Artemaeus Treadwell an American experiencer of Paranormal

Artemaeus Treadwell is an American experiencer. After meeting paranormal intermediary Tillie, his life took thousands of unforeseen, unforgettable turns, from witnessing Tillie's psychic abilities, to bumping into a faerie, meeting mimics, dark entities, maybe an Egyptian god or two, seeing UFOs and strange planetary behavior and more. At home, extreme electrical events, strange scientific anomalies, apports and disappearing objects, time glitches and the Mandela Effect are positively common events. Bizarrely, his foray into the deep paranormal has transformed his personality, beliefs and understanding of psychology, reality and life in measures and ways no short of miraculous. He believes that the unknown holds many gifts, if only we can learn to embrace them- and the unique messengers who carry them.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:40):
All right, all right, welcome, everybody's bearing on the four
one one. It's Saturday. It's Saturday, and we got a
great show.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yes, it's got Arta Mayas on tonight. Yes, I'm gonna
have a great, great conversation for sure, and I can't
wait for it.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, so that was your day to day. It's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
I did a bunch of nothing, swimming swim pool. I
should have been mowing and doing some other things, but
I just took a relaxing day.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
So yeah, I should have done a few things. I
just sit and watched TV all day. So it's just
it's just one of those lazy days, I guess. Yeah,
it's all right. Uh, Like David said, we got Art
of mass treadwell. He is an American experiencer, and after
meeting paranormal intermediary Tilly, his life took thousands of unforeseen,

(02:42):
unforgettable turns, from witnessing Tilly's psychic abilities to bumping into
a faery. I'd like I'd like to hear that story. Uh,
meeting mimics, dark entities, I've met a fairy. Yeah yeah, uh,
maybe even meeting Egyptian an Egyptian god or two.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
That's that's that's that's conversation.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Seeing UFOs and strange planetary behavior and more at home,
extreme electrical events, strange scientific anomalies, uh, and disappearing objects,
time glitches, and the Mandela effect are positively common events. Bizarrely,

(03:30):
his foray in the deep hereonormal has transformed his personality, beliefs,
and understanding of psychology, reality and life and measure, and
weighs no short of miraculous. He believes that the unknown
holds many gifts if only we can learn to embrace

(03:50):
them and the unique messengers who carry them. So we're
going to welcome Ardamass to the stage here. How you doing, sir, Hey,
how you doing?

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Ellus? I'm doing very well. How about y'all.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Oh, doing good, doing good.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
I probably blotched that I couldn't read for some reason.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
That's okay, you know, I need to work on amending
it a little bit because there's some long ex sentences
in there too.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
So yeah, it's a good one though. And so you're
an American experiencer.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yeah, American experiencer, for whatever that's worth. I guess kind
of to give everybody a lightweight background. Prior to meeting Tilly,
my life was rather unremarkable, pretty average, I would say,
and my background generally was in human psychology, animal behavior,
that sort of arc. And yeah, I thought I knew

(04:46):
a whole lot about life. You know, attended university, and
you know, at that age you're pretty well full of yourself.
You think you know it all. But yeah, after meeting Tilly,
a lot of that changed. And of course that's part
of the reason why I'm here talking on your channel,
because there's quite a bit to get to.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
So awesome, awesome. So how how did that start with you?

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah, I mean with with Tilly? Yeah yeah, so yeah, so,
I mean we were both looking for relationship met and
online dating. That's kind of what kids of our generation do.
And you know, we actually started with conversations about ancient aliens, ironically,
and that's kind of what got us, brought us together.

(05:29):
And I don't know how much time exactly I'll have
to talk about all the details. But Tilly, you know,
being the unique individual that she is, I have noticed
in being with her that people generally have some pretty
polarized responses to her right from the get go when
they meet her. She tends to draw out some extreme

(05:51):
responses from from folks, and it's usually like a mirror.
It tends to indicate whatever they have going on, you know,
under the surface. We as humans will kind of mask
and hide things, bring that right out whether you want
it or not. And when I first met her in person,

(06:13):
so we had exchanged messages for some time, build up
some goodrapport, and thought, okay, so probably be a good idea,
so bothered to arrange a meeting in person. And you know,
I can look back on it now as funny and
admit it with full humility that when I saw her
come out of her apartment just so happy, just bouncing
and you know, joyful about this date, I just remember thinking, ugh,

(06:37):
nobody can be that happy, and like, throughout the course
of our relationship. She's just always been and has always
been described, even by psychics or other people that have
met her, as just this pure ball of love energy,
you know, and that's I guess what you might call
crystal the crystal beings, you know, very very pure and

(07:01):
you know, me having grown up the way that I did,
which was a military family. So my father was in
the Marines, you know, pretty tough branch of the military.
And so if that's any indication to you on precisely
how I was to manage my emotions and my personality,
it's pretty much how it went, you know. And yeah,

(07:21):
so when I met her, I just was kind of
screwed up, you know, within myself, thinking that I wasn't
and you know, we luckily she tolerated my behavior, perhaps
in a very again compassionate and loving way, seeing you know,
beyond that wall that I had put up, and it
eventually got better. We ended up in a mall where

(07:44):
we were talking, had good conversation to the point where
the mall had actually shut down. The security guards didn't
even know that we were there, which was also very strange.
We went to go leave the mall and we were
locked in but yeah, yeah, weird, weird stuff, and I mean,
you know, not something that you would think would actually happen,
but it did and afforded us more time to talk.

(08:06):
And so, you know, the end of the night, I
go to take her home, she gets in the car,
and I keep thinking about this moment and the best
way to describe it, and the only thing that I
come up with is that she decided to delineate to me,
described to me that she knew my innermost soul essence.

(08:29):
And then she began to, you know, describe this and
these were things that I had never told anybody else
about before, just sort of these feelings of you know,
knowing of my past lives and maybe knowing deeper about
myself that you know, usually that's sort of intimacy we
don't share with other talking about you know, disclosure generally

(08:55):
in the public. But she started telling me about my self,
and there was this overwhelming feeling of actually being seen
for the first time for who I felt that I was,
very very deep down down at my core, and an
experience that I think a lot of people when they're
trying to get into relationship, they search for to be known,

(09:18):
not only known, and seen but loved on that level too,
that kind of love that some people describe when they
have a near death experience, you know, that white light,
and this is all encompassing surrounding love. People that do
mushrooms or you know, psilocybin DMT, that kind of stuff.
That was the essence of what I was getting from
this message from her. And in order to validate some

(09:41):
of that information, she told me that there was a
being that was presenting himself to her as a Native
American chieftain, you know, full regalia, and that he said
he was there to help facilitate this relationship, this budding relationship,
and that you know, our souls had a tract we
went way back, and that we had a very distinct

(10:03):
purpose while we were here together. And I mean, what
do you do when you're faced with something like that?
You know, this just absolute vulnerability, that just I mean,
every mask and defense and wall that you'd ever built
was just instantaneously stripped away.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
And what was your feeling when she's told you that
though for the first time, when she said that you
had these past lives and you had this soul contract,
what was your first thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (10:35):
There there were literally no thoughts, only the pure emotion,
the connection of the feeling, like when people say that
they get telepathic communication, that it's not really words, it's
more of you know, feelings and pictures and emotions. All
of that was coming through, like more than I had
ever bothered to feel since, you know, being a child

(10:58):
and shutting all of that stuff down just to kind
of protect myself the way that I grew up, you know.
And so she tells me about this being that's there
and presenting himself in a certain way, and that was
her way of validating what she was saying, that this
entity calling himself chief and presenting the way that he
did was there speaking with her, And immediately I knew

(11:22):
who she was talking about, which this was that piece
of information that I mean, if I didn't believe her
with what she was saying before, there was enough in
that to completely seal the deal for me. My father
collected Native American memorabilia, even though we have none of
that in our ancestry as far as I can tell,
at least not in this lifetime. And who exactly as

(11:48):
she described this portrait was actually hanging just outside my
bedroom wall and her family home, so literally every day.
As I came into and out of my bedroom, you know,
living my life, this entity was there essentially watching over me.
And she had never been to my house at that point.
This was the first time we ever met in person,

(12:09):
and yeah, it was it was quite the initial experience
that we'll say.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, Sheil says she would like to meet Tilly.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, she is something for sure, and you know, I
usually she has me and for maybe reasons we'll get
to discuss further in the episode here. She typically has
me come on to sort of you know, lay the
bridge and the groundwork to communicate with people beforehand, and
then she'll come on usually as a second episode because

(12:43):
she she has had a lot of trouble integrating with
the average person as a neuro divergent individual. I know
that words thrown around a lot, but she absolutely qualifies
as a neurodivergent type, which does present some challenges to
her when just trying to communicate, socialize, and integrate with

(13:03):
the average person. So, like you could say, like some
of the people in the autism community, you know, high
functioning autism, they tend to have some social differences that
she absolutely fits that category. So yeah, to Sharon, she'll
happily come on and have a chat next time.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Awesome.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, she sounds like a wonderful person.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
She does, she is. Yeah, that's now when you first
knowing that YouTube for when you you know, first started talking,
you just doing the ancient aliens type thing and talking
about all that kind of stuff. So obviously you was
into that. But when she starts talking, when y'all are
actually on this first date and she starts talking about

(13:48):
a lot of this other metaphysical stuff, what was your
thoughts on that or had you already started touching in
that stuff in your lifetime at that point?

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, great question. I had started started to kind of
dip my toes in the all you know, quote unquote
alternative education scene because I had gotten you know, the
standardized academic education at university and was curious about a
little more. And like I said, I hadn't had too
much that had happened to me a couple of clearvoyant dreams,

(14:20):
which is largely where a lot of my paranormal experiences
happen is in the twilight you know, sleep stage or
in deep sleep, and so I had started to question, like, Okay,
I'm having these clearvoyant dreams. There's got to be some
explanation for this that I've not yet touched into. So
that's where you know, learning about this esoteric and you know,

(14:42):
paranormal information started to kind of trickle in, and then
here she comes with this bomb, and you know, lucky
for her, she at that point knew, you know, only
to kind of reveal a little bit at a time,
because generally with humans, you can't let all the crazy
out all at once because that'll spook them in scaremoid.
So you know, she you know, started to drip feed

(15:04):
a little bit of this, knowing that I didn't know
anywhere near as much as she did or had experienced,
and of course not wanting to sound crazy herself with
her experiences. So there wasn't much more that happened In
that first i'd say year year and a half or so.
It kind of you know, quieted down a little bit.
Probably gave me that time to digest what it was

(15:26):
that had happened, and and also process a lot of
the past life emotional load, the karmic stuff. You know
a lot of that I did. In fact, you know,
during those first few times where we spent more time
in person, it was like a floodgate. I started feeling
all of the incredibly tragic ways that our interaction together

(15:48):
on this planet had ended, you know, consistent failure and
a lot of a lot, like I said, a lot
of trauma. And I just I was feeling all of it,
all of the times that you know, she had passed
before me, or some tragedy had happened to separate us.
And you know, days of this went by me, you know,
processing this until finally she said, Man, you're bumming me out,

(16:10):
Like we're here, now, we're alive, we got a new mission, like,
let's let's go do this, you know, And I'm like, no,
I need, I need to brocess this because it's all
just coming out. But anyway, so all of that kind
of had to run through the pipes before we moved
to Florida. Then about a year and a half after
we met, we moved to Florida. And for anybody that

(16:31):
knows much about the paranormal, it must be the vibration
of this land that is just conducive to weird stuff.
But that's when more of the paranormal activity, the actual
in person experiences started to kick up for me.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
So so what kind of of these activities did start happening.
When they started happening, like what what? What's Was it
more of a paranormal as in dost activity or was
another type of activity.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah, so that's also interesting that you bring that up,
because I had the last person that I was talking
to asked me to kind of define what I mean
by paranormal because I guess that means different to a
lot of people.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Well, see, all that's why we call ourselves paranormal experiences.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, sorry, you might be pitching out a little bit
for me. The paranormal experience, I'm sorry. Paranormal covers every
experience that the typical academic community can't explain for me.
So that's just a big bucket that catches everything. So cool,

(17:44):
all right. So for me, the very first experience that
I had was one that started to get me questioning
about quantum realities and different you know, versions of reality
that we're experiencing at any given moment. And it started
with a very benign thing, but impactful nonetheless. So I

(18:04):
had lost my phone briefly, and I knew that the
last place that I had it, or so I thought,
was somewhere in the bedroom, and so I'm you know, going,
I'm pulling the blankets off the bed, bed, night stand,
you know, all the usual places, and I can't find it.
So now I'm thinking, all right, maybe my memory isn't

(18:26):
all that great. So I'm moving throughout other parts of
the house. Still can't find it. Now I'm starting to
look in places where I there's no way it could be,
you know, like under the couch or in the fridge
or you know, somewhere weird, you know, And no, no, no,
can't find it. So I go back to the bedroom. Okay,

(18:46):
it's got to be here, And it's only about maybe
ten minutes that had passed. And previously, as I said,
I had pulled the blankets off the bed, you know,
touched all over the bed, under the pillows. It's not there.
But I go to run my hand over the surface
of the bed again and I hit what feels like
my phone, But it's underneath the fitted sheet of the bed.

(19:08):
And I hadn't pulled the fitted sheet off, hadn't remade it.
Tilly's not the kind of person to play any kind
of prank with that sort of thing, because she wants
those experiences to be as believable without you know, any
doubt as possible. She doesn't create doubt for that. So
I sure enough pull back the fitted sheet, and there

(19:29):
is my phone, and I know that I had checked,
and I know there's no way that I could have
somehow put it underneath there. And so I'm standing there
wheels turn and trying to figure this out. And you know,
I think at that moment, Tilly kind of took the
hint and you know, hey, do you know anything about
the quantum you know, quantum realities, And no, I have

(19:51):
no idea what you're talking about. And so thus began
the education. And yeah, so quantum reality is all happening simultaneously,
and you know, we occasionally will lose things into different
realities and they will pop back in. And if that
phone had been anywhere, just like I don't know, maybe
on the nightstand when I thought I left it in

(20:11):
the bed, or it was out on the couch when
I thought it was in the bedroom, I would have
dismissed it. But under the fitted sheet, for me, there
wasn't any explanation for it other than it literally disappeared
into a quantum reality, came back, but in my reality
in a slightly different way that the only explanation could
be just that quantum entanglement.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
So yep, yep. We had a show on the many
worlds theory and kind of got into a lot of
the you know, the quantum aspects of a lot of
that stuff. So yeah, it's it's it's a pretty deep
concept for sure.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
You know.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, Oscar says, happens to me a lot. I think
it's taken then put back.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah, yeah, or it could be Yeah, it definitely could
be some alter geist type of material, depending on I
suppose what your your your personal vibration is attracting. So,
you know that the experiences that I have had, and
generally when I speak about of learning more about non

(21:23):
human psychology and what that can learning about that, what
that can do to help improve our own lives, you know,
in interpersonal relationships, and also informs the quality of paranormal
experience that we have. So having done a lot of
studying that I did about the ego, you know, human psychology,

(21:47):
and then grafting that onto what I eventually learned about
non human psychology, I realized that we we have a
lot more control over our own lives and our experiences
with the paranormal if we do what Jung Carl Jung
would call the shadow work. You know that that introspective

(22:09):
work that when you go to therapy is sort of
what that's meant for. And I realized, after doing all
of my own inner work, how how the two mesh
so well that when you actually take responsibility and you
do that sort of inner work and you become more
self aware, more conscious again, the types of paranormal experiences

(22:33):
that you have completely change. And so I have tons
and tons of theories and another anecdotal information to share
about that should you want to go that direction, or
I can pick another couple of paranormal stories to tell you.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Wherever you want to wherever you want to go.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, I mean, we love stories and.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
So cool, Yeah, we love theories we do, all right,
all right cool?

Speaker 4 (22:59):
So yeah, all right, So let's let me try to
nutshell this for you. So when I met Tilly, obviously
I had a lot of inner work to do. You know,
I was very unrefined, and you know, through exposure to her,
the type of psychology that she has, which is more
akin to the non human psychology, and maybe a lot

(23:20):
of neurodivergent people are learning the differences between the two.
Literally having that contrast, ironically actually helped me to work through,
you know, all of my my inner baggage basically, and
so you know that that was a process that took
some time. But she had she had told me that

(23:43):
the work that she did with the Catholic Church, so
she was doing exorcisms with the Catholic Church, and what
then and she was able to communicate with the so
called demons that were causing all the ruckouts and the
mischief in the house. The demons would say, look, you know,
we're only here because there's food. You know, there's a

(24:05):
particular vibration that these individuals are putting out, and whether
they realize it or not, they're engaging in a contractual
agreement that if they put this out, it's going to
attract us. And she didn't have a very good time
trying to explain that to the people in the house
because the people in the house just wanted the entities

(24:27):
to go away, come and throw some holy water, say
a few prayers, and you know, fix my problem basically
because it has nothing to do with me, when in reality,
the demons were just there, you know, as a byproduct
essentially of their behavior so every single time she would
notice there'd be something like substance abuse or domestic violence,

(24:49):
you know, something along those lines that we might call
low vibe you know, behavior that these entities were feeding
off of. And she would try to explain this to
the people like, hey, maybe don't beat your kids, maybe
don't drink, you know, try that first and see what happens,
you know, and those individuals would have, you know, none
of that, basically, So she quit doing that work essentially

(25:13):
until she could figure out how to get around the
human ego, which is where I came in, mister massive
ego himself. So it was, yeah, it was through working
on me essentially that she began to fully grasp, you know,
the the depth and the control that the human ego

(25:34):
has over a person, and that what they have to
do to in some ways not supersede it, but learn
how to work with it. Because I'm not saying that
an ego is a bad thing, it's not. It's what
we need here to learn to survive, essentially, operate with
other human beings or less aware who are less aware. Essentially,

(25:54):
there reaches a point where you are developed enough mentally
to take personal words of asibility and be able to
change your own personal vibration and avoid the places where
you know, people who don't take personal responsibility and abuse
and all those things tend to just reside. So that

(26:16):
was in a nutshell, I guess kind of what I learned.
And almost all of my paranormal experiences have been neutral
to very positive, and I'll share the one very negative
experience with you because I think it helps demonstrate that

(26:36):
difference between you know, average human psychology and non human psychology.
And it was it happened in you know, one of
my twilight states where I'm not quite asleep but not
fully awake, and that brain wave state would be called theta.
So you have alpha, beta, beta, delta, Delta being deep sleep,

(26:59):
Alpha being like a calm, meditative state, and beta being
the state that the brainwave state that people are in
most of the time. That's either heavy fight or flight
or you know, direct focus competition, air and running, you
know that sort of like sports sports athletes would be
in might be in a you know, a high beta,

(27:21):
so high beta low beta always get mixed up anyway.
So I'm in that theta brainwave state, which is like
a radio frequency. It's a particular state that allows you
to be able to experience and communicate with whatever entities
are also choosing to be on that frequency. So I'm
sitting in bed, I'm sitting up, and I'm looking straight ahead,

(27:44):
and to my left there's a mirror on the wall,
and as I'm looking straight ahead, out of my periphery,
I see something move in that mirror, and I know,
because I'm looking straight ahead that it's nothing in the room.
And that's when here I'm back, my neck stands up,

(28:05):
that portion of your brain that's always scanning for a
threat that goes, hey, something doesn't match up here. This
is not an experience that you're used to having pay attention,
and so I get, you know, obviously, I'm all right
now I'm in fight or flight, you know. And I
turned to look over at the mirror, and coming through

(28:27):
the mirror headfirst and extremely large is a very dark entity,
some humanoid type thing. And this happened in a matter
of seconds. I had zero control over the reaction that
I had at this point, which was the pure essence

(28:50):
of sheer terror. And I've never felt this before in
my life. I've lived a pretty cozy life despite having
marine for a father, there really wasn't anything so terrible
as what this thing just turned on in me and
I this thing just opened a gate valve that just

(29:11):
channeled absolute horror and visceral panic. And again I had
no control over it. But the feeling that I was getting,
you know, sort of from that telepathic communication, was that
this thing was responsible for it, and I had no
control over it. And it was a really humbling experience.

(29:32):
And up to that point, I'd had a little bit
of training with lucid dreaming. So this happened several years
into my relationship with Tilly, when I started to try
to refine some things for myself, and so I did
my queue to end that dream segment and I, you know,
come fully awake, and I look over and of course

(29:53):
the mirror is not on the wall, and Tilly sound
asleep next to me, and because I had come to
try her at this point, I wake her up and
I tell her, hey, you know, I don't think this
thing meant anything good, obviously, because of the feeling that
I was getting that was intended for me to experience.
And you know, she kind of does her you know,

(30:15):
internal scan. Whatever it is is not here anymore, and
I'm not really sensing anything, So let me see what
I can come up with after you, you know, leave
and go for work, because we don't need that conflict
of interest there. Basically, so you know, wise of her.
So I leave and come back later from work, and
she tells me that she invited this entity in the house,

(30:40):
and she realized pretty quickly where her mistake had been.
So she had recently been discussing with a colleague about
this exact entity and what he or she was doing
interacting with humanity, what goal they had, and this entity
didn't appreciate that sort of discussion whatsoever. So, being Tilly,

(31:07):
and you know, very humble and apologetic individual that she is, said,
I'm so sorry. I didn't mean for this to happen,
you know, please let me know what I can do
to make this right. And so they came up with
three rules that were always to be followed, and as

(31:30):
long as those three rules were followed, everything would be kosher. Basically,
the way that non human psychology works is that two people,
whoever parties, any parties that are involved in a situation,
they all come together and they will all make agreements

(31:52):
that are amenable to everybody involved. And those are binding
agreements that are not to be chained for any reason
unless everybody comes back to the table, has a discussion
and new agreements are set and made. It doesn't matter
if you know later on down the road. Oh, I'm
just in a bad mood, and so I'm just not going,

(32:17):
you know, the ends justify the means sort of argument.
So I'm going to violate this tenant like humans usually do.
It's not that way at all. It is always mutual,
always clearly defined, and that's the end of that. Really.
It's it's pretty simple. So when she explained this to me,
I thought, wow, you know, if only all of humanity

(32:40):
could could remember their agreements and then actually keep them
instead of consciously violating them like we do. So yeah,
that was different I noticed immediately from you know, non
human versus human and that was several years ago. Have

(33:01):
not had a single interaction with that entity since. And
you know, I asked her later, I was like, so,
you know, if the beef was with you, why why
would this entity come to me? And she basically, now
it makes sense to me, said that, you know, her
particular vibration is too high to enact any kind of

(33:26):
punishment like that. So this entity could have asked to
approach her, you know, and work out an agreement. But
the way this entity likes to operate more is, no,
I'm going to go after what's you know, closer to
you and more on my vibration, the type of vibration
that I like to engage in and go that route,

(33:47):
which clearly this vibration was that of abject horror, which was,
you know, easy to reach me on that level because
as I learned, you know, through my my later studies
and therapeutic pursuits, that I have a pretty low threshold
for anxiety and panic, and so it's very very easy

(34:11):
to trip that within me. As much of a tough
guy as i'd like to think that I am, I'm not,
And you know, having that kind of humility is step
number one to raising your vibration ironically, and then even
if you do have a low threshold for panic and anxiety,
you will be far less likely to become a target

(34:32):
of those individuals because of that humility that kind of
in some ways offsets that vibration, if that makes any sense.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
So these entities are this entity? Do you do you
think it was a dimensional being?

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Or was it et or what do you think I
was gonna say that much? I don't know, and I
can't really say because I'll be totally honest with you.
After that experience that was That was one of those okay,
there's a bigger fish and I'm not that bigger fish moments.
And you know when Tilly says, like, you stick to
these three agreements and you're gonna be fine, I said,

(35:16):
you got it. Anyway that I can avoid this, you know,
essential uh colonoscopy on level ten, right?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Take that?

Speaker 4 (35:28):
So I, uh, yeah, yeah, I tend to avoid any
and all stuff about it, other than to use the
story as an example to let people know, like, hey,
there's bigger fish. Learn some humility. And also, you know,
this difference in psychology is one that if we can
maybe work on being mindful about in our day to

(35:50):
day lives, it improves relationships, at least genuine intimate relationships.
Can't speak for other people who aren't quite on that vibe,
and that's okay, But if you want to improve and
you want to have, you know, be on that vibration
of the more genuine intimate type of relationships, that's how
you do it.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
So m.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
But so after that encounter, like I said, and that
being the only what I would say is truly terrible encounter,
but a necessary and an educational one. Nonetheless, I further
on here in my development and education. I more recently,

(36:32):
let's say it was probably within the last six months
or so, had the Egyptian God interaction, which was totally
cool for me. So it was it was in a
deep sleep state, so all the way in the same
states that I have my clairvoyant dreams, and I am

(36:52):
walking along a sidewalk, you know, and there's a strip
mall essentially or you know, cafes, shops whatever on my inside,
and I see this what looks to me to be
a pretty interesting, you know, little trinket shop, kind of
like that little shop where in the movie Gremlins the
main character finds gizmo where there's that you know, little

(37:14):
dadding Asian guy you know, in these crazy you know,
little shop of horrors basically all around him. And so
I'm like, no, it looks interesting, You'll pop in. So
I walk in and there's you know, people milling around,
and from the back of the store comes this little
Asian man. He sees me come in and he goes, hey,
what you need is over there, and I mean I

(37:36):
didn't think anything of it. Typically, you know, in the
wakeful state, in our day to day lives, you walk
into a shop you've never been in before, man you've
never met in your life looks at you and says, hey,
what you need is down there. Might make you go
that's not normal. Maybe dream states. I notice where that

(38:00):
portion of my brain that fight or flight, the default
mode network as they call it, is offline. Essentially, I'm
much more objective, and I mean calm is certainly an
after effect. I think that happens of it, but it's
a completely different brain state. So in that state, we're
not looking for threats like we are here day to day.

(38:21):
We're open to experiences because there's generally nothing threatening to
us in those in those states. So I see him,
he points me over to the wall. I don't see
what he's talking about. So he's like, no, no, no,
around the wall, and sure enough is a brick wall, pacide,
but it like blended seamlessly with the wall behind it.

(38:44):
And so I you know, look and sure enough there's
a staircase that goes down, which for anybody that knows
esoteric knowledge, you know, therapeutic analogies, you know that staircase
down to the depths, you know of your inner world essentially.
So this staircase I'm going down and it opens up

(39:05):
at the base to this big movie theater, and on
the screen, they're playing something that's got Egyptian priests and
priestesses that I assume milling about and they are interacting
with speaking with these Egyptian gods and goddesses. So I
sit down at the back of the movie theater and
I'm watching for a minute, and the crocodile headed god

(39:28):
comes on the screen and is talking to one of
the priests and then turns to face the audience, and
there are other people in the theater, turns to face
the audience and then steps through the screen, and so
you know, as a you know, big movie screen, it's
obviously it's huge, But as he's walking down the aisle

(39:49):
towards me, he's kind of shrinking in size, so he's
able to kind of manage his size until he gets
back to me, and he's still taller than me, but
not threateningly so, and I'm taking in his appearance, which
was like high definition more than we get in our
day to day lives. Like if you were to look

(40:11):
at one of those you know, Oled Crystal, you know,
five thousand dollars TVs at Best Buire or whatever like that,
just cranked up like the movie What Dreams May Come,
or a crouching tiger, hidden dragon, just amazing color and texture.
And I could see all the bumps and bridges you
know of the crocodile skin. But it wasn't you know,

(40:34):
rough looking. It was handsome, Like the dude had this color,
this richness and depth and the smoothness, but still the
crocodile skin. That just it's so hard for me to
explain because I've never seen anything like it. His robes
just you know, crisp all the way to the floor,
and he's wearing this big the headdress, the Pharaoh head dress,

(40:58):
which is as I later found out, was some research,
wasn't typical for this entity. But I didn't. I didn't.
I wasn't familiar with him at all. I'm only lightly
familiar with some of the basic Egyptian gods and goddesses.
Didn't know this one. And so he starts to talk
to me. And it was funny because it was like
a badly dubbed movie where I could sort of see

(41:20):
like the lips moving a bit and the tongue, you know,
flapping in his mouth, but you know, not not quite
you know, like it would articulate if if it were human.
So I'm noticing all this, and he's just talking to
me like, you know, like I'm another person, no big deal,
and I'm just listening to him like this isn't an
Egyptian crocodile headed god talking to me, you know, And

(41:41):
it was it was so mutual and personable that I
was like, man, I you know, I wish that more
relationships could be like this, just you know, no agenda,
no you know, nothing, no ego behind it, you know,
thinking judging what they're doing or judging what I'm doing.
You know that it was just a refreshingly frank conversation

(42:03):
and he was creating a message to me, but it
was actually for Tilly. It wasn't for me saying, you know,
tell her that you know, she's doing a good job,
that it's not her fault that things haven't been working
the way that she thought that they would, and she'll
figure it out. There'll be a way to you know,

(42:26):
do what it is that she wants to do. She's
she's done, great, It's okay, basically, And so I didn't.
I mean, I don't know what he's talking about. It
didn't sound like anything that she had discussed with me.
So when I wake up, I promptly tell her about
this dream, and she goes, you know, I haven't said
anything to you about this yet. But she had started

(42:48):
her own YouTube channel some time ago, and as I
was telling you about giving information to people during exorcisms
while she was working with the Catholic Church, the information
that she was trying to give on her YouTube channel
was getting a lot of black from people because I
guess she was just being too direct and too frank
about how to interact with paranormal entities. If you'd like

(43:12):
to have a better experience, if you don't, essentially it's
mostly your fault. And that was not landing very well,
you know. And so she's like I. She also had
been approached by government officials and from other higher ups
in the more mass media that we get about this

(43:32):
sort of stuff. Think maybe producers of shows like Ancient Aliens.
I'm not saying that it is that show, but stuff
on that level and they were saying to her, approaching her, saying,
you know, we want you to tell a particular narrative.
We don't really want you sharing what it is that
you're sharing, but we have information that we would like
to put in the public consciousness and we would like

(43:54):
you to give it with hell no, that's I'm not
here for that, essentially, And there were other types of
you know, threats like harassment. Will say, you know, certain
types of harassment that I won't say on the is
going on YouTube. I don't want to get you guys
strikes or anything like that. But yeah, so she just

(44:17):
she was tired of it. You know, she wasn't getting
the type of progress I don't want to say progress.
She wasn't getting a type of engagement or you know,
positive effect effect that she wanted to have. So she
was pulling away from it, but still feeling like she's
got to do something, but not knowing what. And so
I give her this message and she's like, you know,

(44:40):
that makes total sense to me, thank you. And at
that point things kind of you know, really started to
come together because from what I understand, the way that
I interpreted it was that this God came to me
to give her, to give her this message as a
twofold thing to that have coming to her directly to

(45:02):
give me this message to tell her to say, hey,
this guy finally has most of his crap work through
that He's got this, you know, years and years of
education and how to talk to people with massive egos
and you know, how to basically work with people to
you know, bring that down to a healthier, manageable level essentially.

(45:26):
And you know, I now being on that vibration, that
was my initiation basically, and so what we started doing
from that point was on our channel now, the Weird
Walk Home on YouTube, I have done a series of
videos called the Intermediary Diaries where I essentially take all

(45:49):
of these paranormal experiences that I've had with Tilly since
mating her and give the lesson, you know, the parable
whatever it is out of that that I have learned,
combining that with my understanding of human psychology, to help
people have not only better experiences within their own lives,
but to have better paranormal experiences. Now that we're post disclosure,

(46:13):
if people wish to have some say in the type
of interactions that they have with the paranormal and I
think they probably do that. Here's how you can do that.
You can ually have control over that and and it
starts with you know, kno going to go back a
little bit, a little bit. So yeah, it was it

(46:36):
was really cool to have that. And uh yeah, I
don't really know where you want to go from there.
I have more more stories that I can share, but
that's a lot to chew on, so I just.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Subscribe to the Weird Welcome. I didn't know how to
you about. Thank you, but we will definitely, we'll definitely
keep watching for sure. I mean you you're definitely correct
when you said your education helped you with your speaking
and you tell your story great man, Thank you.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Also about you know, I'm in a I've been doing
this for a few years now too. As as far
as trying to m and it's a hard thing for
most people to even think about, much less to talk about.
But the ego, you know, e g oh, it's it's
a it's a small word and it really means a lot.

(47:35):
And and you know, and we some great people that
I've listened to, you know, say it the best sometimes.
But but but it's like we don't take the time
to know ourselves well, like you was talking about how
you've taken the time to to to get to know yourself,

(47:59):
and we want to have everybody, Hey, I'm David, I'm
part of paranormalfore one one, or I'm a father, I'm this,
but not who I really am. Right, we associate ourselves
with the things we do and the things that we
have and these other things, and that's the ego, you know,
and to separate yourself from that a little bit actually

(48:21):
does help out when it comes to these things.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
And I'm on that that all identity, you know, we
get really entrenched in that sense of identity, and we'll
defend that sense of identity as if our lives dependent
on it, you know, like our actual lives. And that's
where getting offended, you know, by things that people say,

(48:47):
will switch us into that fight or flight brain and
immediately make us basically impenetrable to logic and reason and
you know, anything of that nature. We get rettle stuck
in that area and we're not reachable at that point,
which is also a place where you are out of control,

(49:10):
completely out of control. Your lizard brain is now the
thing that is in the driver's seat so you uh,
when you entertain that vibration, you've become very easily manipulated.
And for certain entities out there, that's great food. You
are a puppet based to all different areas of your life.

(49:31):
You know, when you're having a road rage incident, you
do something stupid, or a boxer who you know is
more about just wanting to pound the other guy's face
in because he's just angry at his dad. You know,
he's probably the guy that's going to get his butt
beat because the other guy is you know, pulling more
of a karate kid and is you know, getting into
that zen mindset. He's not mad, he's calculating. He's actually

(49:53):
able to think. And there's those are actual different brain
states that you're in when when those are happening. So
and that's again those radio frequencies that put you on
certain levels of interaction with those interdimensional entities. Interdimensional it's
just a different vibration frequency. It's it's all around us.

(50:15):
You know, when you learn that, it's that's a whole
different a whole different world to operate in.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
It is especially when my whole life I've I've operated
in a very low state, a very very low state.
For a long time, I was not a very nice
person at all. But you know, when you're trying to
make that change, have you noticed though, that things around

(50:44):
you try to trip you back into that state as
much as they can. Because that's like, the more that
I try to to change into that to this new
person that I want to be, something tries to pull
me back to this other state of who I used
to be.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
Let me reframe that for you. I think I can
actually help you. So rather than looking at it as
instances that are trying to pull you back in, because
that sort of mentality is essentially it's a victim hood mentality,
things are happening to you, not for you. So you

(51:25):
can empower yourself by saying, these are instances that I'm
being presented with as an opportunity to react differently, as
an opportunity to respond differently, So I can see where
the perspective would come from where initially it seems like
you're getting a lot of those opportunities that are coming

(51:49):
to you, when really what's happening is that you're developing awareness.
So now you actually see those instances, which is kind
of step one is actually admitting and seeing you know,
in what is it alcoholics Anonymous? In any time you're healing,
admit you got a problem. You know there's one. Okay,
you've got to start there. Now you're seeing it, all right.

(52:09):
So now that you see it, you can feel what's
what's happening within you, and you have a window where
you can do something differently to change that response and
change that brain wave state and have a different outcome.

(52:30):
And it may not feel like the thing that you
want to do because you've been trained to do a
certain thing in certain circumstances over and over and over again.
Those pathways in your brain, everything that's wired, is wired
a certain way because of that trained experience. So I'm
not gonna lie. It has been the hardest thing I
have ever had to do in my life is trying

(52:51):
to retrain that. But over time, if you don't beat
up on yourself and you you know, you give some
compassion for yourself. Okay, I'm trying. I'm doing this differently.
Don't make excuses, but you know, keep trying little by little,
and it's it's taken me the better part of ten years.
So to give you a timeframe here of what's realistic
to expect that you know, over time you won't actually

(53:17):
experience those instances that are quite so aggravating because you
are changing your vibration and through if you believe in
law of attraction, you are no longer pulling those things
towards you at such a frequent amount frequent state. So
it's two fold. You do get less of those instances,

(53:40):
the better you get because your vibration changes, and you
also know how to handle the occasional you know, chunk
of poop that gets flung your way and it won't
throw you off balance because you've already you're practicing a
better vibration and you have a different way to look
at it now. So that's kind of where I I
am at this point in fact. To give you this

(54:02):
is not a paranormal story, but a quick side note,
I had a guy who was just bloody and raged
that I came out in front of him when the
lanes were merging at a construction site. I thought there
was more time and there wasn't, and I had to
cut over and I could literally hear him screaming explotives

(54:24):
at me for getting in front of him, and we
ended up in the same place like it wasn't like I,
you know, made him late by minutes and minutes or
miles and miles. It wasn't anything at all. But for
him and I just looking at him, I could tell
he was the type of guy that probably had a
dad who was absolutely awful to him, or an absent dad,
or you know, something that was really rough in his

(54:46):
childhood that he had no control as a kid, and
so the only control he has now as an adult is,
you know, on every single thing that he can grab.
You cut me off in front of me, or you
did this, or you did that, and you know, I'm
gonna punish you, because that's how the ego will feel
better if you let the ego drive your behavior.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Right.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
But as I'm listening to this guy and I'm stuck,
I'm thinking, dear God, like we're sitting in traffic. He
could get out if he wanted to and just you know,
destroy my car with whatever he wanted to, you know,
but he didn't. He's just sitting there, you know, blow
and steam blowing, fuse about it, and in my mind

(55:32):
tried to do something. Obviously, I'm gonna defend myself. But
the first thing that came to mind was man, you
must have had it really rough as a kid, you know,
and not in like a descending or condescending, piteous sort
of way, just like instead of also getting mad at
this guy like you know, boy, you man for you know,
getting mad at me for cutting you off, like I
could do that could be here too, you know, like whatever,

(55:53):
getting outrighteous and indignant. No, I'm just you know, in
my mind going, yeah, you're in a rough man. For
something like that to make you fly off the handle
and raise your blood pressure that much, you know, it's
really not a big deal, dude, But to him it
was again with everything that probably happened him as a kid.
So all that to say that, you know, you you

(56:15):
will have those experiences initially a lot as opportunities to
train yourself. But in time, that's like the worst thing
that I can think that's happened to me in a
long time, you know, And it was it was pretty big.
It was a big incident. But yeah, nothing since really
since that. So anyway, hopefully that answers your question.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Yep, yep, absolutely it does.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Cool, thank you, Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Are you okay if we take a quick break and
I'll let you get a drink of water something about
four minutes.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
That sounds perfect, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
We'll do a quick break and uh come back. And
I know there's a couple of questions in the chat room.
Cool and well more stories, because yeah, more stories I
got worried about. We got we got two hours, Yeah,
an hour left.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
Out, so excellent.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Cool, plenty of time.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
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I could find the break, here we go. Yeah. Uh,
and we'll be back. We're talking to Artamatus Treadwill and uh.
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Yeah, it's awesome. I can't wait for the second half.

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Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
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Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Well, and will love studying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Law start you'll say about it's got a boy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
The bother?

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Alright, alright, we are back talking to arda mass treadwell

(01:01:51):
if you just joined us, and he is a great
guest and a great speaker talking about some of his experiences.
I know we had a question, you know, when we
were talking about dreaming your dream oscars ask if you

(01:02:11):
always remembered your dreams.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Ah, fantastic question. So I don't. And I actually I
have a little bit of a theory on that I
think worth sharing that It seems to me the dreams
that I remember are dreams that are channeling something from
what we would call the other side. So I mean,

(01:02:34):
they can be all different. It could be clairvoyant dreams.
Or messages, downloads that we're getting something that would be helpful,
you know, for our lives, and or actual interactions with
other entities, and the ones that we tend not to
remember that fade when we shortly after waking up. I
think are kind of just in the brain taking out

(01:02:57):
it's daily trash.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Yeah, you know, Yeah, I've had a few few dreams
like that, and I usually don't remember my dreams, but
there was one in particular that I did, and it
was about alien entities and I was having trouble health

(01:03:24):
problems and they the dream went on and they had
acted like they were going to, you know, touch me
and heal me. And but I remember it so specifically.
It was just like I was really there and I'll
never forget that dream. And I also had an obe
once while I was sleeping.

Speaker 4 (01:03:45):
It's crazy, absolutely, So you a, do you have.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
A special way to put yourself and in the dream,
like in a dream state, or do you just it
comes naturally?

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Yeah, right now, I think I'm not reliably do I
have the ability to do that. I've started to listen
to It usually takes listening to something like a binarial
beat or a certain frequency through my headphones where I
can really zone in that way and completely draw my
attention away from the outer world the stimulus, because for me,

(01:04:25):
from what I understand, with my particular brain, it is
like super plugged into this dimension. It is hyper aware
of everything here on earth. It is survival mode kind
of that type of brain, and that makes it difficult
to unplug my awareness from everything around me and get

(01:04:45):
in what some people might call the zone or a
meditative state. I've had to really work at it, but
I have. I can sort of get there with you know,
putting the headphones on and completely dissociating from my environment
to that maybe repetitive thing drums or like I said,
a certain frequency, whatever it is. But generally speaking, the

(01:05:08):
easiest way for me is just when I hit those
brain wave states in sleep, I don't have to do
anything and I'm there. So yeah, that's the easier part.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Yeah, it's uh for me. I don't want to have
another OBE because it's scared the crap out of me.
I love, but I would like to dream, you know.
Like it was very lucid and I felt I did
felt like it was real. I mean, and the OBE

(01:05:42):
was real too, but it just scared me. Maybe if
I had a couple of more you know, I wouldn't
be so scared and I probably could have went further
than the top of my ceiling. But right, yeah, just
but it just brought that up just some of my experience.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Now it's totally relevant and I think interesting for you
to note that it had, you know, scared you, that
it happened. That is something that is actually just another
part of the ego part of the brain here that
anything that's out of the experience to be expected usually
triggers that fight or flight response, which is why the

(01:06:22):
more compassionate non human entities generally don't interact because they
know that they're going to interact with you in a
way that's going to, you know, trip that fight or
flight response. They don't those entities don't want that for you,
which is why you may only get to experience them
when you're in states where that portion of your brain

(01:06:42):
is offline, like doing psychedelic for example, where it's just
taken away from you, so you know, you know, they
don't have to worry about it. Why mother ayahuasca will
talk to you, you know, in that state. If somebody's
doing ayahuascar or like I did. I did an Ayahuascar retreat.
That's another story altogether, but yeah, so yeah, just offering

(01:07:03):
some some points on that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
But I always wanted to do ayahuasca, but I've done
shrooms and it was at the beginning of this whole
trying to change, you know, the way that my mind works,
and uh and and everything. And I noticed, uh, after

(01:07:28):
I did it, a big change in myself as far
as being a little bit more compassionate. I could say
that before I had very little compassion, very little and
uh and that's a selfish thing, but but I had
very little of it. And I could say that I'm

(01:07:50):
I'm much more squishy now than i than I ever
have been. Some people say my old age, you know,
but but I know the truth. And what was weird
to me, though, is that during the experience, my wife
laughed at me because I had one thing that it
seemed like it was repetitive to me. And it means

(01:08:12):
a lot to me, it really does. It's it's crazy,
but I noticed so Mother Earth or guy has started
talking to me, and uh, she was showing me how
we've dissociated ourselves from from her and from the planet.
We've dissociated ourselves with our everything, everyday things that we do,

(01:08:37):
the cars we drive in, everything we've we've completely disassociated
from Earth. I mean, how many people walk on on
the grass barefooted anymore, you know, and and do true grounding.
But the one thing that that I got off of
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Over and over and over and over, I.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Heard just breathed. Mhm, just breathe and uh. And that
probably meant more to me than than a lot of
anything else has over the over the time that I've
taken to process what happened.

Speaker 7 (01:09:12):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:09:13):
Yeah, Well, and there's there's that that one little piece
of information is so loaded with so much knowledge too,
because now we know about breathing exercises, meditative breathing, therapeutic
breathing in that way, what it can do to our
physiological systems, our heart rate, and again the different brainwave
states that we're in. It can do so much. And

(01:09:35):
then that also reminds me that when I was in
the middle of my ayahuasca you know trip I I had,
I'll just spoiler alert, I was mostly terrified the entire time.
There was a lot of stuff under there that I
had to deal with, and I knew that I didn't
know how terrible it would be, but it one thing

(01:09:57):
that had helped to ground me and I was so
grateful for was the guy next to me who was
asleep and saw in logs like you know, professional lumberjack.
And I remember going, thank you God for his snoring.
If I just focus on his snoring, I will get
through this. But he's breathing, you know, like, and that's

(01:10:19):
for me, that anxiety and everything. Like I even had
some of the people who were babysitting, essentially the Shamans
that were coming around, just being like, hey, breathe, You're
gonna be okay, Like, I know this feels horrible right now,
but just breathe, you know. So it's it's interesting that
you would mention that that's something so simple, and that's
oftentimes what it is, something so simple that we overlook

(01:10:41):
because of these egos, and you know, being selfish as
we are, that's what the ego is designed to do
in some cases, to keep you alive. So yeah, cool, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Yeah, that's pretty wild.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
I've never done a psychedelic but I probably never will.
I'm a chicken.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
That's okay, let me tell you ayahuasca, I will I
will be the first person to say that that is
not an experience that I would just casually recommend to anybody.
You have to be fully aware of what potentially you're
going to be in for, and you have to want
it because whatever comes once you're under, that's it.

Speaker 7 (01:11:22):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
You're not here. You are in it for the ride.
You are strapped in. There's no getting off that roller coaster.
So like, you better be ready for it, you know,
so if you don't want to do it, no judgment
there whatsoever. I believed that I needed my butt kicked
basically because I still felt like I just wasn't getting
over something that was holding me back. As it turns out,

(01:11:44):
it was just me. But you know, I went through
that experience and it was It was gut wrenching and awful.
But you know, I did learn a lot of things
from it, and I wouldn't repeat it, I don't think,
at least not anytime soon. But it is a teacher
for sure, and something to keep in mind again about

(01:12:05):
the psychedelics, all of them, DMT, psilocybin, LSD, that And
there's actually a psychiatrist who you can find on YouTube.
His name is Doctor of Healthy gamer GG but he
talks about how all of these psychedelics actually what they're

(01:12:27):
doing physiologically, neurologically is they are turning that default mode
network off in your brain. So the default mode network
is often referred to as your autopilot. Your experiences in
your life, they build and you kind of become sort
of narrowly focused, and that's just your ego, your brain
trying to keep you alive through saying Okay, this was

(01:12:49):
a bad experience, don't repeat it, this was a good experience.
Do this. Even though there are infinite number of combinations
of experiences and outcomes that you could have. The brain goes,
you know, narrow, narrow, narrow, more and more and more
through your just things that come to you. And because
we're not being conscious creators, we're just allowing our vibration
to bring to us the mixed bag that it does,

(01:13:10):
and the mood shifts day to day. That's why we
get mixed results all the time. That you know that
default mode network. Once you take that away with psychedelics,
it puts you back in what doctor K calls edit mode.
He's a very tech savvy, you know, gamer kind of guy.
And when you're back in edit mode, you're more objective

(01:13:30):
and you're open to you know, those kinds of downloads
new information. But also it opens you up to all
of this stuff that you have been your ego has
been consciously repressing. So if you were generally a pretty
happy person before, then like Tilly was, she and I
both did this you know, retreat that weekend, and she

(01:13:52):
had an amazing time. She was like, that was awesome.
I got to talk to Mother Ayahuasca, and I had
the elephant goddess from the Hinduism come talk to me,
and you know, the I just I got to meet
all these people and have all these experiences, and I
was me, I'm literally between huking my guts out and
convulsing in the corner and just feeling you know again

(01:14:15):
sheer panic at every turn. Total opposite experiences. But again
I believed that, you know, I needed that butt whoopn
I got it. And that was just the difference between
the high ego and then somebody like Tilly who's got
the low ego. But Tilly had actually she told me

(01:14:36):
about this that twelve years ago, well before she even
met me. She had talked about this ego being the
reason why so many people said that the ego is
the reason for in short mental illness. And when you
take psychedelics, you get you get both, you get all
your baggage that comes out at once, and then you

(01:14:58):
also put your brain back in rep programming mode, so
you have a chance to do things differently. And you know, Scott,
I don't think that I'm sorry, not Scott David. I
don't think that you being an older guy and being
squishier now the age has much of anything to do
with it, because I've met plenty of old bastards and

(01:15:18):
that age does not matter. I think you're you are
fortunate enough to have a vibrational awakening essentially during this
period of time, and and you're being given the opportunity
to change.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
So that's what I like about our friendship. He's hardcore.
He takes the hard courset up. I'm softy. I do
have a passion for people.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
But I love because James.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
He would have my back if I needed in, you know,
when I couldn't uh do sound.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
Right there.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
That's yin and yang. That's what makes a good relationship.
Opposit's attracted. That way, you guys can learn from each
other by you know, comparing notes.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
So, Yeah, it was funny when I was taking the
the mushrooms or the psilocybin, I noticed myself at first
fighting it, Yeah, fighting what was coming on, not wanting
you know, here I had taken it. It was quite

(01:16:24):
a bit, not quite a heroic dose, but it was
pretty close. And but I felt it coming on and
I was fighting it right, But it was not until
I finally let go of all that ye and and
accepted the experience that the the sickness and the pain

(01:16:47):
and all the stuff that started hitting when I was
fighting it, it vanished, It completely vanished. And then this
peace and calm came over. And then it was an
awareness of how interconnected we all are, that we're all
a piece of the same thing. And it started really

(01:17:11):
getting me down a lot of Taoism and a lot
of uh you know, going down some other other places
and and really doing some studying on some stuff. And
it was it was it was an enlightening experience for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
Yeah. Yeah, so your ego had an opportunity to go
offline for a bit, so that fighting it initially, that's
the ego, that's the ego that doesn't want to let
go of control. That wants to determine things, you know,
as it judges fit rather than just being you know,

(01:17:45):
open and accepting of you know, whatever comes. It's not fearful,
you know, not being fearful anymore of consequence. Essentially, you're
accepting personal responsibility and that's something that a lot of
people run away from. But it's that, ah, lowering that
ego than that allows you to again be able to

(01:18:06):
communicate with other non human entities. Because imagine we know
this from having a relationship with other people. But imagine
you know, a non human entity who's just trying to
talk to you, you know, frankly, plainly, you know, without
anything in the way. And then there's a human who's
you know, sitting there vacillating between freaking out like are
you going to turn my insides out? Or you know,

(01:18:28):
are you going to try to have sex with me
or something?

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
You know, like what are you going to do?

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
Like, you know, while this entity is just going, man,
it's just like can we just talk? Like can we
do that? So they just they don't bother, you know,
and that's that makes sense to me why they don't
as a result of that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
So right, yeah, say my whole life I've from the
from the age of three I was, I've been able
to see ghosts. So it's been something that I've had
my whole life. Never really been able to hear or
listen to them. They've they've never talked to me. But
when I was a kid, they scared the heck out
of me because I'd wake up and there'd be people

(01:19:06):
standing in my room. You know, they didn't look like ghosts.
They look like people. Yes, no one else could see
them but me, and I'd jump up and run out
of my room, screaming and crying, and and you know,
they would follow me around. And it took me till
about the age of five to to understand that what
they were and that they weren't there to hurt me,
and and it kind of it pretty much stopped from there,

(01:19:30):
I mean as far as me being afraid of it anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:19:33):
Right now, Yeah, right, Yeah, that's that's just that that
bit of our brain that we get when we come
to this planet, because this planet is part geared towards
survival of the meat soup that we have. Otherwise you're
not you're not going to make it here very long.
And then you know, everybody serves a purpose here, no
matter how long they are here, it's important to forwarding

(01:19:57):
the story. It just comes with, you know, lot of
other attachments, a lot of other parameters that kind of
govern our behaviors. We're not being cognizant of it or
not practicing that level of self awareness. But yeah, so
I could, I could tell some stories about mimics if you'd.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Like, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Yeah, so we do want to hear about the fairies too, so.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
Yeah, yeah, if I forget, please do remind me so
the mimics theories that I have about that or rather, okay,
so you know, we're one point I wanted to make.
I just remembered as I'm thinking about mimics. You know,
when you were saying that we're all part of the
same source, right, you know, all of us? When you

(01:20:47):
say that, I know that you mean humans for sure,
but a lot of people and maybe you maybe not.
Don't think about that and apply it to everything that
includes what we call demonic entities or you know, the
intergoalactic beings or interdimensional bigfoot, you know, cryptids, all of them.
I believe maybe anybody else out there does too, that

(01:21:08):
it's literally all from the same source. You can call
it God if you want, but it's all the same
source energy. And if that's the case, then making judgment,
we already do make judgment about other human beings and
that's you know, close to us, and we still do.
But making that judgment about good and evil, ascribing intention

(01:21:29):
without really knowing for sure what the intention of those
other entities are, whether they'd be cryptids or you know,
humanoid beings or aliens, whatever you want to call them.
We are with that ego judging and you know, setting
up a particular vibration against essentially ourselves, even though they
don't look like us. If you want it, if we're

(01:21:50):
all one, follow it all the way through. We are
definitely one. And that's not to say that we should
put up with abuses. People will follow that all the
way to well. I mean, if we're all one and
I should just go by, I love you know, somebody
who comes to rob me and just taking over my
wile you know, no, I'm not saying that. Just you know,
bear that in mind that you know we're sitting here
making judgments and you know, ascribing good or bad, you know,

(01:22:10):
evil or you know whatever, and intention to things that
we we don't know and we don't understand, but they
are portions of us. So to pull ourselves back and
be a little bit more objective. Are just judgments that
depend on your perspective, right, The shepherd thinks the wolf

(01:22:32):
is evil because the wolf eats the sheep, but the
wolf has the family to feed too, so the wolf
doesn't think he's evil. But the wolf doesn't like the
shepherd because he stands in the way of his food.
Same thing, you know, and applying that to interdimensional beings
or you know, what have you. Somebody's got to eat
and somebody's going to be eaten. You know, that's just
how it goes. But anyway, so to talk about mimics,

(01:22:55):
so me being the easily alarmed person that I am,
apparently when I have interacted with mimics, they have taken
the form of Tilly, and I didn't know that they
were doing this initially. I had two of these experiences.
So the first one, I think was kind of testing
the waters a little bit. And again, I'm in a

(01:23:17):
twilight sleep sort of state, so somewhere between sleep and awake,
and I'm laying in bed and I am noticing Tilly's
next to me, and I go to look over at
her sleepily, and I see that she kind of reaches
over and puts her hand, her whole hand over my face,

(01:23:40):
and she says, go back to sleep. And what I
knew about Tilly to that point is that a she
would never give me an order, because that's something that
as part of her neurodivergen psychology, she will always phrase
things as a request rather than say go get me
such and such thing. We might say that casually as

(01:24:00):
we're in a hurry, but she would always say would
you please go get me, you know, and reframe that
as a polite request. You can agree to it or not. So,
first of all, she would never give me an order
go back to sleep. Second of all, she would never
tell me to go to sleep when she's awake unless

(01:24:20):
she knows that I need it, because she's always up
and bouncing around and she wants me to be up
and bouncing around with her. So for her to tell
me go to sleep both of those counts. I was like, Uh,
something's not right. So I go to lift myself and
I if anybody has ever had the fortune of writing

(01:24:41):
a thrill coaster where you get slammed back in your
seat with enough g force to peel the skin off
your face. That is the way that I felt when
I tried to lift my head. It was like the
gravitational force of Jupiter sitting on my face. And I
was like, I can't, like, oh my god, I can't
get up, and I'm fighting. I'm struggling. I'm you know,

(01:25:05):
I can't get up, can't get up, and I'm no, no, no,
I'm not going to go to sleep like a toddler,
you know, tantrum me try at bedtime, like no, I
won't do it, fighting, fighting, fighting, And then and I'm
able to sit fully up, I'm like, crack, what was that.
I'm looking over at Tilly. She's sound asleep, you know,

(01:25:25):
so I'm pondering, Okay, it's not her. Maybe it was
a dream. That's a little weird, but I you know,
I didn't really think further beyond it. So I wake
up till I tell her. She's like not, I don't
really sense anybody around here, at least nobody that's you know,
meeting any harm. I'm not getting that. Okay, Well, they

(01:25:46):
just tried to put me to sleep, like you know,
pretending to be you. But okay, I trust you. Dear, like, yes,
it's over. Yeah, not weird, not weird at all. So
but by this point, I mean, this has been several
years into the relationship. So some other I'm skipping ahead
for a juicy story for you guys, some other things
had happened. But okay, Tilly, you know, I'll go back

(01:26:09):
to sleep. So some years later, Actually, so this this
other event happened a couple of years ago. It was
my thirty fifth birthday. Actually, so I'm again in bed,
in my twilight stage, and what I think is Tilly
is initiating a little, you know, fun game of wrestle

(01:26:31):
in bed, you know, and it had that sort of
feel to it, I know, you know what I mean,
you know, like, okay, this could be I could have
a morning like this. This could be nice, you know.
So we're wrestling around and you know, she pins me down.
I'm like, okay, ah, this is fun. You know, we
can play this game for a minute. And then I

(01:26:52):
noticed like she's actually she's got me pinned really good.
And normally she's super clumsy, she's very unaware bodily herself,
and to know enough to pin me in a way
that was like professional sort of fighter kind of pin.
I was like, okay, something a little strange here. But
maybe she's been studying. I don't know. I'm still enjoying

(01:27:15):
myself until I go to get up and I can't
get up. I'm pinned on my stomach and she's got me,
and I freeze for a second. I don't Okay, now,
I don't know where this interaction is going, but it's Tilly, right.
And then, ladies and gentlemen, to my sheer humiliation, I

(01:27:38):
will admit that I feel, with the cover of a blanket,
what feels like something rather stiff, like no, no, no, no,
no no no no no no no. That okay, not Tilly.
Also not something we've ever agreed on. I do not
consent to this, you know. And so I now, I

(01:28:02):
know I've got to be dreaming. This is not, you know, Tilly,
And I, you know, close my eyes because that in
my lucid dreaming. When I close my eyes in my dream,
that's what causes me to wake up into this reality.
So I do that, and again Tilly's sound asleep next
to me, all right, so I wake her up. I'm like,

(01:28:23):
n all right, I don't know how to tell this.
I don't know how to admit this to you, but
you I'm going to I mean, you know, weird stuff,
weird butt stuff. Uh, like, what what is this? What's
going on? Clearly I didn't want this, and I also
do not wish for paranormal experiences of that nature. And

(01:28:45):
she's like, huh okay, now I know what's going on.
So the first interaction was just sort of like a test,
like a whoever this entity was that was mimicking her
was more from the type of my vibrational family that
she comes from, and they're all compassionate, you know, loving

(01:29:06):
pipe and so that first one was sort of a
little test, which apparently I woke up in the middle
of wasn't supposed to and they, you know, after I struggled,
they let let up, they let go again. You say no,
they go away. They don't violate that principle. So the
second one being around my thirty fifth birthday, as she said,
she's like, well, all right, so you were due for

(01:29:30):
an exam, you know, you're getting older. And I was like, no, no, no,
not getting older like that, like we go to the
doctor for those sorts of tests like years from now.
She's like, no, no, no, my people do it differently.
They're checking to make sure, because you're with me and
we're doing this thing together, that you're taking care of
yourself as you're supposed to, and you know, that is

(01:29:53):
where they can gather the most information. I said, I mean,
you're right, I guess because I knew from my own
studies that, you know, things like equal transplants are becoming
a thing because you're got my biome, and the absorbability
of certain medications happens because of the vascularity and you

(01:30:15):
know the nature of the tissue in that area. It's
it's quite a space for that sort of thing. But
our egos, our egos are like, no, no, no, that's
an exit only or for the people that like it
for pleasure is a totally different thing, but the rest
of us, it's an exit only thing. And there's a
lot of shame involved in that, right. She's like it

(01:30:35):
just you know, I know that I'm sorry that it
was a violating experience for you, and you know, but
this is what was going on. And I said, Okay,
I guess I can kind of accept that. I still
don't like it, but I can accept it, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
So my.

Speaker 4 (01:30:54):
Mimic and like I said, when I said no, I'm like, nope,
I'm out. I don't want this anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
It stopped.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
It was it was done. So unlike some experiences that
people have said that they've had with grays where there
was very painful probing and you know, against their will
sort of stuff, that's not the case, not the case
for me. So anyway, that those were my mimic stories,
and the mimics can from what I understand, mimics can
take on any form that they wish, and they do

(01:31:19):
so to garner a particular response from the human that
they're interacting with. So if they want a fear response,
they will appear as something that will trigger a fear response.
If they want trust from you. In this case, the
only person that I trust would be Tilly. And so
these entities came to me appearing that way. I could
use to do maybe a little more cognitive work and say, okay,

(01:31:41):
you may appear to me in other ways. You do
not have to appear to be my wife initiating a
you know, a inuendous wrestling interaction, and we can go
different ways with this, but you know I will consent
in other ways, right, So yeah, might have been mimicked.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
My doctor might have mimicked.

Speaker 4 (01:32:05):
You know, I'm gonna say it's suspicious they are.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
I mean I walk in there and he's got fingers
as long as my leg.

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
And a black situation man, WHOA hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
I don't want to do that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
It's no fun, no fun at all.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
But it's embarrassing really. But I mean, this doctor had
the fingers the size of Andre the giant beside of
the microphone. Yeah, says been over and cough.

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
Just pure shame. Yeah, but again that's you know, it's
that's the ego that feels shameful for whatever reason for it.
And the doctor obviously decided consciously that he wanted that job,
so he doesn't have a problem with it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:07):
That's where we kind of have to swallow our own
pride on that one. Excuse me, but anyway, So.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Yes, I believe my doctor was chosen for that job.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
You needed an extra aggressive exams, all right. So yeah,
So that's those are my mimic encounters, and plenty of
other people, UH may have other encounters that that could
be ascribed to mimics. I believe, going back to that
experience of the Native American chieftain when I met Tilly

(01:33:41):
was mimicking that individual and that portrait. I don't believe
it was the spirit of or anybody connected with that
person specifically. I just think that that entity said, oh,
here's something an image that I can use that has
significant sentimental meaning to that to me, and poses that
individual come to Tilly in that form. So I guess

(01:34:05):
that's actually that's another mimic experience at a distance that
I've had. But yeah, so so there's that and then fairies.
So I know you said you want to only had
one experience with fairies, and it was a little Brownie,
as I came to learn. So my policy on the

(01:34:28):
paranormal stuff is that I don't do any research until
after I've had the experience because from my scientific brain,
I don't want to bias the experience by learning about
what other people have said or have experienced. So I
want it to be totally fresh, and when I come
and say here's what I experienced, at least I know
for me. People don't have to believe me, but I

(01:34:50):
know for me in my own head, like if I
can validate it with information after the fact, then you know,
that's how I prove to myself. Basically, that's my scientific
approach to it. So this ferry was so I was
the nature of the work that I do. My day

(01:35:10):
job has me coming into people's homes and spending a
little bit of time there to do my work. And
so I came into this person's home and I'm doing work,
and in front of me is their living room, and
I can see the couch, and there's behind so straight
ahead is the front door. Coming through the front door

(01:35:31):
is some of the light, and then there's the couch,
and then there's me. And so I'm doing the work,
and not from the corner of my eye, but in
quite plain sight, I see, in complete reflection on the
ground from the light coming through the door, a tiny humanoid.
And I can say that it looked female to me.

(01:35:55):
And really, who knows the sex of any of these
entities if it's anything like what we know. But when
I say female, and mean feminine in appearance, so very splendor,
very slight. It had little dragonfly wings and was probably
I don't know, maybe whatever that is ten inches tall

(01:36:17):
or so e ten inches tall, Yeah, and mostly shades
of brown, like I later learned was a brownie and
She was standing right next to the bottom of the couch,
and when I saw her and made direct contact with her,
she kind of did this little startle and then ran

(01:36:38):
underneath the couch, and I, you know, I stopped for
a second. Okay, yep, I saw that. I did see that,
and then you know, leaned down, we see underneath it. Nothing,

(01:37:01):
nothing there at all, not so much as a dog
toy that could have somehow, you know, rolled under blown
under I don't know with that particular shape. You know,
I'm in my mind going any any explanation at all. Nope,
I got nothing. Okay, I saw a very small I
saw a tiny person, sure, and and uh nothing, you know,

(01:37:22):
no other movement was happening, so nothing in the house
that could have explained this particular apparition or shadow or anything.
So the impression that I got was just that this
little fairy was watching what I was doing and with
great curiosity and was obviously a little kind of startled
that I actually saw it, which from what I understand,

(01:37:46):
could be you know, startled because many people that they're
used to creeping on are not able to see the
vibration that they are on the their their particular physical
maybe physical form or any kind of solid form whatsoever
that's visible. And so maybe because this has happened somewhat recently,

(01:38:09):
It's only been within the last I think year and
a half or so, and so I'm thinking that perhaps
I'm on that vibration some of the time that I'm
able to see these interdimensional beings that are popping in
and out of this particular dimension, or maybe i was
seeing another dimension. I'm not really sure, can't be sure.

(01:38:29):
So it was neat to kind of for a minute. Okay,
notice that you know that we're being watched. Okay, probably
being watched all the time. Okay, little creepier, but you know,
if if that is the case, helping you to be
a little more mindful, but also to have an interaction
that's not fear based and you know, not trying to

(01:38:53):
cause some some harm, you know. To me, it was
just just watching, just curious, which I believe a lot
of intertromensional beings are doing.

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
Mm hm.

Speaker 4 (01:39:04):
A chunk of the time is just watching because humans
are interesting creatures. We find ourselves interesting. Florida man, for example,
incredibly interesting to the rest of us. But yeah, it's
they're curious about us. Just as we are of them,
and maybe we can get more interactions if we put

(01:39:24):
ourselves on that inviting vibration, you know, making ourselves more power.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
No, hmm, I think my wife and I had a
encounter with the fairy. Actually two fairies doesn't male and
a female. Uh. I know, some subscribe to the fact
that they can make themselves look like us, you know,
regular regular people. We was a good friend of ours,

(01:39:56):
Matt Seber. He does East Tennessee. Bigfoot was whole at
a local place. You probably saw the commercial Legends and
Lord Pizza Rha. He was actually having his group meeting
and stuff there. Oh, and so we went to listen
in on the group meeting and stuff and and and everything.

(01:40:17):
And it was while you know, it was during business
hours and everything. And so we're sitting at a table
and the place is packed like it is all the
time now, but we're sitting at a pretty good sized table. Well,
this older couple comes in and they you know, were
standing there, and they're like, hey, can we sat with you?
And we're like, oh, yeah, there's plenty of chairs here,
you know. And so we started having conversations with these

(01:40:40):
people because they're interested in the conversations that are going
on about bigfoot and everything. And what's what's crazy about
these people is that they're talking to the wife and
I and they're talking about them that they live out
in the woods and all their furry friends that they
take care of, the deer and all that stuff that

(01:41:00):
they're that they live with and that they take care of.
And You're like, that's not normal, you know. And and
most normal people were like, oh, yeah, you know, my
house is out in the woods and we have a
lot of deer and things like that. But no, our
little friends that we that we helped take care of
the rabbits and the deer and and start naming all
these things. And and so I'm sitting here thinking like, wow,

(01:41:22):
these this is this is strange, you know. And as
our conversations continue all the way up till this ends,
and and so on the way home, the wife and
I are I'm driving and and I'm just sitting there
just replaying this over and over and over. And I
just look over at my wife and I said, I
think that they were fae. And she goes, oh, my god,

(01:41:45):
I'm glad you said it, because I was thinking the
same thing. But I thought I was crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:41:50):
Yeah, did they I have a question for you. Did they?
Did they eat anything while they were there?

Speaker 3 (01:41:56):
They ordered, but I didn't see them really eating. They
were talking talking a lot, I mean, and they were,
like I said, they were interested in us talk bigfoot
talk that was going on, and so we had conversations
about that and and all of that stuff. Yeah, it was.
It was interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
So from what I understand, and there there are books
out there that you can read that talk more about
this sort of thing, the nature of fairies here, what
what some of their common characteristics are, and one of
those is that they don't partake in our food. Who

(01:42:37):
to drink. So it's interesting to me that you say
that they they ordered but didn't eat that you saw
and all of these other characteristics that you're talking about.
I think I would agree with you that that may
may well have been Yeah, may well have been faith
And it kind of reminds me well, talking on that

(01:42:59):
same level, there are fairy lore about how if you're
offered food from fairies. So in Ireland do they talk
about this all the time, that if you're offered something
from them, that that will actually that is a contractual,
binding agreement that will allow them to pull them from
your dimension into their dimension. So you know, it goes

(01:43:22):
both ways. So why they won't eat here and why
taking food from them or drink from them will cause
you to jump dimensions like that, and it reminds me
that you know, them coming around like the pub sort
of scene like Interview with the Vampire. So movies are
in my opinion, lightweight disclosure for the paranormal stuff, and

(01:43:44):
so Interview with the Vampire. Anytime you see the vampires,
they interacting with the human public, they will go and
you know, go to parties, go to you know, the
life of wherever there's human activity, crash parties essentially, and
and people watch and interact with them. They won't partake

(01:44:04):
in anything, but they will absolutely. That makes total sense
to me, and even cooler to me is the little
side note that we have pizza places that are like
you know, the medieval taverns and pubs of you know,
all the centuries that we've had where people would come
and gather and drink beer or drink coffee. Like every

(01:44:26):
every epic, every era has had its own consumption of choice,
you know, whether like I said, coffee shops or pubs
bruis whatever, and now it's pizza where people will come
and gather and talk about these new ideas, which I
think is totally cool. Love pizza. But you know, yeah,
the whole mixing pot right there. That's that is an
excellent example of the interaction between I think one that

(01:44:51):
you can have with non human entities, ferries or faith
and people. Yeah. Cool, totally cool.

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
Yeah. It was something about the conversation and the way
that they spoke and stuff. I was like, they're not human, Yeah,
they're not human.

Speaker 4 (01:45:09):
Yep. I think I think you nailed that for sure.
So yeah, cool. Any other thing anything else that you
can remember about them, like the way that they looked
their eyes or I mean, was it just the way
they spoke and then not really eating anything. I'm just curious.

Speaker 3 (01:45:27):
Well, I mean, you know, uh, it was it was
neat because they they appeared to be older, and I
mean older by they were probably upper fifties maybe lower
sixties is what their age looked like. But when they spoke,
it was when they spoke, it was not it was

(01:45:52):
not like how a human would speak about things. It
was I don't know how to explain it, but they
were they were talking like from a third person perspective
almost on most of the stuff that they were talking about. Yeah,
and and it's weird. It's like, you know, David talking

(01:46:12):
about how David likes to, you know, go and drink
water or something. You know, I mean, it's it's not
natural they you know, we don't talk that way exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:46:24):
So it's so funny that you mentioned that too, because
that that gets into the language usage for non human
entities and the difference between humans and non humans, because
there are several one of which is that you know,
when when we refer to ourselves, I, you know, will

(01:46:44):
say I this I that you know that is it's
a self referential high ego marker. So when you do that,
you're very much you know, within your own ego, your
own story. But when you start referring to yourself as
it may be that other people perceive you, so that

(01:47:05):
it's considerate of their perspective. So saying David this or
David that, Scott this, Jason this, you know, even with
you're referring to yourself, that is giving proper consideration for
anybody within that conversation so that they know exactly who
they're referring to. You say I, and nobody sees you

(01:47:27):
and you're just listening. Unless you learn that person's voice,
you don't necessarily know who is talking. So we just
do a lot of assumption when we speak and we
say I, because we're just thinking about it from our perspective.
If this makes anything, so things like that will will
be the difference between one of the differences between a

(01:47:49):
non human entity speaking not familiar with the normal human
vernacular or the way that we structure our thoughts and
our words, but then also the way that we speak
many times as humans when I say we humans is
more in like cultural slang or turns of phrase that

(01:48:16):
people around us might know, like killing two birds with
one stone. You know, if you were to say that
to somebody who was unfamiliar with the phrase, they would go,
we were just talking about you running errands. Why are
you now talking about killing two birds with one stone.
I don't understand where this came from, but it's a
figure of speech that we as humans who are familiar

(01:48:37):
with that will understand, and it's a shorthand for a
type of communication. But non human entities and also people
on the neurot divergent spectrum don't use figures of speech.
They don't really understand them. It's not literal language, which
is more common for non human entities and also neurodivergent people,

(01:49:01):
which is part of that language barrier for communicating. We
will say, will make hyperboles like oh my god, I
sweated a river last night, you know, saying something like that.
You know, we as a human will go, oh, yeah, man,
you sweat a lot, like that's a lot, you know,
But for a non human entity or even a neurodivergent person,
they would be like, again, why are we talking about

(01:49:24):
rivers and sweat? Like I don't understand what you mean
by that. You know, did you sweat fast or was
it slow? Or did it go over a waterfall? Why
are we talking about that when it's sweat like, you know,
that sort of stuff. You know, they're thinking about all that,
But we as humans are like, no, man, it's not
like it's just a lot of sweat. I don't understand
why you don't get that, you know, So again, you know,

(01:49:44):
we have ways of speaking with one another that even
if you go to another country that doesn't translate, you know,
translating languages, even even amongst humans, that can be problematic,
and then you start to realize why that self centered,
egotistical way of communicating is less inviting to anybody else
other than the person inside your head sometimes, you know. So, yeah,

(01:50:06):
that makes sense to me why it's hard for us
to pinpoint what's weird about, you know, mimics or fae
that are communicating. But it's, as I have discovered it
through my interactions with Tilly and the non human entities,
that it's those specific characteristics that make the difference between
and those two types of communicating. And why when you

(01:50:30):
communicate with a fairy or mimic non human entity, you
can sense that something is different, but you don't know exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:50:38):
What it is.

Speaker 3 (01:50:39):
So yeah, and she wrote on there, Jason, we go
back to that real quick, because she wrote this next
one up to I think so the wife wrote on
there she was like, so they were dressed in earth
colored clothes, brown and green cotton clothes. Oh yeah, then

(01:51:01):
she says, not like hippies or anything, but they definitely
talked third person, and like they never talked about home
that they lived in, but they that they loved and
took care of all the creatures in the woods. So yes,
it's it was. I was like, it took me to

(01:51:25):
the drive home before I finally looked at my wife
and was like, I think they were fae.

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
Yeah, yeah, and that's cool too that they It makes
sense to me why they wouldn't reference home like we would,
because that's important to the average human. It's part of
the you know, so many basic needs that we have, food, water, shelter,
you know that sort of thing. But for fae, they,
I mean, home is everywhere. It's wherever they want to be,
and they don't have needs, you know, survival needs like

(01:51:55):
the food that we have where we actually it's a
dense reality here that we have to physically gather things
and if we don't have enough energy to do that,
that means we perish in other dimensions, the higher dimensions
they have ether where I mean, it's they could it's
just okay, I want this and I will have this,

(01:52:17):
and it's there. There is no struggle. Which also then imagine,
you know, imagine a world here where nobody had to
worry about being hungry. How that would change the dynamic
and the interaction between people in situations where they have
to worry about that. Fortunately, for most of us here
in this country anyway, A lot of us, they should say,
don't have to worry about that, and even those of

(01:52:40):
us that are less advantage. There's food pantries you know,
that you could go to. But even if you know,
we didn't have to worry about that at all. You know,
the faith don't have to worry about it because they
can have it on demand. So how different things would
be they don't. They don't have to reference those resources
like it's mine, you know, because that's important for the
human ego to reference it as mine, because that means

(01:53:03):
I have it. That means I'm going to be okay.
That's important, you know, but not for the faith.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
So I will continue right right, Yeah, well, Artemass, we're
about at the end of the show. If you want
to give everybody your all your information and where they could,
you know, listen to some more of your things and
we would love to have you back on.

Speaker 3 (01:53:30):
Yes for this conversation was not long enough.

Speaker 4 (01:53:33):
No, Well, I've been enjoying myself tremendously too, so I
appreciate being here. I wanted to say as a quick note,
something that's kind of coming to mind is that you
having that interaction with the faith These are purposeful interactions.
They choose consciously who they want to interact with because

(01:53:54):
they can. They're on that level of awareness. So I'm
certain that they chose to interact with you as an
opportunity for growth. Whatever you want to make of that,
whatever you take from that, even just having the awareness
of I don't think those were human sometimes just enough
to like crack you open a little bit and you know,

(01:54:14):
send you further on this journey. Much like me meeting Tilly,
it always starts with just a little wedge, a little
crack from there, and what you do with it is, yes,
your journey. But anyway, speaking of which Tilly and I
mostly me at this point, can be found narrating videos
on the channel that she created on YouTube, which is

(01:54:35):
called The Weird Walk Home, and then her and I
both you know, communicate on her Facebook page which is
Tilly Treadwell. And for anybody that is in the central
Florida area and or traveling to for the Full Disclosure
Now conference which is going to be happening next week,

(01:54:56):
starting next Tuesday. It goes Tuesday through day I think
Tuesday through Thursday something like that. Anyway, we're going to
be there we're not speaking this year. We're just going
to essentially be hanging on the coattails of the guy
who organized it as honored guests, as we've been labeled,
just there meeting and greeting people, networking the sort of thing,

(01:55:19):
talking about the paranormal. Maybe next year we'll be have
a speaking parts, but for now, yeah, anybody that's there,
Chillie and I will both be there, and we'd love
to connect with anybody and share stories and insights and
continue on that weird walk home and personal growth.

Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
So awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
Yeah, we really want to thank you for coming on
and stay on the line here until we close out
with I'd like to, you know, talk to you a
little bit more, right, So we're going to close her
out and thank you again for coming on.

Speaker 4 (01:55:56):
It was a pleasure. I loved it.

Speaker 5 (01:55:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:56:02):
All right. That was ourda mass treadwell.

Speaker 4 (01:56:04):
That was.

Speaker 3 (01:56:06):
An awesome show.

Speaker 2 (01:56:07):
Yeah, enlightening for me. Yeah. I could have done another
two hours, Yeah, I could have easily. So this this
next week we have Greg Ogles coming on right before
the Bigfoot conference. And Greg Ogles is from Relic Films

(01:56:27):
and he's done a couple of documentaries on Bigfoot in
the paranormal. So we're going to have him this next Saturday. Thursday,
we're going to have Vic. No, that's the next Thursday,
Next Thursday. Yeah, this Thursday will be just me and David.

Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
Coming up with a good show. Look, yeah, Greg Ogles,
if you don't know who he is, when we were
at the Bigfoot Festival in Townsend, he was a person
that we interviewed for what about forty five minutes we
were there, So you could always go back and look
at that and listen to him. He has some DVDs out,

(01:57:09):
and I will tell you that last one he put
out was amazing, amazing relicfilms dot com and you could
order a DVD and Jason said that you might be
able to even download it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:22):
Yeah, so either way.

Speaker 3 (01:57:25):
It was amazing documentary and some of the stuff that
they find on there the stuff that I've not heard
or seen anywhere else. So that's that's what I got
to say. It was really amazing. So I wanna, I
wanna appreciate everybody for coming out tonight and listening and
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