October 17, 2024 • 51 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hello everyone, and welcome, Welcome, Welcome to another episode on
the Purposes Greater Podcast. On tonight, we have a special
God's chosen vessel, a powerful woman of God. Look so
much the list could go on. I promise you need
to go and read her bio that is in the
caption Apostlesandra. Listen. She is truly a vessel of God,
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beautiful soul. I'm so excited to have connected with her.
She's doing amazing things, amazing things in ministry, in marketplace.
I think I had even posted you could find her everywhere,
especially building guys, kingdom. I'm so excited to have her
on tonight to share as tonight we're gonna be talking
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about a lot of different things about women in leadership.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Again.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I'm doctor Francis and Bailly I am the host, and
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it's going to be powerful again. I'm super excited. I'm
gonna allow this woman of God to introduce herself. Of
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course she can name it out better than I probably could,
as she does wear a lot of hats, but she
wears them well. Apostle Sandra again, welcome here on the show,
on the podcast. I'm excited and honor and humbled to
have you here, and could you let the people know
just introduce yourself who you are and what you do.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Absolutely first, I just want to say thank you so
much doctor Francis for having me.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It is an honor. I was so looking.
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Forward to meeting you live on here and you're absolutely beautiful,
so I love everything that you're doing.
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But anyway, it is an honor and a privilege.
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I'm Apostle Sandra Benelia Smith, and I am.
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From fresh Fire Apostolic Ministries.
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I am the founder and the apostle there and along
with my husband, Apostle Todd Smith, and we're also pastors
of Fresh Fire Church. That is part of our of
what we do. We have an Apostolic hub here in Simple, Ontario, Canada.
And just to give you a little bit of geographical
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location wise that you may be familiar with. We're about
an hour and a half from Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, and
so I know a lot of people know where Toronto
is because it's a major, major hub in Canada.
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And so we are here. We are truly blessed.
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We have our apostolic up here where we teach, we train,
we equip the body of Christ to do the things
of the Kingdom of God, to walk in the fullness
of their destiny. To you know, because of what we
have and who we have inside of us, we get
them healed, delivered, set free so they can walk fully
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in what God has purposed and plan for each each
person's lives. They meant we also do. We also have
an outreach ministry where we do a lot of outreach
in the community. We also go to you know, Aboriginal
Aboriginal people. Where we go, we're all over the place
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and simple here we've gone all over the place to
do out reach.
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We believe that helping the.
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Loss, the hurt, and the broken, the hungry, the homeless
is a big part of ministry and it's a big
part of who Jesus was, and so that's what we do.
We are so honored and blessed we get to travel
the world. I travel all over the place, Woman of God.
I love to travel. My husband stays and does the
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pastoral stuff as well. Sometimes he travels as well. But
we're all over the place, and I am honored to
go everywhere and anywhere to bring the fire of God
and the healing balm of Giliad to the people of God.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Amen.
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Amen, I told y'all she's a fireball. Listen, what a
name for the ministry. Definitely and mix it she does.
She's traveling. If you haven't, of course, at the end
we're going to have you guys need to follow her
what she's doing in her ministry, follow her ministry as
it is truly amazing. Words just just didn't have the
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words right. Super excited again, Apostle Sondra, Listen, I know
you do. So many people are coming in. They're super excited.
They're excited that you're here. I want you to share
if you know, just about being like I think the
foundation more of like just being in leadership. I guess
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before or however you choose to go about it, because
I know it, it can probably be different as being
a woman in leadership, but just being in leadership and
then being that woman in leadership in you know, navigating that.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, okay, Well, the Bible talks about fivefold ministry. You
know that that is that is the Church of Jesus Christ. Right,
We're not about a church. We're about the Kingdom. And
in the Kingdom of God, we've got fivefold ministry. That
is the apostolic covering over over ministries and men. And
so we got apostles, prophets, evangelist, preachers and teachers, pastors, amen,
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and so we all have a function. And in that
function we walk in whatever we've been commissioned and the
office that we've been commissioned to walk in and listen,
we're not all fivefold, but we're all apostolic. Amn, we
should all be Apostolic. But those that have actually been
called in the fivefold offices, you know, it's not just men.
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And so we want to bring that to everyone's attention
because I have also had so many critics, so much criticism,
so much judgment about being a woman and being on
fire for God. And you know, I walk in the
office of apostle and women of God. Listen, we're not
talking about apostles that are just naming themselves, okay, like
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the self promotion ones, the ones that just you know,
attach it to a flyer. We're talking being commissioned, called
by God first and then being commissioned by by apostolic
apostles that also recognize. And a prophet cannot commission an apostle, Okay,
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it just doesn't work that way. A pastor cannot commission
an apostle, and a prophet can't commission anything either. It's
the apostles. And so when we're walking in our divine calling,
called by God first and then recognized by other apostles
in that calling and in that office, even as a woman,
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we have had so much I know myself, I've had
so much criticism, so much judgment. It still exists today,
which I find it appalling, you know, because we have
so many examples in the Word of God where women
rose up and women were called apostles, prophets and pastors
and evangelists amen. And so you know, people want to
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use certain scriptures in the Bible for it to be
the end all and the be all that women are
not supposed to have a say, and we're supposed to
keep our mouths shut. And that's it's such an abomination
to the Lord, because, oh my God.
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Here's what.
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Here's my first scripture that I'm gonna put out there,
and it's Galatians three twenty eight.
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And in the words.
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Of Paul Apostle, Paul himself to the churches of Galatia,
he says, neither there is neither June nor Greek.
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There is neither slave nor fear. There is no.
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Male and female, for you are all one in Jesus Christ.
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Amen. That should end it, period. But it just simply
does not.
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And so we have a lot of people that have criticized,
criticized women in ministry, and especially apostles, prophets, those are
walking in these these fivefold ministry gifts and offices, and
so listen, I've been attacked. I've been physically attacked. I've
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been at in every which way, even in our services.
Men have come up to me and threatened me. I've
had threats online. I've had threats everywhere I go. I've
had threats. But guess what, there is no threat that
can take a calling off of a child of God,
male or female. It doesn't matter who you are, what
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you are where you've been. It cannot reduce what God
has called you to be. And so I'm here as
an example, as a testament that what God has done
in my life women of God, no man can tell
me no. A man, no man will ever tell me no.
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And not even men.
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There are also women women.
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Of God that will come after women trying to put
us in our place when God has already put us
in our place. So what God has played, no man
or woman can reduce or take out. And so and
here's what I always say. What God has done for
me in my life. You know with my you know,
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God has taken me out of the pits of hell
and brought me to higher ground. And God has appointed.
What God is appointed, no man can take it away.
And so if you didn't give me something, you can't
take it away. Because only if you gave me something,
then maybe you can take it away.
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But God gave it to me, so you can't take
it away.
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What God gave me a man, and what God gave
you a woman of God, nobody can take that away.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And so, you know, let me just say, there are
many statements in the.
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Word of God, and where we have gotten it wrong,
where we have misinterpreted, and it is just, it is
an abomination to the nostrils of God. We can name
off right here, right now, all the women in the
Bible that we're operating under a sanctioned gifting of God.
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And if you want us to start naming, I can
start naming women of God. But you have anything you
want to say before we get in, because you're sitting
here as well as a woman on fire for God.
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Amen. No one can take away our fire. Yes, tell you.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
You know.
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It's not even in the New Testament where the women
stood for their calling.
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It was even in the Old Testament. Deborah is one.
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She's not the New like come on, was a prophetess,
and it was because of her that she claimed a nation.
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All right.
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Her husband just had to obey her the command that
came out of her mouth from the Lord. As she
heard from the Lord, she heard from the Lord, she obeyed,
and she made the command, and her words spoke and
moved a nation. And so you know, we have to
grasp these things that are in the Word of God
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that depicts powerful women of God. Okay, even Jesus's mother,
who was chosen above all women. She was chosen to
give birth, you know, without a man, Hello with man,
but by the Holy Spirit.
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Let's get that, because someone need to get that.
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You didn't even need a man in order to have
Jesus Christ, because she was chosen by God and the
Holy Spirit. You know that that maculate conception, that's what
that's called. And so you know, we have all kinds
of examples in the world. So I'm going to stop
talking for a minute now.
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Listen, I told you you said so many jewels, and
the comments I can't even keep up is going I
can't even see those on the radio of course, right
and what they're saying is some probably had to pull
over by this moment because I'm sitting here like I
don't have to say anything else. We knew. Listen, you
dropped so many things. And the first thing that I remember,
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because you always remember the first thing someone say said
and the last thing they said, especially when you know
a lot of speaking is going on, but it's not
about church, it's about Kingdom. And they can't take away
you know, you can't take away something that God has
given me. And so you really have my baby leaping,
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you know, sharing And for the women here, the women
here that are in ministry, are that in leadership or
just have a call to just realize that they don't
have to back down from what God has placed on
their life and breaking that down and showing them that
they have a place. This is truly a blessing. And yes,
you can just you can keep sharing apostle because I
know you you had more you wanted to get into.
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And definitely that's what we're here for to talk about
the apostolic the women in leadership. And I love how
you broke down the order of it and about these
self affirmed leaders and that how that that that just
can't work right and then having a pastor to affirm
and then having a profit it to do it, and
and and you know, I love the order that you
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that you brought there about this and about the filefold
and about having a place or you know, and how
you know everyone should be apostolically moving, you know, building
the kingdom right even if you're you're not in that office.
And so I think that brought so much clarity to
those that are listening. And you just can keep sharing
about women and leadership. You can pick up from where
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you was about to go, because this is this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Thank you, Amen, thank you woman of God.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yes, and so yeah, we get back to the self
proclaimed and all that. Let me tell you something, if
God did not give you the grace, I would say,
knock it off real quick, because we are accountable to Heaven.
We are accountable when we stand before God and we've
given ourselves a position. And God did not grace you
for that position or that office, as a woman, as
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a man, as anything, there will be uh. You know,
we are are going to reap what we sold. And
so I always find it very you know, you know
what's going on in the world today and on Facebook
and on social media where people are self naming themselves
into these positions.
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There is a price to pay for that. Amen.
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And the devil knows rank. Let me just tell you that,
whether you're a woman or a man, the devil knows rank.
As much as God has given us the rank in
the spirit. Amen, He's given us rank in the spirit,
and the enemy knows our rank. And so when we
are falling under these predetermined, self determined things, the enemy
knows that you have not been appointed for the position,
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and so he will wreak havoc in your life.
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So let me just send that off.
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As a warning to men and women that are self
appointing themselves in positions that they have not been graced
for amen. And so it's very important. But getting back
to the matter of women in ministry, you know, just
that scripture alone Galatians three twenty eight.
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You know, we have to remember that we when the
Bible talks about the sons of God, the sons of
God have no gender.
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The sons of God when it is done in lower case.
The son of God is always capital, but the sons
of God is lower case. And he doesn't really say
the sons and daughters of God in the Word of God.
He says the sons of God. All the earth will
grow to wait. They're waiting for the sons of God
to manifest thement. What that means is the sons of God.
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There is no gender, male or female. It's lower case.
So there is no gender in the interpretations of the
Word of God. And so we have to be really careful.
And I want to also give you some misunderstood scriptures. Okay,
there's myths understood scriptures, and there is a verse that
has been used as Okay, I'm gonna say it, but it.
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It's kind of a club against women in ministry, okay,
and women of God.
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I was just not that long ago.
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I was at Uh you know, we did a thing
here at the Jesus Festival. I don't know if you
saw it, but I was asked to share my testimony
up on stage.
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It was in a park here in the city of Hamilton.
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At the end, after I gave it my all and
I shared my testimony, I came off of the stage.
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And immediately four young.
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Guides were standing there ready to eat me alive and
talk about how dare you say you are an apostle
and going on. As soon as I left the platform
at just releasing my testimony, many people getting healed, delivered
and set free. But this is the enemy that uses
these misinterpretations and these type of teachings that people fall
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prey to, and then they the enemy, will use it
to attack right in the midst of the glory.
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Amen, right in the midst of the glory. So I
dealt with that right then and there.
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And then my husband had the step in because there
was people waiting to get he'll delivered and set free.
And I'm telling you, I don't have time for crack
pops like that anymore. I just don't God, bless.
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You, love you, but gotta go. There is work to do.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I just don't have time for this anymore, you know,
because God has appointed us. So let me just give you.
Let me talk about this one misunderstood scripture.
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Okay.
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And again it's a club. It's a club that's against
women in ministry. And for years it's this one one
Timothy three to two.
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And you know, if I.
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May say it, it's sexist. I'm sorry, Okay, I said it.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I said it. Okay.
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So and so many people are afraid of the scripture
because they don't understand it and they want to use
it against us as women and leaders in ministry or otherwise.
They meant, it doesn't even not that it's the ministry.
It's even in secular that women can't be the boss.
You know, we don't have authority.
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Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Okay, let's go back to this scripture because I've got
a lot to say about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Now listen, it says a bit shop.
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Then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant,
sober of good behavior, given to a hospitality and to teach.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Now again this is one Timothy three to two.
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And what is always stressed here is that the husband
it is the husband of one wife.
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Amen, we got to read that again. So this means
that a woman.
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Can't preach only men because a woman can't be a
husband to one wife. You see how that is myth interpreted?
Should I say this again? Like it is myth interpreted?
The scripture is not dealing with gender, but it's dealing
rather with faithfulness and monogamy. That's what that scripture is
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dealing with, my friends. So we need an eye opener again.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
That is one Timothy three to two. Paul wrote this
instruction to correct the error of having more than one's spouse.
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It was not to disqualify women. Okay, it was not
to disqualify women. It is true that anyone who desires
to be a church official wants to be something worthwhile.
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That's why officials must have a good reputation. The Bible
says it.
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They must be a good reputation, okay, and faithful in marriage.
They must be self controlled, sensible, and now we're talking
about one Timothy three one to three. They must be
self controlled, sensible, well behaved, friendly to strangers, and able
to teach they must not be heavy drinkers or troublemakers. Instead,
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they must be kind and gentle and not love money. Okay,
now I'm gonna keep going. The second passage I want
to look at also that is being used as a
club against women is one Corinthians fourteen thirty four and
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thirty five. It says, let your women keep silent in
the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but
they are to be submissive, as the law also say.
And if they want to learn something, let them ask
their own husbands at home, for it is shameful for
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women to speak in church. So this is the scripture
that gets thrown and blasted at us all the time. Amen,
all the time. But let me just break it down
because in order to get the context of the passage,
there are two things that are required here. And I
want to give this to you because we broke it down.
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I've broken it down for you. First and understanding that
there is one Greek word for man and one Greek
word for women, and none for a husband and wife. Okay,
we need to understand this. Second, the circumstances that we
are occurring in the church in current that Paul was
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writing to correct. Okay, there was a circumstance he was
writing to. He was writing about. It was a particular circumstance.
So the decision to make this general and applying to
women in general as opposed to wives was the decision
of the translators of that scripture. Okay, I'm gonna break
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it down, and then we're gonna we're gonna go on.
So why would the word for the female be general
to all women and the word for male be specific
applying to a husband?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Mm hmm. Okay.
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We must also remember that the custom of the day
back then was that women sat on one side. Do
we remember that in the Word of God, women sat
on one side of the church and the men sat
on the other side, Not like we have it today,
mind you, And I think in Africa when my husband
went there, they did they still continued to do that.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Okay.
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They still continue to have the women on one side
and the men on the other side. What Paul was
writing about was to correct.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Okay, Paul was writing to correct that wives were asking
their husband's questions in the assembly that dealt with the
home when they did not belong there.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Okay, those questions were not supposed to happen in church.
That's what they was. That's what Paul was referring to wives.
And the scripture goes on, wives must not disrupt worship
talking when they should be listening, asking questions that could
be more appropriately being asked of their husbands at home.
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That's what the scripture says. Okay, God's Book of the Law.
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Guides are manners and customs to your wives have no license.
It continues to say, to use the time of worship
for unwarranted speaking. And you can find that in One
Corinthians fourteen thirty four and thirty five. Okay, So we
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need to be so careful how we are interpreting the
word of God.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Okay.
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Paul was speaking directly to the church of corinth because
the women were constantly bugging the men about matters of
the home, and that was not the appropriate at place
for them to be speaking of matters of the home.
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So he said, the women need to be silent about
those things.
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Hello, Hello, have we brought some revelation? Amen, we brought
some revelation. So this is what I'm trying to tell you.
Like in the Word of God, I can I can
give you all kinds of scriptures that will will will
support the fact that women were positioned to be leaders
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in the church. One again, Deborah, Okay in Barrack that
was the prophetess was right there. We've got apostles that
were named in the Word of God. There's apostle Junia,
apostle Anna, there's the There, there's Priscilla, Priscilla and Aquilla.
And listen, when you study about Priscilla, who was the wife,
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who was the woman and Aquilla, the Bible also gives
you an interpretation that they worked with the apostle Paul,
and they had their own ministry, and Priscilla always came
before Aquila, which tells you that she was more of
the leader in that ministry. Hmm. You gotta get to
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the Word. We gotta study the Word of God to
understand these things.
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Amen.
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We had evangelists look at that the merit and the
woman at the well, the woman at the wealthy. A
lot of people don't understand the story. They think she
was a prostitute. Nowhere in the Word of God does
that say the woman at the well was a prostitute.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Nowhere. If you find that for me, give it.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
To me, because it doesn't say that she was just
a woman that was divorced five times and was now
the Lord spoke to her.
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He was He had the hat of the Prophet on.
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Jesus had the prophetic hat on right now, the heart
of the Prophet, and he.
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Spoke to her. Yes, you've been divorced five times, and
now the man that you are with right now.
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You're just living with him. That's how he proved to
her he was the Christ, and he did not judge her.
She was the first evangelist in the New Testament. You see,
she testified, She ran back, and she testified to three
thousand people who got saved in her own community. She
was the first evangelist, and she was not the nameless
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woman of God. If you study about the woman at
the well, her name was Fontini. And if you continue
to study about Fontini, she led nate countries and nations
to Christ. Okay, she was also known as an apostle.
So I don't know how much more we can give you,
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but I am telling you there are many women in
the Word of God that described leadership in women, so
as the women of God, and I are trying to
spread this good news because this is good news of
the Gospel. Not only our salvation men and women of God,
but it's good news because we have been appointed with
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the Dna of Jesus. Man and woman, we all carry
the same spirit, the Spirit of God. You can't tell
me that a man's spirit inside of him, of the
Spirit of God, is a greater spirit of God that's
dwelling inside of me as a woman, I don't think so.
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We've got the.
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Same spirit of God that is dwelling in each and
every one of us. The spirit of God that raised
laughterus from the dead is in me as it is
in any man. And the Word of God says that
we will do greater exploits once the spirit.
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Has come upon us, the spirit of God.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
It didn't say, man, you will do greater exploits, not
the women. I can tell you we will do greater
exploits because I am a demonstration of God doing exploits
because of the Spirit of God that is in me.
Now I'm not saying I'm greater than you, greater than anyone.
I just walk in the fullness of what God has
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me doing. And you can do the same thing as
a woman of God. You're gonna take up your rightful
position and you're gonna walk with the same spirit that
raised Lazarus.
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From the dead. We got the DNA of Jesus. He
didn't dumb and dumbed down the blood when he injected
it in a woman.
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It's the same blood of Jesus. That's why the Bible
also says, we are not blaff. We are not white,
we are not yellow, we are not red. I'm not
just Italian, You're not just Aboriginal, You're not just Nigerian.
We have all the same blood of Jesus, the DNA.
So even color, people of God, we are all one
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according to the Word of God. Men, women, color, race.
That's what the Bible says. I'm gonna stop there.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
So wow, wow did she not drop the mic? And
then she dropped the mic. Oh my god, I'm speechless
because I thank God for you sharing every thing you share.
I am literally on fire over here, literally and this
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listen is everything that you said on tonight, breaking it
down in the scriptures to back it up with the
word and giving this clarity and probably breaking some chains
off of these women who are called to lead, who
are called to have a voice, but have Oh I
love when you said God did not dumb down the
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blood of Jesus, the Holy Spirit. So why do we
as women when we have the same spirit, Well, why
do we have to walk in rooms and dumb down
while we don't have.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
To do that?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
And so that is so I know that some women
are getting set free and realizing that they have a
voice and that they have have a call, and they're
called to build kingdom too, you know, I mean, it's
just I am speechless. I thank you for everything that
you have shared one tonight. Women of God apostle. I
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do not know if you still have more than you
need to say. Listen, they're still there, are going off
in these comments, they are listen, listen, you guys are
gonna have to connect with her. She's a fireball. This
isn't just like for tonight. This is who she is.
If you go to her ministry and look at her page,
this is who she is. This is who she is,
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a fireball and truly standing and helping bring in clarity
and understanding, not just having a point on an opinion.
You guys, this is not opinionated. This is backed up
with the word of God that you have a place.
They're coming from over, from all over South Africa. They
are all here, they're excited to be here. Woman of God, apostle.
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I don't know if you I do have if you,
if there's a woman who's listening, that's even that writing.
I know you gave the scripture, you gave everything, you've
broken out, But is there anything that you would want
to say to a woman who is wanting to lead? Uh?
But feel that there are in a place of that
dumb and down position, like they don't have a voice.
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You know, what would you say to them to encourage them,
you know that to come forth? Come forth?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Amen?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Well, here's what I would say, is come forth exactly that,
because because of who we were created to be, Liten,
we all have a story, we all have a testimony.
We've all come from hurt and broken places. We've all
come from maybe marriages as well, where you know.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
The man's got the thumb on.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
But we could even get into that one day as well. Okay,
you know the man, you know women must have meant
and all that. There is a lot of teaching that
is incorrect even in that. But that's going to be
for another day. But I want to tell you were
created for such a time as this to be.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
A woman of God.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
To rise up and do as God is convicting you
to do. Because there are many online that have been
how back and how back, so tight. But God has
been convicting you to come forth, because we are not
to be how back. We are the sons and we
are the daughters of God, and we will be raised
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up and trained and equipped to rise up and be
the all that God has planned and purpose for us
to be. You see God, if God already says he says,
I fountioned you in your mother's womb before you were
even in your mother's womb, So He already called you
even prior to your mom and dad even haven't a
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thought about you, you are already a thought in the
bosom of God. And so God, if you were already
fashioned before you were even in your mother's wound, God.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Had a calling on your life already. So there is
no person, there is no that. We're not here to
put men down. We are not.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
We are here to raise them up and lift them
up as well, but to help people and the women
too that believe in that false doctrine, to.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Break all of that, because that is a lie of
the enemy. The enemy wants to keep you subdue. You've
got fire in you, you've got miracles in you, you've
got feeling in you. I mean, we have been born
for such a time as if to release the exploits
of God. There are people that are waiting.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
For you to be saved, to be made whole, and
it's the Jesus in you that's doing it. I get
all that. I'm not saying, you know, let's let's give
God the glory for it all. Absolutely, but we have
been born as vessels, as ambassadors of Christ, to come
and position ourselves rightly and justly according to the Word
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of God and walk in our purpose.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
So I would just say, rise up. God has been
convicting you, the spirit of God has been convicting you,
to get up out of that part of the blanket
of Liza, because that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It's a deception and it is a lie. It is
not the word of God. It is not the truth
of the word of God. Because we see in the
scriptures there was women Deborah, Elena, Priscilla, Junia, they all
the Samaritan woman, the woman at the well. You know,
God didn't judge them, Jesus didn't judge her. As a
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matter of fact, let me just say this. You know,
as much as even a woman isn't supposed to be
preaching or any of that.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Jesus even said, you've been divorced. You were divorced five times.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
How about that false doctrine that even if you're divorced,
you can't preach.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Excuse me, I have been divorced. I've been divorced two
times in my life because of everything that the enemy
had me believed. And I'm still preaching and giving it
all I got, ministering to people, healing, deliverance and teaching
about the Kingdom of God. Even the woman.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
At the well, we know she was divorced for whatever reasons. Okay,
she was not a prostitute, but Jesus still used her.
God used her to deliver a nation as well. Three
thousand people like that were saved in her own community.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And she went on and she was five times. So
let me tell you something. Man does not qualify you.
God qualifies you.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Man only affirms what God has already commissioned and ordained.
And so rise up, women of God, because you have
wasted enough time with this falseness and being submitted under
a hand of false deception. In the name of Jesus,
you will come out of that, and you will walk
in your purpose and get the flame of fire ignited
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back into you and walk in the purpose of God.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Wow, my, my, my mind.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
I was rocking and moving and sitting up, and I
was forrid to God. I don't know who's getting up tonight,
but I think some women are getting up tonight and
going forth. And you know, oh, it's so good how
you were saying, like you know, it's not even just
coming from the men. It can be just coming from
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the women, because you know, even growing up, when I
grew up in a.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Religious household where my father used to.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Tell me and I never understood, so it made me
so double mind. It used to say, you're chosen in
your call, but women can't preach. It was just like
I'm not understanding that. So what am I called and
chosen for? Then? Like I mean, what is but I
can't preach? And but now my father, like now he
has grown and now since this has been broken down
and knowing the scriptures and everything I see has gotten
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you know, the change the fell off him and he
accepts the fact that his daughter is a minister and
that's just who God has called me to be, you know,
and so you know I understand it. Sometimes it can
start at home and my mom just used to repeat
what he said, you know, because that's just learned, right,
And so sometimes we gotta go, we gotta unlearn the
things we have learned, and uh be ready to walk
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in on purpose in our call. And so I know
that you have helped some women on tonight. They're coming forth.
Uh woman, as she was saying, it's time to come forth,
you have wasted enough time. That's right there when you
think about it, knowing that you have a purpose in
a call and you're yes, it's connected to someone destiny,
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and you're wasting time. It's time to come forth. And
so I thank you for sharing on tonight. Really listen,
you blessed me. I knew you was coming with the fire.
I knew you were coming with the fire. Listen before
I know that they the individuals here, want to follow you.
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I know you didn't want to hear more of your teachings.
I know they want to, you know, get connected, and
so can you share with them apostle you know how
they can connect with you on social media on your
platforms to continue to have this empowerment. You know, this
is who she is. This is fine.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
What I'll do is I'll just write it really real
quick down here. That way you have it, nobody have to.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, that's and then I'm just going to give this you.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
And for those who's listening on the radio, don't worry.
We're gonna say it because I know you're and you're like,
I can't see it. Radio radio, radio, Apple where, yeah, everywhere,
Google Music, Amazon everywhere.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Hall Alujah Jesus there. So there's some things there. It's
info at fresh Fireministries dot ca a is my email
if you want to connect. Our website is fresh Fireministries
dot ca a. My Facebook page is Sandra Benalia and
it's got the blue check okay because so many false
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false pages, and we also have uh okay. Another Facebook
page is fresh Fire Apostolic Ministries as well. That's another
that's our our ministry facebook page.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
But yes, I just want to say, ladies, listen.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
If there's men on here too, that's fabulous.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
There are some amazing.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Men who you support women and you know, don't fall
prey to any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
And I love them.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
I love them to pieces and I love men, but
you know when they come.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
At us about this stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
And again, let me just say, I've had women too,
because we haven't understood you know, the word of God.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
And all these amazing women in the Word of God.
We could go on and.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
On about these amazing women who did ministry. I want
to encourage you. You know you may get the backlash.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
You will.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
You will get backlash. I still get backlash. I've been
in ministry since twenty twelve, and I still get backlash
even just like I said just a month ago out
out in the park, you know when that big festival
was going on. But I want to tell you to
keep going. We do not let anyone or any I'm
not saying any man as a gender, man or woman
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put us to shame. Okay, the devil wants to put
us to shame. And God already, Jesus Christ already took
our shame two thousand years ago.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
And so listen.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
I never believed that was qualified to do anything. I
came from hurt, I came from broken, I came from loss,
I came from abuse. I came from addiction, oppression, depression, suicide.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
I've lived all of that.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Like I said, divorce twice, failure in marriage, and every
single thing. And I've had it all come back to
me by people that did not believe in my calling.
But for every person that did not believe in my calling,
God does. And there are many others that believe in
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your calling. So you just got to get and surround
yourself with those that believe who you are and what
God has called you, that they can see past all
of that stuff and right into your heart and your.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Spirit, man, because it's all of the motive of our hearts.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
And then, like I said, I didn't qualify for anything,
and I still don't. But God will use us anyway,
even in our brokenness, in our hurt, and in our pain.
God will use us any way to bring healing and
deliverance to the world.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
And so you have been called and I just.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Pat them back up and to bring them back on
higher ground, you know, and to stand around one another
and to support one another in these battles, because the
devil will use anything and anyone to try to stop
you from walking in the fullness of your destiny. Amen.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
And I have given each and every one of us
giftings women of God.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Whether whatever those giftings are, and we do not listen
when we stand before God. When that day comes and
we're standing before God, God's gonna ask us what did
you do.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
With the gifts that I gave you?
Speaker 3 (43:58):
And you cannot stand there and say, well, I understood
or mine someone told me that I'm a woman. I
can't preach. That's not going to be an excuse to
the king, because the Bible has every answer that we
are looking for.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Amen.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Amen, don't be caught off guard, like like the the
ten virgins and the two that that only two had
the oil. Amen, So don't be caught off guard or
the man that that you know buried his money and
and and said what what did you do with the gifts?
Speaker 2 (44:34):
There's no excuse for the Lord. You have been called,
you have been chosen, you.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Have been purposed for such a time as this, And
we are walking women of God. We are walking in
such an incredible intense time right now. And if there's
an incredible move of God that is happening over the
earth right now, we're either going to get on board
or we're not that that that training coming around again.
We're in the final leg of this race. And if
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you haven't noticed, you know, the glory of God has elevated.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
It's intense, but so has the enemy.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
And the intention of the enemy is to knock you
out of your assignments. And you know, just the other day,
I don't know if you all saw, I was in
a horrific accident. But here I am, okay today Thursday.
This happened to me Monday. That devil is a liar
and we're going to put him to shame. So he
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tried to stop the call of God and tried to
kill us a man.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
But what God has planned.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
And purpose, no devil in hell can take you out.
And so I just encourage you and I compel you
to rise up as women of God. We need more
apostolic leaders. You don't have to be you know the Fivefold.
You can just be wherever sphere you're in, whatever mountain
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top you're on, whether it's education, whether it's home and family,
whether it's it's government. Wherever you are, you are called
by God.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Man or woman. Remember Galatians three twenty eight. There's no
such thing as man or there's no gender to the Lord. Amen.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
And so I just I just encourage you right up
and take your sword, take your rightful position and get up,
get up and go in Jesus' name.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Oh what a blessing you were on tonight. Listen, Rise up,
listen so many key she said, so many things the thing,
rise up. And God will use you anyway and anyhow.
And so that is no excuses. God will use you anyhow.
And so that right there is a deal breaker.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Up.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
You have truly blessed me. Everyone listening you have. What
a great teaching, what a great impart that you have
brought on tonight. I am thankful for you, Apostle. I am.
I am truly thankful for you as a woman in leadership,
truly inspirn listen. I honor you to the individuals here
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on tonight. Listen. They are still saying they're going to
catch the replay. They're gonna listen. You can listen to
it as many times as you want if you If
you don't listen to it on Facebook, listen. Tell if
you have a member in the family that isn't a Facebook,
uh technology person, tell them where Google Google it, Google it.
It's going to be there on the radio. Okay, listen
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to it with the link. This is truly an impartation
that someone else needs to send this to anyone that
you know that's having an issue with coming forth, with
rising up, just leading right, even if they're not grabbing
the mic like she was, just saying, whatever mountaintop God
has you on, lead and lead well, Come forth and
lead and lead well. And so it's just about breaking
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those chains and getting off that mac, coming forth and
doing what God has purposed you to do because people
are waiting for you. And again, Apostle, I thank you
for coming on. She has shared. It's in the comments
how to connect with her. It is also if you
haven't heard, you catch the replay of rewind it back.
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She did state her email, Facebook pages, everywhere that you
can connect with her. I don't know if she's open
for bookings for whatever, listen, but reach out to her
if you need her. I'm super excited, Apostle, thank you
for you're just taking the time to impart on tonight
to the women who needed this impartation to I'm trying
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to tell you I literally felt the fire through the computer,
so I know that if whoever wants to receive this
impartation received, there is no excuses because the power of
God is definitely was definitely here and it's still here
on tonight, on this episode, Apostle, I always do this
and say, you know, if there is there anything else
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that you would like to share with anyone or whatever
God is leading on your heart to share before we
do in this episode on tonight.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
I just want to share that as a woman, you
can do it. I just you know, I still work
full time. I work for the government. I work full time,
full time ministry. Just because you work full time doesn't
mean ministry is not full time. It's still full time.
And then you know we I travel all over the place.
I want you to know you can do it too.
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If God did this for me and for the woman
of God here, he will do it for each and
every one of you. All you got to give him
is your yes. Open yourself up, just say yes, Lord,
you know what. I'm ready to rise up as a
woman for you, as a woman of God for you,
and watch him have you sore and roar. When you
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give guard your yes, be careful. Don't give him your
yes if you're not serious yes.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yes, and you're know me no.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
But when you give him your yes, get ready, but
your bacco up. God's ready to take you for a
serious joy ride with him and yes, I just want.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
To read I love it. I love it. Thank you
Apostle for what you shared on tonight. Listen y'all. I
don't know, Apostle might be back for a part two
later or something. I don't know. Listen, we need She
really dropped the mic on tonight. I knew she was
coming heavy. I'm I'm so excited again. And for those
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who are listening, please catch the replay. If you're listening over,
please comment replay inside of the comments. Take the time
to share the video. If you don't want to share
it on your profile, I get it. Share it a messenger,
Share it to someone's text messages, share it the snapchat, Facebook,
and you know has gotten so sad. You can actually
take these videos and share it wherever you want. Share it,
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and if you're listening on the radio, take the time
of course pull over, share the link to some family
members who you believe that need this impartation as we
want to. As she said, spread this good news right,
spread this good news to the woman. And I thank
you again Apostle for your teaching the breakdown for the
Word of God. As I always say, listen until next time.
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I believe the first step and having a purpose sale
is to realize that what you're facing isn't greater than
God's purpose. We may have Apostle back. I thank you
again for everyone who tune in until next time. Good night,
and thank you all for tuning in and sharing this
moment with me An apostle good night, good night,
Hello everyone, and welcome, Welcome, Welcome to another episode on
the Purposes Greater Podcast. On tonight, we have a special
God's chosen vessel, a powerful woman of God. Look so
much the list could go on. I promise you need
to go and read her bio that is in the
caption Apostlesandra. Listen. She is truly a vessel of God,
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beautiful soul. I'm so excited to have connected with her.
She's doing amazing things, amazing things in ministry, in marketplace.
I think I had even posted you could find her everywhere,
especially building guys, kingdom. I'm so excited to have her
on tonight to share as tonight we're gonna be talking
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about a lot of different things about women in leadership.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Again.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I'm doctor Francis and Bailly I am the host, and
I know that we are streaming on several different platforms.
We're on our Heart Radio Apple Podcast listen. I know
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Speaker 2 (01:27):
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it's going to be powerful again. I'm super excited. I'm
gonna allow this woman of God to introduce herself. Of
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course she can name it out better than I probably could,
as she does wear a lot of hats, but she
wears them well. Apostle Sandra again, welcome here on the show,
on the podcast. I'm excited and honor and humbled to
have you here, and could you let the people know
just introduce yourself who you are and what you do.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Absolutely first, I just want to say thank you so
much doctor Francis for having me.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It is an honor. I was so looking.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Forward to meeting you live on here and you're absolutely beautiful,
so I love everything that you're doing.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But anyway, it is an honor and a privilege.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I'm Apostle Sandra Benelia Smith, and I am.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
From fresh Fire Apostolic Ministries.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I am the founder and the apostle there and along
with my husband, Apostle Todd Smith, and we're also pastors
of Fresh Fire Church. That is part of our of
what we do. We have an Apostolic hub here in Simple, Ontario, Canada.
And just to give you a little bit of geographical
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location wise that you may be familiar with. We're about
an hour and a half from Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, and
so I know a lot of people know where Toronto
is because it's a major, major hub in Canada.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And so we are here. We are truly blessed.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
We have our apostolic up here where we teach, we train,
we equip the body of Christ to do the things
of the Kingdom of God, to walk in the fullness
of their destiny. To you know, because of what we
have and who we have inside of us, we get
them healed, delivered, set free so they can walk fully
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in what God has purposed and plan for each each
person's lives. They meant we also do. We also have
an outreach ministry where we do a lot of outreach
in the community. We also go to you know, Aboriginal
Aboriginal people. Where we go, we're all over the place
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and simple here we've gone all over the place to
do out reach.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
We believe that helping the.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Loss, the hurt, and the broken, the hungry, the homeless
is a big part of ministry and it's a big
part of who Jesus was, and so that's what we do.
We are so honored and blessed we get to travel
the world. I travel all over the place, Woman of God.
I love to travel. My husband stays and does the
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pastoral stuff as well. Sometimes he travels as well. But
we're all over the place, and I am honored to
go everywhere and anywhere to bring the fire of God
and the healing balm of Giliad to the people of God.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Amen, I told y'all she's a fireball. Listen, what a
name for the ministry. Definitely and mix it she does.
She's traveling. If you haven't, of course, at the end
we're going to have you guys need to follow her
what she's doing in her ministry, follow her ministry as
it is truly amazing. Words just just didn't have the
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words right. Super excited again, Apostle Sondra, Listen, I know
you do. So many people are coming in. They're super excited.
They're excited that you're here. I want you to share
if you know, just about being like I think the
foundation more of like just being in leadership. I guess
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before or however you choose to go about it, because
I know it, it can probably be different as being
a woman in leadership, but just being in leadership and
then being that woman in leadership in you know, navigating that.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, okay, Well, the Bible talks about fivefold ministry. You
know that that is that is the Church of Jesus Christ. Right,
We're not about a church. We're about the Kingdom. And
in the Kingdom of God, we've got fivefold ministry. That
is the apostolic covering over over ministries and men. And
so we got apostles, prophets, evangelist, preachers and teachers, pastors, amen,
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and so we all have a function. And in that
function we walk in whatever we've been commissioned and the
office that we've been commissioned to walk in and listen,
we're not all fivefold, but we're all apostolic. Amn, we
should all be Apostolic. But those that have actually been
called in the fivefold offices, you know, it's not just men.
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And so we want to bring that to everyone's attention
because I have also had so many critics, so much criticism,
so much judgment about being a woman and being on
fire for God. And you know, I walk in the
office of apostle and women of God. Listen, we're not
talking about apostles that are just naming themselves, okay, like
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the self promotion ones, the ones that just you know,
attach it to a flyer. We're talking being commissioned, called
by God first and then being commissioned by by apostolic
apostles that also recognize. And a prophet cannot commission an apostle, Okay,
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it just doesn't work that way. A pastor cannot commission
an apostle, and a prophet can't commission anything either. It's
the apostles. And so when we're walking in our divine calling,
called by God first and then recognized by other apostles
in that calling and in that office, even as a woman,
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we have had so much I know myself, I've had
so much criticism, so much judgment. It still exists today,
which I find it appalling, you know, because we have
so many examples in the Word of God where women
rose up and women were called apostles, prophets and pastors
and evangelists amen. And so you know, people want to
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use certain scriptures in the Bible for it to be
the end all and the be all that women are
not supposed to have a say, and we're supposed to
keep our mouths shut. And that's it's such an abomination
to the Lord, because, oh my God.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Here's what.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Here's my first scripture that I'm gonna put out there,
and it's Galatians three twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
And in the words.
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Of Paul Apostle, Paul himself to the churches of Galatia,
he says, neither there is neither June nor Greek.
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There is neither slave nor fear. There is no.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Male and female, for you are all one in Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Amen. That should end it, period. But it just simply
does not.
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And so we have a lot of people that have criticized,
criticized women in ministry, and especially apostles, prophets, those are
walking in these these fivefold ministry gifts and offices, and
so listen, I've been attacked. I've been physically attacked. I've
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been at in every which way, even in our services.
Men have come up to me and threatened me. I've
had threats online. I've had threats everywhere I go. I've
had threats. But guess what, there is no threat that
can take a calling off of a child of God,
male or female. It doesn't matter who you are, what
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you are where you've been. It cannot reduce what God
has called you to be. And so I'm here as
an example, as a testament that what God has done
in my life women of God, no man can tell
me no. A man, no man will ever tell me no.
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And not even men.
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There are also women women.
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Of God that will come after women trying to put
us in our place when God has already put us
in our place. So what God has played, no man
or woman can reduce or take out. And so and
here's what I always say. What God has done for
me in my life. You know with my you know,
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God has taken me out of the pits of hell
and brought me to higher ground. And God has appointed.
What God is appointed, no man can take it away.
And so if you didn't give me something, you can't
take it away. Because only if you gave me something,
then maybe you can take it away.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
But God gave it to me, so you can't take
it away.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
What God gave me a man, and what God gave
you a woman of God, nobody can take that away.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And so, you know, let me just say, there are
many statements in the.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Word of God, and where we have gotten it wrong,
where we have misinterpreted, and it is just, it is
an abomination to the nostrils of God. We can name
off right here, right now, all the women in the
Bible that we're operating under a sanctioned gifting of God.
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And if you want us to start naming, I can
start naming women of God. But you have anything you
want to say before we get in, because you're sitting
here as well as a woman on fire for God.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Amen. No one can take away our fire. Yes, tell you.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
It's not even in the New Testament where the women
stood for their calling.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
It was even in the Old Testament. Deborah is one.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
She's not the New like come on, was a prophetess,
and it was because of her that she claimed a nation.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
All right.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Her husband just had to obey her the command that
came out of her mouth from the Lord. As she
heard from the Lord, she heard from the Lord, she obeyed,
and she made the command, and her words spoke and
moved a nation. And so you know, we have to
grasp these things that are in the Word of God
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that depicts powerful women of God. Okay, even Jesus's mother,
who was chosen above all women. She was chosen to
give birth, you know, without a man, Hello with man,
but by the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Let's get that, because someone need to get that.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
You didn't even need a man in order to have
Jesus Christ, because she was chosen by God and the
Holy Spirit. You know that that maculate conception, that's what
that's called. And so you know, we have all kinds
of examples in the world. So I'm going to stop
talking for a minute now.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Listen, I told you you said so many jewels, and
the comments I can't even keep up is going I
can't even see those on the radio of course, right
and what they're saying is some probably had to pull
over by this moment because I'm sitting here like I
don't have to say anything else. We knew. Listen, you
dropped so many things. And the first thing that I remember,
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because you always remember the first thing someone say said
and the last thing they said, especially when you know
a lot of speaking is going on, but it's not
about church, it's about Kingdom. And they can't take away
you know, you can't take away something that God has
given me. And so you really have my baby leaping,
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you know, sharing And for the women here, the women
here that are in ministry, are that in leadership or
just have a call to just realize that they don't
have to back down from what God has placed on
their life and breaking that down and showing them that
they have a place. This is truly a blessing. And yes,
you can just you can keep sharing apostle because I
know you you had more you wanted to get into.
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And definitely that's what we're here for to talk about
the apostolic the women in leadership. And I love how
you broke down the order of it and about these
self affirmed leaders and that how that that that just
can't work right and then having a pastor to affirm
and then having a profit it to do it, and
and and you know, I love the order that you
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that you brought there about this and about the filefold
and about having a place or you know, and how
you know everyone should be apostolically moving, you know, building
the kingdom right even if you're you're not in that office.
And so I think that brought so much clarity to
those that are listening. And you just can keep sharing
about women and leadership. You can pick up from where
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you was about to go, because this is this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Thank you, Amen, thank you woman of God.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yes, and so yeah, we get back to the self
proclaimed and all that. Let me tell you something, if
God did not give you the grace, I would say,
knock it off real quick, because we are accountable to Heaven.
We are accountable when we stand before God and we've
given ourselves a position. And God did not grace you
for that position or that office, as a woman, as
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a man, as anything, there will be uh. You know,
we are are going to reap what we sold. And
so I always find it very you know, you know
what's going on in the world today and on Facebook
and on social media where people are self naming themselves
into these positions.
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There is a price to pay for that. Amen.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
And the devil knows rank. Let me just tell you that,
whether you're a woman or a man, the devil knows rank.
As much as God has given us the rank in
the spirit. Amen, He's given us rank in the spirit,
and the enemy knows our rank. And so when we
are falling under these predetermined, self determined things, the enemy
knows that you have not been appointed for the position,
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and so he will wreak havoc in your life.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So let me just send that off.
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As a warning to men and women that are self
appointing themselves in positions that they have not been graced
for amen. And so it's very important. But getting back
to the matter of women in ministry, you know, just
that scripture alone Galatians three twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
You know, we have to remember that we when the
Bible talks about the sons of God, the sons of
God have no gender.
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The sons of God when it is done in lower case.
The son of God is always capital, but the sons
of God is lower case. And he doesn't really say
the sons and daughters of God in the Word of God.
He says the sons of God. All the earth will
grow to wait. They're waiting for the sons of God
to manifest thement. What that means is the sons of God.
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There is no gender, male or female. It's lower case.
So there is no gender in the interpretations of the
Word of God. And so we have to be really careful.
And I want to also give you some misunderstood scriptures. Okay,
there's myths understood scriptures, and there is a verse that
has been used as Okay, I'm gonna say it, but it.
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It's kind of a club against women in ministry, okay,
and women of God.
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I was just not that long ago.
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I was at Uh you know, we did a thing
here at the Jesus Festival. I don't know if you
saw it, but I was asked to share my testimony
up on stage.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
It was in a park here in the city of Hamilton.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
At the end, after I gave it my all and
I shared my testimony, I came off of the stage.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
And immediately four young.
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Guides were standing there ready to eat me alive and
talk about how dare you say you are an apostle
and going on. As soon as I left the platform
at just releasing my testimony, many people getting healed, delivered
and set free. But this is the enemy that uses
these misinterpretations and these type of teachings that people fall
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prey to, and then they the enemy, will use it
to attack right in the midst of the glory.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Amen, right in the midst of the glory. So I
dealt with that right then and there.
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And then my husband had the step in because there
was people waiting to get he'll delivered and set free.
And I'm telling you, I don't have time for crack
pops like that anymore. I just don't God, bless.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You, love you, but gotta go. There is work to do.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
I just don't have time for this anymore, you know,
because God has appointed us. So let me just give you.
Let me talk about this one misunderstood scripture.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Okay.
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And again it's a club. It's a club that's against
women in ministry. And for years it's this one one
Timothy three to two.
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And you know, if I.
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May say it, it's sexist. I'm sorry, Okay, I said it.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I said it. Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
So and so many people are afraid of the scripture
because they don't understand it and they want to use
it against us as women and leaders in ministry or otherwise.
They meant, it doesn't even not that it's the ministry.
It's even in secular that women can't be the boss.
You know, we don't have authority.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Okay, let's go back to this scripture because I've got
a lot to say about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Now listen, it says a bit shop.
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Then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant,
sober of good behavior, given to a hospitality and to teach.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Now again this is one Timothy three to two.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
And what is always stressed here is that the husband
it is the husband of one wife.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Amen, we got to read that again. So this means
that a woman.
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Can't preach only men because a woman can't be a
husband to one wife. You see how that is myth interpreted?
Should I say this again? Like it is myth interpreted?
The scripture is not dealing with gender, but it's dealing
rather with faithfulness and monogamy. That's what that scripture is
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dealing with, my friends. So we need an eye opener again.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
That is one Timothy three to two. Paul wrote this
instruction to correct the error of having more than one's spouse.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
It was not to disqualify women. Okay, it was not
to disqualify women. It is true that anyone who desires
to be a church official wants to be something worthwhile.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
That's why officials must have a good reputation. The Bible
says it.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
They must be a good reputation, okay, and faithful in marriage.
They must be self controlled, sensible, and now we're talking
about one Timothy three one to three. They must be
self controlled, sensible, well behaved, friendly to strangers, and able
to teach they must not be heavy drinkers or troublemakers. Instead,
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they must be kind and gentle and not love money. Okay,
now I'm gonna keep going. The second passage I want
to look at also that is being used as a
club against women is one Corinthians fourteen thirty four and
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thirty five. It says, let your women keep silent in
the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but
they are to be submissive, as the law also say.
And if they want to learn something, let them ask
their own husbands at home, for it is shameful for
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women to speak in church. So this is the scripture
that gets thrown and blasted at us all the time. Amen,
all the time. But let me just break it down
because in order to get the context of the passage,
there are two things that are required here. And I
want to give this to you because we broke it down.
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I've broken it down for you. First and understanding that
there is one Greek word for man and one Greek
word for women, and none for a husband and wife. Okay,
we need to understand this. Second, the circumstances that we
are occurring in the church in current that Paul was
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writing to correct. Okay, there was a circumstance he was
writing to. He was writing about. It was a particular circumstance.
So the decision to make this general and applying to
women in general as opposed to wives was the decision
of the translators of that scripture. Okay, I'm gonna break
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it down, and then we're gonna we're gonna go on.
So why would the word for the female be general
to all women and the word for male be specific
applying to a husband?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Mm hmm. Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
We must also remember that the custom of the day
back then was that women sat on one side. Do
we remember that in the Word of God, women sat
on one side of the church and the men sat
on the other side, Not like we have it today,
mind you, And I think in Africa when my husband
went there, they did they still continued to do that.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
They still continue to have the women on one side
and the men on the other side. What Paul was
writing about was to correct.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Okay, Paul was writing to correct that wives were asking
their husband's questions in the assembly that dealt with the
home when they did not belong there.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Okay, those questions were not supposed to happen in church.
That's what they was. That's what Paul was referring to wives.
And the scripture goes on, wives must not disrupt worship
talking when they should be listening, asking questions that could
be more appropriately being asked of their husbands at home.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
That's what the scripture says. Okay, God's Book of the Law.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Guides are manners and customs to your wives have no license.
It continues to say, to use the time of worship
for unwarranted speaking. And you can find that in One
Corinthians fourteen thirty four and thirty five. Okay, So we
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need to be so careful how we are interpreting the
word of God.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Paul was speaking directly to the church of corinth because
the women were constantly bugging the men about matters of
the home, and that was not the appropriate at place
for them to be speaking of matters of the home.
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So he said, the women need to be silent about
those things.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Hello, Hello, have we brought some revelation? Amen, we brought
some revelation. So this is what I'm trying to tell you.
Like in the Word of God, I can I can
give you all kinds of scriptures that will will will
support the fact that women were positioned to be leaders
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in the church. One again, Deborah, Okay in Barrack that
was the prophetess was right there. We've got apostles that
were named in the Word of God. There's apostle Junia,
apostle Anna, there's the There, there's Priscilla, Priscilla and Aquilla.
And listen, when you study about Priscilla, who was the wife,
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who was the woman and Aquilla, the Bible also gives
you an interpretation that they worked with the apostle Paul,
and they had their own ministry, and Priscilla always came
before Aquila, which tells you that she was more of
the leader in that ministry. Hmm. You gotta get to
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the Word. We gotta study the Word of God to
understand these things.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Amen.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
We had evangelists look at that the merit and the
woman at the well, the woman at the wealthy. A
lot of people don't understand the story. They think she
was a prostitute. Nowhere in the Word of God does
that say the woman at the well was a prostitute.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Nowhere. If you find that for me, give it.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
To me, because it doesn't say that she was just
a woman that was divorced five times and was now
the Lord spoke to her.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
He was He had the hat of the Prophet on.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Jesus had the prophetic hat on right now, the heart
of the Prophet, and he.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Spoke to her. Yes, you've been divorced five times, and
now the man that you are with right now.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
You're just living with him. That's how he proved to
her he was the Christ, and he did not judge her.
She was the first evangelist in the New Testament. You see,
she testified, She ran back, and she testified to three
thousand people who got saved in her own community. She
was the first evangelist, and she was not the nameless
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woman of God. If you study about the woman at
the well, her name was Fontini. And if you continue
to study about Fontini, she led nate countries and nations
to Christ. Okay, she was also known as an apostle.
So I don't know how much more we can give you,
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but I am telling you there are many women in
the Word of God that described leadership in women, so
as the women of God, and I are trying to
spread this good news because this is good news of
the Gospel. Not only our salvation men and women of God,
but it's good news because we have been appointed with
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the Dna of Jesus. Man and woman, we all carry
the same spirit, the Spirit of God. You can't tell
me that a man's spirit inside of him, of the
Spirit of God, is a greater spirit of God that's
dwelling inside of me as a woman, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
We've got the.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Same spirit of God that is dwelling in each and
every one of us. The spirit of God that raised
laughterus from the dead is in me as it is
in any man. And the Word of God says that
we will do greater exploits once the spirit.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Has come upon us, the spirit of God.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
It didn't say, man, you will do greater exploits, not
the women. I can tell you we will do greater
exploits because I am a demonstration of God doing exploits
because of the Spirit of God that is in me.
Now I'm not saying I'm greater than you, greater than anyone.
I just walk in the fullness of what God has
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me doing. And you can do the same thing as
a woman of God. You're gonna take up your rightful
position and you're gonna walk with the same spirit that
raised Lazarus.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
From the dead. We got the DNA of Jesus. He
didn't dumb and dumbed down the blood when he injected
it in a woman.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
It's the same blood of Jesus. That's why the Bible
also says, we are not blaff. We are not white,
we are not yellow, we are not red. I'm not
just Italian, You're not just Aboriginal, You're not just Nigerian.
We have all the same blood of Jesus, the DNA.
So even color, people of God, we are all one
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according to the Word of God. Men, women, color, race.
That's what the Bible says. I'm gonna stop there.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
So wow, wow did she not drop the mic? And
then she dropped the mic. Oh my god, I'm speechless
because I thank God for you sharing every thing you share.
I am literally on fire over here, literally and this
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listen is everything that you said on tonight, breaking it
down in the scriptures to back it up with the
word and giving this clarity and probably breaking some chains
off of these women who are called to lead, who
are called to have a voice, but have Oh I
love when you said God did not dumb down the
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blood of Jesus, the Holy Spirit. So why do we
as women when we have the same spirit, Well, why
do we have to walk in rooms and dumb down
while we don't have.
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To do that?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
And so that is so I know that some women
are getting set free and realizing that they have a
voice and that they have have a call, and they're
called to build kingdom too, you know, I mean, it's
just I am speechless. I thank you for everything that
you have shared one tonight. Women of God apostle. I
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do not know if you still have more than you
need to say. Listen, they're still there, are going off
in these comments, they are listen, listen, you guys are
gonna have to connect with her. She's a fireball. This
isn't just like for tonight. This is who she is.
If you go to her ministry and look at her page,
this is who she is. This is who she is,
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a fireball and truly standing and helping bring in clarity
and understanding, not just having a point on an opinion.
You guys, this is not opinionated. This is backed up
with the word of God that you have a place.
They're coming from over, from all over South Africa. They
are all here, they're excited to be here. Woman of God, apostle.
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I don't know if you I do have if you,
if there's a woman who's listening, that's even that writing.
I know you gave the scripture, you gave everything, you've
broken out, But is there anything that you would want
to say to a woman who is wanting to lead? Uh?
But feel that there are in a place of that
dumb and down position, like they don't have a voice.
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You know, what would you say to them to encourage them,
you know that to come forth? Come forth?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Amen?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Well, here's what I would say, is come forth exactly that,
because because of who we were created to be, Liten,
we all have a story, we all have a testimony.
We've all come from hurt and broken places. We've all
come from maybe marriages as well, where you know.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
The man's got the thumb on.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
But we could even get into that one day as well. Okay,
you know the man, you know women must have meant
and all that. There is a lot of teaching that
is incorrect even in that. But that's going to be
for another day. But I want to tell you were
created for such a time as this to be.
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A woman of God.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
To rise up and do as God is convicting you
to do. Because there are many online that have been
how back and how back, so tight. But God has
been convicting you to come forth, because we are not
to be how back. We are the sons and we
are the daughters of God, and we will be raised
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up and trained and equipped to rise up and be
the all that God has planned and purpose for us
to be. You see God, if God already says he says,
I fountioned you in your mother's womb before you were
even in your mother's womb, So He already called you
even prior to your mom and dad even haven't a
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thought about you, you are already a thought in the
bosom of God. And so God, if you were already
fashioned before you were even in your mother's wound, God.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Had a calling on your life already. So there is
no person, there is no that. We're not here to
put men down. We are not.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
We are here to raise them up and lift them
up as well, but to help people and the women
too that believe in that false doctrine, to.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Break all of that, because that is a lie of
the enemy. The enemy wants to keep you subdue. You've
got fire in you, you've got miracles in you, you've
got feeling in you. I mean, we have been born
for such a time as if to release the exploits
of God. There are people that are waiting.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
For you to be saved, to be made whole, and
it's the Jesus in you that's doing it. I get
all that. I'm not saying, you know, let's let's give
God the glory for it all. Absolutely, but we have
been born as vessels, as ambassadors of Christ, to come
and position ourselves rightly and justly according to the Word
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of God and walk in our purpose.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
So I would just say, rise up. God has been
convicting you, the spirit of God has been convicting you,
to get up out of that part of the blanket
of Liza, because that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It's a deception and it is a lie. It is
not the word of God. It is not the truth
of the word of God. Because we see in the
scriptures there was women Deborah, Elena, Priscilla, Junia, they all
the Samaritan woman, the woman at the well. You know,
God didn't judge them, Jesus didn't judge her. As a
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matter of fact, let me just say this. You know,
as much as even a woman isn't supposed to be
preaching or any of that.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Jesus even said, you've been divorced. You were divorced five times.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
How about that false doctrine that even if you're divorced,
you can't preach.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Excuse me, I have been divorced. I've been divorced two
times in my life because of everything that the enemy
had me believed. And I'm still preaching and giving it
all I got, ministering to people, healing, deliverance and teaching
about the Kingdom of God. Even the woman.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
At the well, we know she was divorced for whatever reasons. Okay,
she was not a prostitute, but Jesus still used her.
God used her to deliver a nation as well. Three
thousand people like that were saved in her own community.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And she went on and she was five times. So
let me tell you something. Man does not qualify you.
God qualifies you.
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Man only affirms what God has already commissioned and ordained.
And so rise up, women of God, because you have
wasted enough time with this falseness and being submitted under
a hand of false deception. In the name of Jesus,
you will come out of that, and you will walk
in your purpose and get the flame of fire ignited
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back into you and walk in the purpose of God.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Wow, my, my, my mind.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
I was rocking and moving and sitting up, and I
was forrid to God. I don't know who's getting up tonight,
but I think some women are getting up tonight and
going forth. And you know, oh, it's so good how
you were saying, like you know, it's not even just
coming from the men. It can be just coming from
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the women, because you know, even growing up, when I
grew up in a.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Religious household where my father used to.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Tell me and I never understood, so it made me
so double mind. It used to say, you're chosen in
your call, but women can't preach. It was just like
I'm not understanding that. So what am I called and
chosen for? Then? Like I mean, what is but I
can't preach? And but now my father, like now he
has grown and now since this has been broken down
and knowing the scriptures and everything I see has gotten
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you know, the change the fell off him and he
accepts the fact that his daughter is a minister and
that's just who God has called me to be, you know,
and so you know I understand it. Sometimes it can
start at home and my mom just used to repeat
what he said, you know, because that's just learned, right,
And so sometimes we gotta go, we gotta unlearn the
things we have learned, and uh be ready to walk
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in on purpose in our call. And so I know
that you have helped some women on tonight. They're coming forth.
Uh woman, as she was saying, it's time to come forth,
you have wasted enough time. That's right there when you
think about it, knowing that you have a purpose in
a call and you're yes, it's connected to someone destiny,
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and you're wasting time. It's time to come forth. And
so I thank you for sharing on tonight. Really listen,
you blessed me. I knew you was coming with the fire.
I knew you were coming with the fire. Listen before
I know that they the individuals here, want to follow you.
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I know you didn't want to hear more of your teachings.
I know they want to, you know, get connected, and
so can you share with them apostle you know how
they can connect with you on social media on your
platforms to continue to have this empowerment. You know, this
is who she is. This is fine.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
What I'll do is I'll just write it really real
quick down here. That way you have it, nobody have to.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, that's and then I'm just going to give this you.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
And for those who's listening on the radio, don't worry.
We're gonna say it because I know you're and you're like,
I can't see it. Radio radio, radio, Apple where, yeah, everywhere,
Google Music, Amazon everywhere.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Hall Alujah Jesus there. So there's some things there. It's
info at fresh Fireministries dot ca a is my email
if you want to connect. Our website is fresh Fireministries
dot ca a. My Facebook page is Sandra Benalia and
it's got the blue check okay because so many false
(40:34):
false pages, and we also have uh okay. Another Facebook
page is fresh Fire Apostolic Ministries as well. That's another
that's our our ministry facebook page.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
But yes, I just want to say, ladies, listen.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
If there's men on here too, that's fabulous.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
There are some amazing.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Men who you support women and you know, don't fall
prey to any of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
And I love them.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
I love them to pieces and I love men, but
you know when they come.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
At us about this stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
And again, let me just say, I've had women too,
because we haven't understood you know, the word of God.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
And all these amazing women in the Word of God.
We could go on and.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
On about these amazing women who did ministry. I want
to encourage you. You know you may get the backlash.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
You will.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
You will get backlash. I still get backlash. I've been
in ministry since twenty twelve, and I still get backlash
even just like I said just a month ago out
out in the park, you know when that big festival
was going on. But I want to tell you to
keep going. We do not let anyone or any I'm
not saying any man as a gender, man or woman
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put us to shame. Okay, the devil wants to put
us to shame. And God already, Jesus Christ already took
our shame two thousand years ago.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
And so listen.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
I never believed that was qualified to do anything. I
came from hurt, I came from broken, I came from loss,
I came from abuse. I came from addiction, oppression, depression, suicide.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
I've lived all of that.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Like I said, divorce twice, failure in marriage, and every
single thing. And I've had it all come back to
me by people that did not believe in my calling.
But for every person that did not believe in my calling,
God does. And there are many others that believe in
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your calling. So you just got to get and surround
yourself with those that believe who you are and what
God has called you, that they can see past all
of that stuff and right into your heart and your.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Spirit, man, because it's all of the motive of our hearts.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
And then, like I said, I didn't qualify for anything,
and I still don't. But God will use us anyway,
even in our brokenness, in our hurt, and in our pain.
God will use us any way to bring healing and
deliverance to the world.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
And so you have been called and I just.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Pat them back up and to bring them back on
higher ground, you know, and to stand around one another
and to support one another in these battles, because the
devil will use anything and anyone to try to stop
you from walking in the fullness of your destiny. Amen.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
And I have given each and every one of us
giftings women of God.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
Whether whatever those giftings are, and we do not listen
when we stand before God. When that day comes and
we're standing before God, God's gonna ask us what did
you do.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
With the gifts that I gave you?
Speaker 3 (43:58):
And you cannot stand there and say, well, I understood
or mine someone told me that I'm a woman. I
can't preach. That's not going to be an excuse to
the king, because the Bible has every answer that we
are looking for.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Amen.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Amen, don't be caught off guard, like like the the
ten virgins and the two that that only two had
the oil. Amen, So don't be caught off guard or
the man that that you know buried his money and
and and said what what did you do with the gifts?
Speaker 2 (44:34):
There's no excuse for the Lord. You have been called,
you have been chosen, you.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Have been purposed for such a time as this, And
we are walking women of God. We are walking in
such an incredible intense time right now. And if there's
an incredible move of God that is happening over the
earth right now, we're either going to get on board
or we're not that that that training coming around again.
We're in the final leg of this race. And if
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you haven't noticed, you know, the glory of God has elevated.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
It's intense, but so has the enemy.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
And the intention of the enemy is to knock you
out of your assignments. And you know, just the other day,
I don't know if you all saw, I was in
a horrific accident. But here I am, okay today Thursday.
This happened to me Monday. That devil is a liar
and we're going to put him to shame. So he
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tried to stop the call of God and tried to
kill us a man.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
But what God has planned.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
And purpose, no devil in hell can take you out.
And so I just encourage you and I compel you
to rise up as women of God. We need more
apostolic leaders. You don't have to be you know the Fivefold.
You can just be wherever sphere you're in, whatever mountain
(45:57):
top you're on, whether it's education, whether it's home and family,
whether it's it's government. Wherever you are, you are called
by God.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Man or woman. Remember Galatians three twenty eight. There's no
such thing as man or there's no gender to the Lord. Amen.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
And so I just I just encourage you right up
and take your sword, take your rightful position and get up,
get up and go in Jesus' name.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Oh what a blessing you were on tonight. Listen, Rise up,
listen so many key she said, so many things the thing,
rise up. And God will use you anyway and anyhow.
And so that is no excuses. God will use you anyhow.
And so that right there is a deal breaker.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Up.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
You have truly blessed me. Everyone listening you have. What
a great teaching, what a great impart that you have
brought on tonight. I am thankful for you, Apostle. I am.
I am truly thankful for you as a woman in leadership,
truly inspirn listen. I honor you to the individuals here
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on tonight. Listen. They are still saying they're going to
catch the replay. They're gonna listen. You can listen to
it as many times as you want if you If
you don't listen to it on Facebook, listen. Tell if
you have a member in the family that isn't a Facebook,
uh technology person, tell them where Google Google it, Google it.
It's going to be there on the radio. Okay, listen
(47:40):
to it with the link. This is truly an impartation
that someone else needs to send this to anyone that
you know that's having an issue with coming forth, with
rising up, just leading right, even if they're not grabbing
the mic like she was, just saying, whatever mountaintop God
has you on, lead and lead well, Come forth and
lead and lead well. And so it's just about breaking
(48:03):
those chains and getting off that mac, coming forth and
doing what God has purposed you to do because people
are waiting for you. And again, Apostle, I thank you
for coming on. She has shared. It's in the comments
how to connect with her. It is also if you
haven't heard, you catch the replay of rewind it back.
(48:23):
She did state her email, Facebook pages, everywhere that you
can connect with her. I don't know if she's open
for bookings for whatever, listen, but reach out to her
if you need her. I'm super excited, Apostle, thank you
for you're just taking the time to impart on tonight
to the women who needed this impartation to I'm trying
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to tell you I literally felt the fire through the computer,
so I know that if whoever wants to receive this
impartation received, there is no excuses because the power of
God is definitely was definitely here and it's still here
on tonight, on this episode, Apostle, I always do this
and say, you know, if there is there anything else
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that you would like to share with anyone or whatever
God is leading on your heart to share before we
do in this episode on tonight.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
I just want to share that as a woman, you
can do it. I just you know, I still work
full time. I work for the government. I work full time,
full time ministry. Just because you work full time doesn't
mean ministry is not full time. It's still full time.
And then you know we I travel all over the place.
I want you to know you can do it too.
(49:39):
If God did this for me and for the woman
of God here, he will do it for each and
every one of you. All you got to give him
is your yes. Open yourself up, just say yes, Lord,
you know what. I'm ready to rise up as a
woman for you, as a woman of God for you,
and watch him have you sore and roar. When you
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give guard your yes, be careful. Don't give him your
yes if you're not serious yes.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yes, and you're know me no.
Speaker 3 (50:08):
But when you give him your yes, get ready, but
your bacco up. God's ready to take you for a
serious joy ride with him and yes, I just want.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
To read I love it. I love it. Thank you
Apostle for what you shared on tonight. Listen y'all. I
don't know, Apostle might be back for a part two
later or something. I don't know. Listen, we need She
really dropped the mic on tonight. I knew she was
coming heavy. I'm I'm so excited again. And for those
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who are listening, please catch the replay. If you're listening over,
please comment replay inside of the comments. Take the time
to share the video. If you don't want to share
it on your profile, I get it. Share it a messenger,
Share it to someone's text messages, share it the snapchat, Facebook,
and you know has gotten so sad. You can actually
take these videos and share it wherever you want. Share it,
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and if you're listening on the radio, take the time
of course pull over, share the link to some family
members who you believe that need this impartation as we
want to. As she said, spread this good news right,
spread this good news to the woman. And I thank
you again Apostle for your teaching the breakdown for the
Word of God. As I always say, listen until next time.
(51:29):
I believe the first step and having a purpose sale
is to realize that what you're facing isn't greater than
God's purpose. We may have Apostle back. I thank you
again for everyone who tune in until next time. Good night,
and thank you all for tuning in and sharing this
moment with me An apostle good night, good night,
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