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June 5, 2025 101 mins
They're everywhere. In your peripheral vision. In the darkest corners of your room. The Dark Ones – an elusive, terrifying phenomenon reported by millions. These shadowy figures, blacker than night, move with an unsettling intelligence, leaving behind a trail of fear and unanswered questions. This groundbreaking series uncovers the shocking history and chilling modern encounters with these mysterious entities. Are they ghosts trapped in a nightmare? Demonic presences feeding on fear? Or an entirely new species of being from beyond our comprehension?
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
C van through the midnight haze.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
He's the shadows in the darkest maze. Foot step second
in the empty hall. Mysteries weading no big footstepping through

(00:33):
the pas Alien send the secret sience e VP's in
the dead of night. Ghost is in in the pill light.
Don't know before what we bring it to your truth
behind the fail got.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Of it's oh rap, strange.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
The crazy and weird. Yes, what's up? Everybody?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Are y'all doing?

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Uh? How is all of you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
All of y'all, all of y'all?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Oh, we got one. We got.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Tonight. We've got a good show. We're gonna be talking
about some shadow people. It's Christina, Thank you for joining us. Christina.
What's up? What's up? Christina? M hm. So we're gonna
be talking about some shadow people, Yes, sir, We've even
got some videos to show you.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Only Oscars, good evening, Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Only Oscars. How you doing. We got some videos we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Show we do so we're going to explore, uh, some
of the reported characteristics of the shadow figures. We're going
to dive into the various paranormal theories and we might
just try to explain their existence.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Mm hmmm. That is amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
So, uh, we might discuss some steps people take when
confronted with these chilling apparitions. You never know, well you
think we should do?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
My wife has seen one before.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Doing good finished, my water changes ready to be entertained. Well,
we got about six videos that we're going.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
To show, Yes, we scoured.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Five of them is on shadows, and I think the
sixth one is just a very weird creature.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, yep, yep. My wife has actually seen the hat man.
She woke up to him standing over the top of
her before.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I've seen the hat man. I don't know if he
was the real hat man. It might have been my
affigment of my made Michelle. But when I was younger.
I've told the story before on here, but probably about
seven six seven, woke up and my bed was like

(03:06):
I could see the hall from the side view and
there it was a hat man looked like he was
flipping a coin. It reminded me of that bugsy lights

(03:26):
old law. So we do want to thank everybody.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Shadows aloud only says I leave my guts on met lights.
Lights on lights. Oh okay, So shadow figures they're captivating.
We know this and often terrifying. A lot of people
are scared of these things when I really don't think

(03:53):
they intend to hurt anybody. We had Mike Rick sector
on the show how many times two three couple. The
first time was about just the shadow Man pretty much
shadow figures, and he had a thing that happened to
him when he was younger. But he really really believes

(04:19):
that they are not evil or dark. He thinks that
they're kind of misunderstood.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, I think I agree with him to some point.
But they may be some out there that that's mischievous.
But at a lot of times when people see these things,
they're just curious. They're just looking and standing there just watching.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
It's some of it seems like, I mean, it's usually
something that you see out of the corner of your eye.
You rarely ever see him straight on. And the times
that they usually are is like when you're sleeping and
you wake up and there over top of you or
right beside the bed.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
No, that.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Is usually about the only times that they're not that
they're in your straight purview. They're not on the sides
or you know, and.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
That's about the only time they actually physically mess with you.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Yeah, So These entities are often described as humanoid silhouettes
made of just pure darkness.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
You can't see through them or anything.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Right now, a lot of people say that they're darker
than the dark.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
So psychology and paranormal belief is their nature and lack
of discernible features contribute to their mystery, leaving witnesses to
grapple with the unsetting question of their true order and purpose.

(06:04):
So I mean myself, I don't think. I think ninety
nine percent are just curious entities.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, we're going to talk about some things later that
maybe some other possibilities. Yeah, when we get into other possibilities.
But it is, it is most of the time when
the stories are told by people who've seen them.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
As far as I know, I have never seen a
shadow entity. But most of the time when they're seen,
they are seen hiding in a corner, you know, like
it's just in a corner and you only see it
on the you know, when you're looking out the side
of your eye and then all of a sudden you
turn it. It's calm boof Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Then you're left going did you see that?

Speaker 1 (06:58):
What was sure?

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Now I've seen something the last two nights in my bedroom.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Now have you been by yourself?

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Uh, well, I've had the kids. So my wife is
taking care of her dad. She's sick. So if y'all
can just say a prayer keep him in your thoughts,
it'd be great. He's a real good guy. But I've
seen a couple of things from my dresser to the

(07:27):
door just zoom, zoom, zoom. I think I figured it
out last night. It's a rat because I found a
dead rat where my cat had got it.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Well, that's a different type of shadow interview, you know.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
That could explain some some people's seeing these things. It
could be a little rat, yeah, or a big rat.
Is it rats? Fast?

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah? They are, David, tell us what they look like?
M Well, there are dark silhouettes. Usually the most striking
and consistent characteristics of shadow figures is their appearance as dark. Often,

(08:17):
I'm getting a call from New York. Wow, Well, do
you think that's a caller? I don't think so. It's
probably one of those nine million other calls.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
It's at network. It wants us on their network.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, that's it in New York.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Want to sign a contract for millions?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, let's put it out in the universe. That's all right.
Now they're silhouettes. Now, Unlike traditional ghosts or apparitions, which
might appear translucent or misty white, or even as fully
formed human figures, shadow figures are depicted as an absence
of light, a void that seems to absorb all a

(08:59):
little nation around them. Now, this profound darkness makes them
stand out against any background, creating a stark, unsettling contrast.
And that is what a lot of people say, you know.
They describe it as a darkness that's blacker than black.
They suggest that it is not merely a trick of
the eye or a patch of normal shadow. Instead, it

(09:22):
seems to possess an active, almost tangible quality, as if
it's a living entity composed entirely of obscurity. Now, this
deep hue contributes significantly to the sense of dread and
unease that often accompanies an encounter, as the mind struggles

(09:43):
to reconcile a moving, intentional form with something that may
merely be an absence of light. And I can see it,
I mean, I could see a lot of people getting
being afraid do something like that, you know, I mean
it's dark. Well, your mind already plays tricks on you

(10:05):
when it stark anyway, because from millions of years, our
brains have tried to make sure that we're not going
to get attacked. Something the ain't going to jump out
and get us in the middle of the night. And
so you know, this is where we become acutely aware

(10:27):
that we are not the apex predators, especially at night time.
And so what that ends up doing is causing your
brain to go into this mode where it's trying to
always work and trying to find something that might be
coming for it. So I can understand it goes back

(10:47):
to a fight or flight, you know mentality, Sure do.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
So I'm also show the first video just we're gonna
break these deos up. Show one here and one there,
and I want to show the first one. I'll play
it two or three times because it is a quick video,
and let me add it up here so there you

(11:18):
see it, and I'll play it again because it went
pretty quick. And this is weird.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Now we was sitting here looking at these things for hours.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
I mean, what would you what would that be? It
couldn't be a shadow from above. It's die time, you guys.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I don't know, I don't know. I mean, that's why
we played it because it's one of these things that's unexplainable,
you know. Yeah, I mean, trust me, we saw some
that word just there's no way, no way, no way.

(12:08):
One of them, I swear was a person with the
sock on their hand.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, it was funny.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, you know, trying to pass it off as a shadow.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
These are ones we thought that wasn't fake. So yeah, yeah,
that's pretty wild.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
That's that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
You see how it passes in front of this tree too.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Let me tell you what's funny to me though, there's
the videos that we that my wife's sending me from
a person she knows that ORB video.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Is that not similar to that except for it's a wider,
translucent ORB versus dark thing going across.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, that we're going have to show that video when
we talk about orbs or something. But that's wild. Yeah,
well even you even see it leaving the same way.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yes, so it comes in to a window and then
it goes out of a window back out. So but
you know, we're not talking about that. But I mean
when it comes to orbs, I'm yeah, very skeptical. There's
not very many orbs that I'm like, Yeah, I believe
in that.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
A lot a lot of them. It's just dust or
a bug.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Dust or a bug, I think ninety percent or better
as a dust in a bug. Jason is very popular tonight.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
I am blowing.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
So. The intensity of the darkness can vary too, I mean,
with some accounts suggesting they're solid, unimpenetrable. Others describe them
as swirling or smoky, which I think that would be
a dark mist.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, I think that would almost go back into the
apparition side myself.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah. But regardless of the texture of this thing, the
core visual element remains the same. It's a human shaped outline.
It's crafted from the deep as possible shade, and the
characteristics make them incredibly difficult to distinguish. So that adds

(14:17):
a lot of questions to these things and their nature. Right, So,
this fundamental visual attribute is what gives them their name
though shadow figures or shadow people. Now, it immediately sets
them apart from other reported paranormal entities and anchors their
identity in the realm of an optical mystery. And the

(14:43):
perceived density of their darkness is a key factor and
why many believe that they're not just simple illusions but
rather something with a tangible, supernatural presence. And I think
when you.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Could see something for sure, see something and then when
you go to look at it, it disappears or you
could see it off. Yeah, that's definitely something.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, especially some of these videos are pretty wild. Yeah right,
maybe not the next one I'm gonna play, but the
one after that is pretty wild.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
We we looked and looked and looked and looked and looked,
and finally found some pretty decent ones.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
So you want to go ahead.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
The uh, persistence of these blacker than black forms across
the diverse cultures and individual experiences kind of suggests that
there's a shared underlying phenomenon now, whether it's psychological or paranormal. Now,
the uncanny ability of these figures to appear as solidified

(16:03):
darkness remains one of the most compelling and terrifying aspects
of their alleged manifestations. So beyond their profound darkness, most
shadow figures are almost universally described as being entirely featureless.
So they have the lack of eyes, no mouth, no nose,

(16:24):
any facial characteristics that would allow for recognition or any
kind of connection. Now, this absence of detail, which is
a significant part of what makes them so unsettling and inhuman.
And I think that goes back to you know, that
part of us that is always searching for something that's

(16:48):
going to try to eat us or get us in
the dark. But when you see this figure but you
can't make out features, Oh, yes, it's a human. What
may not be bad, you know, right, makes that fight
or flight really kick in better?

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Possibly, Yeah, And some of these shadows that people see
are not human figures there, maybe like blobs. I've seen
some claim that they're like creatures with big old legs
and arms and things like that. And we're going to
get into that too, because that brings us to another

(17:29):
point of where they might be coming from. Yeah, but
we'll wait, we won't.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Jump the gun yet. Now, the lack of features means
that there's no expression to read, no hint of emotion
or intent. Now, this blackness can be far more terrifying
than a grotesque face, as it leaves the witness with
no clues about the entity's nature or purpose, which fosters

(17:56):
a profound sense of the unknown and unimaginable. Now, this
thing is perceived as a void that stares back, rather
than an individual so it's just this black hole in
a person shape. Even beyond facial features, accounts rarely mentioned clothing, hair,

(18:21):
or any other distinguishing marks, which we will get into
that a little bit later. Like they had man, they
are simply a silhouette, an outline of a humanfoid form,
devoid of any intricate detail. Now, this simplicity adds to
their unsettling quality, as the human mind instinctively searches for

(18:44):
patterns and identifiable characteristics, only to find none. Let me
think about that, Jason, Yeah, I mean that's what everybody
sees now. This featureless quality distinguishes them from traditional ghosts,

(19:05):
where apparitions might be recognized as specific individuals or war
period clothing. Shadow figures defy such category categoration. I can't
say that word categoration, category cat tgorization, categorization. Yeah, I

(19:26):
just had to slow down. I guess, existing as pure,
unadorned forms of darkness, which makes them seem more elemental
and less tied to individual human identity. Now, the consistent
reports reinforce the idea that they are not merely misidentified

(19:46):
people or objects, and the uniformity in their description across
countless anecdotal accounts underscores the unique and perplexing nature of
how shadow figure phenomenon contributes to its enduring presence in
the paranormal discourse. Now we're going to go into some types, right, Yeah,

(20:13):
I'm gonna take it off over here, take it off
what I'm going to take this for sure?

Speaker 3 (20:24):
So humanoid shapes, which a lot of them are humanoid.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yes, I think the far vast majority of them are humanoid.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
You know, they vary in specific details. Shadow figures are
predominantly described as possessing a human like shape. Yes, So
this fundamental form typically resembles a standing person. It's what
allows them to be categorized as people or figures. It's

(21:01):
where you get shadow people or shadow figures. Even in
their stark, featureless state, they still look like a humanoid.
So this basic humanoid outline can range from a person
shaped mass to a distinct tall, slender figure. The consistency

(21:25):
is this general form suggests that whatever they are, they
interact with our perception in a way that aligns with
the most common sentiment sentient shape known to us.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Which is a human human Right makes sense.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Now, Sometimes witnesses report additional characteristics that reinforce the humanoid impression,
such as a faint outline of a head towards soul
and limbs. So these details are rarely sharp or defined,
but are they They're enough for the observer to recognize

(22:02):
bipedal upright form. The humanoid shape is a key element
in invoking fear, and it suggests an intelligent, sentient presence.
If they were more blobs or indistinct masses, they might
be less alarming. However, their resemblance to a person, coupled

(22:26):
with their dark and featureless nature, creates a like a
paradox that deeply disturbs a lot of people that encounter them.
So this perceived human form, combined with their non human attributes,
leads to many of the theories surrounding them. Are they

(22:47):
distorted human spirits or perhaps entities mimicking human form? The
fundamental humanoid shape remains a central aspect of a shadow figure. Right,
so humanoid.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
And like I said, that's the majority of them are
Hey Mike, Hey you done, Budy. Oh you've seen shadow
people before? Huh Now that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, plenty of shadow people. Yeah, that would be I've
seen one which may have been a cartoon or something,
But I have not.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
As far as I ever remember ever seeing a shadow person.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Let me go ahead and show my wife as show
the second video, the next video, Yeah, let me show it.
And all of a sudden, so you'll have to look
in the the there right corner fence.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
You can move along.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah, h yeah, we'll play it again. So watch the
watch this area right here, and we'll we'd like to

(24:20):
get the security camera, security cameras there goes. It looks
like it comes through the fence out in here.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah. What's crazy is that it does look like it's
almost running.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, the famous.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Like shadow people on the side of the road driving
at night. I think do you feel that they're following you?

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
One was an interesting one.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
One more time we'll all now.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, funny.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
So that's pretty wild.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, that's that was pretty cool. Now we're about to
start talk about that.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
While many shadow figures are reported as being roughly human sized,
there are accounts that describe notable variation in their perceived dimensions. Now,
some witnesses describe seeing child size shadows. It's kind of
like what we just showed, darting quickly or lurking low
to the ground, adding, you know, a very eerie part

(25:50):
to that encounter, because I could see that that would
be eerie if you had something low crawling like to
you or something you know.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Now, there are numerous reports of much color figures. Now.
These are sometimes described as unnaturally tall or elongated, towering
over the observer. Now, these larger forms can be intimidating,
which makes people feel overwhelmed at the presence and the

(26:18):
power that dwarfs the witnesses. The size and variation can
also apply to their perceived bulk. Some shadow figures are
described as very thin and wispy, almost two dimensional, while
others are reported as being more substantial, like a black
mass that carries significant weight or density, which further enhances

(26:41):
the feelings of a physical presence low truth, hey truth.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
Now.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
This variability in size, despite the consistent dark silhouette and
the featureless descriptions, adds to another layer of mystery. It
raises questions about whether these are distinct entities or if
the perceived size is the influenced by factors like the
observer state of mind, the environmental conditions, or the entities

(27:12):
ability to manipulate its appearance and its form.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, which is all possible.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Now, Regardless of the exact size, the deviation from typical
human proportions, whether smaller or significantly larger, often intensifies how
people perceive it as unsettling. This does challenge what the
observer's senses of normalcy and contributes to the feeling that

(27:45):
they are witnessing something truly extraordinary and possibly dangerous.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Truth says it can share. I can share my supernatural
experience with shadow people. Really, we could do that. I
mean I could. I could send him an invite and
he could come on and tell us what it was.
If I had your email, I'd send you a link

(28:12):
to the show and you could come on.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Or we could we could open up the phone lines.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Real, we could open up a phone line if you'd
be which everyone's best for you?

Speaker 1 (28:22):
You tell me I could. While you're doing that, I'll
just go ahead.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
And did you finish the size?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Okay. So now we're going to talk about peripheral vision.
That's the hallmark of many many encounters, and it's their
tendency to be observed primarily in your peripheral vision. So

(28:55):
this means that they're often glimpsed out of the corner
of the eye, only to vanish or dissolve when the
dissolve when the observer directly turns their head to look
at him.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
I'm I wanna log in real quick. Okay, does anybody
want to call in and tell us their stories? Because
if so, I'll or call in because if so, I'll
i'll uh, I'll go ahead and start the get the
board up, go ahead, jays, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
So this elusive nature contributes significantly, significantly to the m
big ambiguity, ambiguity, excuse me any doubt surrounding these sightings. Yeah,
truth wants to talk.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Oh, but you will write your story here. Okay, that's fine.
Oh you don't want to call in. I can put
it up on the screen when you get it done.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Okay, So maybe we won't do the call in.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yeah. So it's easy to dismiss such a glimpse as
a trick of the light, or an optical illusion, or
simply your overactive imagination, which you know, especially you know

(30:19):
when the figure disappears upon you directly looking at it.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Right.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
So, However, the consistency of this peripheral phenomena across numerous
independent accounts suggests that it might be a genuine characteristic
of how these things manifest or how the human brain
processes the anomaly. It could imply they exist on a

(30:52):
different frequency or a different plane only briefly intersecting with
our vision. Will feel right, That makes sense. So for
those who believe they're truly seeing a paranormal entity, the
peripheral nature can be frustrating as it prevents a clear,

(31:13):
sustained observation. Yet it also adds the terror feeling, a
feeling of being watched by something, and it's intentional way
that it avoids direct confrontation can be really disturbing. So

(31:34):
I say that you know, a lot of experiences begin
in the peripheral Some report seeing shadow figures directly and clearly,
which I have a video of that. This variation leads
to speculation that perhaps the peripheral sightings are weaker manifestations,

(31:57):
or that the more powerful entities are capable of sustaining
a direct appearance. So the common thread, however, remains the
awareness of a presence that is just beyond our grasp
and beyond our clear sight.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
That makes sense. Yeah, so truth brot four click on it.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, put it up here.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Woke up at night to use the bathroom, seeing a
shadow figure was a woman's shadow sitting on my bed.
The shadow was not moving, not harmful.

Speaker 5 (32:39):
You know.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
And that's a lot of people feel, and that's what
we're kind of talking about, is that they feel that
these things are terrible because there's just no discernible features
to them. But at the same time, there's quite a
few people that believe that there just observing.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Watchers, just watching. Yeah, it says, I did not feel
any fear. I went back to I went to the bathroom.
When I come back to the shadow, it will vanish. Yeah,
that's common. Yeah, common shadow sighting right there.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Absolutely, that's so pretty neat. Though I've never had a
shadow persons.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah, I've never had a real person looking thing except that,
you know, it looked like a cartoon to me, but
maybe I did. Only Oscar says that's how I see
people on the fringe, mostly just a glimpse.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Now only oscars.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Is that like they're not solid?

Speaker 1 (33:55):
When when you see people, is that you seeing like
shadow people? Where is that you actually seeing like ghosts?
Kind of like how I do? I don't ever see
all of them like on the sides or actually always
see them straight on. But that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Not a shadow color?

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, m yeah, it was like last time I saw
the one was when we was down at the battlefield.
You know, black shadow, so yours Truth was a black shadow.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah. I think I think there's a big difference in
just a regular ghostly figure and a shadow entity because
of the color and the way it interacts.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah, Truth, I don't think that they are ghosting.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, I don't think their ghost I don't think they're
from Well, we'll get into that what I think they're
from here in just a minute. So I'm gonna show
you this other video. Now this is not out of
anybody's peripheral vision.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Oh yeah, this one is pretty crazy. Someone was filming
something different dimension ha huh. Yeah, we'll get into that
here in a little bit.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yeah. Now this next video is pretty pretty interesting because
it's straight on. I'm wonna go ahead and added.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Ones or something.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah. Yeah, it ran run all the way across that
that porch. Oh, thank you Truth. One more time, Okay,

(36:03):
one more zoom it goes well, yeah, it looks like
it's still over here on the other part.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, it runs all the way across. Wow, it doesn't
look like maybe it's four foot tall. Maybe yeah, and
I guess that's relative because we can't really tell how
you know, tall that is.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
But well it was about middle window, so maybe been
six but could be.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Maybe maybe, I don't know, but it's it was an
interesting that's why we had to we had to pick it. Now,
something that's pretty rare that people see with shadow figures
or glowing eyes. Most shadow figures are described as entirely featureless. Now,

(36:55):
disturbing and less common characteristic that is reported by some
witnesses are the presence of glowing eyes. Now, these eyes
are almost always described as red. They burn intensely within
the dark void of the figure's head. Now, the emergence
of these glowing red eyes transforms the unsettling anomity anomaly

(37:20):
into featureless silhouettes into something actively menacing and predatory. And
I could see, you know, red is usually one of
those colors, right that's set people off, as you know, bad, terrible,
evil eyes are often considered the windows to the soul,

(37:45):
and the presence of such stark, fiery points of light
suggest a malevolent intelligence observing the witnesses. Now, this specific
detail is particularly impactful because it adds a folk point
to the otherwise blank form, which makes the encounter feel

(38:06):
more personal and more terrifying. Now, the glowing red color
often evokes association with evil, anger, demonic entities, and in
various mythologies and belief systems, it amplifies their fears. Encounters

(38:28):
involving glowing red eyes are frequently cited as being more
intense and frightening than those without. Sometimes these are accompanied
by feelings of immense dread, coldness, or even physical pressure.
The direct stare from these unblinking points of light can
create a profound sense of being targeted or watched. Our

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watchers and note takers see I believe that a lot.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah, Ellen's Elena, which she's going to be on our
show in a couple of weeks, So I can't wait
for that. I want to thank you for listening tonight.
The majority are watchers and note takers for the DS,
some are residual energies and other dimensions we might catch

(39:22):
a glimpse of. They are not ghosts of those who
have passed.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I don't think they are any I don't, I really don't. Yeah. Now.
While a rare addition to the standard shadow figure description,
this report of glowing red eyes adds a powerful and
chilling dimension to this phenomenon, and it kind of reinforces
the belief among some that these entities are not benign

(39:50):
but rather inherently negative or even demonic in nature. Which
living in the Bible Belt like we do, wo, I
can see from particular points of view and from the

(40:11):
way people were raised in their belief systems, how they
take things and try to rationalize them in certain ways.
Because when things happen to you that you can't understand
or you don't understand, the first thing that your mind

(40:33):
tries to do is start rationalizing it. What is it?
What could it be? Is it here to kill me?
Is it here to whatever? Right it's it's it's constantly rationalizing.
And something irrational happened to my mom, my mom, my
wife a little over a year ago, maybe closer to
two years ago, and you know, it really scared her

(40:56):
pretty bad. And I had to convince her that you
are going to drive yourself insane by trying to rationalize
the irrational. You cannot rationalize the irrational. And I told her,
I said, I understand where you're coming from, because when
I was three and I started seeing spirits, it scared

(41:19):
me to death because all of a sudden, these people
were standing in my room that weren't supposed to be there.
And yes, I've had a lifetime of coming to grips
with this and understanding a little bit more. And it's
hard when your eyes are just forced open all of
a sudden and you hear you see something that you've
never it's never witnessed to you before, you've never had

(41:40):
it happen, and your mind starts trying to rationalize this stuff.
And so you're going to stick it in whatever boxes
you can fit it in, whether it's religion or whatever.
You're going to try to stick it into a box.
So then it rationalizes it in your head. So now
you're not going crazy.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Yeah, I think exactly, especially here in the Bible belt.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
And so that's where you get these demons. Everything's demons
and all.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
If it's if people seeing something like a real bright
white light, they're not going to say that, oh that's terrible,
that's bad, right, it's going to be angelic or you know,
something like that. But if it's dark colored and you
don't really I know this for a fact that down

(42:36):
South it's a lot different. You get basically brainwashed when
you're young, and maybe all things black aren't dark.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
You know, i'd a good guy in a Western can
also wear black, right, he doesn't always have to wear white.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
It don't have to be a bright white light. It
could be a dark shadowy figure.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Right.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
You never know who's to say just because it's black,
it's not bad, right.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yeah, that's just from a Southerner's point of view.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
But hat man might be a little different.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
This one really freaks a lot of people out. Yeah,
this is the one that my wife has witnessed.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
That's wild. It's the same eye witness it too. But
it was a short, fat little man flipping a coin,
but he had a hat on. That was a black shadow.
Among the various types of shadow figures.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
I'm the same as you, only oscars in most ways.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Yeah, various types of shadow figures reported, One specific archetype
has gained significan and recognition, which is the hat man.
Right now, This particular entity shares the general characteristics of

(44:07):
a shadow person, but is uniquely distinguished by the presence
of a wide brimmed hat, often described as a fedora
or a similar style, and maybe sometimes a trench coat.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yep, yep. I remember the first time I ever heard
about the hat Man, and it was on Art beel
Hartbell many moons ago, probably over twenty years ago, I
would say, And he had this guy that was a

(44:41):
native Well he heard about it on a Nike and
Open Lines or something like that, and then he tried
to get someone to come in to talk about the
shadow figures and hat band and all that stuff. And
he got this Native American guy that came on the show.
His name was David. It's funny, but he's at there

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and kind of laid the groundwork.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Yeah for it.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
It's it's it's interesting.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Elena says, energy is energy, but all energy can be
used for positive or negative?

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Right, absolutely? Yeah, I mean that's I mean it's like
people calling a wigiboard evil. Wigia board is a tool.
Could it be used for evil?

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Could it be used for good? Sure?

Speaker 3 (45:27):
It just depends on just a tool though how you
use it? Yes? Right, But the hat Man is a
prominent figure, oh, with consistent descriptions emerging from a lot
of individuals who have experienced encounters. His distinct attire gives
him a slightly more defined and recognizable form compared to

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the completely featureless shadow figures. So it makes him more
specific and more unsettling due to this human like detail
on an otherwise inhumanity.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
So, this particular shadow figure is frequently associated with experiences
of sleep paralysis. Right now, many individuals who report seeing
the hat Man describe waking up paralyzed and unable to
move or speak, only to see this dark hatted figure

(46:33):
looming over them and standing in their room. Now, Truth says,
when I was atheist, I did not believe in demons
or aliens. That's why I have been attacked by dark evil.
I was suffering from sleep paralysis when I was ten
years old, and that's when I become a believer. That's why.

(47:03):
So the connection to sleep paralysis suggests a potential link
to altered states of consciousness, or just a specific neurological
phenomena that occurs. So the consistent imagery of the hat Man,
despite originating from independent reports, has led some to speculate

(47:26):
about its nature. It is a specific type of entity,
a collective unconscious archetype, or a common hallucination triggered by
certain conditions.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
It's reoccurring appearance hallucination points to something more than random
visual distortions. So for those of you who have encountered him,
the hat man is often described as a radiating, as
radiating and oppressive or malevolent presence. Even without the discernible

(48:04):
facial features, the simple addition of the hat creates a
distinct a distinct image in your memory. H. C. Mening
Seamening his place as one of the most recognizable and
most feared types of shadow figures and in paranormal Yep,

(48:28):
so that's that's wild too.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
There are forces that use energy from the various purposes.
It was only askers I've been so scared.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Only Oscar says, I've been so scared I could not
move or even think to move.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Mm Hmma's journey say.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
She agrees with what Truth said that there are forces
in the universe that use energy for nefarious purposes. Yeah,
I do believe that too, true, says Oscars. Yes, I
can't move, I can't breathe, I can't scream. I see
only darkness and heaviness over my chest. You remember Mike

(49:24):
direcsecer story, Can you tell it?

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yep? He was a young boy and he went to sleep.
He woke up because he did it to go use
the bathroom something. I forget exactly why he woke up,
but he woke up, but he couldn't move, and the
shadow figure was in his room, and for some reason

(49:52):
it came up to him while he was in this
state of not being able to move, this paralysis state,
crossed his arms, actually took him and crossed his arms
in this position right here. And he says he didn't
feel that it was malevolent, that it almost was doing

(50:17):
it like he was thinking he was dead and crossing
his arms over and stuff for him. But after that happened,
he started screaming. The entity left through the door down
the hall, and then his parents came running in.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah, that's a wild story. Yeah, especially when it actually
physically crosses your arms.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
It picked his arms up and crossed them, which is interesting.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Oh. Atlena says her ex husband used to get scratched
too with sleep paralysis.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Sleep paralysis is a near dead experience.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Now, that's interesting. That is very interesting. So there's some
common theories and interpretations that we're going to go over
on the shadow people, that they're ghost and spirits. I
don't believe that myself, but now one of the most

(51:29):
straightforward and common theories in most paranormal circles is that
shadow figures are a type of ghost or a spirit. Now,
this interpretation suggests that they are a residual energy or
consciousness of deceased individuals which are unable or unwilling to
fully manifest in a more recognizable form excuse me. Unlike

(51:53):
traditional ghost sightings that often involve transparent, misty white apparitions,
are distinct in their profound darkness. Now. This difference leads
to speculation that if they are indeed spirits, they might
be those trapped in a lower vibrational state, perhaps unable

(52:14):
to gather enough energy or light to appear fully. Now.
This theory posits that the darkness of a shadow figure
might symbolize a spirit that is lost, confused, or even
emotionally heavy they're unable to move on to a perceived light.
They could be the souls of the departed who lacked

(52:36):
in this necessary spiritual energy or understanding to fully manifest
as they once were, leaving only their dark outlines visible. Now.
Proponents of this view might suggest that the fleeting and
peripheral nature of many sightings reflects the spirit's struggle to

(52:57):
interact with the physical world. Or the limited ability to
sustain a manifestation. Now, the lack of discernible features could
also be explained by this energy leaving only the basic
human form. So it's an energy depletion that only leaves

(53:17):
this a basic human form. Now why distinct from classic
ghost encounters, the ghost theory remains a significant interpretation within
the paranormal community. This offers a familiar framework for understanding
these entities. Now it suggests that shadow figures are simply

(53:39):
another manifestation of post mortal existence, albeit one that is
darker and more elusive than others. Yeah, I don't fall
into that category. Yeah, I mean, could it happen? Maybe?
But does that account for the vast majority? I don't

(53:59):
think so. No, Yeah, I don't believe so.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Oscar says she's had and Elena has said they've had
near death experiences.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
That's interesting. I've never had that. Yes, only oscars. You
can do you want to call? Or do you want
to say in text?

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Yeah? Go ahead and tell us. So I'm gonna play
another video.

Speaker 6 (54:37):
Just to have other classic but very creepy clip that
has circulated the Internet for years and still creeps me out.
It shows two hospital workers from Mexico fooling around during
their night shift when one of them notices something odd.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Cana movies.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
That is not writing. Gen see that.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
It goes.

Speaker 6 (55:16):
No moment, a fast moving shadowing door from left to right,
and then the trolley moves by itself as he goes
to check. You see it as a closed off theater
and there is nowhere a person could have gone.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Very strange. But is it paranormal? What do you think
to stop until next time?

Speaker 1 (55:42):
It was definitely done on purpose because he looks like
you look walk straight in, you know, like there wasn't
a cut in it or nothing, you know.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Mm hmm, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
So only Oscar says. I was driving on a windy
road late at night, just my son and myself. We
were returning home and a car passed by us going
too fast. I could see the car lights as we
made the turns.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
I think she's still typing yep.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
To be continued. She's going to continue tapping, And so
you're gonna talk about the demonic entities. One on one turn,
the lights were not moving. The car was upside down.

Speaker 6 (56:46):
M m.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Wow. So the car flipped. That's interesting. Now I don't
want to talk about scary. That would be scary. Yeah,
I can handle paranormal all the time. In fact, we're
wanting to buy a house that's haunted. But that that's scary,

(57:12):
you know, that's scary.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
On one turn of the lights, we're not moving. The
car was upside down. Yeah. So another theory about these
shadow figures is their demonic entities, which a lot of
people say that yep, that's a far more unsettling and

(57:36):
terrifying interpretation, that these figures are not human spirits but
rather demonic entities or other inherently malevolent forces. So this
theory often arises when encounters are accompanied by intense feelings

(57:57):
of dread, oppression, and fear, or when physical interactions like
pushing or choking are reported.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Man, that's terrible, and Oscar says, it was in my lane.
So how our cars swerved together lane, but it was
not done by me. My son reached over and turned
the radio off. He looked at me and said, wow.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Mm hmm. Yeah, that is crazy.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
That's that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
So those who subscribe to this view of demonic entities
often believe that the dark, featureless nature of a shadow
figure is a deliberate tactic by demonic forces. This an
an enemy, an an enemy, and amidity can be more frightened?

Speaker 7 (59:04):
Is that amity? Anonymity that happened to anonymous? That happened
to Nemo too, and a minimimity. Uh, they could be
more frightening than a recognizable face, allowing the entity to

(59:27):
instill a maximum terror without revealing its true form.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
And it feeds off that fear, it generates an amenity.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Yeah, this sucks, yes.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
That you know that same thing happened to Nemo. In
and finding Nemo. He couldn't say animum, amenity and amenity.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Someone was turning the wheel. I was in shock, staring
at the wheel spinning.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Now that's a wild story. That is, that's a good story.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
So these consistent reports of radiating negativity, cold spots, or
a sense of evil during a shadow figure encounter often
cited as evidence for a demonic origin. Unlike potentially benign
or confused human spirits, these entities are seen as intentional, malevolent,

(01:00:33):
seeking to cause distress and feed on human fear. I
believe it could be one of those those things sometimes,
I mean not all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Blood Ali is that because there's so many wrecks, there
only oscars. I do think that there's things out there
that feed on that fear and energies and things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Yeah, you know. Even some demonologists suggest that a demon
might choose to appear as a shadow person because it's
less identifiable and can more effectively destabilize individuals. So the
occasional report of glowing red eyes that further bolsters the theory,

(01:01:24):
as red eyes are often associated with malevolent entities and
religious and folkloric traditions. So if shadow figures are indeed demonic,
their purpose would be just to terrorize and torment and
potentially influence the living.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
The jin.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Yeah. So this interpretation often leads to spiritual warfare such
as prayers, exorcisms, or invoking divine protection, emphasizing the serious
and dangerous nature of these encounters for believers.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Yep, wow, yep, only oscars. That's definitely something to have
went through.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
So there's another intriguing theory. This is the one I
like Jason's favorite. It blends paranormal beliefs with some concepts
from theoretical physics.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
So hey James, Hey, James personally think it's CNS CNS.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Elaborate for us, So.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Paranormal beliefs with concepts from theoretical physics is that shadow
figures are interdimensional beings. This hypothesis suggests that they are
inhabitants of parallel dimensions or alternative realities that occasionally overlap
with our own, which makes them briefly visible. Now. The

(01:03:30):
idea here is that are diminishing and theirs are not
perfectly aligned, and under certain conditions such as fluctuations and
energy or specific environmental factors, entities from one realm can
briefly bleed through to another. Now. This may explain they're

(01:03:52):
fleeting and shimmering or peripheral appearances, as they are not
fully present in our reality. Okay now. Proponents of this
theory often point to the fact that shadow figures do
not seem to interact with our physical laws in a
conventional way. They move through walls, they appear and disappear instantaneously,

(01:04:17):
and often seem unaware of human presence unless directly observed. Now,
this behavior could be consistent with beings operating from a
different spatal or temporal framework, So from another dimension, it's
another dimension, another dimension demention. This perspective offers a broad

(01:04:42):
explanation for why shadow figures are so diverse in appearance
and in their behaviors, they may not be a single
type of entity, but rather various beings from different dimensions,
each with their own characteristics and levels of interaction with
our world, only glimpses in their shadowy forms. So now

(01:05:04):
this interdimensional theory does resonate with those who seek a
more scientific or cosmological explanation for paranormal phenomenon, Moving beyond
traditional ghost stories, it opens up the possibility that the
universe is far more complex than we perceive, and with
shadow figures acting as a tantalizing glimpse into unseen realms,

(01:05:31):
that's possible. M spectrum, Yeah, could be outside our light spectrum.
Lana's Journey says, interdimensional various various, Yes, opens perspectives.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Yes, we do see very little, actually see stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Yeah, I mean our actual what we actually see is
is a very small amount of the light spectrum. Same
with our hearing too, we only hear a very small spectrum.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
So truth brought up something in a chat here talking
about the gin, yes and genies. So an ancient and
compelling theory about these shadow figures are particularly prominent in
the Middle Eastern In his exlomic tradition yep, So it

(01:06:36):
suggests that shadow figures are manifestations of the Gin. The
Gin are supernatural beings described as invisible to humans under
normal circumstances, made of smokeless fire, and capable of shape shifting. So,
according to this lore, the Gin exists alongside human inhabiting

(01:07:01):
abandoned places, deserts, and even homes. They are sentiment beings
with free will, capable of both good and evil acts,
and can interact with human worlds in various ways, including
appearing in different forms. So a lot of paranormal researchers,

(01:07:25):
one in particular, Rosemary Ellen Golly. She extensively studied shadow people,
and she concluded that many encounters could be attributed to
the Gin taking on a shadow form. She noted that

(01:07:45):
individuals reporting shadow being sightings often had other anomalous experiences,
suggesting a common underlying source. So the characteristics of the
Gin are their invisibility, their shape shifting abilities, and an

(01:08:10):
existence in a parallel realm. These line up remarkably well
with the elusive and dark nature of a shadow figure.
Their ancient origins and folklore provide a rich historical context
for what might otherwise seem like a modern phenomena, phenomena, phenomena, animodity.

(01:08:37):
So this theory offers a cultural and spiritual framework for
understanding shadow figures, and it suggests that they are not
simply random apparitions, but beings rooted in a long standing tradition.
It emphasizes that the idea that hidden entities share our
world and they occasionally manifest in ways that are both

(01:09:00):
terrifying and mysterious.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Only Oscar says they could be aliens. They could be.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
If only we knew the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Yes, so do you want to do another?

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Yeah, let me play another video?

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Two more left?

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Right, No, I think I already played that one. We
got one more left. This is the one with the creepy,
creepy figure.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Yeah, you know I've seen this one a few weeks
back on things on Facebook. Yes, but we found this
one on TikTok.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Yeah, I'm gonna play it. Watch it now. This one's weird.
I want to just climb up to the left.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Up to the left.

Speaker 8 (01:10:02):
Uh, go up up to the so go up to
the left.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
So how would you feel if you were investigating that
house and that happened to you and you was the
only people in there stairs.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
Just climb up to the left.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
You know, me, Jason, do you want to come up
the stairs? And three seconds, even if I thought this,
call in on me, We'll go up up to the
right there to the left.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
You know. They just don't seem to acknowledge somebody's down
the stairs seeing this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
See only Oscar says, I'd go after it. Uh, you
know for me? Chelle says O MG muh yeah, I
don't believe it. Could, I mean, can some entities in
some ways? Yeah, I mean I've been scratched and stuff,

(01:11:06):
but I don't know. I'm I would still chase effort.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
We got two more, two more?

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Oh look at that?

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
All right? So we got another shadow one and then
the crazy figure.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Okay, So now there's a less common but equally fascinating
theory that suggests that shadow figures could be manifestations of
astral projection. Now, this hypothesis posits that they're not independent entities,
but rather the consciousness or astral body of living individuals

(01:11:45):
who are experiencing an out of body experience or an
obe M.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
That makes sense, Yeah, I mean it's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Now in this view, someone might unknowingly project their astral
self into another location, which would make them appear as
a shadowy form to others. Now. Since the astral body
is often described as being made of subtle energy, it
might appear indistinct, dark, or translucent to those perceiving it

(01:12:17):
in the physical realm. This theory explains the fleeting and
often non interactive nature of some shadow figure sightings. If
the projected individual is unaware of their projection or is
not consciously controlling it, this astral form might simply drift
or observe, appearing as a passive shadowy presence that quickly disappears.

(01:12:45):
It also offers a potential explanation for why some shadow
figures seen benign or merely curious observers rather than overtly malevolent.
They are simply the unconscious business the manifestation of other
persons consciousness in an altered state, not an independent or

(01:13:07):
malicious entity. When the unscer says, when I have an
out of body experience, I wonder why I don't see
anyone else makes me laugh. Now. While challenging to prove
the astral projection theory, this provides an intriguing alternative to
traditional ghost or demon explanations. It links the phenomena to

(01:13:32):
the incredible capabilities of human consciousness, suggesting that what we purserve,
what we perceive as a shadow figure, might actually be
a glimpse of another person's journey just beyond their physical body.
That's wild, yeah, Schall says, I bet definitely could be that.

(01:13:55):
I think that's a possibility.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Yeah. When the auscer says, what, oh, yeah, scratch is
nothing but a metal.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
It's a medal. Yeah, I mean it did bother me.
I didn't jump up and run around and scream or anything.
I was like, oh, I got scratched. You remember when
that happened, didn't you? Wasn't that That was just before
you came over to my house and we did our
first investigation, was it not?

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
So I'm gonna briefly go over just a few, just
a few other theories that are, you know, explanations that
other people have that's non paranormal, right, So what I'm

(01:14:47):
not going to get real deep into it because times
of the essence, so a lot of non paranormal explanations
want to proof.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Yes. Well, I mean I've I've seen them only oscars
my whole life. So I felt like I've always had proof,
but that was definitely proof that they could reach out
and touch you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
And and when people say that they've got scratched, I
won't roll my you know, I don't roll my eyes
anymore since that happened. Go ahead, sorry, Jason.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
So sleep paralysis. During sleep paralysis, the brain is awake,
but the bodies it is naturally paralyzed, which prevents us
from acting out our dreams.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
They were definitely proof.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
This can lead to a terrifying experience where the individual
feels trapped in their own body, off in the company
by vivid and frightening hallucinations. So this is like the
scientific theories. So you got hallucinations from sleep paralysis. Certain

(01:16:01):
psychiatric conditions, schizophrenia and bipolar disorder can involve hallucinations too,
So paradoia yep, that's that's a psychological phenomenon where the
brain perceives patterns or images in random and most of

(01:16:27):
the time it's human. What you're seeing is like human
shadowy figures.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
That's why you see faces in clouds and bathroom tiles
while you're using a bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Yeah, I can sit in a bathroom and pick out
a lot of people. Yep, I haven't seen Para is
crazy Albert Einstein in a cloud once. I mean, that
looks just like that's funny. So you could have eye floaters.
You ever had floaters I have? It's wild. These little

(01:17:04):
black things, you know, just float across your eyes. So
that could be an optical illusion or something. Their tiny
specks or strands that drift across your field of vision,
and they're black. Most of them are mindware and especially

(01:17:25):
when you're looking at something bright.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
I do believe we're trapped in our bodies on the oscar.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Yes we are. So that's about all I'm gonna talk
about the non paranormal explanations of shadow figures. I'm gonna
show this video now. This is one uh with.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
The Myrtles Flansation. It is said to be the most
haunted plus in the world. We're here. We're going to
do a tour our tours at four thirty, but we're
just doing a regular tour of the plantation. The lady

(01:18:16):
did give us some pointers. We have most of you know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
So if you look in the field.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
To the right now when she first started talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Right when she first starts talking, you'll see something running
across the field.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
Here we're going to do a tour our tours at
four thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
But that was that was it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
We're here, We're going to do a tour our tours
at four thirty, but we're just doing a regular tour.
We're here, We're going to do a tour our tour
is at four thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Yeah, so that was another shadow figure. Yeah, that one
that wasn't an eye floater.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
No, I don't think unless we all have them right
doing the same thing at the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
Yeah, I think there was more than one running around there.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Yeah. And and what's crazy is that you know she
was at a place that was supposed to be pretty Yeah,
here you go seeing something.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Just so I'm going to play the other video too.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
This one is weird. So this one's not a shadow person.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
This will have you have a nightmare tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
I have reservations because it almost looks like it could
be staged, just from the way the thing moves. But
at the same time, I don't know if it is right.
It's like I'm up in the air. Definitely just watch

(01:20:15):
this one and tell tell me.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
Yeah, tell us, tell us what you think, tell us
what you think.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
It's it's weird, right, get up here, Carly, And did
you see that thing?

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
What the hell was that?

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
It turns up there and it's not there. I didn't
see a place where it cut. If you're good, you
can do.

Speaker 9 (01:20:48):
That reaction to it is almost.

Speaker 7 (01:21:02):
Something.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
I was afraid. It's a toucher.

Speaker 8 (01:21:08):
The way that that arm moves is like so unnatural,
but it's such a humanoid. Yeah, see the other arm,
see the hair.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Pretty well, that's interesting, that's what I say. I don't know,
I said, I'm still up at the air on that one. Yeah,
because it could definitely be hoaxed.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
Oh yeah, I mean, why would one arm be longer
than the other. And then that's that that weird like
fingers didn't look like it was there was, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Moves around it kind of. I don't know, I don't know.
That's a great costume. Yes, it was just like that's weird,
but it's creepy, creepy. Now something like that, I'd run
up there, be a little bit more apprehensive, but i'd run. Yeah,

(01:22:12):
I'd be going towards it, saysone too.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Oh yeah, you know me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Ray Christina says, I think that one staged. It just
seems like it because I wouldn't think that the little
girl would sit there. I think you'd have been screaming. Yeah,
but I don't know. I mean, but I do. That's
what I think. The white walkers are upside down. Yes,

(01:22:44):
that is freaky, like the ones that are like back
bent over and like walking like that. That's that would
be freaky.

Speaker 6 (01:22:53):
M h.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
If I was if we were somewhere doing an investigation Jason,
and something started coming up the stairs and coming around
like towards us like that, would you run? No, you wouldn't.
I'd step on your foot. I'd probably be froze, stiff solid.

(01:23:15):
M Yeah, I don't know. I yeah, I'm that's that
would be one creepy thing for me. I mean, I
wouldn't say that. I wouldn't be creeped out because that
would creep me out one, but I would want to
know what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
Yeah, I'd be like.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
What are you?

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
So we're going to go over this last part? Okay,
you want to do it this one? Yeah, just just
giving you some ideas of what to do if you
if you as if you have an encounter.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Yeah, So from a paranormal perspective of cleansing, you know,
for those who believe shadow figures are paranormal entities. One
of the primary actions recommended is to cleanse the environment
where the sightings occur. Now, that's typically involved spiritual or

(01:24:20):
energetic cleansing, which are practices that are aimed at removing
negative energies or entities from a space. We do it
at our house very often. Common cleansing methods include smudging
with sage or other sacred herbs. That's what we like
to do. And I could tell you I could feel
a difference in our house if my wife does it

(01:24:43):
and I'm away and I come back home, I walk
through the door and I one of my first questions
is did you sage today? Because I could literally feel
the weight of the world is on my shoulders. And
everybody feels this every day, but when I walked through
the door, it literally felt like there was a screen

(01:25:04):
that just took all that off of me. I don't know,
it's just it's awesome. I would say. Everybody needs to
do it often. Now, this is believed to purify the
air to spell unwanted spiritual presences. The smoke is wafted

(01:25:26):
through the area with intentions set for clearing and protection,
and remember it is all about intentions and open some
windows and doors. You're gonna make it mad if you
have something in your home and you run it from
one side to the other and you don't give it
a way out. Another popular method is using sound such

(01:25:49):
as ringing bells, clapping, chanting, which breaks up stagnant energy
and this encourage negative entities to leave now. Some also
use specific prayers or affirmations or invocations to higher powers,
asking for the space to be blessed and protected now.

(01:26:12):
This act of physically cleansing and decluttering the space is
also often recommended as it is believed that clutter and
dirt can harbor negative energies, so a tidy and well
maintained environment is thought to be less hospitable to unwanted
spiritual presences. So the intention behind cleansing is very crucial.

(01:26:36):
It's not just about physical act, but about focusing your
will and your beliefs on purifying the space and asserting
control over it. That practice aims at making the environment
less appealing and accessible to shadow figures, encouraging them to depart.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
So where do you get your sage?

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
My wife grows it on the oscars. My wife grows
sage and I feel that her intentions that she puts
on it when she grows it, it's not like it's
just sage from some mass manufacture. Her intentions and her

(01:27:19):
intentions while she's growing it and everything else. I really
do believe inside of me with everything that it makes
it more powerful because from the time it was planted,
which we've got several sage bushes out here now, but

(01:27:39):
from the time these things were a little bitty, the
intentions were for us to have our own sage and
not have to be reliant on getting it from wherever
and not understanding the where it came from and the
intentions that were set when it was grown. Because I
do believe that that has a lot to do with it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
So following a cleansing or as a protective measure, a
lot of individuals employee awards and protection techniques to prevent
shadow figures from returning or manifesting. So these methods create
a perceived energetic barrier around the person or property. Michelle says, Oh,

(01:28:32):
that's so sweet, thank you. Well, it's true only oscars.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Are you like actually asking a good place to get
sage or or anything, because I could probably help you
with that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
Oh, yeah. So, physical awards can involve placing specific objects
with protective properties, such as salt across doorways and windows,
crystals like black tourmaline, or religious symbols. These items are
believed to create a psychic or energetic shield. Energetic projection.

(01:29:17):
Protection techniques include visualizing and protective bubble of light around
oneself or the space and invoking guardian angels or benevolent
spirits or reciting protective mantras or prayers. The power of
intention and belief is the main thing to these practices.

(01:29:46):
For your personal protection, you could wear protective ambulance or
talismans regularly affirming one's personal boundaries and intentions not to
be disturbed by negative entities. So these practices aims to
strengthen one's aura and make them less vulnerable. Right, So,

(01:30:10):
the goal of wards and protection is to establish a
clear boundary signaling to any unwanted entities that are not
welcome and cannot enter or interact with a space or individual.
So this is proactive. This is a proactive approach and
it aims to maintain a sense of safety and spiritual integrity.

(01:30:36):
So when you're experiencing persistent or particularly distressing encounters with
shadow figures, you could seek guidance from knowledgeable individuals within
the paranormal or spiritual community. This can provide support, validation,
and practical advice.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
It's really good on the oscars if you could grow
them yourself, But if you get them from some where,
you know, it's still going to be a good urb.
It's not like it's bad. And I don't think that
there's you know, bad, It's just I just believe that
if you plant it yourself, you know what you're getting

(01:31:20):
and your intentions behind planting it and your intentions of
it growing and everything else. I think that just helps
with the with's what the plant does, and that again
most people may look at it and be like whatever
sagees age, you know and whatever, But I think again,

(01:31:41):
intentions when it comes to anything like that, intentions is everything.

Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
Yeah. So the phenomena of shadow figures remains captivating and
a lot of times terrifying within the paranormal discourse. While
scientific explanation is offer valuable insights into a lot of
the reported sightings, the persistent and often chilling accounts continue

(01:32:08):
to fuel the belief in their supernatural origins. So whether
they're a product of the human mind, a glimpse into
another dimension or you know, something else entirely, they can
they can continue to challenge our understanding of our reality

(01:32:30):
and leave a mark, a dark mark, uh, in their consciousness.
What do you think, I think it's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
I mean, you know, there's definitely something going on with
the shadow people from all across the world. You have
people that have these these encounters with him or it,
whether it be the hat Man or any other of

(01:33:05):
the you know entities. Something's definitely going on. And what
label someone puts on it is kind of irrelevant to
the fact that it happens. You know, it really does.
And a lot of times, again when I was talking
earlier about rationalizing and things like that, having to name

(01:33:29):
something and define something as part of rationalization, having to
get a definition for what it is, right, put it
in this box because then that's what it is. And
so it doesn't scare me as much now that I
know what it is. That's my opinion on that. But

(01:33:49):
it's definitely something going on, whatever it is. Well, thank
you Faces in the Stone.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
We last week we had some some internet issues couldn't
get on.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
So we had a tornado touchdown a mile and a
half or so from here. Yea, And we actually had
inner lightning strike the house, literally strike the house, and
it blew out our internet. A brand new stove we're

(01:34:28):
having to get fixed. And the hot tub. Ooh, I'm
having this cost me four hundred dollars to fix the
hot tub.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
Insurance won't pay.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
By the time I pay the deductible, it's going to
be pretty much the same. So that's why we didn't
have one on this last Saturday because the internet guy
was here trying to figure out what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
But you know Faces in Stone this Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Yes, we have a good show coming up this day.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
Yeah, gonna be live at eight pm on Saturday, Micah Dank.
We're gonna be talking about Masonic secrets and Biblical astrology.
So this guy's a former Mason. He's delivered a lot
of lectures on his work at the Grand Masonic Lodge

(01:35:32):
in New York, and he has this presentation that's eighty
minutes long he's gonna be showing us.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
So stay tuned, definitely tuned in for it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
A lot of people, the trustees on the board, they
said it's too revealing, and they I guess that's why
he resigned from the organization. So we're going to have
him on this Saturday at seven or eight pm Eastern time.

(01:36:04):
Don't miss that one. And the next Saturday, on the fourteenth,
we're gonna have Elena, which she was on the show tonight.
She was in the chat room. We're gonna be talking
about quantum healing and life guidance. That's gonna be fun. Yeah,
that'll be a fun show. She's a quantum healer, so

(01:36:25):
that's really gonna be great. So that's our next two
shows besides Thursdays.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
And we're almost fully booked up for the next two months.
Just to let you know, Yeah, we're on Saturdays.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
We're gonna have some good shows. Yeah only Oscar says.
Someone was looking after you, David when the lightning hit.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
Oh yeah, yeah it was. I was at work. The
wife was at home and she said that it scared her.
I mean it literally woke her up, and the kitty
cat ran underneath our bed in our bedroom and wouldn't
get out for like four or five hours. It's good,
the kitty cat so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
So I do want you to remember we're going to
be at the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference in July on
the twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
Yes, that's our next time that you will be somewhere
where you could see us, meet.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
Us, Yeah, talk to us, tell us your stories, man,
we love the stories. And then on October the eleventh,
we're going to be at the Knox Public Library on
Cedar Bluff, going to be doing a presentation on some paranormal.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
Yes, like, just like we did in February. They asked
us back before we finished packing up to leave, ask
us if we could come back in October, and we
absolutely said yes because we had a great time. So
that's going to be fun. We're going to get to

(01:37:57):
do that again. Oh yeah, enjoy enjoy it. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
That's about the end of our shadow show. David's gonna
take us out. Thanks everybody. July twenty sixth. I'm local
and we'll be bringing my bus. Oh really, whoa. So
you're gonna be able to be at the uh okay,
plan for it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
I am for it. Faces in the Stone, Yeah, we'll be.
Every year we go to the Bigfoot Conference in Gatlinburg and.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
It's a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
Our what fifth or sixth year, yeah, one of those two,
and we always have fun. And this year the lineup
is amazing. Yeah, it's one of their best years I
think that they've done. I really like their lineup.

Speaker 3 (01:38:45):
So uh yeah, not just uh, it's not just anymore.
It's not just Bigfoot. They do a lot of dog
man stuff. They do some dog mans, all cryptids they do. Yeah,
it's a really good time. Yeah, definitely plan for it.
I like to see your faces in the stone. That'd
be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
And anyone and everyone else that comes, oh yeah, and
stop by our booth and say hey to us. Remember
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Paranormal four one one on Facebook, YouTube, x, and Rumble.
Remember tune in live every Thursday from seven to eight
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(01:39:27):
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(01:39:47):
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Speaker 6 (01:40:20):
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secrets the night hides, what strange phenomena might be happening
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