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June 14, 2025 • 94 mins
Elena is a quantum healer and life guide dedicated to helping individuals heal and navigate their current life paths and other timelines. Drawing on a wealth of diverse experiences, including angelic encounters, cryptid and supernatural phenomena, near-death experiences, and personal miracles, Elena offers unique insights and guidance. Her various "clairs" are active, enabling her at times to channel concepts and answers. Currently, her focus is on assisting people in navigating intense energies during this period of "awakening," facilitating the healing of old paradigms, false belief systems, and energy blocks that hinder soul growth on a quantum level. You Can contact Elana Via Email or Text elenasjourney444@gmail.com (208)777-5339
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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darky Maze, fort Step Second in the Empty Hall, Mysteries,
Waiting No knockol Seen footstepping through the Past, Alien, Send

(00:36):
the Secrets, Sience e. VP's in the dead of night.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Ghost is in in the pill light.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Don't know before them what.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
We bring it to?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Your truth behind the fail?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Got up with talking about it?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Ride, right, it's Saturday.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
It's Saturday.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yes, I've been working hard all day today. We just
sold twenty something chickens and and so we had to
break down their coop and their run and everything, send

(01:16):
them on their way.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yep. Yeah, that's terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, it's it's a new chapter because we're selling. We're
selling the homestead and yeah, trying to buy another one.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Hey, we got a great show tonight. You can't have Elena.
I think it's Eleanor or Elena.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I don't know what's gonna ask.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I forgot to ask you, did you?

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Hey Michelle?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Hello, everybody in the chat room. So she is a
quantum healer and a life guide dedicated to helping individuals
heal and navigate their current life paths and other timelines.
That's so Yeah, is so drawing on a wealth of
diverse experiences, including angelic encounters, cryptids, and supernatural I want

(02:09):
to hear of those encounters and personal miracles and near
death experiences. So she offers a unique insight and guidance,
and her various clayers are active, enabling her at times
to channel concepts and answers. Currently, her focus is on

(02:33):
assisting people and navigating intense energies during this period of awakening,
and facilitating the healing of old paradoms, false belief systems,
and energy blocks that hinder soul growth. And on a
quantum level, that sounds awesome. Yeah, we're going to bring

(02:55):
her own. Well. Hello, so you pronounce that Elena or Elena.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Elena either way it is fine, but it's Elena. Yeah, okay, yeah,
thank you. Sure.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
I didn't want to mess it up too bad.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh no, you can't mess that one up too bad.
Thanks for having me on though, guys, it's it's great
to be here. I'm just going to kind of see
where the conversation goes. You said there was a few
things you wanted to ask me about or hear about,
and I can be kind of lengthy in my explanation

(03:36):
of things, so I will try to nip that and
make things a little shorter to see me.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
So that's all right. You know, we're all learning, so
you know, yeah, lengthy is needed for those of us
who may not know exactly what it is that you're talking.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
About, right right, Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, how did you get started in all this? Were
you born into it or did it just come to
you later?

Speaker 2 (04:08):
No, I've I was born with many gifts, and I
just want to say, first off, I'm just going to
explain my world the way that I see it. People
don't have to agree with me, and that's fine. Everybody
has their own spiritual beliefs and religious beliefs and that's great.

(04:28):
I'm not here to convince anybody of what I believe
or anything else. But back to my earliest childhood memories,
like I've always known, I was born knowing that Christ
was real. It wasn't anything anybody had to teach me.
Although I had family members that thought they were teaching

(04:49):
me about him, but like I already knew who he was.
It was something that I brought through the veil with
me when I incarnated into this planet. And but I've
always had gifts they were not. I could always read
the room, like even as a three year old, like,
I could read the room. I knew what was going

(05:10):
on right. And as I got older, my intuitive capabilities
came more online got stronger. And then I've been through
just a lot of a lot of different traumatic experiences
and different things in my life. And every time I've

(05:30):
had like a near death experience where I've actually crossed
over and come back, my gifts have become stronger. I
took three years off. Recently, I just got back into
working with people, which is which I never really stopped.
I stopped taking appointments, and I stopped working with my clientele,

(05:54):
but I still had friends and clients that had become
friends that stood by me. During the last three years
of just intense healing. I had some physical stuff going on,
but mostly it was what people call shadow work. It
was really healing my own intense traumas and past life stuff,

(06:16):
which that's a whole other subject, because the way I
understand it now is that past life stuff is not
past life stuff, but that we are actually living concurrent
lives on different timelines. But you know, I had to
really rain all that in and now I'm like much

(06:37):
more ready. I'm much healthier physically, and I'm just way
more ready to be back in the game. And I've
learned just recently, just in the last couple of weeks,
I've had a download about quantum healing and another way
that I could incorporate a certain type of healing energy

(06:58):
sending it to people. Because usually I'm just having a
conversation with someone, we start working on their family lines
and traumas and their family lines or traumas that they
personally have. And but I recently was shown something else

(07:19):
I could do, and I've been playing with like balls
of energy between my hands, and I've been doing like
fifteen to twenty minute meditations, and I've been sending that
out to some of the people I've been working with,
and that I just had a woman last week. I
worked with beck East. She had she had a stroke back.

(07:43):
It's almost been a year back in August of twenty
twenty four, and her left side is completely debilitated. And
she's very young, she's like in her early forties, so
and she basically it's turned her whole life upside down.
And now she's kind of in a home where she

(08:05):
had you know, she's in a wheelchair and she has
to have care and everything. So but I was she
was the first person I did. Well. I did it
to my dog first, because you can send energy to
any living being, right, And it wasn't that I was
worried it was gonna hurt anybody. I was just saying,

(08:26):
and it actually helped him a lot. Because one of
my dogs has a lot of health issues too, so
so I tried it for her and I got her
permission to send her healing before I even called her
and called her, to have our conversation and to go
over you know, all kinds of things to facilitate you know,

(08:49):
further healing for her. But I got her permission, because
that's always a big thing. You have to have someone's permission.
You can always send somebody, you know, light and love,
but as far as healing energy and stuff like that,
there are there are certain lines drawn in the universe.
My guides just said, there are certain rules, and you

(09:11):
can't take someone's free will away, so you have to
get permission for things like that. But anyway, I got
her permission. I worked on her for a half hour
before I called her, and then when I called her
and She didn't know that I was doing that. She
just knew that I was starting the healing, but she
didn't know exactly what I was doing. And I was
really concentrating on her left side and just sending her

(09:32):
this light. I had opened myself as the conduit for
the light to flow to her. And I'm in Idaho,
so she's I think she's five or six states away
from me, and she maybe, yeah, she's way back there.
But I asked her if she had noticed anything over
the last half hour, and she said she was so

(09:54):
excited because she was like, oh my gosh, She's like,
I felt pain and tingling in my left big toe
and she said, I haven't felt anything on my left
side since the stroke. Nothing, no pain, no nothing. So
that was that. Yeah, that was really awesome, and I had,

(10:15):
you know, I've been sending her energy every couple days,
and I'm going to actually because I got permission to
do that, and I'm gonna get an update on her
in the next few days. But anyway, then we had
our normal healing conversation where just different things come up.
When I'm talking to someone, I will see things, I

(10:37):
will hear things, I will see things about their ancestors,
I will you know, if they're carrying a lot of
shame energy or guilt energy or whatever, I'll know, like
what percentage you know they picked up in this lifetime,
or it's from another lifetime, or it is from an
ancestor that's been passed down. So it's just it's very interesting.

(11:02):
Quantum healing is amazing. And I got started with basically
in twenty fourteen. I was in my second marriage, and
my gifts had come pretty strongly online at that point,

(11:23):
but I had I've had two near death experiences since
then that that facilitated them coming on full bore and like,
and I'm sure they could even awaken more. My guys
just said, you know, you're not full boor yet, and
that's fine. I'm happy with where they're at. I don't
know if I want them to be completely you know, open,

(11:44):
but anyway, and I was drawn to the modality of
releasing emotions and past traumas and different things like that.
It wasn't I didn't really know to call it yet.
It was like emotion code work and some of your

(12:04):
viewers might be familiar with that. And then I read
a few books that just made a lot of sense
to me, and one of them was a near death
experience book. Her name at the time was Julie Rowe.
Now it's Julie Barnett, and so I actually I've been

(12:28):
working with her for several years. She I call her
my mentor. She's amazing. She's so much more than that.
But she has really helped me to understand better along
with my gifts, like you know, who who I am,
what my mission is, and I mean she never tells

(12:49):
you that, but she facilitates you learning, so to speak.
But she's also a profound healer. I think she's the
form most healer on the planet, honestly. But anyway, so
I just that's basically how I got started. I started

(13:09):
realizing that I have the ability to do these things
because I have insights and I can see and I've had,
you know, angelic experiences. I've had experiences with christ I've
I died in childbirth during the C section and came

(13:31):
back from that. I basically I don't know how many
times I died while I had the we'll just say
the virus. It was many. The third time I got it,
I was sick for several months and I just was
refusing to go to the hospital. I'm like, no, because

(13:52):
by this point my guides had facilitated so much healing
in my body that I the house we were living in,
I got shoved down a stairwell by a dark a
low vibrational entity, will just say, and I broke my foot.

(14:16):
I cracked like three bones in my foot and I
I was in massive amounts of pain. But like my guides,
I could hear them so clearly, and they're like, because
when it happened, it was wintertime and I had a
very tight laced up boot. It was like a moccasin

(14:37):
boot and it was very you know, and they just said,
don't take it off. Leave it on. You know, it'll
mitigate the swelling. And they they actually helped me through
that whole healing process. It happened like ten days before Thanksgiving,
and you know, that's when I started learning that I
could ask them to energetically transfer pain medication to me,

(15:02):
like anything that's of the earth, they can do that.
So any natural pain medication, you can ask for that
to be transferred. You can ask for vitamins and minerals
to be transferred, you can ask for all kinds of things.
The quantum field is amazing. And working with your angels,
you know, and your team is amazing. They can pretty

(15:25):
much do anything. Anyway. I had an experience where I
asked them. I was like, can you guys please work
on this? And my kids, you know, my adult kids
were like mad. They want me to go to the hospital.
They wanted me to do all this stuff, and I
was just like, you know, I don't need to because

(15:45):
I literally laid in bed asked for the healing and
I was able to see not with my naked eyes,
but with my mind's eye. I was able to see
three of my angelic team over my foot and I
could feel them working on my foot and they were
they healed it like and it was a mess. I've

(16:07):
got pictures of it. It was a mess. And that's
why my kids were so mad. You know. I've got
three kids. And they were just like, you know, you
go the doctor and I said, what are they going
to do? Well, they're going to X ray it and
I'm like yeah, and then what are they going to do?
I said, I already know. I said, it's not completely
broken broken, but there are three bones that are you know,

(16:27):
like fractured, you know, And and I had strained the
ankle as well, so it was just a mess. And
I was like, it just it's it's gonna heal, you know.
So so I healed from that, and that really taught
me so that when I had the virus, I was
just like, I'm not I'm not going to the hospital
because I for me personally, I just don't trust a

(16:49):
lot of doctors. Doctors are not innately bad human beings
or anything, but they're not taught correctly. They're taught very
little on the healing spectrum. They're not taught anything like
what I'm talking about, you know. And I mean they're

(17:10):
still pushing the food pyramid for goodness sakes, like they
just they're not you know, and and they you know,
and they're like pushers for the pharmaceutical companies. So I'm
just I just don't like doing it. And at the time,
all the hospitals were shut down, and you know, they
wanted you to stick stuff up your nose and all

(17:31):
this different stuff, and I knew I wasn't supposed to
be doing any of that. But anyway, my guys, I
just got to a point because I was crossing back
and forth through the veil back and forth through the veil,
meaning I was I was dying, like I'd be dead
for a couple of minutes and I'd come back right
because I'd be on the other side. And I was negotiating,
like because my one of my daughters was pregnant with

(17:53):
my first grandchild at the time, and so I was
negotiating like, I don't you know, this would be really
unfair if you called me back now, Like I really
want to be here because I had already foreseen some
stuff with my daughter's labor that was upcoming, and I

(18:14):
wanted to be there to be an advocate for her
and to be a go between her, between her and
the doctors and not let the doctors do to her
what they had done to me, which had killed me,
you know. So I was just like, I really want
to I'm sorry, just one second, they're shooting off fireworks.

(18:34):
We've got all these demonstrations. I lived just outside of Boise.
Hey stop stop. But so uh anyway, that was another
time because I was back and forth through the veil,
and my guides were just like, Okay, here's the deal.
If you want to stay, you've got to go get

(18:56):
hydrated at the hospital because at this point you need
you need, you need like massive fluids, like you're so dehydrated,
because I couldn't. This had gone on for about seven
weeks and I couldn't. I couldn't drink fluid. Very little
fluid stayed down most of it. I would just vomit.
You know. I was very very ill, and my internal

(19:18):
organs were shutting down, and I had gotten to a
point where I was in a lot of pain. So
I went to the hospital. I acquiesced, and they were
like they wanted me to start taking all this different
medication and everything, and they did MRIs and X rays
and apparently I had double pulmonary embolisms and both lungs.

(19:43):
I had two pints or not pints. I had two
like believe it was quarts of fluid that was surrounding
my internal organs, which is what happens when your internal
organs start to shut down. And so they had to
they had to drain that, they had to get me hydrated,
and then they wanted me to take all this medication
and I was like, yeah, no, thank you. And they

(20:06):
were so convinced I was going to die, and I
was just I was like, I'm not going to die.
And the doctor's uh, there was one in particular. He
got really mad and I was just like, I'm not
going to die, and he's like, yes, you are. Oh
and my heart was like I had what's called tacacardia,
meaning my heart rate was my resting heart rate was

(20:27):
up over one hundred and it had been that way
for several weeks. It was another thing from the virus.
And he's like, if you don't take this medication, you know,
your heart's going to give out and you're going to die,
you know. And I'm like, yeah, no, I'm not. And
so I didn't. Obviously I'm still here, but like I

(20:50):
knew because of my communication with the other side and
because I knew that there were still so many people
that I you know, we we kind of not kind
of my guys just said, we make contracts or you
could say, packs, with other souls before we even incarnate

(21:11):
to this earth, and and we you know, even if
it's just hey, I'm going to see you on such
and such a time at such and such a date,
and you're going to hold a door open for me,
even if it's just as simple as that, but we
do have all these intertwining just contracts and energies and

(21:33):
things throughout our lifetime that we just were oblivious, like
we don't understand really, but it's part of how interconnected
all of our energies really are. And so so yeah, anyway,
I got started helping and healing and working on people

(21:54):
and clearing energies. And I also have the ability of
like mediumship, which comes through on occasion. So if I'm
in a session with somebody, and I don't claim to
be a medium because it's not something I seek after
and I have personal reasons for that, but at times,
if I'm in a session with someone, a lot of

(22:17):
times I can see in my mind's eye, I'll be
able to see their angelic team, and sometimes I can
see another like ancestor or something like standing you know,
next to them or behind them or whatever. My uncle
passed away a couple of years ago, and I was
able to He was in another state when he passed away,

(22:39):
but I was able to see. I was talking to
my aunt, she was there with him before he passed,
right before he passed away, and I told her, I said, well,
Grahama's there with them, you know, because I could see
her there like and so I do have that ability
at times as well, but it usually comes through through
in a personal session with someone and then and usually

(23:02):
it's because the person wants to give whoever my session
is with a message of comfort or something something to
help them heal and to help them clear energy basically.
So yeah, and there's definitely a dark side to energy.

(23:22):
Energy is energy, but there are those who manipulate it
to do not good things, and there are those who
work with it like me, who only work with it
for light purposes. I you know, personally, I'm not into

(23:42):
casting spells and I'm not throwing shade on I mean,
everybody has their own path, but for me, I'm not
into like casting spells and doing stuff like that because
sometimes that stuff can boomerang back onto you. So I don't.
I don't deal with any of that. I deal with
angelic light beings and I am just the conduit. They

(24:06):
show me what to ask for when I'm working on someone,
and I ask for that, and so it's like the
energy flows through me. I'm the conduit. And then the
healing actually comes from heavenly Mother and Father, which is
you know, Yeshua and Sophia. So again, my own personal
belief system. I've had, you know, other experiences with angelic beings.

(24:36):
I don't know, what do you guys want to you
want to talk about quantum healing? Like, what do you want?
I've been talking for a bit here.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Oh, you're fine.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
You said something earlier that. So about a month ago,
we did a show on cheating death at the quantum level.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Okay, and earlier you.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Said something that just ring a bell and it was
funny because you said that, you know, when we die
and we come back, we're living multiple lives at the
same time, through multiple lives. Uh yeah, yeah, And that's

(25:22):
one thing that we talked about during that show, was
the fact that we're living multiple timelines at the exact
same time.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Mm hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
And uh and so I mean, if if you want
to elaborate on that, that would be that'd be awesome
because it actually something that we talked about before.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
So yeah, So basically the way that that I understand
it is that so like one of the things I'm
always telling my clients to be a sovereign being and
to take back your power and stand in your power
and sovereignty. You know, one of the main things to
that you call back your power from every level, layer, realm,

(26:02):
and dimension, and you call back your soul parts and pieces,
whether they've been given away, whether they've been stolen from you,
because that happens there. I mean the universe. The multiverse
is a big place, and there are entities out there
that you know, they try to steal our energy. And
so sometimes say you have a body in another dimension

(26:26):
or on another timeline that passes away, they will abscond
with that energy. And so the big you know, what
I always advise my clients is to call that, call
your soul parts and pieces back. I do that every
morning when I'm grounding and you know, in my prayer sessions,

(26:47):
and it really does help, and it makes you much stronger.
It makes it more difficult. I also put up shields.
It makes it more difficult for lower vibrational entities to
attach to you and get into your field. But as
far as the multiple timelines, yeah, so the way I
understand it, we do have different bodies living on different

(27:11):
in different dimensions and on different timelines. So I'm going
to incorporate something into this right now. My guides are
telling me too, They're like, don't forget tell them about
the smoke. So the last couple of weeks, and this
happened last year in August for a couple of weeks,
but the last couple of weeks prior to this conversation,

(27:34):
I have been smelling other dimensions that are pretty close
to this dimension that have been collapsing. And it's a
horrible smell. It's very acrid. It's it. It smells like
a house fire, you know, like chemicals and wood and
paint and you know, just it. It's not a good smell.

(27:55):
And it's been keeping me up at night. So I've
been having you know, I've been asking my team, like, Okay,
I understand that there's a timeline that's close by that
has collapsed, which probably means I have a body in
that timeline, and so that's how I'm physically smelling it
in this body. Is I'm smelling it from that body, Okay,

(28:18):
And so but it was very bothersome and I and
I I'm not filled with fear around it. It is
what it is. You know, we're in the times that
we're in. It's you know, whatever. I don't let it
bother me, but I I had to ask them to
make it stop because it was to the point where
I was walking around with my hand over my face
in my house, like I would have to cover my

(28:42):
mouth with like cloth or a pillow, like and you
can't sleep like that, right because you have to breathe.
So they were just like, you know, so they did
they stopped it. But I find it interesting because I
feel like, I feel like I'm back on a timeline

(29:03):
right now that I worked very hard to get off of.
And if I am, then that's I mean, we create
our own reality. And if I am, that's fine. That's
my purpose then, so that's you know, I'm not going
to fight against it, although I am still trying to
manifest myself off this current timeline. And we do that
through different decisions, different thoughts, everything we do, you know,

(29:28):
if we stay positive, you know. But I've been getting
sucked down the past couple weeks with all the garbage
it's been going on, and now this weekend things have
really intensified. You know, we got the Iran Israel thing
going on, we got you know, the nationwide conflicts going on.
You know, like there's a lot going on, and I

(29:50):
try to stay out of it. I don't watch the
news or anything, but I am on YouTube and so
I'll see things pop up and I'm just like, oh great,
you know so, But but yes, that is the reality
of it. We do have bodies in different dimensions or timelines,

(30:12):
or different dimensions and timelines. My guds just said, because
they're actually that's two separate things. But and it's it's
all to facilitate our growth. It's two x. But I
they're saying our growth and our learning on the planet.

(30:33):
So you know, I know there's a lot of religious
religions that believe that you know, you're only here once
and then you die and then that's it, right, But
that's not the way that that I understand it. And
that doesn't even make sense really, because even when you

(30:54):
leave this body, you're you go into another body, spirit matter,
you still we'll have a body when you cross over.
It's just it's it's more ethereal. It's not as heavy
and dense as the physical body we have now.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Well, so even science tells us, you know, through thermodynamics,
that energy can't be destroyed, and we are now, yes
we are. You can measure the energy that's in a person,
and so thermodynamics says that energy cannot be created nor destroyed.
So therefore it has to go somewhere exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
And our our heart, our hearts center puts off weight.
Like I think the consens well, the consensus used to
be in the scientific community that our brain puts off
the most energy and everything, but it's actually our heart
that does. Our heart projects out and into a wide

(31:53):
area around us. And then like animals have that as well,
Like horses, horses put off one of the widest ranges
of energy fields from the heart they put and that's
why you see these different programs with kids who have

(32:14):
different learning disabilities or stuff. There's several of them across
the United States where they call it, you know, horse
therapy and that the kids are able to go and
be with the animals or vets that are suffering from PTSD.
There's a lot of that, and it's because the horses
magnetic field that comes off of their heart is just

(32:36):
huge and it's very intense. Horses are amazing animals. So
so yeah, all of that is very it's very true.
And energy cannot be destroyed. And when I'm working on
someone and there are deposits of dark energy in their system,
their physical body, whether it's in the way of a virus,

(32:56):
or whatever. What I do is I ask for that
to be transformed and removed, and I ask for it
to be translated, transmuted, and transposed because at that point,
you're asking for the energy of that lower vibrational energy
that's within them to change. You're asking it to change
into light energy. And then if if it refuses to

(33:20):
change or to leave the body, I give it a chance,
because even viruses and bacteria, believe it or not, have
free will, Okay, So I give them the choice to change,
and then if they decide not to change, not to transmute,
then I do it anyway. I facilitate that through the
Angelic Team, and I just say, you know, change that,

(33:42):
flip that back out into the field, and repurpose that energy.
So it's quantum healing. And you know a lot of
people call it energy healing. You know, I call myself
anything from an energy practitioner to a heat Currently, I'm
calling myself a life guide because honestly, I don't know

(34:04):
what to There are so many things I can help
people walk through. I've helped people prepare to cross through
the veil and not be afraid and help them clear
energy around that because you know they had a debilitating disease.
I've helped people, and I've helped people do that. Even
before I started working on people as a quantum healer,

(34:26):
I was in a position in a job where I
was in the field and I worked with people who
were severely ill in their homes and I knew, like
I could tell if they were getting ready to cross
through the veil, and so we would have conversations and

(34:47):
I would kind of prepare them for it, and you know,
so it's I mean. And then I've helped people get
over the loss of a loved one, or I've helped
people navigate a divorce. You know, I've helped people like
you name it. I can help with it because I've
I've gone through like all of those things in my

(35:09):
own lifetime. And every time something would happen to me,
every time there was another illness, every time there was
another surgery, every time there was another near death experience,
or another car accident or whatever. I most of those,
by the way, I was not driving, But every time
I would, I would ask afterward, like why why, Like
I know I'm here for a reason, but what is it.

(35:31):
I'm not understanding what it is. I'm supposed to learn
or what it is I'm supposed to do. And then
I finally came to the understanding that it's because I
all of the abilities that I've had since birth and
then how they've gotten stronger and stronger over the years
is to help other people. And I finally understand the

(35:52):
age I am now and with all this you know,
life experience under my belt. Oh that's why I went
through those two divorces and with you know, narcissistic abuse
and all these other things, because now I can help
and facilitate healing for other people, to trans you know,
to push through that energy and to release those energies,
you know, so I don't regret any of it. You know,

(36:15):
I'm at a place where I'm I'm really good with
everything I've gone through, which is a phenomenal place to be.
It's you know, you're not angry, You're not You're just
it is what it is, you know, Yeah, exactly, And
just find joy, my guys are saying, you know, my
biggest advice to people these days is just find joy

(36:37):
where you're at, you know, regardless, just be thankful for
the things you have, regardless of whatever your financial situation is.
Or anything else. Just just find joy and be grateful
and that that goes a long way. Because when you're
angry and you're you're full of fear, one, you're drawing

(36:59):
that energy and those lower vibrational energies to you, and
so just compounds the effect. But when you're joyful and
when you're grateful, you're drawing good things into your timeline.
You're drawing, you're creating a better timeline for yourself. So

(37:19):
so yeah, like I thought we had to move a
few weeks ago, about a month ago they said we
had to move. We thought we were going to be
here two or three years because we rent the house
we're in. And I was upset at first. For about
twenty four hours, I was pissed and I was upset,
and I'm like, man, because they gave us two months notice.
But we'd only been in this house for ten months,

(37:41):
you know, and I had planned on being here a
few years because I hate movie and you know, and
I had made that clear when we moved in. And
then the owner was like, oh, I have to take
back the house. And then it was like okay, so
I let it go. Oh, I like really let it go.

(38:01):
And I wasn't angry at her anymore. I'm like, hey,
we're all walking our own path, like whatever she's got
to do. Like, you know, I was just like, take
care of this, you know. I was just telling my guys,
all right, I'm leaving this up to you. I'm not
stressing over it. You know. This is I want a
house like this house. I want it to not be
I want it to be for about the same amount
of money, you know, and all this stuff, and because

(38:26):
we have animals and everything, and because I'm also helping
to raise my granddaughter and two of my children, my
adult children live with me. They all we all work.
But the cost of living is like so expensive right
now that like, you know, rather than you know, struggle
in our own individual apartments, we just rent like nice

(38:49):
decent houses, you know, like where we can have our
animals and my granddaughter has a yard to play in
and stuff like that. Like we'd rather just cohabitate and
pull our money together, because you can get you can
get a better place to live that way, you know.
So But anyway, like once I just let it go
and then within like a couple of weeks, and I

(39:12):
was I kept thinking I should really start packing, I
should really start packing. And my guys were just like, nah,
just just chill, just chill, and I'm like all right,
and then I get this phone call out of the
blue and they're like, Oh, you don't have to move anymore.
And oh, by the way, she the owner would be
happy for you to stay and he's willing to give

(39:32):
you a two year lease. So it was I truly
believe that if I would have kept stressing on it,
that would not have been able to come about. Yes,
that would have been my new reality.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
That reality instead of the one that manifesting absolutely.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yes, exactly exactly. And you know, I have a lot
of clients that work with me just on manifestation techniques,
and it's like, well, you got to be happy and
you can't stress on things. You just you just have
to know that it's going to work out.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
What you most think about. So if you're thinking about, oh, man,
I don't want to move, well, it's it's guess what
you're going to move because you're thinking about moving.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Anything that starts with an, I am sentenced to. That's
what I'm I'm always very I'm always telling people that,
like if you're saying I am broke or I am sad,
or I am sick, or I am unhealthy, then that
is what it's going to be. If you flip that
energy and say I'm healthy, even if even if you've

(40:36):
got like say issues with your knees or something, Nope,
I'm completely healthy. Pretty soon your body and the cells
of your body will start to go in line. They
will start to line up with the thoughts that you
are creating because you are creating that reality for yourself.
If you say, you know, I'm abundant, you know, while

(41:00):
well maybe you have one dollar in the bank, but
you do have food in the kitchen, you know, and
you have a roof over your head, you know, then
you're abundant. You know it. You don't compare your abundance
to other people's, you know, So it's really important to
to do that. It makes a big difference in our reality.

(41:22):
I don't I think I answered your questions about the timelines,
But is there did you want to go more in
depth about that? Was there something else with that?

Speaker 3 (41:32):
We got a question from one of the people in
chat room. Sure, baby girl casp versus, how can I
ask how you navigate healing from a loss of a loved.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
One that I'd be happy to talk to her. I
think my phone, my phone number should be on the screen.
I have been doing free forty five minut sessions with
people just to because I'm trying to help the collective heal.

(42:06):
So and then if somebody wants to tip me after
the session, that's fine. If they don't, that's fine too.
I'm just I'm trying to help. That isn't a question.
That's a very in depth question, and it depends on her,
and it depends on the circumstances that she's dealing with.

(42:28):
Like right off the bat, I'm getting that she's she's
had other circumstance. She's she's lost a love, a loved
one more than once, and so she's there's a lot
of there's a lot of trapped emotion there. I'll just
say that I don't want to, you know, out all
her personal stuff, but I'd be happy to talk to

(42:49):
her and anybody else who's listening. Yeah, that's what I'm
doing these days.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
She said, what she can't sleep?

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, yeah, I would. First of all, when you're having
problems sleeping, you can ask. And I really want people
to understand this, each one of us has an angelic team,

(43:26):
regardless of whether you believe in that or not. It's
the reality of things. We each have an angelic team.
Some of us have one, some of us have two.
Usually we all have at least two. Sometimes we have three,
sometimes we have four. It has to do with what
we asked for before we incarnate it into this into

(43:46):
the earth and into this body. So you can ask
your angelic team to please energetically transfer into your system
things that will help you sleep, like such as you know,

(44:09):
melatonin or CBD or whatever. Just say, whatever my system
would most benefit from, can you please help me do
this and energetically transfer it. And then breath work, you know,
if you do deep breathing for you know, five minutes

(44:29):
when you're having insomnia, because that's something I used to
struggle with a lot, that helps as well. Okay, but
I do see that, like I'm feeling that she's got
a lot of there's there's some ancestral stuff that's been
passed down to There's there's wounding. I just heard ancestral wounding,

(44:50):
And there's a lot of stuff that I'd be more
than happy to help her clear.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
So she says she misses his snoring lol.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't find your number.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
You know, he hasn't. How do I put this? When
I tell people they haven't gone anywhere, then they worry
that they haven't gone to heaven or whatnot. But let
me just give you a little explanation of how this works. So,
anytime you think about someone, you are creating an energetic

(45:25):
chord to them, and vice versa. Okay, you attach your
energy to theirs. So if you're thinking about a loved
one that has passed on, you are basically attaching your
energy to theirs, and you are calling them in okay,
And and I'm I feel like he's already there. He's

(45:46):
like around her a lot, so and that's probably because
she's thinking about him a lot. But just as we
have the ability to be in different dimensions and different
timelines at the same time, that doesn't change when we
when our energy physically transfers and becomes more ethereal and thinner,

(46:09):
it doesn't change. So you know, I hope that is
comforting for her. And and my guides are saying, you know,
to tell her that she can talk to him. He
does hear you, our loved ones hear us when we
speak to them again, it's that energy transfer they do

(46:30):
hear us. Time is very different on the other side
of the veil than it is here. We tend to
think of it as linear, you know, it's just this
life and time goes from point A to point B.
But it really doesn't. It's everything is happening now. So
if you're talking to someone that has passed on, they

(46:53):
are hearing you in the now, you know, they really do.
They do you, so hopefully that that helps her. And again,
I know everybody has different belief systems and that that's fine,
but this is my world, like, this is how I
understand things right, and yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
I align with what you're what you're putting down because
I feel the same thing exactly. Yeah, you know, you know,
getting back to what we were saying a little bit
ago though, it's it's really crazy. So when we did
our show before talking about you know, this this subject. Now,

(47:45):
I guess you maybe you can put this a little
bit better. We we kind of put it as in
So let's say you're dreaming. Not all the times are
your dreams not real? Sometimes that's you on other timeline,
Oh yeah, for sure. And sometimes when you dream that
you have died, and you you swear you just died,

(48:08):
I mean dream you just died. Mm hmmm, that was
actually a death of you in one of the other timelines.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yes, that's correct. And then there's like, so I don't
even call it dreaming anymore, because really we're not dreaming.
Our physical body just goes into a state of like
for lack of a better word. My guys are saying
stasis like, because the physical body has its own constraints

(48:37):
and it needs to rest, but our spiritual body does
not like it. It travels and it can do other things.
And generally when we travel from the body, we still
are anchored by a cord to our body, right, we
still have an energetic chord to our physical body. Right.

(49:00):
But I have I had some interesting things going on
this morning. I woke up at four am and I
went back to sleep, and I didn't I wasn't really sleeping,
and it was very vivid, and I've been kind of
trying to decipher that stuff all day what was going on.
But but yes, that is very much true. That can happen.

(49:21):
And I know Rob on his channel has talked about
that a lot, and he says, you know, when he's
sometimes these dreams are so vivid that he he feels
like he's somewhere else and it feels like he's there
for months, and it feels like he's living a whole
nother life there, like he has kids there in a family.

(49:44):
And then he'll he'll wake up in the body in
this timeline. And I've had that same discussion with him. Well, yeah,
because you you do you know, you do you? And
and what's happening now, which is what I'm really trying
to help people navigate, is the veil is thinning. There
are many different portals that have been opening up, and

(50:08):
the veil is getting super thin. And you know that
is talked about in scripture too, but I don't want
to go into scripture. But some things in scripture are true,
and that's one of them. And the veil is thinning,
and the Earth is has begun its ascent not decent,

(50:29):
and there are many timelines that are going to be collapsing,
and there are many that will not that will go
on and continue on the Earth as the Earth continues
to ascend. So where was I going with that? I
got lost? Sorry, I go down rabbit holes and then
but yeah, there's many different portals and energy and there's

(50:58):
all this different stuff. So the veil listening and so
people's dreams. As I've been talking to people recently, especially
over the past six months, people's dreams have been becoming
extremely more vivid. They're remembering more, you know, And I've
had clients tell me, I haven't remembered any any of

(51:19):
my dreams for twenty years, and now all of a sudden,
I'm I'm remembering them and they're super vivid, and they're
super clear, super clear, Like what's going on. Well, we've
got portals opening, We've got all this light energy flooding
the planet. We also have lower vibrational portals that are
open that are also trying to flood the planet. We've
got all these planetary alignments. We've got just there's so

(51:44):
much going on in our not just in our planet,
but you know, my guys are telling me a ton
of stuff. So we have access points into our bodies
and those are opening. We have It's not just it's

(52:06):
not just that there's these access points and portals that
are being opened on the Earth, but we have access
points and portals within our physical systems that are coming
online and that are opening up, and so it's all
to facilitate the greater knowledge and what everybody's calling, you know,
the awakening, right, because we're just getting flooded with knowledge.

(52:29):
I mean, if you look at stuff three or four
years ago, yeah, you know, you could keep up, Like
I was pretty good at keeping up with all the
new stuff that was being talked about and quantum physics
stuff and you know, CERN and all that crap and
all that they were doing. And but now ever since

(52:52):
the last we'll just we'll just notate it this way.
Ever since not the current UH administration, but the one
before it, Ever since that whole thing happened in twenty twenty.
It was kind of like a debacle that switched our
timelines a little bit. And and I'm not political. I'm

(53:15):
not taking one side or the other because I see
the I see both sides for what they are, so
I just I won't go there. But ever since that happened,
it really like shifted things. And then we were getting
thank you, my guys are saying information overload. We were
just we were being inundated daily with you know, thirty

(53:39):
or forty different things that we hadn't heard or that
that we're compounding onto stuff that we already knew, and like,
like it was really stressing people out, and that's what
it was meant to do. And then we were being
hit with all these frequencies and the five G and
like they like really started pushing all that, you know,

(54:02):
and then you go into the stuff they spray on
us and the florid they put in our water which
comes up our pinial gland, and like it's there's so
much that has been pushed on us to make us.
My guys are saying far less the superior beings that

(54:26):
we were created to be, and it really yeah, yeah,
totally and and you know, but now we're we're having
a lot of stuff come back online. It's our people
are starting to wake up. You know. Not everyone. There

(54:48):
are a lot of people who are really stuck in
the negative loops that they push through the media and
that they push through different agendas politically and every there's
a lot of people stuck in those negative loops. But
there's a lot of people that aren't. You know, there's
a lot of people that are really understanding, you know,

(55:08):
and there's a lot of people that their spiritual gifts
are opening up because That's the thing is we all
have them. We all have the ability, you know, to
speak to each other telepathically and all this different stuff
we really do. It's just like I said, with all
the aforementioned things, they've gummed up that ability. They've lied
to us about our origins. They've lied to us about

(55:32):
so much that we it's hard for people to even
fathom who we really are now, which is sparks of divinity.
You know, we have the sparks of divinity within us.
We are divine beings of light, and whether we choose

(55:53):
low vibrational darkness, that's our free will and our choice.
But we were created as divine beings of light. So
that's just the you know, the reality of it.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
But yeah, Charlotte says she loves you, Oh hi, Charlotte,
and Shelle says, how can we open ourselves to become
our higher self and our gifts?

Speaker 2 (56:24):
You know, there's there's a lot. There's a lot to that, basically, uh, meditation,
connecting with your your angelic team, that's where I would start.
There's there's a lot to it. But a lot of

(56:44):
people's gifts are just starting to come online regardless, they
just they're not sure. They don't know what to do
with it. Like for me, like Claire, audience is probably
one of the favorite gifts I have, right because I
hear my angelic team and a lot more. Most people
have that ability, but they don't think they're hearing their

(57:05):
angelic team. They think it's just them. They think it's
just them and their head saying stuff or whatever, and
it's not. And you know, they won't tell you what
to do. Like I'm not gonna say what happened, but
let's just say this. Last week, I went into my

(57:26):
backyard and as I was walking out the back to
go do my meditation and ground, you know, barefoot on
my lawn and everything, and sit in my little lawn chair,
I was like, and I'm sure, Charlotte, anybody else that
knows me is laughing right now because they know what
I'm not gonna say. But my guides were very They
were like, hey, you should grab one of your phones
and take them with you. And I never take my

(57:47):
phones outside when I do that because I don't want interruption.
And I was just like, yeah, well, I'm just going
outside to do this. I'm only gonna be out here
like twenty minutes I don't need my phone, and they
said it again, and they don't normally do that, and
I blew it off. I blew them off completely. Well,
it turns out I got myself in a situation in
the backyard and it was ninety degrees that day. It

(58:11):
was hot. Because by the time I went out there
to do all this, it was about eleven thirty. I
was stuck in the backyard for two hours in the
baking sun, no water. I was trapped, and nobody could
hear me in the house. Now, had I had my
phone with me, right, I would have been able to

(58:32):
call somebody in the house to come and help me.
But I didn't have my phone. So yeah, so even me,
like we all have free will, right, and your guides,
you know, they speak in a like like a regular
person that doesn't know they're hearing their angelic team would

(58:54):
just be like, why did I think that I don't
need my phone? You know, And then and then they
would think it again and be like, oh, I don't
need my phone. But that's that's how they come out,
you know, That's how they talk. They're like, hey, you
should do this. Hey, it might be they don't say
should because they never tell you what to do, but
they do advise and they were like, it might be

(59:15):
a good idea to grab your phone.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
You know, this is this is something we just talked
about Thursday. It is exactly the third man factor, the
third man syndrome. When you get in that situation, you
hear other yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
You do, yeah, yeah you do, you truly do. And
generally that is your angelic team. Like they will intervene,
and they'll intervene more strongly if if you're not used
to hearing them, they will be louder or it'll come
across louder or especially if you're in a life and

(59:57):
death situation. Like generally they will not ever forcibly intervene
without you asking for help, right, but say you're praying
or you're asking for help or whatever, then absolutely they
will intervene. But if it's life and death and it's
not your time to cross through the veil yet, they

(01:00:18):
will do their best to facilitate a miracle. And they can.
They can facilitate miracles. And I had one of the
most powerful experiences I ever had, not the most, but
it was powerful. It was right before my divorce to

(01:00:41):
my last husband, and didn't know I was getting divorced,
yet I was stuck in a religious box that was
really curtailing all of my spiritual gifts as they were
fully coming online. And it was right prior to a
few my last couple near death experiences, but I'd already
had a couple, and so my my gifts were really

(01:01:04):
pretty much online. And I had an experience where I
was driving in the truck with my ex husband and
I don't remember what he was angry about, but he
had the tendency to get physical, and I knew it
was coming, like we were driving, and I was scared
because we were driving and he was driving erradically and

(01:01:25):
he was screaming at me at the top of his lungs.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
And I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Didn't even know I could do this, but I was
just I like, I cried out in my mind for help,
and all of a sudden, I saw a flash, like
I saw an angelic being. And then I saw this
wall of light go up between he and I and

(01:01:51):
we were sitting next to each other in the truck,
and it was like it was it was like it
was coming from my body right this wall of light,
and it happened while he was screaming at me, and
it literally all of a sudden, words just quit coming

(01:02:11):
out of his mouth, and it kept opening his mouth
to like speak, and he couldn't. And all of a sudden,
the look on his face. He looked at me and
there was like all this fear on his face. It
literally the darkness that was within him in that moment,
it like shut it down completely. And that was a

(01:02:35):
really powerful experience to have because I asked for the help.
And then literally I saw like this flash like an
angelic being. Like even just from saying that, I'm seeing
it again in my mind's eye. It was like I
saw a white sword and like like this flash of

(01:02:55):
a being that just came across me, like across my lap.
And then there was all this light between he and I.
We never discussed it. We both were in shock from it.
We both experienced it. It was a totally different experience
for me than it was for him, right because it
made him afraid. It did not make me afraid at all,

(01:03:16):
Like I was just in awe, you know. And then
five days later he left my house and I slept
for about two weeks straight, and I was divorced six
months later. I've never seen him since then, we'd only
talked a couple times. He refused to divorce me, so
I had to jump through a bunch of hoops to

(01:03:37):
divorce him by myself without him participating. And yeah, so
our angelic team is very, very very real. And there
was another time I was in a rollover accident. Was
I I was driving that time, my f three point

(01:04:01):
fifty was rolling over and I was partially ejected out
the window and we were rolling from side to side
right not not end over end, but side, you know,
to side, and I was I was the only one
in the vehicle. I got partially ejected out the window

(01:04:22):
and I saw the ground coming and like in that
split second, it just time slowed down. It's it became
so slow and everything like there was so much that
went through my mind, like, oh my gosh, this is it.
My kids are going to have to go with their dad,
and their dad is you know, got all these issues,

(01:04:43):
and because I had custody in my three kids, and
that wasn't the husband I was just talking about. I
was their dad, was my first husband, and it was
before I was married a second time. But I was
all this was going through my head and I was
just like no, and then I just cried out in
my mind and this all happened in a second, but

(01:05:03):
I was just like, you know, Lord help me, and
all of a sudden I saw him. He was just
like right there as the ground was approaching. And as
I saw him, somebody, which I believe was one of
my angelic team, grabbed me by the leg and pulled
me back into the truck. And then when the truck

(01:05:24):
hit down on that rotation where I would have been
out the window, it sealed the window and everything shut
so I could no longer fly out of the vehicle,
and the truck rolled like three more times, and I
walked away from that with very very little injury, like
very little injury. Like when the paramedics got there, the

(01:05:45):
truck literally looked like a giant had stepped on the
cab of the truck and on part of the bed,
and they did not understand how I could still be walking,
how I was able to get out of the vehicle.
It was just there were so many miracles around that,
you know. I had like just a slight crack in

(01:06:06):
my femur, but it wasn't anything real bad, and I
have like a sprained a really bad sprained wrist. But yeah,
so I mean they are angelic team is real, you know,
they really are and they that third man theory you
guys were talking about that is that I believe is

(01:06:30):
your angelic team because they will help you get out
of situations that you you know, especially when they're life
and death, you know, and especially if it's not not
your time, and they will intervene if it's not your time,

(01:06:50):
even if you don't ask, like whether it's a car accident,
you know, and different things. There's a lot like if
you just look up and Angelic Mirror online, there's there's
so many different stories of people, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
Well that show that Jason was talking about. We we
went over just eight cases, one of which was a
nine to eleven case where the guy says that he
was on what was it like the eighty something floor
or something just just right above excuse me, where one
of the planes hit and something told him that he

(01:07:29):
needed to go and he's they said that every one
of these people says it's the same thing. It's a
loving voice. You can tell, it's kind, it's it's it's
wanting to help. But this guy actually says that it
physically grabbed him, yeah, moved him towards the exit. And
this guy actually ended up being the last person off

(01:07:53):
that high up before the place before the towers collapsed.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Wow, I believe it. I believe it. They like like
with what would happen to me in the rollover? Like
I felt someone grab my leg like right behind my
knee and like forcibly pull me back Like it didn't hurt,
but it was a jolt because they like they pulled

(01:08:19):
me back quick, like it was quick, and you know,
I know that was it had to be one of
my my angelic team, Like there was no one else
in the vehicle with me, so it had to be
you know. But yeah, the quantum field, it really does exist,

(01:08:43):
and it really is you know, energy just it never dies.
We're all energy, and there's so much energy out there
and we there's so many different planets, there's so many
different beings. There's just there's so much. It's just it's amazing,

(01:09:05):
you know how much there really is out there that
people don't don't understand because it's been kept from us.
You know, like like for instance, my GUIDs are saying
there there are ways like Atlantis and Lemuria were real
places and a lot of the knowledge from those places
is going to start coming out, like like unending electricity.

(01:09:31):
They had ways for electricity that is is not it's
nothing like what we have now. And and it was unending,
you know, and it was free. It wasn't something anybody
had to pay for anything. That isn't how it worked
back then. And I mean, that's a whole nother rabbit hole.
But there's a lot of ancient knowledge that is coming forward,

(01:09:56):
and you know there there is they're wanting me to
say something. Hang on. They're saying that Mother and Father's
energy both is rising at this time as well. So
like people talk about the divine feminine, and I understand

(01:10:18):
the divine feminine to be heavenly mother, which is Sophia.
And if you look in Gnostic texts and different things,
that's a whole nother subject to go down. But Sophia,
she is the goddess mother. And yeah, sure, Christ is
the divine masculine. He is the Father. And people where

(01:10:41):
I run into problems is you have all these people
that are straight religion religious zelots, like they want to
just believe the Bible and they want to just believe
that things are the way they put it in the Bible,
but they took a lot out of the Bible. They
took so much truth out of there that directly pertains

(01:11:05):
to women in general. And all of those texts and
all of those different things are coming forward now. Now
am I saying that the Bible is completely inaccurate. No,
there's a lot of truth in the Bible. But like,
for instance, when people, you know, there's a lot of
the new wave religious people that you know, believe in

(01:11:27):
manifestation and they don't call God God or Christ or
anything like that. They call it source. Right. Well, the
way that I understand it is Christ is the source.
He is the source of all healing. He is the source,
at the center of the energy, the creator of all
of the universe. So if you want to call him source,

(01:11:47):
that's fine, like that, that's your progative. I don't take
offense to it. I used to, but I've cleared all
that energy because it's not about controlling people can have.
They can choose to have relationships with Divinity however they
choose to or however they choose not to. You know,

(01:12:09):
it's their choice, you know, and I'm I'm that's not
my job. Is to shove it down anyone's throat. But
I just know that I work with light energies and
that I facilitate healing through those those light energies or
the source of healing, which as I understand it is
Yeshua and Sophia. So and there was a time I

(01:12:33):
just I'll end with this one. There was a time
I thought it was an angelic being. I have since
come to understand that it was not an angelic being.
It was actually Sophia that came to me. And this
was prior to me having understanding of Sophia. But it
was right after, right before I got divorced, right after

(01:12:56):
he had left, and I was facilitating the divorce, but
it hadn't happened yet, and I was very depressed and
I was getting out. I was ending a very serious
illness as well, and I just felt like very alone.
But like I knew I wasn't alone, because I'd had,
you know, a near death experience or two by then,

(01:13:18):
and I knew my my angelic team was there. But
I was just I was just pissed. I was just
pissed at how my life had gone, and I felt
like I had wasted so many years you know. And
so I was literally just sobbing on my bed and
it turned from light outside it was dusk, and then
it got dark and I was just laying in just
complete darkness in my room. And I was living in

(01:13:41):
northern Idaho at the time, and when it gets dark,
it's like dark. And I was just in complete darkness
in my room, and I was just crying out and
I said, and I was angry, you know, And I said,
I know you're there. I know you're there. You know
that I know you're there. You know that I know
you real, but I need some comfort. I want to know.

(01:14:04):
I want to know. I want you to be in
the field. I want to know that you're right here
with me, even though I already know, if that makes
any sense. And then I I just I went back
to crying because nothing happened. And then I was sobbing
and whatnot, having a meltdown, and about I don't know,
maybe five to ten more minutes into that meltdown, all

(01:14:27):
of a sudden, I felt this very gentle touch. It
was a hand and it was warm. There was no
one else in that room with me. My dog was
laying with me on the bed next to me on
the opposite side. I was laying on my stomach and
I felt a hand just above my knee on my
leg and it it it made me like you know,

(01:14:51):
because like it startled me, you know, and then and
then I got the intuitive download, you know, like don't
be afraid, and then hand like lifted off and I
was just it instantly, like it changed everything, like moving
forward from there. I didn't have another meltdown like that

(01:15:12):
because it was like I knew, I already knew, but
like to have an actual physical manifestation like that of
like I'm here, I'm with you, I'm comforting you. I
thought it was my guardian angel. I didn't see it
in my mind's eye or anything. But since then I

(01:15:34):
have learned that it was actually Sophia comforting me. So
it was Heavenly Mother. So it's you know, they are
aware of us, and just as our angelic team is
aware of us, and they are with us, and and
you know, a lot of different religious boxes try to

(01:15:56):
tell us that if we do this, we're not gonna
make it to heaven. If we do that, we're not
going to make it to heaven, and blah blah blah,
and I do believe in the atonement, but the way
that I understand the atonement now, atonement to me just
means at onement, meaning you are understanding that you are

(01:16:21):
at one with the Creator, that you are part of
the Creator. The Creator is within you. He's not just
without or she's not just without like they're in you.
You're part of that. You're a divine spark. And when
you really embrace that, you're able to let go of
fear because it doesn't really matter what happens in this

(01:16:42):
dimension or any other dimension, because we do not die.
There is no death, you know. So, and I've had
a lot of people ask me over the years, well,
how can you just not be afraid? And it's like, well,
because I don't. When you when you get to a
point where you don't fear death or what else is

(01:17:03):
there to fear? You know? I mean, it just it's
it becomes a silly thing at that point, you know.
And I'm not I'm not saying people who are afraid
are silly, That's not what I'm meaning by that, but but.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
You know, yeah, so, well they just don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
No, that's where they're at, not knowing. I used to
fear it quite a bit. But since we've been doing
this and learning as we go and all the things
that that that people have taught us. Mm hmmm, I
don't really fear it that much anymore because I know

(01:17:44):
somebody else is there, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
I started seeing ghosts at the age of three.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Mm hmm. I've heard you mentioned that a few times, y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
Yeah, And so I've seen them my whole life, right,
So I tell people I've had an unfair advantage because
I know there's something after this. I don't know, right,
I think you know, most of us are in the
dark about it. I do know there's something else, yes,
because I've seen on my whole life, I've seen people.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
At the age of three, you know that, I would
wake up every morning, almost every single morning, at three
o'clock in the morning, there would be three or four
people standing in my bedroom and it was Yeah, I
remember running running out of the bedroom and these things
would follow me, follow me, and I would be screaming,

(01:18:37):
and my mom would be like, what's going on? And
and I would tell her, but of course no one
else could see them. And so then we'd go to
church and then the preacher would be like hey, you've
got a gift and that three. I was like, you
want it because.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
I don't want this.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
Yeah, and so you know, it was it was funny
now looking at it, it's it's completely different, right, But yeah,
I was like, man, I was mortified. It was it
was probably the scariest thing I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Yeah. It was hard. It was hard.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Yeah. Luckily I didn't I didn't have too many of
those experiences. I did see a lot of orbs though
as a child, different colored orbs and things like that.
But mainly, mine was just a feeling like I could
feel if there was another being in the room with me,
and I could feel whether it was I mean, I

(01:19:39):
didn't have these words at that time, you know, at
three or four years old, but I could feel whether
it was malevolent or whether it was you know, of
the light, and if and if it was a malevolent feeling,
I would do the same thing. I would run to
my grandma's room because my grandma mostly raised me and everything,
you know, and I'd go climb in bed with her
and I'd be like, yeah, there's something in my room
and she'd be like, well, what's in your room? And

(01:20:00):
I'm like, I don't know, but there's something in there,
you know. I don't want to be in there, you know.
So I think that would have been more traumatic in
your in your position, to be able to actually see
them at that young of an age. It was.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
It was scary. What was funny looking back on it now, though,
What's what was the funniest part of it? Because I
remember being five, about five years old, and I was
in the middle of running and screaming from from from
these things, and I actually in the middle of it,
just kind of stopped and turned around and looked at

(01:20:35):
him and said, I'm not afraid of you no more.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
Yeah, And then and that's what they were feeding off of.

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
Yes, And that was the end of it, no more.
It never slept all, not long. It never happened again.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Yeah, because once you stood your ground, you took your
power back, and then they they no longer because they'll
use they'll use they'll use loopholes to feed on your energy.
So come on, mim, I go get in the car.
They'll use they will use loopholes to feed on your energy.

(01:21:11):
Like there's all these different laws set in the universe
right where they theoretically they're not supposed to be able
to do that, but they find they find loopholes to
be able to to try to steal energy and stuff,
you know, and even you know, during my divorce and everything,

(01:21:37):
I had a lot of malevolent energies around me because
my Okay, I'm gonna put that right there, because my
ex husband, you know, he he carried a lot of
dark attachments and I didn't really realize to the extent,
and some of them kind of stayed behind after he left,

(01:21:58):
and you know, I just I got to a point
where I had to stand my ground and I just
had to tell them that they needed to leave, that
they didn't have my permission to be there. And you know,
when I first started doing that, you know, it's it's
spiritual warfare, right, and when I first started doing it,

(01:22:19):
Hang on just one second, Okay, let me get this
in here. Okay, no, baby, I'm not done talking. I'm
still on the phone. You know, Grandma, Grandma's never done talking. Okay,
A magnet. I know, I know we're gonna go get Auntie. Katie.

(01:22:42):
Why you I know, I know you've been being so
good and you've been watching your show, and you've been
being really good taking care of the other puppies and
Kitty for me. Love her so much. It's awesome. Poor.
So but yeah, I would, I would stand my ground

(01:23:07):
with them. Yeah, I'm still on the phone just second, okay,
But I would. I would stand my ground and I
would tell them, you know, and then sometimes like I
would feel the malevolence gets stronger, like they were they

(01:23:27):
were pissed because I was telling them they couldn't be
there right and I was standing in my power and
it was something I had never really done uh with
them before, and but I was at this point, I
was learning spiritual warfare. And so, but if you just
if you just stand up to them, because a lot

(01:23:49):
of people I've had people clients tell me, well, when
I stand up to them, the feeling gets worse. You know,
maybe something will fly around the house or whatever. And
I'm like, yeah, but that is that's like it's like
a two year old throwing a tantrum when that starts happening,
because they know that if you stay in your power

(01:24:10):
and you stand your ground, they it long and out.
I would I would just stand there and out and
then you know, they'd go away. And then a few

(01:24:32):
days later you know they might come back.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
It looks like we're we're you're cutting in and out.
So are you still there?

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
So yeah, we probably lost her anyway, maybe she'll come
back in a second, but I know she's busy.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
Hello, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
What we lost you?

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
Yeah? Oh, I'm sorry. Maybe my nope, okay, yeah, I'm driving,
but I've got you guys in my little dash things,
so I'm driving hands free, but I mean I'm not
holding the phone.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
Sorry about that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
You can go ahead and give out where people can
find you and stuff. We'll we'll let you, you know,
go do what you gotta do, and then.

Speaker 4 (01:25:36):
We would love to have you back on hopefully a
two hour show.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
Okay, yeah, I'd be happy to do that. And people
can reach me at Elena's E L E N A
s j oh you are n E y Elena's Journey
four four four and that's at gmail, and you can

(01:26:07):
also reach me by phone. You can text me if
you would like a healing session or a forty five
minute free like page you will session. That's I'm offering
initial sessions for that, and you can text me or
you can reach me on the email, but you can

(01:26:29):
also text me at two o eight seven seven seven,
five three three nine. And if you guys want to
put that information under the video, that would be that
would be great, That would be fine with me. But yeah,
I would love to come back on, you know, anytime

(01:26:52):
like this was a really good conversation. I've just gotten
to a point like when I used to do shows
and stuff, for just anything, I would I would try
to ask my guys, Okay, what am I supposed to
talk about? What is this? What is that? But this
has been really good because it's just been I didn't
do that. I haven't done that the last couple that
I've done. It's just been more of a free flow

(01:27:13):
and I've just let the energy go where it's gonna go.
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:27:17):
That's the way we like to do a show too.
I mean, yeah, a little bit of you know, starting
off in one direction, but knowing that there may be
fifteen rabbit holes that we want to go down. Yeah
it's okay because you know, you can always come back
on again, and so I think it makes it a

(01:27:42):
lot more interesting and you could usually get more stuff
out when you just have a good conversation than than
when something is pre planned. And Okay, we're going to
talk about this or just whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
You know, Yeah, it doesn't allow the energy to flow freely.
My guys just said, it just doesn't. It's better when
the energy is just flowing. It's more authentic, it's it's
and it it. It touches people in a different way.
It triggers things in them for healing in a different

(01:28:14):
way than if it's thank you, overly structured, overly structured.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
So yeah, absolutely, I'll get in touch with the agreemail
schedule to show again.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Okay, sounds good.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
We really appreciate it, appreciate you and you absolutely your
words have helped me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
I know, oh good good I I That's really just
what I'm trying to do is just I'm trying to
help the the collective, the christ consciousness, just everybody. I'm
just trying to help everybody heal and clear things so
that they can get out of fear, energy and sadness

(01:29:00):
and forlorn and you know, unworthiness and like all these
different false paradigms that we've been indoctrinated with since birth. Really,
you know yea, So all right, well it's been great, guys, Yes, ma'am,

(01:29:20):
thank you. I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you,
you guys, have a great rest of your evening.

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
You too, be careful, careful, Thank you, bye bye.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
All right, that was Helena. That was an awesome, Yes,
awesome show.

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
We actually went a little bit over because you know,
we'd talked a little bit before and she's almost going
to go about fifteen minutes after, but she gave us
an almost another fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
So yeah, appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
Yeah, we we thank you for your time, and you
know we're gonna have this conversation with her, so everybody. Sorry, Cindy,
we didn't get to say what it was that it
was that is wanted us to ask a question about
Please when we reschedule this, come back and we'll make

(01:30:14):
sure that before the end of the show we ask
all your questions.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
Yes, yes, And I want.

Speaker 4 (01:30:22):
To say thanks everybody for showing up and chiming in
and everything giving us your time, right because there's other
things that people could be doing on Saturday nights, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
So remember next weekend, Saturday the twenty first.

Speaker 4 (01:30:45):
Eight pm Eastern Standard time, eight.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
Pm Eastern time, we're going to have Paranormal Paul from
Paranormal among Us podcast he's a great guy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
I really enjoyed talking to him.

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
Yeah. We met him at the big Foot the festival
over and over in Townsend, Tennessee, and I had a
had a really good time, so we enjoyed it. Yeah,

(01:31:18):
thank you, baby girl, Thank you Cindy. Yeah, we didn't
get to get her to ask. I know that's next time,
we promised Cindy. Yes, absolutely, Well we'll let you go
and we'll be back Thursday with a little hour long show. Yeah,

(01:31:39):
we'll do something on Thursday. We'll figure out what it is.
It's it's funny though, that too of our past shows
showed up in tonight's show.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
Yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
Yeah, and one of them was just Thursday show.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
Maybe that was getting us ready. I think it was,
I really did.

Speaker 4 (01:31:57):
I think it was the universe saying, yeah, you need
this information because it's going to carry over into this conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Yeah, it's a good conversation. She really really positive person. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
Yeah, we'll have to get into some some other stuff
with her next time.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:32:18):
Thanks everybody, And if you remember, you could find us
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Saturdays from eight to ten. Remember also on Saturday from

(01:32:38):
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you catch us at w DJYFM. That's ninety nine point
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listen at wdjyffilm dot com, where you go to paranormafore
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(01:33:01):
We do have a book out, Yeah, Tennessee Hauntings and
Laura Edition two, that is East Tennessee Hauntings and Laura
Edition two. It is available on Amazon or at paranormafore
one one dot org. Join us, Yeah, and join us,
and we'll see you guys Thursday. And remember I was

(01:33:25):
wanting to say this real quick, okay. Also on Paranorma
four one one dot or a lot of our Thursday
shows we put into blogs. Oh yeah, so you could
go read a lot of our Thursday shows. They're very interesting.
Oh yeah, have a good night, have a good weekend,

(01:33:47):
and we will see you next week.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
See you on Thursday.

Speaker 4 (01:33:57):
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secrets the night hides, what strange phenomena might be happening
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