June 26, 2025 • 52 mins
For generations, the majestic Southern Appalachian Mountains have stood as silent witnesses to time, their peaks shrouded in mists, their valleys echoing with the stories of indigenous peoples. We know them as places of incredible natural beauty, deep spiritual significance, and a rich, if sometimes elusive, Native American past. But what if Iwe told you there's another layer to this ancient story, one that stretches far beyond conventional understanding? What if we told you that hidden within these very mountains, we might find astonishing connections to one of the most brilliant and enigmatic civilizations the world has ever known: the ancient Maya of Mesoamerica?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yes, big footstepping through the pace, Elien send the secret
(01:06):
sience EVPs in the day of night, ghosts in in
the pill, moonlight before him, what we bring it to
your truth? Behind the veil, got of Psulia fucking up
the phrase the freaking the weird feel as we top
her around see quote all of us in the paste.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Preachers called from a.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Timeless sleep life in a scotic, freckling place, singles from
the onisa plee.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Day a, right, what up?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
We had to turn the lights on.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
We just kept beating down. Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Sorry, we're a little late. I had to be at
work a little longer than I needed to be so,
oh hello, paranorm apart, how you doing? Thank you. We
would have started a little earlier, but we.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Ran into some problems.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, I had to do some stuff at work before
I got to come home. So it's those work things again.
Tonight's show is gonna be great, though. We're gonna talk
about the Maya and were they actually in Georgia a
place called Pricetown, bald It's called a track rock site
that they found a few years back, and it is amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Now I'm not really this yellow, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
He's John.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I look orange.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
He's orange man.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
We got to give him a camera.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Jason's camera keeps acting weird. Yeah, so you know, crazy things.
So you know the show tonight, Did the Maya really
live in Georgia? We're gonna try to break it down
and explain everything and see what you think at the end.
(03:10):
You know, it's it's up to you on what you believe.
I believe that I've been studying this for quite a while,
haven't I? Jason?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I think it's an interesting thing because there's a lot
of what's up, Jeff, A lot of similarities in the area,
things that they found, copper plates. But we'll go through
all of that.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
This is what this show would be, what you would
call forbidden history, yes, or forbidden archaeology. Yeah, we love
that stuff too, Yes we do. So this is not
really a paranormal show, but there's overly over stoked oscars.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Hello, Hello, Hello, I like the new name of this one.
Mm hmm. So you're gonna take it off only two
don't matter.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I'll let you rest minute. So all right, so, did
did the Maya really live in Georgia? Now this this
evidence may stun you a little bit. But the Cherokee
elders calloused hand brushed moss from the stone wall. They
called it. It's a ye, he murmured, the words hanging
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like missed over Brasstown bald. Now this this is a
place in northern Georgia. Yes, it's not too far from here.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
No, it is not.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
The place of the it'sa so long before my people
walk these mountains, the stone shapers were here above him,
Georgia's highest peak, cut into the dawn sky, a centennial
guarding secret in the Blue Ridge Mountains. M mhm for generations.
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Missionaries dismissed the name of Brass Town, scrubbing history into
the something small and metallic. But the stones remembered, so
the stone rivers. It's one hundred and fifty four terraced
walls cascaded down the slopes of track rock gap like
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frozen waterfalls, granite and quartzite, fitted with mortar, curved with
the mountain's ribs. Each terrace cradled soil beds without without mortar,
without mortar. Each terrace cradled soil beds where corn once grew,
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fed by hidden channels of first sized stones that whispered
with the rain water an ancient sympathy symphony of survival.
To the untrained eye, you know, it might resemble Cherokee
or Creek work, but the angles betrayed a foreign precise
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thirty five degree retaining slopes, subsurface drains snaking beneath the
soil elevation zoning for crops. These were not the mark
of local indigenous tribes. Hey, Stephen, Stephen's got a good story. Yeah, Hey,
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shells on rumble, it's up. So in the Guatemalan highlands
at camin al Juyu, the it'sa Maya had built identical terrorists,
terrorist terraces a thousand years earlier, stone lungs bringing life
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into the volcanic slope. So the radiocarbon dates attract rock
Gap charcoal women radiocarbon dates from te B rock Gap
charcoal told the same story seven sixty to eight point
fifty CE. Now this is the exact years when ash
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from l Chitsen's eruptions blotted the massive American sun, when
drought cracked the reservoirs of takal and when the great
Southern cities emptied, the Maya had not vanished. They had
just journeyed moved, so that wouldn't be. I mean, I
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don't know why modern day archaeology doesn't recognize this, because
this is a lot of evidence that well.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
And it goes against what they what they say happened, right,
So they would have to rewrite the history books and
all of that stuff, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, I mean they would probably eventually have to give
the Mayan people.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
You know, if you could I guess, if you could
prove that you were Maya descendant, then would you not
be considered a Native American tribe and be able to,
you know, claim that here in the Americas.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, he should be. It's just odd that that that
they don't recognize this when all, when you have all
this evidence.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, and we're about to get into a little bit
of it here, because in Georgia, right beneath all this,
oh man, this is the truck driver. Hold on a second,
keep don't go on, Jason.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So what David was saying in Georgia, beneath Georgia's red
clay in the pits of Decatur in Wilkinson Counties, or
veins of chalky white earth, and for decades miners shoveled
it like common dirt. Then came the electron microscopes, and
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scientists split the clay open, revealing palagrscat it's a rare
whisker like mineral. At the same moment, in a lab
far far to the south, chemist analyze a blue pigment
from the Temple of Warriors at Chisenitza under identical scopes,
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and the sample screened their kinship. So atomic structures matched
trace metal, iron, magnesium, silica. They all lined isotopes danced
in lockstep. So this clay was the sacred heart of
the Mayan blue, the immortal pigment that defied jungle humidity
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and conquisted or flames. Only Maya and chemists knew its secrets.
Baking palagrse gout at one hundred and fifty degrees to
open one hundred and fifty degrees celsius, to open its
crystal teeth, fusing it with indigo under ritual chance, painting
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temples with the blue that outlasted kings. So Georgia's dirt
had stained the walls of Chisenitza. So that's pretty wild.
Maybe David'll be back in here in a mine. I
know I wanted to talk about it. He knows a
lot more about it than I do. But what they're
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saying is there was somebody mining this palogrse got clay
in Georgia and sending it back to the Mayan in
Mexico or Guatemala, because I don't think there's actually no
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evidence of any Palo gor scote in the area of around.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
So that's where it gets weird. Right, So there's a
few small places that they've got Polo gorse gote. But
the going theory is is that there's not enough there
for all the stuff that they painted, because they painted
temples with this stuff every sacrifice, so if it was
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a person, object of gold, everything got painted with this stuff.
They found it in the bottom of some sonotes over
six foot thick.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
That's a lot. And so that's where this is. How
far did you get the copper p okay? So did.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
So?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You also told them about the where it says that
it was identical, identical, Yeah, what came out of Georgia
to to what was gotten off there? Yeah? So I
mean to me, when you have those isotopes that are
perfectly the same, no different, that's telling you that had
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to come from here, no no question asked. It had
to come from here. Well, if they had supposedly no
trade or anything, then how did it get here?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
How did at the beginning where Jason was talking about
the name of that area, it's called the Place of
the Itza. And as we just.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Learned in Cherokee that it's called place of the Itza.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, and so and that and and the it's a Maya.
Is the same people that all of this stuff matches with.
I don't know, I just I find it amazing. Yeah,
a little more than just a coincident maybe, Yeah, blue
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has been a royal color. But what what's crazy is
that overly overstoked oscars Oh oh oh, triple o oh
oh oh, you know is that? Uh how they come
up with it? Because it's it's Pilo gor scot clay.
And then it is well I'm sure you've already said
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that to how it's made and everything.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, how they baked it at one hundred and fifty
degrees celsius. Yeah, and they added I forget what they added.
I know what it is because I used to indigo.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Indigo. I used to dig indigo. I have a great
story about indigo. It's a great thing to dig. At
the end of the year when most other plants have died.
And my uncle was like, oh yeah, I go dig
indigo because yellow jackets won't bury near it and underneath
they don't like it. So here I am digging. I
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found a patch that's just huge. I'm digging it. I
pull that sucker up. Man, I start getting popped and
I dropped everything, and I ran and screamed, and a
good thing. There's no recording of that because I'd probably
be made fun of forever. And then I finally went
back and got my stuff and left.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So I want me show this picture right quick before
you start. Now, this it's what it looks like over
there in North Georgia.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, this is track Rock right here. So this is
the site. And now, last time I looked it was
last year, if I'm not mistaken, but they said that
they was getting it ready to open for visitors at
some point. So this is going to actually start allowing
visitors to come and look at this site. Now they
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still say they being know, the mainstream archaeologists and stuff
like that, that this is Cherokee or Creek or or something,
but they say it's not them. Yeah, they themselves say
it was not them. So which I find funny, you know,
Oh no, we know better than your own history. We
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know your history better than you do. So this next
one too. Jason's got some pictures of some of this
stuff too, don't you. I got the copper plate, the
one copper plate right now, the copper plate, and then
so we're gonna talking about I have the picture of
where he's looking at the wall and it's an itza. Yeah.
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So they pulled some some copper plates up to that
don't match with anything that you really find in an
indigenous Native America. Here. So the storm of October two
thousand and four last cracked rock gap that stripped the
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soil from a crevice. There, gleaming like tears in the mud,
lay three copper plates. Now these were thin as oak
leaves etched upon them, or scenes that are frozen in time. Now,
on the first plate you see a lord knelt, spine
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arched like a bow behind him, and a priest that
was pressed and enema syringed to his backbone. That was
a big thing that they did. Enemis serpentine vines coiled
above their heads, a mirror of the Boonham Pock murials
where nobles purged their bodies to relieve hallucinogenic visions from
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the gods, or I'm sorry, receive hallucinogenic visions from the god.
On the second plate bore a two headed beast arcing
across the metal stars studded its scale spine. It's on
cab Ain, or the cosmic crocodile whose body became the
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earth in Maya creation myths. At Polanki's temple, the same
beast guarded the entrance to Shabalba, or the underworld. Now
on the third there was a ballplayer leaned low, hips
armored and woven padding. His eyes were locked in an
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unseen rubber sphere. Behind him rose stepped pyramids, echoing brasstown
Bald's own terraces. Now this was no game. It was
a ritual war, re enacting the hero twins battle against
the lords of Death. Now no Cherokee or Creek hands
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had etched these scenes. They were pages torn straight from
a Maya codex and buried in Appalachian soil. Play the
game in some places there, you know, because Maya still exists,
And in some places the game is still played. I mean,
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not to the same deathly ends, but the game is
still played. Yeah, do you want to read this or
so Now southeast of the terraces, the earth itself swelled
in Kinnemer Mound, which is a five sided pyramid carved
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from the living mountain, Archaeologists sliced trenches through its skin,
revealing layers of basket carried clay thirty five feet high,
five sides. In all North America, only one people sculpted
like this. It was the It's Amaya at a exam
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all The Pyramid of the Magicians is a five tiered
honored the sacred directions north, south, east, west and the
axis of the world tree piercing the center. Here, the
mounds corners aligned to the summer solstice sunrise on its
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lost summit stone, the Equinos sun once cast a dagger
of shadow onto a spring below, a ritual marker known
from Copion to Karkol Steel. No glyphs shouted from the stones.
There's no stelae boasted of kings, only silence. That's what
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a lot of people say. Well, if it's the Maya,
then why do we not find hey faces in the stone?
I figured you would like this topic. I've been watching
your your, uh, your show a lot. So the funny
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thing is is that I don't believe and all the
research that I've done, and I've been doing it for years,
and all the research I've done and everything, I do
not believe at all that this was where there was
any seat of power that was here in Bricetown, Ball.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I think it was just a mining operation.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I think their main thing was mining. I do think
that they had a hierarchy, you know what I mean,
But I don't think that they had it to the
extent of you know, what they had in Mexico or
what I'm all, or any place like that. No kings, no, no,
just a just say, like a governor that ran everything.
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No governor, he little governor, he little puppet, hell puppet.
But that's why I believe that there's no writing and stuff,
because really writing to the maya and stuff was only
something that the kings and uh, the priests and stuff.
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New common people couldn't read and write. I mean, it's
kind of like Europe of the time. You know, common
people very rarely could read and write. And I think
that's why you don't find that kind of stuff there.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Did they find a road?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Hm?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Well, I mean there's not only is it terced off,
but there's also water that's being brought down from up
on top of the mountains into the central part of
where you know, the place would be where everybody would
be living and stuff like that. It's it's it's pretty neat.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
So I think, Stephen, I think I think they weren't
just in Georgia. I think they may have went to
like the middle, well, middle part of the.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I'll tell you what I looked at in my studies,
and it's not in here.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
They did trade. I think they did do a lot
of trading in the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Something that's not in here because Jason did a bunch
of studying and then I did study in to do
this show, and then we kind of messed it together
to create the show. But something that I didn't do
was so cranial deformation. It was something that Maya did do,
but it was only for you know, really high ups
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in society. They're the only ones that could do it.
But the same thing happened here in the Americas too.
The Creek Indians did the same thing. They had cranial deformation.
It's where pottery was basically. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right,
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because I mean, you know, the Cherokee Indians say that
they've been in the area for I think it's somewhere
around the last thirty thousand years or something like that.
And then they talked about the people who were there
before them. They were talking about the mountain builders and
the stone builders and stuff like that. I would say,
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you're probably right because any roads they would have built
would have been a better passage way to go and
so therefore we would have, yeah, you know, probably used it.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
You know, at one time they had closed this area,
wouldn't it was guarded.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah, they wouldn't let no one in.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, when they were doing the archaeology and archaeologists and
it was it wasn't just it was the government that
was closing this thing. Yep, wild, Yep, something's there.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Oh yeah, Well, I mean you've got light our photo.
I mean what you showed of it is a light
our image of it.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
So I don't know if they've reopened it or not.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Well, I know that, like I said, I was really
looking into it because I wanted to go. I want
to go real bad. And they were saying that they
were they've had it closed again, but they're going to
open it back up to the public where you could literally,
there's going to be a place for you to park,
walk back and actually see the site. And they're opening
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it up to the public. Yeah, after they've done got
all the evidence that well, I mean, of course, but
there's guys out there that's already looked through this.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Remember when they turned Scott Walter away. Yes, that was
a good show. Yeah, that from I think it was
that America and America something like that. But they he
went down there and they wouldn't let him in. Crazy
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he does the forbidden history.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, he does. Well, I don't think he does it anymore.
I don't think that's hurt from show is still not going.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Faces in the Stone says that's great. There's got to
be some leftovers.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yes, somewhere, right, I mean they find all kinds of
stuff up there. Yeah, over the overstocked Oscar says, I
was told there are pyramids here in the US. Yeah,
they're all over the well, I mean we did a
show one time on the pyramid that's in supposed to Missouri. Yeah,
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that big, big mound. Yeah, and I've heard one over here.
I'm sure Stephen knows about the one in Oak Ridge somewhere. Yeah.
Uh well, I'll tell you not the Cherokee language, but
the Creek language is somewhere around two thirds Mayan. Yeah,
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from everything that I've looked into it, it's almost like
the difference. The differences are kind of like the differences
between living in California and down here in the South.
That's kind of the differences. But they had the same
words for something, which we'll show here in a second.
Someone actually that's as a Maya was here and they
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were up there doing some work and they heard the
name of a specific place and he's he says, that's
the same in my language. So what does faces in
the stone light? Our data is available to everybody, Yes,
m hm, yeah, And and they and they did do
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a light our on it. So it's it's pretty neat
now that Brasstown Bald's crown is a ring of lichen
crusted stones that are sank into the soil. At dawn
on the winter solstice, the sun speared through a notch
which ignites a spiral carved into a center monolith, which
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is a signature of my observatories. Like you know, was
that Jason say say that word for me? Schnik a local.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Local chicken chick o.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Anyway, from this ring, sidelines stitched the land so Kinemer Mound,
which is anchored to Orion's belt, and the hearthstones to
the my Yeah, so terraced stairways framed the pilates like
a rattlesnake's tail whose spring rising signaled corn planting. There's
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a narrow cleft in the stones that captures Venus at
its zenith as precisely as the Kuko kN pyramid at Chitsanita.
The mountain was not just farmed, it was also a
map of the heavens, and that right there proves that
they were using it as also the same way that
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the Maya did. They say the story of the pyramid
could be in that area. Yeah, ridge, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
So there is a witness. Me pull this picture up
before I starting, So there is a witness. In twenty twelve,
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Alfonso morale, As, director of archaeology at Chitsenitza, sat before cameras,
his eyes reflecting a lifetime he had spent deciphering the
glyphs of the Maya. So he pointed to the bast
reliefs showing figures and feathered regalia, and these depict chiefs
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from Florida and Georgia, and he stated, when he was
finger tracing the stone inscriptions, they describe voyages to those lands.
When pressed about uh Maya in Georgia, his voice held
no hesitation. He said, it's not a theory, it's a fact.
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And his father had guided archaeologists through plen Q's secrets.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Secrets.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, the proof to him lived in stone and story.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
See there's another one, another another check.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yep, there's another check.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Some of that could read them, says, that's what they are.
And it's funny too, because you have the Spaniards when
they first landed in Florida what is now today Miami Maya.
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Maya is the first is the first bit of Miami Maya.
And there was a big lake there and I forgot
the name of the lake, but there was like seven
or eight tribes that they chronicled living around this big lake,
and every single one of their names had Maya in it,
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every single one of them.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
David has done a lot of research on this. I
haven't done as much as he has. He. I mean,
he started doing this I know in two maybe twenty thirteen,
because he was trying to put it together.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yes, that's that book. I was trying to write. Yeah
that I've never finished the Serpent Mound in Ohio.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You talking about the snake and the connection to the
main and just make you wonder.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean if they come here, how
much further is to go up into Ohio?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I do think they traded in the Midwest. Well here
in the.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
East, in Middle Tennessee area, they have found white statues
of men and women and you have a picture of
one of one of them.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, they were found in Georgia, which.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Were found in Georgia, but they've also found some of
the same here which are something that is one Mayan.
I mean it's it's Mayan so and and you could
say that it was traded or whatever, but you know
it's it's it's Mayan.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
But one of the plates that they found in Georgia
is the almost the exact replica, yes, of the one
that was that it's crazy. Did you show that one
a ready? Yeah, I showed dad. Were the guy or
or the the mayan had the the head in his
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hand and I'm sure the club had the club to
the stars.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
They had one leg up And yeah, that's buying because
they've actually found the you know, the reliefs. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
So seven sixty CE volcanoes howled in Guatemala. Wars shred
the social fabric. The it's a water wizards. Terrace builders
gather their knowledge like seeds. They weren't kings and jade
mask but farmers, miners and potters. They launched dugout canoes
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into the Gulf's embrace, riding currents north for months. They
followed the rivers Appalachicola, then the winding watercourse. They came
or they name Chattahouchi, which is carved stone, shallow river.
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And centuries later a Mayan speaking labor in Georgia would
hear the Anglicized name Chattahoochee and gasp, it means the
same in his language. The river had kept its true
name like a buried artifact.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
So you know what the Chattahoochee is named after.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Right, yeah, Chatta hauchi yep, which was the shallow river
carved in stone.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
It's crazy, nothing to see, you move along.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
So when they see Brasstown bald, steep water, vane, crowned
and chestnut and oak, they know they built terraces to
feed the hungry. Raise a pentagonal mound to anchor their
fleeing gods, buried copper plates to remember Bonapac's purifications. And
and that's the word I can't say. Palanka Polanc's monsters.
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They named the mountain it's a ye, which is what
place of the itza, place of the Itza. Then centuries later,
when the Cherokee arrived, they found the terraces swallowing themselves
in green, the solstice stones bearded in moss. They keep
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the name and they keep the story, right crazy. So
let me show this picture. So this first one over
here is the Mayan rain priestess. And yeah, you can
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find them in Mexico. See the the facial features, the paint.
This was found in the Okmulgie mound in Georgia. It's
a rain priestess. Look, she's on her knees, same same
face paint, same sort of frown. And this is a
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rain priestess in very huge Mexico nine eight e same
face paint. Yep, that's wild. Yep, that's two coincidental.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Way too coincidental. Then the next one where you have
the google con priestess. Yeah, and the Edewa mounds in Georgia.
And you look at that, and then you look at
the Chisita, Yucatan, Mexico. Google con priest. Sorry, but way
too similar. Yeah, it's just way too similar. You can't
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tell me that there's not a connection there there. I mean,
I guess you could tell me. I'm just not.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Believing there's not a connection there.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
These are not the droids you're looking for. Move along,
there's not the droids. Move along.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
M all right, David, you're a Why no glyphs?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
So the answer screamed from the clay pits. There is
no royal city. There's no Stonemasons carved boasts for kings.
Brasstown Bald was a mining colony, an outpost clawing sacred
Ali gorskite from Georgia's soil to fuel Maya Blues immortality.
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Farmers terraced slopes to feed clay diggers artisans etched portable
copper prayers. The Grand Inscriptions of Copon were for the dynasties,
where survival was only monument. The clay was their inscription,
a molecular confession, binding the Appalachian soil to Yucaton temples.
(38:10):
So the land's memory today, Bristown Bald wears its Cherokee
name like a borrowed coat, but walk its slopes after rain.
Run your hands over the terraced stones. Stand by the
Chattahoochee or the Chattahauchi where the water still flows shallow
(38:31):
over carved stone beds. Watch the winter solstice light pierce
the spiral, and the mountain. Never forget its true name.
It's a yee. There's no stella shout for conquest. Here,
only stones that remember the pilates, Only earth stained blue
(38:52):
by sacred clay, only copper plates whispering to the gods
of a homeland left behind. The Maya of Georgia built
no empires, They built resilience, and in these miss strouded
peaks their echoes refused to die.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Mhm very good.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
So yes, well, I know that one thing that I
did see, Stephen, when it comes to that, is that
chero key in Mayan means those of another Uh wait,
(39:36):
what was it, those of another language.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I know that Atawa has something to do with the
place in Georgia. I mean it's linked to that name
is linked to that somehow, right, I'm not sure how, But.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
There's faces in the stone have to say there. I'm
trying to gain employment. Stone Mountain Georgia. I've been there. Yeah,
Georgia is nice. I want to go to this place.
Let's let's just look it up.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Have you been to Stone Mountain?
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I don't think I've ever been to Stone.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Oh it was. It used to be nice back in
the day. I don't know what they've done with it now,
but they used to have a laser light show there.
Really on the mountain where the the they've got that
big I think it's Grant that's carved into the mountain
and something like that. Really, it may not be Grant,
(40:39):
it might be uh who was the Southern General Lee,
Robert E. Lee.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
So it's located in the chattahoochie Oconee National Forest.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah, and there's tons of stuff that's been found there.
Like I said, I know last year they said that
they was going to open it up. Yeah, it's open
(41:23):
historic sites, trails, tours, hiking. Fifty two acre area contains
preserved petroglyphs from what they say that this mountain gap
or pass gets its name, which they got it wrong,
(41:44):
and the carvings resemble animals and bird tracks, crosses, circles,
and human footprints. So it is open now from six
am to nine pm Monday through Sunday, seven days a week.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
That's wild. Yep.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Track Rock Archaeological Area.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Don't say nothing about Maian culture.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
No there, They're never going to that, ain't gonna haven't.
So it is up and it is called Track Rock
Archaeological Site. They've even got a website, so blue Ridge
(42:33):
Highlander dot com, the blue Ridge Highlander dot com. Road trip. Yes,
it's not that far. No, yeah, it's not that far.
A couple hours for us, I think three or three hours.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
When we went to uh the Stone American Stone Hinge. Yeah,
the American Stone ngs down there, we passed by.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Well, we wasn't too far from it.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
We wouldn't too far for Ridge Mountains. It was a
little bit further north.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
I think.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, you take a left instead of a right.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yeah, but I definitely want to go there. I hope
everybody liked the show tonight. Yeah, and sorry I had
to step out, but sometimes we have to do what
we have to do.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
So this is pretty good evidence that they're the may
indeed migrate or at.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Least was he at least was here, at least had
a settlement here, I think.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
And and with that being said of course they're going
to integrate in with local indigenous at the same time.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yeah, didn't they didn't war with them, they they kind of.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I was just there with.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Them, Yeah, I mean because I mean the Cherokee don't
talk about it. Maybe the Cherokee gave them rights to
the clay you never know, oh know. I think the
Cherokey say that they were here before them.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Oh really yep, yeah, because that's it was back in
the day, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I mean, Cherkeys say that they've been here for about
thirty thousand.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Years I think nine hundred BC or B or.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
C, so nine hundred Common era, So.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
That's when all the Mayan cities were starting to get
emptied vacant. Yeah so, and that's what they carbonated some
of that stuff in Georgia, right, So they could have
moved here, and we may have Mayan ancestors living here
in North Carolina or Georgia.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yep. Now that's something that the establishment definitely wouldn't want
to get out. Yeah at all. You're right, no way
did they were they here or were they ever be here?
I hope everybody like the show tonight. This is something
that really interested me and I kind of wanted to
(45:05):
do this show on this tonight and and Jason was like, sure,
what did Steven say?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
You found a guy that volunteered as a park ranger
in the Smoky Mountains and gotten to know him pretty well.
I asked him about the closed camp sites that I
heard about, and he said the area of those sides
has been patrolled heavily. I'm going to get more info
out of him. He is willing to talk its scenes
and that'd be good. Yeah. I was just about to
(45:41):
read your your encounter here Steven, where you went to
the campgrounds and found him closed up in Uh? Where
was it at?
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Shit?
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Mhm, Shoot, they had concrete barriers.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
And there's been a lot of sightings there. I think
it was city code. Yeah, because he said he went
on over to that other camping place Indian Boundary and
come down that way, but on his way through. I
want to read this for you well.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Faces in the Stone says the Cherokee claim a lot.
He says he goes to Cherokee often. Really enjoyed the show.
Thank you both. I'm going to have to watch the
replay to catch the beginning.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
M He says, there's been a lot of big foot. Yes,
thank you, he says. There's been a lot of bigfoot
encounters around that camp site. But we they journeyed on
up to this is where he at when he asked
us to go, and I couldn't go, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
I was I had to go to work early that
next morning.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Yeah, they journeyed on top of Indian boundary. So as
was we were going, we get to the top of
what I called the Witch's Cap and there was something large,
kind of a brownish tan color thing went running back
up the ridge from the road. And I can say
(47:15):
without a shadow of a doubt that this was no deer,
because for one, deer this time of year are red
in color and this was brown. So whatever it was,
it was a lot larger and a lot faster than
a deer. So he said he caught the backside of it,
him and the sun and it. If you look at
(47:39):
the Paddy film when it's moving before it looks back
and it moves up her right leg, that's exactly the
size and shape of what we've seen. We need. We
got to go with him up there. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
(47:59):
we have to go. We want to look for bigfoot.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
I'd like to do it. We've got a bunch of equipment.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yeah, never we we haven't really looked for bigfoot yet. No,
well we've been in the woods, but no bigfoot hunt.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Now we've always been doing something else, so it'd be fun.
I want to thank everybody for showing up for the
or coming in for the show and everything. And right now,
we don't have anything planned this Saturday.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Show yet, not yet. We'll let we'll let you know
on Facebook if what we're gonna do. That'd be fun, yes, Steven, Yeah,
we got to bring cameras recorded.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Again. I want to thank everybody for showing up and
and everything. Not this today, but next Saturday, we're going
to be on the Paranormal Paul's show. Right oh yeah,
So going to Simon.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
I'm going to try to simulcast it if I get
to know how.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
But you did it once before one was on another show.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
I think when we logged in it had over here
simulcast and you could hit it. I'm not going to
be in studio that night.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
I may do it from my house, but we're going
to do the show, so.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Okay, if you want to do it from your house,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I've got the top notch internet.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
You do have awesome internet. I'm a bit jealous of
his internet. Not a bit, I'm a lot jealous of
his internet. You got the I live closer to town
and he gets fiber. Yeah, he's got cable and I
got fiber. So he has the good stuff.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
And it does work because I have like two kids,
ones playing the PlayStation, ones on their iPad or they're
on the Oculus all together. I'm watching movies, I'm working
on a computer. It's just it's gonna be can't beat
it seamless.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Yeah, yeah, that's I'm jealous a little bit. I might
have to move out somewhere towards you now so I
can get that same internet.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, I'm on. I'll put that camper out there for you.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Yeah. We might need it if we sell the house
before we get something else. So remember you could find
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We appreciate all of you.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Hey, if Stephen ain't busy Saturday, we could do a
show with him. Hey, yeah, you know, let me let
me know Stephen if you're busy, and if not, we'll
set her up.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Sounds good.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
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Day a, right, what up?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
We had to turn the lights on.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
We just kept beating down. Yep.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Sorry, we're a little late. I had to be at
work a little longer than I needed to be so,
oh hello, paranorm apart, how you doing? Thank you. We
would have started a little earlier, but we.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Ran into some problems.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, I had to do some stuff at work before
I got to come home. So it's those work things again.
Tonight's show is gonna be great, though. We're gonna talk
about the Maya and were they actually in Georgia a
place called Pricetown, bald It's called a track rock site
that they found a few years back, and it is amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Now I'm not really this yellow, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
He's John.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, I look orange.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
He's orange man.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
We got to give him a camera.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Jason's camera keeps acting weird. Yeah, so you know, crazy things.
So you know the show tonight, Did the Maya really
live in Georgia? We're gonna try to break it down
and explain everything and see what you think at the end.
(03:10):
You know, it's it's up to you on what you believe.
I believe that I've been studying this for quite a while,
haven't I? Jason?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I think it's an interesting thing because there's a lot
of what's up, Jeff, A lot of similarities in the area,
things that they found, copper plates. But we'll go through
all of that.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
This is what this show would be, what you would
call forbidden history, yes, or forbidden archaeology. Yeah, we love
that stuff too, Yes we do. So this is not
really a paranormal show, but there's overly over stoked oscars.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Hello, Hello, Hello, I like the new name of this one.
Mm hmm. So you're gonna take it off only two
don't matter.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I'll let you rest minute. So all right, so, did
did the Maya really live in Georgia? Now this this
evidence may stun you a little bit. But the Cherokee
elders calloused hand brushed moss from the stone wall. They
called it. It's a ye, he murmured, the words hanging
(04:25):
like missed over Brasstown bald. Now this this is a
place in northern Georgia. Yes, it's not too far from here.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
No, it is not.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
The place of the it'sa so long before my people
walk these mountains, the stone shapers were here above him,
Georgia's highest peak, cut into the dawn sky, a centennial
guarding secret in the Blue Ridge Mountains. M mhm for generations.
(04:56):
Missionaries dismissed the name of Brass Town, scrubbing history into
the something small and metallic. But the stones remembered, so
the stone rivers. It's one hundred and fifty four terraced
walls cascaded down the slopes of track rock gap like
(05:18):
frozen waterfalls, granite and quartzite, fitted with mortar, curved with
the mountain's ribs. Each terrace cradled soil beds without without mortar,
without mortar. Each terrace cradled soil beds where corn once grew,
(05:40):
fed by hidden channels of first sized stones that whispered
with the rain water an ancient sympathy symphony of survival.
To the untrained eye, you know, it might resemble Cherokee
or Creek work, but the angles betrayed a foreign precise
(06:01):
thirty five degree retaining slopes, subsurface drains snaking beneath the
soil elevation zoning for crops. These were not the mark
of local indigenous tribes. Hey, Stephen, Stephen's got a good story. Yeah, Hey,
(06:23):
shells on rumble, it's up. So in the Guatemalan highlands
at camin al Juyu, the it'sa Maya had built identical terrorists,
terrorist terraces a thousand years earlier, stone lungs bringing life
(06:49):
into the volcanic slope. So the radiocarbon dates attract rock
Gap charcoal women radiocarbon dates from te B rock Gap
charcoal told the same story seven sixty to eight point
fifty CE. Now this is the exact years when ash
(07:11):
from l Chitsen's eruptions blotted the massive American sun, when
drought cracked the reservoirs of takal and when the great
Southern cities emptied, the Maya had not vanished. They had
just journeyed moved, so that wouldn't be. I mean, I
(07:36):
don't know why modern day archaeology doesn't recognize this, because
this is a lot of evidence that well.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
And it goes against what they what they say happened, right,
So they would have to rewrite the history books and
all of that stuff, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, I mean they would probably eventually have to give
the Mayan people.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
You know, if you could I guess, if you could
prove that you were Maya descendant, then would you not
be considered a Native American tribe and be able to,
you know, claim that here in the Americas.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, he should be. It's just odd that that that
they don't recognize this when all, when you have all
this evidence.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, and we're about to get into a little bit
of it here, because in Georgia, right beneath all this,
oh man, this is the truck driver. Hold on a second,
keep don't go on, Jason.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So what David was saying in Georgia, beneath Georgia's red
clay in the pits of Decatur in Wilkinson Counties, or
veins of chalky white earth, and for decades miners shoveled
it like common dirt. Then came the electron microscopes, and
(09:11):
scientists split the clay open, revealing palagrscat it's a rare
whisker like mineral. At the same moment, in a lab
far far to the south, chemist analyze a blue pigment
from the Temple of Warriors at Chisenitza under identical scopes,
(09:33):
and the sample screened their kinship. So atomic structures matched
trace metal, iron, magnesium, silica. They all lined isotopes danced
in lockstep. So this clay was the sacred heart of
the Mayan blue, the immortal pigment that defied jungle humidity
(09:57):
and conquisted or flames. Only Maya and chemists knew its secrets.
Baking palagrse gout at one hundred and fifty degrees to
open one hundred and fifty degrees celsius, to open its
crystal teeth, fusing it with indigo under ritual chance, painting
(10:19):
temples with the blue that outlasted kings. So Georgia's dirt
had stained the walls of Chisenitza. So that's pretty wild.
Maybe David'll be back in here in a mine. I
know I wanted to talk about it. He knows a
lot more about it than I do. But what they're
(10:39):
saying is there was somebody mining this palogrse got clay
in Georgia and sending it back to the Mayan in
Mexico or Guatemala, because I don't think there's actually no
(10:59):
evidence of any Palo gor scote in the area of around.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
So that's where it gets weird. Right, So there's a
few small places that they've got Polo gorse gote. But
the going theory is is that there's not enough there
for all the stuff that they painted, because they painted
temples with this stuff every sacrifice, so if it was
(11:25):
a person, object of gold, everything got painted with this stuff.
They found it in the bottom of some sonotes over
six foot thick.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
That's a lot. And so that's where this is. How
far did you get the copper p okay? So did.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
So?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You also told them about the where it says that
it was identical, identical, Yeah, what came out of Georgia
to to what was gotten off there? Yeah? So I
mean to me, when you have those isotopes that are
perfectly the same, no different, that's telling you that had
(12:17):
to come from here, no no question asked. It had
to come from here. Well, if they had supposedly no
trade or anything, then how did it get here?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
How did at the beginning where Jason was talking about
the name of that area, it's called the Place of
the Itza. And as we just.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Learned in Cherokee that it's called place of the Itza.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, and so and that and and the it's a Maya.
Is the same people that all of this stuff matches with.
I don't know, I just I find it amazing. Yeah,
a little more than just a coincident maybe, Yeah, blue
(13:06):
has been a royal color. But what what's crazy is
that overly overstoked oscars Oh oh oh, triple o oh
oh oh, you know is that? Uh how they come
up with it? Because it's it's Pilo gor scot clay.
And then it is well I'm sure you've already said
(13:26):
that to how it's made and everything.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, how they baked it at one hundred and fifty
degrees celsius. Yeah, and they added I forget what they added.
I know what it is because I used to indigo.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Indigo. I used to dig indigo. I have a great
story about indigo. It's a great thing to dig. At
the end of the year when most other plants have died.
And my uncle was like, oh yeah, I go dig
indigo because yellow jackets won't bury near it and underneath
they don't like it. So here I am digging. I
(14:02):
found a patch that's just huge. I'm digging it. I
pull that sucker up. Man, I start getting popped and
I dropped everything, and I ran and screamed, and a
good thing. There's no recording of that because I'd probably
be made fun of forever. And then I finally went
back and got my stuff and left.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So I want me show this picture right quick before
you start. Now, this it's what it looks like over
there in North Georgia.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yeah, this is track Rock right here. So this is
the site. And now, last time I looked it was
last year, if I'm not mistaken, but they said that
they was getting it ready to open for visitors at
some point. So this is going to actually start allowing
visitors to come and look at this site. Now they
(14:56):
still say they being know, the mainstream archaeologists and stuff
like that, that this is Cherokee or Creek or or something,
but they say it's not them. Yeah, they themselves say
it was not them. So which I find funny, you know,
Oh no, we know better than your own history. We
(15:19):
know your history better than you do. So this next
one too. Jason's got some pictures of some of this
stuff too, don't you. I got the copper plate, the
one copper plate right now, the copper plate, and then
so we're gonna talking about I have the picture of
where he's looking at the wall and it's an itza. Yeah.
(15:41):
So they pulled some some copper plates up to that
don't match with anything that you really find in an
indigenous Native America. Here. So the storm of October two
thousand and four last cracked rock gap that stripped the
(16:02):
soil from a crevice. There, gleaming like tears in the mud,
lay three copper plates. Now these were thin as oak
leaves etched upon them, or scenes that are frozen in time. Now,
on the first plate you see a lord knelt, spine
(16:24):
arched like a bow behind him, and a priest that
was pressed and enema syringed to his backbone. That was
a big thing that they did. Enemis serpentine vines coiled
above their heads, a mirror of the Boonham Pock murials
where nobles purged their bodies to relieve hallucinogenic visions from
(16:49):
the gods, or I'm sorry, receive hallucinogenic visions from the god.
On the second plate bore a two headed beast arcing
across the metal stars studded its scale spine. It's on
cab Ain, or the cosmic crocodile whose body became the
(17:12):
earth in Maya creation myths. At Polanki's temple, the same
beast guarded the entrance to Shabalba, or the underworld. Now
on the third there was a ballplayer leaned low, hips
armored and woven padding. His eyes were locked in an
(17:34):
unseen rubber sphere. Behind him rose stepped pyramids, echoing brasstown
Bald's own terraces. Now this was no game. It was
a ritual war, re enacting the hero twins battle against
the lords of Death. Now no Cherokee or Creek hands
(17:55):
had etched these scenes. They were pages torn straight from
a Maya codex and buried in Appalachian soil. Play the
game in some places there, you know, because Maya still exists,
And in some places the game is still played. I mean,
(18:16):
not to the same deathly ends, but the game is
still played. Yeah, do you want to read this or
so Now southeast of the terraces, the earth itself swelled
in Kinnemer Mound, which is a five sided pyramid carved
(18:38):
from the living mountain, Archaeologists sliced trenches through its skin,
revealing layers of basket carried clay thirty five feet high,
five sides. In all North America, only one people sculpted
like this. It was the It's Amaya at a exam
(19:03):
all The Pyramid of the Magicians is a five tiered
honored the sacred directions north, south, east, west and the
axis of the world tree piercing the center. Here, the
mounds corners aligned to the summer solstice sunrise on its
(19:25):
lost summit stone, the Equinos sun once cast a dagger
of shadow onto a spring below, a ritual marker known
from Copion to Karkol Steel. No glyphs shouted from the stones.
There's no stelae boasted of kings, only silence. That's what
(19:49):
a lot of people say. Well, if it's the Maya,
then why do we not find hey faces in the stone?
I figured you would like this topic. I've been watching
your your, uh, your show a lot. So the funny
(20:13):
thing is is that I don't believe and all the
research that I've done, and I've been doing it for years,
and all the research I've done and everything, I do
not believe at all that this was where there was
any seat of power that was here in Bricetown, Ball.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
I think it was just a mining operation.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I think their main thing was mining. I do think
that they had a hierarchy, you know what I mean,
But I don't think that they had it to the
extent of you know, what they had in Mexico or
what I'm all, or any place like that. No kings, no, no,
just a just say, like a governor that ran everything.
(20:59):
No governor, he little governor, he little puppet, hell puppet.
But that's why I believe that there's no writing and stuff,
because really writing to the maya and stuff was only
something that the kings and uh, the priests and stuff.
(21:20):
New common people couldn't read and write. I mean, it's
kind of like Europe of the time. You know, common
people very rarely could read and write. And I think
that's why you don't find that kind of stuff there.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Did they find a road?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Hm?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Well, I mean there's not only is it terced off,
but there's also water that's being brought down from up
on top of the mountains into the central part of
where you know, the place would be where everybody would
be living and stuff like that. It's it's it's pretty neat.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
So I think, Stephen, I think I think they weren't
just in Georgia. I think they may have went to
like the middle, well, middle part of the.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I'll tell you what I looked at in my studies,
and it's not in here.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
They did trade. I think they did do a lot
of trading in the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Something that's not in here because Jason did a bunch
of studying and then I did study in to do
this show, and then we kind of messed it together
to create the show. But something that I didn't do
was so cranial deformation. It was something that Maya did do,
but it was only for you know, really high ups
(22:50):
in society. They're the only ones that could do it.
But the same thing happened here in the Americas too.
The Creek Indians did the same thing. They had cranial deformation.
It's where pottery was basically. Yeah, I think you're absolutely right,
(23:13):
because I mean, you know, the Cherokee Indians say that
they've been in the area for I think it's somewhere
around the last thirty thousand years or something like that.
And then they talked about the people who were there
before them. They were talking about the mountain builders and
the stone builders and stuff like that. I would say,
(23:33):
you're probably right because any roads they would have built
would have been a better passage way to go and
so therefore we would have, yeah, you know, probably used it.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
You know, at one time they had closed this area,
wouldn't it was guarded.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yeah, they wouldn't let no one in.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, when they were doing the archaeology and archaeologists and
it was it wasn't just it was the government that
was closing this thing. Yep, wild, Yep, something's there.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Oh yeah, Well, I mean you've got light our photo.
I mean what you showed of it is a light
our image of it.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
So I don't know if they've reopened it or not.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Well, I know that, like I said, I was really
looking into it because I wanted to go. I want
to go real bad. And they were saying that they
were they've had it closed again, but they're going to
open it back up to the public where you could literally,
there's going to be a place for you to park,
walk back and actually see the site. And they're opening
(24:45):
it up to the public. Yeah, after they've done got
all the evidence that well, I mean, of course, but
there's guys out there that's already looked through this.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Remember when they turned Scott Walter away. Yes, that was
a good show. Yeah, that from I think it was
that America and America something like that. But they he
went down there and they wouldn't let him in. Crazy
(25:15):
he does the forbidden history.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, he does. Well, I don't think he does it anymore.
I don't think that's hurt from show is still not going.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Faces in the Stone says that's great. There's got to
be some leftovers.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yes, somewhere, right, I mean they find all kinds of
stuff up there. Yeah, over the overstocked Oscar says, I
was told there are pyramids here in the US. Yeah,
they're all over the well, I mean we did a
show one time on the pyramid that's in supposed to Missouri. Yeah,
(25:57):
that big, big mound. Yeah, and I've heard one over here.
I'm sure Stephen knows about the one in Oak Ridge somewhere. Yeah.
Uh well, I'll tell you not the Cherokee language, but
the Creek language is somewhere around two thirds Mayan. Yeah,
(26:22):
from everything that I've looked into it, it's almost like
the difference. The differences are kind of like the differences
between living in California and down here in the South.
That's kind of the differences. But they had the same
words for something, which we'll show here in a second.
Someone actually that's as a Maya was here and they
(26:46):
were up there doing some work and they heard the
name of a specific place and he's he says, that's
the same in my language. So what does faces in
the stone light? Our data is available to everybody, Yes,
m hm, yeah, And and they and they did do
(27:08):
a light our on it. So it's it's pretty neat
now that Brasstown Bald's crown is a ring of lichen
crusted stones that are sank into the soil. At dawn
on the winter solstice, the sun speared through a notch
which ignites a spiral carved into a center monolith, which
(27:34):
is a signature of my observatories. Like you know, was
that Jason say say that word for me? Schnik a local.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Local chicken chick o.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Anyway, from this ring, sidelines stitched the land so Kinemer Mound,
which is anchored to Orion's belt, and the hearthstones to
the my Yeah, so terraced stairways framed the pilates like
a rattlesnake's tail whose spring rising signaled corn planting. There's
(28:14):
a narrow cleft in the stones that captures Venus at
its zenith as precisely as the Kuko kN pyramid at Chitsanita.
The mountain was not just farmed, it was also a
map of the heavens, and that right there proves that
they were using it as also the same way that
(28:36):
the Maya did. They say the story of the pyramid
could be in that area. Yeah, ridge, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
So there is a witness. Me pull this picture up
before I starting, So there is a witness. In twenty twelve,
(29:22):
Alfonso morale, As, director of archaeology at Chitsenitza, sat before cameras,
his eyes reflecting a lifetime he had spent deciphering the
glyphs of the Maya. So he pointed to the bast
reliefs showing figures and feathered regalia, and these depict chiefs
(29:47):
from Florida and Georgia, and he stated, when he was
finger tracing the stone inscriptions, they describe voyages to those lands.
When pressed about uh Maya in Georgia, his voice held
no hesitation. He said, it's not a theory, it's a fact.
(30:09):
And his father had guided archaeologists through plen Q's secrets.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Secrets.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, the proof to him lived in stone and story.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
See there's another one, another another check.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yep, there's another check.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Some of that could read them, says, that's what they are.
And it's funny too, because you have the Spaniards when
they first landed in Florida what is now today Miami Maya.
(30:55):
Maya is the first is the first bit of Miami Maya.
And there was a big lake there and I forgot
the name of the lake, but there was like seven
or eight tribes that they chronicled living around this big lake,
and every single one of their names had Maya in it,
(31:17):
every single one of them.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
David has done a lot of research on this. I
haven't done as much as he has. He. I mean,
he started doing this I know in two maybe twenty thirteen,
because he was trying to put it together.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yes, that's that book. I was trying to write. Yeah
that I've never finished the Serpent Mound in Ohio.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You talking about the snake and the connection to the
main and just make you wonder.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean if they come here, how
much further is to go up into Ohio?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I do think they traded in the Midwest. Well here
in the.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
East, in Middle Tennessee area, they have found white statues
of men and women and you have a picture of
one of one of them.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, they were found in Georgia, which.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Were found in Georgia, but they've also found some of
the same here which are something that is one Mayan.
I mean it's it's Mayan so and and you could
say that it was traded or whatever, but you know
it's it's it's Mayan.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
But one of the plates that they found in Georgia
is the almost the exact replica, yes, of the one
that was that it's crazy. Did you show that one
a ready? Yeah, I showed dad. Were the guy or
or the the mayan had the the head in his
(32:55):
hand and I'm sure the club had the club to
the stars.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
They had one leg up And yeah, that's buying because
they've actually found the you know, the reliefs. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
So seven sixty CE volcanoes howled in Guatemala. Wars shred
the social fabric. The it's a water wizards. Terrace builders
gather their knowledge like seeds. They weren't kings and jade
mask but farmers, miners and potters. They launched dugout canoes
(33:39):
into the Gulf's embrace, riding currents north for months. They
followed the rivers Appalachicola, then the winding watercourse. They came
or they name Chattahouchi, which is carved stone, shallow river.
(34:01):
And centuries later a Mayan speaking labor in Georgia would
hear the Anglicized name Chattahoochee and gasp, it means the
same in his language. The river had kept its true
name like a buried artifact.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
So you know what the Chattahoochee is named after.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Right, yeah, Chatta hauchi yep, which was the shallow river
carved in stone.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
It's crazy, nothing to see, you move along.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
So when they see Brasstown bald, steep water, vane, crowned
and chestnut and oak, they know they built terraces to
feed the hungry. Raise a pentagonal mound to anchor their
fleeing gods, buried copper plates to remember Bonapac's purifications. And
and that's the word I can't say. Palanka Polanc's monsters.
(35:07):
They named the mountain it's a ye, which is what
place of the itza, place of the Itza. Then centuries later,
when the Cherokee arrived, they found the terraces swallowing themselves
in green, the solstice stones bearded in moss. They keep
(35:29):
the name and they keep the story, right crazy. So
let me show this picture. So this first one over
here is the Mayan rain priestess. And yeah, you can
(35:50):
find them in Mexico. See the the facial features, the paint.
This was found in the Okmulgie mound in Georgia. It's
a rain priestess. Look, she's on her knees, same same
face paint, same sort of frown. And this is a
(36:15):
rain priestess in very huge Mexico nine eight e same
face paint. Yep, that's wild. Yep, that's two coincidental.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Way too coincidental. Then the next one where you have
the google con priestess. Yeah, and the Edewa mounds in Georgia.
And you look at that, and then you look at
the Chisita, Yucatan, Mexico. Google con priest. Sorry, but way
too similar. Yeah, it's just way too similar. You can't
(36:48):
tell me that there's not a connection there there. I mean,
I guess you could tell me. I'm just not.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Believing there's not a connection there.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
These are not the droids you're looking for. Move along,
there's not the droids. Move along.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
M all right, David, you're a Why no glyphs?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
So the answer screamed from the clay pits. There is
no royal city. There's no Stonemasons carved boasts for kings.
Brasstown Bald was a mining colony, an outpost clawing sacred
Ali gorskite from Georgia's soil to fuel Maya Blues immortality.
(37:41):
Farmers terraced slopes to feed clay diggers artisans etched portable
copper prayers. The Grand Inscriptions of Copon were for the dynasties,
where survival was only monument. The clay was their inscription,
a molecular confession, binding the Appalachian soil to Yucaton temples.
(38:10):
So the land's memory today, Bristown Bald wears its Cherokee
name like a borrowed coat, but walk its slopes after rain.
Run your hands over the terraced stones. Stand by the
Chattahoochee or the Chattahauchi where the water still flows shallow
(38:31):
over carved stone beds. Watch the winter solstice light pierce
the spiral, and the mountain. Never forget its true name.
It's a yee. There's no stella shout for conquest. Here,
only stones that remember the pilates, Only earth stained blue
(38:52):
by sacred clay, only copper plates whispering to the gods
of a homeland left behind. The Maya of Georgia built
no empires, They built resilience, and in these miss strouded
peaks their echoes refused to die.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Mhm very good.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
So yes, well, I know that one thing that I
did see, Stephen, when it comes to that, is that
chero key in Mayan means those of another Uh wait,
(39:36):
what was it, those of another language.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I know that Atawa has something to do with the
place in Georgia. I mean it's linked to that name
is linked to that somehow, right, I'm not sure how, But.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
There's faces in the stone have to say there. I'm
trying to gain employment. Stone Mountain Georgia. I've been there. Yeah,
Georgia is nice. I want to go to this place.
Let's let's just look it up.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Have you been to Stone Mountain?
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I don't think I've ever been to Stone.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Oh it was. It used to be nice back in
the day. I don't know what they've done with it now,
but they used to have a laser light show there.
Really on the mountain where the the they've got that
big I think it's Grant that's carved into the mountain
and something like that. Really, it may not be Grant,
(40:39):
it might be uh who was the Southern General Lee,
Robert E. Lee.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
So it's located in the chattahoochie Oconee National Forest.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah, and there's tons of stuff that's been found there.
Like I said, I know last year they said that
they was going to open it up. Yeah, it's open
(41:23):
historic sites, trails, tours, hiking. Fifty two acre area contains
preserved petroglyphs from what they say that this mountain gap
or pass gets its name, which they got it wrong,
(41:44):
and the carvings resemble animals and bird tracks, crosses, circles,
and human footprints. So it is open now from six
am to nine pm Monday through Sunday, seven days a week.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
That's wild. Yep.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Track Rock Archaeological Area.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Don't say nothing about Maian culture.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
No there, They're never going to that, ain't gonna haven't.
So it is up and it is called Track Rock
Archaeological Site. They've even got a website, so blue Ridge
(42:33):
Highlander dot com, the blue Ridge Highlander dot com. Road trip. Yes,
it's not that far. No, yeah, it's not that far.
A couple hours for us, I think three or three hours.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
When we went to uh the Stone American Stone Hinge. Yeah,
the American Stone ngs down there, we passed by.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Well, we wasn't too far from it.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
We wouldn't too far for Ridge Mountains. It was a
little bit further north.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
I think.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Yeah, you take a left instead of a right.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yeah, but I definitely want to go there. I hope
everybody liked the show tonight. Yeah, and sorry I had
to step out, but sometimes we have to do what
we have to do.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
So this is pretty good evidence that they're the may
indeed migrate or at.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Least was he at least was here, at least had
a settlement here, I think.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
And and with that being said of course they're going
to integrate in with local indigenous at the same time.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yeah, didn't they didn't war with them, they they kind of.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
I was just there with.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
Them, Yeah, I mean because I mean the Cherokee don't
talk about it. Maybe the Cherokee gave them rights to
the clay you never know, oh know. I think the
Cherokey say that they were here before them.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Oh really yep, yeah, because that's it was back in
the day, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I mean, Cherkeys say that they've been here for about
thirty thousand.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Years I think nine hundred BC or B or.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
C, so nine hundred Common era, So.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
That's when all the Mayan cities were starting to get
emptied vacant. Yeah so, and that's what they carbonated some
of that stuff in Georgia, right, So they could have
moved here, and we may have Mayan ancestors living here
in North Carolina or Georgia.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yep. Now that's something that the establishment definitely wouldn't want
to get out. Yeah at all. You're right, no way
did they were they here or were they ever be here?
I hope everybody like the show tonight. This is something
that really interested me and I kind of wanted to
(45:05):
do this show on this tonight and and Jason was like, sure,
what did Steven say?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
You found a guy that volunteered as a park ranger
in the Smoky Mountains and gotten to know him pretty well.
I asked him about the closed camp sites that I
heard about, and he said the area of those sides
has been patrolled heavily. I'm going to get more info
out of him. He is willing to talk its scenes
and that'd be good. Yeah. I was just about to
(45:41):
read your your encounter here Steven, where you went to
the campgrounds and found him closed up in Uh? Where
was it at?
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Shit?
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Mhm, Shoot, they had concrete barriers.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
And there's been a lot of sightings there. I think
it was city code. Yeah, because he said he went
on over to that other camping place Indian Boundary and
come down that way, but on his way through. I
want to read this for you well.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
Faces in the Stone says the Cherokee claim a lot.
He says he goes to Cherokee often. Really enjoyed the show.
Thank you both. I'm going to have to watch the
replay to catch the beginning.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
M He says, there's been a lot of big foot. Yes,
thank you, he says. There's been a lot of bigfoot
encounters around that camp site. But we they journeyed on
up to this is where he at when he asked
us to go, and I couldn't go, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
I was I had to go to work early that
next morning.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Yeah, they journeyed on top of Indian boundary. So as
was we were going, we get to the top of
what I called the Witch's Cap and there was something large,
kind of a brownish tan color thing went running back
up the ridge from the road. And I can say
(47:15):
without a shadow of a doubt that this was no deer,
because for one, deer this time of year are red
in color and this was brown. So whatever it was,
it was a lot larger and a lot faster than
a deer. So he said he caught the backside of it,
him and the sun and it. If you look at
(47:39):
the Paddy film when it's moving before it looks back
and it moves up her right leg, that's exactly the
size and shape of what we've seen. We need. We
got to go with him up there. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
(47:59):
we have to go. We want to look for bigfoot.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
I'd like to do it. We've got a bunch of equipment.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yeah, never we we haven't really looked for bigfoot yet. No,
well we've been in the woods, but no bigfoot hunt.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Now we've always been doing something else, so it'd be fun.
I want to thank everybody for showing up for the
or coming in for the show and everything. And right now,
we don't have anything planned this Saturday.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Show yet, not yet. We'll let we'll let you know
on Facebook if what we're gonna do. That'd be fun, yes, Steven, Yeah,
we got to bring cameras recorded.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Again. I want to thank everybody for showing up and
and everything. Not this today, but next Saturday, we're going
to be on the Paranormal Paul's show. Right oh yeah,
So going to Simon.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
I'm going to try to simulcast it if I get
to know how.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
But you did it once before one was on another show.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
I think when we logged in it had over here
simulcast and you could hit it. I'm not going to
be in studio that night.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
I may do it from my house, but we're going
to do the show, so.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
Okay, if you want to do it from your house,
that's fine.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
I've got the top notch internet.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
You do have awesome internet. I'm a bit jealous of
his internet. Not a bit, I'm a lot jealous of
his internet. You got the I live closer to town
and he gets fiber. Yeah, he's got cable and I
got fiber. So he has the good stuff.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
And it does work because I have like two kids,
ones playing the PlayStation, ones on their iPad or they're
on the Oculus all together. I'm watching movies, I'm working
on a computer. It's just it's gonna be can't beat
it seamless.
Speaker 3 (50:12):
Yeah, yeah, that's I'm jealous a little bit. I might
have to move out somewhere towards you now so I
can get that same internet.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, I'm on. I'll put that camper out there for you.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Yeah. We might need it if we sell the house
before we get something else. So remember you could find
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(50:46):
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(51:08):
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(51:32):
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We appreciate all of you.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Hey, if Stephen ain't busy Saturday, we could do a
show with him. Hey, yeah, you know, let me let
me know Stephen if you're busy, and if not, we'll
set her up.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
Sounds good.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yeah, thank you peaser. Bye. Have you ever wondered what
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