Smokey Mountain Encounters with Stephen Watson_ Arcane Discoveries

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:13):
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the weird feels we tip were around you see.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Quart all of us in the foodst preachers.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Called from a timeless see life, fantasionic freaking place signals
from the hoisly day.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
All right, all right, it's Saturday, Saturday. I hope everybody
had a good week. It was hot, at least here
in East Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
It was.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
It surprised me it didn't rain yesterday. I mean it
didn't just a head but that's not it.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
It came a good one.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
Uh, it wasn't at my house.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Well here it came out to lose. It rained almost
all night long here. Wow. Yeah, our power went out
like three times.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
I was praying for it to rain, but never did.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah. Well thanks, I got your rain.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
My MUD's driving, My MUD's drying up. Mud puppies are crying. Huh, yeah,
got you. So we got a good show tonight. We
kind of put him on the spot Thursday and he said, Hey,
sure was like a short notice and we appreciate him

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coming on absolutely.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
Stephen Watson from our King Discoveries is going to be
with us. He got a lot of stuff going on.
When stories, I know knows a lot about the National Forest.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Maybe girl Casper says, no brain for me either. Man,
I guess I just live in the vortex. You must,
because it was terrible. I mode today and it was
just clumping and had before yesterday. I should have mode
last week it was almost it was bad.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
I need them all again. So Stephen Watson. He's a
dedicated researcher and investigator at Arcane Discoveries with deep rooted
connection to his hometown in Tennessee. At the age of
twenty nine, he has spent his entire life exploring the
vast expanse of the Cherokee National Forest in Teleco Plains,

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engaging in activities such as hunting, fishing, hiking, and camping.
He worked primarily. His work primarily revolves around documenting and
investigating a wide range of phenomena from paranormal to bigfoot
and historical events and a lot of local folklore. His

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experience span across my Roe McMahon and Polk Counties, where
he has collected numerous stories and personal encounters. His investigations
have led him to explore haunted locations, track down elusive creatures,
and delve into the mysteries of local legends. He has
also worked on theories related to historical figures and their

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possible connections to mythical beings. In addition to his research,
Stephen's a family man who shares his passion for the
unknown with his son. He's also part of a group
of like minded individuals who share their experience and findings,
contributing to the collective knowledge of their community. Stephen Relentless.

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Stephen's relentless curiosity and commitment to uncovering the truth make
him available as set to our Kane Discoveries in the
field of paranormal encrypted research. His work continues to shed
light on the mysteries that surround us, inspiring others to
look beyond on the known and question the world around them.

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So we're going to bring him on. What's up Steve
and see everybody. Hey, Chelle says she's on rubble rumble.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
I got a big thing, I got big standards. Now
after that intro, Yeah, I know right, that's pretty good.
I appreciate that I have to set the bar a
little higher, and I may have for some other research
I've been doing that involves the sky above us. Oh really,
I don't know where he is gonna start with where. Yeah,
let's start with that. Yeah, you y'all and everybody may

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have heard of it before. But something I've kind of talked,
I've not talked, but I've kind of been digging into
here recently trying to understand about aeroplankton. Aeroplankton is pretty
much micro organisms of some sort that live in the atmosphere.
So there's a portion of the atmosphere between where I
can't remember the exact stratisy. It's not the stratosphere, I

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don't think, but there's a certain point in the atmosphere
where actual life is living. There's actually water, you know,
as you go up and elevation gets colder, and then
there's a point in humidity that they're sustainable for life.
This is also where shout out to justin Crips of
the Corn, because I got a lot of my information

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from him. These are worred, these matter rays and jellyfish
like objects are coming from and feeding from and especially
in our area where we have high evations. That's helped
feed that ecosystem. Ecosystem up in the sky, all the
moisture and the humidity and everything else coming off the trees.

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So yeah, it's a pretty Still I'm still learning a
little bit more of it, but yeah, that's something I'm
diving off to right now.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Wow, they've even heard of it at all.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yeah, it's like little micro organisms that like plankton and
other such things like that.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Have you heard that?

Speaker 5 (06:58):
Never heard of it?

Speaker 3 (06:59):
That's cool, that's cool. I mean, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
I mean it's got to happen, though, I mean I
believe it happens.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Because it's well, I mean, I wouldn't see why not,
because we already know that organisms live in the coldest places,
in the hottest places on Earth, and also in space.
There's organisms that can live in space too, and so
if that's I mean, we know that's real, So why
wouldn't I couldn't that be?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
You know, a certain sphere shares a lot of relations
with the ocean, so there's a lot of right now.
NASA and some other scitis have added forty thousand different
types of micro organisms that live in that space, and
these people have been seeing manta rays and jelly like
fish like things coming through that area or down in
our lower atmosphere here, and that's where they believe it

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could be feeding at Wow, they're very translucent, so that
would give a lot of insight to your Wow. Would
I put it like you're you living? You have it moves.
It ain't like a normal tic tack or anything like.
It'd be like a moving UFO. And I've seen videos
and pictures it looks like an actual mannaa going through

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the sky. It's pretty neat.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
I think I have seen some of those, and I
was just like, Yeah, wouldn't that also explain the way
that them creatures can live. It's such a depth in
the ocean. Like you know, the vacuum space is pressure,
so this pressure in the ocean is probably around the same.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
It's exactly the same. How the further you go down
in the ocean, like the Maria of transfer's so much
pressure there. But at the same time, if I may
have my facts a little wrong, at this sphere, at
this certain point of elevation, there's not a whole lot
of pressure putting onto these creatures or whatever they are,
So it's sustainable enough for them to live. They've got water,
they got food, They pretty much feed off each other,

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and then the moistern atmosphere, that's where they get their water.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
That's interesting. Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
I like that. Yeah, it's a very deep topic.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
I might have to look into that myself, because I've
never even dove down that.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Yeah, as the saying goes, hole was as below as above.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
So so so let's see as above so below. Yeah, yeah, yep,
that's it.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
So I know you got a recent recent siding up here.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Did a little bit on Thursday show was a blown county.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
No, it's over here in county, going up city. Okay,
so pretty much that night, me and my boy we
got out and rode around. We started back Creek because
have we talked about that incident. We haven't talked about
the where he heard the voices.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
And yeah, I don't know if we did while he
was on the show, but you've told us about Okay, yeah,
I think it's when we was over there.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, I don't know we talked about here, that's another story. Anyways,
we went out to Back Creek and uh, we was
this cruising like we normally do. You know as we've
always done. Nothing, just got out stood there at the well,
just waited and see what could be happening. And we're
probably there about ten to fifteen minutes. I started gett hot.

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I'm a big boy, so I started to get home. Eh,
let's go. I'm tired. I'm tired to sitting here. Mosquitoes
you know that don't took off with us, and that's
where another jeep would come here. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Boy, that wasn't fun last time, was it? But h
I was afraid someone was going to die that day.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Yeah. Anyways, we go on up and to light the
Sequoia Museum area, all of that area, and kind of
just sporing because I went up one of the roads
as I'm going up to the city co just kind
of pull off and look around because I haven't been
out there, and I found a huge mass. I found
a graveyard that I didn't know was back card really,
so after you cross, I can take you there. It's

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hard to explain. It's one of the pull offs, one
of the last pull offs. Got the National Foresters sign
there and it's offered to bury back with a gate.
There's this a little bitty graveyard on the right, but
you know, maybe something else kind of point of interest.
I didn't know what was there, but we went around there.
You know, nothing really happened there, and I let you know,

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we had a good night to night. I know, my
boys fourteen side to start team to teaching the drive
and I thought, I'll sit over here and let you
drive a little bit on these roads. And he did good.
I'm I'm quite proud of anything for it. Yeah, so
we sye my turn drive. So we go on up
and he had last summer been doing some cleaning out
of summer camp that did went to like City Co

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and some of the hiking trails and stuff like that
and did some cleaning. Well, he went to Chucks. I'm
gonna why I'm speaking, I'm gonna pull that camp side
up because I cannot remember the number right the top
of my head, but pretty much it's the one at
the end of City Co. If you come in from
varn Or side and you go all the way down
past the horse crowd and everything, there's that little concrete

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bridge that drops down to that one in the back. Yeah. Well,
I've heard countless after countless after countless, you know, encounters
with Bigfoot where they're circling the camps. They're throwing rocks,
they're making noises, they're bluff charging. Even I was thinking
about the way over here, Matt Sieber miss Tendsey. Okay,

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while by let's see, when I first got on this,
talked to the subject. I talked to him a little bit.
Someone reported seeing nest back there, and he actually went
back and I remember talking to but he said, Yeah,
there was these large woven together nest. One of them
was about he said, I think ten fifteen feet off
the ground in a tree. Wow, So there's this countless
things there.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
We had a guy when we was at here in
Louden for that October thing that we did downtown. Yeah,
remember what that was called.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
I have no idea what it was called.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
But anyway, he told us a story about that he
was back there hunting and he goes, when you go
back there, there's a way that it's of splits, and
then it goes off onto another bridge, and then it
goes up and its dead ends, and then the would
get out and probably walk another two miles back there
to go hunting or something.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
That's the city. Yeah, that sounds like to me sort
of far gap of yeah, I see. There's there's one
big hole section of mountain they called up on the
left side. We've called it. I've been Tod's been called
and I've been there called the little stack and the
big stack that's just right outside of the bearserves a
lot of people like go and hunt, and I knew

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guys that hunt back in there and stuff like that.
But this word I'm talking about would lead right into
that if you walk it, because there's hiking trails right.
You know, all the hiking trails up to their lead
to one another. Right.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
That's where he said he had. He was out there
hunting and he had something that was encircling him. And
then he said then it was like more than one.
And he said that it was gone, and he said
he's not been back since, and it has been I
don't know what he say, ten to twelve years or something,
he's not been back.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah, I know that's the number one thing that happens
in that area. Your camp will be circled. And it's
not only right there at the actual camp site. It's
people would walk off the trail a little bit and
camp I've done it before a long time ago, but
I don't never remember anything happening. But that's the number
one thing. Their camps will be circling. As they're circling,
they come in closer every round they may. I've got

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like in my little notebook here I brought with me
in case I need to notes. There's a bfr O
report about one that come in and it is how
it is kept circling circles up picked my interest and
I started checking more people and everything. That's the number
one thing that happens. Yep.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
When that guy said it, I was like, man, we
need to we need to go back here. Oh yeah, yeah,
we've got some thermals and we've got not vision and everything.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
It's where I think it is. I know, the perfect
spot where you walk up what I've called I don't
know if that's the exact name for it, but I've
called it. My Papal's called it the Heaven staircase. It's
just kind of like rocks cut out into the side
of the side of the hill of the ridge and
you go up to the When you get to the top,
you've got this massive area. You can just look off
down the hall all the way to the bottom. It's

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just a huge white oaten spot. It's kind of where
I'd like to go and take that three mile black
plastic and wrap some bane of tree that's leave them there,
see what happens, because you know Irma will see that. Yeah,
but you know it won't be detectable, you know, to
the naked eye because it's black.

Speaker 6 (15:22):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
So yeah, but we went to go check out that
camp site because I know you could you could still
camp there at least until they probably get you out
one not because there was problems with people coming there,
destroying and everything else. That's why he went and cleaned
it up. Well, as we're coming up to it and
we're starting starting to go up the little hill, I
look and there's three or four concrete barriers right in

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the front of the bridge, and I can take you
without a shadow of doubt. Last or this past spring
Turkey season, we come down that way, there's people there,
but this time it's closed. M M. You couldn't get
into it. I don't know. I don't know why they've
closed it. I'm going to try to figure out why,
because that's been a that's a very popular place to camp.
Everybody's camp there, that's right.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Does that have that bridge the low concrete bridge. Someone
that I was work that I worked with said that
he thinks that bridge was getting replaced.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
It was replaced, actually not too long ago.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
I might have been what he was talking about, the
pretty newer Yeah. Well, as he said that, we had
a big storm that came through not a year or
two years or three years ago or something that just
washed it out.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, well it was like I said last spring, it
was it was.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Over, Okay, So then that must not be the same one.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
Then, yeah, baby girl, Casper says it's the submarine bridge
what they called it.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
I don't know if that's what the con or not.
I ain't heard it called that.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
She said that that area has been closed this year
for clean up.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Well, it's like I said last summer, he was there
cleaning it. Right. We'll figure it out one way or another.
But so I was disappointed about that because I want
to pull in earth see what's going to happen. I thought, well,
well this hat on up, monkey holler and go see
if the witch is awake or Jeffrey's out running blue.
You know, because that portion right there where that campground

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is is a little name me my pipe on. Some
friends have called Monkey Holler. The only reason it's called
monkey Holler is a guy come down camping one time
back way back then had a pet monkey and they
got loose, so would see the monkey running around and everything,
and so they called it monkey Holler. At least.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, I believe that thing stayed alive for long you.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Would, well, I mean, I don't know, he may not.
He may have adapted, yeah, and grown to who knows what.
But we go up through her. And as we're traveling
up through her, now you can ask, my boy, how
is this kind of like I don't like being in
here at dark? I just I've had a couple of
things happen on that road at dark and I'm not

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really fond of and so I just I don't stay
there very long. So I just go cruising up through her.
And I've got my ditch lights on my truck, on
my hood and everything, and I've got the ones in
the backs. I had a pretty good three sixty few.
As we're going up there what I call the Witch's Cap,
because the witch is supposed to be off on the
right hand side of the holler, and that's where she

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had her house and everything else. So the top boat
was called the Witch's Cap. As we're going up, I
just happened to turn and kind of turn my head
to the right, and as I did, there was something
very large, I mean very large, start up the ridge
at a right angle, kind of like a right angle
from us. Whatever this was was moving at speed. I

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about did not catch it because it howll happened like
two seconds, It's like, and it was gone. But the
thing about this thing was, if you imagine Patty Patty
Given film when she's walking right before she goes behind
the rocks and turns and looks back to the right,
she's got that right foot up, that's exactly what I seen.

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But it was like a a brownish tan color. It
wasn't a red because right now whitetail deer in our
area like a dark red with a hint of brown
and starting to grow velvet stuff.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah, I saw one the other day that already started
having one.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
So seen one yesterday. Man, it was red.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yeah, it's probably about it.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
I thought about what you said. Yeah, he's right, they're red.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
So and I've got on camera from this past deer season,
some very large white tail deer in the mountains is
very large for our area and the biggest one I've
got right now? This why claim a creek deer? He's
ever bit this wide and ever bit about twelve and
a half maybe points. He'll be bigger this year. This
deer has to be ever bit this wide. I would say,

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what three foot wide? Whatever this was was much much wider.
Looked like two of its side by side, and it
was this gone of the reds in matters seconds, I mean,
just disappeared.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
See that was like my sighting when I saw big foot.
It was so fast and it was going up a
hill that it was just like you know, I.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Having so quick. Yeah, that's exactly what it was. If
I had been just a little bit, and I think
about it now, if I hadn't slowed down for a
little water rut or the wash out right there in
that curve before I got there, I would have caught
it at the road. There ain't no way I wouldn't
have if I had been that two three seconds quicker.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
And you did like where I wish I had a
dash cam.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Oh yeah, my trucks even got a little attachment for it.
So yeah, I need to get one, definitely.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, that's what happened to me because I was in
a big truck when I saw mine, and I was like, man,
I wish I had a dash cam because he ran
across the road in front of me.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Yeah, and we was on the way down and boy
was finding me. Let's get out, like I said, No, No,
you're not getting out, I said, because look at this. Yeah.
I love this subject. We hunt, we hike, we camp
in these woods. I'm not having something mess that up
for us. No, I said, I've got the creek heer
to get after it. I ain't gonna be scared of
these woods. So that whole way down and you can

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ask him, I'm that wasn't a deer. That wasn't a deer.
That there's no way that's dear, that's not a deer.
I fought myself the whole way down that mountain. I
hurried home. Did get home.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, after that, so I'm to go.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, that's enough.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
That's what happened last Friday.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Man, I was in Knoxville. I'd like to win, but
I was eating a big old buff he in Knoxville.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
I was working. Yeah, I had to go into work
early early that next morning.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
I slept in that morning. Next morning, Oh yeah, yeah,
next morning I slept in. I ain't doing it. I'm
gonna stay right here in my comfy bed. I don't
blame Yeah, I want to go back now. But see
what was the weird part? And see I have I've
got a friend at work and he's a verry skeptic.
He kind of brings me back down when I get
up here now talking to him about it, because I

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noticed when we got up front of the top, there's
a pull off right there on the right, and there's
people had tints and stuff set up there. It's not
a camping spots actually just pull off from their Highking Trail,
but there's people camp there. And the whole time we
was coming up through city code, there were people out,
you know, doing their thing at night. It's dark, you know,
but these people there was nobody. There's nothing. There was

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not a stir, there was not a lie and nothing on.
I didn't see nobody there whatsoever. And I thought that
was kind of weird. Everybody else is out doing their thing,
but this spot there's nobody. I couldn't see nobody. They
may locked yourselves in there because it was literally literally
a football filled away from that campsite. M yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
They have been may have been circling them, heard you
coming and decided to high tail it out very well.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Could you know?

Speaker 3 (22:49):
That sounds something like something like that would happen.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
But like I said, my friend kind of brings me down.
He's like, oh, that was somebody in a suit, that's
why you didn't see nobody there. I'm like, okay, yeah,
let's see it.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
I don't know, you'd have to be pretty dumb to
do that, because because you could, you could carry and
a lot of people do because they're they're doing something.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Technically on that stretch of mountain on the forestry road
in your vehicle, you're allowed to have fire arm, but
if you step off the road into the trail and stuff,
you can't because it's embarrassing. So and that just feeds
into all these guy he's talking about that whole side
of that mountain. You go, you can't carry no firearms,
ors hiking trails, there's no camping off in there. But
that whole side of that mountain is feeds into a

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lot of reports off in the Far Gap and everything
else where. I've heard even from Janis Carter that she
calls the old grumpy Man, the old big grumpy big
Foot of the Mountain or something like that. He lives her,
and she when I remember talking to her about all
his encounters having her, she said, that's who it was.
She says, the old grumpy big Foot of the Mountain
said he can get up here and resemble a snake

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rattlesnake to run people off at the Turkey Creek overlook.
A lot of people have that hurt him there imit
taking that very large rattlesnake.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Hmmm, that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
I've heard. I've heard about it about a handful of
stories about that.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
They talk about them being really good at imitating you know,
sounds and all kinds of other stuff.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, we heard some. Was it this spring Turkey spring season?
We heard, No, it wasn't this past because we only
went once or twice. But last spring season Turkey season,
we heard some weird noises up there down towards kind
of want to give away my hunting spot. Let's do
that down on the river where we hunt at and stuff.
There was a lot of weird noises going on. Oh

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and also for I forget, remember the story I told
you is about the dog behind its head clapped in yes. Yeah.
With this past spring turkey season, I accidentally come upon
that site. I didn't remember it because now, which is weird.
In the center of it, kind of where we found
that dog at there's a mound. I don't remember a
mound being there.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
You think something buried it.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
I don't know what made me go back there, because
there was this down on that portion of it. Someone
looked I think the forestry apartment maybe got a little
road out and kind of cut a fire line real quick.
It's not actual road. So I pulled in there and
we went in there, sat down that morning to call
some birds, see what we can do. And I didn't
notice it until we left and we're walking out and
I'm looking at my hang on a minute, I said,

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that gap there looks awful from here. Turn around, there's
that big old pine tree. I said, yep. They said
what my kids were, and they said, wasn't remember the
story about the dog. The dog was laying right there.
Oh yeah, yeah, I was in that. I found the
spot again. I didn't realize until I was walking out.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Man, I'm right back where I found that. That's crazy, Yeah,
that is crazy. I mean, you know if that area
is able to support bear, it's able to support a
big foot.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Right. Someone did a study once on black bear populations
and the diversity of what they eat and what they
consume and everything. So they said, okay, well there's two
hundred black bear per two hundred acres. Say a bear
needs about an acre apiece. Right, It's kind of like
cattle every piece of every one county is two point

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three acres to itself to survive on, you know, grass
and stuff. But black bear, you know, they like I said,
they used that and they kind of said, well, if
you have this population in this mass here, let's upgrade it.
So this area could support two hundred black bear, no problem.
Bigfoot was with the same diet you're looking at maybe

(26:30):
four or five a family group could very easily survive there, right,
very easily.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
It's funny because we had Scott violet on and stuff,
you know, not that long ago, and he was an anthropologist.
That's what got him into to the studies and stuff.
Is he was on these Indian reservations and they started
kind of being like, yeah, it's Bigfoot's real, you know.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
And but.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
They started looking at habits and they getting all they're
getting all these reports from everywhere. And then they're also
using that app, that bigfoot app, that track it an
app or whatever that want to Yes, that's it, they're
using that. And they said that if you really look
at it and you dive deep into it, he says
that you could tell that a family group has about

(27:20):
a two hundred acre plot that's theirs, and that they
will start on one end of it, and they will
work around and about every couple of years they'll be
back right where they started. And so and he says,
if you look at the reports, the reports even show that.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, he works with his wife, and his
wife as a psychologist, does all the she ties that
into the way they're thinking and they're migrating.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Well, but say, if you think, if I'm a six
foot or seven foot creature out of woods, it weighs
almost one thousand pounds, I'm going to need the nutrices,
So I'm gonna have to move with the water, with
the with the food what grows here at this point
in time, and that yes, you know you're gonna have
to yep.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
And then the seasons too, because it gets colder earlier
in the season up high. So then you start moving
down load to get you know, oh.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Yeah, I would have loved before they open up the bridge,
up the telecover, you know, the lawtery of Falls Bridge.
I would have loved to just been a fly on
a walk somewhere down that road, because I guarantee you
there was so much that went on on those roads.
It's because I think that was part of because if
you look at the deer population this portion when I'm
hunting on the river, there used to never be this
amount of large bucks in that area. They were there

(28:38):
all of a sudden. I've got if people I don't
keep up with a rating class, but you like score deer,
i'misa say the two biggest ones I have probably score
like a one sixty one eighty. If you're scoring them,
that's a big monstrous deer. I mean the deer's and
the head has to be huge. So if you think
about that, this surplus of population of deer, why wouldn't

(29:01):
a bigfoot Why wouldn't it fall it down there for
a food source? Right? But I tell you what, when
bigfoot gets my deer, I'm be.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Like the guy I saw today on a on a video.
He was hauling in a tuna or something like that,
and there's a big white shark that been almost half
of it office out there eating it as he's pulling
it up out of the water.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
Triple Oscars is with us tonight on a Saturday.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
So talking about Paul River Falls, hasn't there been some
sightings on top of that?

Speaker 4 (29:38):
I've got and the don't. Come to think of it,
I've got two that stand out to me, and they're
both the same and kind to think of the one
that I heard the probably the earliest one. The way
the man described that bigfoot describes what I seen Friday night,
kind of think of it. It was that same color,
but he's seen it during the day. They were upper
on top of the fall, on the kind of the

(30:01):
back of your side, back side. They were digging for ramps,
so it was up or digging. They heard a noise
come from the right and as they looked up they
seen this, he said, female bigfoot. It had breast and everything,
he said, come walking across the trail. And as it
walked across, it kind of had this twilight. Looked to
like Edward or whatever his name is, it kind of glimmered. Oh, yeah,

(30:28):
there we go.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
It's a shiny bigfoot. Wow. It was been dazzled.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah, and there was a guy some time later. He
wouldn't at the Ball of Falls, but sometime later he
was out past Green Cove. I think after the State
Line campground. There's another pull off at that end. You
can go and ride around sacks where the jeep used
to ride. They don't do that no more. He was
there looking for some I don't remember what he's doing,
but anyways, he said he was off the trail, off

(30:55):
the road a little bit, was walking around. Next thing,
you know, he had to crash. He looked up in
this big foot sort of the same that brown tennis color,
come walking across, well, not walking, he said. It look
like it was sprinting, he said. But the movement it
was doing as it was kind of gliding, he said,
was gliding but like flying at the same time. He
didn't know what to think of it. Wow.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
Yeah, inter dimensional bigfoot vampires you know the squatch? Yes, yeah,
the squatch. That's pretty wild.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
That'd be something that would be be kind of like
the Gugways. Yeah, that'd be like your yeah, because they've
got faces like that with the sharp teeth and everything. Yeah,
that'd be scary.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
No thanks, No, not unless I'm packing.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Yeah yeah, ye, holy water and ten millimeters.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
I found out how to make holy water. Yeah. Oh wow,
pull the hell out of it. Oh man, that was
a good dad joke. I learned the other day, and
I was like, I've been using it everywhere I can,
and I need that one too. What did they say?

Speaker 5 (32:10):
Oh, Leanne's a new watcher. She says, this is incredibly interesting. Oh,
thank you.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Line.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
Steven's interesting. He's got a lot of good got a
lot of good story information.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
I try. Yes, yeah, that tell you is about the
red wolf we run into.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
No, oh that they don't exist.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
They don't exist exactly. It's kind of like the mountain
lines I run into up right. So again, it seems
like spring is big movement for them up something's up,
you know, seems like a big movement for us running
into something. Well, we got on one of these roads
up or by Turkey Creek, one of the logging roads,
and just walking down through or this I'm call blasting this,

(32:48):
that and the other, and we're hearing I'm hearing a
tom or gobble way way off in the distance. We're
just easing No, way too him. And I've got keep
in mind, I've got my backpack on and in my
back pack, I've got these two turkeys. The course still
on the side of my back. Well no more. I mean,
of course there in Turkey says you don't have to
wear orange. But here I am with these two big
old turkey decoorse on my back. We're walking up there

(33:11):
and I'm calling and you just hear this big crash
come all of the woods. And I didn't see it
until it jumped out in the road. This thing jumped
out in the road. I drew my pistol because I
didn't know what it was, had another shot in my
shotgut my hand, but I drew my pistol as outsteps
this cana, large red cana. Wow, I mean this is

(33:32):
big as this talking about gives me a beautiful beautiful
I mean beautiful. See.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Supposedly they removed them all because it was getting distemper
and everything, and they took them all out of the area.
That's what I heard.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
And I was like, you serious, we need that type
of preador. Yeah, we don't have a preastor.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Here really, And that was an indigenous to the area.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Oh yeah, definitely know. But see it didn't click because
that weekend we went to the Knoxville Zoom h and
we went over. We're walking up by the rhinos and stuff.
We get to the wolves because some of the family
had to go to his bathroom. Me and my kids
there seeing it, were like, hey, ain't that and that is?
And it sure was. To the to the speck it

(34:10):
was a red wolf wall stepped out from heating me
to that wall.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Well you know, if there's one, then there's got to
be yeah, enough to have a sustainable population, right And.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
See that kind of worried me because he was by himself.
And then I thought that I'm like, okay.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yep to the drug never mind, Yeah you give giddy.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Yeah, I got him closer for you go, you can
have him.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
He's probably jumping out because he's all those on your back.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
And he was like he didn't know what to think.
We did both. We just stared at each other and
we didn't say a word. The kids are behind me.
I was afraid of some catch a bird shot up
my left side, maybe him shooting or something. But it
was It's very interesting. I mean, it was every bit
from me to that wall, from me. I mean jumped
out right in front of me. I think if i'd

(34:56):
been a little bit quicker, probably jumped on my back.
Turkey w down.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
That's what he taught with those turkeys on your back,
what it was like to get me a turkey. And
he's like looking at you like you're not a turkey.
You don't look like a turkey. You sound like a turkey.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
Ye, what's up, jeff Ray? How you doing right? You
can join us, buddy. Well, I've worked for you. I mean,
let's do it's whatever. Talk about something interesting for me
and David is city not city cove, but Cade's cove

(35:33):
around in that area because we're wanting to go up there.
So you got anything.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
I don't have a whole whole lot, but I have
dug into quite a bit. I mean, you look at it.
Your typical sightings, you know, kind of a distance, a
lot of noises more than anything like a yell, screams.
People have reported sounds like gorillas fighting in the woods.

(35:59):
That's that's a big one that sticks out. There's like
four or five reports I've heard and I've read that
they sounds. They say, oh it sounds like goerrilla's fighting
in the woods and hollering at beat in her chest.
So that's a big thing there. And then in the
Smoky Mountains, every time there's a bigfoot around, there's usually
orbs and associated. That's a big thing in the Smoky Mountains.

(36:21):
It's not so big our area here. When you're Smoking Mountains,
you have a lot of orbs associated. When it comes
to these big foot counters, I mean, they're just wanted
one together.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Tell you what's funny is that Greg Gogels he'll be
coming on the show Why does that just before the
Bigfoot Conference July nineteen. But his films he's got straight
up video of these orbs and it's cool because I've

(36:52):
never seen anything like that. But you get all the
you know, not only the indigenous side of it that
a lot of them talk about the orbs and stuff
like that, but people that have encounters have encounters with
them and these orbs, and most of the time most
people just dismiss it, you know. But to see it

(37:15):
for my first time and it's on video, You're like,
that's that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
I've always that's one place I would love to go
and do some field work or look into because somewhere's
I've never been at night and stuff like that. Every
time I drive through, I'm like, yet, we'll get to
this field. Let's make make another Patty Field.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yes, but that's the un fortune.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Yeah, there's been cantless stories when Bigfoot there, seeing that
a UFO appears, Yes, there's that's one of another another
big things. What's the connection? Who knows? And then you've
got to throw in the disappearances, you know, like Genzi
talked about the sucks, the missing, the missing for stuff,
the files that you got, yes, when I don't was

(38:00):
looking into that. The biggest thing that stuck out to
me was oak Ridge National Laboratory Laboratory was involved. Why
why were they? The Green Berets and everybody things, But
nowhere in those documents does it say where the Oakridge
National Laboratory personnel went. Yep, it does not mention it
one bit.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
And the Green Berets too. That was weird, like they
don't do that kind of stuff. And then they set
up separate and didn't really do anything with the rest
of the research or the searchers. They went on their own.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
So it's like and they were there's several people say
they were in the area training already green berets. Just
don't drop that and come look for a kid. I'm sorry,
but that's that's the sorry is to it. So, I mean,
this kid had to have some I would imagine if
it's like a presence kid or whatever. Yeah. Maybe, But
the personnel that was on the ground looking for this
for Dennis Martinnnis Martin was unreal and nothing was found.

(39:00):
But like I said, the old Gridge National Laboratory sticking
at was the biggest red flag for me, and no
one knows where they went.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
I've been able to get those files and stuff was amazing.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, I appreciate you sharing it with me.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
I think I think a lot of those a lot
of files we didn't get. I do believe that the
government knew something else, Oh I'm sure, yeah, definitely, and
they just hushed everything up and just I don't know, right,
that's what. Yeah, why would the army and the green
bereves be there.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah, there'd be no written, no reason. No, they don't
go looking for that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
They don't even FBI why were they there. They really
didn't get involved in this person cases at all.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
And then that same as a kidnapping or something they do.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
But that same FBI ag it didn't. I've had to
brush up on that, but didn't. Wasn't he found committed
suicide And actually, and I remember reading a document on him,
just find it online that they had found I can't
remember his name, they had found him deceased and he's
home by suicide.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
M Now, that's just funny. That's just Clinton's kidnapped him.
They're the ones he did it, yea, and the Rockerfellers
and everything.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
And also I think I mentioned it last Thursday, Italians,
you know, texting back and forth, you know here recently
happening as we speak, more than more than likely is
that a lot of campsites are being closed down in
the Great Smoky Mountains. That's crazy. And it was like
a second hand story told to me, like a third
hand story. But pretty much the way it's going is

(40:33):
people are leaving by the truckloads, just leaving in the
middle of night, just getting out and just running as
fast as they can.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
That's interesting.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
And the way it's being related to what these people
are saying is we're seeing stuff we cannot explain.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
We do not know what this is at all.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
And I heard I read a report the other day
that there's a guy has some property up there at
the state line on the Cherokee side. He's been having
house counts to lee for the last year and a
half every night, like clockwork. And I don't know if
that's a correlation with the campgrounds being closed down, but

(41:10):
something's going on. If the park rangers going and stepping
in like hey, nope, no more camping, We're just gonna
close it down.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
It's just interesting. Do we think it's Bigfoot or do
we think it might be something else.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
The way it was told to me is that people
are saying, we do not know what we're saying. It
is not natural, is the way it was put to me.
So that opens Pandora's box. It does.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
It makes me wonder about dog Man because that seems
like a very weird one to me, like that like
something that if you saw it, that would definitely have
the brown pants problem. I wish you'd better be wearing
your brown pants because that would be the one for me. Bigfoot,
he seems like he tries to get you to go,

(41:54):
but he's not killing you.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
I think he just wants to be left.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah, it's bluff charges and throwing the rocks AT's saying, hey,
just get just get out of here, unless you're in Portlock, right, Alaska,
and then they dismember you up there. But they don't
even mess with you.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
But different clan, that's what it is. Different clan from
the Apaches. And then who's the peacefullest clan?

Speaker 3 (42:19):
I hope he's were pretty peaceful.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
We see. You know, I've thought about this a lot,
and like I said, my skeptic friend at work, you know,
he kind of brings me back down. He's very religious
and stuff. Like he said, think about this, he said,
the Cherokee called in the guardians of the forest. He said,
why wouldn't God had made somebody or put somebody there
to help protect that or something, you know what, The

(42:43):
possibility endless, what it could be. Janis Carter has said
that when she spoke to them that they were danced
into creation by the danced into creation by the imagination
of the creator. Very colorful way of saying God or something,
you know, right, very.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
That's very interesting. I know I know that you know
the Cherokee side of it, Sukuloo, and there's many tales
even from the Cherokee on that particular being himself and

(43:26):
uh I mean from Guardian, but also a little bit
more than that in other ways, you know, especially when
you start talking about the Anglicized name for it, where
you know he came down and see his hand the
Judicola Judicola's rock, which is the Anglicized version of Sukulou.

(43:52):
But you know where there's almost bipolarness in in the
way that things are on on those things.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
You know, I think it has to do with your
geographic geographical region, because if you think, like you said,
port Lock and some of your states out west, look
at what society is like there, Look how humans are there.
They can be the best people ever met. Or you
get to a certain point of that town or that
place and it's just awful or something happens. You know,

(44:22):
what's to say, it's not the same for Bigfoot? What's
the same that you know, we got the more southern
Bigfoot down here at.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
They just like to drink some shine and drink go
frog gigas right.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
Just to hunt and live. And you've got those ones
that's just been very hostile a lot of times. Get
out exactly or you know, who knows, But that's just
a good theory to kind of something I've always wanted
to dig into.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
Right when you think about this new Bigfoot blog, Yeah,
some of it's funny.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Some of us funny, and some of it's just out
right just what the AI? I found this beer?

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Man, I've been having some fun with some of that stuff,
and I'm like, why did I think that?

Speaker 4 (45:07):
Exactly? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (45:08):
I mean man, I mean it got over what six
point five million followers over that? Oh, it's three while you.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Try to do the dog Man? Seen the dog Man
one yet?

Speaker 5 (45:19):
Right, I've seen the two old ladies and that's funny.
I can't I can't say none of that stuff on here.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
Well, yeah, it's gone out of control, that's for sure,
but it's hilarious. He'll keep you up in.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
Hey, i's good rolling through Facebook. They're all over the place,
everywhere you go. Yeah, big Foot blogs. I felt like Jason,
I found a case of beer. We're chump out of airplane. Yeah,
and he's got this he's recording, you know, so he's
got something.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
No, well, it's almost like it's.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
On a selfie stick. Oh, got right around talking like
getting these kids now days. I got like something that's
cap Chad and I don't know, some crazy talk like that.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
That's insane. That is insane.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
Oh yeah, it's that's what technology will do.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Have you had an encounter yourself that was stuck with you?

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Oh yeah, the one where work something stopped me out
of the woods. Yeah, yeah, I can go through that one. Yeah.
So back in October November, summer's running there of twenty twelve, right, yeah,
twenty twelve, Yeah, twenty and twelve. So I went up
to a portion of the mountain by myself to kind

(46:42):
of do some deer white tail hunting. And me and
my pipe hadn't seen it before, and you know, he
had to work. You know, he's kind to think of it.
He's seventy six, seventy seven, seventy eight, he's done retired
three times. Now he's back logging again.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
He won't stop. Ayways, that weekend he wanted to work
because he just don't stop. And so I went by myself.
So I get up at early that morning, go to
my pull off spot. It's kind of hard to explain
where it's at. I can more show, but it's just
one of the pull one of the main pulloffs off
the after you pass the first overlook. Coming up the mountain,

(47:19):
there's a like a big hill. And at the top
of that big hill, for anybody knows, I'm talking about
the top of a big hill, there's a big grass
open air at t that we already cut out for
grass and stuff I get for deer and everything else.
So I followed the trail out like I normally did.
That morning. It was dark. I'll usually go in, try
to get sit down at least an hour an hour
and a half before daylight. Try to. Sometimes it don't happen,

(47:40):
but try to and get going down through where and
I find my spot, you know, and sit down still dark, nothing,
nothing happens, and I sit there all day. I just
lean up against the tree and I'm just looking around.
Eat my snacks, you know, eat my honey buns and
everything else I can. And there's some dough was come through,

(48:01):
but they didn't stay around very long. It's big will
Hall come through and I thought you'd be fun, but
I'm not dragging you out myself. So he he left
me alone and went on and probably didn't. I'll get that. Well.
You know, Mama always made sure I had snacks. I

(48:21):
oh yeah, yeah. But so I sit there all day
and I'm sitting there scoring them out with my hands,
you know, kind of see how much daylight I got
lift And I'm watching. I'm like, God, it's trying to
pack up. Let's go. Probably get about two or three
minutes into my walk back back on the log road,
because you know, I was on the Logan Road, got
off a little bit, stopped. Now I'm back on the

(48:42):
Loger road. So when I got back on the Logan Road,
as I'm walking, just beat bomping down through where and
I hear a crunch beside me. So I just kind
of stop, look up to my right, don't see nothing, okay, whatever,
you know, yo, walking back out? As I'm walking out,
and I'm starting to hear crunching and something like a

(49:03):
shovel but steps just a few yards from me to
my rye and I stopped. It would stop, I start again,
it would start again, so and I'm like, all right,
what what are you doing? I thought it was a bear,
and I was like, all right, you know, what do
you want? What do you want? My honey, buney. That's

(49:23):
exactly whatst And that's what I was doing as I
walked down there. I'm talking this bear because I didn't
want you to jump out, you know, whatever. It doesn't
you know, I'm there, be loud and everything else. I'm like,
you can have the honey, but when I get out,
let's let me get out down here, you know. So
as I'm walking down there, it would stop. Every time
I stopped, it would stop. I'd pick up my pace,

(49:44):
it'd pick up its pace. I'd stop abruptly, it stopped abruptly.
This went on for like seeming eternity, but it went
on for like twenty It took me at this point
back on the wal on the road. It was probably
right about thirty minutes, twenty thirty minutes. So as we're walking,
I'm sitting here. I was thinking, Okay, whatever this is,

(50:05):
it's either hungry. If something's not right. This bear can't
be right. Something's wrong. So I'm light weighing at my options.
And as I'm going down the trail, remembering I've got
a curve. It's gonna curve. It's gonna bring this ridge
whatever it's on closer to me. But if I can
shoot straight across, i'll be in the field. And if
it's gonna keep its distance, it's gonna go through the

(50:26):
bottom of that bowl of that V and come out
behind me, and then I can turn around see what
it's doing. So I'm thinking at my head, speaking out loud,
I'm thinking at my head. So I'm like, all right,
let's do this. Taking my pace a little bit, it
picks up its pace. I'm getting to where that curves
around to go around the grassy spot. As I turn,

(50:49):
I just jumped straight through the little dip. There was
a little ditch there, so I jumped through it and
I heard it crash down to the bottom of the V.
So I hurry up and rush up to the field.
So I get into the field Old and I can
hear this thing coming. It was making a little excuse me,
and it was making a lot of noise, breaking some
twigs and stuff on the ground, and I'm like, all right,

(51:09):
so what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna load my rifle.
And that whole time I ever did have around in
the chamber, just because for safety reasons. So ill right
at Old thirty thirty and I'm listening to it and
I'm just keeping my pace straight towards the truck. I'm
counting in the back of my head. I already one, two, three,
I jump around. There's nothing. I was listening to it,

(51:32):
and when I was supposed to turn around that things
should have been right there with me in the field,
but it wasn't. So the way the sun was set,
I'm just like, what in the you know? It blew?
I'm like, where'd the bear go? I'm like, where to
this bear? Just like vanish and I'm looking and I'm
like what, you know? And then I noticed something. I
could see something right in the tree line. There's something

(51:53):
just right in the tree line. The sun was in
my face at that time. It just started going down
behind the mount so it's at a very you know,
bean towards me where it's up and h I see
a black shadow go across the back side of this field.
On the backside of this field, it's kind of drop
off on the other side of that bowl, and I'm

(52:14):
washing it just go down through that bowl. I'm like, okay,
I'm done. So it's so instead of walking back out
to the trail, I just jump off the side of
the ridge to my truck. I didn't want to go
back out to the trail, so I dropped straight off
to the off the ridge down to the bottom of
the trail toward least of my truck. I'm getting my

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stuff in my truck and I hear a big old
knock way back in my way, way back behind me.
I'm like, what is going on? What was that painting?
Minded and got in the truck, left, went home. Never
did say nothing about it, nobody. I told my pipal
about it. That boy, I think it was trying to
get your honey button. That's exactly you.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Had just dropped the honey buny. It left you alone
if you just drop the honey, but it left That's
what he said. That's funny a.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Little but two weeks later it's where things got weird
because we went back up to hunt, and now bear
season had opened, and we got up there to go
hunt and everything else with the guys we bear hunt with.
And you know, normally as we do we go out
striking dogs, we put them on top of the beds
right around, say we can strike a hot hot bears
across the road. So as we're going down through where

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they strike once they start turning dogss. So this's got
these guys we call the dog guys. They got like
twenty dollars a piece. So on point in time, there's
about forty dogs in the woods that you got to
chase down eventually. So but and he's got the at
the time as a garment Astro three to twenty or
a Astro three to twenty tracking system. It had a

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tomographic map on this on an LCD screen and everything,
and you could check track the dogs in real time.
So we're watching it and you see two younger dogs
just kind of break off to the from the main
path from you know, from the race what we call
the race, and they're like, oh, now, let's let it
their puffs. They'll catch back up, they might probably jump

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the hog, they'll come back, they'll try the pack back.
So we hunt, We go around and eventually get a
bear bade up in the tree. Young kid that never
got one before he came in. We let him shoot it.
Great day, kid got his first bear. Successful time the
round up the dogs. So for the most part, most
of the dogs were there and we end up catching

(54:30):
back up. It caught back up. The one caught back
up to us right well, the other one wasn't. It
was still showing it was down there in this bottom.
So we're like, all right, well, I guess we you know,
we gotta go get him. So we get all the
other dogs rounded up, put them in the box, and
head back down. And before we went in was from
the skyway road down. You know. When I found it again,

(54:51):
I went from the other side. So we've got these
garments in our hand. We're tracking one of the dogs
at and we're looking around wh that dog should be
like right here, where's that, you know? And we're looking around.
I just happen to look down to my left and
there's this orange antenna looking thing with a black tip.

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And I start moving stuff around and beholders the dog.
It's dead. Whatever killed this dog looked like you had
taken a It's put its head between your hands, is
flapped smished it flat. And I've seen dogs get hit
pretty hard by bear. That was that was different, you know.

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Usually it hit them kind of break their skin open,
maybe break a jaw. I've seen that, you know, but flat.
And the other thing that was buried underneath shrubs, tree branches, leaves.
It's just kind of something cut something covered it.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
Up, trying to hide it.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Bear won't do that either.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
There's too lazy to do that. BlackBerry especially, So that's
that would happen four miles from where I walked up
from my what they walked out with me.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
I don't know what I'd still, aren't you glad it
didn't go? Oh yeah, that would be terrible though, I mean,
but just think about the strength that it would have
to happen.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Yeah, I mean when I we pulled this dog out
and I'm looking at it, and this dog, I mean,
it wouldn't say totally flat, but it was smushed. There's
brain matter coming out of the dog's head. I mean,
it was just all disoriated. The neck was even broken,
it was I mean, whatever, it was a smack just
flattened it, killed it and buried it under That's the

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biggest thing.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
That's crazy though, And I.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Couldn't understand it for a long time, you know, Yeah,
I don't know. But now after getting into this research
and everything, I'm like, Okay, black Beard, don't do that
at all.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
No way, there's nothing in the woods that would do that.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Nothing, No, not at all. No.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
I mean, an intelligent creature that would be like, oh, well,
you know that sucks.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
Yeah, whoops. You know evidence, we know.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
That's those people that come in the woods and came
in with those dogs, so let's cover it up. We
can't see it because they don't realize that collar what
it's for, probably, you know.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
I mean that that's the biggest things than that's how
covered up it was. It'd been one thing if it
just laying on top of the ground, never thought twice
about it. The reason it was covered up was what
was so weird?

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Yeah that's interesting.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
Yeah, and this was a walker dog, so I go there.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Yeah, it's bizarre, said dang. Sorry for the loss of
the dog.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
And that unfortunately, and that's the nature when it comes
to bear hunting dogs getting no situations. Unfortunate, but it happens.
But poor dog met a big foot that day. I think,
can you imagine having a dog running big foot? That'd
be it'd be wild.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
You would need to have something that would be able
to track really well, but like a mastiff, Yeah, like
a mastive for something, you know.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
I don't think a mastive would have a chance.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
No, but a team of masteris we can get the
new diar wolves they just come out with.

Speaker 5 (58:02):
Yes, oh they're ones they created.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Yes, he's one of them. Big foot.

Speaker 5 (58:07):
I think you should put cameras on the dogs too.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
That's a good idea. That's a very good idea. I'd
like to do that, yeah, because I think this fall
we're going to try to get back into bare hunting,
and that's a good idea. I may do that. Maybe
it'll happen again. I hope not, but maybe. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:23):
Just don't put it on the head, because.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
Well, the last thing you would see would be.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
Ye, there just need two big old hands, monstrous hands,
a smack.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
Like, hey, if you need evidence and you don't believe this,
here you go.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I just kind of think of
the sound that that would have made because we were
we were done heading down the road when these when
these two younger duck dogs broke off from the main pack, right,
we were on down the road and stuff, so we
may you know, there may have been noise whenever no
one mentioned anything, but I just think of that. It's
that noise because my I put it this way, mother Pipo.

(58:58):
He's a Baptist practice preacher, and Lord, that man's got
hands on him. They can clap and wake up the
neighbors across the street. I mean, this guy gets it
and just runs the pews, spits out his dentures and
keeps on going, I'm fired. Yeah, that type of guy.
But I take that into reference. I'm like, what just
what kind of sound what that would have made? You know,
you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
It's und would have been a crazy sound, crazy crack yeah, yeah,
and then er yeah mm hmm. That would have been
in there somewhere.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
Of course with Janis, Carter talks that they the actual
tree knocks. There's not them hitting sticks against the tree.
It's their hands, she says, from what she has deserved
of them, and talk to him about they clap their hands,
make that noise was vocal, but that's that's that. Yeah,
she's mentioned that as well. They kind of like pop
their tongue.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Yeah, because I can Yeah yeah, yeah, do you hear
that would not.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
So?

Speaker 5 (59:56):
Oscar says, all cats will bury. They're eating food.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Cat man.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
Half cat, half sasquatch half dog.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
That I know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
But that's a lot of halves. That must be a
hole and a half.

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
Was that like, that's a half in a hole?

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
What is that off the south part of bear man pig?

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
That's right, Yeah, that's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
Now that would that There was some stories speaking of
a cat, you know that thought of something There was
this woman on TikTok that was saying she was having
this creature run around her house, and she lived in
North Georgia or something like that. She was having this
feline looking creature that was up on two legs running
around her house. It was acting like a cat, would

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you know, make all sorts of noises like cat, but
had this weird feature of a head, had the rounded
head like a cat cat, eyes that could move, and
had the midsection of a man cad. You imagine seeing
something like that outside your house.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Was that movie? I would be getting a shotgun, so
I'd be doing And I.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Tried doing research on it. I found some other people
have There's not a whole lot on it, and I
kind of dug into it and thinks she was describing
or would line up with the other ones. I don't
know if that's something too. I don't know if anybody's
ever heard of the catman. Never So No, that was
a new one for me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Obally over stock, Oscar says, maybe it's a shape shift.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
A very skin walker windwalker.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Okah, that makes sense now, I can understand that one.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
The woman thinks that it was running around her house
and spraying like a cat and everything else. That's what
she said.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Huh, it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
I'm just I'm just reading off right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Yeah, No, that's yeah. I'm just sitting here trying to
process that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
It's like, okay, yeah, was it like a human size?

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
That's what she said, if I remember correctly, she just
growd it being six and a half seven feet tall,
right in that six foot seven foot range, but had
very masculine looks to it, but also had the features
of a cat. And I think she don't ever think
she ever mentioned a tail. That's one thing that I'd
wondered about, but no one ever in these reports I've read,

(01:02:18):
Like I said, there's only like three or two or
three or.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
I've never read anything about saying about a tale. But
the safe shape shifter idea, that's very very good.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Idea, Yeah, because then you probably wouldn't get a tail,
right exactly. That that makes a lot of sense when
you put the shape shifter, I think to it, But gosh,
that would though.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Yeah, and the you know the story of the skin walker,
you have to kill the animal and put its height
on him, thinking poor cats, Yes, what kind of stuff it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Puts the.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
Cats? I'm not a cat.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Yeah, we've got one. We rescued her when she was
a baby, and it was like we had chickens, Like
she's gonna be a barn cat.

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
Now now she's a house cat.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
She's a house cat. She's actually made one kill though.
She's got us a rat outside. She left it for
a little president outside.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
Wait till they leave it in your shoes. I was
just about with the head half eat off when you're
sitting there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
Yeah, it can't come in from outside without us saying it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
When we have she would used to bring in the
back half, not the front half. She usually brought in
the back half. And I found one in my shoe
one time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
You don't about being I right now says two kills,
two killed, that's right, got another, got a mold this morning,
this afternoon.

Speaker 5 (01:03:43):
My my cat's a ace. So she's a little older.
She's about four years old. Yeah that's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Oh yeah, cat man.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
Cat man, that'd be something see not.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Really Yeah, I don't know. I mean because my mom
would be like, what is this. It's like a before
I started hearing a lot about dog man, I was
in that same field and that same thing. I was
just like, yeah, No's see.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
That's a subject that I want to learn more about
in our area. I'm not taking a lot of reports
or heard of a lot of ports of dog Man
in our area. I would love. I have a hard
time with dog Man. Yeah, I believe in befit, but
I have a hard time with dog Man a lot
of ways, just with the things that add up to
it and what happens with it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Susan Eddie's wife has seen one for herself story and
so I'm like, I believe you're telling me the truth,
you know, so I believe that they exist. So I'm
sitting there like, now what do I do? Because it's
like this is just weird because you get two different
explanations for these things too, because some of them are

(01:05:02):
almost like a human human legs the whole nine yards
just with a dog head, almost like what you would
see in ancient Egypt, and you know, yeah, and then
you get the one that has the haunches of a
dog with the dog head and everything. So it's like
there's two different species or is the one just to

(01:05:24):
miss identified bigfoot? You know?

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
I think the whole thing with dog Man, in a
way is more demonish than anything. Yeah, but then you
get these reports and these stories from people. It don't
hurt them. It's just kind of like a bigfoot scares
them away, shoes away and whatnot. There's not nothing land
between the lakes that's beside. That's where I's going now,
Land between the lakes. Now it's got that terror. You
know Martin Groves story. I've looked that man in the

(01:05:48):
face and he's told me that story, and it's it
hits you, like now we.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Got to see him at the Bigfoot Festival.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
Yeah, and and everything's such a great guy. Yeah, bless
his heart, and he's it and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
He's not doing good right now. Yeah, so everybody think
about him. But yeah, I mean, we want to go
to the land between the lakes.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
I want to go. That reminds me. I've got just
in the last two three months, a buddy of mine
at work was telling me about how some stories that
come out of Land between the Lakes. So we'll start
off with a swimming dog man. Yes, so yeah, So

(01:06:31):
the story goes a couple of people's running into this
not a whole lot from what I understand, that they
were fishing this one slew and everything because it had
the best fish and whatnot. Well, this one night, these
group of guys kept hearing this howl come off the
ridge off to one off the other way from them
and didn't know what it was. Well, all of a sudden,
they said, this creature just burst out of the woods,

(01:06:54):
this dog like massive creature just in full fury and
jumps off in the water and starts swimming after him
and they and the way the story goes, they're trying
to fumble around and get this boat started and get
out of there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
That sounds like a scariest movie, you know, like I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
Get the kid. They said, they get it, and I
mean they just hit it right off and just took off.
It was in like a flat bottom John boat and
they just took off. And there was a similar story
of it happening it again to somebody else. And but
at this time, the way that story goes, it kind
of went underneath the boat and come out the other side. Yeah.

(01:07:34):
That was that when I heard like a little film
because my buddy was talking about So I started doing
researching it and that's what I found out that there's
these two or three encounters like that that's whistling Jack's
out there in that area. So because a buddy of
mine grew up on Mount Eagle and that his daddy
always talked about whistling jack. You start hending the whistle's boy,

(01:07:55):
you bur come in well.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
And you know, back in the day, a lot of
the old people say, if you're out in the woods,
don't be whistling. Do not whistle in the woods because
the whistlejack will get you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
You know. Yeah, Pipe always said, don't work them boogers
will get you. Them burgers will come out and get you.
And then my buddy of mine, his dad was a
coon hunter, and you know he would used to tell
me ba his coon hunt stories because I used to
coon hunt quite a bit and everything else. Well, they
said there's been out there a couple one time that

(01:08:26):
he said his dad wasn't there, but they come back
and told him. So it's like a third fourth count,
you know, person story right right at this point. So
they go out the coon hunt this one night in
that area. I think it wasn't Land between the lakes
if I remember correctly. They go out land between the
lakes and coon hunt like they have done before, and
they start, you know, hollering for the dog as time

(01:08:47):
go let's get the dogs back. Well, dogs wouldn't answering,
they wouldn't coming back. And this is probably in your
early forties and fifties and stuff like that. They didn't
have no call, don't tracking collars, probably old burnt light
and everything else. So they're out there trying to get
their dogs and as they're going through the woods, they

(01:09:07):
come up on steaks with these dogs heads on it. Yeah,
that happened. I got to digging into that and I
found that same story on a forum on the internet
and everything. That's and there's other people saying, yeah, my
granddaddy told me the same thing happened to then when
his best coon dogs got its head ripped off put on.

Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
Steak the predator.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
That's crazy. That's like, don't come here exactly. That's a statement.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Oh yeah, and a lot of and we'd a lot
of weird stuff happened like that over towards Monteagle Mountain
plumb over to you know, land between the lakes. That
seemed like Land between the Lakes is the worst. I
mean obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Yeah, I want to try to get the same person
that got me the other information. Yeah, I want to
see if he can get me some information about the
missing people from there because they won't give it to nobody.
Martin Groves, everybody says that they can't get it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
No, even David Pilate's it's tried to offer men's of
dollars to get the purports. This won't get They keep
jacking at the price. Why why do you want not
want us to know? It's just a weird, weird coincidence,
very weird. And you know there's a lot of campgrounds
they're closed now too. Jesse and Joe from hell Bey Holler.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
I watched their show quite a bit.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Oh yeah, I love They're great people. I love talking
to them stuff. Yeah, and they explored some of the
campgrounds that were closed off in the band and stuff
like that. Now I've got an app on my phone
called on ex hunting app that hesme show property line
stuff like that. There's certain markers on that app that
tells you what this is. There's four or five, as

(01:10:46):
I last time I checked, areas that are red line
and yellow line, which means it's restricted to personnel other
than military government official. So so why would you want
to exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
And is that the same area that Martin Groves had
his experience.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
That's why i'd like to know. Well, actually two of
them were one dock. That's uh, most of them are docks.
That's the weird part. Maybe it's construction. I don't know.
I'm not there, but a lot of them are docks
and stuff like that and resemble those areas. But the
one where he talks about he went to the devil's backbone,
there is one big one that's not far from the
devil's backbone. So, and they don't tell me how long

(01:11:27):
have they been closed down, but they are the last
time I looked.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Mm. That's that's interesting. Very I don't even know when
they're when the campground's open, if it closes or anything
like that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
I have no idea, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Is we're wanting to go somewhere when it gets a
little cooler, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
I know daring for July because I've just seen them
post about it. They have a laser light show. That
would be something to go. I need to go out
there in the middle of the woods, and while they're
doing that, see what all comes to be curious?

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
You know, any time to have your thermal and everything.

Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
I know that there's a place I want to go.
When we go there, it's called Hotel California. It's see
old house, so I forget whose house it was, but
it's weird, weird house built right in the middle of
the woods.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
I want to see all them concreteuse like not outhouses,
but them little bunker looking things and see what those
areas about, because not far from those areas where Jess
and Joe from help it holler, caught that thermal. Have
you seen that video that thought caught that thermal with
this very large canine head peeking over a ridge that
would have had it been a creature's six to seven
feet tall, see over right. That just just blows your mind. Yes,

(01:12:41):
so I'd hate to see that through a thermal. I
sound like a tough man, but I see something. I run.
I ain't gonna lie to you almost start slinging around
or something.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
I'm I'm the opposite. I'm the run too.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Yeah, I'm always just I'm so interested in it. I'm
just let's.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
Not me.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Jason's Jason's the opposite of me. That's your your, your
person that brings you down. Jason is my He's the
guy who ground ground.

Speaker 5 (01:13:14):
I'll go, I'll back you up. I'll be way in
back of you. It's like you up, yeah, hey, Bob,
And Copper Hill is in is in Copper Hill, Copper Hill.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
It's like I've told my buddies and stuff, and so
I don't have to run what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
I just have to run you yes, the triple and
just keep running.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
Of course with I've got a buddy, and I don't
think I'm giving away too much sensitive information, but I've
got a buddy that did's how do I put this
black flag stuff? So we've always we've had this biggest scrap.
It's actually the guy helped me find ourcane discoveries. But
you know, none of us really have the time to

(01:13:57):
do a lot of stuff like we want to. But
we always had this big plan. What would we do
in land between the lakes? Our big go out plan
was to use some of those assets he had available,
I think still and uh use it to get a
body removed from there, because there's an air Force base
not too far within some anonyical miles parish. When the

(01:14:20):
paraschute planes that picks up from the ground and get
it out. So it's been very well planned to put
together yeah, yeah, to find a crazy he'll billy he
still knows of where it has. BMG's really I would
do it. Yeah, that would do it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
That would do it. Yeah, he's driving that BMG. And
if you do, then I'm running. Yeah, that's all it's
You'll see nothing from me.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
It'll be That's what he said. He said, if it
surprises a BMG round, he said, I'm either gonna run
or calling airsport. I'm on nap place Vietnam.

Speaker 5 (01:14:56):
So Bob says he was thinking about going to the
start of the okoy the river at the pull off
overlook and maybe see some UFOs tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Oh, there's been some lights reported there before, say, similar
to some of the lights I've seen on Cherokee. On
my side. Over here in Merrie County, there'll be like
these red or green dots in the sky and they'll
just run around like crazy, and they won't be stationary.
It looks like a laser porn is what it is.
But they're moving so erratic. It's und they're here here,

(01:15:29):
they're here, and they're up and down sideway, zigzag at
an angle and everything else. They're moving rapidly and then
there's poof gone. I know a lot of people that
has seen that, and myself included. I know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Eddie and Susan when they came on, they had some
video from their house of some UFOs and those things were,
oh yeah, bricking amazing, Like you see it come in
and the things just sitting there kind of blinking, and
it's setting in one spot forever, and then it just
starts moving and that stops, and then at one point

(01:16:05):
it breaks, like two of them break off from each
other and one goes one way and one kind of
goes the other. You're like, uh, that's oh yeah, that's
not natural. Planes don't break apart and fly away. They
break apart fall.

Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
If anybody's interested in being in polk Canty does some digging,
all you need to do is go sit at the
where everybody gets out from where they float from web store,
sitting that parking lot for a little while. If you
don't get run off, sitting in that parking lot for
a little while, tell me what you hear. I've heard
some very sinister noise come from the woods around it,
really very yes, like it just it freaks me out

(01:16:41):
even thinking about it. I've seen there's that little cat
not a cap like little story at the bottom deck there.
I've seen faces in those windows. I've heard heard something.
It's like someone walking down the Trust, the railroad Trust
that's beating the far out of it. And the worst one.
We were sitting there one night and over our conversation,
I have my friend and my wife and his girlfriend

(01:17:02):
at the time, we're all having a conversation. This laughing
kids laughing, two sets of kids, like you can tell,
two kids starts overpowering us coming from the ridge on
the home upper side of the road, and we just stopped, like,
what is going on? Why is there kids? It's like
two or three o'clock at not it wasn't that late,
but it's like midnight, and it was kids playing in

(01:17:23):
the woods. And that laughter went from laughing to screaming,
bloody murder. And I when was this at the web
store at the Trust where everybody gets out.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Bob Gray says, we do have the big Foot Museum
in Blue Ridge.

Speaker 6 (01:17:42):
Yeah, so now, yeah, plus the Higgen hotels there, and
it's it's I've heard that it's pretty haunted.

Speaker 4 (01:17:54):
It's not necessary. A lot of the main thing that
comes out of that. People sneak into and look around.
You can get permission because the whole Heagdon family is
like they have an actual society together because it was
a big part of that area. But if you get
permission and go in, people might have heard chains being
drug through the floors, knots coming through the windows, and

(01:18:16):
I've seen I've been through and seen faces through the
windows of middle of night. Just catch a glimpse of
it here to see Jason to get in. Yeah, yeah,
I think there's there's some, most of them stiff like
so the actually have a website, the Heidn't family or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
How far up to the It's not far.

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
It's right off side of the road. Like when you
if you're a web store, right, if you're looking at
the store and you turn and look, there's the hotel.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
They have the internet there. We would be able to
do a live then.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
I mean, would your phone work there.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
I'm trying to think if there's some it's been a
long time so I've been down there. There may be
a little bit of service now with ways, you know, if.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Their service, we could do a live yeah, investigation. Yeah,
I would be amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
I've always wanted to go. I ain't never been in there.
I've always wanted to. I've been by and I know kind.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
Of money and let you know if we can get
if we get in, if you want to go.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
Oh yeah, definitely. I've passed that thing so many times,
like what are you inside? What do you just like?
And I've seen photos. It's very weird. So it's like
even the old school and Sweetwater here, I'd like to going.
I've heard story after story coming up from that place.

Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
TMG or TM. I used to be TM.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
Iye, I heard that it's starting to fall apart on
the inside that place.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
I'm sure it is. It's old. Yeah, my brother in
law a long time ago, they got into it and
went in there, and there's this one hallway and they said,
as they come to the hallway, there's multiple classrooms and
stuff down through where I about jumped at that because
I'm telling a ghost story and I did not know
what that was anyway. So they're standing there at this hallway.

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The next thing I know, doors starts slamming all the
way down and there's one classroom at the very end.
They said it just slowly shut like someone was looking
around it, just like oh not today, And then they left,
but they said the other doors down the hall just
slamming back and you know, getting shut. But the other
one at the end, he didn't mention a shadow, he
says the person he was seeing a shout at that

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door at the end, but it just kind of slowly shut.
So I won. Ever since I've heard that, I'm like, yeah,
I want to go in there.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
I be able to get I would like to get
permission to be able to go.

Speaker 5 (01:20:32):
I've been in there used too, when I mean they
had done closed it down, but they had opened up
a gym in there, had a big their big Olympic
sized swimming pool. So I went in there to the
gym and stuff. It's it's pretty spooky just in that part,
is it. Because they got these rooms where the weight
room was. It was just like a block room. Oh,

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it was pretty wild.

Speaker 4 (01:20:56):
I didn't ever see the old Edawa Community Center community
center where it used to be in like middle town,
not Middletown, but like the residential area. That was a
very sketchy play old school to be in. Multiple people
I have friends that lived around it and they would
tell me all the time, Ah, we've seen a face
in the window with this weird, very weird room. I

(01:21:17):
mean very weird building. We used to play. There's no
basketball aren in there, and we used to play in it,
and there's every time we went in there. Don't know
what it was, but there was this weird object hanging
in the ceiling and there was a lot pointed at it.
Every time you went in there to play basketball and
looked straight up the center to go a center of
the floor, there's that whatever it was in the ceiling.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
It's the weirdest thingesting.

Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
Even the the bathrooms were weird to me. It looked
like the surrounding was vibrating, like you can see it
vibrating around you. There's this weird green color and you
could see it like vibrating. It was really weird. This
is a really weird place. They tore it down a
few years back. I'm like, hmm loose, Yeah, was what

(01:22:03):
was trapped? Yeah? Exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
Yeah, that's interesting, was it?

Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
He says? Today, Bob says he's found figured out how
to trap a UFO. I'd like to hear that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Yeah, that'd be interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
Yeah, do a emp on it or something. I've thought
about going up to Buck Bald setting up a array
of instruments and to see I don't know if there's
a way maybe you won't know. Is there a way
you could broadcast a signal like maybe a certain gigaherts

(01:22:35):
and see what responds, because even like I said, you know,
talking about the lines of stuff, people report him out there.
I haven't been up the very well. I've actually never
been the buck Bald. Believe it or not, I've never
been up there, but I've always ever since I've learned
about it, I've always wanted to go up there and
set up a ray of tools and see what you
can find, you know, film here or whatever. I think

(01:22:55):
that would be very enter especially if you can do
the signal.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
I've seen where h people have a program on their
on the like a laptop and then have a nice
speaker system that could handle that. Yeah, so you know,
push something out really good.

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:23:13):
You know you see it on Skinwalker Ranch all the
time where they're broadcasting that frequency.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Yeah. I think they're doing it through like a radio wave.
I don't know if it's necessarily sound, but I think
they're doing it through like a radio wave. It kind
of be like a ham radio. I would I would
imagine it's very if you could figure out how to
tune it to channel had to put out something through
the air. Maybe that's how they're doing it in a way,
but more easier for them. You know, they've got funds
for it. But I thought maybe a Ham radio would

(01:23:41):
be a good way to do that, because even my
little small Ham radio is I can program a certain
hurts int it to use it. I use them for
hunting stuff like that, and on the channel we used
to hunt with. So it just makes you think, if
you could do that that one point six one point
whatever you want to do, see what happens.

Speaker 5 (01:23:57):
I know a lot of these these people that claim
to to call UFOs to them and stuff. They use meditation,
and they meditate and I guess they might play some
kind of frequency. I don't know, but see five but thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
To group Yeah five, that's that's what's his name, Richard Gear, Yeah,
doctor Richard Career.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
Yeah. If you think think about it, vibration and everything
else through you know, radio waves and hurts and everything
else is a big energy for him. Your I mean,
you're given off energy. You're we're all in this room
giving off vibrant energy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
And things we think that's enaminated animate are doing the
same exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
So that's just more fuel to the fire. If we
can do that, if you can take it, magnify that,
there ain't no telling what you could power around you.

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
So that's how you can walk through walls and stuff too.
If we could change our frequency.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
Are you have to do is match the frequency of
that wall? Yeah, just walk right through.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
That's wild.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
How do you do it?

Speaker 4 (01:25:07):
Humans at one point in time was probably able to
do that. Yeah, we're so domesticated now we don't even
use their full power or brain.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
I mean most people have tender feet and can he
walk barefooted outside? So I mean anything else, you know,
I mean whatever. I'm surprised we could even swim, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
Yeah, four too long, will be floating around our own
chairs and everything. Yes, we done got handed that with COVID.

Speaker 5 (01:25:35):
So so Bob says, uh, the trap a UFO. He says,
it's taken forever, but it's following navy protocols. That makes
sense because I know they they they see a lot

(01:25:55):
of them. I don't know if they trap them, but
they they have a lot of encounters can track them trap.

Speaker 4 (01:26:02):
Yeah. I just wonder how they would do that. These
things are moving at such a magnitude far more advanced
than what we have currently at this date. That'd be
interesting to see or read and know how they do that.

Speaker 5 (01:26:15):
Have you ever had a big UFO syiting m hmmm.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
Honestly, I can say I have it, like maybe I
can't think say I have. That's one thing I've probably
not run into now, just saying that I've been on
my way home, Here come a saucer for me.

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
I had a buddy of mine that his sister and
her son, and he was I think, he said, I
don't know five six seven at the time, our son
was and they was going out towards Polecat back to
their mama's house. And you know where that one road
kind of curves back and then you look down they

(01:26:53):
started building, well, they put in a road and then
put in a cul de sac, but at the back
of that there's a Indian mound and so they never
was able to build there.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
Well, so she was coming around that curve and she said,
she's before she got to where it opened up, it
looked like a laser light show, like some of them
had a big party going on or something there. Really,
and she said, as they come around, they seen this
thing that was I think they said like a football

(01:27:26):
field size, really just sitting there. Yeah, and she says,
as she comes around this thing, the lights went off
and it tilted up just like this and went up
above her and then went and was gone.

Speaker 4 (01:27:41):
See, I've heard two or three other stories, just like
at my other brother in law. He actually him and
his family experienced something very similar that. As you're going
they used to live off one and go up for
the dragon. They had the very same thing happened there
as they's going home one night. And I've heard one
other part one or the other two people similar to that.
Like had guy tell me about a Geriedo shaped what

(01:28:02):
he's seen. So he said it had like a Gerido shape.
It had two lights on the sides of it, but
he could make out the black mass of it as
it was going up the up the into the sky
as well.

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
Now I had a landlord. It's been a long time ago,
but he claimed that he was abducted. And I'm serious.
He was very serious about it. I mean I think
he was even on a show in New York about
or was going to be or something like that. But

(01:28:36):
his name was Eddie and he's from around here, so
he used to mow a lot of churchyards and stuff,
and that was his business side business. But he told
me that he was mowing down at Prospect Church, the graveyard,
and that he he said this ship. He didn't he

(01:28:57):
didn't tell me what it looked, what was shape it was,
but he said this, He called it the mother ship.
He said it come down and did a ninety degree turn.
And the next thing he woke up and had all
this lost time. And he swears he showed me the
scar and his belly button. He said they put something
in his belly button.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
Really, that's interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:29:19):
And he was been able to see orbs in his
house since then, and all kinds of crazy things has
happened to him. But he swears up and down that's
what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
I believe him.

Speaker 4 (01:29:32):
I tend to kind of stay away from that subject
because here, and I've got it all written in this notebook.
I did some research on Nephelin and stuff like that,
and I might have a theory that Hitler could have
been a possible Nefhil just because yeah, Nepheline were described

(01:29:52):
to be giants, that'd be huge people. But if you
think about it over time, Genetix is going to take
over and eventually you're going to not have the large
person anymore. But this research led to that. It led
to me finding out these an you Knaki were sound
very similar to our Grays and whatever else like that

(01:30:14):
they're here for knowledge or to make something or to
make it better and stuff like that. And I did
like a huge deal. I've got three or four pages
in this notebook of just you know, one thing after
another and how it leads to the Bible and everything
else and ancient Mesopotamia. So when I started down my
oh gosh, okay, it's kind of worried me a little bit.

(01:30:35):
And that's another one of things I have. I ain't
gonna say it's not real, but I have a hard
time with it. But just because in my way I
was raised in the Baptist Church and stuff like that,
that was the devil pretty much anything Pipewa was telling me.
If it ain't in the Bible, it ain't true, because
I'll never forget. When I got the nerve to ask

(01:30:55):
that man if Bigfoot was mentioned in the Bible, I
thought he was gonna run right through me.

Speaker 5 (01:31:02):
Actually, there's a lot of things that was took out.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Of the Bible.

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
You're right, You're exactly right.

Speaker 5 (01:31:06):
That should have been in it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
But like the Book of Enoch and all the other stuff,
when you talk.

Speaker 5 (01:31:12):
About the anuw Naki, I do believe they were here
from somewhere else, and they did give us the knowledge,
and they probably engineered humans.

Speaker 4 (01:31:25):
I think genetically did something. I've always thought that they
were part of the falling when God cast the angels out.
They were part of the falling. Yeah, and they came
with the knowledge and everything that they knew and started
putting their own little spin because they wanted to be worshiped.
And what was one of their biggest thing was gold. Yeah,
and you know, they had a thing for gold and

(01:31:45):
stuff like that, and they wanted to be worshiped, and
they wanted to be looked at, and they had these
craft and everything else, you know, And it just builds
up to a lot of stuff on down the road.

Speaker 5 (01:31:56):
So I think they went out and were putting different
plays or went to different places. And that's why you
got the Mayan Pyramids. You got pyramids all over the world.

Speaker 4 (01:32:06):
Oh yeah, everywhere.

Speaker 5 (01:32:09):
It's got a different little twist, but it's the same story.
I just think there's a big connection in all the
the Maya and the Egyptians and all of that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
Everybody's cross.

Speaker 5 (01:32:27):
The mound builders, they they I mean, it's just I
believe it's all connected.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
Oh yeah, that is, they've all intermingled at one point
in time. Yeah. Absolutely, It's like I was mentioning today,
I'd heard a story. I've heard it a couple of times.
They said that Cherokee talked of a You may know
the story better than I do, but they talked of
a healer to come from the far East. In the
way it was ascribed to me, in the way that
guy kind of translates was they could have been Jesus possibly.

(01:32:53):
You know, there's a lot of Jesus life that was
not documented. Who knows. And then if you look at
all the floods, the mud floods, every thing, they all
the society, all the societies that live talk about somebody
coming to show them the way they all talk about
the flood. They all talk about somebody helping them and
everything else. So I mean, who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Yep, the Moonlight people were some of the Lord from
the churchy Oh yeah, yeah, but yeah, you have most
cultures around the world that talk about the ones who
came after the flood and they all restarted civilization. They

(01:33:36):
taught usually planting, and all kinds of different things that
they taught them. Usually taught them. The stars taught them
all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
Yeah, we've all intermingled somewhere and there. Someone did some
research one time, and I read up on it that
they was dating back, like they're trying to prove the
evolution of man through monkeys and all that. Right. Well,
in the studies they said they could see the mother
side was human, but the father's side was unknown. Yep.

(01:34:04):
Like a lot with your big Foot DNA and everything else,
it's unknown. We don't know who it is. They don't
know what it is. It's no record of it. So
it just, I mean, everything lines up together. It sounds
like to make everybody you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
That's what I think is funny about the big Foot DNA.
It always comes up that same way every time.

Speaker 4 (01:34:23):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:34:23):
I think that's the story of the Virgin. When poor
a virgin, I mean, come on, something put something in
her artificial artificially, yeah, artificial. Yeah, it makes sense. It

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comes together.

Speaker 4 (01:34:45):
It just depends on how deep you want to go
on this stuff. How far you wanna go down the
rabbit hole?

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
You know, rabbit holes are fun. I do like them. Yeah,
you just gotta have time. Yeah, a lot of time.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
Yeah, I've been several nights just like, wow, look at this,
Well it goes well that, you know. So it's like
I got on one before I came here, talking about
tom Seawood of the First Nations. He put out a
little thing talking about the big Foot and burying their
dead and how they would bury them or put them
in caves and everything else, like behind it, there's a

(01:35:19):
whole I've got a whole big section on it. I
put in my phone today. But it's pretty interesting. Yeah,
so they put the big question it was, well, what
happens when people come along and run into the bones water?
They pick them up and move them, but I don't know,
it's a big deep dive and we get off from too.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
Next the same thing we would do, you know, like
if if people came in and then started trying to
settle in a graveyard, we're gonna be like, ah, yeah,
move these over, you know, right, yeah, we'll fight them off, right,
rocks at them, scream around them.

Speaker 4 (01:35:58):
Yeah, it's like.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
You're messing with my grandpa there, you know. But it
makes sense to me that they would bury their dead.
It does because if they stay in family groups and
stuff like that, it would show that they would have
that type of thinking of of of the afterlife and
whatever else and laying something to rest. And then I

(01:36:21):
think it would be on the other side of it too.
How do you stay hidden? You can't find me if
I bury this person that died or this you know,
my whatever that die, if we bury it and it
makes it to where you can't stumble across it, right exactly,
So you could go either side of that one.

Speaker 4 (01:36:41):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
That card common.

Speaker 5 (01:36:50):
So you got anything else.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
Anything in my mind?

Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
I mean, I've got my whole notebook full of stuff
and whatever you want to hear.

Speaker 5 (01:37:02):
We got probably enough time for one more. We got
what we got about twenty two minutes, twenty three minutes.
But we don't want to go over that tube, so
we can get some you know generations.

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
Yes, good, I don't know. We can talk about my
incidents in jeffreys Hell. Yeah, yeah, so all right, jeffries Hell.
The whole story behind it is that this old man
by the name of Ebenezer Jeffrey and his famous hound Blue.
We're one of the best of the best coon hunters

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of this area. About one hundred years ago, now a
little over one hundred years ago, like everybody knew who
they were. Well before it was what it is now
that Cheche National Forest and all the other stuff in
City Coo and known as City Cooe. They made their
own little trail that they would go in coon hunt.
It was their honey hole right. Well, at the same

(01:37:58):
time all this is happening, the railroad was being built.
Log excuse me, the real road was being built. Logs
were being removed. I can't remember the name of the
company that was like a town there at one point
time moving the logs. But all of them were there,
and so was one night Jeffrey and then were off

(01:38:20):
in the woods and two of his friends. This way
story goes, they were there and the mountain had caught
on fire, and they decided they were still gonna hunt
a little bit. Well, they get a little too far
in and the fire started started growing and more. And
it is quoted that Jeffrey said, I rather go to
Hell than to lose my dog. So at that point

(01:38:43):
in time, this story goes two different ways. I've heard
it two different ways. Either he ran off after Blue,
his friends went out to wait on him, where he
went home and told his wife, I'm going back for
my dog. I've heard it both ways. That is kind
of like to mention that, because I'm sure everybody else has.
So Jeffrey goes looks for his dog camp and did

(01:39:04):
they the friends lose sight, They lose him, he's gone.
Eventually the next day, the friends are back at the
trail head where they had made and outsteps Blue. So
Blue was standing there, just a wine and a barking
and everything else, you know, like, hey, maybe we need
to go follow him. So they follow Blue off down

(01:39:24):
the trail which is now Jeffrey's Hell Trail. And as
they going down through where they lose sight of Blue.
Right the opening of this very small cave and the
whole mount had been burnt like to a char It
had been gone. There's no as far as I know,
there's no evidence of the two being found at all.

(01:39:44):
It's thought that they just perished into it with the
fire and died. So legend has it, you can go
up there one night while your cane hunting to pass
through and you'll hear Jeffrey holler for his dog Blue
and Blue just barking right away. But orbs. I've seen
orbs come along with that, so really, oh yeah. So

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for instance, one night we were up there and there
was this We was off coon hunting at the ball
on the other's bottom side, because you know, it's a
barris are. So he was down towards fire gap actually,
and on the way back up, you know, we had
our dogs and stuff with us, and the way back
up game warn stops us. He's like, Hey, what do
y'all do in coon hunting? Back here? This is a

(01:40:27):
bear reserve. I said, sir, we just come off the
fire fire gap over here and stuff hunting and everything.
We ain't been over here. Hey said, oh, I've been
hearing you. I've been sitting up here at the boundary
and said I've heard yous. I've got you now. I
said that kind of chuckle. I said, Hi, you've been
hearing Jeffrey and Blue. He said that old story you
believe in that. I'm like, well, you know, I've seen

(01:40:48):
some things that look like ors makes them out look
like they're on fire. You get up to them and
get pretty close to them, they just poof disappear. So
but this particular night, we're standing there in the middle
of this and he's asking us all sorts of questions,
and next thing you know, you hear off in the
distance to our right, and I looked at him. He said,
y'all good to go. I run into him in town

(01:41:13):
about two or three weeks later, and I asked him, said, hey,
did you catch that dog? He said, I don't want
to talk about it. I try to guess what you say.
He said, I don't want talk about it. He said,
I'm gonna get you from where I won't give you
a ticket if you keep on. I'm like, I'm just
asked you a question, dude. We're not even the mountains,
but a lot of things happen there with orbs. And
you can hear Jeffrey holler for his dog. You can

(01:41:34):
hear Blue barking. A lot of times. You'll see a
blue you know, blue orb and that's normally either Jeffrey
or Blue running through the woods. And I've seen like this,
like this flashing red looks like fire, and you'll seem like,
oh my god, the mountains on fire, and go over
and look and there's nothing there. It's gone just poof

(01:41:55):
into mid air. You just smell smoke, you smell fire
everything else when they the orbs are around, and it's
usually off that right at the top of Monkey what
we call Monkey Holler. I just you know, there's trail
one oh five. You take trail one oh five and
go down through her and it'll break to the left
and that go takes you off in the Jeffreys Hill trail.
It's beautiful trail, lovely trail, right, but you can be

(01:42:18):
off her in the middle of the night and you
can hear Jeffrey holler even at the road, the main road.
I've heard it and seen the orbs say.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
It's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
How far is the trail to the to the so
I'd have to look it back up, so from I
will say, from the road to the end of Jeffreys
because it's just a little branch. It don't make a
full circle. It's like a little branch from the road
to the end and back. It's like a seven and
a half eight mile round trip. So it's how far

(01:42:46):
it is off in there. It's beautiful off and I
ain't been off in there forever. You come to think
of it, I just want to take the kids and
the wife off in there, telling my pipe up. But
he said, don't take them in there. Do not like
why he said, just don't you leave them out of there.
That's fine, you went, but do not take him back.
Just leave them out of it. I'm like, coming from

(01:43:08):
the man that don't really gives me a lot of
crap for believing in this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
Yeah, you know that's funny though, because that would seem
to be a residual haunting.

Speaker 4 (01:43:18):
You know, Yeah, several people have run into something up
or you can hear the like that song and that
little clip I made, you know today and since y'all
yeah it it talks about a hot summer night. It
don't have to be a hot summer night. It can
be anything. It be snowing on the ground. You'll hear
them out there. I mean, it's just I haven't heard
it in a long time. I wouldn't mind experiencing again.

(01:43:38):
But it's pretty neat because it's just a ghostly yell
coming from the woods and it's just like blue blue
and it's just like what in the world I mean,
telling them I gives me And then every night again
you hear out old dog bark and it just echoes.
And then every night again you see the glow of
the wards running through the top of the name only

(01:44:00):
stand on the top of the ridge. They're usually not
a whole lot down the bottom. If you see the
blue one, they're across the top. The red ones are
usually in the bottoms. So yeah, and to be scooting
long fewer and you'll smell smoking fire and hear the dog.

Speaker 3 (01:44:14):
That's cool.

Speaker 4 (01:44:15):
Oh yeah, I love it. I ain't been up in forever.
I'd like to go back, need to, well, I have
to do that sometimes. And actually, kind to think of it,
the trail one oh five is not far from where
I've seen that thing last Friday? Is it? That the
trail had for one o five is probably half a
mile from the entrance to that so down that road.

(01:44:37):
So that's the weird quincidence now to think about it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
And that's a lot of things happening in one area.

Speaker 4 (01:44:42):
It's a very active area, very that whole side of mountain.
Of course, I've always heard stories and ranch, yeah, the
stories of serpents laying with other serpents that ain't supposed
to be laying with one another, just in logs and
stuff that's in that area too.

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
Hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:45:00):
Yeah, I've heard that. Yeah, I've heard that a lot.
I've not seen it, but I've heard it a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:45:07):
So mm hmm. They're talking about like poisonous and non
poisonous tuffe pretty much.

Speaker 4 (01:45:13):
Yeah, like rattlesnakes, laying of black snakes or garter snakes
or green snake, you know, stuff like that. You know,
copper heads laying with them. They're all intermingled in logs.
I've heard a story where a guy lived up a
log and there's all sorts of species of snakes and
entangled with the one.

Speaker 5 (01:45:25):
Another autumn more.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
That's why it burnt, Yeah, exactly, That's why I got
on fire.

Speaker 4 (01:45:35):
Now we know.

Speaker 5 (01:45:38):
Oh yeah, well Steven, glad you came on.

Speaker 4 (01:45:42):
I'm glad you had me.

Speaker 3 (01:45:43):
What to do it again? Sometimes yeah, definitely, Yeah, I
have to go out sometimes, Oh yeah, definitely.

Speaker 5 (01:45:49):
I don't know if I can make it seven miles,
you got this. I have to take a break or two.

Speaker 4 (01:45:54):
We can get bikes, get e bikes right off under
their aloud now yeah are they Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:46:00):
Used to you, but be able to be a can
so you buck there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:46:04):
I had to go off in there and do some
ricon and make sure it's not rough because it wasn't.
It wasn't real rough back in the day, but it
might be now. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:46:12):
Been on how good they're keeping up the trails and stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:46:14):
Yeah, just have to do some recon look all right,
So we've had Stephen watching on the show tonight, and
I hope everybody enjoyed it. Awesome story, no idea, thank you.
He definitely bring some stories.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
Yes, yeah, lots of good stories.

Speaker 4 (01:46:39):
I like it. I used to wanted to have the
tattooed name, tattooed storyteller and Cherokee on my on me,
but I forgot what it was, so I got home instead.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:46:50):
Yeah, throw the big Foot in there.

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
I like the big Foot.

Speaker 5 (01:46:54):
Let's see it again.

Speaker 4 (01:46:58):
Oh yeah, at a kid it included on me.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
That's awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:47:03):
All right, that's the show.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
Thanks everybody. Ye.

Speaker 5 (01:47:08):
Well, let we'll let Steven ye.

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
Where to find him.

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
Oh yeah. If anybody wants to contact me with any
type of stories or anything like that, I've got an
email Arcane Discoveries four two three at gmail dot com,
or you can find me on TikTok uh and Instagram,
but don't have Facebook. That's pretty much the only two.
And YouTube, well that's the only platforms we I deal
with is TikTok and YouTube and Instagram, So that's where

(01:47:36):
you can find me.

Speaker 5 (01:47:37):
Yeah, you need to get him on your show. Got
some good stories for East Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (01:47:43):
I go two weeks to talk with Tony really.

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
Yeah, we were supposed to go October of last year
and we had to cancel because he had something that
he had to do and he's like, hey, can we
push it up? And then and pushing it up pushed
it right into the middle of us doing something. He's like, oh, well,
we'll just we'll get back together again. And we never
got to get back together again yet.

Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
So just.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
Tell him, I said, Hi. I text him not too
long ago, you know, with all that's going on with
his wife and stuff, and told him that was keeping
him in our thoughts and stuff. So because I still
got his number. So yeah, that's terrible, it really is.
I heard something about like that. I would I wouldn't
be happy. I wouldn't it'd be hard to keep doing

(01:48:37):
the show. So for him to keep doing what he's doing,
you know, more power buddy, because it would be hard.

Speaker 4 (01:48:45):
That's a good example. A lot of us would look
into stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (01:48:49):
Yeah, I'd like everybody to Michelle remember my family. Yes,
my father in law was pretty bad sick and just
remember them your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
Yes, definitely awesome, great show, show says a great show guys.
M hmm, all right, don't got anything.

Speaker 4 (01:49:12):
What do we got? Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:49:14):
We got coming up excuse me. July the fifth, we're
going to be on Paranormal among Us with Paranormal Paul
Oh that trip. We're gonna be on his show that
Now next Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:49:28):
Now I'm gonna be in Mississippi, but I'm gonna I
wanna bring my laptop and still be on the show.

Speaker 5 (01:49:38):
So we got that coming up. And then July the
twenty sixth, we got the Bigfoot Conference in Gallinburg.

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
Just before the Bigfoot Conference, don't we have Greg Gogel.

Speaker 5 (01:49:47):
Greg Gogol is going to be on the nineteenth of July.
Then the Bigfoot Conference. We got a couple more coming
up shows. I just don't know them off top of mind.

Speaker 3 (01:49:57):
If you go to our Facebook page, there definitely listened.
Jason usually puts all that stuff up on our Facebook.

Speaker 5 (01:50:04):
Yeah, they're up there. So all right, we got that
out of the way. Thank you for watching and listening.

Speaker 3 (01:50:11):
Yes, we appreciate everybody, and and so and you two Stephen,
thank you for coming on.

Speaker 4 (01:50:18):
Thank you for having me back here.

Speaker 3 (01:50:19):
Yeah. Absolutely, I wanted.

Speaker 4 (01:50:20):
To come to talk with all first when I went
to the other guy.

Speaker 3 (01:50:23):
Yeah, well we really appreciate you. Yeah, come to the
little guy first day. Remember you could find us at
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(01:50:47):
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(01:51:07):
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Speaker 5 (01:51:33):
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