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Speaker 1 (00:02):
So right now we've on the Pro Wrestling Enforcer twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
One of our first guests here join us.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
On Zoom is from North Carolina Pro Wrestling Handsome Nick
Hamrick on the PW Report and also join us as
his manager, A Dick Vickers here on the show, and
they are here to talk about what they've got cooking
for twenty twenty five. They've been wrestling around that area.
They have been gaining exposure with OBW Wrestling as well,
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and so we welcomed them back. We'll welcome them here
for the first time on the PWE Report and also
for Nick, he was just in the Nightmare Rumble lasting
over thirty minutes, so we'll talk about that because that's
an incredible feat for any athlete to put themselves through
as well, and we welcome them both on the PW Report. Nick,
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welcome on of course, and of course mister hey, Dick Vickers,
welcome on pwport as well.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
How you both doing today?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, thank you doing good doing great man for having us, Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
No problem, it's my pleasure. I wanted to just talk
about professional wrestling as a lifestyle, you know, and I'm
glad you guys are doing well and it looked like
you're you guys are definitely in shape for a big year.
But when you talk about the lifestyle, how much has
it benefited you in your life?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, I'll take this one first. It's benefited me greatly.
I mean we, uh we set out a plan about
five years ago and we're just hitting year five and
so we're on course for that plan. And the trajectory is,
you know, we still believe the best is yet to come,
and uh so we're excited for that. But I mean,
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so as far as you know, the money comes, right,
the money comes when you get signed, and then we're
not there. We haven't reaped those benefits yet. We've gotten
tons of benefit is from you know, local sponsors, from
you know, hall of famers in the business, and and
then you know, this lifestyle has allowed me to meet
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a beautiful woman that is now my girlfriend. And life
has just been great the past year. I mean, know
you're on there is tremendous sacrifices and sometimes it is
very frustrating and you you just want to scream. But
at the same time, if this business is in you,
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like if you were born to do this, you have
nowhere to run. This is who you are. You just
embrace it and take the good with the bad and the.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Ugly for sure. For sure. And that's that's that's a
great answer.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I mean, it seems like you've not to just not
only dedicate yourself inside the ring or at training, but
outside of the ring as well. It's just so many
hours you have in the day and you have to
dedicate you know a good portion of that to this business.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Oh yeah, and I'm sure Ada can contest to this.
I mean, I have a son, so balancing you know,
personal life and wrestling, it becomes incredibly hard. And I know,
you know, he's you know, got family and uh, you know,
people at home that they care about him tremendously, and
it gets gets very hectic when every weekend you got shows.
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During the week, you're trying to do promos, you're trying
to do podcasts, you're trying to train, you're you're putting
together ideas, and it just you really have to have
a great support system at home to balance that and
people who understand that that this is.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Your definitely, and uh, I appreciate you guys, you know,
giving you that insight.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Uh, talk about being a manager.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
If you can, uh for a bit for for Nick Hemrick,
how exciting is this? But also how kind of like
how do you how do you manage like the crowds
and the interactions as well.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I mean it's it's a tough balance because with the crowds,
don't want to spend too much time with them. You know,
they're trying to heckle you in uh, in your face
a lot of times. Some of them want to be
part of the show too, But it is exciting to
try to you know, good product. I like the old
Sile Hills, I love Gary Hart, I love you know,
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Jim Cornett, a lot of those managers because I feel
like we bring like that old style to that. I
feel like it's more, you know, an old style wrestlers.
So having a manager fits that really well. I mean
it's something I enjoy. I think that it really adds
something to that because it's not every day that you
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have a manager with a wrestler, especially one that's decently good.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
For sure, like talk about that key role it's missing
today from pro wrestling for the most part.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Yeah, I was trying to think of like where the
drop off of the managers were, because you know, they
were a big part in the eighties and going into
the nineties, and it seems like into the the odds
there's really haven't been that many managers. There's there's some
now in a.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
A W n W.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
There's just trying to bringing it back a little bit,
but not like it was, you know, in the seventies
and the eighties for sure.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And you and you manage any other professional wrestlers at
this point or no, just Nick, Okay, that's that's that's it.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Should I takes up It takes up all my I
don't have time to do anybody else, and that takes
up all my time to manage Nick.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yes, for sure, they keep him busy.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And like when you when you go back and you
just look at the OBW, Nightmare rubble like moments like these,
do you have time to like, oh, I can you know,
go back and remember it because it just seems like
it's always about the next moment, with the next match,
the next show. So do you ever get to like
small the flowers and just like oh, you know, I
get to you know, remember this and take it in.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, I mean you try, you got to. I mean
that that was a big deal. That was my first
ever pay per view and you know, I tell a Dick,
I said, it's pretty cool. Last year, you know, the
first show of the year was you know, an independent
promotion in Ohio. You know, it was a great show,
don't get wrong, but you want to keep the trajectory,
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like I said, upward and onward. And you know, now
this year, the first show of the year is of
pay per view, and and I really didn't know what
to expect. There's so much great talent at OVW and uh,
you know, they're pulling wrestlers from you know, NBA Exodus,
from EC three's group, so there's just a lot of
competition there. And so luckily, you know, the opportunities they've
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given me, I've been able to do well with. Yes,
I try to stay humble. You know, it's a dog business,
and I've been there. I've been in so many places
to where I think I know what I'm doing and
then the script got flipped, changed it last minute, and
and that's a challenge. But you try to rise to
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those challenges. So when I came there and to be
able to last thirty five minutes with those guys, you know,
it showed me. Yeah, I can definitely go with the
best of them. And you know, I do have this
weekend off. It's probably my last weekend off for a
long time. Several weeks. It has been nice to kind
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of just walk around and I was like, man, yeah
I really did that. Yeah almost won.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I think I was like one of the last eight
competitors in there, so we had a shot.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. I feel like that's that's what rest
was need to do.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Is just like you know, small the roads that say,
oh I get to watch and you know, relive you
know some of this stuff like that exut with that
that was actually on YouTube, so it wasn't like recorded
and you don't know when's coming out.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
It was I mean, not YouTube, but pay per view.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Like you said, the thing is that, you know, there's
no off season in the sport. You know, it's not
like football and baseball, and like I know, things slowed
down around the holidays. But like me and a Dick
have made it our goal to like we we don't
we don't have an off period. And I remember he
had a you know, he tries to go to most
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of the shows with me, but there there was a
couple of weeks where he couldn't make it, and uh,
he was like, I don't know about you, but I'm
I'm right. For a couple of weeks, off dragged me
all over. So I mean this nature of this business,
I mean, you're just all over everywhere and it gets tiring.
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There's very many checkpoints to stop and smell the roses.
So this one was nice for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And then I want to ask you Nick about how
much you enjoy your interaction with the fan. It's like,
is there a particular memorable situations and how much do
you feel like you've get It's like kind of like
improv you're kind of, you know, playing off of each other.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Right, No, for sure.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I mean there is the North crowd versus the South
of the United States are completely different wrestling crowds. And
I always find it really really fun because I'm based
in the South, you know, it's where most of my
audience is. But when I get to go up north,
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like Delaware or Pennsylvania or even you know, we got
to go to d C a few weeks ago. The
fans there, man, they they heckle you. They really lay
it in. It is you know, I don't know how
it is in Chicago. I haven't had the pleasure of
being there many. They get into it and they don't
hold back. It's kind of your E c W crowd,
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And so I remember there's just one specific time I'm
getting ready to take this, you know, hometown hero guy
in Dela where and DDT is leg And I can't
remember exactly what the person yelled, but they have been
getting to me all match.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I normally don't cuss in the ring, you know, it's
just kind of like I don't have to, right, It's
just there's plenty of other material there that the audience,
the opponent gives you. And I just looked square at him.
I don't know if allow to say that. I just
looked right. Yeah, man, you you could have heard a
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pin drop after that. Everybody in the building just the
air got sucked out like that. You know, sometimes you
got to let the fans know this is my building,
this is my stage.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I'm in control.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
But he's the one with the stories. Man, he's on
the outsides, in and out soap and getting it thrown
back at him.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Soties than I do.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, you can tell us any memorable situations, uh, involving
you and the fans go ahead.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I mean I was for a while. I did have
like the the hotel soaps, and I would like throw
them out and they would throw them back. I mean,
it's just good, like little heat break the ice with them.
I don't know that there's a lot they've just yelled,
come at me. More so like little kids will definitely
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get into it and just yell and try to like
you see, like their dad's or you know, try to
hold them back a little bit. I've given you know,
typical stuff like counterfeit money to it. Well, I guess
take money to them, and they've tried to go to
the concession stand and buy food with it and been
told not to. Some guy apparently used it at a
speedway at a gas station and he said he wanted
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to beat me up because I guest he was. He
almost went to jail because of me that I gave
him a faith hunderdogar deal. But they looked like, I
don't know, they look pretty good.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Oh like the ship.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
But yeah, I can at least says copy on the back,
real small.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
But yeah, he was not too happy. I don't think
I've seen him, and I don't know. There's one guy
this one in Ohio. He really really loves Nick and
he makes it known and he gets in our fades
every time, and it's just kind of like his wife
has to be like, hey, you know, you can calm
down just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
That's that's great, that's great.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
But no, no, no, like No Harry situations where they
kind of try to get past the guardrail hopefully.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, there was, yeah, early in my career. Early in
my career, I was in see Logan maybe Chapmanville, West Virginia.
It was southern West Virginia, and I was leaving the
venue and I was on my way to the vehicle
and a man reached in and literally grabbed my nipples
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so hard and tried to rip it off, and then
I really it was gone, like I I And it
was one of the moments where I'm you know, going
through a bunch of people. There was a lot of people,
and you know, I just felt somebody grab at me
and you know, gang and pull and it hurt like hell,
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and I just shoved it off and just kept going
to my car and got to my car and looked
at my chest all that I was bleed a little bit,
but it was still there. It was like i'd I'd
be known as the restler, you know, one nipple wrestler.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
You know. Then, I still don't know why you didn't
like him giving you a nipple twister you know.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
You never seen before or since. And yeah he was pissed.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Off there, right, And so you know, what are your
thoughts on your opponents coming up in your upcoming matches
and you have any like weaknesses you feel like you
can exploit from them?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Oh for sure. I mean my style of wrestling, it
doesn't matter who I step in the ring with, whether
you're you know, eight feet tall and you know five
hundred pounds, I'm going for your legs. You know I'm
going to finish you off with a figure four leg lock.
I mean it's a move that has been has won
so many matches and so historic that you know, I'm
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a student of the game. So that was number one
since I was a kid, that was going to be
my finisher, because anytime I was ever in a battle
with somebody bigger than me, you go for their legs.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
As far as my other style, you know, I can't
be a high flyer. In fact, if you look behind me,
I've got the super h title for a Macy here,
which is super high Flying Championship. You wouldn't think that
of me because I do bring kind of a Rick
Rude Rick Flair style to the ring. But you know,
just like Steiner can do a Frankenstein, you know I
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can do a Hert Karana. I do drop kick off
the top rope, and that one is really my secret weapon.
I mean it's won me a lot of matches. Yeah,
in there with a lot of fast paced, high flying
pound for pound wrestlers, and you know, if I get
the opportunity to hit that, yeah, I honestly, I don't
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think anybody has kicked out from it yet. If yeah,
I don't think anybody's kicked out from me yet. I
think the what's happened is, you know, they might have
bypassed me, or I might have missed it and I
hit it. They're going down right. Yeah, Well that's cool.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
And I'm sure as a wrestler you are always trying
to add more moves to your repertoire.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Do you ever see stuff like it? Maybe on TV?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
You're like, oh, I can't you know, I'd maybe like
to add that in or add my own twist to it.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
You know, oh absolutely. I mean, I mean just the
other day I was sending they Dick some footage of
things and you and and social media is great now
because we get all these reels and you know, you
you got guys that are training. You know, they're not
even like this isn't it's not like they're stealing something.
They're just training videos and they're you know, basically sharing
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it with the world.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
The rest of the community is great for that. Yeah,
twenty twenty five, I've kind of retweaked my whole move set.
Everything is still original, it's there that I do, but
it's amplified. It's more it's been tweaked and honed a
little bit more to be more devastation.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And you've had some seminars with some notable wrestlers like
Jay Chris. I know you had a match of him.
So talk about you know, gaining the ring with these
guys and and you know, learning from them in that
in that whole process.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, I mean, Jake, Chris Rhino, I've been had a
pleasure being the EC three's couple of times. And I
tell you what, you know, you go to training and
you work on the foundation and wrestling and whatever school
you start out. But I have really seen that seminars
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throughout your training kind of help refresh, retweak, because the
seminars I've been to, you know, four or five hours long.
It's a full day of just you're getting slammed, you're
doing drills, and so when I've done it, I usually
take away two or three points from what they're actually
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speaking about behind the scenes, and then I usually i'd
say about three or four things get you know, attributes
get increased throughout that workout, So that whole next week,
that next month very beneficial. You just feel like you're
more energized or quicker when your reaction time, your mental gain,
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you're remembering things better, So very beneficial for sure. He
got guys like that teaching. I mean EC three Rhino.
I know, I'm leaving out a couple.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Nice nice and then you feel like that might lead
to some opportunities one day, you know, working a TV
match if you haven't done that already, like you know,
like for like a BYO company like TNA or w
A W.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, I mean that's how you how you get into right,
So you've got to have that foundation. You got to
have that and of course those guys will it depends
how much talent you've got. They'll see all this guy's
got talent, you know, they can work with him and
mold him. But then you guys got you got guys
that have been in the industry, you know, ten years
or so, have you know, basically everything you want and need,
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they're ready to go. They still haven't got that shot.
And a lot of times it's because they have been
in the right place, right time, in front of the
right eyes. And so that's what we've consistently been working
on this past year, is putting ourselves in the right
in front of the right eyes. And sure it's not
just if they want to give you an opportunity or
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can catapult you to, you know, an opportunity. It's also
to the sheer facts of like, man, this guy respected me,
this guy thought I was good, this guy like would
like to wrestle me, or wish he could have that.
That'll give you enough fuel to get through the whole
next year. Yeah, it really means a lot when you
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have the respect of your peers, especially guys that came
before you.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Definitely, or mister hey Dick Vickers talk about how is
it like if if Nick Hamrick is working a wrestler
or and and that wrestler has enough a manager with them,
So how how does that dynamic change for you? Do
you prefer that way or do you not prefer to
have someone else on the opposite.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
It does make it different, makes my job a lot
harder because I can't get away with everything I want
to get away with. You know, I can't bend the
rules as much with somebody else on the other side.
It doesn't happen too often. I have to say, to
give me really that experience with somebody with another manager,
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But I mean I can't. I know that they're not
going to be as good as me, you know, be
cocky with it. They're not going to be you know,
a dig victors. There's not you know, I can't I unfortunately,
you know, a lot less cheating. I have to interact
with them, you know, maybe you know, try to get
my shots on them, or you know, sneak up behind them,
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take advantage of that, you know, because I'm fine, I'm
really fine with them and the ref then you know,
I've got another set of eyes on me.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, for sure, I'd like to see you interact with
someone like Frank the Clown.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I'm not going to him, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
I'm trying to get Nick in an angle with them
so we can get Bill a Fonso.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I like to work with him, all right, He's manages
a couple of wrestlers recently.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Right then, you've worked with a couple of them in.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
The d.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Okay, so definitely, I hope that happens for you. Then yeah,
and and then did you do you like anticipate like
something happening across the match or like maybe you know
the situation get.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
For him, he'll stay out of the way, Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
For sure. Sure.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And then I wanted to talk about you know, how
much you know you have to believe in yourself as this,
you know, the character, like it becomes like a part
of you, like you know, even if you have a
bad day at work or you have you know, things
aren't going your way in another parts of life. You've
got to go out there and you've got to be
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handsome Nick Hamrick, and you have to be cocky and
you have to have that confidence no matter what, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, I think it was it was more difficult in
the first couple of years because my character who I am.
It really is who I am turned up to a thousand.
It's it's not like I just looked through a comic
book and you know, let's try to figure out something
what will work in today's day and age. Now, I
didn't give a shit, like this is me since who
I've always been, and I got to a certain age
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where it's like you just don't care anymore. You just
like screw this. And so when I finally decided to
like go after wrestling and do it, I kind of
had some matureness of the real world. I you know,
started kind of late. You know, I didn't start wrestling
I'm almost thirty or I'm just turned thirty four five
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years now, so I was twenty nine. But at the
same time, like when I got into it, I know,
it's like a lot of people were intimidate by I
mean and believe me, I was not the bee's knees.
I was not something great, and I had almost no
muscle on me. Uh you know, my hair was short.
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Just there were so many different things that became handsome,
the camerck and the product of what it is today
that weren't there. But yet I think a lot of
wrestlers when they're starting out, they deal with the same thing.
They something in them that others can see that they
were born to do this.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
This is.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
And you can't duplicate that. So like, yes, you can
get the great places and work hard and become great
things due to that. But at the same time, like
we had a lot of politics and very beginning from
local promoters and things like that, and I think that happens.
The more I've branched out and talked to wrestlers across
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the nation, I've realized that happens a lot in all
these local areas. You know, these rest are starting out,
they're getting not the chance, not the opportunity, and it's
usually because the ones above them noticed something in them
that is good they could take the spot. And for me,
in the beginning, that was really hard, like I couldn't
like understand like why things weren't happening. And then I realized, ma'am,
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screw it. I'm going to do it my way and
I don't care who's toes that step one or you
know who I disrespect. You know, if they don't like it,
then they don't like it. And once we started doing that, man,
they started opening up, doors start opening up, and then
that allowed us to really stretch our legs and become
who we wanted to be and like evolved the brand,
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evolve the product into what it is. It's like there
was a lot of things there early on that didn't
become what it is today, and it only happened through
trial and error. Right, this works here, that work doesn't
work because the answer your question, wrap it up. That
all comes to full circle. Now I am who I am.
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I know who I am. I'm confident I wake up
every day and join who I am right, And the
early years, it wasn't like that. Man, it was a
lot of I don't know if I can do this.
You know, like this is imagine if you always believe
you were somebody m and now reality is starting to
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make you feel like you're not like it was all
and that'll really screw you up in the mind. But
at the same time, you can't quit. You got to
you got to push through that, and we had a plan.
We're going to see it through. And because of that,
I no longer feel that way. You know, there's still
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days where you get banged up, you had a bad day,
but damn it I'm handsome, Nick Camerrick. I'm a professional
wrestler and at the end of the day, I could die.
But that is pretty freaking awesome. Definitely got wond your seatbelt.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
But like, I think what they say like to me too.
In the beginning, it was a lot, well should I
do this? I don't want to make somebody mad if
I do this. You know, I have this idea for something.
Should I do it? You know, what if they don't
like it? What if they you know, get I don't
want to make somebody matt. I don't want to make
it from brunum bad. But now it's just like, well,
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I'm gonna do it, and then I'm gonna keep doing
it until somebody I don't like it. I like this idea.
I'm gonna do it until somebody tells me to stop
doing it. You know, if they don't like it, they
need to tell me, because I'm gonna do it. I
just have that confidence, like, well, I'm going to do
it this way. If they don't like it, then come
up to me and say, hey, I don't like It's
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not that I'm like, you know, doing something outrageous, but
you know, trying different things or you know, like handing
out the show by third wearing a wig. You know,
if somebody says, hey, this isn't working, I'll stop doing it.
To me, I find all that funny. But you know
I have that, you know, that confidence to if it's
not working, somebody will tell me, you know for.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Sure, definitely, And and so fans that I want to
follow your career, let's say that, how many times are
you wrestling every week?
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah? Pretty much. I mean this past year we did
close to ninety shows, eighty eight or so, and there
was actually quite a bit. There was like fifteen of
them that were canceled, so we have probably been over
one hundred. And I actually thought we booked less than
last year, but we booked about the same. Okay, Yeah,
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and this year we've already got i think without our
home promotions, the ones we do in our local state,
there's three of those. We've got already about twenty five
on the books. And you know, usually I can kind
of gauge how the year is going to go from
that based on last year. At this point, I mean,
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we should probably have over one hundred this year, so
it's exciting for sure.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
And then any special opponents you're looking forward to facing
that you have scheduled, you can.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
We've got some big shows coming up. I'll get to
the opponents. Here'shrely the shows. I mean, we're going to
be wrestling in South Carolina for the first time this year.
Old School Championship Wrestling. They're a pretty nice promotion that
has a lot of big shows there. I know, they
do shows on the beach. And of course we're going
(29:00):
to be working with n WA Exodus Promotion in Cleveland.
That's the one we're most excited about because the NWA
is it for us. That is our main goal, and
twenty is the year that we're We're already on their radar.
We're already wrestling all their talent. We just keep circling
(29:22):
the wagons until until they let us in.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
But as far as big opponents, yeah, one in particular.
He you know, I do have a lot of big
opponents coming up, but this guy is probably the one
that's right in front of me, right, It's the one
coming up the closest, and it's all Shane Douglas, the franchise,
(29:48):
I know, you know, he's a legend and you know,
probably a future Hall of Famer and all that. But
at the same time, we have a we have a
faction called the Franchise Players and out of a c
W in uh West Virginia. And he's been the leader
(30:08):
of the group for a long time. Okay, too long
if you ask me. Let's just say that come twenty
twenty five, this year, this summer, this spring, this is
my year. This is not his year. Yeah, we're done
with sh Okay.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
You can no longer build a franchise upon it. If
you're going to build a franchise, it'd be on somebody
like Nick Camerck, not Shane Douglas. He's a what was
it legacy? You know, he's a legacy. Now, you don't
build upon a franchise like with Shane Douglass. It's with
I got Nick Hamrick.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Okay, well, I'm very excited to see that match and
how that will unfold as well. It's uh, you know,
Shane Douglas is Russell for every promotion and you know
that we could think of right, yeah, I mean we've.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Been for a while now, but that's changed. Okay, it's
time for a new shriff.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Well, that's that's exciting that that's a that's a big,
a big time matchup for you. And when you when
you you know, find out you're wrestling these these names
like Shane Douglas, do you feel like, oh wow, like
I can't wait to get in there. But just like
you know, I used to watch him when I was younger,
when I was a kid. Does that ever across your mind,
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like these are big names, big heroes.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, and you know, I've really had the pleasure of
and you know, to be able to work with a
lot of them, it does. It seems a little surreal
when you're in the ring. I remember I was in
the ring with Mean and I was just like, holy shit,
this is mean, you know what I mean, Like, I
(31:53):
just I'm like, I hope to god I survived this match.
He's probably the only guy I was a little bit
scared everybody else. You know, I'm handsome, Nick Camrick, I
can handle myself. I got a dick in my corner,
but meing, I was a little intimidated, and I really
hope I don't see him out afterwards.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
If I beat him, Okay, that's fair enough.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
And then you know, talking about like when you're done
with the match, how do you gauge your success? In
professional wrestling. Is it like the reception of the match
after or the fans like or kind of like people
giving you thumbs up in the locker room.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
It's a it's a combination. I mean, it's a bunch
of things, right, So like, because not every crowd is
the same. I have five star matches between a couple
of NWA guys in front of a ship crowd that
was a fair crowd that knew nothing about wrestling and
didn't appreciate it, just you know, was quiet, and you know,
(32:55):
it's like, I know, that was the hell of a match.
So you can't just go off the fans that one
singular thing alone. But at the same time, I mean,
you hear that bell or you hit the spot, and
you hear the pop. I mean that pop is the
one thing that doesn't lie. So like, you know, you
can get a huge pop in reaction and have somebody
(33:17):
in the back and you know, piss on it or
not like it, and it's right, no, man, do you
hear those that crowd they loved it. And that's also
worked the opposite way. There's been some things I didn't appreciate.
I was like, that's stupid, But I ain't worked. So
now it's the fans. It's the feeling you get. For instance.
(33:39):
Uh you know, I know there's been matches that I've
just I've been I'm beat up, I'm hurt. I'm not
like injured, but I'm just sore. And I know I
gave it everything, like I left it all out there, right,
And I don't have to watch the footage. I don't
I don't have to hear the pop you know, because
(34:01):
sometimes as a wrestler, we're trained to listen to the crowd,
but also too there's a lot going on and you
can kind of lose the crowd a little bit. Uh huh.
I think when that happens, you just kind of got
to feel it, you know, know it, Like, man, that
was a hell of a match. I know it. Nobody
(34:23):
can't tell me that, you know. I Flair didn't have
to watch his matches. He could tell right by the
way it felt. So I think it's a combination.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Okay, that's great, but it's also good rewarding when you
have like a fan come up to you, Hey, I
love your match, and maybe buy some merch you.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Know, oh yeah, my favorite.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Aea my favorites when they always come up to and
be like, hey, I'm not supposed to tell you, but
I liked what you did. You know, like I'm supposed
to hate you, but I really like what you did
out there.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
That's that's all.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
It's my favorite because they bring you, like in real close,
like they're going to tell you a big secret, and
that's just like I liked what you did, and it's like,
oh you could you know, told me perfectly fine anywhere,
but you had to bring me to this corner and
get real close.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
To me and be like, I like, jet's definitely. And
then when you look at, uh, you know, what's what's
up on the horizon for this year? You know where
would you like to be a year from now.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
A year from now? Yeah, wrestling lines, there's no for me.
I mean, I am Look, everybody says things like this.
And then if all the next question is what if
WW comes to you with a contract, would you turn
it down? Well, I mean, honestly, probably not, because we
got to eat right. We know what it would do
(35:52):
for a career. But at the same time, that's not
my goal. That's not where I want to be. M
I bring an old school feel to it and from
the time I was a little boy watching wrestling. That's
all I ever cared about. Even when they were you know,
in their lower end years and not as popular. I
was still an NBA guy and just to have my
(36:14):
name in history books, whether it's an idol or just
you know, in matches alongside some of the grades. It's
just to me that's it's real then, right, you know,
and his businesses choreographed and and really you know, kind
of lost that old art of old school you know,
(36:37):
real wrestling, real sport, real athleticism. It doesn't get any
more real to me than that.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yes, yeah, Tom, Tom latimer Is is definitely embodies everything
you say.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, yeah, Thomas Great met him a couple of months ago,
and he, uh, he likes my selling. He liked it.
I try to. That's probably I tell people like I
got punch kick and I got a sale. That's what
I got. And I kid I got way more than that.
But right, Tom was like, can you do the Shawn Michaels.
(37:15):
You know, we were doing the thing or going buckle
to buckle to buckle. In the last buckle, you wanted
me to springboard off the bottom rope and flip over backwards.
And I did it and he's like, yes, watch more
Shawn Michaels impression.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah. And we have an n w A Chicago as well.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
That's another territory, so would be cool to see you
get that come up here as well.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, I definitely like to get out to the Windy City.
This year, we have added many more states to the schedule.
I think I was at eight states. I think now,
you know, god willing, at the end of twenty twenty
five will be up to eleven. So we got three
new states added. Okay, but yeah, we're trying to get
out there. It's just slowly but surely, day in day out,
(38:11):
we're starting to make a name. People know I go
to place, Oh yeah, I know you have sen Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
So I mean the best way for us to get
out there is the people say, hey, we want to
see handsome Nick and a Dick Vickers at the show.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
You know, that's the best way.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Let's say, hey, I like what you're doing, but it
could be better with a Dick and handsome Nick hammerck here.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Okay, Well, we'll definitely plug you guys, h yeah on
my social media and uh and see what happens. We
we definitely love to see you guys up here in Chicago,
and I'm sure even and even beyond Chicago as well.
You do you ever think about going over these or
any any opportunities like that.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah, we're working on something right now for Japan. Okay
Canada has been in the works for several months, almost
a year now. It just there's two promotions that do
a weekend event together and and last year something happened
with one of the promotions, but basically they make a
(39:17):
whole weekend out of it and the three shows. So
I do know that that is on the horizon for
this year to go international with Canada. I just don't
know when yet. I think it would be in summertime
and Japan. We are personally planning a trip to Japan
(39:38):
in the summertime, Okay was to orchestrate a booking of
some sort over there with them, because that's that's every
wrestler's dream, Yes, Japan, that is just huge, even if
it was a one off match, And and I know
that tons of wrestlers have you know, trained hard and
been in dojo's and there's a long online so you know,
(40:02):
I'd be incredibly lucky if that were to happen, but
you know, you don't know until you as right, right,
I got a couple of connections there, so hopefully something
can happen.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yes, yes, I actually uh do do you know I'm
an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I'll message you about.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
It later, Okay, yeah, awesome.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
It happens to be some media connective mind and and
that's had that she's had me on her show and
uh so I'll I'll see.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
If it's in, if it's close to you, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, yeah, I can't wait to see you neck and
uh you know. Lastly, what are you grateful for most
this year of twenty twenty five?
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Grateful for this year other than my son? I got
a six year old son. He is my world. I
would probably have to say my health. I mean this business,
to be able to do it week in and week out,
and longevity and you know, being thirty four, like, I'm
(41:08):
not slowing down. I don't plan to retire. I mean,
I'm just getting started. As long as the trajectory is
going upward and onward. And if I were to make
it to the NWA, I don't think I look back.
But it's definitely every match, every week, every month, I
get out, you know, without a catastrophic injury. And what
(41:28):
I mean by that is like something keep me out
of action six weeks or more. That's really what I've
been most thankful of. If I've gotten tons of injuries,
but it's all been little things and things that as
though they've been very painful to work through, I've been
able lucky enough to not miss any time.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
So okay, yeah, that's great my health.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
I'm I'm nothing, man, I might spoll retired.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Oh yeah, definitely, for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Man, Well, I'm sure it's tough to just keep taking
care of yourself and and you know, making.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
All these bookings and shows.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yep, for sure.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Is there anything you think you bring to these shows
that promoters want to see?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Absolutely? I mean, first of all, you got a team
of Nick and Dick, so that just I mean, that
got a great ring to it. But no, I mean we,
like Adik said before, we've got that old school field.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Look.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
I look around at all the locker rooms right now.
I see guys with tattoos, I see guys with beards,
I see guys with long hair. I see guys with
you know, if they have long hair, they have a
condition and in their face. I see guys with the
whole paint gimmick, you know, dark, and that's okay. Whatever
your thing is, that's that's cool, that's you. What I
(42:56):
don't see is this old school nineteen eighty nineteen nineties, tan,
long hair, you know, tall, good looking, you know, no tattoos,
just you know guys that you're like, man, they look
like movie stars, right, they look different, and you'd be surprised.
You're not trying to brag, but especially being in West Virginia,
(43:18):
it's not ragging. I'll go to the gas station and
people are like, man, you look like you're from La
or you know, you look like you're in a rock band.
And it's like, yeah, that's I'm a professional wrestler and
that's the way it should be in my eyes. So
what may have been, you know, to all these promoters
now they're like, oh, I've seen that. That's you know,
(43:39):
I've seen that twenty years ago. That's no big deal.
You're nothing new. Look in your locker room now, do
you see that? Now? Do you see a Rick Flair,
a Rick Brewd. I'm not talking like a nature boy,
Paul Lee. I'm talking like you know that where it's
you got that vintage feel, that nostalgia feel makes you
(44:00):
like the Outrunners. Yes, that is why they are are
the hottest tag team now in wrestling right now, because
they make you feel that they got that look. And
that's what me and they did bring to the table.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
Well what I almost I took it off and I
shouldn't have. And I had onographic, Uh, new school?
Speaker 2 (44:23):
What was it? New school? Hell?
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Old school? What was it new school? I can't what
was it new school? Hell? Old school? The old feel? Yeah,
And I thought that was a good tagline. And I
feel like that's what we bring. It's new, but it
still has that old and nostalgia sells right everybody wants
you know they look. I mean they keep bringing back
(44:48):
the old guys. Why do they keep bringing back the
old guys? Because people remember that that's the wrestling they
grew up with, That's the wrestling they love. If you
can bring that to their shows, they're gonna like that.
Like THEI said that, right, what are they doing new?
But it's fresh? Right, It's different than what anybody else
is doing. But they're not reinvent the whell. You know,
(45:10):
they're doing stuff people did in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
And also think that the second that what we bring
is tell story. Yeah, I mean, you give me any
subject of a match, whether it's high flying or whether
it's just we can only punch tonight, that's the only
move we can do. Well, we'll tell a story with
that and we'll get the crowd entertained. And I think
(45:36):
that's missing a lot from today's wrestling, is you know,
just get the crowd invested, tell a story good versus evil.
It doesn't have to be any more complicated than that.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
Well, that's just like what aj Stalas and John Cena
said that they thought their one match was so great
because they didn't go outside of the ring. They can'tionship
match like that was their big thing was we're not
going out out of the ring. You know, as simple
as that told that story. They said it was one
of their best matches together just because they didn't go
out of their ring, you know, and even like you know,
(46:16):
it's the Bible, that's the oldest story, good versus Evil.
If you have to do that sold how many copies?
If you just tell that story, you're golden. And even
you know, with Nick having a manager, that's extra addition
to the store, you know, we come out, we make
it a big production. I introduced Nick like he's the
star upon stars going to the match. You know, I
(46:38):
might help him bend the You know, you have two
people to hate, you know, more than one.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
You have two people to hate.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
Definitely, I think when I've seen you guys executed it
so well. And you know, that's just props to that,
because I feel like that's something you learn that and trained,
like how to work with a manager, or is that
something you just natural you naturally have to organically build.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
You just organically build that overtime. I mean that is
four years of me and at being together. And yeah
there were things there early on ideas and whatnot, but no,
that is trial and error, honing the skills, being on
the road, different these different opponents, different crowds, and finding
(47:27):
out what works.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
And that's also like you never think when you hear
like a tag team, right, we didn't become a good
tag team till we rode together. Like Nick and I
we ride you know together, we're together, what four or
six hours, thirteen hours a whole day, you know, talking
about what we're going to work out stuff, what we're
going to do the next match, what we did the
(47:50):
last one.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
It didn't work.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
What we need to do this? We're always you know,
looking at to make us us better. And I think
that helped, because you know, we have each other.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
It's not like, well I'm gonna go in see what
what sticks. I'm just gonna split throw spaghetti at the
wall and see what sticks. You know, I have Nick
to say did I do this this work? Nick can
come to me and say, hey, did this work? What happened?
Speaker 2 (48:18):
You know?
Speaker 4 (48:19):
There? What can I what can we do better? We
can just bounce up, spend four hours thinking of stuff.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Mm hmm, I'm sure there's That makes for some very
interesting car rides.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
And you guys, how are you traveling to these shows?
I mean are you Are you getting flights or you're
mostly driving?
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Are mostly driving?
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Which is the longest drive that you have promotion right now?
Speaker 4 (48:52):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (48:53):
The longest one I've ever have done was to Memphis.
That was almost nine hours, and I think the DC
one turned into that with traffic like that. One was
the Mayor the Waldorf Maryland one that that turned into
like nine hours. I felt like a plane, trains and automobiles.
That was but I watched Tommy Boy today, so I
felt like that was more of a Tommy Boy. I
(49:15):
got planes trains it was. It was a very long trip.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Oh wow, So anybody and when when that happens, you
guys are on that long long track.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
I just I feel like that that that creates that
bond more right.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
It does? I mean he has me in tears, uh,
either laughing or tears row on a strangle him. Man, No,
it always makes me laugh. Well, the last trip, I
didn't even have my phone. I forgot it, and let
(49:52):
should tell you, I had no room for the trip
up and the trip back, and so I just had
a entertain me.
Speaker 6 (50:01):
Yes that that that that that sounds like it would
be a fun time.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
And then for you a how do you get your comedic?
Your comedy? Like? Uh, you know what? What? What kind
of material do you use or or reference? Rather just whatever?
Speaker 4 (50:25):
I don't know. I've always liked offbeat. I love kids
in the hall just like I think you should leave now.
Just random stuff I love like comedia, wrestlers like Lady
Swinging is probably like one of my favorites of all times.
And then I feel like it helps because niked serious.
I'm comedian. I've started. I bought a wig, like a
(50:49):
men's wig, and I've been wearing that because I've been
you know, everybody that sees me, I've been bald. We've
put chains under it, brass knuckles, gets something to high,
and everybody's been called me, you know, mister clean this,
mister clean that. And then I come out with this
ridiculous set of hair now and just looking at people.
I try to be serious with some of them, like kids.
(51:12):
They they called me names, and I tell they called
me baldy, and I like to tell them that, you know,
the ravages of time will kept up catch up to them.
One day they'll look like me. That might go over
their head, but I feel like their their parents. They
always get a chuckle with that, you know. Yeah, try
to think outside of it, not like hey you're fat,
(51:32):
you're stupid, you know, get on a different level. But yeah,
I think like the off beat stuff like kids in
the hall, I think you should leave like anything that had.
I watch a lot of like improv, because that's that's
all it is, right. I have to think quick on
my feet, say something, do something.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
It's all on the spot, yes, And also you have
to worry about those wrestlers, uh retaliating too, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
Yeah, yeah, I gotta got last time didn't work out
too much, too well for me, so and I tried
to hit hit one of them with a belt and
they got me between the legs. So there's something you
got to look out for. I normally take the brunt
of that. For some reason, I don't know why. Normally
the retaliations on.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
Me, not on.
Speaker 7 (52:24):
We won that, Yeah we won. Yeah, yeah, they didn't
take a very good picture of me afterwards. You know,
I'm a little still little, a little hurt physically from that.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
And and have you guys ever been part of a
stable before? I know you had kind of alluded to
something about the franchise players players? Okay, yes, and how
much this one? How much you enjoyed being part of
that stable?
Speaker 5 (52:56):
We're done with them, it's over new franchise players. Yeah,
I enjoyed it so much. Show that we're going to
create the Franchise Players two point zero. But you know,
this past year we were able to win the six
man tag titles, and then the tag titles themselves, and
(53:16):
then the Super h title, and all of it was
a result of me being the franchise of the franchise players.
I didn't see Shane Douglas anywhere in that, and in fact,
he was absentee every time. But you know, when he
was president, we have this fabulous free birds rule, so
(53:38):
you know, others can hold the titles in our group
and defend them. And you know, I was off doing
shows at O w W and a couple other places,
and Shane stepped in because he's the leader, right, and well.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
He lost them, He lost all of them. So yeah, Shane,
just stay at home man.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Okay, yeah, you guys, don't you guys are moving past him.
Speaker 4 (54:05):
Yeah at this point, ohle news, franchise, the legacy, right,
he's Emmitt Smith. You're looking at a new player that
you're going to build a franchise on. You know, Emmitt Smith,
Troy in the past, Dean Sanders. He can only coach.
You know, You've got Nick Cameron. Now, yes, he's I
don't know football. He's a not a damn Marino because
he's got his less in, not latess out, you.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Know what he's all about.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
Definitely, Well, I can't wait to see how how that
develops as well. Is this a is this uh only
on one promotion or is it across multiple promotions.
Speaker 3 (54:39):
Now it's a with one promotion to apple Agian Championship Wrestling. There.
They're one of the premier companies in West Virginia for
independent wrestling. Yeah, so they have a YouTube page and
you should check them out. They got some great rest.
They bring in a lot of Northern guys from Pittsburgh
and Cleveland for guys you've heard of that are on
(55:02):
the up and coming scene of wrestling. So yeah, definitely
definitely a good company to have in our backyard mm hm.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
And then Nick, we're in a dick tell me any
advice for people watching. We have wrestlers watching this that
want to get involved in professional wrestling, people that want
to train in professional wrestling, Like, what's your advice for them?
Speaker 3 (55:30):
Don't don't hold back. I mean, like I said in
the very beginning, where you're you're only natural to be
timid and and like kind of walking on eggshells. And
I think it's just because it's such a bravado sport.
You know, everybody's look at me. I'm the star, and
everybody wants to be a star, and there's only so many,
(55:52):
you know, opportunities allowed. So in the beginning. You know,
just like we're taught in the make it count. If
you're going to do something, make it count, send it.
You know, you don't half ass something, you know, So
I would tell the person starting out, give it. You're
all give it for it, don't be scared. Everybody starts
(56:12):
somewhere you know who cares. Correct it, learn from it,
move on. You know, there was a couple of things
I did early in this business that, like I think
back now, they're so small. I'm like, I cannot believe.
I lost sleep over that. And in the in the time,
it was like, oh my god, this could derail me.
And you know, my what am I going to do?
(56:35):
And it's just relax right, If this is what you
want to do, it's not something that's going to be
done overnight. You're going to have to learn to just
embrace the journey. And it's going to be a long journey.
And you know, here I am five years still doing it,
and I feel like I still need another five years.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
So you just relax, I guess it would be my
biggest advice.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
Yeah, for sure. And then for you, I mean, you
were got to be relaxed.
Speaker 1 (57:06):
You're kind of like in the ring with multiple people
that you've probably never been in the ring with before.
Right that night me a rumball. So that's kind of
like where you said being timid and walk on nextshells.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
Yeah, and I mean now it's you know, about a
year ago, me and A Dick, we both kind of
we did a show and we kind of had the
imposter syndrome. Definitely, I'm here, I'm with the people. Am
I supposed to be here? And then it's like your
damn straight I am? And you gotta take that on.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Right right, I'm quite me all I'm wrong. But you
were in the ring with the legend, the hardcore legend,
right do love or Rick Foley?
Speaker 3 (57:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (57:47):
Yeah, that would be fun.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
And I didn't get eliminated by him. I'll say that.
You know my my friend Jack Vaughton, did you know, Yes,
but handsome Nick Cameron did not get eliminated by dude Love.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
Well.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
I appreciate you both being on PW Report. Thank you
for being very candied.
Speaker 2 (58:06):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (58:07):
I just want to get you a chance, Nick, for
you a Dick and Nick to plug yourselves h and
let us know the first show you're doing, uh next weekend.
Speaker 3 (58:18):
Yeah, so next weekend is spc W. That one is
in Life of atte Tennessee. Okay, that they're a really
good promotion. I believe Tom Fritcher helps out with that promotion.
Uh that you have a lot of Ricky Morton h
School of Morton guys down there, so fun, fun atmosphere.
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you know. And yeah, I think am I forgetting anything ad?
Speaker 4 (59:31):
I don't think so. Like everything's handsome to camerck, everything's
our names, everything's a di fickers, you know, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube,
all of that. I think that's what probably the most
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Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Man, I love your quote the men hate me because
the woman loved me.
Speaker 7 (01:00:04):
Yeah, yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Well, it was a blast taught you, guys, and you
welcome back anytime at PWE.
Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
I helped to meet you in the future.
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And before I let you go, do me a quick
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Could each of you give me a shout out? Is
that cool?
Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Oh yeah, all right, PWE Report, PW Report.
Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
And hold on, I'm gonna end this recording and start
new one.
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
I gotcha.