May 15, 2025 • 43 mins
In 1980, the eruption of Mount St. Helens devastated the landscape, but some say it unearthed a secret far more incredible: evidence of Bigfoot. Journey into the heart of the blast zone as we investigate shocking eyewitness accounts of massive, hairy creatures – some found deceased, others injured and desperate. Did the eruption expose a hidden population, and did the government try to bury the truth along with the ash?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
H C Van through the midnight, haze season, Shadows in
the darkest, May's footstep second in the empty hall, Mysteries, waiting,
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sad footstepping through the pies, Aliens, send the secrets, sience e.
VP's in the dead of night, ghost is in in
the pill night. I don't know before what we bring
it to your truth behind the veil, gout.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Of talk about it, talk about the strange oh ride, right,
welcome everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
How's everybody doing.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's great Thursday evening, Yes, little cloudy, little warm here.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
It was muggy all day.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
And I work in an office and women still have
heaters on.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
They had the heater on upstairs, and and they're they're
AC has events for hour downstairs. And it was hotter
than hades. No way, nope, come on, everybody, get in here,
Get in here, Come on in, come on in.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Let's see if is everybody getting there?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, messages.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
So so now we've got a good show, don't we, Jason,
we do.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
We're going to be.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Talking about something that we haven't talked about since we
were known by another name, p d C.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
That's right, Project Dark Corona. I had to say it. Yeah,
that was US Project Corona.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
And so we're gonna be talking about Mount Saint.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Helen's and some bigfoot and some footing, some feet, you know,
some smelly feet. After researching this this time, man, the
last time there there's a lot of evidence, but the
witnesses are not you know, named, No, nope, a few maybe, yes,
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but a lot of them wasn't named.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
It's kind of weird the fact that this happened.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Of course we all know that, you know, Mount Saint
Helens erupted in nineteen eighty and then of course the
military and all kinds of other people went in to
help with clean up and everything. And that's where this
kind of takes over, is that'ssedly. There was people who
came out afterwards saying, look, there were things that I
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saw that they weren't humans. Yeah, there were something else,
but they definitely weren't humans.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So you ready, yeah, go ahead, ready to get into it.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We'll get it started, all right.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Well, let's go ahead and start on May eighteenth, nineteen eighty,
which is a day that was etched into the Pacific
Northwest memory. At exactly eight thirty two am, Mount Sant
Helen's erupted now. When it erupted, it erupted with the
force of twenty four megatons of TNT, which is enough
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to level forests, vaporized lakes, and carve a crater a
mile wide. The sky turned black, ash rained down like
toxic snow. But beneath the chaos, there's a hidden chapter
to this disaster, because while the world focused on the
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volcano's fury, rumors swirled about something else in the debris.
Contractors reported soldiers guarding ash coated bodies too tall to
be human. Medics spoke of bandaged figures in tents. There's
silhouettes hulking under dim lantern light, and pilots claimed helicopters
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airlifted cargo nets filled with something to a remote military base. Yeah,
so tonight we're not just talking about lava and landslides.
We're actually asking did the US military rescue Bigfoot in
the aftermath of Mount sant Halen's and why would they
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bother To answer that, we need to rewind way back
to a mountain steeped in mystery long before it blew
its top, a mountain where native tribes tribes warned of
mountain devils, prospectors fought ape like creatures and hikers vanished
without a trace.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Mountain tribes, yeah, native.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Tribes, yep, Native mountain tribes. Now this isn't just a story.
It is a collision of geography, history, and government secrecy.
So over this next hour, we're going to try to
stitch together some tribal legends, declassified documents, and some eyewitness
accounts to build a case that something someone was on
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that mountain and the military knew about it.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Mmm. Do you think they they really did know about
it or were they surprised?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
You know, I think that there was a possibly hidden
agenda to why they was there doing what they were doing.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah. I think they knew about it because of all
the things that happened around that area before.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, I mean you had already the Patterson gimblin. You
already had tons of stuff, so people knew that. Well,
the lure said that the Bigfoot was there.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, so absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So May eighteenth, it was a Sunday morning in the
Pacific Northwest. You could probably hear the birds chirp, you know,
you could hear the mist clean to the trees of
Mount Saint Helen's. But at eight thirty two am, the
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world exploded. The mountain's north face detonates with the force
of a twenty four mega with twenty four mega tons
of and it blasted ass fifteen miles into the sky.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
That's crazy, you know. I was only five when this happened,
but I remember news coverage like crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, I was ten, So you.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Remember it a lot better than.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Rivers. Boiled Spirit Lake, once a mirror of Alpine beauty.
It was buried under two hundred feet of mud and debris.
But in the chaos that followed, something a little stranger emerged.
Contractors clearing debris near the total total river reported soldiers
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guarding tarps draped over harry ash coated bodies. Yeah, helicopters
airlifted shrouded figures and cargots. Medics treated bandage patients over
eight feet tall. So tonight we asked ourselves. Did the
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US military secretly rescue Bigfoot in the aftermath of this disaster?
I think it's possible, Oh, I think so. You know,
for over a century, Mount Saint Helen's has been ground
zero for Sasquatch lore, from tribal legends of mountain devils
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to prospectors battling ape like creatures in the twenties. Our
goal tonight is going to connect these dots, are going
to try to So we'll start with the volcano's deep
history of paranormal activity, then explore how the nineteen eighty
eruption created the perfect storm for military intervention. By the end,
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we're gonna let you decide if this is a myth
or its hidden history.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I think it's hidden history.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Do you think so?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I do?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I think there's an awful lot of lore just around.
I mean, we'll rewind it real quick, but way before that, right,
there's tons of lure of these creatures being there.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
But then.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
After the eruption, there's been tons of lure, tons of podcasts,
tons of other people talking about this very thing, about
all the supposed Bigfoot that were helped and and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I think it's I want to say, I kind of
believe it. I'm leaning on the true side.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
How's that?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
What's up Roy?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
What's up Roy? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Glad you can join us? I know you believe in Bigfoot.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yep, he sees him every day, he does.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's what he told me.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
So first we're gonna rewind it back a little bit.
We're gonna go way before the eruption of Mount Saint Helen's. Now,
this wasn't just a volcano. It was a cryptid crossroads.
To understand why the military might intervene, we need to
prove Bigfoot's undeniable presence in these woods. So we're starting
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with the stories that built the legend. So long before
settlers arrived, the Cowletz people shared stories around campfires of
creatures they called mountain devils. There were tall, hairy beans
that roamed the slopes of lou Wit what we now
call Mount San Helen's. Now, imagine the dense ancient forests
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of the Pacific Northwest, shrouded in mists and volcanic fog. Now,
the cowlets people this was no ordinary mountain. It was
a place of spirits. There was a place and a
threshold between the worlds Now, these devils were described as
nine to ten feet tall, covered in coarse hair, with
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glowing eyes that pierced the darkness.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Isn't that funny?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
And still get those same glowing miss today. They moved silently,
vanishing before dawn, leaving only oversized footprints in the mud. Now,
the tribes didn't fear them. They respected them as guardians
of the wilderness. But they warned do not linger in
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the high caves after sunset. Now this wasn't superstition. It
was a lived truth passed down through generations, and in
nineteen twenty four, that truth collided with the modern day world.
July nineteen twenty four, those five gold prospectors Fred Beck,
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Marion Smith and his son, Roy Gabe, Leverfin Leverfer, and
John Peterson. Now these are all camped in a remote
gorge near Spirit Lake. The air smell the pine and sulfur.
They're miles from civilization. Their only shelter a rough log cabin. Now,
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one afternoon, fred Beck and a companion hike to a spring.
As they fill their canteens, they hear rustling. Now Beck
turns and freezes. A seven foot tall creature covered in
blackish brown hair stands thirty yards away.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What would you do, m I'd probably look at it
for a minute.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Now, it doesn't look like a bear. It strides upright
like a man. Beck raises his rifle, three shots ring out.
The creature staggers, then vanishes into the trees. That night,
the men huddle in their cabin midnight strikes. Suddenly thud
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thud thud. Rocks starts slamming against the walls. The roof
groans under the weight of something massive. Through gaps in
the logs, they see shadows, multiple shadows lurching around outside.
A hairy arm burst through a hole of the wall,
grasping for an axe. Beck wrestles at free for six hours.
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The miners fire rifles through the roof and door. Over
fifty rounds were spent a lot. At dawn, they flee,
abandoning two hundred dollars in supplies, which was a fortune.
In nineteen twenty four, I bet, but this wasn't a
campfire tail. In twenty thirteen, researcher Mark Marcel hiked to
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the cabin site. Using a metal detectors. He unearthed thirty
thirty Winchester rifle casings, the exact matches to the guns
back described, which is physical proof of their battle.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Beck later wrote.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
These beings weren't animals, they were something other. His nineteen
sixty seven book I Fought the Eight Men of Mount
San Helen's, he claimed they were interdimensional, but for locals,
the message was clear. Something lived in those woods. Now
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the Eight Kenyan incident wasn't one off. In nineteen fifty,
a young skier named Jim Carter or Joe Carter records conflict,
vanished near the same gorge. Search teams found his tracks
leading straight towards the canyon's edge, as if he'd been dragged.
Nobody was ever recovered.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh yeah, that is crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, I mean, could you imagine, I mean, here, here
is all these stories already.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, and we're still building the case.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Till this day. Yeah, I mean he's building the.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Case, building it one at a time.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Even by the seventies, sightings were surging. They were outrageous.
Loggers along the Lewis River reported eighteen inch footprints pressed
deep into the river banks. Hikers even described guttural growls
and musky rotting meat stench near Spirit Lake. Even park rangers,
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they were trained observers, admitted finding strange tracks. So definitely
something was there, Yeah, and probably still there today, I think, so,
I believe. So you had all these sightings, but before
the siding, there was a Patterson Gimlin film and that's
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what sparked everything. I know, you've all seen the footage
of a hairy female sasquat striding through a California creek.
It wasn't for Mount Say Helen's, but it electrified the
whole Pacific Northwest. They were ready to find Bigfoot.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Suddenly Bigfoot wasn't just folklore, it was a cultural phenomenon.
So for decades the woods whispered. Then what happened on
May eighteenth, nineteen eighty the mountain let out screen in
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the chaos of the ash and fire. The old stories
took a darker turn because when the military arrived, they
just wasn't rescuing people. That's right, and I do believe that.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Well, you know, that's the whole basis of what we're
talking about now, right, we're starting to get into the
meat of it. Yeah, so now we're starting laying down.
Now the military has come in. When this happened, so
Saint Helen's erupted, The north face collapsed. It was the
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largest landslide ever recorded, unleashing a pyroclastic flow that incinerated
two hundred and thirty square miles.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, that's crazy, right.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
A forest and all the things that live in that
forest yep, gone, So imagine towering evergreen were snapped like
matchsticks and spirit lake was it bulled into a toxic stew,
and ash was so thick that they it blotted out
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the sun across three states. Yeah, and beneath this devastation,
something else stirred. Contractors working near the Tuttal River reported
erie sites. They reported soldiers guarding tarps draped over massive
ash coated shapes. One worker swore that he saw a
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hairy human like hand protruding from under the canvas, a
hand far larger than any bear.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
That's big hand.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah. So the US military descended swiftly, the Army Corps
of Engineers, the National Guard, the Air Force. They officially
they were there for a rescue and debris removed and
to try to restore order. But in the volcanoes remote
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blasts on, shielded by ash clouds and landslides, another operation unfolded.
We're gonna let David talk about it.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
So a logging crew working near the Tuttle River stumbled
upon a surreal scene. Soldiers were guarding two large tarp
covered shapes in the ash. One contractor, who asked to
remain anonymous, described a strong rotting smell and a glimpse
of a hairy arm sticking out from underneath the tarp.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
It was thick like a.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Man's but covered in coarse black hair. When he asked
a soldier of what they had found, the reply was,
you don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
You don't need to know.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
A retired Army pilot, speaking and not homously, in a
two thousand and eight podcast interview, recalled airlifting unmarked cargo
nets from the Eruption Zone to Joint Base Lewis McCord.
He said the nets were heavy, way heavier than debris.
Once a corner flapped open mid flight, and I saw
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a foot not human, two large toes splayed like a primates.
When he questioned his commander, he was told classified, focus
on your job.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Crazy right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
There was A volunteer medic named Karen pseudonym described a
triage tint near Coldwater Creek where she assisted military doctors.
She said they brought in three figures on stretchers, covered
head to toe and bandages and army overcoat. One was
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over eight foot long. She said, I saw a hand
with thick fingers, black nails, and there was coarse hair
poking through the gauze. A doctor snapped, stay back, this
one's contagious. I was ordered to leave the tent. She
remembered the smell burnt hair and something metallic like copper.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
It's crazy now.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Guardsmen stationed near Spirit Lake reported seeing tall, hunched figures
being led into a temporary hangar. He told researchers in
twenty twelve they were wrapped in gray blankets, walking upright
but stumbling. One blanket slipped and I saw his shoulder.
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It was hairy, It was ash gray and way too
broad for a human. My sergeant grabbed me and said,
eyes forward, soldier, this never happened. What would you do, Jason,
I'd say yes Si.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I'd be like.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Sir, yes Si.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
A retired airmen described escorting non human entities during post
eruption ops. We were told to secure a hangar at
Lewis Becord. Two few figures walked in, over eight foot tall,
covered in heavy coats. Their gate was off, like their
knees were bent backwards. We were debriefed and threatened with
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court martial if we talked, that's weird? Could that have
been dog man?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
At my men? That's weird? Eight feet tall, covered in
heavy coat, their gate was like their knees were backwards.
Sounds like a dog man to me, sounds like a canine. Yeah, huh.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
So in two thousand and four, researcher filed a four
you request from Mount Sane Helen's recovery logs. The response,
no records responsive to your request. Yet the same logs
detail helicopter deployment to unmarked landing zones in the blast zone.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
M you know, there was another story out there. We
didn't get it in here, but there was also a
a Native American that came in I think, if I
remember correctly, yep, and one of the tenths. Yeah, and
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he was actually translating for them and talk with these creatures.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So I don't know how true that is, but I've
heard that story, and I think the last.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Time that we've done this, many many years ago, we
actually told that story. But I couldn't find it when
I was looking forward.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I'm sure you look for it too.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah. I tried to find it, but I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah. Same here. So, and that was.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Told by a one of the airmen, I think. Yeah.
So let's start with Ape Canyon and Spirit Lake, the
Tuttle River. You know, these places aren't just coordinates on
a map. They're the beating heart of this story. Before
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nineteen eighty, these were the hotspots where fred Beck fought
off the ape Men in nineteen twenty four. That's where
the Calitz tribe warned of mountain devils. It's also where
loggers found that eighteen inch footprint. In the seventies, and
after the eruption, these same valleys were swarming with military helicopters, medics,
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and guarded recovery teams. Now would you call that a coincidence?
There's not that many humans on Mount Saint Helens. Why
would they need all that recovery? Yeah, you know, the
government knew exactly where to look, I think yep. Also,
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pre nineteen eighty, let's talk a little bit about the survival.
Bigfoot was described as nocturnal, cave dwelling, elusive. So imagine
these creatures when the mountain blowed up. Just picture them
huddled in these lava filled tubes as the earth shook
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these caves and crawling out after the blast burned, starving exposed.
The forest they relied on was gone, the caves had collapsed.
Who else had the resources to intervene?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
The United States military medics treating bandage, figures and tents.
Sounds odd, don't it. It does airlifts two secret bases.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
That's the thing that really kind of bothers me about
this too, is like they say that they weren't airlifting nothing.
But okay, even if you are airlifting, why are you
lifting it to a secret base. Yeah, that alone is
just weird.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah. So if sasquatch existed, the eruption would force them
into the open and the government had to clean up
the mess. But why why do you think?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Well, I think we're gonna rewind back to nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I can you do that?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
So Mountain Saint Helen's wasn't just a volcano. It was
a paranormal tourist trap. Those guyed Bigfoot hikes, campfire ghost stories, merchandises,
the Patterson Gimlin film had already burned Bigfoot into America's brain.
The public expected weirdness here, so when the mountain blew,
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the military didn't just face ash and landslides. They actually
faced a cultural powder keg. If they found sasquatch. Secrecy
wasn't just possible, it was mandatory. There could be no
press leaks, there could be no headlines They just needed helicopters, tarps,
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and orders to say quiet.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Now does that sound familiar?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Smells like a cover up.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Does, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:10):
So let's cut to the why Why would the military
care about Bigfoot? First, the Endangered Species Act passed in
nineteen seventy three. If sasquatch were real, protecting them fits
the era's green wave. Secondly, Cold War paranoia. Imagine the
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Soviets learning we discovered a new hominid, the race to
weaponize it and study it. They did stuff like that.
I mean, I'm sure they did. I'm sure they studied
them and tried to make them kill and well, they
tried to impregnate women with like gorilla and stuff to
try to make stronger humans.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah? Super soldiers?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah. The third.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Fear not of sizequatch, but of us. How would the
public react? Churches, schools? It could be chaos?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Now, the government's job isn't truth, it's stability, And in
nineteen eighty stability meant hiding the unimaginable. Do you still
think it's a stretch. Let's talk about the people.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
The people.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Fred Beck and his miners had nothing to gain by
lying they lost money, tools, and nearly their lives. Yeah,
the Colitz tribes, stories centuries old, no YouTube clicks, no
merchandise sales, right post eruption contractors, loggers, engineers, men who
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knew bears, who knew the woods. Their quote, I've seen bears,
this was not a bear. Even a retired US Air
Force airmen admitted we were told never to discuss this
in any way or what we saw. These aren't UFO coops.
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These are eyewitnesses. These are people with nothing to gain
and everything to lose.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, I mean why would you say that if you
They didn't gain anything by saying it.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
No, No, and most people do not. Hey Bokerry, how
you doing?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Hey bo?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
So?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I mean people people back then didn't have YouTube, They
couldn't make money off of anything anything like this.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
No, not unless they wrote a book and it became
a best seller.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Why even mentioned that I found an eighteen foot track
then it wasn't a bear.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
It's crazy where.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
I saw bears or I saw things that they weren't bears,
you know, I mean, it just doesn't make a lot
of sense, It really doesn't.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
So the US government has form here UFOs They you know,
they got Project blue Book mind control experiments with MK
ultra foia. Requests about Mount Saint Helen's recovery ops denied
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because of national security whistleblowers silence, paper trails gone. This
isn't just speculation, it's standard practice. If the military rescued Bigfoot,
they'd do it the same way they had nuclear accidents
or spyplanes, efficiently, quite and brutally.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
That's fact.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
But why does this theory hold? Because the geography matches,
the behavior lines up, and the secrecy fits. The military
just wasn't just on Mountain Saint Helen's to save humans.
There wasn't that many humans on that mountain. They were
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there to clean up a disaster nobody could explain and
maybe just maybe help a species where still that people
are still not ready to admit that exists today. So
ask yourself, if you were in charge, would you do
the same thing?
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I would say most people would probably say yes, don't
you Yeah, I mean if they were in charge.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
So from the forest of Ape Canyon to the Aschoke
Valley of nineteen eighty, this story isn't just about what happened,
It's about what lingers. The cawl its tribe mountain devils.
It didn't vanish when the prospectors fled. Fred Beck's rifle
casings didn't dissolve in the rain. The eruption didn't erase
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the mystery. It etched in deeper. It etched it deeper
into this land, and today, joint based Lewis McCord still stands.
The Cascade remote valleys remain restricted. You can't get in there. Funny, Yeah,
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foia requests still get denied. The legacy isn't buried. It's
still breathing and it's just waiting.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Not funny that they would have parts of mountains and
stuff that were you can't go into it.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, you can't, just can't go there.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
It's not paid for it.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
It's your land, but you can't go there.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Just like the Grand Canyon. You can't get into a
lot of them. Nope, the places you can't.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Even fly helicopters in some places there.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
So in twenty thirteen, a researcher named Mark Marcel hiked
into Ape Canyon with the metal detector. What did he find?
Rusted rifle casings from the twenties. The cabin's iron hinges. Now,
this is tangible proof of Fred Beck's nightmare. Yeah, hikers
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near Tutal River reported low rumbling growls, sounds that DeFi biologists,
sounds that match exactly what the Cowlitz tribe described centuries ago.
Now the mountain isn't done speaking, it's testing us and
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daring us to listen.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So here's the question that I leave you with. When
you stand at the edge of a forest, when you
feel the chill of a shadow you can't explain, will
you shrug it off? Or will you remember Ape Canyon,
remember the miners, the medics, the whispers of a base
(35:23):
called Lewis McCord. Will you dismiss it as a tale.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Or will you wonder.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
If the legacy isn't just alive but maybe it's watching.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, so maybe you'll remember the show if you ever,
you know, get a chance to go visit Mount Saint
Helen's and then you find them, then you find something. Yeah,
and you see David and Jason were correct.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
You know it's it is still to this day a
pretty magical place. Mount Saint Helen's is.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, that's a good uh, good story. And and I
believe that this really did happen. I mean, I do
you know our government. You know, they cover up everything,
and why would they want to let something like this out?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I mean we even talked about it, right mk Ultra.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I mean there's yeah, the Bay of Pigs.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I mean, we go on forever and ever about all
the stuff that they've tried to hide that that came
out that we know that they tried to hide.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
So maybe one day this will get brought out, yeah, unredacted.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yes, like the JFK files.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, which that didn't give us anything really.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Oh, there's some pretty pretty amazing insights on the JFK foles.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Are they I haven't heard anything.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I've been researching the heck out of it.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Sure do so we we do want to thank everybody
that's watching. This is kind of a short show, yep.
I think I think some people think that we started
at eight o'clock or something maybe, but seven on Thursdays
Eastern time.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yes, and on Saturday or Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, remember this Saturday. We got through US Hannahs, through
US Draconus Hannahs. Yes, coming on, he's going to be live.
He's going to be with us, and we're going to
be taking live collars. So if you want your card read,
if you want to tear it reading. You need to
call it and then uh he's going to give it
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to you.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Mm hmmm, a face of shock, whispering to yourself it's real.
They were right, they were right.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
But then you're gonna be like this, yeah, oh my god. Yeah.
This Saturday, eight pm, though, we're gonna have, like Jason said,
through Lister Chronus.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Live live call in show. So we're gonna put the
number up on the screen and if you want your
card read, uh through List is going to read it
for you. And he's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
He does a lot of readings and has done a
lot of things.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Our switchboard only holds thirty five calls at a time,
and I would love fill it up for that thing
to be full. Yeah, love for that thing to be
full for us. I have to just hurry him up.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
If you want to read, Yeah, if you want your
fortune told, just call it.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
It's gonna be a two hour show. So we definitely
are going to have a great time this Saturday.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
So I peel myself to pass out. Last thought, please
don't leave me, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
So you can join us at the Knox Public Library,
Cedar Bluff location, Saturday, October eleventh, at two pm. It's
going to be there doing a little presentation on the paranormal.
Bring some equipment, some evidence, and maybe we can pack
the house.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Last time we did it, what was it like, February
tenth or something like that.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
We had, you know a few people that showed up
and we got to talk to them. We handed out
a bunch of equipment, let them look at it, told
them how things worked, and we did a full two
hour you know.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Show. I guess I talk.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Also, we're going to be at the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot
Conference July of the twenty sixth and Gatlinburg, Tennessee. It's
going to be fun. We're going to be rowing elbows
with the big dogs apairt the big Foot Place. Come see.
We have some shirts and some books for sale. Yeah,
and if you buy a book, get a free signature. Yeah,
(40:06):
and we'd love to hear it. We love stories, so
you can sell your stories.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Yeah, if you've not watched you know, the last festival
that we was at, we did three h two hour
shows and we brought you live you know, while people
were actually telling us those stories. So we actually had
a really good time and love, like Jason said, love
to hear your stories, and if you can't make it out,
(40:32):
you could always hear Send us your stories at info
apparentlem before one one dot org.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, we'll be happy to read them on the on
the air.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Ye we'll read them. We'll let you come on and
tell us.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah. Also, we got the Upper Cumberland Bigfoot Festival in October.
Don't know for sure the exact date, but we're going
to be there hopefully, and it's going to be fun.
What you think, I think.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
We have a busy year. We've got quite a few guests.
As Jason starts putting them up on the Facebook page.
You could definitely go on and look at the lineup
of guests that are starting to come on. And these
are mostly our Saturday shows. Our two hour shows is
usually where we do our guests and stuff, so definitely
come and check us out during that time. We have
(41:24):
a lot of fun with Jason. It's a lot of
fun when we have our guests, and a lot of
information usually gets thrown out everywhere.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Opaying on yourself either.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, I'm about to go ahead to hurry all right, David,
take us all right?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Everybody.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Thanks and we will see you later. Remember we are
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(42:07):
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Join us. I want to thank everybody. Jason wants to
thank everybody. He had to run. But we will see
you Saturday. Remember through the Straconas Hannis is going to
(42:49):
be doing a live show with us this Saturday, eight
pm Eastern Standard time.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
We'll see you then.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Have you ever wondered what lurks in the shadows, what
secrets the night hides, what strange phenomena might be happening
just beyond your perception. Join us as we journey into
the world of the paranormal, exploring everything from ghosts and
UFOs to cryptids and unexplained occurrences, from haunted houses to
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
Of talk about it, talk about the strange oh ride, right,
welcome everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
How's everybody doing.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's great Thursday evening, Yes, little cloudy, little warm here.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
It was muggy all day.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
And I work in an office and women still have
heaters on.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
They had the heater on upstairs, and and they're they're
AC has events for hour downstairs. And it was hotter
than hades. No way, nope, come on, everybody, get in here,
Get in here, Come on in, come on in.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Let's see if is everybody getting there?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, messages.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
So so now we've got a good show, don't we, Jason,
we do.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
We're going to be.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Talking about something that we haven't talked about since we
were known by another name, p d C.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
That's right, Project Dark Corona. I had to say it. Yeah,
that was US Project Corona.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
And so we're gonna be talking about Mount Saint.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Helen's and some bigfoot and some footing, some feet, you know,
some smelly feet. After researching this this time, man, the
last time there there's a lot of evidence, but the
witnesses are not you know, named, No, nope, a few maybe, yes,
(02:31):
but a lot of them wasn't named.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
It's kind of weird the fact that this happened.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Of course we all know that, you know, Mount Saint
Helens erupted in nineteen eighty and then of course the
military and all kinds of other people went in to
help with clean up and everything. And that's where this
kind of takes over, is that'ssedly. There was people who
came out afterwards saying, look, there were things that I
(03:08):
saw that they weren't humans. Yeah, there were something else,
but they definitely weren't humans.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So you ready, yeah, go ahead, ready to get into it.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We'll get it started, all right.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Well, let's go ahead and start on May eighteenth, nineteen eighty,
which is a day that was etched into the Pacific
Northwest memory. At exactly eight thirty two am, Mount Sant
Helen's erupted now. When it erupted, it erupted with the
force of twenty four megatons of TNT, which is enough
(03:45):
to level forests, vaporized lakes, and carve a crater a
mile wide. The sky turned black, ash rained down like
toxic snow. But beneath the chaos, there's a hidden chapter
to this disaster, because while the world focused on the
(04:07):
volcano's fury, rumors swirled about something else in the debris.
Contractors reported soldiers guarding ash coated bodies too tall to
be human. Medics spoke of bandaged figures in tents. There's
silhouettes hulking under dim lantern light, and pilots claimed helicopters
(04:30):
airlifted cargo nets filled with something to a remote military base. Yeah,
so tonight we're not just talking about lava and landslides.
We're actually asking did the US military rescue Bigfoot in
the aftermath of Mount sant Halen's and why would they
(04:51):
bother To answer that, we need to rewind way back
to a mountain steeped in mystery long before it blew
its top, a mountain where native tribes tribes warned of
mountain devils, prospectors fought ape like creatures and hikers vanished
without a trace.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Mountain tribes, yeah, native.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Tribes, yep, Native mountain tribes. Now this isn't just a story.
It is a collision of geography, history, and government secrecy.
So over this next hour, we're going to try to
stitch together some tribal legends, declassified documents, and some eyewitness
accounts to build a case that something someone was on
(05:42):
that mountain and the military knew about it.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Mmm. Do you think they they really did know about
it or were they surprised?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
You know, I think that there was a possibly hidden
agenda to why they was there doing what they were doing.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah. I think they knew about it because of all
the things that happened around that area before.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Yeah, I mean you had already the Patterson gimblin. You
already had tons of stuff, so people knew that. Well,
the lure said that the Bigfoot was there.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, so absolutely.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So May eighteenth, it was a Sunday morning in the
Pacific Northwest. You could probably hear the birds chirp, you know,
you could hear the mist clean to the trees of
Mount Saint Helen's. But at eight thirty two am, the
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world exploded. The mountain's north face detonates with the force
of a twenty four mega with twenty four mega tons
of and it blasted ass fifteen miles into the sky.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
That's crazy, you know. I was only five when this happened,
but I remember news coverage like crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, I was ten, So you.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Remember it a lot better than.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Rivers. Boiled Spirit Lake, once a mirror of Alpine beauty.
It was buried under two hundred feet of mud and debris.
But in the chaos that followed, something a little stranger emerged.
Contractors clearing debris near the total total river reported soldiers
(07:44):
guarding tarps draped over harry ash coated bodies. Yeah, helicopters
airlifted shrouded figures and cargots. Medics treated bandage patients over
eight feet tall. So tonight we asked ourselves. Did the
(08:11):
US military secretly rescue Bigfoot in the aftermath of this disaster?
I think it's possible, Oh, I think so. You know,
for over a century, Mount Saint Helen's has been ground
zero for Sasquatch lore, from tribal legends of mountain devils
(08:32):
to prospectors battling ape like creatures in the twenties. Our
goal tonight is going to connect these dots, are going
to try to So we'll start with the volcano's deep
history of paranormal activity, then explore how the nineteen eighty
eruption created the perfect storm for military intervention. By the end,
(08:57):
we're gonna let you decide if this is a myth
or its hidden history.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I think it's hidden history.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Do you think so?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I do?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I think there's an awful lot of lore just around.
I mean, we'll rewind it real quick, but way before that, right,
there's tons of lure of these creatures being there.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
But then.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
After the eruption, there's been tons of lure, tons of podcasts,
tons of other people talking about this very thing, about
all the supposed Bigfoot that were helped and and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I think it's I want to say, I kind of
believe it. I'm leaning on the true side.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
How's that?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
What's up Roy?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
What's up Roy? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Glad you can join us? I know you believe in Bigfoot.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yep, he sees him every day, he does.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
That's what he told me.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
So first we're gonna rewind it back a little bit.
We're gonna go way before the eruption of Mount Saint Helen's. Now,
this wasn't just a volcano. It was a cryptid crossroads.
To understand why the military might intervene, we need to
prove Bigfoot's undeniable presence in these woods. So we're starting
(10:27):
with the stories that built the legend. So long before
settlers arrived, the Cowletz people shared stories around campfires of
creatures they called mountain devils. There were tall, hairy beans
that roamed the slopes of lou Wit what we now
call Mount San Helen's. Now, imagine the dense ancient forests
(10:51):
of the Pacific Northwest, shrouded in mists and volcanic fog. Now,
the cowlets people this was no ordinary mountain. It was
a place of spirits. There was a place and a
threshold between the worlds Now, these devils were described as
nine to ten feet tall, covered in coarse hair, with
(11:13):
glowing eyes that pierced the darkness.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Isn't that funny?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
And still get those same glowing miss today. They moved silently,
vanishing before dawn, leaving only oversized footprints in the mud. Now,
the tribes didn't fear them. They respected them as guardians
of the wilderness. But they warned do not linger in
(11:37):
the high caves after sunset. Now this wasn't superstition. It
was a lived truth passed down through generations, and in
nineteen twenty four, that truth collided with the modern day world.
July nineteen twenty four, those five gold prospectors Fred Beck,
(12:01):
Marion Smith and his son, Roy Gabe, Leverfin Leverfer, and
John Peterson. Now these are all camped in a remote
gorge near Spirit Lake. The air smell the pine and sulfur.
They're miles from civilization. Their only shelter a rough log cabin. Now,
(12:22):
one afternoon, fred Beck and a companion hike to a spring.
As they fill their canteens, they hear rustling. Now Beck
turns and freezes. A seven foot tall creature covered in
blackish brown hair stands thirty yards away.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What would you do, m I'd probably look at it
for a minute.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Now, it doesn't look like a bear. It strides upright
like a man. Beck raises his rifle, three shots ring out.
The creature staggers, then vanishes into the trees. That night,
the men huddle in their cabin midnight strikes. Suddenly thud
(13:07):
thud thud. Rocks starts slamming against the walls. The roof
groans under the weight of something massive. Through gaps in
the logs, they see shadows, multiple shadows lurching around outside.
A hairy arm burst through a hole of the wall,
grasping for an axe. Beck wrestles at free for six hours.
(13:33):
The miners fire rifles through the roof and door. Over
fifty rounds were spent a lot. At dawn, they flee,
abandoning two hundred dollars in supplies, which was a fortune.
In nineteen twenty four, I bet, but this wasn't a
campfire tail. In twenty thirteen, researcher Mark Marcel hiked to
(13:58):
the cabin site. Using a metal detectors. He unearthed thirty
thirty Winchester rifle casings, the exact matches to the guns
back described, which is physical proof of their battle.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Beck later wrote.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
These beings weren't animals, they were something other. His nineteen
sixty seven book I Fought the Eight Men of Mount
San Helen's, he claimed they were interdimensional, but for locals,
the message was clear. Something lived in those woods. Now
(14:39):
the Eight Kenyan incident wasn't one off. In nineteen fifty,
a young skier named Jim Carter or Joe Carter records conflict,
vanished near the same gorge. Search teams found his tracks
leading straight towards the canyon's edge, as if he'd been dragged.
Nobody was ever recovered.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh yeah, that is crazy.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah, I mean, could you imagine, I mean, here, here
is all these stories already.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, and we're still building the case.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Till this day. Yeah, I mean he's building the.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Case, building it one at a time.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Even by the seventies, sightings were surging. They were outrageous.
Loggers along the Lewis River reported eighteen inch footprints pressed
deep into the river banks. Hikers even described guttural growls
and musky rotting meat stench near Spirit Lake. Even park rangers,
(15:57):
they were trained observers, admitted finding strange tracks. So definitely
something was there, Yeah, and probably still there today, I think, so,
I believe. So you had all these sightings, but before
the siding, there was a Patterson Gimlin film and that's
(16:20):
what sparked everything. I know, you've all seen the footage
of a hairy female sasquat striding through a California creek.
It wasn't for Mount Say Helen's, but it electrified the
whole Pacific Northwest. They were ready to find Bigfoot.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Suddenly Bigfoot wasn't just folklore, it was a cultural phenomenon.
So for decades the woods whispered. Then what happened on
May eighteenth, nineteen eighty the mountain let out screen in
(17:00):
the chaos of the ash and fire. The old stories
took a darker turn because when the military arrived, they
just wasn't rescuing people. That's right, and I do believe that.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Well, you know, that's the whole basis of what we're
talking about now, right, we're starting to get into the
meat of it. Yeah, so now we're starting laying down.
Now the military has come in. When this happened, so
Saint Helen's erupted, The north face collapsed. It was the
(17:37):
largest landslide ever recorded, unleashing a pyroclastic flow that incinerated
two hundred and thirty square miles.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, that's crazy, right.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
A forest and all the things that live in that
forest yep, gone, So imagine towering evergreen were snapped like
matchsticks and spirit lake was it bulled into a toxic stew,
and ash was so thick that they it blotted out
(18:12):
the sun across three states. Yeah, and beneath this devastation,
something else stirred. Contractors working near the Tuttal River reported
erie sites. They reported soldiers guarding tarps draped over massive
ash coated shapes. One worker swore that he saw a
(18:36):
hairy human like hand protruding from under the canvas, a
hand far larger than any bear.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
That's big hand.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah. So the US military descended swiftly, the Army Corps
of Engineers, the National Guard, the Air Force. They officially
they were there for a rescue and debris removed and
to try to restore order. But in the volcanoes remote
(19:09):
blasts on, shielded by ash clouds and landslides, another operation unfolded.
We're gonna let David talk about it.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
So a logging crew working near the Tuttle River stumbled
upon a surreal scene. Soldiers were guarding two large tarp
covered shapes in the ash. One contractor, who asked to
remain anonymous, described a strong rotting smell and a glimpse
of a hairy arm sticking out from underneath the tarp.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
It was thick like a.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Man's but covered in coarse black hair. When he asked
a soldier of what they had found, the reply was,
you don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
You don't need to know.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
A retired Army pilot, speaking and not homously, in a
two thousand and eight podcast interview, recalled airlifting unmarked cargo
nets from the Eruption Zone to Joint Base Lewis McCord.
He said the nets were heavy, way heavier than debris.
Once a corner flapped open mid flight, and I saw
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a foot not human, two large toes splayed like a primates.
When he questioned his commander, he was told classified, focus
on your job.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Crazy right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
There was A volunteer medic named Karen pseudonym described a
triage tint near Coldwater Creek where she assisted military doctors.
She said they brought in three figures on stretchers, covered
head to toe and bandages and army overcoat. One was
(21:01):
over eight foot long. She said, I saw a hand
with thick fingers, black nails, and there was coarse hair
poking through the gauze. A doctor snapped, stay back, this
one's contagious. I was ordered to leave the tent. She
remembered the smell burnt hair and something metallic like copper.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
It's crazy now.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Guardsmen stationed near Spirit Lake reported seeing tall, hunched figures
being led into a temporary hangar. He told researchers in
twenty twelve they were wrapped in gray blankets, walking upright
but stumbling. One blanket slipped and I saw his shoulder.
(21:53):
It was hairy, It was ash gray and way too
broad for a human. My sergeant grabbed me and said,
eyes forward, soldier, this never happened. What would you do, Jason,
I'd say yes Si.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I'd be like.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Sir, yes Si.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
A retired airmen described escorting non human entities during post
eruption ops. We were told to secure a hangar at
Lewis Becord. Two few figures walked in, over eight foot tall,
covered in heavy coats. Their gate was off, like their
knees were bent backwards. We were debriefed and threatened with
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court martial if we talked, that's weird? Could that have
been dog man?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
At my men? That's weird? Eight feet tall, covered in
heavy coat, their gate was like their knees were backwards.
Sounds like a dog man to me, sounds like a canine. Yeah, huh.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
So in two thousand and four, researcher filed a four
you request from Mount Sane Helen's recovery logs. The response,
no records responsive to your request. Yet the same logs
detail helicopter deployment to unmarked landing zones in the blast zone.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
M you know, there was another story out there. We
didn't get it in here, but there was also a
a Native American that came in I think, if I
remember correctly, yep, and one of the tenths. Yeah, and
(23:54):
he was actually translating for them and talk with these creatures.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So I don't know how true that is, but I've
heard that story, and I think the last.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Time that we've done this, many many years ago, we
actually told that story. But I couldn't find it when
I was looking forward.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I'm sure you look for it too.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah. I tried to find it, but I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah. Same here. So, and that was.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Told by a one of the airmen, I think. Yeah.
So let's start with Ape Canyon and Spirit Lake, the
Tuttle River. You know, these places aren't just coordinates on
a map. They're the beating heart of this story. Before
(24:43):
nineteen eighty, these were the hotspots where fred Beck fought
off the ape Men in nineteen twenty four. That's where
the Calitz tribe warned of mountain devils. It's also where
loggers found that eighteen inch footprint. In the seventies, and
after the eruption, these same valleys were swarming with military helicopters, medics,
(25:08):
and guarded recovery teams. Now would you call that a coincidence?
There's not that many humans on Mount Saint Helens. Why
would they need all that recovery? Yeah, you know, the
government knew exactly where to look, I think yep. Also,
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pre nineteen eighty, let's talk a little bit about the survival.
Bigfoot was described as nocturnal, cave dwelling, elusive. So imagine
these creatures when the mountain blowed up. Just picture them
huddled in these lava filled tubes as the earth shook
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these caves and crawling out after the blast burned, starving exposed.
The forest they relied on was gone, the caves had collapsed.
Who else had the resources to intervene?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
The United States military medics treating bandage, figures and tents.
Sounds odd, don't it. It does airlifts two secret bases.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
That's the thing that really kind of bothers me about
this too, is like they say that they weren't airlifting nothing.
But okay, even if you are airlifting, why are you
lifting it to a secret base. Yeah, that alone is
just weird.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah. So if sasquatch existed, the eruption would force them
into the open and the government had to clean up
the mess. But why why do you think?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Well, I think we're gonna rewind back to nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I can you do that?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
So Mountain Saint Helen's wasn't just a volcano. It was
a paranormal tourist trap. Those guyed Bigfoot hikes, campfire ghost stories, merchandises,
the Patterson Gimlin film had already burned Bigfoot into America's brain.
The public expected weirdness here, so when the mountain blew,
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the military didn't just face ash and landslides. They actually
faced a cultural powder keg. If they found sasquatch. Secrecy
wasn't just possible, it was mandatory. There could be no
press leaks, there could be no headlines They just needed helicopters, tarps,
(27:59):
and orders to say quiet.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Now does that sound familiar?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Smells like a cover up.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Does, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:10):
So let's cut to the why Why would the military
care about Bigfoot? First, the Endangered Species Act passed in
nineteen seventy three. If sasquatch were real, protecting them fits
the era's green wave. Secondly, Cold War paranoia. Imagine the
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Soviets learning we discovered a new hominid, the race to
weaponize it and study it. They did stuff like that.
I mean, I'm sure they did. I'm sure they studied
them and tried to make them kill and well, they
tried to impregnate women with like gorilla and stuff to
try to make stronger humans.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah? Super soldiers?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah. The third.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Fear not of sizequatch, but of us. How would the
public react? Churches, schools? It could be chaos?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Now, the government's job isn't truth, it's stability, And in
nineteen eighty stability meant hiding the unimaginable. Do you still
think it's a stretch. Let's talk about the people.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
The people.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Fred Beck and his miners had nothing to gain by
lying they lost money, tools, and nearly their lives. Yeah,
the Colitz tribes, stories centuries old, no YouTube clicks, no
merchandise sales, right post eruption contractors, loggers, engineers, men who
(29:55):
knew bears, who knew the woods. Their quote, I've seen bears,
this was not a bear. Even a retired US Air
Force airmen admitted we were told never to discuss this
in any way or what we saw. These aren't UFO coops.
(30:23):
These are eyewitnesses. These are people with nothing to gain
and everything to lose.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, I mean why would you say that if you
They didn't gain anything by saying it.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
No, No, and most people do not. Hey Bokerry, how
you doing?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Hey bo?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
So?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I mean people people back then didn't have YouTube, They
couldn't make money off of anything anything like this.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
No, not unless they wrote a book and it became
a best seller.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Why even mentioned that I found an eighteen foot track
then it wasn't a bear.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
It's crazy where.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
I saw bears or I saw things that they weren't bears,
you know, I mean, it just doesn't make a lot
of sense, It really doesn't.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
So the US government has form here UFOs They you know,
they got Project blue Book mind control experiments with MK
ultra foia. Requests about Mount Saint Helen's recovery ops denied
(31:39):
because of national security whistleblowers silence, paper trails gone. This
isn't just speculation, it's standard practice. If the military rescued Bigfoot,
they'd do it the same way they had nuclear accidents
or spyplanes, efficiently, quite and brutally.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
That's fact.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
But why does this theory hold? Because the geography matches,
the behavior lines up, and the secrecy fits. The military
just wasn't just on Mountain Saint Helen's to save humans.
There wasn't that many humans on that mountain. They were
(32:24):
there to clean up a disaster nobody could explain and
maybe just maybe help a species where still that people
are still not ready to admit that exists today. So
ask yourself, if you were in charge, would you do
the same thing?
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I would say most people would probably say yes, don't
you Yeah, I mean if they were in charge.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
So from the forest of Ape Canyon to the Aschoke
Valley of nineteen eighty, this story isn't just about what happened,
It's about what lingers. The cawl its tribe mountain devils.
It didn't vanish when the prospectors fled. Fred Beck's rifle
casings didn't dissolve in the rain. The eruption didn't erase
(33:20):
the mystery. It etched in deeper. It etched it deeper
into this land, and today, joint based Lewis McCord still stands.
The Cascade remote valleys remain restricted. You can't get in there. Funny, Yeah,
(33:40):
foia requests still get denied. The legacy isn't buried. It's
still breathing and it's just waiting.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Not funny that they would have parts of mountains and
stuff that were you can't go into it.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, you can't, just can't go there.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
It's not paid for it.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
It's your land, but you can't go there.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Just like the Grand Canyon. You can't get into a
lot of them. Nope, the places you can't.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Even fly helicopters in some places there.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
So in twenty thirteen, a researcher named Mark Marcel hiked
into Ape Canyon with the metal detector. What did he find?
Rusted rifle casings from the twenties. The cabin's iron hinges. Now,
this is tangible proof of Fred Beck's nightmare. Yeah, hikers
(34:36):
near Tutal River reported low rumbling growls, sounds that DeFi biologists,
sounds that match exactly what the Cowlitz tribe described centuries ago.
Now the mountain isn't done speaking, it's testing us and
(34:57):
daring us to listen.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So here's the question that I leave you with. When
you stand at the edge of a forest, when you
feel the chill of a shadow you can't explain, will
you shrug it off? Or will you remember Ape Canyon,
remember the miners, the medics, the whispers of a base
(35:23):
called Lewis McCord. Will you dismiss it as a tale.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Or will you wonder.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
If the legacy isn't just alive but maybe it's watching.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, so maybe you'll remember the show if you ever,
you know, get a chance to go visit Mount Saint
Helen's and then you find them, then you find something. Yeah,
and you see David and Jason were correct.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
You know it's it is still to this day a
pretty magical place. Mount Saint Helen's is.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, that's a good uh, good story. And and I
believe that this really did happen. I mean, I do
you know our government. You know, they cover up everything,
and why would they want to let something like this out?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
I mean we even talked about it, right mk Ultra.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I mean there's yeah, the Bay of Pigs.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I mean, we go on forever and ever about all
the stuff that they've tried to hide that that came
out that we know that they tried to hide.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
So maybe one day this will get brought out, yeah, unredacted.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yes, like the JFK files.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, which that didn't give us anything really.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Oh, there's some pretty pretty amazing insights on the JFK foles.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Are they I haven't heard anything.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
I've been researching the heck out of it.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Sure do so we we do want to thank everybody
that's watching. This is kind of a short show, yep.
I think I think some people think that we started
at eight o'clock or something maybe, but seven on Thursdays
Eastern time.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yes, and on Saturday or Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, remember this Saturday. We got through US Hannahs, through
US Draconus Hannahs. Yes, coming on, he's going to be live.
He's going to be with us, and we're going to
be taking live collars. So if you want your card read,
if you want to tear it reading. You need to
call it and then uh he's going to give it
(37:44):
to you.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Mm hmmm, a face of shock, whispering to yourself it's real.
They were right, they were right.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
But then you're gonna be like this, yeah, oh my god. Yeah.
This Saturday, eight pm, though, we're gonna have, like Jason said,
through Lister Chronus.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Live live call in show. So we're gonna put the
number up on the screen and if you want your
card read, uh through List is going to read it
for you. And he's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
He does a lot of readings and has done a
lot of things.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Our switchboard only holds thirty five calls at a time,
and I would love fill it up for that thing
to be full. Yeah, love for that thing to be
full for us. I have to just hurry him up.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
If you want to read, Yeah, if you want your
fortune told, just call it.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
It's gonna be a two hour show. So we definitely
are going to have a great time this Saturday.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
So I peel myself to pass out. Last thought, please
don't leave me, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
So you can join us at the Knox Public Library,
Cedar Bluff location, Saturday, October eleventh, at two pm. It's
going to be there doing a little presentation on the paranormal.
Bring some equipment, some evidence, and maybe we can pack
the house.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Last time we did it, what was it like, February
tenth or something like that.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
We had, you know a few people that showed up
and we got to talk to them. We handed out
a bunch of equipment, let them look at it, told
them how things worked, and we did a full two
hour you know.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Show. I guess I talk.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Also, we're going to be at the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot
Conference July of the twenty sixth and Gatlinburg, Tennessee. It's
going to be fun. We're going to be rowing elbows
with the big dogs apairt the big Foot Place. Come see.
We have some shirts and some books for sale. Yeah,
and if you buy a book, get a free signature. Yeah,
(40:06):
and we'd love to hear it. We love stories, so
you can sell your stories.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Yeah, if you've not watched you know, the last festival
that we was at, we did three h two hour
shows and we brought you live you know, while people
were actually telling us those stories. So we actually had
a really good time and love, like Jason said, love
to hear your stories, and if you can't make it out,
(40:32):
you could always hear Send us your stories at info
apparentlem before one one dot org.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, we'll be happy to read them on the on
the air.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Ye we'll read them. We'll let you come on and
tell us.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah. Also, we got the Upper Cumberland Bigfoot Festival in October.
Don't know for sure the exact date, but we're going
to be there hopefully, and it's going to be fun.
What you think, I think.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
We have a busy year. We've got quite a few guests.
As Jason starts putting them up on the Facebook page.
You could definitely go on and look at the lineup
of guests that are starting to come on. And these
are mostly our Saturday shows. Our two hour shows is
usually where we do our guests and stuff, so definitely
come and check us out during that time. We have
(41:24):
a lot of fun with Jason. It's a lot of
fun when we have our guests, and a lot of
information usually gets thrown out everywhere.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Opaying on yourself either.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, I'm about to go ahead to hurry all right, David,
take us all right?
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Everybody.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Thanks and we will see you later. Remember we are
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(42:07):
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(42:27):
Hauntings and Lawer Edition two, that is East Tennessee Hauntings
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Join us. I want to thank everybody. Jason wants to
thank everybody. He had to run. But we will see
you Saturday. Remember through the Straconas Hannis is going to
(42:49):
be doing a live show with us this Saturday, eight
pm Eastern Standard time.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
We'll see you then.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
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