True Dogman Encounters with Vic Cundiff

Vic Cundiff has been fascinated by cryptids and "things that go bump in the night" for as long as he can remember. His interest in Dogman encounters began in 2007 when he spoke with his first eyewitness. Since then, he has interviewed countless individuals who claim to have had encounters with these creatures, sometimes receiving reports from as many as seven or eight new eyewitnesses daily through DogmanEncounters.com. Cundiff's work focuses on helping Dogman eyewitnesses process and come to terms with their experiences. He is the host of several podcasts dedicated to cryptids, including "Dogman Encounters Radio," "My Bigfoot Sighting," "Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio," "My Paranormal Experience," and his fictional series, "Dogman Tales." https://www.youtube.com/@DogmanEncounters

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:40):
All right, all ride, good evening. It's Thursday, Thursday. We
have a guest, Yes, we do, and this is gonna
be a great guest. So thanks everybody who's already popped
in and getting ready for this, because I think this
is gonna be a great show.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I think we're gonna be talking about dog Man and
Bigfoot and anything else he wants to talk about, Yes,
any of his experiences.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I'm kind of interested in dog Man because what's up, Steve. Yeah,
I'm interested because I'd like to learn more about dog Man. Yeah,
I could say I'm not too caught up with with it.
And he's had thousands of people who've come on, and

(02:26):
thousands maybe more and even more even more. Yeah, I
think I was listening to one of his shows and
I think it was over a year old, and he
said that he had taken over I think it was
over three or four thousand witnesses, statements that he talked
to and stuff on a show.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
So, yeah, it's his names Vic Kunduff, and he has
a Hey Jason. He has three or four YouTube channels, right, yes, so,
and Vic's been fascinated by cryptids and things that go
bump in the night for as long as he could remember.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yes, his interest in.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Dog Man Encounters began in two thousand and seven when
he spoke with his first eye witness, and since then
he has interviewed countless individuals who have they've had encounters
with these creatures, sometimes receiving as many as seven or
eight new eyewitnesses daily.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Is that not crazy?

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Through Dogman Encounters dot com. So his work focuses on
helping dog Man eyewitnesses process and to come to terms
with their experiences. And he is the host of, like
I said earlier, several podcasts dedicated to cryptids, including dog
Man Encounters Radio, My Bigfoot Sightings, Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio, My

(03:49):
Paranormal Experience, and his fictional series called dog Man Tales,
which I listened to some of it earlier, and it's
it's wild, it's amazing. The story. Yeah, it may not
be real, but it's good stories. So we're going to
bring you own, mister Vic Kundiff.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
How you doing, Vic?

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Hey, guys, doing really good?

Speaker 3 (04:13):
How about you doing doing great? Doing great?

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, we're doing pretty good.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
So before we start asking the customary you know questions,
I was watching something that you was on and you
said something that was funny to me because you know,
we started our first podcast in twenty twelve and it

(04:39):
was on a little thing called blog Talk Radio. And
I heard that you know that you had kind of
got your start there too, and that's pretty pretty neat.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Oh yeah, yeah. Back in two thousand and seven, I
was asked to come on the show and be a
co host. And that's when it all started, right there,
good old blog talk Yeah, blog talk Right.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
We started out with a cell phone.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, with our cell phone and blog talk radio, that
was it. Good old eas.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
So Jason Finch says he has his very own dog
Man Encounters radio hooded sweatshirt, and he had his Bigfoot
Sightings podcast hooded sweatshirt. Yeah, I got some fans in here.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Vic Wash says he's a cool dude.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
And thanks for the good words, guys. I appreciate it,
but you're gonna make me nervous now.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
I've listened to you on quite a few of your
your shows, and you always great shows, great shows.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
Well, thanks for listening.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
So I guess we could start off with the customary
kind of what got you into not necessarily Well, I
guess eventually got you into doing the podcasting thing. But
what got you really interested in, say, dog Man and
all of these cryptids and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Well, I've always been interested in things that go bumping
the night, and I guess that all started at the
Genesis was where I just focused on sasquatch, because you know, sasquatch.
When it comes to cryptids, that's the one that's most
in your face. But as time went along, I found
myself co hosting that podcast called Campfire Shadows back in
two thousand and seven, in two thousand and eight, and

(06:33):
back then Jim bear Grant and Tim Kumbo Baker there
were regulars on the show. Well, one weekend they had
an outing and they took some people with him, and
I don't know who I can't remember who it was
because this has been years and years, but somebody in
the group saw what they called a dogface booger, and

(06:53):
when I heard them say dogface booger, I knew that
the term booger is an appellation for a sasquatch that
a lot of Southerners use. But once a dogface booger
is what I was thinking. So after the show, I
can't remember if it was beer or coumbo that I
asked about that, but I found out that they're talking
about a dog man. What's called a dog man? So

(07:16):
I just did some digging into it, and it wasn't
long for I got to think, and you know, if
you have a bad sasquatch encounter that you need help with,
you can almost go to your corner grocery store and
find someone to help you. But if you have an
account with one of these dog men, where do you
go to get help? Who do you talk with? So
I thought, you know what, there's a real need here now,
mind you, It wasn't until twenty fourteen that I brought

(07:40):
Dogmanecounters dot Com online, But once I did bring it online,
before I knew it, I had people contacted me from
all over and eventually from all over the world. I
actually spoken with eyewitnesses dogmen, eyewitnesses from every continent except
in an Arctica. Now, so yeah, people think that this
is kind of focused on America, on the US, but

(08:04):
it's not. It's definitely a worldwide phenomenon.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
So that's it's crazy because it really hasn't been but
the last I don't know, three or maybe four years
that in my mind I remember starting to hear about
dog man and to know that it's been going on
for much earlier than that is crazy for me. What

(08:34):
do you think that these creatures or these beings.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Are Well, that's a million dollar question right there. I'm
not that convinced that we don't have several different kinds
of dog men. What I'm talking about is not dogmen
that look this way or look that way, but dog
men that are supernatural in origin. But then you've got
another kind that might be tests to dog men that

(09:00):
the government created. And then you might have another kind
that are actually just flesh and blood creatures that are
out there trying to scratch out a living in the
woods pun intended. But I wouldn't be surprised if that
was the case. Now that's just a guess. I really
don't know. No one could tell you for sure what
they are. But that's just a guess.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
I know David was saying, we hadn't really heard a
dog man for you know, maybe like you said, three
or four years ago. We were at the Bigfoot conference
in Gallinburg about three years ago. Like we just got
back this week from one two and Gallinburg is pretty cool.
But we were there, and we were it was after

(09:45):
the conference and we were standing out front on the
main strip in Gallinburg and these girls come up and said, what.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
About the dog man?

Speaker 4 (09:54):
I was like, what a dog man? I had never
heard of a dog man? Now she had said where if?
I have said, okay, but I never heard of anything
called a dog man.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
It started looking into it, and it's like, okay, I
mean you got the Beast of Bray Road and that's
kind of where it started with for me, you know,
and you.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Got the LBL.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, and then the LBL.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
So Steven would like to know if you know how
many dog man reports are there from Tennessee.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
Oh I don't. I couldn't even venture it. Guess on that,
but that's the thing. I mean, I've spoken with so
many witnesses over the years, it's just a blur. But
I can tell you that Tennessee is definitely one of
the hottest spots in the US right now. It's been
that way for a long time. Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, Pennsylvania,
maybe i'd say the western part of West Virginia and

(10:56):
just in that region there. Yeah, that's definitely the hottest area.
They Back in the eighties and into the nineties a bit,
you're talking about Michigan, Wisconsin, maybe parts of Minnesota, those
were the hottest spots. But then again, that's where all
this was brought to light. That's where dogmen really got

(11:18):
their fame, was the Michigan dog me in the Beast
of Bray Road. You can't have an encounter if you
don't have an eye witness. Well, a lot of people
they were seeing these things all over, but they didn't
have a name to hang on it, so they just
kept it to themselves. But in Michigan, in Wisconsin, when
those stories started coming out about the Michigan dog Man,
about the Beast of Bray Road, now you have people

(11:41):
coming forward, Okay, well, yeah, that matches what I saw.
So that's why those places were quote unquote the hot
spots back then, even though obviously encounters had to be
happening all over even back.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Then, right, So, I know that we had a lot
of well, we had like a gruesome murder there in
Land between the Lakes that was attributed to the dog man.
I believe.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Have you had any specifics from there that you can remember, Well,
I'm sorry, any specifics reports between the lakes of the
Land between the Lakes.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I've spoken with people had encounters there. Actually,
the first person I spoke with back in two thousand
and seven about his encounter, he actually lived right on
the border, right near the border of the LBL, and
he had one of the most frightening, dog mean encounters
that's ever been shared with me.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Wow, Wow, that's wild. Yeah, we're just down the road
a little while.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah, we're not that far from LBL, and we want
to go there this this year and do an investigation.
I'm pleased to do it. Yeah, if you're going I
have an encounter, I think, at least as far as
I've I've been looking into here lately, that's one of
the best best places to maybe have one because there

(13:09):
seem to be a lot of sightings there.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
So I know you your goal is to help people.
How do you go about helping these people that have
these sightings and how do you how do you help
them process it? Just with those stories listening.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Well, when you speak with as many eyewitnesses as I
have over the years, you have to notice patterns. One
of the biggest patterns you notice when you do what
I do is people who have encounters with these guys.
If they had an experience with something else, like a
whorse or whatever that was really similar, they'd be able

(13:51):
to work their way through it, even if that experience
was as traumatic as the dog man encounter was. But
because they're so knocked off of their base with fear,
and understandably so, because of their encounter with this really
frightening looking ENCRYPTID, they can't reason their way through it
to see the forest for the trees, I should say.

(14:12):
So my job what I do is I just basically
I point out things to them that because of the
trauma the PTSD, they've overlooked and just basically make sense
out of the whole experience and make sure they understand
when you see something like that that's that frightening, and
especially with something like dog men that knew how to

(14:32):
really push our buttons. I mean, it's gonna go right
to the reptile brain and a human and just cause
just primal fearing you. Well, of course, depending on the situations.
If you're in a car, if you're on the freeway
or whatever, then maybe not so much. But when you're
on the ground and it's on the ground and it's

(14:54):
right there and everything, then yeah, it's gonna push those
buttons in you. But dog men and their physical capabilities,
in some ways, their mental capabilities supersede our own to
the point where you're not going to get away from
a dog men that's got it in for you. And
I just point out things like that that the reason
why we're having this conversation right now is because it

(15:17):
didn't want to hurt you. If it wanted to do whatever, TIA,
it would have done it. It had every capability of
doing that, TIA, But it didn't do that for the
best possible reason, because it didn't want to hurt you.
And I just really emphasize the fact that, Okay, you
are talking with me now, because the most terrifying looking

(15:39):
creature you've ever seen in your life that look like
a mindless blood a mindless killing machine that would rip
you apart as soon as look at you. He let
you go without a scratch. So you have yet in
your life to encounter a bloodthirsty, mindless, monstrous killing machine
that will rip you apart as soon as the opportunity
presents itself. And just basically bringing things like that to

(16:02):
their attention and making sense out of that experience.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
It's not like.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
It's a magic bullet that makes it so that people
who have really been traumatized as soon as we hang up,
they're fixed. But as long as they work on the
things that I asked them to work on and they
remember what I was asking them to remember, then yeah,
they're golden. I mean, if I had a nickel for
every time that I've spoken with an eyewitness was really

(16:28):
in a bad way but at the start of the conversation,
but by the end of the conversation they're laughing and
having a great time and they're good to go. They're
not totally fixed. They still need to think about what
we talked about and really let it sink in, but
they're good at that point. They're not great, but they're
good and on their way to being great. So yeah,

(16:51):
I mean, I just I can't believe that I'm in
a position to be able to do that.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
That's awesome, Yeah, it's amazing. Good question, well we have.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Actually, Matthew Hepworth did ask a pretty good one. He says,
why do you think dog man is attracted to cornfields?

Speaker 5 (17:15):
Well, when you're talking about something as big as a
dog man can get, very few of them seem to
be running around twelve feet they must not be mature yet,
and quite a fewer females. But yeah, the males, certain
varieties of the males can top out it around twelve feet. Apparently,
if you're that big, I mean, it's hard to find
a better place to good cover and hide than a cornfield.

(17:40):
Then that can be we can be talking about hiding
for different purposes, maybe to jump a deer or to
stay out of the limelight. I mean, there could be
a lot of reasons why they might want to hide.
But yeah, I mean a cornfield would offer a lot
of advantages. Maybe that's why anyone who tells you that

(18:01):
they definitely know they know definitively the answer to that question. Yeah,
they're just blowing smoke because I don't know for sure.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, we have a good friend of ours, Matt Sieber,
from his East Tennessee Bigfoot, and he says something similar,
you know, he goes, there's no experts. He says, when
someone tells you they're an expert, they're lying to you,
you know. So that's right, you know. I think what
you said on the cornfields though, is right, because you know,

(18:31):
we have a lot of them here in East Tennessee.
And there's one thing that you have to worry about
when you're going by a cornfield in a car is
deer jumping out at you because they tend to like
to lay in that corn as it's food. But be
you know, especially this time of the year and stuff.

(18:52):
There's babies with them, and so it's a good place
that they can lay down and be out of sight
of everything.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
You know. Oh yeah, definitely. And it's not just deer,
I mean raccoons where I should say, swamp kitties they
love going into cornfields too, and other critters too, so
it's a great place for them to hang out and
to just lay low, make a living.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yep, sit there and just what's on the buffet tonight.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah, I usually go into a cornfield just to pick
the field corner. I like field corn the you.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, I've got a bunch of where I work.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
So in the time that you've been doing you know,
all this stuff, have you always been doing the dog
band or have you did you start off doing like
Bigfoot and stuff like that. First?

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Well, when I was co hosting Campfire Shadows in two
thousand and seven and eight, yeah, I was just solely
focused on Sasquatch. But after I left that show in
twenty zero in two thousand and eight, I had a
hiatus there all the way up until twenty fifteen. That's
when I brought the show Dog Mean Encounters online, and
then in twenty sixteen, I brought Bigfoot Eye Witness Radio online.

(20:14):
But understand the Bigfoot I Witness Radio that's not available
for listening on YouTube. To listen to Bigfoot Eye Witness
you have to use your favorite podcast app. But yeah,
you name the podcast app out there, and Bigfoot Eye
Witness Radio was on it. So it's still really easy
to listen to. And I focus more on the podcast
side of things. Anyway, I'd rather have people listen to

(20:35):
my shows on their favorite podcast app than YouTube. But yeah,
I mean I did focus on dogmen first, but my
focus has always been on dog man and my focus
has never been on Sasquatch. Yeah, I happened to produce
to Sasquatch podcasts, but now I don't help Sasquatch eye

(20:55):
witnesses come to terms with their encounters if they've had
traumatic encounters, but I do help dogmen eye witnesses. So yeah,
my focus always has been on dogmen and always will be.
But I happen to produce two Sasquatch podcasts.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Having said that, so Steven in the chat room, he said,
what about a lot of the encounters that happen around
graveyards and even those areas of old native areas.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Do you have any reports of that?

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Oh, yeah, there have been a lot of cases of
that happening. And that kind of points too. Maybe there
is something to the adage about these guys having a
supernatural tie. Maybe a lot of these guys are a
supernatural beings and that's why they're drawn to those places.
But again that's just a guess. I mean, that's a
conceit to just put something out there as if it's
fact when it comes to something like that and dog men,

(21:57):
because we really don't know definitively.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Right, could be portals, it could be just about anything.
I've noticed. I've heard some big foot encounters that have
hosted dog man prints. So have you heard that?

Speaker 5 (22:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, I've heard about that. And one of
the earliest cases that I can remember hearing about someone
finding a sasquatch print and a dog man print. They
told me about seeing smaller sasquatch prints and then there
were dog men prints right alongside those sasquatch prints, and

(22:37):
they were of the mindset, why would a dog man
move with a juvenile sasquatch? And I told them, I'll
bet you good money it wasn't moving with the juvenile sasquatch.
I bet you it was stalking that juvenile sasquatch. And
that's why it looked like these two are moving together,
but it was actually behind it.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Wow, yeah, it was Mike's so much that was hungry.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Well, I mean, you know, I'm sure these things, you know,
eat what canines eat, and that's usually chasing down and
eating a lot of meat. So bigfoot be a lot
of meat.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
I don't think they do. They definitely seem to be
keenid's when you look at their features. But when you
look in a dog's mouth, they're carnassules. They're a compromise.
I mean, dog's carnassiles, they're molars. They're not designed solely
for the purpose of processing meat the way an obligate

(23:45):
carnivorous mouth is gonna be. If you look at a
tiger's carnassules or allion's carnassules, they are obligate carnivores, so
every tooth in their mouth is designed to process meat. Well,
a dog man's teeth, every single tooth in its head
is designed to process meat. So unlike a dog, which

(24:08):
is an omnivore, a dog mean is clearly an obligate carnivore.
So yeah, they're obviously keynids if we're not talking about
a supernatural kind of dog me in, But if you're
talking about a flesh and blood dog me in. Every
dog mean that's ever been reported to me has always
had it where every single tooth in its head is sharp,

(24:31):
like I said, So that's why I have come to
that conclusion that these guys must be obligate carnivores. If
you wonder about that whole herbivore, omnivore, obligate carnivore thing.
Look at the teeth. The teeth will tell you everything
you need to know about that animal's lifestyle.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yep, that makes sense. I mean you look at ours
and you know our molars and everything, and you could
tell that we're omnivores, so it would make sense.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Oh definitely.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
I probably shouldn't get on my soapbox about this whole
Type three thing, but it really sticks in my crawl
when I hear someone call them a type three sasquatch,
because they're clearly look at the anatomical features on the
Type three and it's clear they're definitely not a kind
of sasquatch. Sasquatch always have fingernails and toenails. Every single

(25:24):
Type three has got claws on the tips of his fingers.
That precludes the chance of them being a kind of sasquatch,
and people have postulated, Okay, well, maybe they just are
sasquatch that were born that way. No, you don't have
an animal that is an animal that normally has fingernails
and toenails. You don't just randomly have a baby that's

(25:47):
born with bone anchored claws. That's not something that you're
ever gonna find. You might have one that's born with
with arms that are shorter, slightly shorter than normal. You
might have one that's that's born with whatever strange little
quirk to its anatomy. But that right there, fingernails compared

(26:08):
to bone anchored claws on the tips of its fingers,
that's a huge jump when it comes to physiology. You're
never gonna find a baby born with that kind of
a variation. So that right there, that precludes the chance
that Type threes could be a kind of sasquatch. And also,
I'll do you one further. Every single tooth and the
Type three's head. Every eyewitness who's ever reported seeing a

(26:31):
Type three, some people call them googways, some people call
them face eaters, and they have other names too for them,
every single eye witness is always reported that every single
tooth in their heads was sharp, every last tooth. Well,
that right there that precludes the chance of them being sasquatch,
because sasquatch, if you look at their teeth, some of

(26:54):
those guys have pronounced canines that are sharp, but every
other tooth in their heads is always like an omnivorous
teeth but a lot of sasquatch like type ones. They
have all their teeth look like ours, just a lot bigger,
clearly the teeth of an omnivore. But when you have

(27:15):
type threes where every last tooth is sharp for processing meat,
that's another ad atomical feature that just rules out the
possibility of them being a kind of sasquatch. Now I've
been on my soapbox saying what they're not. People wonder
if that's the case, Well, what are they? I can't
tell you what they are. I can tell you what

(27:36):
they're not though they're not a type of canid. They're
not a type of sasquatch. Again, what are they? I
don't know. I can't tell you.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Mm hmm. Now that's that's interesting, especially when it comes
down to because I've never heard of the type one,
Type two tap three, have you, Jason?

Speaker 4 (28:02):
I know he spoke of it on some prior podcasts,
but but it's the first time I've heard it. Yeah,
from him.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Maybe you can explain that better.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
Sure, this whole type thing that's something that Tim Komba
Baker created back in the day. Now what he considers
to be a type one sasquatch and it's widely considered.
This type of sasquatch I'm about to talk about is
widely across the board considered to be a type one
Type ones, what people in the crypto community call Type ones,

(28:36):
I should say sasquatch. They're the ones that look like
Patty from the Patterson Gimlin film. They have that sagital crest, well,
at least once they get to a certain size they do,
because a sagital crest is a size thing above a
certain size. If you're a primate, you're gonna have that
sagital crest. But yeah, Type ones have a sagital crest.

(28:59):
They've got that bit ridiculously bulky build. They get quite
a bit taller than what are called Type twos, Type twos.
If you ever check out, there's a website. If you
do a Google search for them and US, you'll be
taken to a website where they show a Neanderthal and

(29:19):
it is pronounced Neanderthal, not neanderthal. The h is silent
before I get blown up with a bunch of messages. Yeah,
if you go to that website, by doing that Google
search for them and US, you're gonna see what a
lot of experts consider to be about the most accurate

(29:39):
rendition representation of what Neanderthals look like. You see this
figure holding a spear, but the representation they have has
elliptical pupils like a snake. But people who've seen a
lot of Type twos, like Combo, like Bear, they say
that type twos have round pupils the way we do.

(30:02):
They don't have those elliptical pupils like that representation of
a Neanderthal does and that photo on that website. But yeah,
type twos they have rounded heads. They're not nearly as
balky or as tall or big as type ones, and
they're a lot they lend themselves to Shenanigans a lot

(30:23):
more apparently than type ones, at least people who have
been around their fair share of these guys, they say
that that's something that Combo and Beer put out there.
But yeah, that's the short story on type ones and
Type twos now type threes. I guess he considers or

(30:44):
considered type threes to be a kind of sasquatch, so
that's why he called them type threes, when in fact,
to accurately label them, you should go in a different
direction because they're not the kind of sasquatch. But yeah,
that's what I was telling about. As far as type threes,
that's why he decided to call them type threes. He

(31:06):
considered them to be a kind of sasquatch, and I
think he still does.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's interesting then taking that into consideration
because now knowing what we all normally hear of and
talk about when we're talking about bigfoot is type one,
that type three definitely does not fit that bill at all.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
No, it definitely doesn't. And on that scale one, two, three,
that's an accurate representation of how ornery you'd expect these
guys to be. Type ones or the mellow wist type
two that kind of ramps it up. Type three that's
like the top of the list as far as potential aggression.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
I wonder if that's I mean, not as far as
aggression size. You see that. It's it's funny because it
seems like when you get up into say Alaska and
stuff like that, they seem to be very aggressive, and
you know, out here where we live, I don't think

(32:19):
that they're quite as aggressive.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Yeah, they're reported to be quite a bit more aggressive
up there in Alaska, definitely. Yeah, I don't know if
that's true or not, but people say.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Right.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Where you've got that, what was that shipping that village
that was up there port Lock, Yeah, where supposedly that
one was tearing people apart and they all had to
leave and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
You know, Yeah, they abandoned, abandoned the whole town.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, I think that's where everybody's driving. You know how
bad these things are.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
So I know you you told me earlier you had,
you know, some big foot encounters, personal bigfoot encounters, and
if it's all right, I'd like for you to share
with us if you can.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Big foot encounters. What bigfoot encounters? No, I'm messing with you.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
I love it. What are you talking about? I'm about
to bow my head and go over.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Now.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
About forty years ago, I was deer hunting, and the
story behind that I had that experience when I was
deer hunting then. And the story behind that is I
had this neighbor that was like in the dictionary next
to the phrase outdoorsmen, there should have been a picture
of this guy because you name it and he had

(33:50):
done it. When it comes to the outdoors, I mean
hunting and the places he had been and camping, hiking,
all this stuff. He was quite a bit older than
I was back then, but yeah, this guy was just
something else.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
He really was.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
Well, he knew how much I always loved the outdoors,
and one day I used to go down there and
sit on his couch and just he would just share
experience after experience with me, and he'd share experiences that
other people had had because they knew I loved that
kind of stuff. Ate it up like candy. Well, one
day he said, you know what, Vic, I know much

(34:26):
you love the outdoors and you love listening to these
stories and all about my experiences. He said, why don't
you get your license? You're hunting license. If you do that,
then he said, I'll take you to the farm with me.
And he lived way out in the middle of nowhere.
He said, I'll take you to the farm with me
the day before opening day of deer season, and I'll
take you out there and I'll show you the ropes

(34:49):
and we'll see if you can't get yourself deer. So
I said, that sounds great to me. So I went
ahead and did that, and before I knew it, it
was time to head to his farm. So we headed
to his farm and we were riding up this long
lane off of the highway or a country road. I
can't remember, it's been so long, but we were just

(35:11):
riding down this long lane that led back to the
farmhouse through the woods, and then we got to this
clearing and I remember on the right hand side of
the lane it opened up a little bit and there's
this pasture and I'm looking and there's this bay horse
just on the other side of the fence. It's got
his head down and he's chomping on the grass there. Well,

(35:33):
I said something about the horse, and he said, oh, yeah,
that's red. He said, stay away from him. He'll kill you.
I thought, okay, well, point taking don't need to tell
me twice. So he kept on rolling down that lane,
and eventually there was a spot where the woods opened
up again, and there's another pasture or part of that
same huge pasture, and there was another bay there that

(35:56):
was eating, had his head down eating. I can't remember
the name of that horse, for whatever reason, it's been
so many years. But he said, okay, that one's fine, Yeah,
that's so, and so you can pet him if you
want to. I said, okay, great. Well, we kept on
rolling and We eventually made it to the farmhouse and
we got out and headed in and got settled in,

(36:18):
and before you know it, after having dinner, it was
time to head to bed. So I went upstairs into
the loft and I went ahead and turned in after
I got things ready for the next morning. Well, the
next morning came bright and early. I got up and
I got dressed and headed down and we had breakfast,
and before I knew it, we were heading out to
the farmhouse and into the woods. So we walked into

(36:40):
the woods, and this is big country, big hollers and everything.
We walked down this big hollow back up one and
up and down, up and down, up and down. I
don't know how long we walked, but we did walk
quite a bit, a good ways away from the farmhouse
into the woods. Well, eventually, as we're heading down this
huge hollow, he said, all right, this is your spot.

(37:03):
Go ahead and set up here. He said, I'm going
to be hunting a few ridges over, a few hollows over.
He said, just remember everything I told you, and you
should be fine. He said, I'll come back in right
before dark and pick you up. On the way back
to the farmhouse, I said, all right, that sounds good.
So I got down and sell it in up against
this huge oak tree. And the slope I was on

(37:27):
it was I was in a huge hollow about halfway
down the slope of the hollow, and the slope was steep,
and because it was such a deep, big hollow, I
can't honestly tell you how much distance it was to
the bottom of the hollow or how much distance it
was to the top of it, but it was a
good distance, a really good distance both ways. Well, I'm

(37:52):
just sitting there, and before too long the sun started
coming up, and when it did, I'm looking around get
my bearings and everything. Once it was fully up, you know,
I'm scanning, remembering everything he told me, you know, sudden
movements or anything like that. Well, I'm just looking around
and nothing was going on.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
It was dead, I mean just dead.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
So I'm eventually I'm just bored out of my mind.
I'm thinking, Okay, there's got to be something that's gonna
happen here, not so much as a squirrel. Well, I
don't know what time it was. I think it was
maybe just a here afternoon, might have been as late
as twelve thirty. I'm sitting there with my backup against
that huge oak tree, and all of a sudden, well

(38:36):
not huge oak tree, but a big oak tree, and
all of a sudden, I hear this loud horse whinny
that sounded like it was about twenty or so feet
behind me. I'm thinking, oh, is that Red? Did Red
follow me out here? The killer horse? And then reason

(38:56):
set in. I'm looking around, and there's at least a
foot of tree trash of oak leaves and sycamore leaves,
and all sorts of leaves there that are dry as
a crisp. There's no way a horse could have gotten
anywhere near me without me hearing it a long way off.
And then when you consider how steep the slope of

(39:17):
that hollow was, a horse isn't going to want to
navigate that unless it's life was at stake, and even
then I might not try to do it.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
It was steep.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
So when I put those two things together, it really
doesn't make sense that it was a horse that was
literally twenty feet behind me. Well, not too long after
the winny, I heard what sounded like, well, I will
call it it was why I heard a horse blow. Now,
for people listening who don't know much about horses. One
of the strange quirky things about their anatomy is that,

(39:49):
believe it or not, a horse cannot breathe through its mouth.
The only way a horse can breathe is.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Through his nostrils.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
That's just one of those strange physical adaptations that they have. Well,
because of that adaptation, that's why if you've been around
horses much, you've noticed that it seems like they're obsessive
about clearing the nostrils. Every time you turn around, they're
clearing their nostrils. Well, when they get one crossways way

(40:17):
up there, or maybe a bug up there or whatever,
and they really want to clear their nostrils out, they
do what's called a blow. A blow is when they
take a deep breath and they empty their lungs and
they empty their lungs through their nostrils right now. And
if you've ever been by a horse that does that
and you're not expecting it, it really can scare you
out of your boots. It's loud, it's violent, it's concussive. Well,

(40:43):
i'm a big guy. I mean I don't run across
people that are my size very often at all. My
lungs aren't even close to approaching the lung volume that
I heard making these sounds when I heard that blow.
I've been around horses, a lot of horses, and the
blow I heard the lungs behind that blow had to

(41:04):
be as big as a horse's lungs. So that's why
I say that I'm convinced it had to be one
thousand pounds sasquatch. It was literally just feet behind you
that day. How long it was back there behind me,
Maybe it was back there behind me since before the
sun came up. I don't know. All I can do
is guess on that, but that's what happened in that time.

(41:27):
And then fast forward to probably I can't really remember
how many years it's been, but five, six, maybe up
to seven or eight years ago, I guess. I was
walking out in the country and I had walked up
and over this arch bridge over this creek that was
out there in the area I was at. And once

(41:51):
I made it up and over that arch bridge, I
kind of zigzagged to the left, and then I zigged
to the right a little bit to walk through this
green field. Well, the green field was up about it
was midsummer, so that greenfield was up about six feet tall. Well,
because it was up about six feet tall, I could
still see over the top of it. But since it's

(42:13):
six feet tall and I'm in the green field, it
really cut down my vision on what was going on
at a distance on the other side of that green field. Well,
I walked a distance out and decided, okay, well, I'm
far enough away from the truck. I've got things to do,
so I decided to head back. I turned around and

(42:34):
started heading back, and I guess I was probably between
a quarter mile and maybe three eighths of a mile
away from that arch bridge, probably not three eighths though,
probably closer to a quarter mile away from that arch bridge.
When all of a sudden, I see this figure running
up in a view up and over the top of

(42:54):
the arch of that bridge. Well, when it's at the
lower parts of that arch bridge, pretty much all I
could see was like headish shoulders, maybe shoulders, But as
it got up to the arch then I can see
pretty much all of it. Well, what really caught my
attention was was the way it was moving. It was
kind of plucking its feet in an unnatural way as

(43:17):
it was. It wasn't really running. It was more of
like a jogging speed, but it was swinging its arms
or he maybe it was a person. What I saw
was I'll just tell you what I saw. I saw
a black, black figure that if it was a man,
I'd say it was probably my high or taller. There

(43:39):
aren't too many guys that are taller than I am.
But if it was a guy, it was a guy
my height or taller who had a sweatshirt with its
hood up and the hood was really was pointed. There
was a definitive point to his hood. You know, some
sweatshirts and all they're like that like that. So it's

(44:01):
either a guy that was my height or taller with
nothing but black on even black shoes, that had a
sweatshirt hood pulled up with that pronounced point, or maybe
it was a Sasquatch. I don't know, but the way
it was moving, that was what I really focused on
more than anything. And I'm thinking, Okay, if it is

(44:22):
a Sasquatch, I've got a limited amount of time to
collect as much detail about this thing as I can.
It was broad daylight, but because of the distance and everything,
it was really hard to make out features, especially considering
how black it was, as black, black so I just
watched it run up and over the bridge and my direction,

(44:42):
onto my side of the bridge, and then once it
ran down onto the ground there on the other side
of that arch bridge, it turned to its right my left,
and it moved parallel at the same speed I watched.
Its head just moved parallel on the other side of
that greenfield until I lost sight of it. I couldn't

(45:04):
see it anymore. I can't remember if the ground slipped
away and that's why I lost sight of it, or
if the greenfield in that area when it disappeared was
taller than six feet, But yeah, I wound up losing
sight of it. So I walked as fast as I
could to get to the point where I could look
left and down the road of that greenfield to try

(45:26):
and see it. But I knew I was far enough
away where once I got to the edge and had
a chance to break out and look to the left,
it wasn't going to be in sight. And yeah, sure
enough it wasn't. So I don't know. Did I see
a sasquatch that day. I can't tell you. I definitely did,
but that might be what it was that I saw.
And then there's another time I was heading down this

(45:46):
country road when I saw.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
This.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
Well, I don't know for sure that I saw it,
but I think I saw what looked to me like
a leg disappearing behind a tree. So yeah, I mean,
once I got to the point where I could look
and look behind a tree, I looked, but didn't see anything.

(46:16):
But was it my mind playing tricks on me. I
don't know. It's possible, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Wow, Wow, So three possible sightings. That's an amazing moment. Yeah,
I've seen him once, and I got a pretty good
sight of him. I can definitively say it was a sasquatch,
and it was a big one. It was while I

(46:47):
was driving truck and my wife and I used to
team drive, so she was in the back sleeping, And
it was about eleven o'clock at night and on I
ninety and Washington State. And what was cool was that,
you know I ninety, that late at night is practically dead.

(47:10):
I mean there you might see a car every once
in a while, you know. And so we're going westbound,
and about four car links or so ahead of us,
it's a slight fog bank to where you'd be able
to see you say the tail lights of a car,
but you wouldn't be able to make out what it was.

(47:31):
And just about that far ahead of us, he just
comes out of the median and comes across the interstate
and then back up the the other side on him,
you know, a big it's like a mountain over there,
but comes just right across and up before I could

(47:51):
even get to him, you know, doing about sixty five
miles an hour at the time. So I think that's
what the speed limit is there. And uh, he was big.
He I know that if I pulled over and I
rolled down the window, I could have had a face
to face conversation with him. His he was big, his massive, massive,

(48:12):
And that I think is what after the shock of
me driving for another ten minutes reconciling in my head
is this actually what I saw, and then coming to
the conclusion that that was what I saw, I still
wrestle with the fact of how big he was. I mean,

(48:33):
just how massive this thing was, but then also how
agile and how fast he was. That was just it
was amazing. Yeah, oh no, I bet it was.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
So.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
But I I've yet to see Bigfoot. Of course, I
don't get out much like David, He's been all over
the country.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
That's long haul truck driving. I'll do that for you.
Oh that will.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
So got a question in the chat room, Steven. He says,
how often does red eyes come up with these dog
man encounters?

Speaker 5 (49:15):
It comes up fairly often, but the most common color
is by far and away amber. But yeah, there are
quite a few eyewitnesses, credible eyewitnesses who report seeing red eyes. Definitely.
Now there's no pattern. There's so many canards out there,
ideas that don't have a shred of evidence behind them,
such as, if you encounter a dog man that's got

(49:36):
red eye shine, that's a dangerous one. If you encounter
one that's got amber eyeshine, then you don't have to
worry about it. I mean, there is no pattern, nothing
indicates that there's anything to that that that makes that
any kind of a fact. I've spoken with crediblelye witnesses
who've seen dog men that have amber eyeshine that did

(49:59):
things that we're kind of on the aggressive side, and
you know, the same thing holds true with dogmen with
red eyeshine. So yeah, there's no pattern to that. That's
one of the biggest problems about the whole dog man field.
There's so much bad info about dogmen out there. I
mean every time I turn around, there's more bad information
about them that I hear about.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Yeah, what is some of the we'll say, condescending information
that you hear from other places that that's a lot
different from what you hear from your eyewitnesses that come
on your show and that have talked to you or
emailed you and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (50:38):
Well, I've spoken with so many eyewitnesses over the years,
literally thousands and thousands of them. Like I talked about
earlier in the show, I mean, it gives you the
perfect opportunity to notice patterns. If you speak with four
people who've had experiences with whatever animal, then you might
start to notice in a way somewhat in the way

(51:02):
of patterns. But when you talk with thousands upon thousands
of people who have interacted with horses, well, yeah, they're
gonna notice patterns, and they're gonna share things with you
that you can take to the bank. Okay, Well, I've
heard this so many times shared by people who've interacted
with horses, so I know that, Yeah, it's a good idea.
If you're gonna feed a horse something it's a good

(51:25):
idea to keep your hand flat, keep that thumb tucked in,
because there's a pattern there of horses biting your hand
if you don't hold your hand just right when you're
feeding them. I mean, that's an exaggeration for an example there.
But yeah, when it comes to dog met there are
things that I've heard time after time after time. So yeah,

(51:50):
that's given me a level of familiarity with these guys
where I just get frustrated when I hear it put
out there by people who are just literally figuratively sticking
their toe in the water. When it comes to dog men,
put something out there as fact that has clearly been
I mean, just totally flies in the face of what
I've heard thousands upon thousands of eyewitnesses share with me.

(52:14):
One of the biggest things that I hear put out
there that is clearly wrong is this idea that dog
men are wired to rip you apart as soon as
the opportunity presents itself. If that was the case, I
wouldn't have spoken with thousands upon thousands of people who
were caught dead nuts to rights by one of these

(52:35):
guys but allowed to leave their encounter without so much
as a scratch. I mean people they that hear me
say that, and they hate to hear it because they
just have it in their minds that these guys have
to be dangerous, these guys have to be that way.
They're just sending me message after the message. Well, you

(52:55):
can't speak with the people who've been killed by these things, VIC,
so you don't know that you shouldn't say that. Well, yeah,
I can't speak with people who've been killed by dog men.
That's true. But there's a repeating pattern, time after time
after time to the point where it's clear that these
guys are not wired to rip you a part as

(53:16):
soon as the opportunity presents itself. Because look at the
sample size. If I'd only spoken with ten people twenty
people who've had encounters with these guys, then yeah, that's
not nearly a big enough sample size to come to
that conclusion. But when you speak with thousands upon thousands
of people who are caught dead nuts to write by

(53:37):
one of these things or more than one of these things,
but allowed to leave without any problems, any scratches, or
not a single hair in their heads being harmed, then
that right there definitively demonstrates the fact that, Okay, well
these guys they can't be wired to rip you a
part as soon as the opportunity presents itself, because with

(53:58):
that sample size, you would notice a lot of people
who were attacked. I mean, look at fire ants. If
you put your hand on a fire ant mound, I
mean you get a thousand times out of a thousand times,
they're gonna light you up. You know why, because they
actually are wired to be dangerous and they are wired

(54:19):
to attack as soon as the opportunity presents itself. That's
a scientific test that you can clearly do and get
a definitive answer on. With dog men, the sample size.
I mean, I've spoken with thousands upon thousands of people
who have told me credible people who have told me that, yeah,

(54:41):
they were in a very compromising circumstance where the dog
men had them dead to rights, but it let them
go without harming them. So that's why I say that
about dog Men. What really it boils down to is
there are shows out there who they don't have enough
draw to be able to air a new episode of
their show, of their podcast every week with a new

(55:04):
Dogmen eyewitness, and they've decided they want to focus on
dog men as a topic because dog man is kind
of like the hot Krypton. Now, well, since they don't
have enough draw to bring in enough guests to have
a new Dogmen eyewitness every week, what they'll do is
they know that fear of sells. They'll make up a
story about a dog man that's dangerous and it's trying

(55:26):
to kill people, or it is killing people. They'll put
it out there. It's actually a creepy pasta story that
they put out there as being a factual story. And
when they do that, yeah, that gets the more views.
But clearly we're talking about somebody who values money more
so than the truth, which really is a shame. Now,

(55:49):
I don't have any trouble at all with people who
want to put out creepy pasta stories about dog men
but don't present them as being true. I mean present
them as what they are, their fiction. That's why I'm
saying what I am. And I still not only produce
Dogman Encounters, which has true stories, but I also recently

(56:10):
started producing a podcast that has fictional dog man stories
called dog Man Tales. Now tales is not spelled tails,
it's spelled t A L e S. Because they are tales.
It's a group of fictional stories. So yeah, you can

(56:31):
do both. When I put it out there that I
was gonna start producing dog man tales, I got the
most ridiculous messages. I thought you were gonna I thought
you were the guy who wanted to focus on helping
eyewitnesses come to terms with their encounters. I thought helping
eyewitnesses with their encounters is important to you. Well, yes

(56:52):
it is. Who's to say that I can't help eyewitnesses
but also create fictional stories about dog men. I don't
present those fictional stories as being true. I don't present
those fictional stories on the same channel as dog men encounters.
They're separated. I've had tons and tons of people say, well,

(57:13):
you can't make fictional stories if you also produce a
show with true stories about dog men, and I just
want to just wrap them across the chops and tell
you look dummy that so, according to you, I can't
have an F three fifty a one ton F three
fifty in the driveway to haul a fifth wheel trailer
if I want to also have a Toyota Camri for

(57:35):
going to the grocery store to get my groceries in
the all that's right, ridiculous, ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
That's funny some of these people, I swear, Well, we
have Steven in the chat room that says that is it.
That's I guess the encounter with kids running into a
dog man in an old abandoned place building is his favorite.

Speaker 5 (58:04):
Oh yeah, I remember that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
The guest's name was Matt. Okay, that's interesting. You might
have to start listening to this.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
They're good. So we've come up on an hour. Uh
that's basically on Thursday as we do our our show.
I know, we got a lot we could talk about
a lot more stuff, but uh, maybe we can schedule
one of our two hour shows and you can come
back on. But if you want to give out your

(58:37):
information to your channels and and you know, tell everybody,
all our listeners where they can find you, will we'll
definitely put it on the sounds like a lot of
them already know. Yeah, everybody knows it. So I mean
if somebody's out there that that don't know, and we'll
definitely put the links to you in this show. And

(59:01):
so if you want to go ahead and do that.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Sure, Well the shows are really easy to find if
you wanted to find dog Me and Encounters Radio. You
can listen to dog Me and Encounters just like all
of my other shows, on your favorite podcast. If you
have had a dog mean encounter that you want to
report to me because ME want to have you want
to be a guest on the show where you need
help with it, then go to Dogman Encounters dot com

(59:26):
and submit a report. If you do that, then I'll
be more than happy to contact you so we can
schedule a phone consultation. Then then we'll take it from there.
If you want to listen to Bigfoot Eye Witness Radio,
then you can listen to that on any podcast app
out there. If you want to listen to my newest
bigfoot podcast called My Bigfoot Sighting, where it's just strictly

(59:49):
first hand accounts. I don't interview anyone, there's no back
and forth, it's just one hundred percent story time where
eyewitness after eyewitness comes on as shure as they're bigfoot sightings,
then yeah, you can listen to My Bigfoot Sightings on
your favorite podcast app, including iHeartRadio just like all of
my podcasts are also available on iHeartRadio or speaker Spotify. Yeah,

(01:00:12):
you name the podcast platform and you can listen that way,
and again the podcast apps. That's the best way to
listen to all of my shows. And then last but
not least, is the new Dogman podcast with fictional stories
called Dogman Tails. Again, it's Ta l Ees because they

(01:00:32):
are tails dog Me and Tails can also be found
on your favorite podcast application, so it makes it really
easy to listen to those. If you've had a bigfoot
sighting and you want to come on one of my
two bigfoot podcasts and share that experience with my listeners,
then yeah, the best way to do that. Set that
up is to go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com

(01:00:58):
and submit a guest for quest. If you do that,
then I'll contact you about coming on the show. But
a requirement is you have to have actually seen a sasquatch.
But there you have, a gentleman. That's how you can
listen to all my podcasts.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
That's awesome, it is, and your voice is so soothing,
I mean I could listen to it all not long.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Well, thank you. Maybe you can come back on the show.
I'll I'll ask you, I know for sure, in the
next few months. But I really appreciate you being here tonight.
And it's been a great show. A lot of our
viewers enjoyed it, or all of them did from the comments.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
So thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
Oh you're welcome. It's been fun. And of course if
you want me to come back then yeah, just let
me know and we'll get that set up. Then.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
All right, sounds great.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
You take care, good night you too, thank you, Yes, sir, Wow,
great guest.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
That was amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Yeah, he's got he he I love his voice too.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Yeah, I know, it's kind of makes me a little jealous.
You know what's crazy is that, you know he's got
a listing in his head of so many different of
these encounters. Yeah, that he's able to, you know, draw
these conclusions on on on these things. And that's that's

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just pretty neat it is. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
Well, remember this Saturday, eight pm Eastern time, we have
a two hour show with Harlee Owens.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Yes, we got to see him at the Bigfoot Conference.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
Yeah, from Bigfoot Reports and Data. He was a speaker
in the round table up there at the conference. He's
going to be joining us Saturday at eight pm Eastern time. Then,
also what we got next October the eleventh, We're going

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to be at the Knox County Public Library, in Ferrygut
talking about the paranormal. Yep, gonna be doing a little
presentation there. Then October, October twenty third, we're going to
be at.

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
U T.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
I think I don't know if it's going to be
on campus, but it's going to be with UT yeah,
and be another one. It'll be a one hour, one
hour yea on the paranormal. So definitely look forward to
seeing you there. And if you want to see what's
next on our shows, you could always go to our

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Facebook page. Jason everything on our Facebook page as far
as all of our upcoming shows. You could also visit
us on our website at panormafore one. That's right, woo,
So you're ready, you're ready, yeah, Jason Fish says, and
dog Man tails.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Yeah, dog mantails Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
I listened to some of it today and it was
his voice just telling a story. That's cool, it's soothing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Let's ask him if he just comes up with the stories,
you know, because I know he said that there are tails,
so that there the stories. But how he comes up
with those, that's prett neat all right, all right, everybody,
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