the greatest quality of
the Mushroom Men's soundtrack because it gets compressed. But on
the studio version, on the record, you can hear the
stick hitting the wamola string, and so you can kind
of hear that oft in one channel. And I didn't
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know what it was for the first forty five seconds
until it dawned on me that he had micd it
there and all right, so I can hear this, So
I can hear the stick. That's great, very percussive, of course,
that's we already heard the sample. Not much of a
melody to be found throughout, which is are for the
course sometimes with Claypool and primus. But it certainly pulses
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with percussion.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
But I think it's also something inherent to the wamola, right,
I mean, there's there's just so much you can do
with the.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Instrument there is there are a lot of possibilities with wamola,
and you can get your own at packaderum instruments dot com.
But they're watching somebody like our Palko play around with
one on Instagram or just walking by the display at
the on the stops on the recent tour and hearing
people mess around with it. There are lots of possibilities,
(13:47):
and so he's mining those possibilities on this track, and
from my vague memory, on many tracks throughout this record.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And speaking of of the Wamola, there is a lone
cover version on YouTube. I mean, there are a couple
of videos of people singing the song, but there's just
one lone video of someone playing the song on the
on on the I'm going to share it with you
right here, and it's actually quite a good cover. That
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guy has done some really great covers on his channel.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
There you go. I'm impressed that somebody would give this
a go.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Exactly. Yeah, very obscure song to cover.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
A cover of mushroom men. Oh he's playing it on
the but he's not doing the vocals at the same time.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, he's not less play tool.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Hmmm. Yeah, there's only one less play tool. Fair enough,
that's a fancy looking wam's got too. I think the
challenge is finding the correct position on the crank, so
you have to find the right tone, So that actually
is a challenging thing to listen to what somebody's doing
on a wamola and then duplicate it. So that's impressive.
I'll give him that. Yes, got to add those vocals, buddy.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I think it's also quite impressive that Les had already
done a full wamola track with the self titled on
the Purple Onion record, and he had been playing the
instrument as well with Primus, and then when he approached
this song, I mean, you have a kind of limited
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instrument which is very cool, which is very unique sounding,
but very limited. So how do you record yet another
song on that instrument without replicating or being overly repetitive
in terms of what you had already recorded? And I
think let's succeeded because most Roman sounds pretty unique. Other
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than sharing the instrument with the wamola track, there's no
recent I don't think about wamola when I listen to
this song.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Same yeah, and up to this point, and correct me
if I'm wrong. Other than the Wamola track on Purple Onion.
It was largely reserved for live performances and was kind
of a novelty for the audience that drum and wamola break,
so they got to see it live, but it didn't
really turn up on any records, But then on this
one it turns up in spades. Yeah, And there's something
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to be said about setting parameters for oneself. And I
think I've talked about that before with things like the
rules of poetry, and I'm using the term rules loosely
because you can break them whenever you want. The idea
that you have infinite possibilities means you have infinite possibilities.
But when you build yourself a structure or limitations and
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work within those limitations, that can challenge your thinking and
challenge how you approach something. So with the Wamola, even
though there are tons of possibilities with it, I would
say musically there are limits. But Less is doing a
lot of different things, particularly in this track, that are
not necessarily melodic. But he's finally finding excuse me, different
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things to do with this instrument. So it's not just
a one a one trick pony. I suppose you can.
You can do a lot with it, even with one
string and a crank. I wanted to play a bit
more of the instrumentation because something's dawning on me. I
think as as we talk about it, Wow, I love
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that break. First of all, that's my favorite part of
the song. Bully Does, Bully Does. He's doing that old
guy voice, which I very much enjoy. I think what's
happening here is he's establishing a soundscape that's not necessarily dark,
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but very woodsy and earthy. It seems to fit that
mushroom motif. So we've got the mushroom motif and the
forthcoming Bore motif, but both of them largely are out
in the wilderness, so it kind of has that woodsy
feel to it to a degree. And that could be
the power of suggestion because this started with the Mushroom
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Man game. But I do think he's capturing something here,
And I wrote in my notes Frankie Primus gave us
the Brown album. Twelve years later, Les Claypool gave us
the Ground Album. It's Twigs, Duff Soil Detritus. So it's
kind of like, you know, this song does transport me
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to the woods of southern Oregon. As I am running
around looking for Morel's in the springtime or looking for
Chantrelle's in the mountain woods in the early autumn. There
is something there. I'm I'm feeling a connection. And of
course there are elements of this that are catchy, and
so there's there's something to it. I don't know that
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it holds me all the way through the song, but
there are moments that I do like, I bet the
next time I go walking the dogs, I'm still gonna
go and just mess around with that sound. Now, of
course we're talking about the first track on the record,
But where does this rank for you on the record?
(19:40):
Is this for you one of the stronger tunes or
catchier tunes that holds your interest?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yes, it is, I think one of the better songs
on the record. It sets it sets a tone, it's
quite it's quite a compelling way to start the record,
and I like how it It's a really odd song
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for me because if you read the lyrics on paper,
they read fairly extensive, yet when you listen to the song,
it manages to sound sparse. The lyrics come and go,
and when Less is doing that vocalization that you have highlighted.
I've often wonder if that washing noise is his voice
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or if it's some kind of instrument.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, I'm not entirely sure what he's doing there. If
he's putting his voice through the envelope filter or something
like that and messing with it, very well, could be
that that's what he's doing, pairing it with wemla, you know,
kind of filtering his voice too, And I think that's
also kind of what gives it that ground woodsy feeling. Yes,
(20:54):
like you know, the voice is bubbling up to the
surface like three park type thing. Yes, Yes, like that
very much. So, you know, don't be hasty. He's an
end or something. Speaking of those lyrics, I mentioned that
they're a bit different. You know, there's no cautionary tail here.
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There is the warning don't touch the amanitas. Look out
for amanitas. For those of you unfamiliar, amanitas are very
attractive mushrooms. They have a white stock with a red
top and those white spots on them. Many of them
are poisonous, bad for you. Stay away. As pretty as
they are, just don't touch them. The belitas are well
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regarded in the culinary world and used for all kinds
of fancy cooking. I would put them on the same
level with Moreles myself. Morell's are my top mushroom Yeah,
so these are a bit different. On the lyrical side, Frankie,
we have this first stanza of you may see horses
try to fly a dog with periwinkle eyes, but peppered
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earth with chunks of sky. Now there's a sight worth seeing.
So we're already into nature. I suppose, you know, if
we're talking woodsy when sod gets moist with dewey flow
and the fungus spores they start to show, and if
you're sharpen in the dough, you may spy a different being.
So he's hinting at something there. You're willing to see
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something out in the woods when you're out hunting for
for mushrooms. The next stands is my favorite because I
have a personal connection to it, he says. I lean
my head on a window pane and stare out cat
eyed through the rain, and though the dims an awful strain,
I think I've seen a mushroom man. So he's doing
two things there. He's bringing the mushroom men imagery all
the way back, and so we're dealing with some kind
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of mythical being that he thinks he sees through the window,
you know, through the rain. I have to say, Frankie,
this takes me back to being a kid. There's no
better feeling in the middle of winter, when the heater
is raging and I'm really warm inside the house. There's
no better feeling than to pull up the curtain and
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put my forehead against the window because it is ice cold,
and it cools me down right away.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I did that a lot when I was a child.
I don't think my parents kept the house too warm,
but I would get hot and just press my forehead
against one of the windows. Such a relief. So when
I reread these lyrics, it took me back to those
moments when I would do that. Then we get that
break with Belitas and Amanitas, and then we get a
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really interesting piece with be it seven Sons or seven
trout Trout. Yeah, I came to see with throbbing doubt,
throbbing doubt, Frankie throbbing the fun guy as they pranced about.
So we're seeing the dancing mushrooms again or the anthem
mushroom mushrooms. The seven Sons are seven Trout interesting idea.
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I seven sons, I think of seven sons for seven daughters.
There's some mythical things around seven seven sons. Uh, of course.
Then I go to Iron Maiden, seventh son of a
seventh son. I don't know if that's what he's invoking,
but seven sons are seven trout is a funny line
to me. But once again, this is not a cautionary tale.
This is like a series of vignettes which we've seen before,
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but it's not the usual fair and this is very
It seems like a series of observations more than anything else.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yes, yeah, he's just making He's just making the listener
established mental images about the characters and the the atmosphere
of the songs on the record.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Right, yeah, yeah, you're gonna see a lot of wild
stuff out here. But if you see a mushroom man,
you're hallucinating. I think is the idea here? Uh you know,
Jacko Loobe's eating bacon. I love it. It's time to
get your glasses checked. Oh okay, I've gone too far.
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The lyrics do speak to me to a degree, really
great imagery staring cat eyed through the rain. It's just,
you know, as a whole I'm just it's not a
full sale yet, but maybe it'll get there as we
get through these episodes. Great, we've talked about it enough.
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It's time for other people to talk about it. Frankie.
It's Primates takes that is the universal constant over there
at patreon dot com, forward slash Primus tracks go check
it out. Of course, if you want your take on
the track up for discussion, read right here in the podcast.
That's the place to do it. We do have some
Primates takes for Mushroom Men, Frankie. Now, I hope that
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my commentary in our preview episode is not influencing the
thought process of our primates and Primatrons and anybody else
listening to this album. We're coming back to this album.
My experience is mine. It doesn't have to be yours.
It doesn't have to color your experience or influence you
in any way. But I did have a feeling we'd
get a mixed bag on the takes, so let's get
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to them. Skullgan Val says, I love the vibes and
the sound. The lyrics really conjure something for me. If
I'm sharp and in the know, I may spy a
different being that sounds amazing or maybe scary. Keep the
animal and nature imagery coming, please, And that's a fascinating
idea because we don't get a lot of straight up
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nature and animal imagery in less Claypool lyrics, so that
is a bit of a departure. Val also mentioned that
nature imagery is rapidly disappearing from our literature, Whereas you know,
hundred years ago, especially nature imagery took up a lot
of real estate in novels and books, and it just
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takes up a lot less space now. So maybe we're
losing that connection in many different ways, and that could
be one of them. Also, when I'm doing certain units
for my students Frankie, and we get into nature and
imagery and read some especially poems, there's a lot of groaning.
All Right, we're gonna make it more true to life.
(27:18):
So I take them outside and just have them do
different observation exercises, you know, prep them with a task
or a certain thing that they're looking for or listening for,
and then they're doing some writing and then they can
appreciate it. Moving on, Mickey Waters says, love the percussion
definitely sets the tone for the record. I thought the
Wimola was pretty rad at the time, but sadly the
novelty has worn thin for me. Well, don't worry, mickey,
(27:41):
they never play these tracks live. Marcus Meyl says, the
only album in the catalog I just can't get into
at all. Wow, that was my worry that we'd be
hitting the nator point for a lot.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Of people getting savage in here.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
On the other side of things, our resident curmudgeon Eric
and Australia has turned that frown upside down, and he says,
I've been through the album a bunch of times recently
and I'm loving the dark vibe revisited. This jam sets
the tone perfectly, plenty of jazz dad lest His vocal
delivery on this song and across the album is fantastically
varied and waits the in. That's what this album has done.
(28:19):
Frankie has turned Eric into the nicest guy on the block.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Thank you, Fung Guy and Foe.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Defying expectations everywhere it goes. John Shreef says a wemmel
a showcase with a heavy dose of Mike Dylan, I'm
here for it. Well, that's what you're getting live John
and Matt Ray says, I filed this under oh good
less he's doing something but no, thanks. Wow, you're not
taking this personally, are you?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Okay? Good? Well, now it's time for Frankie's favorite part
of the podcast, Live.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Cuts from vehicle.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Live cuts for the Jam vehicle live.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Cut what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I'll tell you what's going on here, does embodied voice
of Tim Soyer. It's live cuts of mushroom Men. Frankie
has a couple today. One is from May twenty third,
two thousand and nine. The other is from March twenty six,
two thousand and nine. I would imagine both of these
are available on toaster Land for anybody interested. Yes, they
are excellent. So May twenty third, two thousand and nine
(29:27):
is from summer camp in Chillicot, Illinois. Wow, this checks
in at a scant three minutes and thirty seven seconds,
probably because the drums are moved to a separate track exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Let's hear it in olds Glory.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Oh I heard Mike d Yeah, sounds faithful to the
record there. Well, he's delivering that vocal with great panage. Yes,
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and then it sounds like we get some drums after that.
I shouldn't have paused it. Our next life cut is
from Frankie's fictional bonus tracks for the Funkynfo thirtieth anniversary pressing,
which will be out in the mere fourteen years, which
might be the next time I listen to this record. Frankie.
This is from March twenty six, two thousand and nine.
(31:09):
I don't have a location on this, but it's readily
available over on toaster. So this is where we get
to hear the amplified outro and this track six minutes
and twelve seconds. Nice pulse. Yeah, there you go, Paulo
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and Mike d giving him something to chew on. That's
cool stuff. I like that that is open for them
to fill that space and let it rip after having,
of course, to be very disciplined on percussion throughout that yes,
and limited I suppose throughout that track, because they have
to serve its intention. Then they get to let it go. Well,
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mushroom Men, I don't actually see you because I'm clearly hallucinating,
but I can tell you that you've been tracked. That's
all I've got for this one. Frankie parting thoughts on
mushroom Men.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Compelling opening track, not what you would expect on a
list album. Like you mentioned, there's no lush, atmospheric instrumentals.
He goes right into song number one, and I think
it'll always be a curious little number on a forgotten record.
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Very fun song to listen to.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I think, like a fungus, this might grow on me.
We'll find out. I'm certainly more receptive now than I
was in two thousand and nine, and I'm looking for
those little things. Will I go listen to mushroom Men
again as soon as we say goodbye? Probably not, but
I'm more likely to primates, primatrons, people of earth. Thank
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you also much for listen. We'll talk to you next time.
Later days with a maze Jackson, It's time begins a
glass of ja
It's Josh Freaky with a couple of dump shits. Ell primates.
(00:20):
You found Primus Tracks. Congratulations, and I mean that wholeheartedly.
There are many places to find Primus Tracks. This is
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sending it to Primus Tracks pod at gmail dot com.
This is a new concept. It's blown me away. I
am Josh. I'm one of the hosts of Primus Tracks.
I'm a bit of a morel and chantrell guy. He
is on the thirty ninth floor of Primus Tracks Towers,
where I assume he has some kind of greenhouse or
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grow space that has all kinds of varieties of mushrooms
and other things. It's Frankie, Hey, Josh, Frankie. We are
into it now. It is time for a fung Guy
and Foe track by track. How are you feeling about it?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
It's incredible how far we've come.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
It is and as I discussed in the last episode,
this is the first time I'm hearing the album in
sixteen years.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Brack by track or did you already spend the full thing?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh? Great question. I have only listened to today's track.
I'm taking them one at a time in isolation so
that I can really sink my teeth into them.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Excellent.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Sinking one's teeth into mushrooms not a bad thing when
they're the right ones. I'm an Avid Morell and Chantrelle hunter.
It's actually starting to be Chantrelle season here in southern Oregon, Frankie,
So I'm getting excited to go out to find some.
Are you a mushroom guy or a mushroom man of
any kind?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I love mushrooms. Yeah, I like mushrooms on just about everything.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Are there specific ones in Mexico that I don't know about?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Small white ones?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
What's the what do you call them? What's the name
of those?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Champion?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Oh that sounds beautiful. Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna go try
some today out of your personal stash there on the
thirty ninth floor. Excellent. Yes, today we are talking about
mushroom men. It is the lead track from A Fungi
and Foe. Interestingly, not a short ambient track. We get
a full tune to kick off this record, Frankie, So
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we're already breaking patterns and doing something different with the
Fungi Info and.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I believe this is one that got reworked from the
video game score.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Right, Yes, we're going to talk about that. This is
Mushroom Men three minutes and fourteen seconds, track one from
your Fungi Info record, CD, digital release, whatever format you
own it. In credits are as follows. Ready, Frankie, Less,
clay Tool everything the end.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
That's amazing. We should highlight that liszt clay Tool performed
this song on the Wamola.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yes, so on this track, we've got wamola, we have
lots of percussion, we have what sounds like a xylophone
to me that Less is playing on there. Because Mike
Dillon is not credited for that. You would think with
that kind of soundscape, that's Mike Dillon, but he's not
credited and this was, you know, put together for the
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video game soundtrack, so I'm thinking that's Less playing around,
yeah on that instrument.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Interesting live history because although the fun Guy tour was
quite extensive and it went on for for a couple
of years, this song was mirror performed thirteen times. It
was quite a rare thing during the tour, and not always,
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but on several occasions it was paired together with a
drum and percussion extended solo.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
So Pallo and Mike d got a chance to shine.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah. Yeah, they really got into it after the track
that the track was not properly concluded. The percussion just
kind of went on and then let's drifted away, and
then Paulo and Mike would go at it for several
minutes fifteen minutes approxiately.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, it is, And I wonder how that's categorized on toasters.
It's just drums, Yes, it is, okay, good, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You know, Toaster likes to keep things easy.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
After all that talk about categorizing. Now I'm wondering these
new ones only thirteen times three times?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
He was quite rare.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, that's surprising to me. Now you did say it
had a handful of performances, but when we look at
this record at the hole then really only three tracks
got regular play. It sounds like and I thought Mushroom
Men would have been one of them, but it actually
did not get as much. Of course, the back half
of this record, as you said, next to no performances
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of many of the Yeah, okay, let's talk about the
Mushroom Men's soundtrack. Frankie, I believe I dropped a link
to the soundtrack playlist on YouTube into the liner notes
liner notes show notes for our previous episode. If I
did not, I will certainly put them in for this episode.
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The first track from the Mushroom Men's soundtrack is titled
mushroom Men Theme. As you can imagine, is this song.
So it's on the spore Wars, it's titled mushroom Men Theme.
On this album, it's simply called mushroom Men. Not much
variants there. So clearly Less took some inspiration from what
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he was seeing and applied it to the lyrics and
much of the themes that we get through Seemingly many
of these tracks, including the next one we're going to
talk about. In our last episode, Frankie, I read a
couple of excerpts from interviews with Les Claypool, and I
also wanted to attack another on today. This is a
statement from Les via primusville dot com In two thousand
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and eight or nine, right around the release or the
announcement of the release of this record. Les wrote when
Mushroom Men was first presented to me. I was coincidentally
on the perpetual late fall hunt for the elusive king
bulled mushroom, which dot the West Sonoma County landscape where
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myself and my family dwell. The yearly quest for these
fabulous fungal delicacies has become a bit of a seasonal
obsession for myself and my children over the past few years.
Coupled with my son's obsession with fantasy gaming, it was
all I could do to get anything else done around
Rancher Relaxo. Once he got wind of the impending Mushroom
Men game and the creator's interest in having me do
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the soundtrack. After seeing the design material and mock ups online,
I was queried on a daily basis whether or not
I had talked to the mushroom guys and would they
be sending us a beta version to try out. I
knew it once that this was an opportunity to gain
massive brownie points in the eyes of my offspring, a
feat that becomes more and more difficult the closer they
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get to adolescence. Thanks Mushroom Men.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I mean if Lis said that what hope is there
for the rest of the world, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Even he has to curry favor with his kids by
making songs for video games. So when you're a somewhat
well known musician, you still can't escape it. You still
have to be a dad. Interesting idea there. So, and
of course the family hunts for mushrooms down there in
their locale, which is really cool. There's there's certainly some
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personal connections for him as well, as hey, I can
do this thing and my kids will think I'm pretty cool,
and he's he's certainly correct that as they get closer
to adolescents, parents get less and less cool. So he
realized the clock was ticking and went for it.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Good for him.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So let's hear some of the mushroom men theme from
the Spore Wars soundtrack. It might Frankie sound extremely familiar.
(09:04):
Sound familiar sounds intact. Yeah, So, as you might recall
in one of the interviews I quoted last episode, he
said he wanted to give them finished products. He didn't
want to give them snippets, and so he delivered this
song completely intact for the Spore Wars soundtrack, and then
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afterwards took it for himself and added vocals. So what
you're hearing is essentially an instrumental version of Mushroom Men
as presented on a Fungi and Foe. It's all there.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Speaking of instrumentals, our pal Eric seems to be in
possession of the pig Hunt film, so perhaps he'll be
able to shed some light on those instrumentals.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I've got a copy coming my way, yes, so I
can help us out with that. So what we have
essentially is verbatim instrumentation Frankie that is carried over to
a Fungi and Foe. So you could argue that it's lazy,
but the song is fully formed, and so I'm not
going to make that argument. And it is fully formed
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in accordance with Less's vision for the game and what
he had been presented with and how that matched. So
why not move forward with it? He already made the effort,
and he can then add vocals to it and tell
a story. And he decided to tell a story that
was somewhat related to the idea of these mushroom people.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And the lyrics are very well written. It's a really
great piece of songwriting, and the hook I think is
quite catchy.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
So yes, when I listened to this recently for the
first time in many many years, some of it came
back to me, and I will say as in the
preceding days after listening to it Frankie, when walking the dogs,
I found myself in idle moments vocalizing mambau mu mup
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and just messing around with that. So it is catchy,
there is. There are some catchy elements to it, and
the lyrics are a bit different, I think for a
Claypool tune. But that said, I cannot help but separate
this from the game, and so I keep coming back
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to the idea that this is menu music, and so
menu music to me, it's catchy, but it's unobtrusive. It
sets a tone but lets you concentrate on what you're doing,
as is required of any menu music when you are
firing up a video game. I am not a gamer
by any stretch, but when I was playing video games
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more regularly, say fifteen years ago, that was something that
I appreciated about the games I was playing. There's a
certain aesthetic that you want to establish on the men,
which is the first thing you often see in these games,
and I think that this the mushroom men theme. Now
I actually haven't played this game, so I don't know
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if this is the menu music, but that is what
I'm ascribing it to. So to me, it has the
quality of establishing an environment or an esthetic. And as
you said, it's got some catchy elements, and it's got
some wamola and some whimsy. And the other thing I
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noticed is, at least on the album version, of course,
this YouTube upload is not of the greatest quality of
the Mushroom Men's soundtrack because it gets compressed. But on
the studio version, on the record, you can hear the
stick hitting the wamola string, and so you can kind
of hear that oft in one channel. And I didn't
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know what it was for the first forty five seconds
until it dawned on me that he had micd it
there and all right, so I can hear this, So
I can hear the stick. That's great, very percussive, of course,
that's we already heard the sample. Not much of a
melody to be found throughout, which is are for the
course sometimes with Claypool and primus. But it certainly pulses
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with percussion.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
But I think it's also something inherent to the wamola, right,
I mean, there's there's just so much you can do
with the.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Instrument there is there are a lot of possibilities with wamola,
and you can get your own at packaderum instruments dot com.
But they're watching somebody like our Palko play around with
one on Instagram or just walking by the display at
the on the stops on the recent tour and hearing
people mess around with it. There are lots of possibilities,
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and so he's mining those possibilities on this track, and
from my vague memory, on many tracks throughout this record.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And speaking of of the Wamola, there is a lone
cover version on YouTube. I mean, there are a couple
of videos of people singing the song, but there's just
one lone video of someone playing the song on the
on on the I'm going to share it with you
right here, and it's actually quite a good cover. That
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guy has done some really great covers on his channel.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
There you go. I'm impressed that somebody would give this
a go.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Exactly. Yeah, very obscure song to cover.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
A cover of mushroom men. Oh he's playing it on
the but he's not doing the vocals at the same time.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, he's not less play tool.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Hmmm. Yeah, there's only one less play tool. Fair enough,
that's a fancy looking wam's got too. I think the
challenge is finding the correct position on the crank, so
you have to find the right tone, So that actually
is a challenging thing to listen to what somebody's doing
on a wamola and then duplicate it. So that's impressive.
I'll give him that. Yes, got to add those vocals, buddy.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I think it's also quite impressive that Les had already
done a full wamola track with the self titled on
the Purple Onion record, and he had been playing the
instrument as well with Primus, and then when he approached
this song, I mean, you have a kind of limited
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instrument which is very cool, which is very unique sounding,
but very limited. So how do you record yet another
song on that instrument without replicating or being overly repetitive
in terms of what you had already recorded? And I
think let's succeeded because most Roman sounds pretty unique. Other
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than sharing the instrument with the wamola track, there's no
recent I don't think about wamola when I listen to
this song.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Same yeah, and up to this point, and correct me
if I'm wrong. Other than the Wamola track on Purple Onion.
It was largely reserved for live performances and was kind
of a novelty for the audience that drum and wamola break,
so they got to see it live, but it didn't
really turn up on any records, But then on this
one it turns up in spades. Yeah, And there's something
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to be said about setting parameters for oneself. And I
think I've talked about that before with things like the
rules of poetry, and I'm using the term rules loosely
because you can break them whenever you want. The idea
that you have infinite possibilities means you have infinite possibilities.
But when you build yourself a structure or limitations and
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work within those limitations, that can challenge your thinking and
challenge how you approach something. So with the Wamola, even
though there are tons of possibilities with it, I would
say musically there are limits. But Less is doing a
lot of different things, particularly in this track, that are
not necessarily melodic. But he's finally finding excuse me, different
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things to do with this instrument. So it's not just
a one a one trick pony. I suppose you can.
You can do a lot with it, even with one
string and a crank. I wanted to play a bit
more of the instrumentation because something's dawning on me. I
think as as we talk about it, Wow, I love
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that break. First of all, that's my favorite part of
the song. Bully Does, Bully Does. He's doing that old
guy voice, which I very much enjoy. I think what's
happening here is he's establishing a soundscape that's not necessarily dark,
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but very woodsy and earthy. It seems to fit that
mushroom motif. So we've got the mushroom motif and the
forthcoming Bore motif, but both of them largely are out
in the wilderness, so it kind of has that woodsy
feel to it to a degree. And that could be
the power of suggestion because this started with the Mushroom
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Man game. But I do think he's capturing something here,
And I wrote in my notes Frankie Primus gave us
the Brown album. Twelve years later, Les Claypool gave us
the Ground Album. It's Twigs, Duff Soil Detritus. So it's
kind of like, you know, this song does transport me
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to the woods of southern Oregon. As I am running
around looking for Morel's in the springtime or looking for
Chantrelle's in the mountain woods in the early autumn. There
is something there. I'm I'm feeling a connection. And of
course there are elements of this that are catchy, and
so there's there's something to it. I don't know that
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it holds me all the way through the song, but
there are moments that I do like, I bet the
next time I go walking the dogs, I'm still gonna
go and just mess around with that sound. Now, of
course we're talking about the first track on the record,
But where does this rank for you on the record?
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Is this for you one of the stronger tunes or
catchier tunes that holds your interest?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yes, it is, I think one of the better songs
on the record. It sets it sets a tone, it's
quite it's quite a compelling way to start the record,
and I like how it It's a really odd song
(20:05):
for me because if you read the lyrics on paper,
they read fairly extensive, yet when you listen to the song,
it manages to sound sparse. The lyrics come and go,
and when Less is doing that vocalization that you have highlighted.
I've often wonder if that washing noise is his voice
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or if it's some kind of instrument.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, I'm not entirely sure what he's doing there. If
he's putting his voice through the envelope filter or something
like that and messing with it, very well, could be
that that's what he's doing, pairing it with wemla, you know,
kind of filtering his voice too, And I think that's
also kind of what gives it that ground woodsy feeling. Yes,
(20:54):
like you know, the voice is bubbling up to the
surface like three park type thing. Yes, Yes, like that
very much. So, you know, don't be hasty. He's an
end or something. Speaking of those lyrics, I mentioned that
they're a bit different. You know, there's no cautionary tail here.
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There is the warning don't touch the amanitas. Look out
for amanitas. For those of you unfamiliar, amanitas are very
attractive mushrooms. They have a white stock with a red
top and those white spots on them. Many of them
are poisonous, bad for you. Stay away. As pretty as
they are, just don't touch them. The belitas are well
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regarded in the culinary world and used for all kinds
of fancy cooking. I would put them on the same
level with Moreles myself. Morell's are my top mushroom Yeah,
so these are a bit different. On the lyrical side, Frankie,
we have this first stanza of you may see horses
try to fly a dog with periwinkle eyes, but peppered
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earth with chunks of sky. Now there's a sight worth seeing.
So we're already into nature. I suppose, you know, if
we're talking woodsy when sod gets moist with dewey flow
and the fungus spores they start to show, and if
you're sharpen in the dough, you may spy a different being.
So he's hinting at something there. You're willing to see
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something out in the woods when you're out hunting for
for mushrooms. The next stands is my favorite because I
have a personal connection to it, he says. I lean
my head on a window pane and stare out cat
eyed through the rain, and though the dims an awful strain,
I think I've seen a mushroom man. So he's doing
two things there. He's bringing the mushroom men imagery all
the way back, and so we're dealing with some kind
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of mythical being that he thinks he sees through the window,
you know, through the rain. I have to say, Frankie,
this takes me back to being a kid. There's no
better feeling in the middle of winter, when the heater
is raging and I'm really warm inside the house. There's
no better feeling than to pull up the curtain and
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put my forehead against the window because it is ice cold,
and it cools me down right away.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
All Right.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I did that a lot when I was a child.
I don't think my parents kept the house too warm,
but I would get hot and just press my forehead
against one of the windows. Such a relief. So when
I reread these lyrics, it took me back to those
moments when I would do that. Then we get that
break with Belitas and Amanitas, and then we get a
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really interesting piece with be it seven Sons or seven
trout Trout. Yeah, I came to see with throbbing doubt,
throbbing doubt, Frankie throbbing the fun guy as they pranced about.
So we're seeing the dancing mushrooms again or the anthem
mushroom mushrooms. The seven Sons are seven Trout interesting idea.
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I seven sons, I think of seven sons for seven daughters.
There's some mythical things around seven seven sons. Uh, of course.
Then I go to Iron Maiden, seventh son of a
seventh son. I don't know if that's what he's invoking,
but seven sons are seven trout is a funny line
to me. But once again, this is not a cautionary tale.
This is like a series of vignettes which we've seen before,
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but it's not the usual fair and this is very
It seems like a series of observations more than anything else.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yes, yeah, he's just making He's just making the listener
established mental images about the characters and the the atmosphere
of the songs on the record.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Right, yeah, yeah, you're gonna see a lot of wild
stuff out here. But if you see a mushroom man,
you're hallucinating. I think is the idea here? Uh you know,
Jacko Loobe's eating bacon. I love it. It's time to
get your glasses checked. Oh okay, I've gone too far.
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The lyrics do speak to me to a degree, really
great imagery staring cat eyed through the rain. It's just,
you know, as a whole I'm just it's not a
full sale yet, but maybe it'll get there as we
get through these episodes. Great, we've talked about it enough.
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It's time for other people to talk about it. Frankie.
It's Primates takes that is the universal constant over there
at patreon dot com, forward slash Primus tracks go check
it out. Of course, if you want your take on
the track up for discussion, read right here in the podcast.
That's the place to do it. We do have some
Primates takes for Mushroom Men, Frankie. Now, I hope that
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my commentary in our preview episode is not influencing the
thought process of our primates and Primatrons and anybody else
listening to this album. We're coming back to this album.
My experience is mine. It doesn't have to be yours.
It doesn't have to color your experience or influence you
in any way. But I did have a feeling we'd
get a mixed bag on the takes, so let's get
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to them. Skullgan Val says, I love the vibes and
the sound. The lyrics really conjure something for me. If
I'm sharp and in the know, I may spy a
different being that sounds amazing or maybe scary. Keep the
animal and nature imagery coming, please, And that's a fascinating
idea because we don't get a lot of straight up
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nature and animal imagery in less Claypool lyrics, so that
is a bit of a departure. Val also mentioned that
nature imagery is rapidly disappearing from our literature, Whereas you know,
hundred years ago, especially nature imagery took up a lot
of real estate in novels and books, and it just
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takes up a lot less space now. So maybe we're
losing that connection in many different ways, and that could
be one of them. Also, when I'm doing certain units
for my students Frankie, and we get into nature and
imagery and read some especially poems, there's a lot of groaning.
All Right, we're gonna make it more true to life.
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So I take them outside and just have them do
different observation exercises, you know, prep them with a task
or a certain thing that they're looking for or listening for,
and then they're doing some writing and then they can
appreciate it. Moving on, Mickey Waters says, love the percussion
definitely sets the tone for the record. I thought the
Wimola was pretty rad at the time, but sadly the
novelty has worn thin for me. Well, don't worry, mickey,
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they never play these tracks live. Marcus Meyl says, the
only album in the catalog I just can't get into
at all. Wow, that was my worry that we'd be
hitting the nator point for a lot.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Of people getting savage in here.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
On the other side of things, our resident curmudgeon Eric
and Australia has turned that frown upside down, and he says,
I've been through the album a bunch of times recently
and I'm loving the dark vibe revisited. This jam sets
the tone perfectly, plenty of jazz dad lest His vocal
delivery on this song and across the album is fantastically
varied and waits the in. That's what this album has done.
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Frankie has turned Eric into the nicest guy on the block.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Thank you, Fung Guy and Foe.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Defying expectations everywhere it goes. John Shreef says a wemmel
a showcase with a heavy dose of Mike Dylan, I'm
here for it. Well, that's what you're getting live John
and Matt Ray says, I filed this under oh good
less he's doing something but no, thanks. Wow, you're not
taking this personally, are you?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Okay? Good? Well, now it's time for Frankie's favorite part
of the podcast, Live.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Cuts from vehicle.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Live cuts for the Jam vehicle live.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Cut what's going on here?
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I'll tell you what's going on here, does embodied voice
of Tim Soyer. It's live cuts of mushroom Men. Frankie
has a couple today. One is from May twenty third,
two thousand and nine. The other is from March twenty six,
two thousand and nine. I would imagine both of these
are available on toaster Land for anybody interested. Yes, they
are excellent. So May twenty third, two thousand and nine
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is from summer camp in Chillicot, Illinois. Wow, this checks
in at a scant three minutes and thirty seven seconds,
probably because the drums are moved to a separate track exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Let's hear it in olds Glory.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Oh I heard Mike d Yeah, sounds faithful to the
record there. Well, he's delivering that vocal with great panage. Yes,
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and then it sounds like we get some drums after that.
I shouldn't have paused it. Our next life cut is
from Frankie's fictional bonus tracks for the Funkynfo thirtieth anniversary pressing,
which will be out in the mere fourteen years, which
might be the next time I listen to this record. Frankie.
This is from March twenty six, two thousand and nine.
(31:09):
I don't have a location on this, but it's readily
available over on toaster. So this is where we get
to hear the amplified outro and this track six minutes
and twelve seconds. Nice pulse. Yeah, there you go, Paulo
(32:33):
and Mike d giving him something to chew on. That's
cool stuff. I like that that is open for them
to fill that space and let it rip after having,
of course, to be very disciplined on percussion throughout that yes,
and limited I suppose throughout that track, because they have
to serve its intention. Then they get to let it go. Well,
(32:56):
mushroom Men, I don't actually see you because I'm clearly hallucinating,
but I can tell you that you've been tracked. That's
all I've got for this one. Frankie parting thoughts on
mushroom Men.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Compelling opening track, not what you would expect on a
list album. Like you mentioned, there's no lush, atmospheric instrumentals.
He goes right into song number one, and I think
it'll always be a curious little number on a forgotten record.
(33:34):
Very fun song to listen to.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I think, like a fungus, this might grow on me.
We'll find out. I'm certainly more receptive now than I
was in two thousand and nine, and I'm looking for
those little things. Will I go listen to mushroom Men
again as soon as we say goodbye? Probably not, but
I'm more likely to primates, primatrons, people of earth. Thank
(33:59):
you also much for listen. We'll talk to you next time.
Later days with a maze Jackson, It's time begins a
glass of ja
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