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August 21, 2025 • 47 mins
Join us as we talk about three haunted locations in Knoxville, Tennessee. The Baker Peters House The Bijou Theater Lakeshore Mental Health Institute
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:33):
The Hollis ply Day All right, oh right, hello everybody,
how are you doing tonight?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Hello? All you people up there watching us live.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, we enjoy every one of you and thank you
for tuning in. So we got a good show tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Oh yeah, yeah, Haunted, I look at her. I muna
spell that, oh man, Haunted. Cannoxville, Cannoxville, Knoxville, huh oh
will I'll fix it later. Yeah, Cannoxville.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Hey, mister Kennoxville. We're in Knnoxville, Tennessee.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Hey, we got two people in there. All right, come on, yeah,
Michel says, Oh, guys, Cannoxville, We're in Cannocksville, Knxville, Kinksville.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
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Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, so if you haven't heard of Cannoxville, Tennessee. We're
about thirty miles south south, directly south of Knoxville, Tennessee.
We got a few stories here, we got three different stories.
We're gonna be talking about the Baker's Peter House. We're

(03:06):
gonna be talking about the bees Youth Theater. Hey, Charles,
how you doing? Thank you well for your first time.
I misspelled the title. It's supposed to be Knoxville, not
not Nextville, Cannoxville, Cannocksville. We're gonna be talking about the

(03:27):
Baker Peter's House, the bees Youth Theater, and Lake Shore Asylum.
Oh yeah, yeah. Lake Shore was one of my scary
moments in life.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Did you go visit?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
No, my mom will say, I don't taking you to
Lake Shore.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Oh that's hilarious. I ain't gonna I ain't gonna take
you and have the cops called on you and that
I take you the Lake Shore, right man, Jason?

Speaker 3 (03:58):
You know what, I forgot my hat too, so I'm
I'm not trying to blind anybody, but.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Kind of well, you know, it's on the screen, it
doesn't look like it's you know, got a lot of
light going off of it. So you did Buffett, did you?

Speaker 3 (04:10):
I did not.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Hein't. No creepy grannies, right, no creepy grannies.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
So we're going to do the Baker's Peter House first, David, awesome,
lighter up.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
All right, Jason will show you a picture of the place.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Too, I will Baker Peter House.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Hey, how you doing, Zombie, Thanks for coming in.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Jason feels naked, that's a fact. That's all right. I
have enough hair, I can you know? You go, Jason.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
I haven't been wearing my hat for the last couple
of days because I just think, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Get to get sun on the head everything.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, I need some vitamin D.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
So well, let me talk about this place right here.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yes, drive by that place a lot.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
I went and ate dinner there on my prom night
back in nineteen eighty something.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
How's a long time ago?

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Oh yeah it was.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
So.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
The Baker's Peter's House is in Knoxville, and Knoxville is
a city that has a very rich history. Now, some
of the local history. There are tales of supernatural, which
happens in a lot of big cities, but Knoxall's a
pretty old city. So now, a lot of locals might

(05:45):
tell you about the ghostly occupants of the Biju Theater
or the lingering spirits at Hall's High School. There is
one name that does rise above the rest, and that
is the Baker's Peters Jazz Club. Now, this elegant venue,
it's not a jazz.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Club anymore, is it. Yeah, it's still as club.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, Okay, This elegant venue is widely considered one of
the most haunted spots in the entire region. Now it
has a chilling legend that captivates people when they hear
about the story. So the story of the Baker family
is a one of haunting, a tale of tragedy and vengeance,

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a spirit that refuses to rest. Now, the story begins
in eighteen forty when doctor James Harvey Baker, which is
a well known and respected physician, built a stately Greek
Revival style home on a sprawling farm in West Knox County. Now,
as a distinguished figure in the community, he helped found

(06:59):
the Knox County Board of Health and the East Tennessee
Medical Society. Now, accounts from the time describe him as
a dignified, cultured gentleman. So when the Civil War broke out,
doctor Baker's loyalties were tested. While his son, Abner, was

(07:20):
a staunch Confederate soldier. The doctor's own allegiance has been
subject to debate among historians. Regardless of this, his home
became a refuge for wounded Confederate troops. Now, this act
of compassion, however, would ultimately lead to tragedy. So the

(07:45):
Dark House's history began in eighteen sixty four when Union soldiers,
having caught wind of doctor Baker's actions, raided the property. Now,
they demanded the surrender of the Confederate soldiers he was hiding.
Doctor Baker refused, so, in a desperate attempt to escape,

(08:05):
he bolted upstairs and barricaded himself into his bedroom. Now,
despite his efforts, the Union soldiers shot through the door,
killing him instantly. Could you imagine that being shot? Yeah,
with those muskets and stuff, that wouldn't be good. Most
of them are like fifty caliber. When Abner returned home

(08:26):
from the war to find his father dead and his
family shattered, his grief transformed into a burning need for vengeance.
So he hunted down William Hall, the Knoxville postmaster. He believed,
having informed on his father and shot him dead. Now
this act of retribution, however, sealed Abner's own fate. Hall's

(08:49):
accomplices seeking revenge and bushed and killed Abner in retaliation. Now,
the legend states that the Abner's spirit refuses to abandon
the house and his family fought for, so it still
resides within the walls of the jazz club. His restless

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presence is a common topic of conversation among employees and
patrons alike. Many believe his ghost acts as a protective force,
eternally watching over his family home. Now, there has been
countless reports of paranormal activity over the years. Employees have
grown accustomed to glasswear falling from shelves with no explanations.

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They have lights that flicker off and on on their own.
The manager and Bowen recounted those frequents occurrences, although she
has never personally seen the ghost herself. However, a grainy,
haunting photograph said to be of Abner's specter looming in
a window hangs near the host stand, serving as a

(09:58):
constant reminder of its past. I'm gonna have to go
there sometimes it's pretty. I've been beery, I've been by it.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
One hundred times, like it used to be Hawkeye or
was it Hawkeyes? Yeah, it was Hawkeyes Restaurant and I
ate there on my prom night back in I don't know,
I was nineteen eighty something because I went to a
few different proms.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Like eighty eight, probably five years older than me, so
I know.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
But I went to like, oh.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
He's one of those guys that went to like prom
and more proms and four years so yeah, okay, got you.
So it was one of those times I didn't go
to one of my problems.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Why not, it's the time of your life. I had
other things to do. I remember driving my big old
pipe holes Lincoln Continental. Things sharp.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
It's uptown high society. That's funny. Now, visitors and staff
often speak of an unsettling chill that descends upon them.
It's a feeling of being watched or an overwhelming sense
that they have intruded upon someone's private space. Now, some

(11:23):
of the more dramatic accounts from the past include a
hanging candelabra with twisted candleholders and disembodied whispers echoing through
the halls. Now, this legend is further cemented by the
physical evidence that remains the original door from doctor Baker's bedroom,

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still riddled with bullet holes that took his life, as
a tangible link to the past, and it does serve
as a visceral reminder of the tragedy that befell the
Baker family and a powerful testament to the relentless spirit
that to this day is set tod In't have it.
The Baker's Peters Club. You know, I think this is

(12:07):
like the second time we've talked about the Baker's Peters Club.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, I think it's actually in our book. Yeah right, yeah,
it is.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I think that they used to let people go in
and investigate, because I've seen some investigations people have done there.
Really Yeah, now they're on YouTube. Maybe we need to
go do an investigation and see if we can do
a live investigation.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Live. Who would be up.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
For watching a live investigations from the Baker's Peter's House.
I would.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
So next on our list. Now, I know you've heard
of this. It's the bees You Theater. B'SU the bees
You Theater.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
The Bju is old, old and very very haunted. There's
been multiple people that's gone in there and done investigations.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
So of course it's in Knoxville. It stands not only
as a landmark, but also was one of the city's
most renowned haunted locations. So it's got a long layered
history which dates back to nearly to the early nineteenth century.

(13:37):
It provides a fertile ground for the ghostly tales that
have become part of its lower Now the building itself
was completed in eighteen seventeen. It's a long time ago, yes,
and it originally opened its doors as the Lamar House Hotel. Now,

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this establishment was a hub of activity in early Knoxville.
It welcomed notable figures of the time, including the legendary
frontiersman and politician mister David Crockett, King of the Wildfront.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Tier av Crockett.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
So the Lamar House was known for its grand accommodations,
but its role in history took a more somber turn
during the Civil War. Colonel William H. Snead, a Confederate. Sneid,
a Confederate officer who had purchased the hotel, converted a

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portion of it into a hospital. So it was during
this period that one of the theater's most famous spectral
residents is said to have come into being. Now, in
eighteen sixty three, amid the tumultuous siege of Knoxville, Union
General William P. Sanders was severely wounded. He was brought

(15:13):
to the Lamar House and he was attended to in
the bridal suite, but unfortunately his injuries did prove fatal
and he died there on November nineteenth, eighteen sixty three.
That's interesting, Yeah, and a lot of people believe his
spirit never left, and some people see his ghost. It's

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often cited as the most prominent of the theater's ghostly figures.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
It's interesting because I've seen some of the investigations that's
been done there. Yeah, and it's really made me want
to go and investigate that place.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Now. In the early twenties six entry the building it
had significant. It had a significant transformation. In nineteen oh
nine it was converted into a theater, ushering in a
new era of entertainment. So, after decades of serving as
a vibrant artistic hub, the theater fell into disrepair, only

(16:23):
to be resurrected by a magnificent renovation completed in two
thousand and five. So this restoration brought the theater back
to its former glory, allowing it to once again host
a wide variety of performances. Now its storied passed as

(16:45):
a hotel, a civil war hospital, and a vibrant artistic hub.
It you know, it has led to a wealth of
paranormal accounts. Visitors and staff have reported a wide raine
of paranormal occurrences, from their ghostly sightings in the audience

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and on the stage, to strange noises from backstage and
in dressing rooms. Now, a spectral woman in a long dress,
I bet it's a white dress. Every time, it's a
white dress, she said, to be seen sitting in the seats,

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while the disembodied sound of a crying baby is heard
from the upstairs balcony.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yep, I mean they said that a lot of the
parts of the upstairs balcony because you know, back then
it was segregated and the colored people had to come
in from outside and go upstairs and they got to
sit up there. And there's a lot of stuff that's

(17:59):
usually as far as ghosts, sightings and stuff, you see
a lot quite quite a bit up there. Yeah, and
supposed supposedly, and I think it's that woman is seen
down on the bottom part like four rows up or
something like that. They see they see her. M. Yeah.

(18:20):
Also that's something that you could go online and watch people. Yeah,
their investigations places. You know this, This place has attracted
a lot of tension from professional investigators, including Tennessee raith chasers.
H Uh, they've have They've explored the theaters many dark corners,

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and the theater itself hosted popular ghost tours, allowing the
public a chance to hear these tales firsthand and perhaps
experience something for themselves. But while a full schedule of
performing just now makes these tours difficult, uh, the building's
reputation for being a stage from both the living and

(19:07):
the departed remains. Every curtain call feels a little more
dramatic with the knowledge that some of the theater's unseen
guests from another time maybe watching in the shadows got

(19:32):
happy with that button. But you know what it is.
It is funny to know that you know the bees
you is, Oh, you didn't even change the the bees
you theater. Let me show you the pictures the b Theater,
the Tennessee Theater too. In Knoxville to be haunted, very

(19:56):
supposed to be very haunted.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
There's a a lot a lot of places in Knoxville
that's said to be haunted, and these are just some
of them.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
You gotta think, you know, hey, Jason, how you doing.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Amen? I glad you got on here.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
You know. That's the one thing about it is that
a lot of people Hey Jason, Hey doing buddy? Mm hmmm.
I think we need to make him a moderator. Yeah,
what do you think Jason liked to be a moderator?

(20:35):
You know what, there's places in Knoxville that that are
so old before Tennessee even become yeah, you know, part
of the Union, it wasn't even a state at the time,

(20:57):
where when Knoxville and stuff, you know, was still doing
what it was doing, and it was kind of the
wild West. You know, this is as far west as
it come at one point to be in civilized country.
And so Knoxville had all kinds of crazy stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, it did.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
That's that's almost a job by itself, Jason taking having
to take dogs outside and some used bathroom and stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Oh yeah, it is. So this next one is a place,
dear to me.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Have you visited it often?

Speaker 3 (21:39):
I have been there, have you really? And yeah, one
of my former wives, oh mother was stationed there.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Stationed Yeah, permanent station a little while. Was it was
itself or was she actually committed?

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Probably committed for a minute or two. But you know,
that place is really wild and it's spooky.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's closed down now though right it's closed down.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
They've tore some of the buildings down, but it's right now.
It's just like a community place. But really, the old
main part of the building is still there. I wonder
if the picture you see, I mean, let me pull
it up. It's still there. Do they allow people to

(22:43):
go they may? I don't know. Oh man, this is
uh East Hospital, East Tennessee Hospital for the Insane, Take
her Away David.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Eighteen eighty six to nineteen seventy. So it closed in
seventy six.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
No, that was its name, Oh seventy.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Six, gotcha? What was it changed to? Do you know?

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Lake Shore?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Lake Shore? So that's what I remember it as lake
Shore because everybody always talked about all the crazies in
Lake Shore.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, that's where I was going to be sent by mama.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Mama says, I'm going to thank you to Lake Shore. Uh,
that's funny. So the history of this site began in
the mid nineteenth century when the Williams family donated three
hundred acres of land to the state of Tennessee for
the purpose of building a mental health hospital. Now, the
East Tennessee Hospital for the Insane officially opened its doors

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in eighteen eighty six. Now, the first patients nearly one
hundred of them, and they were waiting, weren't they all?
We got one hundred already for you. We're transferred by
train from over crowd to asylum in Nashville. Now, in
its early days, the institution was designed with a more

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progressive self sufficient model in mind. Patients were put to
work in the hospital's dairy farm and cultivated produce, which
helped to provide food in a sense of purpose. Now,
this was a common approach at the time, and it
was believed that physical labor and a rural environment were

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very therapeutic. The hospital became its own small community, with
its own power plant, laundry facilities, and other infrastructures. Now,
despite these intentions, the hospital's capacity was quickly exceeded. The
initial design was for two hundred and fifty patients, but

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overcrowding became a persistent problem. A lack of state funding
meant that the hospital was often understaffed and undersupplied, so
as a result, the institution struggled to provide adequate care
and the conditions for patients often deteriorated. So there was

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an investigation by The Sentinel in nineteen sixty five and
it highlighted these issues, detailing the dire conditions and the
use of restraints and drugs to control a growing number
of patients. Isn't that what we see though, Like in
movies and all that stuff. They're drugged out people just

(25:35):
can yeah sell somewhere or roomed out.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
In a padded room. Yeah, with you know, just zombified.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, sitting here talking to themselves.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Oh, I could tell I can tell you from experience
that the medicine that people with mental problems take. I mean,
I've not had any issue us, but I've seen it
in the family that it just takes all their emotion,

(26:09):
all their character, everything is just blank. It's just zombie.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
So they become an MPC. Yeah, a non playable character, yes,
video game, I mean the straight jacket. No.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
And now, now, if you're on the medicine that they give,
like I don't know what the medicine's name is, but
you walk around zombiefide and you're just useless, and it's
terrible to see somebody like that, right, But they think

(26:47):
it's better for them, you know, instead of seeing ghosts
and and maybe stuff that they think they're crazy. It's
better for them to not think of nothing. Yeah, that's stupid,
Yeah it is. Now.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
There's a significant detail of the hospital's history reflecting the
racial segregation of the era. Now, there was a construction
of a separate building for black patients in eighteen ninety six.
This facility, known as the Underhill Building, remained the sole
building for black people until the hospital was integrated in

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the nineteen sixties. So from nineteen seventy six to nineteen
or twenty twelve, the name of the institution was officially
changed to the Lake Shore Mental Health Institute Institute institution.
That doesn't even sound nice, though, where are you at?

(27:48):
I'm at an institution. This change is part of a
broader national trend to destigmatize mental health care and move
away from the term asylum. Now, the hospital also began
to shift its focus from long term institutionalization to a
more modern approach, which included community based care. Yeah, you

(28:12):
take care of your own people. Throughout the nineteen eighties
and nineties, the hospital saw a decline in its patient
population as more effective psychiatric drugs became available and mental
health services were decentralized. Now the state began to lease
portions of the campus to the city of Knoxville, and

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in ninety five the first walking trials or trails that
would become Lake Shore Park were open to the public. Now,
throughout its long history, it was a place of care,
but also immense suffering, with numerous reports of abuse, overcrowding,
and neglect. Now this history has fuelled many of the

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ghost stories and paranormal claims that persist to this day.
Even after much of the property was demolished and repurposed
into Lake Shore Park, there are reported apparitions and figures now.
One of these is a woman in white. Go figure right,

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There's always a woman in white somewhere. Many visitors, particularly
those who have explored the few remaining or formerly standing buildings,
have reted seeing a woman in a white gown or
a nurse's uniform on the upper floors. Now she is
seen often staring out of windows and is said to

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be the spirit of a nurse who committed suicide on
the property.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
People also have reported seeing fleeting shadow figures lurking in
the hallways. There has been investigations there and people who
have also shared photos videos showing unexplained orbs light anomalies
which they believe are evidence of spirits. Now one specific

(30:07):
named ghost is said to haunt the premises, Samuel Lee
and his young son Thomas So Their ghost is said
to wonder the halls, and Thomas's is described as a
playful child who enjoys playing pranks on visitors. We need

(30:27):
to go sensory and auditory phenomena now. Most frequent reports
from the Lake Shore is of auditory phenomena. Visitors have
heard disembodied screams, cries, moans, and echoing from empty buildings
and long demolished wings. Now this is often attributed to

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the spirits of former patients who suffered during their stay.
They also have ghost stories that often include accounts of
door slamming or shutting on their own footsteps and empty
rooms and mysterious banging noises from within the old buildings.

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People exploring the grounds have reported sudden and intense cold spots,
even on warm days. Some have also claimed to feel
a hand on their cheek, a push on their shoulder
or a tug on their clothes, as if an unseen
presence is trying to get their attention. Now. Like many

(31:32):
old asylums, the Lake Shore Mental Health Institute had a
network of underground tunnels connecting its buildings. These tunnels are
a popular focus for urban explorers and ghost hunters, who
report hearing voices and feeling strange presences while inside. Now
this demolished building of Lonus Hall was notorious location for

(31:57):
a paranormal activity. It is where many of the most
severe patients were housed, and its dark history is said
to have left a spiritual imprint. The hospital also has
an on site cemetery. While it's not part of Lake
Shore Park, it is a separate and deeply sad location

(32:18):
where there are no widespread ghost stories about the cemetery itself.
It is and its present adds to the somber history
of the area, and it does fuel some of the
beliefs that the spirits of the deceased still linger.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
I head the button. If they are uncontrollable, violent psycho
type thing, it might be understandable. Yes, it might be.
I mean, if they've committed a murder, a crime, or
a violent crime. Yeah, they should be institutionalized. If they're

(32:58):
wacko is that a bad word? Sorry, if they're insane, insane, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Not of their own mind. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
I think sorry for San Mico.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Insane, Well that's just a term. Yeah, But I mean
the way I look at it is is that any
of these places, like a lot of that stuff that's
described about it, most of it sounds like it is residual. Yeah,

(33:36):
you know, there's not these things sitting there just all
night long. And because they're actually it's just something that's
just imprinted because of like you said, Jason, the drugs
that were given to these people and the mindlessness that
these you know, I'm sure that left an imprint on
the place, on the property itself. So like I said,

(33:59):
even then, buildings that no longer exist, things are still
heard in s Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
And some of the the the treatments for for these people.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Were electroshock therapies outrageous, the bottomies, they were dangerous, they
were yeah, demonic to me, right, the bottomy. That's that's
a weird thing, man.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah. Sorry, electroshock therapy and and and taking part of
your brain out and stuff like that is is truly brime.
In itself, it's barbaric. It's violent crime in itself.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
It's barbaric. I mean the mental institution that's in in Kentucky,
the really famous one. I forgot the name of it. No,
someone's gonna have to help me with this. Yeah, I
can't rememberause I know it because I really want to
go there. But what's crazy about him? Something trans Alleghany.

(35:03):
I don't think. I don't think so. No, I had
to look it at look it up. It feels like
one step away from what the Egyptians. Well, anyway, this
place in Kentucky, and it'll come to me here in
the second that someone don't come up with it. But anyway,

(35:23):
doing studies for it, that's where this doctor came up
with the ice pick lobotomy. That's it. Waverley Hills Sanatorium.
The ice pick lobotomy was was created there, and they
said that he the man was at home, got an
ice picking was was breaking up ice and he thought, hey,

(35:45):
I could shove this through the side of someone's eyeball
and scramble their brains. And he went to work and
started doing it at Waverley Hills.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Yeah that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, So I mean just to just to think about
the crazy stuff that did happen at these places. I mean,
look at the BSU Theater with it being a civil
war hospital for a while, the imprint that was left there.

(36:21):
People were hurt, scared, dying, you know, getting limbs hacked
off with that literally with hacksaws, and they just gave
them a piece of leather or something because they had
no no way of knocking you out to do it.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, you know, I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
When you really stop and you think about the energy
that we put out every day, right, and we know
that we can affect everything around us by just interacting
with our environment mentally, just by by looking at it. Right,

(36:59):
The double slidics.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Experience says, hacksaws, what did I just come into, Hacksaw?
We're talking about civil war? Uh? Amputations, Yes, you know.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Uh. The double slit experiment shows that we can you know,
by looking at it it's it's in one state, but
not looking at it it's in another. M We also
can can do experiments with with things by speaking good
things to stuff and freezing it and seeing these perfect

(37:38):
things or speaking bad things and seeing these grotesque, nasty
things that when they freeze them, right, and you could
do it with rice. And now there's other ways of
doing it, for sure, but we could tell that just
what we do.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Is it's just a flesh wound, he says, reminds me
of that money python. Oh, it's just to be a
flesh wounding his legs cut off.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Reminds me of that one movie that Arnold was in.
That was a movie, but then he came into the
real life and then he got the flesh woman. But
he went back into the movie and it was just
a flesh wine. Who's going to die? That was an
old movie.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
I remember that movie and it was a good movie.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, it was a good movie. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
I can't remember the name of it, though, I.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Was hoping you got it. But I mean, since we
can do that, just think about the fact that when
someone is in a state of distress, terror and all
these other things, what we're putting out in that environment,
and as people who investigate that kind of stuff, you know,

(38:59):
that's what we look for when we're going to these places.
Is this something that's just an imprint or is this
something that's intelligent and it's talking back to me?

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Right, you know?

Speaker 2 (39:12):
And I think that a lot of what we talked
about tonight is just it's an imprint. I know it's not.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
There's some controversy too for me about it being an
imprint or being a time slip.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Well, and that's possible too.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
I mean, you know, I'm just saying it could be
energy that's that's left behind, but it also could be
a time shift. You could be seeing what was really
happening there at that time.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
That's that's I mean, definitely not out of the realm
of impossibility for sure. Yeah, yep. I mean there's a
lot of people who've had time slips mm hmm. Literally
they drove into a place and ate at a restaurant,
then on their way back they went to eat at
the same restaurant and found out that it didn't it

(40:08):
hadn't even been there for decades. There's tons of stories
like that, yeah, time slip stories. So I mean, I
think that it is possible and that it does happen
for sure. I hope everybody enjoyed the three stories that
we had tonight about Haunted Knoxville actually.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Haunted Knoxville connect Kunksville. Yeah, I misspelled it. I'm gonna
have to change that when we put it up.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Forgot the o.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
There's an O between the N and.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
The X should be, but not the way Jason spells it.
That's right, Knicksville. What's funny is that the show started
and then we saw it. Thank you, baby girl, Casper.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
So Stephen knows a guy up in the mountains that
went turkey hunting and had lost time and ended up
somewhere different. Oh yeah, it's a possibility.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
You know. That sounds like a guy that told us
a story at Legends and Lore one time. You like
my I like it. You look like Jordie LaForge. Yeah,
Star Trek the next Generation. Yeah, we'll probably go down

(41:33):
there and just see what it's about. I mean, we
ain't set up, yeah, but we'll we'll definitely visit. Yeah,
we're going to be down there, Laser Beam. What was
he talking about?

Speaker 3 (41:49):
I have no idea talking about town hall and that's
the last thing I remember.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
I don't remember that I was saying something, But thank
you Stephen for reminding us. Hey, everybody, next Saturday in Louden.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
It's at the where is it the VFW.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, the VFW, So it's right off seventy two, going
to or eleven, I'm sorry, going towards Sweetwater yeah, lost
time slips, Thank you, Stephen, that's what it was.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Maybe we just lost the time we got.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
I just time slipped. I did.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
It's called old age.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
But we won't say nothing I time slipped.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
But yeah, well we'll be down there roaming around probably
for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yep, my dogs.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Yes, then we got a show. We're going to be
doing a show at eight pm Saturday.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yes, who's our guest the Saturday.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Fisher of men men spam? Fisher of men? Why do
I want to say men?

Speaker 2 (42:58):
I don't know, but it's fisher of spam.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
What his favorite was the night Watch? Yeah, I'll tell
you exactly. His name, James Powell, mister James Power from
uh fisher of a k A. Fisher of spams. Uh.
He's got a channel on YouTube called night Watch.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, pretty good channel.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I like to watch this stuff, Fisher of Men and
smoking some chicken, WSEs, Tennessee balls, football games. Yes, Fisher
of Men was hayesus.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
So he's going to be uh spoking some wings. Time
will be over.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah, let us know, Steve and shoot us and you know,
and our email your address and we'll be there. Jason
and I love wings.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
All right, We appreciate everybody for listening.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yes, like I said, we got a great show coming
up Saturday, so definitely tune in. It's eight pm Eastern
Standard time, so let us know, Jason, do you have
anything Do we have anything else coming up? Hey, we've
got two books that are about to come out.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah, we got a book in a journal fixing to
be released. Ye. We're waiting on the proofs right now
to go over them, but it's going to be good.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yep. So the book is a paranormal investigation book, kind
of walks you through all the different stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yeah. The title is a comprehensive guide to paranormal investigations.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yes, and it's going to have a companion book, which
is a journal. We say, one of the best things
you can do is journal while you're doing an investigation.
So he says, we have to be while.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Will be That's fine Saturday.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Every girl says Saturday of popcorn in hand. Yes, it's
gonna be fun. It's gonna be a fun show, said
eight pm, eight to ten this Saturday.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Ye, so join us.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
We look forward to seeing everybody there. Remember you can
find us at paranormafore one one dot org. Parent ONLA
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live every Thursday from seven to eight Saturdays from eight
to ten Eastern Standard time. Remember Saturdays at eleven. The

(45:42):
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listeners outside of Atlanta you can still watch listen to us,
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Speaker 5 (45:54):
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We're also on SEP, Space Radio and all major podcast platforms.
Remember we do have a book that right now east
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(46:16):
one dot org.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Join us, join.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
Us, thank you everybody. Hope to see everybody on Saturday.
And if you can, hey have your.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Says walking around over and loudon at the Bigfoot? What
is it anyway? It's a big Foot play town hall. Yes,
thank you, baby girl, Casper.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Please on YouTube. We're going to be doing a lot
more YouTube, so yes, YouTube is the place. Thank you
and good night, good night.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
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