July 24, 2025 • 39 mins
Join us as we explore the incredible details of these profound experiences: the out-of-body observations, the life reviews where every action's ripple effect is felt, and the emotional reunions with deceased loved ones. Prepare to be moved, intrigued, and maybe even find a new perspective on what lies beyond. Get ready to question reality and ponder the ultimate mystery: Is there truly life after death?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
By big footstomping through the paes Alien send the secret
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sience bvps in the day of night, ghosts in in
the pilm light, don't know before him what we bring
it to your truth Behind the fail gouta Pasilia talking
about the phrase the freaking the weird feel as we
tip around the DC quot all of us in the woods.
Team Preacher called from a timeless sleep n sensiatic freckling
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place singles probably a Lisa plead.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
All right, hey, guess what it's Thursday?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It is.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's Thursday.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Thanks everybody for showing up. Ooo. Writers so far is
the only one that said hey in the chap run,
what's up? What's up? How you doing? So tonight it's
gonna be kind of a short night.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
We're not gonna probably be a full hour show. We'll see,
but we're getting ready this Saturday, we will not have
a show, right Jason.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
That's right. The countdown is own. Yes, with a Smoky
Mountain Bigfoot Conference.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Hey, Michelle, Yes, Smoky Mountain Big Fuck Conference is here.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
So we'll be leaving out tomorrow tomorrow, so we could
go set up our booth and everything. So everybody that's
in the area.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Please come and say hi to us. If you got
any great stories, we love to hear them.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, it's in Gallenburg. If you can make it to Gallenburg,
go to the convention center Saturday, Yes, Saturday.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Saturday, Saturdays all day and shirts.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, and getting all your stories.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yes, loving the stories.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So David said something when I got in here. He said,
you shaved?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah. Do I look younger?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Jason looks like twenty years younger. What's up, Christina?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Christina? Do I look twenty years younger? I think he did.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I was like, man, now I'm gonna go. We're gonna
go to the conference, and I want to look like
an old man. Jason looks like a young pup again.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
What happened here?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
He found the fountain of youth and he's not telling Yeah,
I guess it's just a little shave. Shave and a haircut.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, I ain't got no heart to cut. So anyway
to lend you. Yeah, tonight, like David said, we're gonna
be talking about some nd stories. Yes, And if you
got anything in the that you want to mention in
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the chat, just feel free to do that and just
light her up, light her up. So we'll go ahead
and get started. We're going to do the music too.
So have you ever wondered what truly happens in someone
faces death and then comes back. In this show, we're
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going to dive into five unbelievable near death experiences from
real people who claim to have journeyed to the other side.
From a woman who observed her own brain surgery while
clinically dead, someone blind from birth who saw for the
very first time. So these first hand accounts will challenge
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everything you thought you knew about life, death, and unconsciousness.
So join us as we explore the incredible details of
these experiences, all the out of body observations, the life
reviews where every action's effect has felt, and the emotional
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reunions with deceased loved ones. Prepared to be moved, intrigued,
and maybe even find a new perspective on what lies beyond,
we'll get ready question reality and ponder the ultimate mystery.
Is there truly life after death? I think so, I know,
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so yeah, I know, So I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I'm pretty sure that there is.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
We'll see what Pam Reynolds yes thinks about this. This
one is crazy. So this one is pamal Reynolds.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
So make sure this.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Pam Reynolds was having some seriously complicated brain surgery back
in nineteen ninety one. Now we're talking about a procedure
where they basically had to cool her body down to
his super low temperatures, stop her heart, and even flatten
her brain activity. Now she was, by all medical definitions,
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clinically dead.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Now this is where it gets mind blowing.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
During this whole crazy process, Pam later claimed that she
had left her body. She said she was floating above
the operating table, looking down at the doctors that were
working on her. She even remembered hearing conversations and seeing
specific tools they were using.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Is that not crazy?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Now?
Speaker 5 (06:43):
What makes her story so incredibly compelling is the details
that she recalled. She mentioned a specific surgical instrument that
looked like a dental pick, and sure enough, the medical
staff confirmed they use something that fit that description. She
also remembered snippets of a conversations that were between the
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surgeons that she could not have possibly heard. Her ears
plugged and her brain activity flattened. It was like her
consciousness was totally separated from her body and her brain
and then able to observe everything that was happening around her,
even in that extreme state. Now, this case really makes
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you scratch her head and wonder what's going on when
someone dies. So after this incredible experience, Pam also described
being drawn towards a bright light. She encountered deceased loved
ones like her grandmother.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And an uncle.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
It wasn't just a fleeting image, she said, It felt
like a real interaction. It was full of peace and love.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
She felt a strong sense of being home and didn't
want to come back, But as often happens in NDEs,
she was told it was not her time and that
she had to return.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Now.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Her uncle and her account even had to push her
back into her body, which she described as feeling like
jumping into ice cold water. She was a stark contrast
to the warmth she had experienced. Her case remains one
of the most widely studied and debated indie accounts because
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of how well documented her medical condition was during the
alleged out of body observation. Now, some skeptics try to
explain it away with anesthesia awareness, but her surgeon himself
said she was in the deepest possible anesthetic state without
actually killing someone, where any consciousness recall should have been impossible.
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So this truly challenge is our understanding of consciousness and
what might happen when our physical bodies shut down.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Could you imagine being your body temperature lowered, your heart rate,
your heart stop, and them doing brain surgery on you,
and you could set and watch it happen.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I believe it because I myself out of obe. Yeah,
and it was just like that. I was looking down
at myself from the ceiling. And this is just one
out of millions probably of occurrences that happened.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
I'd tell a lot of people probably don't talk about it. Yeah,
Christina says, you're always handsome.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
That's right, baby. So our next, Our next one is
Vicky U. And this is the person of that scene
for the very first time. So her story is just
incredible because she was born totally blind, like, never seen
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a single thing, no light, no shadows, nothing. Her dreams
weren't even visual. That's that's weird, ain't it, not being
able to see in your dreams? Yeah, So they were
just about touch, taste, and sound and smell. So imagine
her surprise when during a near death experience after she
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had a serious car accident that left her in a coma,
she suddenly could see. She described herself floating above her body,
which is normal for that, because I did. It was weird.
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She was floating above her body in the hospital and
was looking down on herself, her own wedding ring in
her hair. It must have been completely disorienting and even
a little scary at first when she had no prior
concept of sight. That would be weird.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I've never seen in your whole life, and then all
of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You can see.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
You can see, and you see yourself in wonder how
you would be able to know if that's me because
you've never seen yourself, so you wouldn't know what other
your hair was.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
You wouldn't know. Yeah, things that we.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Used, you know, every day to identify ourselves.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I think that goes. I mean, just imagine you as
an energy spirit and this body is broken and it
don't have all the fools that once outside of that body,
you have all the tools you need in your so you.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Just have an awareness as you then.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Weird, Yeah, it's cool, So it didn't stop there. Vicky
then describe being drawn to this beautiful, brightly lit place
that was full of trees, birds, and people, all made
of light. Now she could see them, and it was
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overwhelming and incredibly beautiful to her. You know, someone who
had never experienced anything visual before. She talked about feeling
love from everything around her, the grass, the birds, the trees,
and especially the people. It sounds like an explosion of
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sensory experience someone who could live in complete darkness experience.
She also encountered several people she knew who had passed away,
including two of her blind and intellectually disabled schoolmates, who
appeared healthy, vibrant in their prime. She saw her childhood
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caretakers and her grandmother who had raised her. These encounters
were described as full of recognition, love, and great joy.
It really makes you think about what sight truly means,
and if it's something more than just our physical eyes
and brain that's interpreting light. So eventually, Vicki was told
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it wasn't her time to stay in this beautiful place,
and that she had to go back. She was understandably disappointed,
protesting that she wanted to stay with her loved ones,
but she eventually consented, and the transition back into her
body was described as excruciatingly painful, heavy her experience is
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a very profound example of how your death and involved
perception beyond her known senses, especially in cases where physical
senses were never present to begin with.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Now that would be interesting, you know, where you have.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
The fact that.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Someone that has never seen before in their whole life,
and now all of a sudden they can see.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, it's pretty wild. I don't know if you.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Did overly over stoked oscars. No, I don't think she
ever told us about that. Yeah, that's interesting. So he
had an NDE, Well.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I had a I think I had it maybe been
it might have been in the I could have whit
breathing in my sleep or something. But I was on
this ceiling and I was looking down, and it was
like pulling me away and away and away. I was
trying to yank you up, yeah, from your body. And
I said no, he said, hey, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
It is.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It's scary though. Now.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
One of the most powerful parts of many near death
experiences is something called the life review.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It's not just like.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Watching a highlight reel of your life. It's only a
lot more than that. It's more intense and more immersive.
Most people describe it as seeing their entire laugh, life
flash in front of their eyes, but in a totally
non judgmental way. So every every single moment, every interaction,
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every word spoken, every decision made comes into a crystal
clear focus. It's almost simultaneous. It's like you're revealing or
reliving it all, but with perfect clarity and understanding.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
That would be weird, m.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Especially as you get older and things get further away,
they're not as clear as they once were.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You know, right now.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
What truly sets us apart is the element of shared emotions.
It's not just seeing what you did, but feeling the
ripple effect of yours and words on other.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Era went, oh no, can you still hear us? Probably can?
Oh go stream?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
We may have been blinded now, Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
All right, we might be getting it here in a minute. Yeah,
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m hm hm hm hmm.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
We've we've had some technical difficulties.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
We have.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
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Speaker 5 (20:40):
Hm looks like we have no background, no background, Sorry everybody,
but it's.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
There are things.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yep, background isn't working. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
That's why we're going to have to do away with
green screen at some point. Yeah, so let's get back
on it. What truly sets us apart as the element
of shared emotions. It's not just seeing what you did,
feeling the ripple effect of your actions and words on others.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
If you said something unkind to.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Someone, you'd not only re experience saying it, but also
profoundly feel the pain, sadness, and frustration a person's experience
because of your words.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
And verstly, if you.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Did something genuinely helpful or loving, you would actually feel
the joy, gratitude, and relief that your actions brought to others.
It's like being on both sides of every interaction at once.
So this incredibly empathetic aspect of the life review often
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leads to massive personal transformations. People usually come back from
NDEs with a heightened sense of compassion and a deep
understanding of interconnectedness. They realized how deeply their actions, even
seemingly small ones, can impact others. It's like they've had
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the ultimate lesson in empathy, seeing and feeling the world
through everyone else's eyes. Now, this profound insight often leads
to a desire to live a more loving and kind
of life. Life review isn't about judgment from some external force.
It's often described as self assess pro guided by an
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overwhelming sense of unconditional love. It is a chance to
truly understand the impact of your existence and to learn
from your past. Many people who have had NDEs feeling
a profound sense of forgiveness, both for themselves and for others.
After undergoing this comprehensive and deeply moving experience, they reorients
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their entire moral compass and priorities. Yep, we got a
green screen. I don't know why I won't come back up.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I just usually it won't. Now let's try it. Nope,
all right, We'll just go ahead and do it without it.
So that's next encounter is with c snope ones. It's
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a cardiac arrest survivor. So now imagine you've just had
a cardiac arrest, your heart stopped, your clinically dead. Then
as you're in this profound state, you suddenly find your
stuff and what's often described as a tunnel. It's a
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tunnel of white light. Oh, this is super common part
of NDEs that's almost always accompanied by an overwhelming feeling
of peace and calm and complete absence of pain or fear.
So this is where many people report their consciousness leaving
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their body and floating, and as they moved through this
incredible space. The significant number of Indie ears described encountering
deceased loved ones. Take someone like ar. He was a
young man who had a cardiac arrest. While the specific
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details of his meeting weren't in the provided, they weren't
in the original documents or in the research. Many accounts
similar to his involved seeing and interacting with family members
or friends that who have already passed away. Aren't just
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vague figures. People often recognize them clearly, and sometimes even
seeing them in their prime and looking healthier and happier
than they ever were in life. So the reunions are
often described as incredible and emotional, emotional and comforting. There's
a powerful recognition and a feeling of unconditional love, like
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a homecoming. And sometimes these these loved ones act as
guides or communicate messages, perhaps telling the experiencer that it's
not their time and they need to go back to
their body. It's a very personal and often very reassuring
part of the experience for those who experience it, are
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offering a sense of continuity and connection beyond physical death.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
People aren't afraid of that anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
But what's really striking is it's how often people report
seeing their deceased loved ones they didn't even know what
passed away, even family members they had never met but
later confirmed were real and they recognized them. That's interesting.
So this adds just another layer of mystery to the experiences,
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as it suggests a source of information beyond the individual
could have known physically. For many encounters solidify their belief
in an afterlife and profoundly changed their perspective on death
and law. So Oscars says, when Chris had his stroke,
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he was unconscious for two weeks. They weren't hopeful for
him to wake up. He has forgot twenty years but
recognized all of us. Wow, that's crazy. I think we
have one more.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
That's crazy. Twenty years though, just gone.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
So Tommy McDowell, retired Army VET, went through a truly
harrowing medical ordeal, ending up on a ventilator for a
week due to multiple organ failure from sepsis. Now, during
that critical time, he had an NDE that was completely
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focused on an overwhelming sense of goodness.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
He described it as an incredibly powerful, transformative presence of peace, comfort, serenity, love,
and he just felt like it was at home.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Now.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
All the confusion and loneliness he might have felt before vanished.
They were replaced by pure tranquility. He also recounted seeing.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
A cloud of crystallized light that wasn't just pretty to
look at, and actually invited him in. And he entered
this light, something truly amazing happened. He said that he
felt the embedded trauma, the regret, the loss, all of
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these things wash away off of his back and his shoulders.
So imagine having all that heavy emotional baggage just dissolved,
leaving you feeling lighter, completely unburdened. It sounds like an
ultimate cleanse for the soul. Tommy's experience highlighted a common
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thread in most nds, and this is a sound sense
of peace and transcendence, So a place where all earthly pains, suffering,
and fear simply just disappear. It is often described as
being bathed in unconditional love, as a feeling that is
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more real and intense than any experience in regular life. Now,
for Tommy, this was his experience. He says it was
the presence of God, something so overwhelming and beyond words
that he struggled to even describe it fully. Coming back
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from such an experience can be life altering. People like
Tommy often lose their fear of death completely, and their
priorities shifts dramatically. They usually become more loving, more compassionate,
and more focused on spiritual or altruistic pursuits. Now, the
memory of that profound peace stays with them, influencing how
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they live their remaining lives and often leading to a
deeper appreciation for existence itself. And that's something that a
lot of these people, do you know, have, is the
fact that the fear of death. You know a lot
of people walk around with this fear of death.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
A lot of people do.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
They fear it, and I don't know why, but they do. Well,
we got to echo this. This sain't too good.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Hecah, It's been on both.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Huh. Well, well, well, I guess that's a good time
to end the show.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
It's a good time to end the show. Well, everybody,
we tried. Ye uh, we just have one thing after another.
It seems like happened tonight.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
So we're gonna leave you with this.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Don't hear that might be on Christina, then.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Maybe it is just probably listening to it a few devices.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I wouldn't doubt it.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Thank you for your story over the Overstoke Costars.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That was awesome, Yeah, it was. I hope everybody enjoyed
the The Broke Up Show that you know. I think
it's still some some good info. I mean it'll make
you think, and I hope you enjoyed it. David does too,
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I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
I mean things like this does, like what was talking about,
usually does make people not fear death anymore. I don't
know why some one would, because it's it's here that
there's nothing you feel about it one way or another. Yeah,
you know so, but a lot of people do fear death,
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and that's one thing that most of these people, after
their experience no longer fears.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Mm hmm. So he's been different since his story is
much longer and more detail. That's that's very interesting. Yeah,
I've I've read a lot about near death experiences and
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ninety nine point nine point nine percent of them are
all exactly the same bright light and people looking, you know,
down on theirselves from the ceiling. That's pretty interesting. I mean,
how can you not count all these experiences and testimonies
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from these people and saying I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Nothing happens you die, you die, Yeah, she says he
talks about the people in line.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I've heard that too, really, yeah, like a waiting room.
I heard one where there was it was like you
they shot up into space and there was a line.
I don't know, it was weird. It was kind of weird.
That's interesting, Thank you, Michelle. So remember come see this
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Bigfoot Festival Saturday, Saturday.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
We want to be there all day, all day and
be what like nine am to nine to six. Yeah,
and every year we have a great time. This year
will not be any different. I think this year that's
one of the better lineups that I've remember in the
past few years. Everybody there is gonna be very interesting
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and have a lot of great topics to talk about.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
There's also gonna be a round table, uh with quite
a few people that that go out and do these
hunts and stuff. I know, Harley Owens is.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Harley Owens is there, and then he's gonna be on
our show too after the conference.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, after the conference, So I can't wait. Gonna be good.
We're gonna have fun.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Like I said, We're not gonna have a show this
Saturday because we will be in Gatlinburg all day Saturday.
So everybody that can visit us, please do look forward
to talking to you, talking, you know, listening to your experiences,
signing the books that you that you buy. Oh yeah,
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we don't have a whole lot of books, so we
may we're gonna sell out, sold out pretty quickly. We've
got another comment.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Well let's see what we got. Yeah, Barbara, we hope
to see you there at the big Foot Up conference.
You just you and Mark just lived down the.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Road over the over stoked Oscar says, there's peace knowing
there's more.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, there he is.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I think, and this may be just me, but I
really think that a lot of people, no matter what
they believe in God wise or whatever, deep deep down inside,
if they if they really chewed on it and thought
about it, would know that this is not it.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
This is not all of it.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, when we before we started our little investigations and
stuff back in twenty twelve, I was really scared of death.
I mean, especially in my middle to late twenties. I
was pretty upset about it. I that went crazy over it.
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And now that I've been doing, you know, seeing all
this evidence and listening to people's stories and even having
an obe of my own. It don't scare me no
more because I know it's not the end for anybody.
It's not the end.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Ye take comfort in that. Yeah, it definitely is not
the end. And I'm gonna say definitely definitely.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
We know.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yes, all right, David, it's gonna take us out.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Thanks everybody, Thank you again. Our next show will be Thursday,
and so if everything goes well, we bought have some
good topics to talk about Thursday. Well, Thursday, we've got
a guest, don't we. Yeah, we have a the kind
of Yeah, so we've got to a guest on this Thursday.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Dog Man. He's gonna be talking about the dog Man experiences.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Awesome, that's gonna be fun. Well.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
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Speaker 7 (38:16):
Have you ever wondered what lurks in the shadows, what
secrets the night hides, what strange phenomena might be happening
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the world of the paranormal, exploring everything from ghosts and
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So much to go on.
By big footstomping through the paes Alien send the secret
(01:07):
sience bvps in the day of night, ghosts in in
the pilm light, don't know before him what we bring
it to your truth Behind the fail gouta Pasilia talking
about the phrase the freaking the weird feel as we
tip around the DC quot all of us in the woods.
Team Preacher called from a timeless sleep n sensiatic freckling
(01:32):
place singles probably a Lisa plead.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
All right, hey, guess what it's Thursday?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It is.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's Thursday.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Thanks everybody for showing up. Ooo. Writers so far is
the only one that said hey in the chap run,
what's up? What's up? How you doing? So tonight it's
gonna be kind of a short night.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
We're not gonna probably be a full hour show. We'll see,
but we're getting ready this Saturday, we will not have
a show, right Jason.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
That's right. The countdown is own. Yes, with a Smoky
Mountain Bigfoot Conference.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Hey, Michelle, Yes, Smoky Mountain Big Fuck Conference is here.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
So we'll be leaving out tomorrow tomorrow, so we could
go set up our booth and everything. So everybody that's
in the area.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Please come and say hi to us. If you got
any great stories, we love to hear them.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, it's in Gallenburg. If you can make it to Gallenburg,
go to the convention center Saturday, Yes, Saturday.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Saturday, Saturdays all day and shirts.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, and getting all your stories.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yes, loving the stories.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
So David said something when I got in here. He said,
you shaved?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah. Do I look younger?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Jason looks like twenty years younger. What's up, Christina?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Christina? Do I look twenty years younger? I think he did.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
I was like, man, now I'm gonna go. We're gonna
go to the conference, and I want to look like
an old man. Jason looks like a young pup again.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
What happened here?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
He found the fountain of youth and he's not telling Yeah,
I guess it's just a little shave. Shave and a haircut.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, I ain't got no heart to cut. So anyway
to lend you. Yeah, tonight, like David said, we're gonna
be talking about some nd stories. Yes, And if you
got anything in the that you want to mention in
(03:52):
the chat, just feel free to do that and just
light her up, light her up. So we'll go ahead
and get started. We're going to do the music too.
So have you ever wondered what truly happens in someone
faces death and then comes back. In this show, we're
(04:16):
going to dive into five unbelievable near death experiences from
real people who claim to have journeyed to the other side.
From a woman who observed her own brain surgery while
clinically dead, someone blind from birth who saw for the
very first time. So these first hand accounts will challenge
(04:40):
everything you thought you knew about life, death, and unconsciousness.
So join us as we explore the incredible details of
these experiences, all the out of body observations, the life
reviews where every action's effect has felt, and the emotional
(05:00):
reunions with deceased loved ones. Prepared to be moved, intrigued,
and maybe even find a new perspective on what lies beyond,
we'll get ready question reality and ponder the ultimate mystery.
Is there truly life after death? I think so, I know,
(05:24):
so yeah, I know, So I'm.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I'm pretty sure that there is.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
We'll see what Pam Reynolds yes thinks about this. This
one is crazy. So this one is pamal Reynolds.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
So make sure this.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Pam Reynolds was having some seriously complicated brain surgery back
in nineteen ninety one. Now we're talking about a procedure
where they basically had to cool her body down to
his super low temperatures, stop her heart, and even flatten
her brain activity. Now she was, by all medical definitions,
(06:12):
clinically dead.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Now this is where it gets mind blowing.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
During this whole crazy process, Pam later claimed that she
had left her body. She said she was floating above
the operating table, looking down at the doctors that were
working on her. She even remembered hearing conversations and seeing
specific tools they were using.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Is that not crazy?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Now?
Speaker 5 (06:43):
What makes her story so incredibly compelling is the details
that she recalled. She mentioned a specific surgical instrument that
looked like a dental pick, and sure enough, the medical
staff confirmed they use something that fit that description. She
also remembered snippets of a conversations that were between the
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surgeons that she could not have possibly heard. Her ears
plugged and her brain activity flattened. It was like her
consciousness was totally separated from her body and her brain
and then able to observe everything that was happening around her,
even in that extreme state. Now, this case really makes
(07:28):
you scratch her head and wonder what's going on when
someone dies. So after this incredible experience, Pam also described
being drawn towards a bright light. She encountered deceased loved
ones like her grandmother.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And an uncle.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
It wasn't just a fleeting image, she said, It felt
like a real interaction. It was full of peace and love.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
She felt a strong sense of being home and didn't
want to come back, But as often happens in NDEs,
she was told it was not her time and that
she had to return.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Now.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Her uncle and her account even had to push her
back into her body, which she described as feeling like
jumping into ice cold water. She was a stark contrast
to the warmth she had experienced. Her case remains one
of the most widely studied and debated indie accounts because
(08:30):
of how well documented her medical condition was during the
alleged out of body observation. Now, some skeptics try to
explain it away with anesthesia awareness, but her surgeon himself
said she was in the deepest possible anesthetic state without
actually killing someone, where any consciousness recall should have been impossible.
(08:58):
So this truly challenge is our understanding of consciousness and
what might happen when our physical bodies shut down.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
That's amazing.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Could you imagine being your body temperature lowered, your heart rate,
your heart stop, and them doing brain surgery on you,
and you could set and watch it happen.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I believe it because I myself out of obe. Yeah,
and it was just like that. I was looking down
at myself from the ceiling. And this is just one
out of millions probably of occurrences that happened.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
I'd tell a lot of people probably don't talk about it. Yeah,
Christina says, you're always handsome.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
That's right, baby. So our next, Our next one is
Vicky U. And this is the person of that scene
for the very first time. So her story is just
incredible because she was born totally blind, like, never seen
(10:12):
a single thing, no light, no shadows, nothing. Her dreams
weren't even visual. That's that's weird, ain't it, not being
able to see in your dreams? Yeah, So they were
just about touch, taste, and sound and smell. So imagine
her surprise when during a near death experience after she
(10:34):
had a serious car accident that left her in a coma,
she suddenly could see. She described herself floating above her body,
which is normal for that, because I did. It was weird.
(10:57):
She was floating above her body in the hospital and
was looking down on herself, her own wedding ring in
her hair. It must have been completely disorienting and even
a little scary at first when she had no prior
concept of sight. That would be weird.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I've never seen in your whole life, and then all
of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You can see.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
You can see, and you see yourself in wonder how
you would be able to know if that's me because
you've never seen yourself, so you wouldn't know what other
your hair was.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
You wouldn't know. Yeah, things that we.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Used, you know, every day to identify ourselves.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I think that goes. I mean, just imagine you as
an energy spirit and this body is broken and it
don't have all the fools that once outside of that body,
you have all the tools you need in your so you.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Just have an awareness as you then.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Weird, Yeah, it's cool, So it didn't stop there. Vicky
then describe being drawn to this beautiful, brightly lit place
that was full of trees, birds, and people, all made
of light. Now she could see them, and it was
(12:29):
overwhelming and incredibly beautiful to her. You know, someone who
had never experienced anything visual before. She talked about feeling
love from everything around her, the grass, the birds, the trees,
and especially the people. It sounds like an explosion of
(12:51):
sensory experience someone who could live in complete darkness experience.
She also encountered several people she knew who had passed away,
including two of her blind and intellectually disabled schoolmates, who
appeared healthy, vibrant in their prime. She saw her childhood
(13:15):
caretakers and her grandmother who had raised her. These encounters
were described as full of recognition, love, and great joy.
It really makes you think about what sight truly means,
and if it's something more than just our physical eyes
and brain that's interpreting light. So eventually, Vicki was told
(13:40):
it wasn't her time to stay in this beautiful place,
and that she had to go back. She was understandably disappointed,
protesting that she wanted to stay with her loved ones,
but she eventually consented, and the transition back into her
body was described as excruciatingly painful, heavy her experience is
(14:04):
a very profound example of how your death and involved
perception beyond her known senses, especially in cases where physical
senses were never present to begin with.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Now that would be interesting, you know, where you have.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
The fact that.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Someone that has never seen before in their whole life,
and now all of a sudden they can see.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, it's pretty wild. I don't know if you.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Did overly over stoked oscars. No, I don't think she
ever told us about that. Yeah, that's interesting. So he
had an NDE, Well.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I had a I think I had it maybe been
it might have been in the I could have whit
breathing in my sleep or something. But I was on
this ceiling and I was looking down, and it was
like pulling me away and away and away. I was
trying to yank you up, yeah, from your body. And
I said no, he said, hey, that's funny.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
It is.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
It's scary though. Now.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
One of the most powerful parts of many near death
experiences is something called the life review.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It's not just like.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Watching a highlight reel of your life. It's only a
lot more than that. It's more intense and more immersive.
Most people describe it as seeing their entire laugh, life
flash in front of their eyes, but in a totally
non judgmental way. So every every single moment, every interaction,
(16:03):
every word spoken, every decision made comes into a crystal
clear focus. It's almost simultaneous. It's like you're revealing or
reliving it all, but with perfect clarity and understanding.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
That would be weird, m.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Especially as you get older and things get further away,
they're not as clear as they once were.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You know, right now.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
What truly sets us apart is the element of shared emotions.
It's not just seeing what you did, but feeling the
ripple effect of yours and words on other.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Era went, oh no, can you still hear us? Probably can?
Oh go stream?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
We may have been blinded now, Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
All right, we might be getting it here in a minute. Yeah,
(20:00):
m hm hm hm hmm.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
We've we've had some technical difficulties.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
We have.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
H m hm.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Hm looks like we have no background, no background, Sorry everybody,
but it's.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
There are things.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yep, background isn't working. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
That's why we're going to have to do away with
green screen at some point. Yeah, so let's get back
on it. What truly sets us apart as the element
of shared emotions. It's not just seeing what you did,
feeling the ripple effect of your actions and words on others.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
If you said something unkind to.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Someone, you'd not only re experience saying it, but also
profoundly feel the pain, sadness, and frustration a person's experience
because of your words.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
And verstly, if you.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Did something genuinely helpful or loving, you would actually feel
the joy, gratitude, and relief that your actions brought to others.
It's like being on both sides of every interaction at once.
So this incredibly empathetic aspect of the life review often
(21:45):
leads to massive personal transformations. People usually come back from
NDEs with a heightened sense of compassion and a deep
understanding of interconnectedness. They realized how deeply their actions, even
seemingly small ones, can impact others. It's like they've had
(22:06):
the ultimate lesson in empathy, seeing and feeling the world
through everyone else's eyes. Now, this profound insight often leads
to a desire to live a more loving and kind
of life. Life review isn't about judgment from some external force.
It's often described as self assess pro guided by an
(22:29):
overwhelming sense of unconditional love. It is a chance to
truly understand the impact of your existence and to learn
from your past. Many people who have had NDEs feeling
a profound sense of forgiveness, both for themselves and for others.
After undergoing this comprehensive and deeply moving experience, they reorients
(22:55):
their entire moral compass and priorities. Yep, we got a
green screen. I don't know why I won't come back up.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I just usually it won't. Now let's try it. Nope,
all right, We'll just go ahead and do it without it.
So that's next encounter is with c snope ones. It's
(23:36):
a cardiac arrest survivor. So now imagine you've just had
a cardiac arrest, your heart stopped, your clinically dead. Then
as you're in this profound state, you suddenly find your
stuff and what's often described as a tunnel. It's a
(23:56):
tunnel of white light. Oh, this is super common part
of NDEs that's almost always accompanied by an overwhelming feeling
of peace and calm and complete absence of pain or fear.
So this is where many people report their consciousness leaving
(24:18):
their body and floating, and as they moved through this
incredible space. The significant number of Indie ears described encountering
deceased loved ones. Take someone like ar. He was a
young man who had a cardiac arrest. While the specific
(24:38):
details of his meeting weren't in the provided, they weren't
in the original documents or in the research. Many accounts
similar to his involved seeing and interacting with family members
or friends that who have already passed away. Aren't just
(25:00):
vague figures. People often recognize them clearly, and sometimes even
seeing them in their prime and looking healthier and happier
than they ever were in life. So the reunions are
often described as incredible and emotional, emotional and comforting. There's
a powerful recognition and a feeling of unconditional love, like
(25:24):
a homecoming. And sometimes these these loved ones act as
guides or communicate messages, perhaps telling the experiencer that it's
not their time and they need to go back to
their body. It's a very personal and often very reassuring
part of the experience for those who experience it, are
(25:49):
offering a sense of continuity and connection beyond physical death.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
People aren't afraid of that anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
But what's really striking is it's how often people report
seeing their deceased loved ones they didn't even know what
passed away, even family members they had never met but
later confirmed were real and they recognized them. That's interesting.
So this adds just another layer of mystery to the experiences,
(26:20):
as it suggests a source of information beyond the individual
could have known physically. For many encounters solidify their belief
in an afterlife and profoundly changed their perspective on death
and law. So Oscars says, when Chris had his stroke,
(26:45):
he was unconscious for two weeks. They weren't hopeful for
him to wake up. He has forgot twenty years but
recognized all of us. Wow, that's crazy. I think we
have one more.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
That's crazy. Twenty years though, just gone.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
So Tommy McDowell, retired Army VET, went through a truly
harrowing medical ordeal, ending up on a ventilator for a
week due to multiple organ failure from sepsis. Now, during
that critical time, he had an NDE that was completely
(27:35):
focused on an overwhelming sense of goodness.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
He described it as an incredibly powerful, transformative presence of peace, comfort, serenity, love,
and he just felt like it was at home.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Now.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
All the confusion and loneliness he might have felt before vanished.
They were replaced by pure tranquility. He also recounted seeing.
Speaker 5 (28:04):
A cloud of crystallized light that wasn't just pretty to
look at, and actually invited him in. And he entered
this light, something truly amazing happened. He said that he
felt the embedded trauma, the regret, the loss, all of
(28:28):
these things wash away off of his back and his shoulders.
So imagine having all that heavy emotional baggage just dissolved,
leaving you feeling lighter, completely unburdened. It sounds like an
ultimate cleanse for the soul. Tommy's experience highlighted a common
(28:50):
thread in most nds, and this is a sound sense
of peace and transcendence, So a place where all earthly pains, suffering,
and fear simply just disappear. It is often described as
being bathed in unconditional love, as a feeling that is
(29:11):
more real and intense than any experience in regular life. Now,
for Tommy, this was his experience. He says it was
the presence of God, something so overwhelming and beyond words
that he struggled to even describe it fully. Coming back
(29:31):
from such an experience can be life altering. People like
Tommy often lose their fear of death completely, and their
priorities shifts dramatically. They usually become more loving, more compassionate,
and more focused on spiritual or altruistic pursuits. Now, the
memory of that profound peace stays with them, influencing how
(29:55):
they live their remaining lives and often leading to a
deeper appreciation for existence itself. And that's something that a
lot of these people, do you know, have, is the
fact that the fear of death. You know a lot
of people walk around with this fear of death.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
A lot of people do.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
They fear it, and I don't know why, but they do. Well,
we got to echo this. This sain't too good.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Hecah, It's been on both.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Huh. Well, well, well, I guess that's a good time
to end the show.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
It's a good time to end the show. Well, everybody,
we tried. Ye uh, we just have one thing after another.
It seems like happened tonight.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
So we're gonna leave you with this.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Don't hear that might be on Christina, then.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Maybe it is just probably listening to it a few devices.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I wouldn't doubt it.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Thank you for your story over the Overstoke Costars.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That was awesome, Yeah, it was. I hope everybody enjoyed
the The Broke Up Show that you know. I think
it's still some some good info. I mean it'll make
you think, and I hope you enjoyed it. David does too,
(31:49):
I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
I mean things like this does, like what was talking about,
usually does make people not fear death anymore. I don't
know why some one would, because it's it's here that
there's nothing you feel about it one way or another. Yeah,
you know so, but a lot of people do fear death,
(32:12):
and that's one thing that most of these people, after
their experience no longer fears.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Mm hmm. So he's been different since his story is
much longer and more detail. That's that's very interesting. Yeah,
I've I've read a lot about near death experiences and
(32:39):
ninety nine point nine point nine percent of them are
all exactly the same bright light and people looking, you know,
down on theirselves from the ceiling. That's pretty interesting. I mean,
how can you not count all these experiences and testimonies
(33:03):
from these people and saying I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Nothing happens you die, you die, Yeah, she says he
talks about the people in line.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I've heard that too, really, yeah, like a waiting room.
I heard one where there was it was like you
they shot up into space and there was a line.
I don't know, it was weird. It was kind of weird.
That's interesting, Thank you, Michelle. So remember come see this
(33:38):
Bigfoot Festival Saturday, Saturday.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
We want to be there all day, all day and
be what like nine am to nine to six. Yeah,
and every year we have a great time. This year
will not be any different. I think this year that's
one of the better lineups that I've remember in the
past few years. Everybody there is gonna be very interesting
(34:04):
and have a lot of great topics to talk about.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
There's also gonna be a round table, uh with quite
a few people that that go out and do these
hunts and stuff. I know, Harley Owens is.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Harley Owens is there, and then he's gonna be on
our show too after the conference.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, after the conference, So I can't wait. Gonna be good.
We're gonna have fun.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Like I said, We're not gonna have a show this
Saturday because we will be in Gatlinburg all day Saturday.
So everybody that can visit us, please do look forward
to talking to you, talking, you know, listening to your experiences,
signing the books that you that you buy. Oh yeah,
(34:55):
we don't have a whole lot of books, so we
may we're gonna sell out, sold out pretty quickly. We've
got another comment.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Well let's see what we got. Yeah, Barbara, we hope
to see you there at the big Foot Up conference.
You just you and Mark just lived down the.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Road over the over stoked Oscar says, there's peace knowing
there's more.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, there he is.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I think, and this may be just me, but I
really think that a lot of people, no matter what
they believe in God wise or whatever, deep deep down inside,
if they if they really chewed on it and thought
about it, would know that this is not it.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
This is not all of it.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, when we before we started our little investigations and
stuff back in twenty twelve, I was really scared of death.
I mean, especially in my middle to late twenties. I
was pretty upset about it. I that went crazy over it.
(36:04):
And now that I've been doing, you know, seeing all
this evidence and listening to people's stories and even having
an obe of my own. It don't scare me no
more because I know it's not the end for anybody.
It's not the end.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Ye take comfort in that. Yeah, it definitely is not
the end. And I'm gonna say definitely definitely.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
We know.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yes, all right, David, it's gonna take us out.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Thanks everybody, Thank you again. Our next show will be Thursday,
and so if everything goes well, we bought have some
good topics to talk about Thursday. Well, Thursday, we've got
a guest, don't we. Yeah, we have a the kind
of Yeah, so we've got to a guest on this Thursday.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Dog Man. He's gonna be talking about the dog Man experiences.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Awesome, that's gonna be fun. Well.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
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Speaker 7 (38:16):
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