September 4, 2025 • 44 mins
The legend of the Jersey Devil, also known as the Leeds Devil, is one of America's most enduring and perplexing crypto-zoological mysteries. Rooted in the dense, forbidding wilderness of the New Jersey Pine Barrens—a vast, untamed expanse of pinelands and cedar swamps that blankets a fifth of the state—this cryptid's history is a rich tapestry of folklore, religious conflict, and mass hysteria. For centuries, the Jersey Devil has been a source of both terror and fascination, with its reputation cemented by a flood of reputable eyewitness accounts and a bizarre, inconsistent physical description. It is a creature born of fire and fear, a phantom of the pines that has haunted the American imagination for nearly 300 years.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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truth behind the veil.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Gotta all righty, welcome this Thursday, Rainy Thursday, man, stormy.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I thought the wife, I said, I think this year
is going to end like it began. You know, it
was like we have four months of rain instead of
like two, and it seems like we had a I mean,
it was pretty hot summer, but it seems like it's
going to be It.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Was a little dry summer, I think.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
But we had an extra extra month of rain too.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, and so you know, uh, now it seems like
it's going to end with rain again.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I hope not. I'm sick of it already, are you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Ah, you like rain. I don't know. It's hard to
get stuff done around the house when it rained. Yeah,
like this Saturday, I need to get a lot of
stuff outside cleaned up, you know, so then when people
come look at the house, it's the yard is you know,
looking better and stuff like that. Yep, so we could
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sell the house.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So h we got a pretty good show tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
We've never really done nothing on this before, maybe just
in just speaking of it, I mean, but we've never
done a whole show.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah. Absolutely, What was that devil? I did? Like computer?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah? So yeah, this is the legend of the Jersey Devil.
Hopefully you guys will like this little story. Yes, story
Thursday story time. Yes, David, Yes you ready? Yes, I'm ready.
Jason Fence, you ready, Baby Girl Casper?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Anybody else on.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Baby Girl? Casper's in here, I know unless she got
no power again yep.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Jason says, there's Jersey Devil movies that I love to watch, Like,
I'm ready. Let's do it, Les, do it? You want
me to start it?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Don't matter, go ahead, you got it? Okay? So, uh,
you know the Legend of the Jersey Devil. It's also
known as the Leads Devil.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Now. It is one of America's most enduring and kind
of perplexing cryptozoological mysteries. Now it is rooted in uh
the Dance Forbidding wilderness of the New Jersey Pine Barons.
There we go, which is a vast untamed expanse of
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pinelands and cedar swamps that blankets a fifth of the state. Now,
this krypton's history is rich in folklore and religious conflict
and some mass hysteria.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Now, for centuries, the Jersey Devil has been a source
of both terror and fascination. So let's see if I can, Yeah,
keep on reading this here. It didn't want to page,
didn't want to keep on going.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
While you're doing that. And I'm gonna show them a
picture wanted beware the Joysy devil, the Jersey Devil. It
says it looks like a kangaroo with wings.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Might depend in kangaroo with wings, Yes, with wings?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Thousand dollars reward for it. That's crazy. And there was
sightings when we get into this. There's a few sightings
way back in there.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, yeah, there's some pretty crazy sightings. Now. The New
Jersey Pine Barrens is a vast untamed expanse of pinelands
and cedar swamps that blankets a fifth of the state. Now,
this cryptid's history is a rich tapestry of folklore. For centuries,
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the Jersey Devil has been a source of both terror
and fascination. Its reputation was cemented by a flood of
reputable eyewitness accounts and a bizarre, inconsistent physical description. Now
this is a creature born of fire and fear. It
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is a phantom of the pines and has haunted the
American imagination for nearly three hundred years. Three hundred years
long time, Yeah, Jason Finch says, the New Jersey Pine
Barons are beautiful. I don't think I have seen them.
I might as a truck driver, I might have grow
through them, but I don't remember, because I've been all
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up through every bit of that. Now it's kind of
a confluence of creatures. The New Jersey Devil is a
true chimera of the animal kingdom. Its general description is
that of very strange and contradictory. So common eyewitness accounts
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often described a bipedal, winged creature with hoofs, but now
the details very widely, suggesting either multiple creatures or the
wildly desperate nature of human observation under duress. Now, the
most widespread spread description paints a picture of a creature
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with a body of a kangaroo, the head of a horse, leathery,
bat like wings that extend in a huge wingspand spindly
legs ending in hoofs or sharp claws, and some witnesses
have also reported a forked tail and a grotesque face
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with glowing red eyes. About that, Jason, I think it's
pretty crazy. Very creepy, that's what Jason Finn says. Yes,
very creepy. Now, other accounts have also described its body
as resembling a reptilian alligator. Oh yeah, so this also
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shows the diversion, often terrifying nature of the sightings. Now,
this creature is said to move with an unusual hopping gait,
and it emits a blood curdling screen that has been
compared to a woman's shriek hopping gate. It's kind of
like a kangaroo.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Might be park kangaroo.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Maybe maybe it's a experiment gone wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
There some crazy experiments up there.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Right, So it has a blood curdling screen that has
been compared to a woman shriek, a terrified horse, or
the grinding of a rusty gate. Now, it is this
strange combination of features how it flies, the hopping the
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head of a horse that kind of makes a jersey
devil baffling. This has led a variety of nicknames, including
the Kangaroo Horse, the Flying Death, the cowbird. The sheer
impossibility of its form is what makes it so terrifying
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andfficult to dismiss.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, I'd like to see a cowbird.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I wasn't I going up there and seeing one?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Or it?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
What what's interesting is it's been around for hundreds of years.
I mean people have cited it, right, there's witnesses for it,
and it's really a crazy looking thing.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
For me, I'm wondering, though, we'll go into the wou
for a second. Do you think that it is possible?
I mean, besides the legends and the birthing legends and
stuff that I'm sure you're about to talk about, do
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you not think that's something like this though, would almost
be say, interdepensional.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah. Or it could have been conjured up something that
comes from somewhere else, Yeah, one way or another. Yeah,
could have been conjured up by witches or shamon or anything. Really.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well, so the most famous origin story, this is the
most famous one. Now it traces the Jersey Devil back
to the Leeds family in the eighteenth century. Yes, so
the central figure is Mother Leeds. Now, she was a
woman living in the pine barrens, who already burdened with
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twelve children. Twelve children, Yes, I'd hate to be the papa.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, nope, I would be moving to somewhere else. Yeah,
an extradition country she wanted.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
She was exasperated upon learning she was pregnant again. Okay,
because she had already had twelve children, I could understand. So,
in a fit of in a fit of desperation and poverty,
she allegedly cursed her thirteenth unborn child on a dark,
stormy night in seventeen thirty five.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No, what happens when you cursed your own kid?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Now, she was said to have cried out, Let this
one be the devil you passed up? Yeah that is Yeah. So,
as her friends and family gathered, the child was born,
and it appeared normal. But within minutes minutes it underwent
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a monstrous transformation spooky rough. Its small body began to swell,
and its face was all contorted into like it was
into like a horse, and its arms morphed into long
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membranes of wings. Yeah, it shrieked and screamed, spooky, dooky bear. Normal,
So it shrieked and screamed. Reportedly, killing the attending midwife
and some of its siblings before flying up the chimney
and vanishing into the pine barrens. Dang just born and
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already gone. Eh, it was a newborn and sey, so
it left behind a trail of tear and smoke. The
thirteenth child a number already considered unlucky in folkal So
it became the monstrous symbol of a mother's curse. However, however,
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we do have a However, historical and scholarly analysis suggests
its origin might be more complex than a simple tale
of a cursed child. Some researchers proposed that this legend
was a form of colonial air smear campaign against the
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Leeds family. They were a prominent landowners and Quakers, so
the family patriarch eight Quaker. So the family patriarch, Daniel Leeds,
was a He was a controversial figure who published a
competing almanac that rivaled that of the most famous American
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of his time, Benjamin Frams. Oh So, Franklin and his allies,
who had a political and religious grievances with the Leads,
may have seized on the family's name to spread rumors
of a demonic birth.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, not demonic demonic.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
You know that's a powerful form of fake news, right,
that is uh, this is the pre Internet era fake news.
So the fact that the Leads family cress featured a wyvern.
I guess let's say you say that Weaver a two
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legged wing dragon, only made the lie more believable and
helped to permanently, permanently brand the family as diabolical.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh you like that word, that diabolical, diabolical in the
public eye. Yes, short turn, but you said diabolical. Now
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a week of terror. While the legend had existed for
over a century, the Jersey Devil became a national phenomena
during a week long period of intense sightings from January
sixteenth to January twenty third of nineteen oh nine.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You forgot to tell what it actually was called.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
It was called the Great nineteen oh nine Flap. Flap
as the Week of Terror. Now. For seven days, the
Delaware Valley was gripped by panic. Schools actually closed, factories
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shut down, and armed vigilante groups roamed the countryside in
search of the beast.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Thousands of people, many of them highly credle credible citizens
like police officers, business owners, and postal workers. Yeah, because
None of those people lie.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
And this is true story. I mean, this really happened
in nineteen oh nine.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Claimed to have seen the creature or its stranged, cloven
hoofed prints in the snow. And think about that. Diabolical.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, that's diabolical.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So police Patrolman James Sackville from Bristol, Pennsylvania, on the
evening of January eighteenth, Patrolman Sackville was walking his beat
when he heard a tremendous commotion from a nearby canal.
He found a massive creature with wings hopping like a
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bird on the towpath. Now, he drew his pistol and fired,
but the winged beasts merely took flight and swared into
the night sky. But that's crazy, that's pretty diabolical.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
So the black Hawk Social Club, Camden, New Jersey, saloon
owner Frank Rowe was in his club when an uncanny
sound from outside drew his attention. That's what a sunblant
through through a back window. There a creature with a
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horse like head and wings stared back at him. When
others in the club saw it, they fled. They was
they was afraid it.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Was that was a feared there's a fear in something, and.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So Frank stood his ground though with the large club
he was going to club it, and the creature flew
off and emitting its It emitted its blood, curling screams. Yeah,
that's a good little.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Pete and repeat said on log pete fell off. It
was left. Now the Whites of Philadelphia, Now, this is
one of the most terrifying accounts, and it comes from
mister and missus J. H. White of Philadelphia. Now, on
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January nineteenth, Missus White was in her backyard with a
load of laundry when she saw a six foot tall
alligator like creature crouching nearby. Now, it stood up, looked
at her, and then spewed flames from its mouth.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
WHOA, it's a dragon.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I think she was on some good drugs, causing her
to faint in terror. Now, her husband, hearing her scream,
ran outside to find her on the ground and witnessed
the creature leaping over the back fence while still shooting
fire at him as he gave chase. Now, the media
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frenzy fuelled the hysteria, with local newspapers running breathless front
page stories with dramatic illustrations. Reputable institutions got involved in
the Philadelphia Zoo offered a ten thousand dollars reward for
the creature's capture, which still remains uncollected to this day.
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A showman in Philadelphia seized the opportunity for a hoax,
displaying a kangaroo with fake wings and a green stripes
as captured the Jersey Devil. So this right here kind
of shows how desperate the public was to see a monster.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, it's a side show, yes. So while that nineteen
o nine flap remains, the most famous sightings of the
Jersey Devil have been reported for centuries and early eighteen hundreds.
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Stephen de Commodore Stephen Decatur. Now this is according to legend,
the naval hero was at the Hanover millworks in the
pine Lands when he spotted a flying creature. He allegedly
fired a cannonball at it, but the shot had no
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effect and the creature flew away. The account by a
man of his stature gave the legend a lot of credibility, right,
I mean, Commodore Stephen Decatur. Yeah. In eighteen twenty, Joseph Bonaparte,
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Napoleon Bonaparte's older brother, who lived in Bordentown, New Jersey,
because he was in exile, he claimed to have seen
the Jersey Devil while hunting on his estate. He described
a large, large, winged creature with a horse like head
and a bird like legs and a count that further
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solidified the legend among the state's elite. Napoleon Bonaparte's brother. Yeah,
it's crazy, right, Joseph.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I wonder if they still own property.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Maybe a biggest state. I'd say it's still you know,
in the family.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Shmm.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Funny. So in nineteen twenty seven, Salem City, New Jersey,
there was a taxi driver that claimed he was changing
a flat tire late at night when he heard strange screams.
He said that the creature reportedly flew towards him before vanishing.
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Does that sound like interesting? It just sounds like dimensional. Yeah,
maybe portal holy smokes. Bonapart brother. Yeah, his older brother
and that interesting, Jason, that's pretty interesting. Now. In nineteen
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seventy two, Green Tree Road, New Jersey, Mary Ritzer Christiansen
reported seeing a winged wooly creature with a horse's head
actually crossed the road while she was driving, so it
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was a road sighting.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Wooly creature.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, maybe it was. When when did it happen? Did
it say that month? It didn't Maybe you had a
fur coat on. Maybe it was winter. It's kind of
cold up here in the winter, you know, it might
have had its winter fur Yeah, maybe twenty fifteen. Getting closer.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Dang the Galloway Township, New Jersey, fran Copala, the owner
of a local inn, claimed to have seen a wing
creature hovering over her as she was taken out the trash.
She didn't feel no fear, but was struck by the
unmistakable shadow above her.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, there is a few theories.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Not a feared of it.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
No, there is a There's a few theories and explanations.
Some of them's good, some of them that's weird.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
The good thing is is that we throw them out
when people could take whatever it is that they like,
you know, I mean you think I like them all.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah. There's no single definitive explanation as is that to
account for the multitude of sightings. The proposed theories range
from the mundane to the bizarre, often intertwined with the
historical and psychological factors of the error, in which the
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sidings occurred.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Makes sense. So the first one is that people say
that it was a misidentified animal. Now this theory is
the most common and rational explanation. Now it says that
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the Jersey devil is simply a case of mistaken identity.
The dense, swampy environments of the pine barrens is home
to a variety of unique and elusive wildlife, so the
sand hill crane this is most popular candidate. The sand
hill crane is a tall, graceful bird that stands up
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to five feet tall. It has a distinctive red patch
on its head and a peculiar rattling call that can
sound otherworldly, especially in the stillness of the pine barrens now.
In flight, their long legs dangle behind them, which, combined
with their large wingspan, could easily be misidentified as a
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fantastical creature by an observer who gets a quick partial
glimpse in the dark.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Oh, so you got the great horned owl. This is
a nocturnal predator. It's known for its wide piercing eyes,
deep hooting galls, and its silent flight. When viewed at night,
its tough head and unusual silhouette could easily be misinterpreted
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as bizarre, a bizarre horned creature.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Right, yeah, horned owls. I mean those feathers on the
top do are pretty pronounced.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
So the possibility of an escape to released exotic animals
is another theory, such as a kangaroo, an emu, or
a deformed domestic animal. And it's also been suggested such
an animal, unfamiliar to the local population and moving strangely
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through the pines could quickly be elevated to monstrous in
local lore.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah that makes sense, yep. Now the fable and smear
campaign theory. This explanation des into the historical context of
the legend's origins, which suggests it was never a monster
but a work of calculated propaganda. The Leeds family prominence
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in their competition with figures like Benjamin Franklin, which created
a motive for a powerful and lasting spear campaign. Now,
the story of a devil child was the perfect tool
to demonize a political and religious opponent. I could see it.
That's what happened. You know, when most of the witches
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were burned, they just pointed a finger. Yeah, yeah, you're right, Jason.
It is crazy how they did find the hoof prints and.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Tracks So the mass histeria of nineteen oh nine has
been a particular interest to so sociologist, sociologists.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Sociologists, psychologists, psychologist stuff psychologists, sociologists, and psychologist.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Sociologist. Yep, yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
You got it word?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
You know. They argue that the event was less about
a real creature and more about a collective delusion fueled
by fear.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I have problems with that kind of stuff. That for me, like, Eh,
all of you people are just mass hallucinating. Get out
of here. No, that ain't the way this stuff works,
you know, No, no mass hysteria.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, so then you got the fake news part of
it too. The nineteen oh nine sightings occurred during a
period of heavy snowfall, which created a perfect canvas for
footprints and led to an isolated population. Newspapers desperate to
sell copies, ran front page stories with sensational headings. We
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call them blinky yes clickbait nowadays yeah, click baby desperate
to sell copies, I mean, and it created a positive
feedback loop. The more stories that were reported, the more
people that claim to see the creature. So this solidified
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its reality in the public mind.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Right now, you've got storytellers. Yeah, it's a folklore. Folklore. Now,
the legend was already in powerful, a powerful part of
the local folklore. Much like a game of telephone, The
core story likely evolved over time, with new te tells
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added by each generation of storytellers. Now, the legend in
this context served as a moral lesson about the dangers
of cursing one's children and the presence of evil in
the world. What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, I don't know what you.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Well, you know. The Jersey Devil is most likely combination
of these explanations. The legends origins may lie in a
political sphere campaign or a tragic medical anomaly, with the
story then amplified by a rich tradition of local storytelling
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or a diabolical curse. Yes, this foundation, combined with the
power of collective hysteria and media sensationalism during a key
moment in history, created a legendary creature that has endured
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long after the initial fear subsided. Now, whether a product
of human imagination or a glimpse into a hidden, terrifying world,
the Jersey Devil is an indeligable part of New Jersey's identity,
which all kind of reminds us of the unknown and
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what they lurked just beyond the edge of civilization.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
You think we used that button enough? No hit it
one more time?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
And I think Jason Finch is right now, legend always
begins with the sighting, right, Yeah, And you know that's
kind of what it's said in the conclusion of this.
You know, it's very likely that it's a culmination of
all these things, right. It's maybe it is partially political smear,
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partially a madic medical anomaly. So you know it really
was born weird like that. Yeah, And then you take
storytelling and folklore and everything and you kind of combine it,
combine it all together, and what do you get this? All? Right? Oh,
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baby girl, Casper made.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
It too bad. It's over.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
It's okay. She could always go back and watch it,
and go back and watch it. I want to thank
everybody that has been voting for me. I'm number four
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Please vote for me every day if you can. That
was a rough storm? Was it pretty bad up your way?
Baby girl? It didn't hit here too bad today? Now
last night it was really bad here today It hasn't
been bad at all. So I want to take this
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time real quick though, because we got two new books out.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Oh yes, we do.
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This one right here. It's our companion book. So if
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Hold it up a little bit. Uh oh, you're on
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Speaker 2 (36:10):
Baby girl says her dog was terrified of its terrified
of storms. She woke her up and scared in the
middle of the night.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
My puppy dog, once she goes to sleep, she doesn't
wake up for nothing, not even to pee or anything.
She's a good girl. Now, what was funny is that
the cat jumped up as soon as it started last night,
jumped up, looked around and took off. The cat didn't
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like it at all. So it was a heck of
a storm for sure. Today we've had a few little.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Rains.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I guess you could call them, but no real big storm,
not the major here. Hope you enjoyed the show tonight. Yep,
we had fun.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
This Saturday, we won't have a guess, but we will
still be doing a show. Yes, we got to figure
out what we're going to talk about. We'll figure it
out and then we'll be back Saturday at eight pm.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yes, eighty one degrees. Wow, Wow, it's not that here.
I mean I think maybe the high of the day
got in the eighties today.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It's not been too bad. I mean we've been in
the upper seventies, low eighties all week.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
So baby girl says anything loud wind, rain, loud vehicles, guns,
our works, you damn it. She's scared. That's crazy. So
it's gonna cool down fast. Yeah. I've been up through
Washington quite a few times. It's where I had my
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bigfoot sighting Jason, And you know, I was over the
road truck driver before we was the wife and I
when we were team driving. We was up that way
a lot up in Washington, and I'll tell you a
funny story. And we was up you know, closer to
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Seattle where we was dropping off and the truck broke down,
so we had to get a motel room, and I
think we stayed like two days, maybe even three, I
don't remember, but I think it was two days. But
the sun actually came out like that second day we
were there, and everybody, I don't think they get much
(38:58):
sun there. I think it's all ways like overcast and
cloudy and stuff. I remember every time we went it
was very overcast and cloudy there. But there wasn't a
single person that told the wife and I go out
and enjoy the sun. It's the sun shining outside. Everybody.
It was crazy. It was like, man, dang baby girls
(39:25):
is sixty two in Wisconsin where a daughter lives. That's insane.
Jason says, his dog's afraid of loud noises. Chevelle nice name. Yeah,
always cloudy and overcast. That's I have a joke, and
(39:45):
it's a joke, but I think it's funny. I know
why grunge came from up there, because you know, it's
never sunny never, I mean, and just think. I mean,
we're truck We were truck drivers, so we were there
a day or two a week almost, so we didn't
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get to see the place all the time. But every
time we went, it was like this right here outside
always there's never any full sun, no vitamin D. It
was crazy, It really was crazy. Yeah, but that's why
I said grunge came from there, yep. And they've got
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to have a really high rate of people that decide
that it's not worth it and just jump off bridges
and stuff. Got to have a real high break because
I don't know, I can't imagine not having sun. I
can't imagine it. But they've got some beautiful mountains up
(40:51):
there though. Yeah, yeah, snow qualmi is Is is massive.
It's a massive mountain and but it's it's beautiful up
through there, really is, and it is what its name
says too. During the wintertime, it snows like a mother.
You can start at the bottom of that thing and
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it'd be all right, and you get to the top
of it and it'd be tons of snow. So I
have a Chevy Nova. Okay, she's my son's dog, Yellow,
got you my dogs? Okay, all right, Well, I hope
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part of everything. We really appreciate you, and we hope
to see everybody on Saturday. Yes, we're gonna do something.
We'll find something to do. It ain't raining. Maybe we'll
find a lot of investigation or something.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Mhm.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Okay, my dad and grandpa nambor I was working on
a nose Chevy car. That's awesome. Yeah, so uh but
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I thought the wife, I said, I think this year
is going to end like it began. You know, it
was like we have four months of rain instead of
like two, and it seems like we had a I mean,
it was pretty hot summer, but it seems like it's
going to be It.
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Was a little dry summer, I think.
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But we had an extra extra month of rain too.
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Yeah, and so you know, uh, now it seems like
it's going to end with rain again.
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I hope not. I'm sick of it already, are you? Yeah?
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Ah, you like rain. I don't know. It's hard to
get stuff done around the house when it rained. Yeah,
like this Saturday, I need to get a lot of
stuff outside cleaned up, you know, so then when people
come look at the house, it's the yard is you know,
looking better and stuff like that. Yep, so we could
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sell the house.
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So h we got a pretty good show tonight.
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Uh.
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We've never really done nothing on this before, maybe just
in just speaking of it, I mean, but we've never
done a whole show.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah. Absolutely, What was that devil? I did? Like computer?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah? So yeah, this is the legend of the Jersey Devil.
Hopefully you guys will like this little story. Yes, story
Thursday story time. Yes, David, Yes you ready? Yes, I'm ready.
Jason Fence, you ready, Baby Girl Casper?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Anybody else on.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Baby Girl? Casper's in here, I know unless she got
no power again yep.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Jason says, there's Jersey Devil movies that I love to watch, Like,
I'm ready. Let's do it, Les, do it? You want
me to start it?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Don't matter, go ahead, you got it? Okay? So, uh,
you know the Legend of the Jersey Devil. It's also
known as the Leads Devil.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Now. It is one of America's most enduring and kind
of perplexing cryptozoological mysteries. Now it is rooted in uh
the Dance Forbidding wilderness of the New Jersey Pine Barons.
There we go, which is a vast untamed expanse of
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pinelands and cedar swamps that blankets a fifth of the state. Now,
this krypton's history is rich in folklore and religious conflict
and some mass hysteria.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Now, for centuries, the Jersey Devil has been a source
of both terror and fascination. So let's see if I can, Yeah,
keep on reading this here. It didn't want to page,
didn't want to keep on going.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
While you're doing that. And I'm gonna show them a
picture wanted beware the Joysy devil, the Jersey Devil. It
says it looks like a kangaroo with wings.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Might depend in kangaroo with wings, Yes, with wings?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Thousand dollars reward for it. That's crazy. And there was
sightings when we get into this. There's a few sightings
way back in there.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, yeah, there's some pretty crazy sightings. Now. The New
Jersey Pine Barrens is a vast untamed expanse of pinelands
and cedar swamps that blankets a fifth of the state. Now,
this cryptid's history is a rich tapestry of folklore. For centuries,
(05:20):
the Jersey Devil has been a source of both terror
and fascination. Its reputation was cemented by a flood of
reputable eyewitness accounts and a bizarre, inconsistent physical description. Now
this is a creature born of fire and fear. It
(05:40):
is a phantom of the pines and has haunted the
American imagination for nearly three hundred years. Three hundred years
long time, Yeah, Jason Finch says, the New Jersey Pine
Barons are beautiful. I don't think I have seen them.
I might as a truck driver, I might have grow
through them, but I don't remember, because I've been all
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up through every bit of that. Now it's kind of
a confluence of creatures. The New Jersey Devil is a
true chimera of the animal kingdom. Its general description is
that of very strange and contradictory. So common eyewitness accounts
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often described a bipedal, winged creature with hoofs, but now
the details very widely, suggesting either multiple creatures or the
wildly desperate nature of human observation under duress. Now, the
most widespread spread description paints a picture of a creature
(06:58):
with a body of a kangaroo, the head of a horse, leathery,
bat like wings that extend in a huge wingspand spindly
legs ending in hoofs or sharp claws, and some witnesses
have also reported a forked tail and a grotesque face
(07:20):
with glowing red eyes. About that, Jason, I think it's
pretty crazy. Very creepy, that's what Jason Finn says. Yes,
very creepy. Now, other accounts have also described its body
as resembling a reptilian alligator. Oh yeah, so this also
(07:42):
shows the diversion, often terrifying nature of the sightings. Now,
this creature is said to move with an unusual hopping gait,
and it emits a blood curdling screen that has been
compared to a woman's shriek hopping gate. It's kind of
like a kangaroo.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Might be park kangaroo.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Maybe maybe it's a experiment gone wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
There some crazy experiments up there.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Right, So it has a blood curdling screen that has
been compared to a woman shriek, a terrified horse, or
the grinding of a rusty gate. Now, it is this
strange combination of features how it flies, the hopping the
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head of a horse that kind of makes a jersey
devil baffling. This has led a variety of nicknames, including
the Kangaroo Horse, the Flying Death, the cowbird. The sheer
impossibility of its form is what makes it so terrifying
(08:59):
andfficult to dismiss.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, I'd like to see a cowbird.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I wasn't I going up there and seeing one?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Or it?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
What what's interesting is it's been around for hundreds of years.
I mean people have cited it, right, there's witnesses for it,
and it's really a crazy looking thing.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
For me, I'm wondering, though, we'll go into the wou
for a second. Do you think that it is possible?
I mean, besides the legends and the birthing legends and
stuff that I'm sure you're about to talk about, do
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you not think that's something like this though, would almost
be say, interdepensional.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah. Or it could have been conjured up something that
comes from somewhere else, Yeah, one way or another. Yeah,
could have been conjured up by witches or shamon or anything. Really.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well, so the most famous origin story, this is the
most famous one. Now it traces the Jersey Devil back
to the Leeds family in the eighteenth century. Yes, so
the central figure is Mother Leeds. Now, she was a
woman living in the pine barrens, who already burdened with
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twelve children. Twelve children, Yes, I'd hate to be the papa.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, nope, I would be moving to somewhere else. Yeah,
an extradition country she wanted.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
She was exasperated upon learning she was pregnant again. Okay,
because she had already had twelve children, I could understand. So,
in a fit of in a fit of desperation and poverty,
she allegedly cursed her thirteenth unborn child on a dark,
stormy night in seventeen thirty five.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No, what happens when you cursed your own kid?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Now, she was said to have cried out, Let this
one be the devil you passed up? Yeah that is Yeah. So,
as her friends and family gathered, the child was born,
and it appeared normal. But within minutes minutes it underwent
(11:57):
a monstrous transformation spooky rough. Its small body began to swell,
and its face was all contorted into like it was
into like a horse, and its arms morphed into long
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membranes of wings. Yeah, it shrieked and screamed, spooky, dooky bear. Normal,
So it shrieked and screamed. Reportedly, killing the attending midwife
and some of its siblings before flying up the chimney
and vanishing into the pine barrens. Dang just born and
(12:44):
already gone. Eh, it was a newborn and sey, so
it left behind a trail of tear and smoke. The
thirteenth child a number already considered unlucky in folkal So
it became the monstrous symbol of a mother's curse. However, however,
(13:09):
we do have a However, historical and scholarly analysis suggests
its origin might be more complex than a simple tale
of a cursed child. Some researchers proposed that this legend
was a form of colonial air smear campaign against the
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Leeds family. They were a prominent landowners and Quakers, so
the family patriarch eight Quaker. So the family patriarch, Daniel Leeds,
was a He was a controversial figure who published a
competing almanac that rivaled that of the most famous American
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of his time, Benjamin Frams. Oh So, Franklin and his allies,
who had a political and religious grievances with the Leads,
may have seized on the family's name to spread rumors
of a demonic birth.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, not demonic demonic.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
You know that's a powerful form of fake news, right,
that is uh, this is the pre Internet era fake news.
So the fact that the Leads family cress featured a wyvern.
I guess let's say you say that Weaver a two
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legged wing dragon, only made the lie more believable and
helped to permanently, permanently brand the family as diabolical.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh you like that word, that diabolical, diabolical in the
public eye. Yes, short turn, but you said diabolical. Now
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a week of terror. While the legend had existed for
over a century, the Jersey Devil became a national phenomena
during a week long period of intense sightings from January
sixteenth to January twenty third of nineteen oh nine.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You forgot to tell what it actually was called.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
It was called the Great nineteen oh nine Flap. Flap
as the Week of Terror. Now. For seven days, the
Delaware Valley was gripped by panic. Schools actually closed, factories
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shut down, and armed vigilante groups roamed the countryside in
search of the beast.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Thousands of people, many of them highly credle credible citizens
like police officers, business owners, and postal workers. Yeah, because
None of those people lie.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
And this is true story. I mean, this really happened
in nineteen oh nine.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Claimed to have seen the creature or its stranged, cloven
hoofed prints in the snow. And think about that. Diabolical.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, that's diabolical.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So police Patrolman James Sackville from Bristol, Pennsylvania, on the
evening of January eighteenth, Patrolman Sackville was walking his beat
when he heard a tremendous commotion from a nearby canal.
He found a massive creature with wings hopping like a
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bird on the towpath. Now, he drew his pistol and fired,
but the winged beasts merely took flight and swared into
the night sky. But that's crazy, that's pretty diabolical.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
So the black Hawk Social Club, Camden, New Jersey, saloon
owner Frank Rowe was in his club when an uncanny
sound from outside drew his attention. That's what a sunblant
through through a back window. There a creature with a
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horse like head and wings stared back at him. When
others in the club saw it, they fled. They was
they was afraid it.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Was that was a feared there's a fear in something, and.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So Frank stood his ground though with the large club
he was going to club it, and the creature flew
off and emitting its It emitted its blood, curling screams. Yeah,
that's a good little.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Pete and repeat said on log pete fell off. It
was left. Now the Whites of Philadelphia, Now, this is
one of the most terrifying accounts, and it comes from
mister and missus J. H. White of Philadelphia. Now, on
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January nineteenth, Missus White was in her backyard with a
load of laundry when she saw a six foot tall
alligator like creature crouching nearby. Now, it stood up, looked
at her, and then spewed flames from its mouth.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
WHOA, it's a dragon.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I think she was on some good drugs, causing her
to faint in terror. Now, her husband, hearing her scream,
ran outside to find her on the ground and witnessed
the creature leaping over the back fence while still shooting
fire at him as he gave chase. Now, the media
(19:27):
frenzy fuelled the hysteria, with local newspapers running breathless front
page stories with dramatic illustrations. Reputable institutions got involved in
the Philadelphia Zoo offered a ten thousand dollars reward for
the creature's capture, which still remains uncollected to this day.
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A showman in Philadelphia seized the opportunity for a hoax,
displaying a kangaroo with fake wings and a green stripes
as captured the Jersey Devil. So this right here kind
of shows how desperate the public was to see a monster.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, it's a side show, yes. So while that nineteen
o nine flap remains, the most famous sightings of the
Jersey Devil have been reported for centuries and early eighteen hundreds.
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Stephen de Commodore Stephen Decatur. Now this is according to legend,
the naval hero was at the Hanover millworks in the
pine Lands when he spotted a flying creature. He allegedly
fired a cannonball at it, but the shot had no
(20:51):
effect and the creature flew away. The account by a
man of his stature gave the legend a lot of credibility, right,
I mean, Commodore Stephen Decatur. Yeah. In eighteen twenty, Joseph Bonaparte,
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Napoleon Bonaparte's older brother, who lived in Bordentown, New Jersey,
because he was in exile, he claimed to have seen
the Jersey Devil while hunting on his estate. He described
a large, large, winged creature with a horse like head
and a bird like legs and a count that further
(21:38):
solidified the legend among the state's elite. Napoleon Bonaparte's brother. Yeah,
it's crazy, right, Joseph.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I wonder if they still own property.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Maybe a biggest state. I'd say it's still you know,
in the family.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Shmm.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Funny. So in nineteen twenty seven, Salem City, New Jersey,
there was a taxi driver that claimed he was changing
a flat tire late at night when he heard strange screams.
He said that the creature reportedly flew towards him before vanishing.
(22:26):
Does that sound like interesting? It just sounds like dimensional. Yeah,
maybe portal holy smokes. Bonapart brother. Yeah, his older brother
and that interesting, Jason, that's pretty interesting. Now. In nineteen
(22:49):
seventy two, Green Tree Road, New Jersey, Mary Ritzer Christiansen
reported seeing a winged wooly creature with a horse's head
actually crossed the road while she was driving, so it
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was a road sighting.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Wooly creature.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, maybe it was. When when did it happen? Did
it say that month? It didn't Maybe you had a
fur coat on. Maybe it was winter. It's kind of
cold up here in the winter, you know, it might
have had its winter fur Yeah, maybe twenty fifteen. Getting closer.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Dang the Galloway Township, New Jersey, fran Copala, the owner
of a local inn, claimed to have seen a wing
creature hovering over her as she was taken out the trash.
She didn't feel no fear, but was struck by the
unmistakable shadow above her.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yeah, there is a few theories.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Not a feared of it.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
No, there is a There's a few theories and explanations.
Some of them's good, some of them that's weird.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
The good thing is is that we throw them out
when people could take whatever it is that they like,
you know, I mean you think I like them all.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah. There's no single definitive explanation as is that to
account for the multitude of sightings. The proposed theories range
from the mundane to the bizarre, often intertwined with the
historical and psychological factors of the error, in which the
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sidings occurred.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Makes sense. So the first one is that people say
that it was a misidentified animal. Now this theory is
the most common and rational explanation. Now it says that
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the Jersey devil is simply a case of mistaken identity.
The dense, swampy environments of the pine barrens is home
to a variety of unique and elusive wildlife, so the
sand hill crane this is most popular candidate. The sand
hill crane is a tall, graceful bird that stands up
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to five feet tall. It has a distinctive red patch
on its head and a peculiar rattling call that can
sound otherworldly, especially in the stillness of the pine barrens now.
In flight, their long legs dangle behind them, which, combined
with their large wingspan, could easily be misidentified as a
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fantastical creature by an observer who gets a quick partial
glimpse in the dark.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Oh, so you got the great horned owl. This is
a nocturnal predator. It's known for its wide piercing eyes,
deep hooting galls, and its silent flight. When viewed at night,
its tough head and unusual silhouette could easily be misinterpreted
(26:40):
as bizarre, a bizarre horned creature.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Right, yeah, horned owls. I mean those feathers on the
top do are pretty pronounced.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
So the possibility of an escape to released exotic animals
is another theory, such as a kangaroo, an emu, or
a deformed domestic animal. And it's also been suggested such
an animal, unfamiliar to the local population and moving strangely
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through the pines could quickly be elevated to monstrous in
local lore.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah that makes sense, yep. Now the fable and smear
campaign theory. This explanation des into the historical context of
the legend's origins, which suggests it was never a monster
but a work of calculated propaganda. The Leeds family prominence
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in their competition with figures like Benjamin Franklin, which created
a motive for a powerful and lasting spear campaign. Now,
the story of a devil child was the perfect tool
to demonize a political and religious opponent. I could see it.
That's what happened. You know, when most of the witches
(28:04):
were burned, they just pointed a finger. Yeah, yeah, you're right, Jason.
It is crazy how they did find the hoof prints and.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Tracks So the mass histeria of nineteen oh nine has
been a particular interest to so sociologist, sociologists.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Sociologists, psychologists, psychologist stuff psychologists, sociologists, and psychologist.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Sociologist. Yep, yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
You got it word?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
You know. They argue that the event was less about
a real creature and more about a collective delusion fueled
by fear.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I have problems with that kind of stuff. That for me, like, Eh,
all of you people are just mass hallucinating. Get out
of here. No, that ain't the way this stuff works,
you know, No, no mass hysteria.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, so then you got the fake news part of
it too. The nineteen oh nine sightings occurred during a
period of heavy snowfall, which created a perfect canvas for
footprints and led to an isolated population. Newspapers desperate to
sell copies, ran front page stories with sensational headings. We
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call them blinky yes clickbait nowadays yeah, click baby desperate
to sell copies, I mean, and it created a positive
feedback loop. The more stories that were reported, the more
people that claim to see the creature. So this solidified
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its reality in the public mind.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Right now, you've got storytellers. Yeah, it's a folklore. Folklore. Now,
the legend was already in powerful, a powerful part of
the local folklore. Much like a game of telephone, The
core story likely evolved over time, with new te tells
(30:36):
added by each generation of storytellers. Now, the legend in
this context served as a moral lesson about the dangers
of cursing one's children and the presence of evil in
the world. What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, I don't know what you.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Well, you know. The Jersey Devil is most likely combination
of these explanations. The legends origins may lie in a
political sphere campaign or a tragic medical anomaly, with the
story then amplified by a rich tradition of local storytelling
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or a diabolical curse. Yes, this foundation, combined with the
power of collective hysteria and media sensationalism during a key
moment in history, created a legendary creature that has endured
(31:42):
long after the initial fear subsided. Now, whether a product
of human imagination or a glimpse into a hidden, terrifying world,
the Jersey Devil is an indeligable part of New Jersey's identity,
which all kind of reminds us of the unknown and
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what they lurked just beyond the edge of civilization.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
You think we used that button enough? No hit it
one more time?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
And I think Jason Finch is right now, legend always
begins with the sighting, right, Yeah, And you know that's
kind of what it's said in the conclusion of this.
You know, it's very likely that it's a culmination of
all these things, right. It's maybe it is partially political smear,
(32:44):
partially a madic medical anomaly. So you know it really
was born weird like that. Yeah, And then you take
storytelling and folklore and everything and you kind of combine it,
combine it all together, and what do you get this? All? Right? Oh,
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baby girl, Casper made.
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It too bad. It's over.
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Please vote for me every day if you can. That
was a rough storm? Was it pretty bad up your way?
Baby girl? It didn't hit here too bad today? Now
last night it was really bad here today It hasn't
been bad at all. So I want to take this
(33:52):
time real quick though, because we got two new books out.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Oh yes, we do.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
This one right here. It's our companion book. So if
I get right in the camera, So this is our
companion book. It's actually a notebook for when you're doing
paranormal investigations. It's pretty neat, pretty cool. Each two pages,
(34:27):
so page one, page two is one investigation. So you
start here, you feel it all out as you do
your investigation or after your investigation. However, it's easier for
you to do just helps you keep up with each
and every investigation. So just to let you know, it's
kind of neat. That is the Haunted Ledger. Remember that
(34:52):
that can be found on Amazon right where you could
go to our website paranorm This one you won't be
able to see because it's green and the green screen
really messes with that. Look at that you can see
you meet through it, can't you. So it's a comprehensive
guide to paranormal investigations. This one. Yeah, if you do
(35:14):
it just right, look you can see through it. You
could read it though, but this book is really nice.
It walks you through.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
How about that all.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
The stuff that you need to become a paranormal investigator.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Hold it up a little bit. Uh oh, you're on
the delay.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, if you look at our cred of there, okay, yeah, so,
but a comprehensive guide to paranormal investigations. So just to
let you know, and that's also on Amazon. We're on
our website at Paranormal one. And then of course you
know the one that's been out for are those two
years now? Yeah, at least I know over a year, right,
(36:01):
So it's our East Tennessee Hauntings in lower addition two.
So I just want to take that time to go
through that for you.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Baby girl says her dog was terrified of its terrified
of storms. She woke her up and scared in the
middle of the night.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
My puppy dog, once she goes to sleep, she doesn't
wake up for nothing, not even to pee or anything.
She's a good girl. Now, what was funny is that
the cat jumped up as soon as it started last night,
jumped up, looked around and took off. The cat didn't
(36:43):
like it at all. So it was a heck of
a storm for sure. Today we've had a few little.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
Rains.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I guess you could call them, but no real big storm,
not the major here. Hope you enjoyed the show tonight. Yep,
we had fun.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
This Saturday, we won't have a guess, but we will
still be doing a show. Yes, we got to figure
out what we're going to talk about. We'll figure it
out and then we'll be back Saturday at eight pm.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yes, eighty one degrees. Wow, Wow, it's not that here.
I mean I think maybe the high of the day
got in the eighties today.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
It's not been too bad. I mean we've been in
the upper seventies, low eighties all week.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
So baby girl says anything loud wind, rain, loud vehicles, guns,
our works, you damn it. She's scared. That's crazy. So
it's gonna cool down fast. Yeah. I've been up through
Washington quite a few times. It's where I had my
(38:13):
bigfoot sighting Jason, And you know, I was over the
road truck driver before we was the wife and I
when we were team driving. We was up that way
a lot up in Washington, and I'll tell you a
funny story. And we was up you know, closer to
(38:35):
Seattle where we was dropping off and the truck broke down,
so we had to get a motel room, and I
think we stayed like two days, maybe even three, I
don't remember, but I think it was two days. But
the sun actually came out like that second day we
were there, and everybody, I don't think they get much
(38:58):
sun there. I think it's all ways like overcast and
cloudy and stuff. I remember every time we went it
was very overcast and cloudy there. But there wasn't a
single person that told the wife and I go out
and enjoy the sun. It's the sun shining outside. Everybody.
It was crazy. It was like, man, dang baby girls
(39:25):
is sixty two in Wisconsin where a daughter lives. That's insane.
Jason says, his dog's afraid of loud noises. Chevelle nice name. Yeah,
always cloudy and overcast. That's I have a joke, and
(39:45):
it's a joke, but I think it's funny. I know
why grunge came from up there, because you know, it's
never sunny never, I mean, and just think. I mean,
we're truck We were truck drivers, so we were there
a day or two a week almost, so we didn't
(40:07):
get to see the place all the time. But every
time we went, it was like this right here outside
always there's never any full sun, no vitamin D. It
was crazy, It really was crazy. Yeah, but that's why
I said grunge came from there, yep. And they've got
(40:30):
to have a really high rate of people that decide
that it's not worth it and just jump off bridges
and stuff. Got to have a real high break because
I don't know, I can't imagine not having sun. I
can't imagine it. But they've got some beautiful mountains up
(40:51):
there though. Yeah, yeah, snow qualmi is Is is massive.
It's a massive mountain and but it's it's beautiful up
through there, really is, and it is what its name
says too. During the wintertime, it snows like a mother.
You can start at the bottom of that thing and
(41:12):
it'd be all right, and you get to the top
of it and it'd be tons of snow. So I
have a Chevy Nova. Okay, she's my son's dog, Yellow,
got you my dogs? Okay, all right, Well, I hope
(41:37):
everybody liked the show. Thanks for tuning in and being
part of everything. We really appreciate you, and we hope
to see everybody on Saturday. Yes, we're gonna do something.
We'll find something to do. It ain't raining. Maybe we'll
find a lot of investigation or something.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Mhm.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Okay, my dad and grandpa nambor I was working on
a nose Chevy car. That's awesome. Yeah, so uh but
we'll see everybody on Saturday. Remember it's eight pm EAS
from Standard time and a PM a PM. So remember
(42:23):
you can find us at Paranormal dot org, one on Facebook,
YouTube x and rumble. Tune in live every Thursday from
seven to eight Saturdays from eight to ten. Remember also
on Saturdays. Even if you're in the meta Atlanta p
j y F one f M Now for listeners outside
(42:46):
of Atlanta, you can still listen at w d j
y f M dot comm or you can click the
link on our website. We're also on Subspace Radio on
all major podcast platforms. Remember our books out, they're all
on Amazon East Tennessee Hauntings in Lor Edition two, which
is a dable on Amazon. Poem I mean, you know,
(43:11):
join us, see you Saturday. Thank you, Thank you, baby girl.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Have you ever wondered what lurks in the shadows, what
secrets the night hides, what strange phenomena might be happening
just beyond your perception. Join us as we journey into
the world of the paranormal, exploring everything from ghosts and
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